Apple Vision Pro: Everything You Need to Know

[@snazzy]

Getting a lot of comments about PS VR2 not being 4K per-eye, rather 2K. Here's the thing... it's neither; however, saying 4K is "more correct." Common resolutions we refer to (HD, FHD, QHD, UHD, etc.) almost exclusively refer to consumer 16:9 aspect ratios: 1920 x 1080, 2560 x 1440, 3840 x 2160, etc. Meanwhile, "2K" and "4K" reference the official cinema resolutions that use a 1.90:1 (full container) aspect ratio: 2048 x 1080 (2K), 4096 x 2160 (4K), etc. Today, we use 4K and UHD or 2K and QHD interchangeably even though they're not, technically. Consumer, UHD 4K comes up 160 horizontal pixels short of "4K" but it's still branded accordingly. The horizontal pixel count is inseparably linked to aspect ratio, but the vertical pixel count remains constant given a resolution. DCI-4K and 4K UHD are different resolutions with rather disparate pixel counts but they're both 2160 vertical pixels. VR headsets typically have near 1:1 (squared) displays in each eye. So to say that the PS VR2 (with a resolution of 2040 x 2000) per-eye is literally 2K pixels in each direction, you'd be right. But EVERYBODY refers to "2K" resolution when talking about the HORIZONTAL resolution-not vertical which would either be 1080p or 1440p pixels. At 2000 vertical pixels, you're a lot closer to 2160p than you are to 1440p. Even when considering *total* pixel count, the PS VR2 still, has nearly 500K more total pixels than a 16:9 "2K" QHD display despite having half the number of horizontal pixels. Now it doesn't seem too fair to say the PS VR2 is 2K does it? But it's also not 4K. The reality is, each eye has 2000p display-horizontal pixel count be damned. Put them side by side and you're pretty darn close to resolution and aspect ratio of DCI-4K-closer than you would be to UHD-4K. Does that make it "4K" per eye? No. But it also doesn't make it "2K" per eye. It's 4K-split between eyes. But I don't think that's gonna get past the marketing department...

[@V3RM1LI0N]

Thank you for the explanation big papa

[@dracogordon788]

Congrats, or sorry that happened to you. Idk not reading all that.

[@snazzy]

@@dracogordon788 You’re missing out. Resolution wars are fun.

[@dysonsmith]

Thought the displays on the Reality were going to be 4000 px, not 2000, due to some rumors...

[@FiroNebule]

Most people sort of translate "2k" or "4k" to PPD in their heads, though, even if they don't know the PPD or what PPD is. If I just increase the height of a 3840x2160 screen to accommodate 4k vertical pixels that wouldn't mean the PPD increased and got any closer to the PPD of an 8k screen, it just means I can fit more image on the screen vertically rather than being more detailed. In my opinion that's how calling it 4k can be disingenuous to consumers. Please correct me if I am misunderstanding anything.

[@Soronant]

Most speculation videos are straight up hype and trash clickbait but you actually manage to look at behind the scenes information and make relevant comparisons and explanations of the tech field. Very appreciated.

[@snazzy]

Thanks!

[@joezuu]

Agreed. This was a fantastic video.

[@ChristopheVerdonck]

yep it summed op most thing nicely (besides a few thing in the beginning) and also included more info than i already had. Now that I've watched the video completely here are my additional rumors an thoughts. Rumors say the pack, has 2 stacked iPhone Pro Max batteries for a total capacity of 8646 mAh and indeed 2 hours of use. likely needed because - bright display's to compensate for the pancake lenses (i also notice this on my pico 4 and its even just on medium brightness) - a powerful soc (likely with corresponding TDP) - a lot of sensors including Lidar... The pack is likely also gonna contain the M2 like SOC + supporting electronics like Ram and Storage... This will allow for upgradability. i left out my thoughts about the camera system since it's purely speculation and the info i have is just to conflicting. The display's will be made at tsmc(with Sony tech) at a bom cost of $ 120 a piece. The $ 40 price is indeed the current price @ bulk for decent Pancake lenses. For software, well 2D windows in a 3D space or XR environment work surprisingly well (From my experience with the pico 4) The avatars are gonna be called Holographic avatars if i recall. AR based lip tracking could be done based upon speech recognition, Nvidia already has a technique for this. (but it's still strange they won't use an ir cam for that) And since the Puck (current name of the external device containing the battery) can be upgraded, the power could be increased in the future. Media consumption in VR is awesome btw. Watching 3D/360° media really looks good. (and my experience is just on the pico 4 with 2160*2160 lcd screens and pancake lenses) About the apple VR media content itself, yea i'm also skeptical. maybe the'll re-master content using AI to produce 3D (decent 360° look unlikely) but on this i also must add that i have recently watched a short 3D/360° series called Darth Vader on my pico 4. it was 3 rendered but looked really nice. Later (when i notice the sound didn't move as i moved my headset) i found out this was content grabbed/rendered from a Star Wars VR game. This makes me wonder if it would be possible for Disney to easily port their 3D rendered Disney+ content to VR, by doing a remaster just by re-rendering it. Same for these lego style movies or any other fully 3 rendered series/movies Games, yea probably not much at launch. And at a cost of $ 3000 it will be a niche for gamers unless maybe it supports teathering with steamVR (not to likely) Later in 2025 there will be a cheaper $ 1500 version (made by foxcon) By then there may be a bunch of gaming titles. About using it for virtual screens with like a mac mini/ pro or standalone with my pico 4 @ 2160*2160 per eye this looks cool and okish but not a replacements for real screens. with the 4k screens in the apple headset this likly would look awsome and would be very usable. (exept for the keyboerd i guess) On the last part, i was unaware it would be sold at a loss but your explenation makes allot of sence. if they manly target content creators to get the eco system going. And it would also explain why the went for/allowed an external Puck

[@Bleuducky]

This is definitely for developers, I imagine they’re hoping that the software for this thing will help move future units, but they need to get something out there so people can start learning how to even develop for it

[@McOread]

It's Apple so I don't think so

[@Ray-hw4ig]

Yeah right cause Apple is the king of open source, and open it up and fix it yourself lol

[@Bleuducky]

@@Ray-hw4ig Developing apps on a company's platform does not make it open source. Without software to give a device like this some benefit to offset the cost it is dead in the water. Getting it in the hands of developers will allow them to develop software for it that may give it the functionality needed to actually sell. If iOS didn't have apps written by people other than apple it would never have gotten anywhere

[@datachu]

@@McOread so they're basically just doing what Microsoft already did with the Hololens, except even more expensive, and honestly... Way less cool and unique of a concept.

[@McOread]

@@datachu pretty much...but hey we already know they are the last to the party

[@patrikmedia]

I work remotely on my MBP, having a vr/ar headset that would provide me with 3 huge virtual monitors and actually work very good (higher level and more seamless than Metas solution), I'd be super interested in this. just imagine sitting in a hotel room and not missing out on monitor real estate on the go, absolute game changer.

[@thinmanpaul]

true, but still a niche situation.

[@thundernixon]

@@thinmanpaul At $3000 per unit, yes, this would be a niche situation. But wanting large external displays and working while traveling are hardly niche. If this is good enough and/or gets affordable enough, every airline passenger will want one.

[@tylerpestell]

This is what I want as well and I would pay $3K for it. I could sit and work anywhere.

[@thundernixon]

@@tylerpestell totally, it sounds pretty amazing to have any possible screen size! I bet that a normal external monitor would actually win for long work days, though, just because wearing goggles would probably be tiring and maybe hot.

[@unfinishedsenten]

Nreal Air lets you do the same with just a cell-phone and a pair of sun-glasses. You'd need a power-bank if you'd want to work for hours on end, but for small sessions it should work just fine. A wireless keyboard and mouse and a USB-C cable from your phone to the glasses, and you can either clone your phone's screen, or use Samsung Dex if you have a Samsung phone, or use the Nreal Air software that gives you a desktop version of your phone, similar to Samsung Dex. With Microsoft Office on your phone and connected to your glasses like this, you can set up as many monitors as you want, and you can even place them around the room on different walls or just hanging in the air, and they'll stick there for when you walk past later. You can have 3 monitors floating in your work area with different info, and another in the kitchen with cooking recipes, and another one on the toiler with cartoons running on replay. Then you can just walk around in the house, and they'll just be there. Check out Nreal Air on KZbin, they glasses are basically made for someone in your situation and costs a fraction of the price. PS: You can also connect it to ta laptop, PC, console, DVD drive for whatever reason, anything with a HDMI or USB-C video/audio output, I just used your phone as an example, since you'll always have it anyway, and the glasses are literally the size of sun-glasses, so they aren't a problem to carry around either. Full disclosure; I haven't tried them myself, but I've seen multiple reviews, and they all end up surprised and amazed over how good it actually is. They all basically say they had low expectations and high demands, but Nreal delivered in all aspects and made them change their minds. Some of them even took their time to say something along the lines of "I'll actually continue to use this! It's actually good! I didn't expect it, but I've had it for 30 days and I catch myself using it more and more every day! It's just amazing!". Paraphrasing.

[@CGingerbreadman]

The Airpods Max on your eyes got me lol. As someone deep in the Apple ecosystem and in love with my Quest 2, I'm excited. I typically wait for the 2nd iteration of things, so I hope this first is good enough to merit the making of one.

[@sofiamarieortiz3680]

Can u use quest 2 in mac

[@CGingerbreadman]

@@sofiamarieortiz3680 You can use the Virtual Desktop or Immersed apps with a Mac, but you wouldn't be able to play SteamVR games. However, 99% of the time I'm using my Quest 2 as a standalone device. You don't need a computer for most of what it has to offer.

[@sofiamarieortiz3680]

@@CGingerbreadman hi how do I play roblox with vr in Mac

[@sofiamarieortiz3680]

@@CGingerbreadman and my 2nd option where do I play games with vr when I’m using mac

[@CalumRaasay]

Great overview as always Quinn. Your insight into Apple, especially things such as Cooks legacy, are always really interesting and go beyond what most tech channels cover. Thanks for this!

[@MrUPSman]

Quinn. This is one of your best videos in a long time. You have brought a new perspective to the conversation and covered this in a way I’ve seen no one else pull off. Great job. Cement yourself as the go-to channel for Apple VR.

[@snazzy]

Such kind words! Thank you.

[@y2bangali]

@@snazzy Do you plan on doing a video on the PSVR2?

[@christianhotter]

When I got a headset I was blown away with the experience. At first I had no idea what to do with it, but after trying a couple games I ended up getting another Quest 2 so my family and I could play together. The hard part about selling the headsets is trying to get someone to try it, and getting them to figure out what to do. Virtual travel, concerts, and 360 documentaries would show people the kinds of things that a non gamer would enjoy. It may need to wait for the headset to be able to be put on as you lounge on a couch or in bed.

[@vlcheish]

"The hard part about selling the headsets is trying to get someone to try it, and getting them to figure out what to do." Thats because how bad all VR headsets have been for software and usability thus far. You can't just buy a Quest and start using it. Before you needed Facebook but the device is still bricked unless you register and setup. This is not to mention the terrible bugs it has for design.

[@annode]

You mention concerts. I'm not aware of them for HMDs. I don't yet own a HMD. I'm curious whether a concert could be watched as 'stereo-scopic' or be used to watch a 3D movie like Avatar or Beowulf?

[@JezebelIsHongry]

Yes! Presence is just a word until someone experiences it. I think people compare it to the immersion of a modern video game. And miss the point. When I play Apex or Star Citizen I am immersed but I’m still in the Actual World. Using my daughters Quest 2 was a revelation. It feels like you travel to another reality. A reality plus. That’s why I think they miss the mark if they don’t brand it as Reality Plus.

[@airborneinferno]

I feel like I've just watched an episode of the BBC's "Tomorrow's World". I remember when they broadcast about the new technology called a "Compact Disc" - it was quite fascinating! (Now I feel really old.) This is high quality with insight and analysis that puts it far beyond the norms of KZbinr output. Bravo Quinn!

[@Shadow__X]

The quest pro is not the only headset on the market with pancake optics, the Pico 4 also has them and is also considerably cheaper

[@someoneonly]

Also, Pico will make an announcement soon, some speculate that it might finally be released in north america. Also, to add on to the point about hot processors, the pico 4 uses the same xr2 as a quest 2 but has much better cooling so it is possible to cool a standalone headset

[@NextLevelCode]

I own both the Quest Pro and the Pico4. Selling the Pico4 as the displays are much worse. Screen door effect is bad.

[@Shadow__X]

@@NextLevelCode not sure how that relates to what I said about the *lenses*

[@metageist666]

@@Shadow__X It’s completely related. What are you on about? 😅

[@KptnKMan360]

Owner of Quest Pro and Pico 4 speaking, The Pico 4 is far inferior, but still great. Uses same XR2 ARM chip, pancake lenses, but does not have the clarity or brightness of the Quest Pro. It might just be my biased opinion, but the Quest Pro is absolutely worth its crazy price tag. Just got reduced too. I will say though, the cooling of the Pico 4 is my favourite feature of it, feels like someone is gently blowing on your face, its wonderful. 😌

[@matthewrammig]

It’s amazing how accurate these predictions turned out to be in light of the recent announcement

[@rommel8779]

I always look forward to your videos, super informative and well done. Thank you to you and your team for taking the time to make great content.

[@snazzy]

Much appreciated!

[@serignesaalihoumbackendiay1922]

@@snazzy It is so well researched, written and presented, very few videos capture my attention like yours and provide such interesting insights (not even MKBHD :D) Good job

[@jaysoegaard]

@@snazzy What do you think about Apple going after the events market like sports 🏀 ⚽, concerts, through there Apple plus subsciption. The idea you and your family & friends can share events together in virtual environments. Specialized cameras at these events streamed to headsets with some software magic in between can open the events market for them. And there is a ton of money in the event space. There is a value proposition for the consumer. Your thoughts? Video was literally perfect! Amazing writing and execution!

[@andybrice2711]

I think an external CPU seems like the sensible option for VR. If I'm strapping a computer to my face, I want it to be comfortable. Having a wired device in my pocket is no big deal. I've been doing that with headphones for decades.

[@gomarky]

Quinn, thanks for posting such great videos. They are informative with references and you are enthusiastic while maintaining a level of objectivity. That's great. Just great.

[@Jezee213]

As per usual, another super informative and well done video. It's always a pleasure Quinn. 👍🏻. I'm certainly hopeful for this VR headset to workout, but like you said, the first one isn't going to be great but they have to start somewhere to gauge how it needs to develop in the future so I'm here for it!

[@CornusXBL]

There are a few inaccuracies in the video so take it with a grain of salt. Smallish details but still

[@UncleJessy]

I am really digging 3D modeling in VR and very excited to see what Apple can bring to the table with their upcoming headset - especially if it has a solid passthrough

[@snazzy]

That’s certainly a great application for it! What software have you been using? Thanks for watching, brother.

[@costafilh0]

External battery would actually be a good thing. Make the headset lighter, smaller, and the battery replaceable when it dies or when you are low on charge.

[@TheJoaolyraaraujo]

I think pull this now is the right move. It’s hard to developer something huge behind the curtain for so long holding the progress

[@jon4254]

the leaks were so on point

[@vanilkharbanda]

Damn I'm not used to KZbinrs being this articulate. Good job!

[@aaronglynnwalker]

Dude I just love your videos because you’re a ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ presenter. An inspiration!

[@JamesR624]

6:54 and there it goes. I believe that the "dive mask borders" are the big difference between "new 3D way of computing" and "VR gimmick to play with for a bit and then dump", which is what nearly every VR headset has been. Without a wide FOV, it's not immersive. It's just a slightly more cumbersome monitor.

[@theloner6063]

No.

[@noahsheets1]

You nailed it with your final hypothesis. This new product will be about replacing the existing multi display interface for professional work. It will start as a professional creative tool for more immersive experiences with existing professional software, but in the long term become the default interface for the masses just as mobile phone screens have become today

[@CornusXBL]

7:18 Pico 4 also uses Pancake lenses. Also the Index has an FOV of around 110, just slightly better than something like the Quest 2

[@gradeA50]

It’s super impressive how well you put all this together!

[@mikel2002]

Just had a thought watching this. Every Pixar movie is obviously already rendered in 3D. It would be cool to rewatch them in VR format.

[@wantandlike]

yeah I think the vast majority of people are "I won't try something new until someone else has first". Apple has done well to target the early adapters and will continue to do so, I hope. I will buy their VR when it comes out fingers crossed..

[@funnyent]

Always love seeing your videos. So well thought out and well spoken. I appreciate all the research you put into these.

[@Smashachu]

People need to just realize that battery technology is just simply not there right now for VR headsets to be practically wireless. I've always been a fan of wired ceiling mounts. It's essentially wireless when you have a giant headset on your face.

[@LanceT.]

Quinn, I care about VR. I actually spend a decent amount of time working in VR (in Immersed) mostly because it's novel. Apple is historically late to the market, but they tend to "do it right" and I think that they will improve the software side of VR as well as add some legitimacy to it. Yours is the best summary of the hardware, the reasons for the rumored expense, and the other features that I've seen. What I'd love to see (and this is very un-Apple) is for all of these VR companies to provide some interoperability with each other. If they want the "metaverse" to be the next internet, it can't be owed by Apple, Meta, or HTC, etc.

[@BishopDelicious]

Coming back here after watching WWDC - safe to say Tim Cook’s legacy is secure. This thing might be one the greatest engineering achievements we’ll ever see.

[@eafortson]

Great great video dude. Balanced and super informative. Thank you. 🙏🏽

[@snazzy]

Appreciate it!

[@TheLikeys]

This is by far the best video about the Apple VR system. You captured the entire topic exceptionally well. That’s for what I’m subscribed 💪 Maybe also the expected presentation of the humane product accelerated the timeline for Apple🤔

[@kael13]

I'm like you, Quinn. Been hyped about VR since the Rift but the rate of progress is sloooow. I'm intrigued about this product but I can't really understand what the justifiable use case is at that price. If it's the next paradigm of computing, sign me up, but physics seems to limit that a bit.

[@CF542]

Apple may never release this thing and I may be wrong about this, but I see this as the next Apple Newton. Great idea, ahead of its time (perhaps) and D.O.A.

[@LandRunProductions]

I'm sure I'm butchering the quote----but Steve Jobs said something to the effect of, "Most people don't know what they want until you show it to them." If anyone can finally get the masses to understand how absolutely dope and potentially awesome VR can be, it's Apple. I just want my deep-dive VR before I'm too old to really enjoy it.

[@spadesman_the_first3296]

Am I the only one who remembers all the rumors of the iPad going for $1000 dollars on release, with Jobs calling out WSJ during the event? However he stunned the crowd with the $499 price? I just think we have to wait to get the full details.

[@moow950]

Reminds me of the Google Glass fiasco. Prototypes were very scarce and very expensive for developers to write applications for it. But it never went beyond that phase and failed miserably.

[@Giga1023]

Yeah this is a great example that there still needs to be a lot more innovations in these technologies in order for it to be cheaper and easier to manufacture, we’ll definitely need some more years

[@utubekullanicisi]

7:34 Display analyst Ross Young said the display(s) will have above 5000 nits of brightness, and will also be 4000ppi.

[@zacharychild2993]

This is a crazy high quality video!

[@hunterbsmith]

I’d predict that Apple charges $4999 for this. The whole cable dangling from the headset thing doesn’t make sense to me though. Also, I could see them calling eye id IrisID or something like that.

[@moyado]

This is the most complete compilation of every rumour I have read . Excelente.

[@computer1up]

The Pico 4 also uses pancake lenses. We here in Europe have had the headset for a few months now. Actually, I got mine right on launch.

[@Dionyzos]

The XR Elite also uses pancake lenses

[@zycar_diy]

I didn't saw your comment and pointed out the exact same statement. :)

[@gar_ee8884]

And the Vive Flow, and the Arpara, and upcomming Bigscreen, and XR Elite, and the Gear VR and PSVR 1 weren't using fresnel lenses either lol

[@Deighvihd]

so the stare and pinch method of navigation seems weird until you realize that it will probably be integrated with all of their other devices. (stare at a point on your macbook screen to move the pointer, stare at a point on your ipad to put the cursor there), and if there hand tracking is good enough, then all other inputs can theoretically be emulated with gestures. One thing I hope apple will do is to modify the way virtual keyboards are handled. A traditional keyboard is simply not efficient for non-tactile input like from hand tracking.

[@David-xx7ny]

This is by far the most perceptive comment I've come across in the comment section. Makes total sense. What would they call it? Magic Pointer?

[@foeroon]

Pico 4 has pancake lenses as well, so the quest pro isn’t the only headset on the market with them. It also costs the same as the Quest 2, so it’s probably not the lenses alone driving up the cost on Quest pro.

[@macbitz]

I bought my Mrs a (not cheap) 3D Sony TV for her birthday a few years ago. We've watched *one* 3D program on it which was some ocean/fish documentary, and that's it!

[@deanyt3697]

I love your channel because you can tell you don’t read from a teleprompter. You speak from the HEART yo.

[@JoTokutora]

To clarify Snazzy here. The Pimax is 200 Diagonally, and not Horizontally, which many people would jump to conclude. Essentially the maximum HFOV of the Pimax in 160 degrees give or take. The StarVR One has even wider FOV with no distortion at around 210 diagonally. I own both headsets and they are quite interesting hardware

[@bmeza64]

I get your skepticism but a pinch with your hand for interfacing with the iOS sounds waaaaaaaayyy better than clunky hand triggers and remotes

[@EnnTomi1]

interesting, despite the failure that questpro pico pro and PSVR2 unit sale, apple is going all out with this one.

[@dolewhip4669]

5:58 Wow, Apple headset is really coming

[@codydouglass]

The original iPhone was a success due to it's competitive price at the top of the market. $499 for the 4gb and $599 for 8gb. They then aggressively dropped the 8gb to $399 and brought out a 16gb for $499 in less than a year, which pissed off a lot of early adopters. For comparison the nokia N95 was $730, LG Prada $770. So they absolutely crushed the competition in design and pricing. If rumours are to be believed, the headset will do neither and this will be it's biggest obstacle. But maybe Tim strategy is to recover some of the production costs and build an app system so that they can hit the consumer market aggressively over the coming years. The apple watch seemed like a disaster at first but gradually more people have picked one up over time.

[@AZREDFERN]

Why is it so hard to make a headset with a halo band, and all the components in the back? Like with NVGs. You don’t hang everything off the front of your helmet. You place the equally heavy battery pack in the back to balance it out. You need extra IR light? Sides of the helmet. Quest is like nah, we’re putting everything in the front and using an elastic strap.

[@tractorman7733]

I really want VR to take off, The issue is I can't justify spending that much money on something i'm not going to be able to use most of the time due to software compatibility

[@KlutchAndJerel]

I think the idea of ‘floating iPad apps’ anchored in space around the home/workspace could be very interesting. They could be grabbed, moved, resized… A floating ‘kitchen iPad’ with recipe and grocery apps side-by-side, or a living room iPad with streaming apps to beam video to my virtual 90” tv. If they can make operating a virtual iPad feel good, they may not need to go through all the work of figuring out an entirely new UI to do things we already know how to do.

[@kylelitwack]

I think the biggest improvement apple will bring is processing power. If it's got an m1/m2 it will blow everything out of the water. Even an a series chip would be amazing.

[@artifica0]

Good vid small corrections Psvr is 2k per eye not 4k The index is not more than 120 degrees it’s about 115

[@dluv_98]

this is the best and most thorough video on this subject thus far, very well done

[@Feokian]

I'd be curious if they managed to have the headset function as a standalone Mac device that has something like 3 virtual screens... especially in addition to any other apps it may have. That alone could be a killer feature that the other headsets don't have. Imagine being on a plane but having a full Mac experience with a bunch of full sized monitors available... instead of just a laptop. Like you said, I think it's pretty hard to guess what the software side of things will look like, but it's fun to speculate.

[@mjp2230]

I think it is likely this will mostly be a unit for developers to use in conjunction with the dev kit that will be launched in June.

[@spirobogdanos4241]

Thank you, this is the deep-dive Apple VR video I've been waiting for.

[@teamtechworked8217]

Been a while since I've caught one of your videos. I'm so sorry you lost your house and can no longer afford a razor. Hope things get better for you, you seem like a good person.

[@noahr607]

Really wish Apple would push their AR glasses before their VR, it’s gotta be the first stepping stone that’ll help people see the practical use of displays in front of the eyes.

[@thehumblewolf]

Really well done. I’m all in on this hmd, it’s a product I feel like I’ve been waiting my entire adult life for

[@ColdPotato]

I'm sure this has been asked a million times. But how will this compare on people's eyesight vs staring at an LED monitor all day? The same, worse? Will we all end up being super near sighted? I suppose if costs came down these things might replace monitors eventually as there may be less materials/waste in manufacturing.

[@matthewgarber5517]

I know at least 1 person thats more of a casual user that uses VR. After college I moved out of state and about once a week we launch up a call in the quest and play virtual mini golf. I always see comments with responses like “Just go do that in person”. I don’t understand why people think everyone someone would want to hangout with is driving distance. But as someone who has literally carried external monitors into a hotel for work all I want Apple to get perfectly is multiple monitoring support in VR. The 3rd party solution available for free on quest is good software but the hardware resolution is just low enough to make text difficult and cause eye strain

[@jamesyoungerdds7901]

This was a great catch-up, thank you! I'm an original Kickstarter supporter of the DK1, so it's cool to see the tech progress. I've gone DK1, DK2, Quest 1, Quest 2, Reverb G2 and currently Pico 4 (pancake lenses, and they are so clear). Pimax crystal is exciting and this Reality Pro I think will be super cool once they get rolling on it. One thing about video content, there is such accelerating development in A.I., stable diffusion and other predictive video and rendering technologies (check out Two Minute Papers), it wouldn't surprise me that they can generate believable in-show VR experiences just based on the video footage as source material. I've been dreaming of walking around that apartment and diner in Pulp Fiction for a long time. If that technology doesn't currently exist behind Apple's doors, it will.

[@jamesyoungerdds7901]

@@OverbiteGames That's a good point, and I do hack around with UE5 a bit - but I meant to be there while the scene is actually unfolding - live in the action, in the actual movie. That'd be really something.

[@underweightHater]

questions: - when i'm on a conference call in VR, can poor people show up in another color so i know who to respect? - can i get fancy wheels for it? - can i get it without a headphone jack because courage? - in multiplayer games, can there be a title above my head that says "playing on apple vr" so people know i got it like that? dont let me down, apple!

[@ozten]

It is definitely niche, but I would say that in addition to hard core gamers it has found some success in exercise. Beat Saber as a casual game and exercise workout can't be ignored. I've talked to several people anecdotally who used a box game to exercise. VR definitely has a drawer problem of being too fiddly and getting shoved into a drawer to gather dust. I think a better execution will help. Facebook shot themselves in the foot several times with various FB login, OS upgrade issues, etc.

[@iraklimgeladze5223]

I liked box game a lot but i want AAA boxing game

[@xzygy]

I'm very interested in seeing what they'll do. This really is a market ripe for disruption. It seems like Meta has focused almost completely on gaming, and for the money they're pouring into it, they're producing next to nothing. These headsets remain a collection of independent games/rooms without tieing any of it together. Things like watching a movie and stopping to make a hand gesture, open your email client, scroll a bit, then gesture again to close it and return to your movie. Or making a call without needing to take the thing off and fully break immersion. The very fact that Apple has never been about gaming previously gives me a lot of hope for the device. I really do hope they disrupt the market, it desperately needs it. I'll buy one most likely.

[@peanutismint]

Here’s what Apple’s VR headset needs to be: shaped like a pair of sunglasses, priced to replace an iPhone/iPad and powerful enough to replace a MacBook Air, not run ultra quality gaming experiences. Apple basically needs to produce the iPhone for VR, prompting such wide adoption that it becomes as normal to see someone wearing them as it does to see someone wearing AirPods. Your average Apple user doesn’t want a premium XR experience, they want to be able to watch TikTok videos whilst on the bus to work or write emails on a giant virtual screen during their flight.

[@clintmiller88]

AR headset with MacBooks and iMacs will be nutsssss

[@sadikkadom9566]

Thanks for the deep dive, truly enjoyed it.

[@snazzy]

Thanks for watching!

[@liamcollinson5695]

I believe that the bigscreen vr head set uses micro oled aswell

[@tiagoperuchin]

Man, your vídeos are always full of details. Awesome!

[@snazzy]

Glad you like them!

[@BobbyInBlue]

Great video! The stage is set for something big. I hope it can live up to the hype.

[@vincenzhog8347]

im rly not interested so into vr glasses so much (nauseating half baked experiences) but i am always interested into good calculated thought-through critical video essays ;)

[@spencercollison1695]

Vr/Ar will still change the world one day but it was overestimated in how complicated it would be to get it where it needs to be for the masses. Love my quest 2, its amazing for what it is. Can't wait for quest 3. The dream of ready player one will never die as its just too enticing for our human imagination!

[@bluephreakr]

If they ditch the idea of elegance, they can place the battery and SoC on the _backside_ of the unit which would permit for even distribution of weight on the head. I'm still waiting for the first manufacturer to make a helmet, though. _One_ so when you fall, you'll be protected, but also _two_ more room for electronics.

[@sahilp8727]

I think your'e spot on when you say this is a risk in an attempt to build up software for future products that could change the world if done correctly (i.e. good ar glasses) rather then a product meant to be sold to consumers.

[@johnscott2859]

Amazing video. Incredibly informative regarding VR and insightful regarding Apple’s strategy and possible market approach

[@offbrandDavid]

Awesome video, and what a conclusion at the end! I think you're hitting the nail on the head here. I'll be honest, I think that we will be surprised with how willing people are going to be to jump on VR with Apple's name attached to it. Oculus and HTC struggled with establishing a user base because of the undeveloped market for VR, as well as the high costs. Sony has struggled because the VR headset has been attached to the Playstation and never pushed as a system seller itself. However, Apple sells millions of units of cell phones at 1k, and something that is wildly more visually impressive like VR will attract more people than I think is initially expected for VR. I'm not saying that I think it won't be a rocky start, but I do think that the number of people willing to jump aboard will exceed expectations, and maybe support will follow suit.

[@boomoperator90]

Time for a rewatch.

[@iamalongusername]

I think they need to develop a display that doesn’t need separate lenses. Something like DLP mirrors or MEMS lenses

[@AyeItsJT]

That outro was gas

[@louismartini6983]

Great Video! A LOT OF VERY INTERESTING observations! Great content.

[@zantrex4]

Excellent synopsis of the known info for this product. Thank you for the great video.

[@elliottbeetz6753]

Love this analysis. Great video! I hope it's easy to use - I think apple usually gets that right

[@snazzy]

I hope so!

[@spacedudey2k]

I literally spat my coffee out all over my ipad pro when you had the Airpod Max headphones over your eyes. LOL

[@Neurochrom]

the 0:58 insert was genius

[@benmitchinson9831]

instant like after the airpod max gag lol

[@SWinxyTheCat]

I'm tepid about the Apple VR HMD. I want something better than the Valve Index, which was released almost 4 years ago. But I am not sure that Apple will deliver something like that.

[@panagiotisgalinos1335]

Kuo: Apple Mixed-Reality Headset May Not Appear at WWDC as Mass Production Pushed Back Yet Again. In a tweet, Kuo explained that Apple "isn't very optimistic" about whether the headset will be able to create an "iPhone moment." And here we are again. I sayed it and ill say it again: Something is very-very wrong about this project. Don't even be surprised if it gets cancelled

[@hypervipergtx]

Video after video, sir Snazzy continues to impress.

[@LucGendrot]

It's nice to hear the opinion of someone who is knowledgeable about VR, but isn't a VR content creator (and thus incentivized to rose-tint the situation). I'm beyond excited for these things but when you put it all together like this it's definitely a gamble on Apple's part.

[@snazzy]

Much appreciated!

[@TheStrategyWargamer]

Honestly as a Former Apple Employee i would hope the first Reality product they release is AR Glasses. The VR space is very niche. Targeting such a small market , and of that small market maybe a quarter will buy a Apple VR headset, will not be a success. Honestly I don’t see VR taking off for years if it ever does. AR is where the Revolution awaits. People would pay hundreds for beautiful glasses that offer services like directions, notifications, etc.

[@vasil4n]

Meta Quest Pro is not the only currently available headset with Pancake lenses. Pico 4 has Pancake lenses as well, providing much better quality than the Quest 2 at a lower price. Pancake lenses being very expensive is not the case as well.

[@matr1x327]

VR may be pretty low in use now but as soon an Apple does it, it will magically become the best thing to exist in the world. Yes I'm being salty at sheeps but otherwise I am looking forward to some more competition in the space, hopefully it can kick qualcomm in the ass so they actually do some innovation

[@caleb12qwaszx]

I think if this headset is equivalent or better than the Varjo XR3 in passthrough then even at the crazy price there will be lots of interest. Can't wait to see what people come up with once tracking and passthrough becomes so good that it is indistinguishable from reality.