Apple's October SURPRISE Causes CHAOS | Genius Bar

[@InfiniteRegen]

0:00 - Special guest Lucas 1:40 - Apple “Event” week 11:30 - Luke’s mini history lesson 16:00 - Apple “event” speculations 19:16 - Trimming the bush 28:32 - Sponsor - DeleteMe 30:27 - “Event” speculation cont. 33:52 - Apple Vision Pro 48:38 - Sponsor - Stamps 50:10 - Luke show n tell 51:20 - Sam’s theory 53:30 - IPad mini time 1:12:45 - Sponsor - UncommonGoods 1:14:22 - IPad mini debacle continued 1:42:40 - Wrapping up 1:44:30 - Luke has a theory 1:48:00 - Jon’s outro music 1:48:50 - Luke’s talent 1:50:50 - Speedy goodbyes

[@buckmack]

Remember when they used to have the guests sit awkwardly through the sponsor ads?

[@J0S3PH_56]

To commenters here for Apple News and just the facts…go somewhere else. Genius Bar is about the tomfoolery and fun personality dynamics mixed into the news.

[@chrisdmalone]

No disrespect to Luke and Sam, but Jon you are my favorite personality.

[@karhadd]

It’s a good balance. Job is usually more serious but Sam lightens up the mood.

[@butterz5876]

It's amazing hearing the difference between Luke's intelligent and knowledgeable perspective and Sam's ramblings.

[@maxherman11]

2 HOUR GENIUS BAR WE WON! LETS GOOOO

[@paulpaulpaul9000]

The 3 Stooges reunited

[@lorenadinev5332]

😂😂

[@Duskydog419]

Its a Apple FESTIVAL 😂

[@connorlearmonth665]

An*

[@iSam3000]

Yes love this!

[@MrTsolar]

Regarding Vision Pro production, the same thing happened with the 1st gen HomePod. I bought two after the discontinuation announcement in 2021, and the ones I got were new old-stock originally manufactured in 2018 despite being some of the last available units. The labels on the boxes were faded, and they came with tvOS 11 installed. In 2026, if anyone buys a 1st gen Vision Pro, it's going to be the same story with units selling that were made in September of 2024.

[@susanleach9106]

I still have the IPod Nano and the shuffle. I really miss Steve Jobs he made everything exciting. Jon bring back the beard.

[@dinis984]

You guys have no idea how happy one got when one heard the classic intro coming back in the audio version. Had to come here and comment on it

[@wilty5]

Jon is ridiculous in his defense for this version of the iPad mini, there is no defense after 3 years, Apple had plenty of time to do better but they just get lazier and lazier and doing the least possible, it’s unacceptable, I’m sick of hearing John praise Apple for doing less and not bringing this product up to the speed And spec it should’ve at this price point, Apple doesn’t deserve a pass, people need to take a pass on minuscule spec bumps and wait until Apple delivers products worthy of the cost in spec, expected quality, and appropriate upgrade expectations. There is no way that Apple didn’t know that jelly scrolling was still there yet they released it anyway totally disregarding the quality expected at this price point from a $trillion company, skip this version of the iPad mini

[@sanderhoogeland9161]

He didn’t actually end up really defending the upgrade though.

[@petercanada874]

Why get one day of world press attention when you can get 3 or 4 days. It’s exactly what they said a week long Apple Event.

[@waddellvision]

Jon with a shaved face is legitimately scary

[@dualnon6643]

No offence but Sam thinks it’s an event. Luke and Jon don’t. End of discussion. Move on

[@Zaddi_eth]

apple convolutes mini aficionados with the budget consumer, so they'll ignore their own main userbase, knowing damn well a max spec mini would clear shelves

[@BMar1andonly]

I’d like to buy a mini one day but I just can’t justify the price. In what world does a “mini” anything cost more than the normal version. Imagine the iPhone 12 mini being prices at the same price of an iPhone 12

[@Strubi3]

A iPhone mini cost more than a iPhone SE. The normal iPad Version is not the normal version, it’s just a SE version. The Normal version would be the Air.

[@BMar1andonly]

@@Strubi3 don’t rationalize it. I also think if I buy a small T-shirt I should pay less than if I buy a large shirt. Less materials damn it.

[@pascalkhazzoum]

Happy to see Luke in the podcast and I think it should be more frequent too

[@Zellzoi]

NO JON BEARD????

[@CGGS_0]

No, there’s definitely a bearded Jon. He just shaved almost all of it.

[@gregorygeorge8695]

He needed to unlock his inner Craig recently.

[@asherdipps]

He shaved it to become Craig 😂

[@BlairSlavin]

By "Beard" are we talking a woman companion that hides the fact that you are gay?

[@HarrisonBorbarrison]

iPad Mini is too expensive. I would get one if the price was 150 Australian Pesos.

[@HarrisonBorbarrison]

Wait it is $800?! No way!

[@jmunayer]

The scaling was a decision because when the iOS update came out in 2021 it changed the iPad Mini 5 to the same scaling. I remember updating mine and think what the heck?? But it’s not that big of a deal to me. I got used to it because it doesn’t impact functionality.

[@dualnon6643]

They probably didn’t announce iPad mini at the event cos it has an 17pro chip

[@GarySaini8]

Thank you, Prosser!!! Hearing Sam say “quarter” is so odd 😂

[@tomzsx]

Glad that OG intro is back 🔥🔥

[@c.daubz.5386]

13:39 Tim Cooks Apple is now showing his penny pinching lack of product knowledge, this has happened over the years since Steve Jobs passing but with his future roadmap and size of Apple it took this long for people to notice

[@c.daubz.5386]

*9” iPad min pro with 3-4mm slim bezel* is the ipad mini most people wanted

[@mrjeffwithaG]

I feel personally attacked by the Bold Text on the Apple Watch crack

[@miketko]

55:15. carrying it to term is f'N hilarious dude HAHAHHA.

[@BrianRouse]

My Mini upgrade from nothing to the Mini 7 was massive

[@jmunayer]

Display scale was something made for iPad Pro. I have always had it on my Pro and never on my Mini

[@adamcarlson4922]

I agree so much that iPads are significantly better without cases. I want so bad for just a Smart Cover to come back, the folio is unnecessary and ruins the thinness and experience. I’m still on my iPad Pro 10.5 mostly because I want the screen cover and kickstand ability, but refuse to use a folio. The back absolutely does not need protection.

[@tyhines3971]

I really couldn’t justify spending the $1,000 on the iPad Pro. Maybe another time but trying to figure out which to buy was a nightmare. I went with the iPad Air M2 😅

[@MarceloGarcia9]

iOS has to index even if you don’t restore a backup or transfer data so it can sync up your iCloud account. It can get a bit hot

[@RileyXmusic]

It's funny to me that jon literally sounds like a nerdy joe Rogan the voice is practically the same

[@keithsupian6603]

You shouldn’t have had Luke on .. to Sams detriment but Thank You, Thank You! New Co-Host 🤔👏🏼

[@eUploads]

Sam you should do a drop test on the new iPad mini

[@robodd4694]

Better yet a horizontal drop test.

[@lukemainwaring4844]

Finally a long episode

[@dan9700]

There’s no event because it’s just a chip upgrade

[@jmunayer]

Idk why we are holding the iPad Mini to standards higher than the iPad Air.

[@GarySaini8]

Beardless Jon looks like Reacher a little.

[@mattsanders2207]

What are you waiting for to release that Vision Pro disappointment video, Sam?

[@Thomas-kp8mo]

It’s not an event because your not gonna a be able to watch it on KZbin. You’ll get videos and press releases, that’s different.

[@elmanacosta]

If we were positive in all our statements we might live in a perfect world. Keep working hard guys. 🎉❤

[@josephgfam]

People don’t buy engineering marvels, they don’t buy specs and they don’t buy features. People buy a product for its benefits. Vision Pro has no clear benefits and a bunch of burdens. That’s why it doesn’t sell

[@awthirdrock]

call it an Apple Proclamation 😂

[@abrarfarooqui2260]

Holy shit he actually shaves his beard I thought it was some beard wig😭😭

[@moransorgec6825]

E3 was also an Event with videos and Trailers spreaded out within a week, Sam is right with this one

[@videoslve]

I think they should update iPad product line to chassis similar like to Pros. It would sense, but Apple doesn’t seem to have that anymore. They could have development, production saving.

[@levi.s722]

I agree with Jon. Oled and Small Bezels would make the iPad mini the absolute best tablet ever. But a iPad Mini Pro is such a bad idea.

[@sonictonic_]

Love having Luke on with you guys! Ugh the Mini..... it's so sad because it has the potential to be so successful if they actually treated (and updated) it right. But instead they keep doing this half-baked crap, and then watch in a couple years they will say it doesn't sell well (duh, because you guys suck at updating it with good and proper features), and then they're gonna kill it, blaming sales. So annoying, lol.

[@BlairSlavin]

Yes... I miss the interaction with guests they use to have. They should schedule a guest at least once a month. Especially since they have both calmed down and don't have screaming matches most of the time.

[@willharrah9381]

iPad mini was an incredible update

[@lockelostie4309]

Omgawd! I love Genius Bar! Mostly I’m just here for Jon! Beard or No Beard. His voice is awesome & he cracks me tf up! Sam & Jon with their different styles make this work. I did not know who Luke was.

[@davidmontesjr9551]

Jon looks like Seth Rogen 0:33 😂😂😂

[@Yon150]

Thoughts on why it was not a Mac event; no Tim appearances required for these press video drops. That is a good way to get people used to not seeing Tim at every event as he prepares to retire and homeboy Ternus takes the ceo throne. Rest in spaghetti Timmy 🫡

[@c.daubz.5386]

1:10:27 because it’s a Tim Cook Apple overpriced left over parts bin spec upgrade, yet it still sells because no real competition

[@robodd4694]

Tim Cook is a bean counter and like all businesses that are run by bean counters you end up with s*itification. Crap products with increased pricing using the Great brand name Jobs built to maintain sales. He is ruining Jobs dream.

[@RichTallent]

Who’s the guest Luke? No link to a channel does he have one? He seemed a cool addition this week.

[@wilty5]

Does Apple even listen to the criticism of their products, do they even care, and do they take these criticisms in mind and use them to improve their products? Probably not but they should

[@wilty5]

Luke is absolutely right about the iPad mini

[@Chrisrosas]

I love the size of the iPad mini it’s the perfect size for my kid. But with the money I would pay for a cellular version I can buy my kid 2 regular iPads. So all in all I’m glad they still have the iPad mini but I can’t wait for 3 years to go by so I can buy it for my kid for around 299 which should be the right price.

[@gregorygeorge8695]

I’m glad Jon has realised his first opinion on AVP was more realistic. Not to say his review was wrong, actually. AVP is still magic, but it’s magic at the risk of hating using it, and for the price of a couple months of rent that’s an insane risk to take.

[@gregorygeorge8695]

With AirPods, even if you thought it was stupid the hook was easy to see: wireless + Apple software = unrivalled convenience for something we all do. Vision Pro never had that hook.

[@TechSpaceCowboy]

By spreading it out over three days, they can consume more of the news cycle.

[@kimchewchew2612]

the fact that Apple makes their every product (hardware/software) feel so off in recent years, is because they just wants to upset you with all the flaws and miss-designs, They make you aren't content with what you have and craving for better and expensive SKUs even if you don't need them actually (they do this because the government wouldn't be allowing them to do planned obsolescence). That's why people constantly upgrade their gadgets, not because the product is old or broken, but to get rid of the little off-place Apple intentionally designed that bugs people and creeps people out. Apple is not becoming the world's most profitable company by selling the best product, it became so large because it urged people to pay more money for what they wouldn't need if they didn't designed their product so off in the first place. Apple is so greedy and money-grabbing that they gradually destroyed the legacy that made Apple Apple, that legacy of pursuing dedicated yet powerful products, which is why most people love Apple in the first place.

[@jeffbarner1747]

42:31 I thought AirPods were silly at the time because I had already owned the Jabra Elite Sport which were already truly wireless for a while. Also knowing that the sound quality was going to be the same as their wired I thought who in their right mind is going to buy those?! I also didn’t understand why the stems had to be so long

[@TheLucyannaVIP]

I agree with iPad mini 7 not letting you upscale is so annoying everything looks too small

[@TheGippy30]

I think Apple cancelled the event because of the 200 stolen MacBooks in Russia ruined the proposed event

[@Spartan515b]

So I got to the point where they were talking about Display Zoom as I was also looking to update that on my iPad mini after Luke found out the name, I searched display zoom, and it still comes up as an option under Display and Brightness, but when you click it, it does absolutely fucking nothing, what is this shit? It should be there as it would make things more legible but the fact that the search thinks it's there and it isn't is blowing my fucking mind on how unpolished everything is now!

[@pumpuppthevolume]

hmm Jon is back to being 18 years old ...neat

[@c.daubz.5386]

1:17:52 sad iPad mini icons are smaller than iPhone pro max, Lack of software optimization for this size & $650 (4g/5g)🤦‍♂️

[@asystole_]

Can't believe they got Jonah from Superstore on the show

[@scottysize]

iPhone mini was the BEST iPhone EVER!!!!!!

[@kaarteeek]

mr. craig prossner looks so fucking clean dude, i really hope you try and keep your beard trimmed for a few weeks and see if you like it that way.

[@marcsequence]

Sam, put parentheses T “Apple what EVEN(T) is this..?” Or along those lines…

[@BlakeLeasure]

BABY FACE JON LETS GOOO

[@Efraindenver]

😂 Cut the shit .. Jon keep your beard 💭🎃😂😂😂

[@__umbra]

What's up with thr trolls in the comments section. We love you!

[@TheFeedRocket]

A week of Press Releases, that's kinda weak. I hope they are all way too busy working on Apple Intelligence and Siri.

[@rosestines66]

They show it on the Apple Store in spec. Details

[@hensoning5657]

Jon you look GREAT!

[@janeS9773]

My Mini runs cool not hot. Love it. Thanks for the video . I use bold text and not ready for the home yet. :)

[@rosestines66]

Great podcast guys thanks ❤😊

[@TechSpaceCowboy]

I hope just for fun they call it Mac nano

[@Motawa88]

STOP TALKING OVER EACH OTHER

[@tomzsx]

Jeez Jon looks 10 yrs younger😂

[@StarDarkAshes]

I don’t think Apple understands the market anymore. The Vision Pro and then the iPad mini. There’s a market for an iPad Mini Pro. I would have immediately bought a mini if it was OLED and had all the features of a Pro but mini. That would be sick fire. 🔥 Even if it was $1000 people would buy that in droves. They could have two versions. Poor person iPad mini, and the rich person iPad mini just like they have for phones and the regular iPads.

[@pascalguerlain]

I kept fast forwarding looking for the content. They take forever to make any points. It’s nauseating.

[@kodewilliams2892]

Just customize your photos app and call it a day lol

[@angrytechaddict7803]

Jon Prosser mini? Where is the beard bro 😳

[@Dan_Yerlll]

Honestly, the guy in the middle is terrible for the Podcast. He talks way too long. He doesn’t laugh with you guys or get the humor and he’s too full of himself.

[@marcsequence]

He’s just Italian forgehdabouwdih

[@dan9700]

he is a radical leftie as well

[@pascalkhazzoum]

That’s not fair

[@raycree722]

It is a happening. Do not need to call it a event!

[@susanleach9106]

Display &brightness scroll down text size & bold text.

[@BiSlimeRancher5]

first 12 minutes and i comment haha yes and i was literally clapping when i saw Luke Miani on the cover

[@Barron_NY]

Who that guy with Jon’s voice? That Craig?

[@marcinkowalczyk647]

top 100! mac mini lets gooo

[@alaaelarchi2599]

Update to 18.1

[@LangleyNA]

_“Luke Xeeted.”_ The new intimate activity, Sam says. How embarrassing. I am kidding. I’m referring to the international concern of the _“X”_ product brand name being perceived in a sexual context in some cultures.

[@HomerSimpsonian]

So now you guys gotta do a week of shorter daily podcasts.

[@ThaexakaMavro]

Watching at 1.75 speed

[@rosestines66]

That was a great video Jon ❤😊

[@CaramelCraft]

It’s not an event Sam!!1 /j