Apple Studio Display Calibrite / X-Rite Full Calibration Guide

Apple Studio Display Calibrite / X-Rite Full Calibration Guide. How to calibrate your Apple Studio Display. This guide will walk you through the process of calibration your Apple Studio Display using Calibrite ColorChecker Profiler which is the same as and X-Rite i1Profiler. Starting out the process with creating a custom preset for your workflow, do a fine tune calibration (feature only available in ccProfiler / i1Profiler software, and the the calibration process with some setting that are tweaked from normal and conventional software calibrated display calibration. Something to note is that I recommend using GB-LED after a lot of testing. The default that ccProfiler selected is WLED. The results are close, so you can experiment to see what works best for your needs and workflow. Overall, the variation is very minor and using either option, I was able to get a color gamut that closely approximate 98-99% P3 color space, with the display confirming more to DCI-P3 than Display P3. But either way calibration works with the current set of software. This guide will also show you where you change, access and control your display ICC profile settings on these new generations of Apple Displays as well.
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[@ArtIsRight]

A few points of clarification. The white point x = 0.3127 and y = 0.329 is the standard specification white point for sRGB, Adobe RGB and Display P3. x=0.3140, y=0.3510 for DCI-P3 (theatre) These are all standard color reference specification, not a number that I came up with. Measured white point will vary from one display to another. Luminance for printing is 80-120 nits, choose a number in this range that is best suite for your environment. And if you want to see how big the calibrated gamut is compared to P3 Standard kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqKriqaAebh-ja8

[@renotahoegraphics]

For DCI-P3 what maximum Luminance: SDR value is ideal? It defaults to 48 or the 80 you input or something else? Also what is ideal between P3-D65 or P3-DCI?

[@pieroroccaysj]

Any insight into why the white point and luminance can't be controlled via the ICC profile and why one now needs to use the fine tuning calibration? For standard targets, this makes no sense to me. For custom targets, sure but it should be managed by the calibration software and ICC profile not through a proprietary method. Very frustrating.

[@andrescastillo4971]

Finally, i didnt understood. In the video you put 0.329 in the x value and here you are saying that should be 0.3127. Which one is right? I would really appreciate if you could clarify that. Thank you ! I really love the way you explain everything and have been very useful to me and many others

[@gennacide]

You have no idea how much I appreciate the info regarding the GB-LED vs WLED. That was a game changer. It looks very comparable to my PV270 now!!

[@ArtIsRight]

Glad I could help!

[@RaphaelMatto]

Perfect-all the information we need & nothing more, huge thank you for figuring this out & sharing!

[@ArtIsRight]

:D

[@kbergher1673]

Yay! Thank you so much for this very instructive video. You presented a very easy to follow method for what is now a much more involved way of calibrating than what we had to do for past monitors.

[@ArtIsRight]

You're welcome

[@RGMGFitness]

Thank you! Just received my new Apple Studio Display and will be coming back to this video shortly to calibrate everything. Much appreciated!

[@ArtIsRight]

👍🏼

[@DrDabbss]

Thank you so much for all your guides and tutorials. Taking the time to grace us with your knowledge and experience. Please continue to do what you do, it's greatly appreciated! To many more videos and subscribers! All the best!

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you, comments like your makes it worthwhile!

[@paulwharton1850]

Seriously, you're videos are amazing - So helpful. Many thanks.....all the way from London !

[@ArtIsRight]

You're very welcome!

[@davekosiur5162]

Great! Thanks for creating this video. Now I can go ahead and calibrate my new Studio Display.

[@ArtIsRight]

Great!

[@seanleblanc4137]

This is fantastic. Great job! Thank you!

[@ArtIsRight]

Thank you too!

[@louisvanzijl3892]

Well done! This was extremely helpful.

[@ArtIsRight]

Thanks

[@jaw6651]

Just the video I was looking for. Thanks.

[@ArtIsRight]

You're Welcome!

[@mrblueeye825]

Perfect Tutorial, thank you. I love this Display.

[@ArtIsRight]

You're welcome!

[@mikemcdaniel4919]

Thank You, I will try your suggestions again to see if my results vary. Thanks for the quick response

[@ArtIsRight]

Any time

[@epronske]

Just got a Mac Studio Display. This was excellent!

[@ArtIsRight]

:)

[@zackrays8879]

Thanks for this!

[@ArtIsRight]

Sure thing!

[@TiffanyHix1]

Thank you so much for this very informative and clear tutorial. I am thrilled with the results! I do have a questions regarding ambient light. We don't need to worry about it at all? I would love to not have to sit in a dark room all the time, lol!

[@ArtIsRight]

no just as long as it is not too bright

[@bartzenglishoe8128]

I had two iMacs that worked flawlessly with my Epson P800 with a 4-brightness level. Prints were consistent print job to print job. I have had nothing but trouble with my Studio display. When compared side by side my iMac prints were superior. My studio prints were flat, muddy and were off color. I used both glossy and matte paper, used paper from several well-known companies. I printed with ICC files, manage by printer and soft proofing. I used different display presets such as Apple(P3-600nits), design and print (P3-D50) and Photo (P3-D65). I developed my own display presets with different color gamuts, white points, gamma and luminance settings. I used X-rite i1 display to calibrate the monitor using both X-rite and the new calibrate profiler software. I used Apple's ColorSync utility to confirm settings. No setting produced acceptable prints. I have found Apple (P3-600nits) at - 6 brightness (not calibrated) is the best display settings for printing.

[@ArtIsRight]

So what is the luminance point in Nit that you are using. The metric you shared is highly relative. Also what light source are you using to view the prints? Did you profile your iMac before? Or was it just as is? I would dm me in fb or insta, this is a discussion and these comment thread are not the best for it.

[@heartsoul4386]

Very good. I used Spyder 5 pro. It appears to have made a postivie improvement to my base p3-d65 L100 profile. I did try to match my old 2013 27" iMac which was intially quite green. The Spyder calibration improved it, but still far more green than my Studio Display. I can't seem to adjust the tint in any way at this point.

[@ArtIsRight]

it mat work but I would examine the result closely. Spyder Devices can't technically calibrate miniLED well because it uses a new spectral - matrix calibration data. Spyder matrix data is stored on the device and it is non upgradable, so you have to update to a new Spyder device to calibrate it properly. Calibrite on the other hand stores these data on the software, hence i1Display Pro aka colorchecker display pro has not needed an update on the hardware for more than a decade now and still works just fine because software has constantly been upgraded to accommodate for new displays. Also another big argument for buying a Calibrite device vs Spyder.

[@johannguasch754]

@@ArtIsRight wow, glad i read your comment. I should really switch back to xrite/calibrite! I switched to spyderX but didnt know about this!

[@SteveSSBB]

Thank you, Art. I re-calibrated using your method and my display looks noticeably better than following my old iMac method. I wouldn't have thought to use GB LED without your advice. I used the SpyderX Pro to measure my WP and calibrate without issue. I'm wondering what the advantage of fine-tuning the WP on the display vs doing it in the calibration is for someone with a 1 display/computer setup. Thanks again!

[@ArtIsRight]

Advantage is that your icc profile is not adjusting the white point, so one less variables to adjust compared to the other options. Plus with fine tune calibration you are tapping into the display factory calibration parameter rather than just relying on the icc. Also less icc profile correction, less digital pasteurization, banding and better overall profile.

[@mobfc1]

Can I ask which software you used to calibrate? I just got the studio display and already have a spyderx pro. I can't figure out the white point measurement

[@kqschwarz]

This video is hugely helpful. I have a M1 MBP and want to add either the Apple Studio Display or the BenQ SW271c. There is no cost difference between the two, as I will use either with a VESA mount. The reason for the second monitor is for my photography hobby. I have a high resolution camera (Sony A7R4) and currently use an NEC PA272W. I will keep that display and add to that either the Apple Studio or BenQ. The problem is I have never seen the BenQ, only watched about 10 videos, including yours. I want the new monitor to be at least 4K and I have to say the fact that the Apple is 5K intrigues me. I would like a display that not only is good for viewing still photos, but also soft-proofing before printing. My question for you is which monitor you would choose if excellence in photography is the most important quality? Thank you.

[@ArtIsRight]

Watch this kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqKriqaAebh-ja8 keyword print, don't get apple display if you print. Photo quality wise you are going to get more from BenQ.

[@valeriomansueti567]

Hello and congrats for the amazing contents. I'd ask you if for videomaking settings it is the best way using as starting point the Photography D65 or starting from HDTV Video preset?

[@ArtIsRight]

Most program color manage now including resolve so you can just do P3, D65, BT1886, choose the brightness that you want and you are good to go. If you want to change the gamut you can to sRGB / REC 709 that is a workflow choice more than a necessity now a day.

[@PRINTHINK]

Hi Art, Thank you for this video. can you elaborate white point and luminance for printing workflow?

[@ArtIsRight]

White point is standard specification, I didn't change anything. Luminance 80-120 works well for printing but if you print, and depending on what you print, this might not he display that you should consider.

[@billbintzer3650]

Thank you very much for this video. I have been using Calibrite on previous monitors, but there was much I did not understand. Now I have a Studio Display, so this was especially helpful. In fact though, I have two of them in two different locations, and move my MacBook back and for the between them. Do I need to set up an ICC Profile for each and then uses Color Synch Utility to select the right one each time I'm in the other location? Or is there something less cumbersome? Thanks!

[@ArtIsRight]

You can just do white point fine tune, stop there and call it the day. If you calibrate the computer is smart enough to know what display is plugged in, through serial number information and etc and should select the correct profile for you.

[@gennacide]

Thanks

[@ArtIsRight]

Welcome

[@rapaent]

Thank You Art for another fantastic tutorial!! Would you perform everything the same with the exception of 3:03 where noted for video? I will be color grading photos as well but, more leaned towards video within FCPX. As always, you explained everything extremely well in which I sincerely appreciate. Thanks again. 👍😊

[@ArtIsRight]

Yes you would just create 2, 1 for video and 1 for photo. Truth be told, unless you are doing 5 digits jobs and up for video, gamma 2.2 is fine. That is what I used for these video, simplicity is still king! :D

[@rapaent]

@@ArtIsRight Awesome!! Thank you Art! Love your tutorials.... You have saved me so much time learning from you! 👍😊

[@andreabeneforti4981]

Iinteresting , Thanks a lot. Is that workflow applicable also to any other monitor for instance a PD2700Q ?

[@ArtIsRight]

No this is only for Studio Display, reference mode / preset is an Apple thing. For PD you want to do this for Mac kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZmTEn2qfrs2pmLM and this kzbin.info/www/bejne/npC3hWyFZ65kmJY totally different method.

[@JohnSmith-zl8rz]

This guides push me to buy that thing! lol

[@ArtIsRight]

I would probably watch the full review first. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqKriqaAebh-ja8 it might or might not change your mind.

[@JohnSmith-zl8rz]

@@ArtIsRight thanks, yes I know that I want it, is expensive but solve all my needs, I don't want deal anymore with other monitor brands issues, but I confess that calibrate it like this video is a pain (for me, I don't have the knowledge). I want the monitor for web design, not print paper.

[@ArtIsRight]

👍🏼

[@HarmeetSingh-ml3vh]

Hi, thank you so much for such a helpful video. I used the same settings you explained using an old x-rite i1pro device to calibrate. I have a question, once I have created a custom profile with 140 nits, is it not possible to brighten or darken the screen using the short commands on the keyboard? I tried it, but it showed a locked sign. Any way to get around this? Also, what would be the best device to calibrate the display? Thank you in advance.

[@ArtIsRight]

That is because you are in a reference mode per this guide. For you to change the brightness you have to go back to Apple Display Reference mode. I give this a watch kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHvYo6iEpt2chpY And I would use Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro or ColorChecker Display Plus for calibration

[@crystals06]

I have the same issue! I don't know what's causing that...

[@marting974]

As usual, excellent video and perfect explanation. I just followed it to calibrate my Studio display in a dual setup with BenQ 270c. Saying that, I really struggle to match both monitor in term of white point. Simply put, I calibrate the Studio display exactly like in your video, and calibrate the benq sw270c with palette master and the same target for white point, luminosity and chose panel native as primaries. Finally, if I display white or 18% grey on both display side by side there is a noticeable color shift between them. Enough to doubt which one is accurate. Any advice on this ? My goal is to have the benQ as photography calibrated monitor and the Studio display as close as possible. Thanks.

[@ArtIsRight]

I would follow BenQ because of the hardware calibration. The point here is that colors will never match, both of the displays that you have are showing colors in different gamuts. One is P3 the other is Adobe RGB, back light and panel is also different as well. So lots of variables here.

[@marting974]

@@ArtIsRight Yes, that was my assumption too. I was comparing P3 calibration on both screen tho. After a week of testing I'm not super happy with the studio display complementing my BenQ because of the color accuracy difference. I'm about to return the studio display and replace it by a benq sw271c. I expect getting a way better match between the 2 benQ, can you confirm ? also there is a difference in size between those two so I assume I won't be able to join the hood between the 2 right ? Thanks again for you time and videos, it truly one of the best ressource.

[@ArtIsRight]

2 BenQ would come closer, SW271C has the bezel around the display so it is a bit bigger than the SW270C. As far as P3 goes, Apple does not use the straight forward P3, as far as I know they tweak their P3 more toward the Blue spectrum, that is another reason why the match is difficult. Try putting your BenQ into M-Book mode and compare, should be close. Let me know the results.

[@marting974]

@@ArtIsRight Thanks, I will do more test. Unrelated but I'm trying to get clean feed video output in 2k from davinci with monitoring device. Can you confirm that the benq sw270c support 2k via HDMI in ? For unknown reason my 2k signal out from DR is coming as 1080p in the Benq despite having correct devices and cables for 2k. Best.

[@ArtIsRight]

Yes SW270C is 2K and HDMI can handle that

[@thecolorlab7398]

Art, could you show us the gamut comparison of the display profile just created that way and the P3? It seems the custom created profile's gamut is way smaller than P3's.

[@ArtIsRight]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqKriqaAebh-ja8

[@gardien340]

Thanks so much for this tutorial! I owned the I1 Display Pro but wasn't aware of ccCalibrate. What white point settings would you suggest for a monitor that doesn't support fine-tune calibration?

[@ArtIsRight]

If you don't have the studio display use this method for 3rd party display kzbin.info/www/bejne/npC3hWyFZ65kmJY or this for older apple display kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKOzlampZ8esZpY

[@gardien340]

@@ArtIsRight wow that was fast! much appreciated!

[@gardien340]

@@ArtIsRight I took the opportunity and purchased a ASD :) The white point was accurate on two digits after the comma 😳Thanks again for this tutorial. Apple should pay you a commission. Do they? 😅

[@ArtIsRight]

Yes their calibration is good and I don't have any relationship with apple. I wish I do at time. But oh well.

[@SteveSSBB]

Hey, Art. Just putting this out there for the user community. Just noticed that display firmware update erases calibration fine-tuning and reverts the profile back to factory default.

[@ArtIsRight]

Steve that is great PSA, thank you!

[@davidligon6088]

Thank you very much for your excellent, informative videos. Struggling between buying a SpyderX Elite or a Calibrite Color Checker Display Plus. Do you have a personal preference. FYI: I use a BenQ 320c monitor (and love it!). I have not been able to find any recent comparisons. I ordered an X-Eite iDisplay Pro Plus on sale from B&H when they transferred those models to Calibrite, but B&H never delivered - they did deliver an X-Rite i1Studio and I’m looking to upgrade.

[@ArtIsRight]

For a lot of technical reason, I would choose ColorChecker Display Pro or Plus over the Spyder. In short, you buy one device and can use it for decades, with Spyder, you would have to buy a new one about every 3 to 5 years as display tech change. So in the long run you'll be paying more for Spyder and their sensor is not as good as the Calibrite

[@davidligon6088]

@@ArtIsRight Thank you for your clear and candid response. Again, I really appreciate your informative videos.

[@ArtIsRight]

:)

[@jasperjb7695]

Thanks for the video again. Is it correct that we have to set the white point first like in the video? Or can you just select the default .icc profile of X-Rite and do the calibration from there without the 'native' setting? Or is it the way you do in the video the best?

[@ArtIsRight]

You should to be the best result. And because the display can do this, there's no point not doing it. Based on my testing, the method in the video is best.

[@jasperjb7695]

@@ArtIsRight Ok, I only did the part from about minute 10. And then with Xrite's default profile. I will follow your method. I can also calibrate it at 120 lmn so that the screen is a bit brighter? Thanks for the video!

[@ArtIsRight]

Choose the luminance that works best for you.

[@jasperjb7695]

@@ArtIsRight After the calibration, ik can't adjust the brightness of the screen. It's a bit dark. I set it back to Apple 600 nits in the display preferences. And i can Adjust the brightness again. In colorsync i see the same profile is active that I created with the calibration. Is that a good way too use?

[@tommykjensen]

I am new to the Mac world and got a Macbook Air M1 using it for photography in Lightroom. My question is can I calibrate the builtin screen on the Macbook ? If so should I do anything differently than what you desfribe in this video ? I do not have the Calibrite yet but plan to buy it soon.

[@ArtIsRight]

This guide will help kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKOzlampZ8esZpY

[@KeystyleMedia]

Thank you for this again. Any suggestions on how to color match MacBook M1 Pro to Display?

[@ArtIsRight]

Can't really, different backlight tech.

[@KeystyleMedia]

@@ArtIsRight I meant to say new Mac display that is being used for Mac studio? Is there a trick to get them close in color ?

[@ArtIsRight]

I think I understand your question correct the first time around and no different backlight tech, different LCD panel, different spectral output, etc. You can try but then you are forcing one display color output to match another using software calibration and that is not necessary a good thing to do.

[@KeystyleMedia]

@@ArtIsRight that make sense. Thank you so much for your time and clear feedback.

[@MohamadAlRifai]

Hello hello, thank you for all the videos you do i tend to always find my answers when going through them! One question i can't seem to find an answer to is that can you calibrate, lets say a 10 bit pannel with 100% dcip and 100% adobe rgb, to match the colors of the display? As in can you calibrate any capable monitor to match Apple Display P3? Thanks

[@ArtIsRight]

Not fully, even if you can match them there are still going to be perceptual variations based on different backlight tech

[@maisie1186]

Im awaiting the new studio mac with a couple of upgrades to use. I was going to get an eizo monitor but then read that wasnt recommended with the computer. What monitor would you recommend to go with the studio computer that would work with the xrite ( which i also need to purchase ) Thanks you. I am a pro photographer.

[@ArtIsRight]

Eizo will work with Mac Studio, not sure where you saw the not recommended remark but it is grossly misleading. These Mac Studio at the end of the day are just computer, and even though they run on Apple Chip. So if you are a pro photographer and want the best color possible and you want to working Adobe RGB color gamut or if you print, then I would recommend looking at hardware calibrated display from either the top of the line Eizo CG display line. Or if you are looking at Eizo CS line, which is one step down from CG line then I would add BenQ SW line to the mix as well. And even if you don't print, there's nothing wrong with having a display that can show 99%Adobe RGB. Hope this helps, feel free to follow up, if you do, please post a new comment this way I see it.

[@paolo.arcangeli]

Great video art! I just bought the Studio Display. I would also like to buy a calibrator, which one do you recommend for this monitor? iDisplay - iDisplay Pro - iDisplay Pro Plus - Datacolor Spider X?

[@ArtIsRight]

ccDisplay Pro will do just fine, unless you do video then get the display plus. X-Rite transition their products to Calibrite, which is why I am referring to these devices as ColorChecker or CC for short, they are exactly the same products, just slightly different branding and logo.

[@paolo.arcangeli]

@@ArtIsRight thanks Art! you are the best!

[@raylo1017]

Do I need to go through all these steps the next time I calibrate my Studio Display in a few weeks?

[@ArtIsRight]

Just make sure you are on the correct reference mode and you are good to go.

[@illdaddyrod]

Would your calibration numbers work for most of us, or are these specific to your monitor only ?

[@ArtIsRight]

The white point is ICC standard value and should be used for all. The measured is based solely on my display and does not represent other. Each display is going to be different.

[@henkhenk4357]

Hello, this is what I needed for information ! I have 2 questions though : if I want 2 presets, say Photograph D65 and Photography D50 1) Should I do a fine tune calibration for both presets or will the data from the first preset be overwritten by the measurement for the second preset ? 2) Do I need to create a separate icc profile for the 2 presets ? Thank you !

[@ArtIsRight]

1. This is where the issue come in, fine tune calibration is global and 1 setting so you can't really do 2 separate fine-then. 2. Yes create a separate icc. Your solutions is not idea, I would use D65 white point fine turn in preset 1 and follow this guide. For preset 2 just have the calibration program adjust the white point, so choose D50 and not native.

[@henkhenk4357]

@@ArtIsRight Thank you ! I wonder if you could take some time to answer 2 more questions ? 1) I suppose the Studio Display is "stable". How often would you repeat the calibration process ? 2) Switching between icc profiles is done in the color sync utility as you showed ? Thank you !

[@ArtIsRight]

1. every 2 - 4 weeks 2. yes

[@valeriomansueti567]

@@ArtIsRight so you mean that every time i want change preset i need to change also the ICC to Colorsync utility?

[@mracomiter]

Thanks for your extremely helpful videos. My question . . . I have two displays: the new StudioDisplay and a Dell 24". I'm using the ColorMunki Photo to calibrate the two monitors (with ccStudio software). When I calibrate the Dell the new icc profile that I created in ccStudio shows up in the list of profiles in the Displays System Preference, the new Profile that I created for the Studio Display is NOT in the list of profiles for the StudioDisplay. I've looked in the Profiles folder in my Library and both of the new profiles are there. What am I doing wrong? Shouldn't the new icc Profile be listed with all of the others in the Displays System Preference?

[@ArtIsRight]

This is the part kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZCoeqxsZbp1irc

[@mracomiter]

@@ArtIsRight Many thanks! Much appreciated. Your videos are indispensable.

[@ArtIsRight]

😀

[@iainm000]

Superb tutorial. Question: Can you think of any reason why Calibrite Profiler would give different results than CCProfiler, using the same procedure in both cases? Using fine-tuned preset Photography (P3-D65) L102, I get an achieved temperature of 6800-7000K in Calibrite Profiler, whereas CCProfiler sticks very close to 6500K. (Using ColorChecker Display Plus, native white point and luminance post-fine-tuning, 461 patches in both cases.)

[@ArtIsRight]

They are using the same prism, so the result should be similar. You might have seen this already kzbin.info/www/bejne/hn2lamahbrqMjcU but I would follow this process and use GB-LED. If you have done this already let me know.

[@iainm000]

@ArtIsRight, Thanks for your reply. I watched the video you mentioned, reset icc profile and fine-tuning to factory defaults. Using un-fine-tuned Photography (P3-D65) with a luminance of 102, nothing else altered (I use 102 because it's the value that gets me closest to 100 measured). Measured values pre-calibration in Calibrite Profiler were great and as expected (L=100.047, x=0.313, y=0.329). However, after calibration, under Calibrite Profiler Profile Information, the results are still off (white point=6785K !!!!, x=0.308, y=0.327). Tried removing fine-tuning -- no substantial change. Tried setting icc back to default in ColorSync Utility -- no substantial change... which was weird. Then I realized that Calibrite Profiler still thought I was using the profile it had just generated (still marked active even though I'd changed it in ColorSync Utility... there may be a bug there). Restarting Calibrite Profiler set everything back to normal, but my icc profile was inactive. Reactivating it manually in ColorSync Utility and remeasured in Calibrite Profiler (monitor quick check) and SURPRISE the measured values are good (L=101, WP=6489K, x=0.313, y=0.329). BUT the "registered target value" colour temperature associated with the profile is still listed as 6785K, which is not the D65 I set up initially. So it seems that there is something wrong somewhere. If you have any thoughts on this, I would be very grateful. (P.S. ccProfiler yields correct results.)

[@ArtIsRight]

dm will be quicker at this point. Did you set the white point to native for profiling. Nothing should change if it was set to native.

[@jamilabbasy]

I upgraded to the new M2 MacBook Pro which now has Ventura. I followed your tutorial to calibrate my Studio Display for Monterey last year, but It seems ccProfiler does not work on Ventura. I will need to upgrade to Calibrite Profiler for use with my X-Rite i1 Display Pro. Do you recommend the new version of the software? And do you use the same settings you mention in this video? Thanks you!

[@ArtIsRight]

It is not Ventura, it is M2 PRO / MAX there are some changes on the graphic output that is causing issue at the moment. Calibrite is aware of this and is working on a fix. And when it works everything that I shared here is the same

[@jamilabbasy]

@@ArtIsRight Ok, thanks…is this M2 issue for both the old ccProfiler and the new Calibrite Profiler software? At least we have the apple fine tune calibration which nicely stays in the monitor when hooking up the new laptop.

[@ArtIsRight]

It is a M2 Pro / Max chip wide issue on both software. M2 (plain version) is not effected.

[@CraigSherod]

Dumb question alert - I've always wondered what to do about the Brightness up/down buttons (F1, F2 on keyboard) in relation to calibrating the display. Should it be centered to start with? Should it be left where it's at after a calibration? Am I screwing up my calibration if the Brightness gets bumped accidentally? I'm a photographer delivering business portraits for display on the web and I especially don't want to hear from a client that all the images look very dark or light on the web (assuming their monitor is not at fault). Thanks for clearing up this insecurity I've had for years!

[@ArtIsRight]

Since these displays are bright, I start with the left and then go up to the right. But with these you can just use the reference mode and you are set. Not need to change brightness blindly anymore.

[@ylemort]

hello thank you for this tutorial. I have a question when I follow your procedure after calibrating my Mac Studio, this one has the brightness blocked, which is normal. On the other hand, I have a small question if I work in an office without ambient light, what brightness would you meter? L30 for example. Thanks for your help

[@ArtIsRight]

Any really, whatever is comfortable for your eyes. If you do pro work then 80- 120 nits. I've seen office around 160 nits as well, it all depends.

[@ylemort]

@@ArtIsRight thank you I will follow your instruction

[@ArtIsRight]

😀

[@joshgoodmanproductions8087]

Hi! For someone that does both photography and videography how do we keep two profiles that may be super different? It’s easy switching with apples presets that are fine tuned but what’s the best method when using the calibrite system going forward?

[@ArtIsRight]

Well yes and not. For the most part if you use P3 it would be one for both photo and video. And even if you choose sRGB / REC709 apple lump that in together so it won't change the equation at all. Still just use 1 profile.

[@joshgoodmanproductions8087]

@@ArtIsRight on my older windows machine I used srgb/rec at 100 lumens for both. But on my mac now I do 120 photo/100 video due to my current rooms brightness. Which is why I figured I’d do two presets. I wasn’t sure how to keep switching between calibrites settings for that. Also second question what if I change my apple preset after calibrite calibration to say normal 600 nit studio cal for general viewing. Does that erase my calibrite calibration?

[@ArtIsRight]

You would use 2 preset yes, but just 1 profile. Since the color gamut is the same because again apple lump sRGB and REC 709 together. The variation of 20 nits won't change out profile outcome much, they would fall in MOE (margin of error). Change preset does not change calibration profile.

[@hyun-kookchoi6349]

... as I understand there is no "native setting", all we can do is adjust Kelvin and cd/nits on top of a pre-calibrated mode. So we are only "correcting" this preset, not really calibrating and profiling to what the display would be capable of displaying natively, right? Having said that, a gamut comparison after calibration would be interesting!^^

[@ArtIsRight]

Watch my Studio Display review for gamut comparisons. This a guide and not a review. These are software calibrated display with some pseudo hardware calibration like capability. So native would be P3 as Apple has calibrated it but there's no free use.

[@joelebosi6168]

do u hv an issue whenever u restart or boot up after shutting down the mac studio, the studio display reverts the icc profile to the factory settings? even though u see the icc profile is still the same in colorsync app, u need to reselect it again in order to hv the correct icc profile being used. it is annoying but it must be done after each boot up.

[@ArtIsRight]

I have not observed this or I have not paid enough attention to it. Usually if the correct profile is loaded, it should be used. What are you seeing that makes you suspect this? I like to know and gather as much info as I can.

[@atelierangelasommerhoff4449]

Hi ArtIsRight, first of all, thank you very much for this tutorial! I'm facing though a bunch of issues that I would like to share with you, hopefully you have some advice how to get those solved. I'm aiming to calibrate my Studio Display with nano-texture screen to D50 and L120. Creating a profile from copying/editing an existing is of course fairly easy. Here are my issues: 1. Set a target value of 120L, the Studio Display Pro will always measure 109L. I tried a workaround by setting the target value of my Apple profile to 130L. in this case, Calibrate measures 119.409L which is pretty close. 2. The measured white point thought is: x: 0.346 y: 0.352 following your reference values for P3 ( x=0.3140, y=0.3510 ) I am getting warning signal right after entering the x value. I'm wondering, if the nano-texture surface doesn't work with the Profiler? Are the reference modes from Apple this bad, that I need to deal with white point fine tuning at all? I actually used 5800 and 120L in the past, but I have no idea how this could be done. If you can help to solve the first part of my challenges this would be awesome! Thanks a lot in advance and best regards, Christian

[@ArtIsRight]

1. Target set and calibration device measurement will vary, this is especially true with different color temperature. Variants can happen. This may also indicate a few things, Apple could not be calibrating the display at D50 range from the factory so the display is using the standard luminance curved at D65 to apply globally through out all display temp. Or they have calibrated it but not really well, I would say the former is more likely, which is why you are seeing the variation. In addition, the calibrator will usually show a ± 5 nits and that is considered normal. Our eyes can't really tell 5 nits apart. 2. The value that I have was for D65 only, if you are using D50 you need to look up the x y reference coordinate online for the color space that you want. Do note that many gamut will use the same x y white point but I would check and don't assume. Nano texture or not, it has nothing to do with this. 3. For 5800K and 120L you need need to find the x y coordinate for the white point in the gamut that you specified. There may be some website that can calculate or give this value to you, but you have to do a bit of digging. It may not be as easy and straight forward to find.

[@atelierangelasommerhoff4449]

@@ArtIsRight Thanks, can you recommend a site "you need to look up the x y reference coordinate online for the color space that you want" ?

[@ArtIsRight]

I did a quick search and so far I came up empty.

[@atelierangelasommerhoff4449]

@@ArtIsRight Look like a fount the simple solution: if you choose any target value within the Calibrate Software, in my case 5800, the corresponding white point coordinates are automatically displayed on the right hand side, right below the color spectrum :)

[@ArtIsRight]

There you go! Fantastic, thanks for the tip!

[@cindyr9739]

Will calibrating with Colorchecker Display (not the plus/pro version) give me an accurate display profile? If so, what settings do you recommend for photo editing?

[@ArtIsRight]

With that device / software combo, you can't do fine tune calibration, the software is unable to do that. But you should still follow this guide up to the point that you create a custom reference mode. From there just run the calibration. You don't have much calibration control with ColorChecker Studio software, but I would follow and try to map out as much as you can the settings from this calibration.

[@billbintzer3650]

My Studio Display died after a power outage and Apple replaced it. When I tried to calibrate it though, I had trouble getting the white point luminance measurement to be in range. When I set MaxSDR to 100 it measured around 30. When I set it to 120 it came out about 112. Both out of range. I then tried 110 and it was in range at 104. What should you do if the luminance measurement is out of range? And thanks again for all you do to help us!

[@ArtIsRight]

Hmm what device are you using to measure and yes that is way off. Not sure what might be causing that.

[@billbintzer3650]

@@ArtIsRight The measurement device is a Calibrate Color Checker Display Pro. It's the same one I used on the previous display with no problem, and also for a second display I have in another location, so really not sure what's different here . . . Any ideas of anything to check? Weird. Thanks !

[@ArtIsRight]

Are you using ColorChecker Profilier software or their newer Calibrite Profilier software? If you are using the latter I would recommend going back to ColorChecker Profilier for now.

[@billbintzer3650]

@@ArtIsRight I am using CC Profiler v1.1.3.16935. I think that's the "Color Checker" software and not the Calibrate Profiler isn't it?

[@ArtIsRight]

Yes that is ColorChecker software, this is interesting.

[@SpsTamiya]

so is the GB-LED the preferred way to measure mini LED ? I presume the matrices still haven't been updated by x-rite ?

[@ArtIsRight]

Not quite, and this display is not miniLED, for now the recommendation is to use the best spectral data for matching or non matching back light but choosing the one that produce the best RGB overlapping curve and calibration outcome.

[@clicknshootermom]

Do you recommend calibrating the monitor in daylight or nighttime?

[@ArtIsRight]

does not matter, you should be working in a lighting control environment though.

[@2424rocket]

Would've been nice to tell us that we have to buy a device at the beginning of the video.

[@ArtIsRight]

You're welcome

[@ci3828]

Hi Art, congratulations for the really well done video. I'm trying to follow the calibration step by step with color checker display pro (just arrived from amazon!). To my personal knowledge, the indicated target white point (x= 0.3127 y= 0.329) is from what source? I tried searching the net, but couldn't find much on this topic. Are these coordinates established by the consortium? I found other coordinates and I would like to better understand the origin from the target data. Thank you. like and subscription guaranteed. Christian

[@ArtIsRight]

That white point is the standard x and y coordinates for D65, sRGB, P3, Adobe RGB, the source is CIE and ICC color consortium. Keywords to use when searching is display white point. You can also find white paper on Adobe RGB that covers this white point information as well.

[@ci3828]

@@ArtIsRight Great thanks. Quickly found it on Adobe. 🙏🏻

[@ArtIsRight]

For some additional info, Adobe number came from CIE cie.co.at

[@ci3828]

thanks for the link art. I will try to study some interesting article, such as D50.

[@ArtIsRight]

You are not going to get much from that link. If you want to learn more about color management you should follow Dan Margulis www.moderncolorworkflow.com/dan-margulis

[@tbuanzn]

I desired L120, but could achieve only L106. How can I achieve L120 using your workflow, Art? Thank you for your excellent instructions.

[@ArtIsRight]

Set the reference point to 120 it is fairly accurate, if your reading is based on this method is off by this much, it may the colorimeter that may be defective or not giving a correct value.

[@tbuanzn]

@@ArtIsRight Thank you Art. The target range did not go as high as 120 (it topped out at 96) when I based my custom preset on "Photography (P3-D65)." However, I was able to achieve L120 when I based the custom preset on "Apple Display (P3-600 nits)" after getting the luminance close via instructions in your previous video.

[@ArtIsRight]

Did you create a custom one like I have showed where you target the luminance?

[@tbuanzn]

@@ArtIsRight The only difference was not starting from the "Photography (P3-D65)" preset. I started the calibration process using the "Apple Display (P3-600 nits)" which allowed me to bump the luminance to 120. When I tried to base the process on the "Photography (P3-D65)" preset, the luminance range topped out at 96. I verified the calibration using your instructions, and achieved a luminance of 119.

[@ArtIsRight]

Ah, that is the issue. For these display, that calibration process can be done but should not be done. That is why apple made these reference modes. I recommend following the guide as is, this is the best calibration guide for these new display out there. Apple has change the display paradigm. Setting the reference to the value that you want is the best way to go.

[@srphoto90]

I’ve been using your white point method to calibrate my 14 M1 MacBook Pro. If I connect to the studio display and run this calibration, will it affect the MacBook Pros display? Should I even run the calibration on the Studio display or just stick to the white point method? Or does it know that the Studio display is hooked up and uses a separate calibration for each monitor.

[@ArtIsRight]

No the fine tune effect each display individually, it technically done on the firmware of the display via the OS. Personally I would do both fine tune calibration and software calibrate. It is fully aware that these 2 are separate displays.

[@srphoto90]

@@ArtIsRight thank you! I have the older Xrite i1 Display Pro. I can do a full calibration on the studio display and just do the more basic white point fine tune adjusted on my MacBook Pro correct? Also, how have the studio displays been right out the box? Is the white point pretty close to the reference X and Y numbers you provided with out fine tuning?

[@ArtIsRight]

Yes with studio display your device will work. And white point is close but not right on

[@michaelschultze3595]

Hi Art, would you recommend a SpyderX Elite + Spyder USB for Benq monitors or Apple monitors? Or is X-Rite the optimum. Do I even need to have one of these if I don't intend to print?

[@ArtIsRight]

Calibrate (Formerly X-Rite) All the way. And if you want to print I would definitely recommend calibration. You don't have to but you'll get better results with calibration than without.

[@michaelschultze3595]

@@ArtIsRight Thanks a lot!

[@ArtIsRight]

:)

[@davekosiur5162]

Question: whenever I go the the Display preferences to pick a preset, the panel quickly displays sRGB, then switches to show the available presets. Why is that? And when I first calibrated the Studio Monitor, I found that the resulting ICC only matched the sRGB color space, no where near a significant portion of Adobe RGB.

[@ArtIsRight]

I notice that as well, it is the profile in the system and that is the way how Apple has program these so I am unable to comment on it. It will only cover about 84% Adobe RGB if you are looking for higher this is not ht panel for you. Based on my calibration test it can show about 98% P3 color space, which is 84% Adobe RGB.

[@mikemcdaniel4919]

Followed your instructions to the letter. Profile said it was saved. Not seeing any difference from the Apple default settings and the new calibration when printing. No difference at all, none. What could I be doing wrong? The Mac Studio monitor is beautiful, my prints are bland and flat, despite looking fantastic sitting in Lightroom on screen. Using the i1 Display Pro. Any suggestions? Thank You

[@ArtIsRight]

The fundamental issue with this is viewing and proofing for prints on a glossy display. Glossy will make everything flattering, i.e. more contrast and saturation and that is the downside. As far as no variation. did you do the reference mode and then calibrate? Did you verify the profile in ColorSync Utility?

[@Crazypreeteens]

Do you know if Wacom’s color calibrator can be used on the studio display and not just on wacom displays? I have a Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 and I’m getting the Apple Studio Display very soon. I have no idea about how color calibration works, or what the best color calibrator is. All I know is that I’ll need to color calibrate my Wacom and my new Apple studio display so that their colors match each other. I just don’t know what to purchase to get the job done. Do you think you can help guide me in the right direction? Any help would be extremely appreciated!!

[@ArtIsRight]

Wacom Calibrator are just technically X-Rite i1Display Pro so it should work. I would give it a try with ccProfiler and see if the program will recognize the device. If it works you have one of the better color calibrator on the market in your hands. You can calibrate them but don't expect them to match. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKm3f4ahrcyJhpo There's nothing that you can buy to do this. So Anyhow, Calibrate Apple display with this guide and the Wacom using either Wacom software or this guide kzbin.info/www/bejne/npC3hWyFZ65kmJY

[@Crazypreeteens]

@@ArtIsRight This is EXTREMELY helpful thank you so very much!! Doing more research on my display devices (Wacom Cintiq pro 24 and studio display), it seems that their color accuracy is pretty darn good straight out of the box. Do you still think it would be worth spending over $200 for a color calibrator then? I would only be working in sRGB (for drawing art). Both have about 99% sRGB color accuracy (but I think the studio display is better…wow. That will be tough choosing which display I’ll entrust with showing me the most accurate colors! Lol). What would be the benefit of getting them supposedly ‘more color accurate’?

[@ArtIsRight]

Personally I would calibrate every display that I use. Factory calibration is not your computer calibration, so for the best result I would do the calibration. sRGB is a relatively small gamut so I would not worry much. as far as accuracy once calibrated they are about the same. what you should ask yourself is what you need more, a display that you can draw on or a pretty display from apple. Your workflow will answer this question for you.

[@susanogando5365]

My system is macOS Monterey v12.6. I do not have the same Display options you are discussing. I do not have the Photography P3 you show from Apple. I don’t know what to do for my selection.

[@ArtIsRight]

Do you have the Studio Display? Or some other display? This only works with Studio Display or Pro Display XDR

[@JohnnyMcPro]

Is there a way to finetune whitepoint using the Calibrite software?

[@ArtIsRight]

yes kzbin.info/www/bejne/hn2lamahbrqMjcU

[@radoanahamed9823]

My ColorMunki Display is old black one. Which not supporting on my mac studio m1 max. Do I need to buy this white one?

[@ArtIsRight]

you can use it with ccstudio software from calibrite but it won't give you all of function you need to do what I've showed in this video

[@radhamesreyes5562]

I use the spider pro to calibrate my MacBook but the tones always come out extremely warm.

[@ArtIsRight]

Lot of issues with using the Spyder for lots of technical questions. First, the recommendation on how to calibrate new apple displays from Spyder is just plain wrong, the are suggesting the old method of calibration, which these display have new sophisticated method of choosing a mode. So not using it is missing the point. Secondly Spyder Devices can't technically calibrate miniLED well because it uses a new spectral - matrix calibration data. Spyder matrix data is stored on the device and it is non upgradable, so you have to update to a new Spyder device to calibrate it properly. Calibrite on the other hand stores these data on the software, hence i1Display Pro aka colorchecker display pro has not needed an update on the hardware for more than a decade now and still works just fine because software has constantly been upgraded to accommodate for new displays. Also another big argument for buying a Calibrite device vs Spyder.

[@radhamesreyes5562]

@@ArtIsRight WOW!! Thank you so much for taking the time to leave such an insightful response. This whole time I figured I must’ve been doing something wrong. Thank you!

[@pictures4urears]

Annoying that after spending over 1000 for a monitor you still have to do this. Thanks for the content

[@ArtIsRight]

It is like spending X amount for a new set of tires, regardless of how expensive or cheap they are the individual wheels still need balancing and all wheels alight for the best performance and even wear. Same is for any pro users with these displays. If one is a casual user then procedure here does not matter but for pro and especially one who prints, event though there are better suited displays for prints, this matters.

[@ericsanchez2399]

How can I get to the presets menu on my studio display when using a macbook pro to calibrate?

[@ArtIsRight]

You don't need the dialog on the display as long as you are selecting the Studio Display Settings to adjust

[@FitzMichael]

Hey ART, what was the Delta E with the calibration?

[@ArtIsRight]

Average usually under 1, Max can be anything from under 1 to up to 3.5 depending on the setting used.

[@paolo.arcangeli]

Hi Art !, I followed your step by step guide to calibrate (Device - Calibrite Pro Plus) my Studio Display. I encountered this problem: Finished the calibration of the monitor with color profile P3 GB_LED L100. After calibrating the monitor I did a test by googling this site, Test Page - Wide Gamut. Now I can't see pictures in P3 mode. By resetting the Apple P3 color profile, I can see the visible elements in P3 mode on the TEST page. why this? it is as if after having done the calibration the color space has become smaller.

[@ArtIsRight]

There are variables and factors that can effect this including Browser. I would check your icc profile in color Sync utility and compare it with P3 to see the gamut variation.

[@paolo.arcangeli]

​@@ArtIsRight hello Art!, I created a shared folder of Google Drive where I inserted the pre-calibration and post-calibration comparison screenshots. I was noticing one thing, Google Chrome does not natively support .ICC profiles, you have to force display in browser applications to read a DCI P3 color space on Chrome. With Safari I can see all objects in DCI P3. That said, the post calibration profile appears to be smaller than the factory one. I await your news, thanks

[@ArtIsRight]

I got the screen shot, I would recommend that you edit the previous comment and omit the google drive link for privacy and security. So a few things. What is thought of as the before icc profile is not a before icc profile, it is just a dummy profile that shows full gamut of P3 Color space. The post calibration profile would be smaller that is correct because that is based on your display output and these can output about 98% P3, which is where that variation comes from. So you can use the before profile but that won't help much because the panel itself can't show the entire gamut. Hope the helps

[@mithrastemplar]

so is this hardware calibration or still considered software? thanks.

[@ArtIsRight]

Software

[@sambandha]

Hi I bought the Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro for my LG monitor. Unfortunately my Macbook pro 16" M1Max doesnt recognise the device. :( it works fine when I use with Windows. I am using a Satechi USB-C adapter to connect the Calibrite device and also tried the Apple USB C to USB A adapter, still doesnt recognise the device in my Macbook. Please help!

[@ArtIsRight]

Best to contact your Calibrite support for help on this, there are numerous variables why the devices does not recognized on your Mac.

[@dynamicaccessuk]

is this all the same for the iMac 5k 27-inch late 2015 Art?

[@ArtIsRight]

No to calibrate that use this guide kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKOzlampZ8esZpY

[@vikrantaga]

@ArtIsRight Please advise on how to use this calibration technique with SpyderX pro? Unfortunately, I bought it before seeing your videos so now I am stuck with the spyderx instead of the X-rite. Please let me know!

[@ArtIsRight]

I think you can do that with the elite but not pro. I'm not sure. I don't have the device or software in studio to test.

[@RoboMagician]

If im using studio display for photo editing in lightroom, and occasional video editing in fcpx, which profile/setting should I use?

[@ArtIsRight]

P3 D65 G2.2 and the luminance that best suites your workflow. Recommended range is 80-120 nits

[@RoboMagician]

@@ArtIsRight as I had been editing photos in lightroom using the default (apple display p3-600nit) setting, the P3 D65 G2.2 120 nit seems a bit too dim. is it normal or desirable? and for media consumption, I should be switching between the default apply p3-600nit and your recommanded setting( p3-d65 g2.2). right? thanks for the reply and the knowledge you provide!

[@ArtIsRight]

What I recommended is pretty much the same as what apple has as one of the default, the variation is the luminance. As long as you don't print you can choose any luminance that you like really.

[@jeffrifkin3603]

I just purchased a new MacMini and am attempting to use my older X-Rite to calibrate my BenQ monitor. I’ve downloaded the newest drivers from Calibrite and inserted the USB into my NacMini. I’m now getting an error message telling me to plug in “the right dongle@ so that I can begin the calibration process. I’m confused. What does this mean? Thank you

[@ArtIsRight]

The better question is what device do you have? If you have the i1Pro, i1Pro 2 or i1Pro 3 spectrophotometer devices you need to use X-Rite i1Profiler software. Otherwise it should work with ColorChecker Profiler.

[@jeffrifkin3603]

@@ArtIsRight I went ahead and downloaded the drivers for Color Checker. Which app do I use to actually calibrate? The Calibrite app or Color Checker?

[@tfarfolini9742]

Hey guys! Weird thing happened to me today.I have bought the new UPS battery, turned off the mac with Studio Display, then switched all to new UPS, and... WOW My color profile has disappeared from the list! This is how it supposed to be??? I guess not... How to protect in future? I had calibrated step by step from above video.

[@ArtIsRight]

Have you checked in color sync utility and color sync folder inside ~/Users/Username/ColorSync/Profiles ?

[@bartekteee]

Hi! How often do you need to recalibrate Studio Display?

[@ArtIsRight]

like any other displays, every 2 - 4 weeks.

[@bartekteee]

@@ArtIsRight Thank you very much :)

[@Mls0275]

Ok I just got the new m2 Studio with the studio display. Trying to calibrate it with my Color Munki and it is not finding the color munki with it plugged in. I plug it in my old imac I was using and it works fine. Any ideas?

[@ArtIsRight]

What software are you using? Calibrite ColorChecker Studio or Calibrite Profilier? The latter may require a one time upgrade fee. Either way you have to use one of these new software.

[@Mls0275]

@@ArtIsRight CC Studio

[@ArtIsRight]

hmm it should work... let me see if I can run a check. You can also contact Calibrite support for help as well

[@PolluxChung]

I keep hearing people saying people buy the overly expensive Apple displays because it's already calibrated....but at the end they still have to do it for serious work. Deep in my mind I want to laugh.

[@ArtIsRight]

All display are calibrated from the factory, it is easy to follow a script or repeat what one don't know truly. Apple Displays are calibrated really well from the factory but non the less, if you want the best based on reference standard you should still custom calibrate. ;)

[@marcusmader8242]

How do I do the manual white point test with the Calibrite Profiler software?

[@ArtIsRight]

This guide walks you through it. You have to choose measure another screen option

[@PswACC]

Why would you calibrate an Apple Studio Display that comes with the calibration profiles already included from factory?

[@ArtIsRight]

That is a misunderstanding. What come with the display are considered reference presets by Apple aka factory calibration, which is not as precise as custom calibrate which can accommodate the computer specific graphic output parameter. Apple presets will get you really close but not precise.

[@RobOutlaw]

Just downloaded the new i1Profiler version 3.6 and it does not have the option to choose the backlit source, ie GB LED etc. Using the i1 Pro 3 spectro one can only run with the default given which is not a choice at all. Perhaps this makes no difference but it is worth noting.

[@ArtIsRight]

It is not the software version but rather the device you are using, Spectrophotometer does not need to identify backlight type for calibration. That is why you are not seeing it.

[@RobOutlaw]

@@ArtIsRight thanks for the response, curious though as to why a spectrophotometer does not need to identify a backlight type while a colorimeter does. BTW your instructional videos are excellent, thanks for providing this information.

[@ArtIsRight]

So think of spectro sitting at the top of the device list, the sensor inside the spectro measure light as is in a way that it does not need the backlight model. The reason why colorimeter needs the back light type is that the sensor on the colorimeter is in a way trained to match the measurement model that was created by a spectrophotometer or color radio meter for the respective display type, i.e. the spectral output which colorimeter cannot measure, while spectro can. Hope this helps

[@RobOutlaw]

@@ArtIsRight it does and thanks again

[@the5fishers387]

HELP! I am trying to setup my new Calibrate color checker display pro with my Mac Studio with 27" monitors and my setup does not look like yours and I don't have the same options!!!! My screen shows the calibrite profiler and yours says cc profiler. Please advise!!!! Thank you.

[@ArtIsRight]

That is the old program, just go to www.calibrate.com in download choose Calibrite Profilier

[@shariargent3955]

@@ArtIsRightArt, I have the same problem, I have the Display Plus HL and the program says Calibrite Profiller, (newest upgrade) I do not get the same options that you do on your screen. I did before, but not now.

[@larkydozer]

my i1 profiler was not detected by ccStudio on my MacStudio M2, w Studio Display. Seems odd that I’m ordering the Calibrite Color Checker Display Pro now. Am I missing something?

[@ArtIsRight]

i1Profilier is a software similar to ccStudio. Do you mean you have an i1Display, or i1Display Pro or i1Display Plus? ccStudio is only compatible with the first one on this list. For others, you have to use ccProfiler. I'm not getting the complete picture here. Either contact your local Calibrite support or dm me with a picture of your device.

[@larkydozer]

sorry…. i1Display.

[@marting974]

Questions for other users, do you get good results calibrating the Mac Studio Display ? i1profiler was giving me good results but the calibrite calibration is not as good. I'm using a ColorChecker Display plus as device. I experimented with White LED and GB LET in the setting as well as the different patches sizes options. I have a second monitor with hardware calibration (BenQ + Palette Master), but the results between both are so far away in the white point rendering despite the xy D65 values being good in the Mac Studio display and the fine tuning process done before software calibration. I'd be happy to hear different workflows and opinions. Best.

[@ArtIsRight]

You are trying to match different display with different backlight type, LCD panel and most importantly color gamut, You can try to calibrate without fine-tune and see what results you get. Another thing you can do is use BenQ Palette Master Ultimate and calibrate to Display P3 and see if the color matches color. Or you can do display clone as well, though it is not advised, it can certainly be done.

[@marting974]

​@@ArtIsRight Thanks for the input, I did what you recommend as test already without any good result. What strike me is previous calibration were way better in matching the white point between both. Correct me if I'm wrong but color gamut differences shouldn't be an issue if I aim the same white point target ? I updated both software and reset the screens settings to start from scratch. In my last tests, I noticed 2 things: - Calibrating the BenQ with palette master ultimate, using the same white point target as the Studio Display is going well. But when I use the white patch measuring tool from calibrite on the BenQ to compare with the target and the Mac Studio, the result are off. - I did a test where calibrated the BenQ with Calibrite instead of PMU, by passing it completely after a reset. And this makes the BenQ matching the Mac Studio. The thing is I know the BenQ should be the reference. Whatever I do the Mac Studio is way more red/magenta and the BenQ green. this difference in a dual screen setup is really affecting my perception for color work (photo + video). TBH I don't like the Mac Studio for this simple reason. Cheers.

[@ArtIsRight]

That is inline with what I found. You can use PMU Color adjust to match the Mac display, that would be an option

[@ArtIsRight]

If you have any more thoughts, comments or questions, please start a new thread, I am not likely to see a reply here

[@Panagiotis-Skordilis]

Can calibrate done with Calibrite ColorChecker Display? (not pro)

[@ArtIsRight]

Yes but not well, you can't do white point with that device, nor can you choose a backlight technology or validate the calibration.

[@Panagiotis-Skordilis]

@@ArtIsRight Thanks for your answer. I have the trash spyder 5 many years and i have also the colorchecker display which still i use with macbook pros :/

[@krigs6137]

Hello. My studio display has strong highlights, and the blue color saturation is also lacking more than 10 delta, is this normal? Calibration doesn't help

[@ArtIsRight]

Probably would contact apple, sounds like it could be a panel defect

[@krigs6137]

@@ArtIsRight The service center said this is normal and not a defect. There is also a glow at the four corners of the monitor

[@tomeaton4396]

Why does anyone know, that I can't select anything other than ambient light when measuring white point ?

[@ArtIsRight]

Are you using Calibrite Profilier or i1Profilier, both should work

[@freddymiguelponce]

Do you make 1 to 1 consultation?

[@ArtIsRight]

I totally do, email or DM me on fb page or instagrams for rates and let's start a conversation there.

[@jasperjb7695]

Argh, I find it difficult that I have 2 studio displays next to each other. And the white differs from each other, for example you see it in 2 finder windows on the two screens. Am I doing something wrong? I will go through your video for both screens. So first measure the white point on one screen, and then measure the other screen. Both screens then have a different value. Then I start the calibration for both screens separately. How can I get them closer together?

[@ArtIsRight]

Are they close without calibration or white point fine tune?

[@jasperjb7695]

@@ArtIsRight yes. Should i fill in the same whitepoint for both display’s? Before the calibration with CCprofiler?

[@jasperjb7695]

@@ArtIsRight Both screens had slightly different numbers when measuring the white point as you describe at 6.42 minutes. Do I have to fill it in the same for both screens?

[@jasperjb7695]

@@ArtIsRight I did take a closer look. without calibration and white point, you can also see the difference. It seems as if one studio Display is less bright than the other (same settings). Can you also measure the brightness of both screens with the CC profiler?

[@ArtIsRight]

Yes measure the brightness by going through the fine-tune calibration step to get the white patch. You can fine tune display A and calibrate it. From there measure the white point of display B and use that to enter the first ROW measured value, then do another white point measurement on Display A again and use the result there to enter in for the Display B reference value 2nd ROW. See how that looks and then run the calibration and see how that looks. Keep me posted.

[@vladrapchan5330]

Would love to better understand why should we choose GB LED even if the display is W LED...

[@ArtIsRight]

It is based on the calibration results and RGB curve tracking. You can choose W LED and run some additional test. This is based on my testing.

[@vladrapchan5330]

@@ArtIsRight I totally get it (and believe you!) I just find really strange that selecting the correct hardware configuration of the display end up yelding the worst result… 🤔Go figure…

[@ArtIsRight]

Got cha, the thing you have to remember is that these hardware configuration are done based on spectral data from display that uses the backlight tech as training models. And even though ASD might be using the WLED, the models that X-Rite has does not necessary include ASD because it is so new. And display backlight tech is one thing but when you combined that with the LCD panel itself, these are variables that can make the result varies from the standard training model and this is the reason why many times they don't work as well even thought the display tech matches. Most of the time, X-Rite would just add support for new backlight tech but the don't necessary go back to modified and append the spectral information of backlight tech they have already made.

[@vladrapchan5330]

@@ArtIsRight Haha! It was so worth it to comment and ask you this question! Awesome answer! Really eye opening! And I guess you know if a determined training model is working best or not in a validation profiling test after the calibration, right? So it's more of a question of comparing final results (dE) e verifying what yielded the best result? Thanks so much for your time! Your channel is gold! ❤️🇧🇷

[@jamesweir6319]

This killed my display. I used this process to calibrate my studio display and the next time I used the display I got a dead screen with a renew message. It has now been at the Apple store for 10 days and they are so far unable to resolve the issue. The photographer who showed me your tutorial and helped me go through it had returned his 2 studio displays because they both had catastrophic crashes after this process.

[@ArtIsRight]

I like to know what is going on. The process here is the same one used in the 14 and 16 MBP. And it didn't crash those. Nothing is done to the display firmware, in fact all of the process is as apple described and allowed to do in the OS and display without using any hack. This sounds like a firmware bug and hopefully it is one that Apple will fix sooner rather than later. The thing is that there are 3 major steps here, at which step cause it to crash that would be the thing to note. Either way good to know. Also first I heard of this.

[@jamesweir6319]

@@ArtIsRight honestly none of it makes sense how this would cause the black screen to me. It worked fine the day we did the calibration at the photo shoot, but the next time I tried to use the display I got the renew message. I would think that was probably a coincidence, but I remembered the person who showed me this had returned both of his new studio displays after they both died. He had done this calibration with both. I’ll update with any new info once the display comes back.

[@ArtIsRight]

Yes please keep me posted. This is bizarre, I would venture that something is going on with the automatic firmware update and the chip on the display. This most likely has nothing to do with the calibration.

[@wadegibbons8064]

For what it is worth, I calibrated my Studio display as per Art's instruction and everything worked fine for 6 months. Suddenly the display went black and then the renew message appeared. After a lot of Apple tech support and sending it into Apple, they were unable to fix it and decided to give me a new display (which has been working fine and calibrated the same way). Sounds like there might be some quality issues!

[@mrz1342]

It doesn’t mean that I don’t need to buy a benq high end monitor for best accurate colour calibration in editing and printing process, and I can use my iMac retina monitor instead?!

[@ArtIsRight]

You can use the display that you have to do color work. Just have to calibrate it. Also you just have to know your display color gamut limitation. I showed this in the video, you can see that Apple displays, though good, are P3 gamut and you can see that P3 only covers about 84% Adobe RGB gamut. So if you don't print on inkjet in studio and you are aware of the limitations you are ok.

[@mrz1342]

@@ArtIsRight this is what I’m exactly need it: photography > retouching > inkjet printing to exhibit or selling! That’s why i need best of best for calibration. I want to see the exact image i shoot with my 102 mp medium format camera on my monitor for editing and then i need to gain the exact colours, depth of dynamic range, tones and shadows, etc. on calibrated high end papers after printing. So, i have the best camera - GFX100S, the best lighting studio by Profoto system, the best inkjet new 24” Epson 12 colours Sure7500, and using the best Germany papers Hahnemühle, BUT I’m not satisfy from my iMac and midrange Benq monitors! Shall i invest for 4k Benq or Eizo or else? Or invest to buy expensive software and hardware of Xrite, EFi, or else?! Please advise. Thank you

[@ArtIsRight]

I would choose a hardware calibrated display first before buying a calibration hardware. But with BenQ you will need a X-Rite / Calibrite device anyways. I'm will tell you that BenQ does the job just fine and it well suited for most photographers needs. Their SW model is great. But at the end of the day if you want the top of the line I would look at Eizo CG line, not the CS line, CS line is like a BenQ. Where as CG line still sit at the top of the heap. You can always give BenQ a try first and see how you like it, if anything you can return it.

[@mrz1342]

@@ArtIsRight Hi, I watched your recent video about Apple Studio Display. Please advise is it better to invest or still, Eizo CG is at the top for retouching and printing jobs? Your recommendation is very important to me. Thank you

[@ArtIsRight]

Like I said different league especially if you are looking at CG. So go with CG

[@fanfan9768]

Waking up from sleep always restores the ICC files. How to solve this problem?

[@ArtIsRight]

that is a macOS bug

[@shariargent3955]

When I started to go through a review and update of the profile that I had no issues with following on the first time through, Calibrite wanted to do an Update. So, I did an Update on my Calibrite Display Plus HL. It is now running 1.2.8. I cannot get any of the screens that I must have been able to get before on the first calibration of the Studio. No White point calibration is offered. It goes straight into “Measurement” I do not get any of the Profile screens comparing the P3, RGB profile to the one measured. It does not use the new profile created. I leave for the UK for 6 months and have another Studio in the UK to calibrate, I am hugely disappointed with this product. The first calibration was brilliant but as with all calibrations, they slip with time, this one has. I cannot get the new profile (used 481 patches with good results using the previous preset) to replace the first one that I did in late December. Not sure what is wrong. Was it the Update? The first time through, I was able to follow your video with now issues and able to do the white point calibration. I cannot even get to that screen now… Help please Art!!!

[@ArtIsRight]

Lots of things to decipher here, I would reach out to Calibrite support either in the US or UK first for help. If they can't help you then dm me.

[@shariargent3955]

@@ArtIsRight I did two days ago, still waiting. Not very responsive.

[@ArtIsRight]

1 person team, if they have not replied to to you yet, dm me with the issue again

[@ArtIsRight]

1 person team, if they have not replied to to you yet, dm me with the issue again

[@shariargent3955]

@@ArtIsRightthey did, I have used the previous model, it seems ok. Thanks Art.

[@Glitch_visions]

Do you absolutely NEED the calibration tool to correctly calibrate it to rec709?

[@ArtIsRight]

for precision yes, but if you want to forego it, Apple reference mode is a really great start.

[@BarbaraKrolOfficial]

Why when I set 5k resolution everything is so damn small.

[@ArtIsRight]

That is the side effect of having more than 200 pixels per inch. Any 4K display or above the resolution should be scaled for ease of use.

[@iSHOOTGR]

One queation if i make a new profile i cant use 600nits?why it doesnt let us change the brightness?i have see your video here but i cant understand kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHvYo6iEpt2chpY. So if i want to calibrate correct i have to work on low luminance 100 instead of 120 of apple profile?

[@ArtIsRight]

you would have to set up 2 reference mode preset one for L100 and one for L600 if you want to profile both. Personally there's no need really to calibrate the 600 nits

[@iSHOOTGR]

No need because the apple600nits have good accurancy or you mean no need the 600nits?

[@ArtIsRight]

No need to calibrate at 600 nits, not because of accuracy but because chances are you are not color grading that that nits, but if you are sure. calibrate it