Apple Vision Pro review: magic, until it’s not

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The Verge

The Verge

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@TheVerge
@TheVerge 8 ай бұрын
Which is more rude - talking to someone wearing an AVP or talking to their “persona” on a Zoom call?
@Roshan_420
@Roshan_420 8 ай бұрын
Neither
@Condimenting
@Condimenting 8 ай бұрын
Why are you always so negative? Stop being such a killjoy.
@Riceordie
@Riceordie 8 ай бұрын
I tried to kiss my mother in law on our Christmas party. Nothing is rude anymore.
@cubaindy6700
@cubaindy6700 8 ай бұрын
Or, The Verge's lame a$$ self-conscious display of "worldly" cynicism.
@kevinbailey8827
@kevinbailey8827 8 ай бұрын
Please don’t be rude to people wearing Vision Pro.
@TheExoticBeard
@TheExoticBeard 8 ай бұрын
This review should be a benchmark for anyone who wants to do tech product review. 30min I couldn't even skip and forgot that I'm watching a video .. feels honest, personal , and to the point. The other reviews of the AVP feels like they are afraid to piss off Apple.
@ryuno2097
@ryuno2097 8 ай бұрын
because if they piss of Apple, then Apple won't send them stuff to review. Then they have to buy the stuff to do review!!!. OMG!!! Can you imagine the horror?? Buying tech to review? That absurd and preposterous.
@trooks40
@trooks40 8 ай бұрын
Agree, this felt well balanced and unbiased compared to every other review I’ve seen so far.
@noah-j00
@noah-j00 8 ай бұрын
mkbhd?
@mackinyoungin
@mackinyoungin 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. The AVP is promising a new computer experience so it’s great how they carried us through that experience before giving us an evaluation based on some fundamental questions.
@SarabjeetSanghera
@SarabjeetSanghera 8 ай бұрын
I know the ones you are talking about. MKBHDGSJA loving the external battery.
@cheekypasta55
@cheekypasta55 8 ай бұрын
This is one of THE best product review videos Ive ever seen. The editing. The pacing. The narration. 100/100 presentation. I stopped caring about the headset halfway through and was just amazed on the production value of this. Well done Verge! And Well done Nilay Patel!
@_beanboi
@_beanboi 8 ай бұрын
very well put
@NoxidZ
@NoxidZ 8 ай бұрын
no really had to stop and sub of how good this was all put together and every word was on point.
@bakakafka4428
@bakakafka4428 8 ай бұрын
Basically you're saying the product really isn't that interesting, and Nilay is more fun to listen to. Well done Apple.
@ThyInfoMan
@ThyInfoMan 8 ай бұрын
Never watched a verge review before but this was one of the best tech reviews I've seen in a while and, considering I basically live on techtube, is saying something. Bravo to the reviewer, dude killed it
@ignorantro
@ignorantro 8 ай бұрын
He doesn't do many reviews but Nilay Patel is the best tech reviewer in the game. And it's not close lol.
@GilbertTang
@GilbertTang 8 ай бұрын
Nilay... he's been in the game... well, since before techtube. Definitely good at what he does and then some.
@chocktalk
@chocktalk 8 ай бұрын
you need to get out more
@NitikSharma
@NitikSharma 8 ай бұрын
same, the whole video was insanely done had me captivated throughout the 28 minutes. def earned a subscriber
@kearlanventures
@kearlanventures 8 ай бұрын
More Nilay, less…well less of almost everyone else…
@TimeBucks
@TimeBucks 8 ай бұрын
This is one of the best reviews I have ever seen.
@supriyanto8401
@supriyanto8401 7 ай бұрын
Thumbs up
@乂
@乂 8 ай бұрын
This was quite a detailed review of Vision Pro. Well done, Verge!
@WSH3TM
@WSH3TM 8 ай бұрын
npc lol
@toniklemm1172
@toniklemm1172 8 ай бұрын
Same! I didn't think I would watch the whole thing, but I did lol
@conchobar
@conchobar 8 ай бұрын
First time I've seen The Verge review an Apple product with the same level of scrutiny they give to non-Apple products.
@tatianaes3354
@tatianaes3354 8 ай бұрын
@@conchobarreally? The Verge has been Google partner for more than decade both for its software and backend. And it shows in reviews like this.
@tatianaes3354
@tatianaes3354 8 ай бұрын
Sadly, poorly done in terms of content. The complains are made in this review ridiculous, and you will not hear them in the reviews of other headsets that have much bigger compromises than this headset. The whole framing is negative while reviews of much worse headsets than this had good vibes.
@arfmf
@arfmf 8 ай бұрын
This is a review I doubt MKBHD can top. And that's saying a lot. Insights, conclusions, b-roll, flow. That's a masterpiece. What a turn (for good) The Verge. Hats off.
@epavlov
@epavlov 8 ай бұрын
I agree. Sad thing in this case, MKBHD will have millions more views that this video and people need to see this video before dropping some much money on this device
@epavlov
@epavlov 8 ай бұрын
Same thing happened with Cybertuck review. MKBHD review was weak sauce compared to for example Hagety review, which was absolutely fantastic, but got a way less views (19M vs 5M). And I say this as a big MKBHD supporter!
@jonathanodude6660
@jonathanodude6660 8 ай бұрын
@@epavlov those numbers are the same order of magnitute. this vid has 30k as of writing. just the unboxing by MKBHD has 830k+ views so far. thats almost 30x more. if his review gets ~20M like the one you mentioned and this one doesnt hit 50k, that is already over a 400x difference in reach.
@rangelo21
@rangelo21 8 ай бұрын
Relax. MKBHD doesn't even have a review video app only an unboxing, let's wait before judging..
@gemsandlasers269
@gemsandlasers269 8 ай бұрын
Well MKBHD is massively overrated, so that's kind of to be expected.
@tobyehrfilms
@tobyehrfilms 8 ай бұрын
This is not only the most grounded Apple Vision Pro Review yet but might just be the best video review of a consumer electronics device ever made
@zimboiii9025
@zimboiii9025 7 ай бұрын
Yeah this guy is pretty good, made me like a Verge video for the first time in my life.
@yahyahmdllh
@yahyahmdllh 8 ай бұрын
Personas = basically Polar Express characters
@JonnyFlash80
@JonnyFlash80 8 ай бұрын
Haha YES! Pretty accurate analogy.
@TheOfficialOriginalChad
@TheOfficialOriginalChad 8 ай бұрын
Nailed it
@davidkaplan5517
@davidkaplan5517 8 ай бұрын
Hogwarts paintings
@o_q
@o_q 8 ай бұрын
reminds me of la noire
@yahyahmdllh
@yahyahmdllh 8 ай бұрын
@@o_q You're right!
@achebeterence6908
@achebeterence6908 8 ай бұрын
"Do you want to use a computer that is always looking at your hands?" That last question really got me lol. Man I've really missed Nilay's reviews.
@TheGlobalProfessional
@TheGlobalProfessional 8 ай бұрын
That was hilarious
@PatrykPonichtera
@PatrykPonichtera 8 ай бұрын
Or do you prefer the one that's always touching them?
@vascodagama6310
@vascodagama6310 8 ай бұрын
🤣🤣 fap fap
@rhadiem
@rhadiem 8 ай бұрын
Yep the hand-controller-centric design is going to be a flop. I say this having used VR since the Oculus DK1. Humans need dedicated controllers for things.
@Felice_Enellen
@Felice_Enellen 8 ай бұрын
@@rhadiem I think you missed the joke he was making. 😆 🍆👋🏻
@Carboncluster
@Carboncluster 8 ай бұрын
Actual journalism in 2024? This video was so great and informative! Really a great piece of journalistic work!
@gregoiredesusanne5127
@gregoiredesusanne5127 8 ай бұрын
Marques saying good thing about the vision pro and the Verge just roasting it💀
@hawkraider0078
@hawkraider0078 8 ай бұрын
Well marques is very biased
@moccamixer
@moccamixer 8 ай бұрын
@@hawkraider0078very bought
@Person-q8n
@Person-q8n 7 ай бұрын
how@@hawkraider0078
@Nightboytothetop
@Nightboytothetop 7 ай бұрын
@@hawkraider0078this is better than any other virtual/augmented reality device we have right now. How is that being biased?
@shnikes8366
@shnikes8366 7 ай бұрын
You took this as a roast? He pointed out what it could do and why it’s not there yet. I thought there was just enough positive with negative.
@ilordepic
@ilordepic 8 ай бұрын
Ive seen many tech reviewers do reviews but this dude killed it goddamn
@zvb7311
@zvb7311 8 ай бұрын
The editing went so hard in this video. Fantastic video showcasing all of the questions we could have about the device. Really great stuff!
@BazilarMembrane
@BazilarMembrane 8 ай бұрын
Rarely post comments but this video absolutely deserves it. Brilliant work of all the people involved, amazing tech journalism as it is supposed to be.
@reckless1280
@reckless1280 8 ай бұрын
thank you!
@OrdinaryCritic
@OrdinaryCritic 8 ай бұрын
That’s a great honor ❤❤❤
@swerzer
@swerzer 7 ай бұрын
"I get my work done with other people.....and I'd rather be out here with them". That says it all........
@jameslenney
@jameslenney 8 ай бұрын
I’m looking forward to the third iteration of this thing. Let’s see in 10 years.
@dr_zaius
@dr_zaius 8 ай бұрын
probably more like 4 years! I'd say they release a new model at least every two years
@teelo523
@teelo523 8 ай бұрын
They need to make it smaller and stylish which can be worn or implated throughout the day
@MachoMan_Vert
@MachoMan_Vert 8 ай бұрын
I'm eager to see Google or Samsung's response lmao.
@MickiMinach
@MickiMinach 8 ай бұрын
I know Nilay is busy with his job but I really wish he would come back every now and then for reviews. I miss the top tier Verge reviews during the Nilay-Dieter era.
@agavechillar3868
@agavechillar3868 8 ай бұрын
Yeah this really was an amazing review.
@TravisChalmers
@TravisChalmers 8 ай бұрын
I have zero interest in this product and couldn't stop watching. Spectacular video.
@AlexanderRoux
@AlexanderRoux 8 ай бұрын
The production quality on this video is next level.
@pistopitpit
@pistopitpit 8 ай бұрын
Yea, it just screams buy me buy me buy me.
@morzee94
@morzee94 8 ай бұрын
This is an excellent review of a product that’s fundamentally hard to review since it’s 1) very different to any product the viewers have and 2) Impossible to really show on a 2D video. I think the most important point is that VR headsets may never become mainstream regardless of how good the tech get. Well done Verge!
@jmiller6066
@jmiller6066 8 ай бұрын
I think a lot of AR/VR enthusiasts are honestly the tech's own worst enemy with the constant attempts to push them as fully replacing conventional interfaces instead of allowing them to be more specialized. Because while the tech is really cool and has some neat applications, conventional interfaces will still dominate, for the same reason accurate speech-to-text didn't replace keyboards.
@Leg_a_less
@Leg_a_less 8 ай бұрын
@@jmiller6066 i think it becomes a level of how good does it really get to be used in daily life. As it stands from here its a hard no, ive personally been a AR, VR fan for a long time buying a Occulus back when they first came out for gaming. but to implement something like this into daily life isnt impossible but i believe we just arnt there yet. Once it gets to a point of, it making life so much easier to the point of efficiency then it will be used. As we no longer press the number pad on our phones 3 times to get the correct letter to type a message. It would need to be at a point of the film Ready Player One. And i also dont believe this will happen for another decade or two due to companies refusing to work together to benefit the technological progress of this industry.
@extofer
@extofer 8 ай бұрын
@@jmiller6066your last point hit the nail on the head. This isn’t reinventing the wheel. It’s a wheel with several extra steps.
@Ren_0096
@Ren_0096 8 ай бұрын
The vision pro really highlights just how impressive the quest 3 is
@ilovedagreenday
@ilovedagreenday 8 ай бұрын
in what way
@JSilv3r
@JSilv3r 8 ай бұрын
@@ilovedagreendayfor one it’s a seventh of the cost 😂
@JackmanJackman-kk6tv
@JackmanJackman-kk6tv 8 ай бұрын
@@JSilv3rbut not better in no way
@tatianaes3354
@tatianaes3354 8 ай бұрын
@@JSilv3rit is so bad in comparison that the price difference looks perfectly justified
@ilovedagreenday
@ilovedagreenday 8 ай бұрын
@@JSilv3r I mean, yeah. It’s definitely less expensive. But I would be curious to see how close you could get to recreating the Apple Vision Pro for $500. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I just don’t know that it would be possible for that amount of money.
@Nytellem
@Nytellem 8 ай бұрын
This is my first time on this channel and damn the production and editing is crisp
@1dering11
@1dering11 8 ай бұрын
What’s the most important thing in your life? Him: my hairstyle.
@Michael_Billig
@Michael_Billig 8 ай бұрын
I am yet to see ONE thing that has me like “I NEED that”
@ilovedagreenday
@ilovedagreenday 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I would love to have one. But it doesn't fit my workflow in a way that I could justify the price. If I had more money lying around I could definitely appreciate what it does offer.
@stylestrydes8360
@stylestrydes8360 8 ай бұрын
You definitely don’t need one, but it really is worth trying out. Seeing spatial video is truly surreal and there are no words to describe how realistic it feels.
@Beautifulbrokenmusic
@Beautifulbrokenmusic 8 ай бұрын
especially at this price point. that's a hell of a lot of money for what is, let's be honest, a novelty right now.
@samuelhere41
@samuelhere41 8 ай бұрын
Yeah no, I am not fooling around with that kind of technology
@pratikxv
@pratikxv 8 ай бұрын
You obviously haven't watched the video , no vr motion sickness , watchng 3d videos , multiple windows etc etc , there are alot of features.
@Retsom3D
@Retsom3D 8 ай бұрын
It IS a Gen 1 device. So i really hope it gets better with more iterations.
@MuhammadKharismawan
@MuhammadKharismawan 8 ай бұрын
18:10 that capability is whats missing in most XR headset, multiple room pinning is important if you want this headset to not be such a hassle to use day to day, open apps in the correct place. easy to walk around with. i hope the demo in apple store would have that baked in so people can just walk around in store interacting with set windows.
@tonyh2596
@tonyh2596 8 ай бұрын
That sounds good in theory but in reality you going to get notifications each time something has moved in the room since the last time you put it on. On my Quest 3 this happens every time I put it back on so I just do a new room scale each time cause it's easier then trying to figure out what has moved
@pandaengine
@pandaengine 8 ай бұрын
Apple made an API to support multiple rooms not long ago. They will most definitely use it in the future features themselves.
@wlot28
@wlot28 8 ай бұрын
That DRM thing is straight out of white christmas
@Undercoverfire
@Undercoverfire 8 ай бұрын
Or Black Mirror
@ethanennis8
@ethanennis8 8 ай бұрын
Or it’s the exact same thing as on your phone…
@Kizzy_B
@Kizzy_B 8 ай бұрын
or menace 2 society @@Undercoverfire
@wlot28
@wlot28 8 ай бұрын
@@Undercoverfire white christmas is an episode of black mirror
@williamward9755
@williamward9755 7 ай бұрын
Once these things get as thin as a pair of sunglasses we’ll all own a pair.
@SfaNoKage
@SfaNoKage 8 ай бұрын
aahhhh, so nice to hear a proper review instead of an ad. thank you
@colinmcauliffe-e3k
@colinmcauliffe-e3k 8 ай бұрын
I agree.
@headerahelix
@headerahelix 8 ай бұрын
The bezels are huge compared to the promo materials. What's even the point of a virtual screen when you can get a real life one for the same price or less.
@ThatZenkiS14
@ThatZenkiS14 8 ай бұрын
apple displays are pretty high, even higher than the vison. but in all honesty as a person with 4 normal vr headsets, and triple screen setup. a lot of what sounds cool about this i can do in vr already, you can place different windows in spaces in vr, exact i cant see though my vr headset. also from apple apps, and other apples features i dont see the point either for most people unless they using it for work and have limited space at home or work.
@anmolsharma4049
@anmolsharma4049 8 ай бұрын
Response time for apple displays is horrible, promotion display is great but 120hz on phone looks more responsive than my macbook pro
@MostachoIrregular
@MostachoIrregular 8 ай бұрын
So VisionOS has a less restrictive windows management than iPadOS which it's based on. iPad Pro users have been asking for this for years. This is ridicoulous.
@zwenkwiel816
@zwenkwiel816 8 ай бұрын
that's apple for ya.
@surewhynot6259
@surewhynot6259 8 ай бұрын
"We don't think you need that." - Apple
@dana_padrino
@dana_padrino 8 ай бұрын
Doesn’t even have Netflix
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate the candid honesty review, including both pros and cons. It's refreshing to hear re an apple product
@seanfindley1428
@seanfindley1428 8 ай бұрын
Amazing review! I love how in depth it was. Enough detail for experienced VR users (like myself, a quest 2 owner) while also covering all baseline stuff for new comers. I think you summed it up well at the end. I think most people's minds will be blown when they put it on (rightfully so) but at the end of the day who wants to wear a heavy headset for hours on end? I love what my Quest 2 can do but after the initial few weeks with the device I only occasionally comeback to it.
@AngryApple
@AngryApple 8 ай бұрын
Yeah and also you come back because of actual fun applications. The Vision Pro has none of them. It has Work stuff and Movies.
@Kenbark42
@Kenbark42 8 ай бұрын
@@AngryApple Yeah because the Rift had so many "fun" apps when it launched too. /s
@AngryApple
@AngryApple 8 ай бұрын
@@Kenbark42 more than the Apple Vision Pro. Even first encounter is better than anything on the Vision Pro
@Kenbark42
@Kenbark42 7 ай бұрын
@@AngryApple Sounds like you alr4eady have the perfect product for you! Congratulations and enjoy your rift man. Very special
@AngryApple
@AngryApple 7 ай бұрын
lol@@Kenbark42
@ItsAkile
@ItsAkile 8 ай бұрын
The fact that Siri isnt some AR lady that assist you in Vision Pro OS
@iscander_s
@iscander_s 8 ай бұрын
They'll probably say it would be "controversial"
@ItsAkile
@ItsAkile 8 ай бұрын
@@iscander_sthis is Apple after all
@shawnpepin7890
@shawnpepin7890 8 ай бұрын
That’s not a sentence
@dexlab7794
@dexlab7794 8 ай бұрын
​@iscander_s Or its just a bland idea
@SmitePlayz1
@SmitePlayz1 8 ай бұрын
​​@@shawnpepin7890"umm, actually 🤓☝"️
@joetarrant99
@joetarrant99 8 ай бұрын
This is the best review of anything I've ever seen. Glad to see Nilay in front of the camera, too! I was loosing it at the end when Joanna said she had not taken the headset off in five hours and ate a sandwich with it on LOL.
@hardyboy1959
@hardyboy1959 7 ай бұрын
@ 04:00 As a Canadian, I can say having a warm headset is a definite selling point!
@randomdude1053
@randomdude1053 7 ай бұрын
🇨🇦
@sebastianraaphorst5133
@sebastianraaphorst5133 7 ай бұрын
As a Canadian, I can say that in the hot Canadian summers, having a warm headset when the temps are in the mid-30s is definitely not a selling point.
@humustrain4723
@humustrain4723 8 ай бұрын
Much better than MKBHD review. Thumbs up
@KidIcarus135
@KidIcarus135 8 ай бұрын
MKBHD's wasn't supposed to be a review, it was a walkthrough. He said the actual review is in the next video. (3 videos total: unboxing, walkthrough, and review)
@LilyWhiteRiot
@LilyWhiteRiot 8 ай бұрын
This is a really strong review. Can't believe how cheap this thing is though -- $34.99! Incredible value.
@BobbyHo2022
@BobbyHo2022 7 ай бұрын
What is $34.99? The strap? 😂
@MrThebigcheese75
@MrThebigcheese75 7 ай бұрын
The box it was shipped in.
@xanderharris5814
@xanderharris5814 7 ай бұрын
This is strangely the best review of any electronic I have ever seen.
@xen._
@xen._ 8 ай бұрын
I don't particularly care about the Vision Pro, but I just wanted to note: this is a phenomenally produced review. Well done!
@zacharyleonard9413
@zacharyleonard9413 8 ай бұрын
VR headsets are just going to get better and better with each new release. If I'm going to want to buy the new version in 2-3 years then I don't want to spend 3.5k on the one I get now. I could get every quest that comes out for the next 5 generations and still save money by not buying this thing now.
@JSonMaui
@JSonMaui 7 ай бұрын
In 2007 iPhone critics predicted it was going to fail. Its glass front which would crack and was a fingerprint magnet. Everyone prefers a keyboard. No apps. Other phones were cheaper and produced by dominant companies. No swappable battery or memory etc. Funny IMO. I guess time will tell.
@sireko
@sireko 8 ай бұрын
"I would say I look like I'm wearing a beret. Let's be honest, I feel llike I'm wearing a beret in this capture" I'm dead 💀
@dream.machine
@dream.machine 7 ай бұрын
🤣 I was crying when I heard him say that
@adrianfox7972
@adrianfox7972 8 ай бұрын
Please do a Quest 3 vs Vision Pro video, great to hear things through a practical point of view in this video!
@addohm
@addohm 8 ай бұрын
Being "The Verge" I fully expected a video full of sales pitches and blowing smoke. Wow was I surprised.
@thegamechanger7352
@thegamechanger7352 8 ай бұрын
The headset relying on eye tracking for control poses a big privacy risk - knowing everything we look at and exactly where. Not surprised if Apple collects this data to study where users are looking
@lukeh990
@lukeh990 7 ай бұрын
Almost definitely as this launch seems so much like a beta it’s probably sending back as much telemetry as they possibly can. But in the first stage it’s probably mainly for the engineers. The real question is can apple sell this new type of data and will data brokers start accepting this type of relatively new data.
@nemou4985
@nemou4985 7 ай бұрын
@@lukeh990 Pretty sure three letter agencies will pay a hefty sum, plus other VR/AR developers.
@lukeh990
@lukeh990 7 ай бұрын
@@nemou4985 assuming the only thing being transmitted back is maybe a photo from the eye tracking camera(s) and the data about the calculations it’s doing. The only real use I see is for developers and engineers using it to analyze where they need to improve. It doesn’t really carry all that much information.
@brg2147
@brg2147 8 ай бұрын
that theater mode made me jealous but then I remembered it's only for apple tv+ and I can't watch my pirated anime with it
@frostedbutts4340
@frostedbutts4340 8 ай бұрын
Give it a week and there should be an app to watch your own conent.
@iscander_s
@iscander_s 8 ай бұрын
For movies you can get an Oculus Quest 2 or better 3. I watched a lot of movies in mine, 3D movies looks even better than in a real movie theater
@bendaigneault
@bendaigneault 8 ай бұрын
3D movies on quest 3 are amazing@@iscander_s
@rintintin_
@rintintin_ 8 ай бұрын
I’m so curious to see what a second special computing product from Apple would address - especially whether or not it would be for the same segment of the market, such as a Vision Pro 2, or a more mass market product at lower cost, with more and different compromises
@kevinbailey8827
@kevinbailey8827 8 ай бұрын
It needs more cameras. Specifically it needs to be able to capture VR180 stills and videos.
@TheOfficialOriginalChad
@TheOfficialOriginalChad 8 ай бұрын
@@kevinbailey8827VR video is headed in a different direction. Simply taking a 180 (or even 360) video allows the viewer to look around, but only in 2D. Taking a 3D video allows the viewer to see 3D, but not look around. There is no physical way to use cameras to take a 3D 180 video that allows the viewer to “look around”. The next phase is using a 3D engine, like a video game, in combination with augmented reality. The area is mapped in 3D and the user can record the subject, which instead of being recorded in a video, is recorded in a 3D model.
@kevinbailey8827
@kevinbailey8827 8 ай бұрын
@@TheOfficialOriginalChad You're wrong about being able to produce 3D VR180 images and videos with a camera. I have a EVO camera that Insta360 put out five years ago and almost immediately dropped. It takes VR180 3D images and videos. I can't use mine anymore because the built-in battery died. Cannon was showing a similar device (though higher resolution) at CES, and if it's under $1000 when it's released I may get one. Insta360 might decide to release an EVO 2. Some of the experiences touted on Apple Vision Pro are VR180 3D, I think. The basketball game, the intimate performance by a singer whose name I can't think of. Where "Spatial Video" feels like reliving a memory, VR180 3D feels like being there. I do hope that recording videos in actual 3D (as a 3D model) becomes a real thing, but I think it's still a few years away from being a consumer-level product.
@TheOfficialOriginalChad
@TheOfficialOriginalChad 8 ай бұрын
@@kevinbailey8827 Firstly, there is no such thing as a video format called 3D VR180. Your camera shoots 3D 180, which is 2 Degrees of Freedom. You can look up and down, but you can’t move up or down, forward or backward, left or right. That’s what I mean by “can’t move your head”. It’s simply not possible for cameras to capture all the angles required for true VR.
@kevinbailey8827
@kevinbailey8827 8 ай бұрын
@@TheOfficialOriginalChad Regardless, I am still hoping for the ability to shoot the stereoscopic version of VR180 so that we can create our own immersive videos.
@liamcollinson5695
@liamcollinson5695 8 ай бұрын
Im glad you said it starts at 3.5k because extras like a a better battery strap carrying case and more bring it closer to 5k
@smithskyes
@smithskyes 8 ай бұрын
Great video! The quality on the production was phenomenal.
@RelaxingReality
@RelaxingReality 7 ай бұрын
No games, no way to watch KZbin VR content, no thank you. This was a fantastic review!
@michaelmiller7928
@michaelmiller7928 8 ай бұрын
in other words, this device will walk so that future devices can run. I knew that Vision Pro was going to be a massive set of compromises at first. Can't wait for another 4 years when version 2 or 3 to see what it becomes. Also great choice in lighting. Aputure paired with Sony Cameras and the Ronin 4D is chefs kiss. Really makes your reviews stand out.
@CurtisAldridge-s9f
@CurtisAldridge-s9f 8 ай бұрын
"Listen to me, do you really want a computer that is always looking to your hands." had me laughing.
@brightboxstudio
@brightboxstudio 8 ай бұрын
Reminds me a lot of the 1984 rollout of the first Mac. Many of the same concerns: Different from the MS-DOS everyone was used to, weird UI (what is this having to click everything with this “mouse” thing?), long list of tradeoffs (no num pad, no function keys, and no color on the tiny 9” screen); and for all of those compromises, a high price of $2495. And yet, the Mac survives 40 years later. It’s worth noting that adjusted for 2024 dollars, the original Mac cost twice as much as the Vision Pro. I can’t think of a reason why I need Vision Pro, but it’s not like Apple hasn’t gone through this already and won, multiple times (1998: “Why buy this new iMac with no expansion, no floppy drive, and unfamiliar ‘USB’ ports for which no peripherals exist?” 2007: ”Why pay $500 for this new all-touchscreen iPhone with no physical keyboard and no apps? So many tradeoffs!”).
@MichaelSchiciano
@MichaelSchiciano 8 ай бұрын
I think the problem is that in those other cases, such as the iMac and iPhone, they were more 'trailblazing' in their own right, whereas with a product like this, a lot of what is being done simply a 'better' version of what other VR headsets are doing, albeit with its own particular gimmicks attached that can have an intriguing, if limited, use case. It can also be noted that some of the more notable issues at play here are ones that are harder to solve by anyone. Issues pertaining to optics, ergonomics, latency/display tech, and so forth. If they really want to do AR - this is the wrong type of product to do that, because it's trying to do AR in a VR form factor. While the iMac lacked expansion, it also was incredibly easy to set up and get running right away, which was part of its pitch to consumers. While the original iPhone was costly and limited, it got a lot of the fundamental ergonomics of using a touch screen solved by step one, including scrolling and pinch-to-zoom. With the Vision Pro, Apple hasn't really done a clear job conveying what it is solving outside of looking kinda neat, doing the screen connection with a Mac (though only one screen is a dealbreaker for me), and using it for media consumption. It's not as easy or clear of a product as other notable, enduring products from Apple's history, and it's probably because it is very likely that this is a bridge product - because the product they really want to make isn't even possible yet to their standards.
@mashirokobato5509
@mashirokobato5509 8 ай бұрын
​@@MichaelSchicianothis product also wouldn't replace MacBook ipad and iphone.. it's just an add on accessories for home entertainment
@technowey
@technowey 7 ай бұрын
Thank you! If there were Emmy awards for product reviews, I think this video should win.
@hedgehoginmist
@hedgehoginmist 7 ай бұрын
This is one of the best tech reviews I have ever seen - honest, thoughtful, funny
@Datsevych
@Datsevych 7 ай бұрын
Tech aside. It’s one the best tech review I’ve seen in years.
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 8 ай бұрын
I think Meta having an app library that's mostly games is good. That's what us Quest fans actually want, more games. The Vision Pro is a spatial computer in an era where that's just not feasible yet, and what consumers want are fun games and experiences. But then this is 3.5k. Consumers are not getting this.
@VictorHCG
@VictorHCG 8 ай бұрын
Apple clearly treats the Vision Pro as a proof of concept. There are so many things in this products that feels unfinished, none of the Apple presidents used it during the Keynote, they even shipped it with beta software. They are just pushing the boundaries, we will see the real product in a couple years yet. Maybe not made by Apple.
@InfoSopher
@InfoSopher 8 ай бұрын
I agree. I have the feeling that Meta will go more in a productivity direction in the future. Once there are better displays available at a mass market pricepoint.
@Jdb63
@Jdb63 8 ай бұрын
​@basicallyhumanExtremely misleading marketing on the outer screen
@1lebedev
@1lebedev 7 ай бұрын
Such a professional review. So grateful Verge’s tech journalism exists. Thanks for the video
@mathewomolo
@mathewomolo 8 ай бұрын
I am saving for version 5.
@shubinternet
@shubinternet 7 ай бұрын
@6:40 -- get the Belkin battery holder, and you can clip it to the headband in the back. Then the device feels much more naturally balanced, even though it is heavier. You then have to deal with routing that long cable somehow that it doesn't strangle you.
@Slurkz
@Slurkz 8 ай бұрын
This review is so incredibly entertaining and well made… 💜 Thanks! I wonder how you guys pulled it off in such a short amount of time.
@HydratedBeans
@HydratedBeans 7 ай бұрын
Wow, the Verge is capable of great journalism.
@emmanuelortizherrera7850
@emmanuelortizherrera7850 8 ай бұрын
Best intro animation, Gold standard
@bigexpectation
@bigexpectation 8 ай бұрын
Somehow this really makes me appreciate the specs of these very old devices I own - called "eyes" and "hands".
@kittipai1632
@kittipai1632 8 ай бұрын
Well, this is such an expertly produced review. In addition to the technical wizardry, the writers weaved a sort of social philosophy into the narrative that felt so compelling. Beautiful review and photography. 👍
@randomdude1053
@randomdude1053 7 ай бұрын
Bro this review was excellent just like the older 2010 era reviews
@515ventures3
@515ventures3 8 ай бұрын
What's terrifying is when people start wearing the vision pro while they're driving behind the wheel! Rest in peace!
@Rom2Serge
@Rom2Serge 8 ай бұрын
​@@GH0STST4RSCR34M this will happen. 1 . Murphy's law - Anything that can go wrong , will go wrong. 2 things are designed for some theoretical use, but in real life they are always used differently . Example that used in computer ethics. Therac-25 radiation beam therapy machine that uses for cancer treatment. With all defense mechanisms that engineers made, their estimated probability of error less than one out of 1 × 10^-9. (If i remember correctly) But it killed more than 20 people by giving them radiation dose like hundreds times higher than any human could actually survive. So will se not just cars , bicycles , riding a dild0s and things we cannot even imagine.
@alihms
@alihms 8 ай бұрын
This could join as one of the more common stupid things people do. I bet someone will be wearing this while driving a Tesla in FSD (full self driving) mode.
@tarakivu8861
@tarakivu8861 8 ай бұрын
@@GH0STST4RSCR34M Many are already that stupid..
@NicWir
@NicWir 8 ай бұрын
​@@GH0STST4RSCR34MPokemon Go 😂
@anderslarsen4412
@anderslarsen4412 8 ай бұрын
​@@GH0STST4RSCR34M You JUST said it wouldnt ever happen. Now you say "Theyre stupid if they do". Which one is it? The problem is that they will cause accidents that harm OTHER PEOPLE. Simply saying "So what? They're stupid" isn't a solution to anything. It won't save the lives lost.
@Abilimarvellous
@Abilimarvellous 7 ай бұрын
Vergecast listener here, Nilay is badass
@phlanxsmurf
@phlanxsmurf 8 ай бұрын
This is a great review. Feels honest, forward, well-produced but not over-the-top. Really good.
@mayatflyt
@mayatflyt 7 ай бұрын
ohmygod the vergecast scissor vodka reference at 1:02. cut through the night!
@erikwsince1981
@erikwsince1981 8 ай бұрын
What’s surprising to me about this review is how much better most all one-man-show KZbinr reviews are, compared to a decent sized media company’s review of it. TBO it feels like this review is still in beta. The comment about how you need to look at your mouse? No, no one is asking you to look at your mouse, just look at where you want on the screen, and then click. Just weird.
@nij2k
@nij2k 7 ай бұрын
What an absolutely incredible review, first one I've watched and I honestly don't think I need to watch anymore
@user-ix4lz7lk6b
@user-ix4lz7lk6b 7 ай бұрын
For me the best vision pro review so far! Great work
@scottbreseke716
@scottbreseke716 7 ай бұрын
Now, what it needs is a secondary display, an iPad you wear around your neck, resting on your chest, facing away from you, so that other people can see what you're seeing.
@justintaylor1099
@justintaylor1099 8 ай бұрын
Maybe the best review of any product that I've ever seen.
@segredosdotiosam9989
@segredosdotiosam9989 8 ай бұрын
These are great for some applications such as been assisted on a complicated repair , performing surgery, simulators. etc... Now traditional laptop or desktop are still the best experience for those "computing".
@jaylynn8630
@jaylynn8630 8 ай бұрын
If Apple continues working on this, I think it could be something truly spectacular in another decade. I hope we get to see that.
@douglasporto2564
@douglasporto2564 7 ай бұрын
This documentary/review was pretty nice!
@absolutsolo2763
@absolutsolo2763 8 ай бұрын
The thing with "You cant show anyone else, what you are seeing" is a problem that exists, because most other people dont own a vision pro themselves - or the software isnt there yet) Its the same with alle the other VR headsets. You are playing a lot of single player games, until your friends own another headset. And then its about the software, where you can share things you'd do in irl - like your screen - but in a virtual room. Like if you share your screen with other people in mozilla hub or bigscreen or similiar things. And if you can do this easily, its gonna become good. I didnt manage to share my screen in bigscreen so far. I tried, but it didnt work. Most probably some router ports need to be opened. I couldnt run mozilla hub either for unknown reasons. But if this works out of the box, its gonna help a lot. And you then can share what you see - to people who arent beside you.
@area28
@area28 7 ай бұрын
Very good review, also critical, this makes it usefull and valuable. And you showed, that is just the beginning - and therefore it is too expensive.
@Denis-zo6qo
@Denis-zo6qo 8 ай бұрын
This product would never had happen under Steve Jobs
@forrestgump2114
@forrestgump2114 8 ай бұрын
I watched more ads on this video than the video itself
@khalid537
@khalid537 8 ай бұрын
"Listen to me, do you really want a computer that is always looking to your hands." had me laughing.
@Nope-w3c
@Nope-w3c 8 ай бұрын
which is the sole reason blankets were invented before AR headsets.
@MrMolchester
@MrMolchester 8 ай бұрын
Best line !
@GavStrange
@GavStrange 8 ай бұрын
hahaha, me too, I snorted out loud at that bit!
@mawreexio
@mawreexio 8 ай бұрын
Sameee
@Starch1b2c3d4a
@Starch1b2c3d4a 8 ай бұрын
Perv
@CameronBoyd-b2w
@CameronBoyd-b2w 8 ай бұрын
The editing went so hard in this video. Fantastic video showcasing all of the questions we could have about the device. Really great stuff!
@Melusi
@Melusi 8 ай бұрын
Why doesn’t the verge just do this the whole time. They could be just as big as any of the other techtube review brands…this is seriously the best review I’ve ever seen on KZbin. Bravo!!!!!
@jonahhammond2438
@jonahhammond2438 8 ай бұрын
The verge isn’t just a KZbin channel 🤦‍♂️
@raf_bw
@raf_bw 8 ай бұрын
Is the first time I spent almost 30 min watching a review and ended wanting more. What a great experience. 😮🎉
@Antenox
@Antenox 8 ай бұрын
It costs money to make these videos, so it's only worth doing for products that they know will attract lots of viewers
@kirillpetrovsky5830
@kirillpetrovsky5830 8 ай бұрын
I really liked Nilay's presentation style. Calm, with a degree of philosophical heft
@ricardorehlander348
@ricardorehlander348 8 ай бұрын
Agree. This was an insanely good and transparent video!
@Talik13
@Talik13 8 ай бұрын
13:04 "You look like... like someone drew you from a memory." "From a nightmare they had of me" 💀
@Blattie
@Blattie 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@robhunt8378
@robhunt8378 8 ай бұрын
That's very instinctive. It really is a nightmare world that we're being dragged to here. I think most can sense it but are powerless to stop it from happening.
@Jabbernut-games
@Jabbernut-games 8 ай бұрын
@@robhunt8378 I mean, $3500 isn’t being dragged out of my wallet to buy this thing. I doubt this kind of technology will ever get cheap enough that everyone will have one. Sure, we’ll sometimes get in a Zoom call and have a weird digital person there, but it’s not like we’re being dragged into a nightmare VR world. You can always choose to not accept new technology.
@DailyRants89
@DailyRants89 8 ай бұрын
@@robhunt8378 money talks. If people don't buy the headset we can stop this from happening.
@teebu
@teebu 8 ай бұрын
@@DailyRants89just like Zuck's Metaverse.
@raineyjayy
@raineyjayy 8 ай бұрын
This is the first review I've heard that sounded like it wasn't written by Apple thank you
@LiliumOrientalis
@LiliumOrientalis 8 ай бұрын
And from The Verge of all places, it's wild
@augustpu94
@augustpu94 8 ай бұрын
ja bcause its written by Meta
@simulacrae
@simulacrae 8 ай бұрын
@@LiliumOrientalis The Verge isn't really pro Apple though. So this review tracks.
@mach1one
@mach1one 8 ай бұрын
@@simulacrae You must be new here!
@SaschaPallenberg
@SaschaPallenberg 8 ай бұрын
just finished it. Absolutely fantastic review. Transparent, honest and exactly what I expected for a device that is supposed to be a game-changer. Thank you... especially to you art director who did an amazing job with this video!
@reckless1280
@reckless1280 8 ай бұрын
thank you! and yes our video team killed it!
@okeynwachie
@okeynwachie 8 ай бұрын
Bro this the best review for this item so far. Every other reviewer has like a series planned because they know we won't get it for a while and trying to maximize engagement or whatever. Just show us everything dammit. Kudos.
@donoryan
@donoryan 8 ай бұрын
This guy is a professional complainer man. This is typical of his style.
@seegee9
@seegee9 8 ай бұрын
​@donoryan I don't think this came across as complaining at all. Clearly it's not a perfect product
@Jovi_97
@Jovi_97 8 ай бұрын
I think people has a series planned on it mostly because it hasn’t been very long since they recieved it.
@varunkandhari4819
@varunkandhari4819 8 ай бұрын
MKBHD 😂
@Kimjongilmao
@Kimjongilmao 8 ай бұрын
@@donoryannah, this guy’s great. He’s just not willing to jump on the hype train like most other reviewers.
@GabrielEvans
@GabrielEvans 8 ай бұрын
After watching both MKBHD‘s unboxing, and Joanna Stern‘s review, seeing them all on the FaceTime call together felt like a tech nerd’s No Way Home
@mikebell1018
@mikebell1018 7 ай бұрын
Why is this filmed like a true crime doc. Those random angles on the guy 😂😂😂😂
@birbies
@birbies 7 ай бұрын
verge forgot theyre not vice
@UnicornPizza
@UnicornPizza 7 ай бұрын
All that’s missing is the creepy music lol
@mynameisben123
@mynameisben123 7 ай бұрын
Yeah but I love it
@rond2077
@rond2077 7 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the Eagles Auto Biography Movie. Nearly Every band member and/or affiliate "looked" at an angle to the camera, EXCEPT, Henley and Frey. I found that interesting, and certainly was a show of "seniority"!
@nicknorthcutt7680
@nicknorthcutt7680 5 ай бұрын
😂😂
@_Daud
@_Daud 8 ай бұрын
This is the first time that I've sat through a 30 min review without skipping even a second.
@Clodd1
@Clodd1 8 ай бұрын
Wait a sec, was it 30 minutes long?!
@foolpersona_
@foolpersona_ 8 ай бұрын
@@Clodd1 lol didn't even notice
@smoll.miniatures
@smoll.miniatures 8 ай бұрын
Every second second? 😂
@markthompson1439
@markthompson1439 8 ай бұрын
me too! Nilay has instantly become my favorite tech reviewer
@alo.productions
@alo.productions 8 ай бұрын
Wow, y'all must be easily entertained, I skipped through it... Meh 😑 not impressed
@kp-ms9tz
@kp-ms9tz 8 ай бұрын
Most of us will just have to wait till Vision Pro SE is released 5 yrs from now for $1k.
@Play-nn3bt
@Play-nn3bt 8 ай бұрын
Man, just buy quest 3
@loicmacken6761
@loicmacken6761 8 ай бұрын
At that point you can probably buy a Quest 6 for like 50 bucks xD
@alphagodvon
@alphagodvon 8 ай бұрын
Just save up or put it on credit.
@hepticftw
@hepticftw 8 ай бұрын
@@alphagodvonif it’s not essential, like a Vision Pro, don’t buy what you can’t afford credit is the worst possible option
@yurmajesty
@yurmajesty 8 ай бұрын
@@Play-nn3bt it’s not the same tho. Different experiences, ecosystems, and abilities.
@CallMeSquilliam
@CallMeSquilliam 8 ай бұрын
I was sitting here watching this thinking “Is this one of the best product reviews I’ve ever seen?” Then I went to the comments and realized I wasn’t alone; this truly was a spectacular review. Thoughtful, informative, critical without being cynical, funny at times, and passionate. This review was the moment I decided to subscribe, because if this is the quality of reviews that I can expect from The Verge, I’m all in.
@royevans1882
@royevans1882 8 ай бұрын
I think he comes across as arrogant and cynical.
@TaoMike-n3x
@TaoMike-n3x 8 ай бұрын
Are you fool?
@royevans1882
@royevans1882 8 ай бұрын
@@TaoMike-n3x Explain?
@BlackParade01
@BlackParade01 8 ай бұрын
​@@royevans1882what?? He seems critical but fair to me
@southwestkinema9149
@southwestkinema9149 8 ай бұрын
@@royevans1882 That's because he is.
@JoeyBoBoey
@JoeyBoBoey 7 ай бұрын
Where is the first jacket from!?
@lisam.willson1679
@lisam.willson1679 8 ай бұрын
I was sitting here watching this thinking “Is this one of the best product reviews I’ve ever seen?” Then I went to the comments and realized I wasn’t alone; this truly was a spectacular review. Thoughtful, informative, critical without being cynical, funny at times, and passionate. This review was the moment I decided to subscribe, because if this is the quality of reviews that I can expect from The Verge, I’m all in.
@Danielr0418
@Danielr0418 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately this kind of quality is mostly tied to Apple products. But it was a wonderfully done review.
@TylerBrown-w2f
@TylerBrown-w2f 7 ай бұрын
are u gonna buy one for yourself
@TylerBrown-w2f
@TylerBrown-w2f 7 ай бұрын
@@Danielr0418are u gonna buy one for yourself
@myroomismyoffice8733
@myroomismyoffice8733 7 ай бұрын
really? the guy is only mooning - 95% negative - bla bla bla
@rond2077
@rond2077 7 ай бұрын
@@myroomismyoffice8733 Don't forget the Doh-Reh-Mee that this thing requires one to "sing".
@Wynnsanity
@Wynnsanity 8 ай бұрын
Does the USB-C port on the battery function for data transfer and an HDMI output? or is it simply for power/charging?
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 8 ай бұрын
Just charging. EDIT: Seems like I misunderstood what he meant by not being able to share the experience. You can do so via AirPlay, which is great. Most TVs nowadays are AirPlay enabled.
@jonlebron
@jonlebron 8 ай бұрын
Screen mirroring is literally listed on the website.@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@Wynnsanity
@Wynnsanity 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, every video I've watched so far seems to just be using the on-headset screenrecording. It doesnt seem that bad for short stuff, but long recordings or trying to do something may be impossible.@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@markjason2
@markjason2 8 ай бұрын
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep ofcourse they will add that stuff, but you need to pay. It's apple,
@toddturner6
@toddturner6 8 ай бұрын
⁠then he's wrong. It's been documented to have screenshare to mac or iPhone
@EmpathVibe
@EmpathVibe 8 ай бұрын
Forget the product for just a second. This is one of the best reviews I have ever seen.
@badopinion
@badopinion 8 ай бұрын
Super appreciate the effort in this episode. 10/10 hats off
@reanimatorpl
@reanimatorpl 8 ай бұрын
What are you talking about? This the worst review on ytube. Focused on technicalities and philosophical stupid questions nobody asked instead of experience and real life everyday scenarios.
@pastuh
@pastuh 8 ай бұрын
Next: Quest3 vs Apple VR
@slodoco
@slodoco 8 ай бұрын
Until it's not :P
@kindofanmol
@kindofanmol 8 ай бұрын
Prediction: This is gonna be the most overrated tech product of 2024
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