Apple's USB-C Trickery: iPhone 15 Pro's Hidden Cable Controversy?

[@godofrainbows]

That dog is so sweet. The way he just sits there patiently and looks at you so lovingly.❤

[@kellykoffman]

I literally came to make the exact same comment. I think I'm in love with that dog :)

[@godofrainbows]

Thanks for replying to me, now I get to see that sweet dog again. That is one of the sweetest little animals I’ve ever seen.

[@wjb111]

🐶

[@randyjose7466]

I just hope we keep this same energy for all smartphones from different companies capable of fast data transfers.

[@xpusostomos]

Well... if they are $1000 plus products, sure

[@bigbundle3223]

this is an apple focused channel, you’re only gonna get it for apple

[@crellis1]

@@xpusostomos Even Samsung does it. Most charging cables are only 2.0 speeds since charging bricks don't require 3.0 speeds and it's cheaper.

[@xpusostomos]

@@crellis1 I've noticed that Samsung cables seem like crap... even for charging.

[@crellis1]

@@xpusostomos What’s even more egregious/interesting about Samsung is they put a usb 3.0 speed port on the usb micro s5. Then from the s6 to the s21 it went back to 2.0 speeds with their usb C port. Then with the s22 they added 5Gbps USB 3 speeds. For how much people care about specs on Samsung phones I’m surprised that managed to go under the radar for so long.

[@jttnc]

Unfortunately, I think this is pretty standard for most companies. Even when the phone supports a high transfer speed, the cables include with it are often 2.0 speeds, even if the charge speed is faster.

[@BaxterretxaB]

It’s because even with the pro phone I would say at least 50% of users have no desire to even use those high trans speeds and they’re probably just average Joe’s who charge their phone like a normal person so the box cable is gonna be just good enough for everyone, except for those people that want the high-speed and ultra fast charging. The people that want it will gladly pay for the higher end cables, and that’s how Apple makes their money and why they’re one of the wealthiest companies in the world.

[@mr.j5112]

​@@BaxterretxaBI agree. They exploit the ignorance of the masses so that they can cut cost, while also profiting from those who want to get the more capable stuff. It's a really good strategy really.

[@thesaralkumar]

Exactly, this practice is the industry standard.

[@rherydrevins]

@@mr.j5112So, Apple really did join the dark side, then.

[@kelimaxxx]

Man these comments, did u guys ever seen any android with USB 3.0 port like Pixel or S Series come included with USB 3.0 cable? All of them come with USB 2.0 cable because it's thinner, more flexible and only for charging

[@ftlPhysicsGuy]

2:42 "Should Apple have provided us, with the pro versions, cables that were capable of using the hardware in that device?" Absolutely! You're paying $1000+ for a pro device, and Apple's decision to include a cable that does not supporting the full utility of the device is, IMHO, both cheep and unprofessional. Shame on Apple.

[@BeardsBaconTech]

Yes, if you’re getting the pro versions of the iPhones, they should have the faster cable

[@sammyjammy6647]

None of the phones android or Apple come with faster cable

[@Vojoor]

@@sammyjammy6647exactly, any charging cable included is USB-2, USB-3 cables are usually shorter, a decent TB 4 cable is 25-30$ for 0.7m

[@KalaniMakutu]

The cables that came with my Google Pixel 7 Pro or Samsung Galaxy Fold 5 are USB 2.0 Data, even though they are USB-C and PD rated for at least 45w. Hardly seems like a scandal, aside from companies not labeling their USB-C cables in an obvious way to state their capabilities. Can't wait until you find out how many USB-C cables don't support DisplayPort Video, or if they do only offer it at a lower resolution.

[@TheHawaiianc]

Hehe nah that’s not professional! 😂 but really though 😓😒 apple knows it’s wrong they know they just want you buy one lol

[@D1AM0NDD]

@@sammyjammy6647doesn’t mean Apple shouldn’t. Samsung and competitors should too if they want to get ahead of the competition

[@TheRealAMG]

Loving the constant content!! Just wanted to mention something though, At the end you mentioned that the thunderbolt cables that’s “$10 more” while the price is correct. That cable is a TB2 cable and WILL NOT work with USB-C and is an older connection standard seen on older macbooks/imacs. The high data rate cable would be a TB4 (or 3) which averages from $75-$150 depending on the length! :)

[@jeffreytomaszewski2483]

Your content is just excellent. I don’t even have any intention to buy a 15, but you’re so thorough and fun to listen to I have to watch

[@MattJH]

Most people will never use their USB-C cable to transfer data and the boxes do specify "charging" so I don't have a huge problem with it. The real blunder in my opinion is Apple not selling a USB 3.2 USB-C cable on their website, which leads less-informed customers to think they need that Thunderbolt cable when it offers no benefit at all for an iPhone 15.

[@ChickenPermissionOG]

but that cable supports the whole standard

[@synovium]

Of course it is called Apple deception

[@MrVh78]

BUT its more universam for moving files through their M1 macs so 2 birds one cable

[@Snaerffer]

Yes they should have said. They also should label their charging cords vs data transfer cords so we know not to buy the charger one if data transfer is important to us.

[@PvtAnonymous]

it literally says "charge cable" on the box. And it has been like this for YEARS now, the USB-C MacBooks also came with USB-C 2.0 cables.

[@Snaerffer]

@@PvtAnonymous yes but the USB 3 cable does not state that it’s really the one you need for data if you want to actually use the phone’s capabilities.

[@MikeHightower1]

It’s the ones with a lightning bolt on them for data

[@kalijasin]

Wifi 6 is double the speed of USB 3 and there are no cables so why Not just use Wifi 6? 🤷‍♀

[@Snaerffer]

@@kalijasin agree completely

[@pwneytube]

I mean its labeled and sold as a CHARGE cable. Theres a huge difference and maybe apple sacrificed a little bandwidth to provide faster charging. Not many users will ever use that port to transfer data.

[@katarixy]

My boy out here grinding out content for us. Appreciate it man

[@Redarkyz]

That's actually fine with me cause I'm on the fence from switching from my S23+ lol

[@NanceDrew]

Link not working…

[@mikem2k6]

Yes, the pro phones should include the „pro“ cable. Also they preach how important environment is to them and taking the steps needed to reduce the footprint of Apple products, but then they do not include the faster cable to use their new feature in their phones and make consumers buy an extra cable. So now the included cable gets stored somewhere in a drawer bcs will not be used

[@HL-OOI]

Apple cut so much corners..no charger, no usb3 cable, no leather case, no earbuds 😂

[@cedric27]

Is there a longer version of the mophie cable?

[@purplefuku]

It’s even worse than you said! You accidentally showed the older Thunderbolt cable Apple sells, which is a mere $39.00 USD. The 1m Thunderbolt 4/USB-C cable that Apple sells is *$69.00* USD. Ridiculous!!

[@greggtrogdon7874]

Can you use the new apple cord for carplay?

[@BrysonSenevira]

what was the name of the that tester you used and where did you get it from thanks....

[@theWynn3]

What was that thick orange cable?

[@yemanator]

if they are labeled as a charging cable, I don’t expect fast transfer speeds

[@martin_wood]

Exactly. Not sure why he’s bummed over data. It’s for power

[@doompod]

Then you have low standards.

[@SanderEvers]

I'm okay with that. But they should label the cables as being USB 2.0. I just checked, Apple does mention this on their website.

[@crellis1]

@@SanderEvers They do. It's part of the main description of the cables "It supports charging of up to 240 watts and transfers data at USB 2 rates."

[@MS-xu2mm]

What kind of stand are you using for your iPad.. I need one lol

[@hoffhousepetphotography]

I subscribed mainly becuase of the dog. :) You're explaination was cool too.

[@darleneshipe7120]

Great video. FYI... you amazon link is not going to the Mophie cable you describe. It's just going to a Amazon page that lists a lot of cables. Thought you may be unaware. Again, great video!

[@j_k_mark]

I really appreciate your content. Yes, it would be nice if they included USB 3 cables, but most people are only going to use them to charge their phone, so the extra expense would be lost on the vast majority of customers. Anyone that needs high speed data transfer via wires already knows and probably owns USB 3 cables.

[@RoscoeS]

This may be true but if your buying the Pro Model you should get the pro cable. As it is they already give the excuse that they do not include charge Bricks. As Well as no Longer including Headphones. Apple is cutting Back more and more on its end to save on cost but in turn its making E-waste by making people buy Addition cables they may not have if they need them to obtain the speeds the phone can offer.

[@kirikotone]

most people don't want usb 3 cables. they are thicker, more stiff, and generally shorter than charging cables.

[@seyedalirezaei1026]

​@@kirikotoneyes most of the people are stupid so let's give them usb 1.0 cable then

[@TheBullethead1988]

Not so much about whether it will be used by the common people but more about if you’re buying the best iPhone model in the line up, you should be expected to get the premium version of the cable. Apple just trying to get people to buy more products from them. Very sneaky.

[@paulsteenbergen4223]

The cable provided with the phone is marketed as a “USB-C charging cable” so I do not feel tricked by Apple about this

[@BatteryAddicted]

Would never have known if it wasn't for your video! Thank you!

[@LaMerleNoir216]

Unpopular opinion but if my theory is correct then its a smart business move on their part. My theory is that the number of people who actually use the iPhone to its full potential and really need those fast data transfer rates is probably a very small amount. While it might only cost them a few cents to dollars per cable more in the overall cost it ads up if they include the higher rate cable so if they think most users won't even need it and the small few that do typically will have third party accessories anyway then they opt to save the money. But I could be wrong. just my guess.

[@jon_escamilla_]

I believe it wasn't necessary for the cable to be included in the box as it's not the standard practice. However, it would have been a thoughtful addition. At the very least, they should offer a small grey or black cable with USB 3.0 to distinguish it from the white USB 2.0 and Thunderbolt.

[@porkysoda5899]

I really hope you can test different usb c accessories that aren’t MFI to see how well they work. Like a backbone controller among other things.

[@sly2792004]

Are the apple ones different then old ones or have they just decided to advertise their existing wattage?

[@alextechtai]

where is this labeled cable? can’t seem to find it

[@thejtray]

Your link to the Mophie Cable did not work as intended.

[@ARocketsPocket]

They should but isn’t that standard procedure? I might be wrong but I believe that most charging cables you get for free with your product suck and won’t support higher data transfer.

[@chennyye28]

yes, but to me, maybe specifically for apple, I would hope to get a bit more ---- they are seriously talk about e-waste on the event, they cancel the charging brick for iPhone ---- but if we are talking about our daily cable use, to me it is like, I need trust quality cable which can do almost everything: charging, plug into SSD, transfer files from camera, USB2 is fine for charging, but I will anyway buy and bring USB3 cable if I am travel or need to pack only one cable. Since we already have so many cables, I would expect apple to either ship no cable with the phone, or ship an USB3 cable, that's only because they are apple and they want to reduce e-waste. They are companies want to make money and differentiate iPhone 15 and pro lines, so I kind of understand, but in another way, I am not a big fan of this movement.

[@shivangsaxena6943]

There is some real cope as a consumer thinking its okay to spend over a grand on a new phone and get a last gen usb cable technology

[@mhill0425]

@@shivangsaxena6943I genuinely don’t know the last time I used a cable for data transfer. I have 1gigabit fiber with the option to upgrade to 2 gigabit fiber, I have a modern router for anything over my local network. All of this content surrounding usb-c speeds really is to drive clicks and views from the anti-Apple crowd. Why aren’t there better standards for USB-C?

[@Stiegelzeine]

@@chennyye28 if you need a quality cable don’t buy from Apple because they put design over durability, I think if Apple wouldn’t include their stupid cables at all that would be the best

[@jejunamja]

Good catch

[@alemacgirl]

Put a link on the cable tester, better if it sells in Canada

[@periel]

I subscribed just because I like your personality and your dog ❤

[@danielworrell3438]

I like the IPad stand what’s it called ?

[@rhite139]

Such good information! Thank you!!!

[@MarksTech]

Most of all android phones also come with usb 2 cable in the box. The reason is because usb 3 cables are thicker and less flexible and most people don’t transfer files from the charge port on their phones

[@ahmadghufran8117]

The faster speed cables are great but they are really thick and stiff in my experience. I wouldn’t want to use it for charging. I just wish it was a longer braided cable that was included in the box.

[@mentalman1369]

To be fair, Apple does label it a “Charge cable” everywhere, which to any “pro” user who would want USB 3 Data transfer speeds, should instantly alert them to the fact that they are not USB 3 speeds. “Pro” users who actually need USB 3 speeds would also already own USB 3 cables. So if anything, including a Charge cable in the box is fairly reasonable. I’d also wager that for people who buy the Pro models just cos it’s the best/most expensive are almost universally not going to notice or know the difference.

[@lennynotkravitz]

Missed showing Apples new USB-C Pro cable

[@RTC_Moderator]

I can not find that morphine cable anywhere on Amazon even with the link.

[@corybourrier9722]

Damn you have the best content buddy. Love the channel 😎

[@ArifMahmud]

awesome my friend !! thanks

[@gregg5958]

Yes the faster cable should be included else it is just adding more cables to more landfills. Supposedly something Apple is against. Your dog is just adorable. He seemed to be taking in every single technical detail…lol.

[@amaionnaise]

amazing video!!! you’re so talented!!

[@Genericusername1004]

So what speeds was the transfer using the thunderbolt cable?

[@OLDUSAFMedic]

USB-C cables cost between $5 and $45. The difference is tha data transfer rate and the best ones are very thick. I would not expect Apple to provide one of these cables because it's just supposed to be a charging cable. If you need data transfer speeds that are high, you should have to buy your own. Most people don't even do data transfer very often because verything is wireless these days.

[@Paa375]

I agree I never do data transfers

[@kyleruth6921]

I also agree here

[@AvocadoAtrocity]

This is why I hate USB-C. It's literally 30 different cables that all look IDENTICAL. usb c is such a scam. 😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@pinkpetunia65]

Have you ever tested the Smartish cases? I have one for my iPhone 12 and love it. For grip and protection. Now I’m searching for an iPhone 16 case & was curious what else was out there. I think I’ll stick with the Smartish after seeing these cases. I’d like to see drop tests for the 16’s ( sorry if you have done that but I couldn’t find any on you channel)

[@filipinoguy18]

so which one is the best for charging?

[@jbones2121]

Here’s a dumb question - do these super fast usb-c cables also allow super fast charging?? Or just data xfer?

[@Stiegelzeine]

USB 3.0 cables that are also meant for charging usually support 60 or 100w that should be plenty but ofc they can’t keep up with proprietary usb c cables that have been modified to the limit to push like 240w

[@jbones2121]

@@Stiegelzeine thanks for the reply!

[@SirPierreSe]

REALLY good test!

[@mikeb9281]

Many thanks for this informative video 👍 your vide are always brilliant

[@scottpoll1401]

I wish you would do a review of cables offered at Amazon and Walmart as well

[@Panthere.vision]

Can u test with the thunderbolt 4

[@CubeApril]

I'm pretty okay with it, USB 3.1 2x2 Gen 2 or whatever it is called, as well as Thunderbolt cables, are quite a bit larger and less flexible. They use a lot more copper too. For a feature that probably 1% of iPhone users will use, I think that's a pretty solid trade off. I think the bigger problem is that Apple doesn't have anything between these charging cables and their Thunderbolt cables.

[@vilester]

Does it crack?

[@heyspookyboogie644]

This is a great example of why I keep saying throwing USB-C on everything is a dumb idea beyond simple charging. Having a bunch of different cables, all of which support different power levels, data speeds, protocols, etc but all LOOK exactly the same is dumb.

[@swingkat]

Am i looking for 3.0 Gen 1 cables? Not sure which are the fastest now

[@CB-ec4vg]

How did the JSAUX USB C to USB C Cable 100W/5A do? I see the 6 foot red and black braided in your pile.

[@AbeM-e8p]

Your link isnt working brotha.

[@JoBiatch]

Your link goes to Amazon search, not the specific mophie cable.

[@n1knak]

What’s the best cheap usb c (3.0) cable

[@gabperez2526]

Hi! Will the Ugreen Dac Model Usbc to 3.5mm jack will work on iPhone 15 ProMax?

[@misfitsman805]

Are the cables included with a Samsung Galaxy S23/S23+ USB-C 3.0 cables or are they just charging cables with USB 2.0 speeds?

[@caseyalexander2244]

My only question is, should the type C to C cables be MFi certified, or was that just for the Lightning cables?

[@Kusumawardhani1213]

I have same question🤔

[@kellykoffman]

Super helpful video; thanks for posting this! But much more importantly: I'm in love with Monty! 😍

[@lauramertes5934]

What 10 foot cable would you recommend?

[@ariellaponikvar3741]

What should I do for car charging/car play? My vehicle only has usb ports. Would it be best to get a usb to usbc cable or a usb car charger or one of those little pieces that you plug in a usbc to be a usb? Any recommendations? Thanks!

[@АйдарНуриев-ф5т]

Hey, Thunderbolt cable that you have shown at the end is not USB-C one. Their actual USB-C Pro Cable is $69.00 USD ))

[@yutakoh]

Good eye 👍🏽 It's Thunderbolt 2, so it uses the mini-Displayport plug and has a max throughput of 20 Gbps. The one you're talking about is Thunderbolt 4 using USB-C plugs with a max of 40 Gbps.

[@Henry14arsenal2007]

Arent all included cables in any phone USB 2.0? The cost would def add up if they were anything better.

[@Rickylee23]

The dog kept my attention 😂

[@cuccomr]

I am a dog lover, how do you keep your so steady? Mine is like a vulcan, going all aroud 😂😜

[@Leonard176]

what about computers that dont have a usb c port and can you use a adapter?

[@ClarkeThomas]

Great & interesting review. Just bought the C2C caberQU too.

[@cameronmandli1107]

I got the 15 pro. But need a USB 2 to USB C for my stereo… there shouldn’t be any issues??? Correct?

[@Cvmpbell]

Am I safe to use whatever usbc charger? Or do I still only want to use first party ones?

[@Ciaseea]

So thorough. Clicking all your links

[@silver_c1oud]

is it safe to charge my iphone 15 with a pixel usb c cable?

[@jammies701]

Nice vid mate

[@daflito8976]

Thanks for the video. Have you tried sync’ing your 15 pro with a Mac or PC? I’m getting dismal results with a 10Gbps cable. In system information it is recognized as 10Gbps but really not much difference as my 13 pro in syncing (backing up, syncing photos).

[@adambolom435]

Syncing as in with iTunes? I would say that is a software issue. Havent used iTunes in ages but as far as I remember, it was never a pleasant experience, nor a fast one.

[@daflito8976]

I sync using finder on a Mac, iTunes on windows, I even use third party imazing software. None feel any faster w USBC. I’m thinking as a USB host the transfer is fast but the other way around not so fast.

[@newagain9964]

how did it turn out? ive read & watched a lot on this issue since buying iphone 15 but thinking about trading for 15 pro (or a 13). It seems the internal SSD in found in ALL iphone models, wont allow much past 60Mb/s (40 for base 15). I’m trying to confirm if 15 pro can get much closer to USB3.2 Gen2 10Gb/s speeds b4 i decide. Running out of time...may just just get the 13 and see if the 16 is "the one".

[@stefanx5672]

Your AMAZON link do not work in europe. Do you have the ASIN for recommended mophie charging cable 1m USB-C as well?

[@unyquel1]

Nice, informative video. Please do one about the best cable/charger to use for battery/phone health. For me that’s the #1 thing I care about. That’s why I try to use only Apple gear or premium brands, is it worth it?

[@mydigitalanalog]

Been looking for a while and can’t find any specs on how fast the port is on the Samsung s23 ultra, but every forum post that i’ve read say it tests at usb2, even with 3.x+ cables…

[@florianpeter7045]

I appreciate the swiftness

[@SilentMagick]

Should I keep my 20w wall adapter or get a higher Watt wall adapter like the 30w one for when I get my 15 pro max? Also going to get the 2m 240w charging cable

[@dibanasa4033]

my new iPhone 15 pro max charging cable doesn’t allow my car to mirror my phone using the charging cable ( I have to use a usb adapter on one end to plus into my car) Does that mean I need to get this the cable in the description as in a data cable with a usb adapter. Never had this problem with my old iPhone I could just plug the usb bit into the car and the other end into my phone and it would mirror it. Need help please

[@man-bagdammit2297]

Mophie USB-C Charging Cable iPhone 15 link doesnt work for me!

[@Volfas]

I love how flexible and slim the apple cable is tho. I want something like that

[@r8chlletters]

The answer is YES.

[@mattmatrucci]

That’s actually pretty standard. Almost every company ships with a usb 2 cable and not 3 even if they support that speed

[@gulber]

To be honest, when it comes to a charging cable, I'm just looking for durability, charging speeds, and length. Even if I regularly transfer large files between my iPhone and computer (which I don't think many people are doing let's be real) I would just have a dedicated USB 3 cable ready to go SEPARATE from my daily charging cable. I can understand wanting just one cable for everything, but seeing as the Mophie cable is just $10, I don't see the upside in constantly unplugging my charger and plugging it into my computer when I need to do a file transfer. Not to mention the cable itself isn't even 2 meters which is a massive downside for a charger, limiting the range the phone can be used with as it's charging. The 19 inches I would lose can be the difference between having to use my phone on the edge of my bed to having it be positioned comfortably in front of me.

[@adambolom435]

*the cable is 10 dollars more than the apple charging cable - if the cahrging cable is 30 dollars the thunderbolt is 40. No idea about the official price, just winging it, I’m not from the US. But no. USB 2 is a standard for charging cable that goes with pretty much any usb C phone because it’s a charging cable. Similarly, if you buy an external drive you will get a data cable with it, which would be much faster aka usb 3 or thunderbolt.

[@gulber]

@@adambolom435 I'm talking about the Mophie charging cable that was recommended in the video, which comes at just $10 on Amazon currently.

[@adambolom435]

@@gulber my baad. I thought you were talking about the apple thunderbolt cable.

[@TheOfficialOriginalChad]

Although I agree it would be *nice* if Apple included USB 3 cables, how often do you actually transfer data off of your phone via USB? I’ve had both Apple and Samsung flagships for work for the last decade and the only time I ever used USB was to root or jailbreak them. All my photos and videos are cloud synced before I even get home. The number of people that have a use case for USB3.2 is just so small, and the fraction of those that don’t already have a USB 3.2 cable must be in the hundreds lol so I really don’t think it’s *necessary*

[@ihfazhassan1548]

Yes but the carbon footprint in making a usb3 and a usb2 is about the same so just to get more profit apple is doing this

[@WhiteMacbook2010]

the in depth review we all want to watch. byebye unboxT and mkbh!

[@l0vem3n0t]

Lmao thanks for the videos, just hilarious to watch while learning something new too.

[@grcigar9911]

Why the different USB-C standards between 15 and 15 pro? USB-C 3.2 launched in 2017. It is 2023, right?

[@bkkapadia8587]

“The USB-C 3.0 cables are set to be in the iPhone 17 Pro”

[@fixme.96]

that dog is a good boi 😂😂

[@MrSaeedted]

thank for contribution consumer needed knowledge! 🙏🏽