The Real Reason To Care About The Apple Vision Pro

What is the Apple Vision Pro actually for? THIS…
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You’ve seen the Apple Vision Pro. But this isn’t a product review. In this video, @mkbhd and I take a dive into what the future might actually look like with this category of tech - and why you should care. (With a cameo from @ryan !)
Honestly, with all the jargon and hype (VR! AR! Spatial computing! Metaverse!), I’ve been tuning out the news about these devices for a while. But now, I think it’s time to turn the volume back up and pay attention. There is a deeply optimistic future that’s possible here. Not Ready Player One, but something else entirely. I’m going to try to show you what it might really look and feel like. If the Apple Macintosh helped unlock personal computing, and the iPhone unlocked computers in our pockets, what is this device supposed to unlock?
My optimistic take is that this kind of tech is the most direct path to a totally sci-fi ability I never thought I’d see in real life. Something physically impossible in the real world… but maybe not in a digital one…
(Note: Apple did not sponsor or pay for this video in any way. I bought my Vision Pro and got it on Friday. Was it worth it? Watch and find out!)
Chapters:
00:00 The Apple Vision Pro is here
01:25 What is the Apple Vision Pro really FOR?
03:09 How to use the Apple Vision Pro
04:49 Teleporting to new places inside the Vision Pro
06:00 How the Vision Pro tricks your brain
07:25 The future of KZbin
09:20 Digital objects in real life
11:33 The problem with personas
12:59 Teleporting to see people we love
15:11 Why care about the Vision Pro
16:50 To support our show, please consider subscribing
Additional reading and watching:
- MKBHD’s Apple Vision Pro Review: • Apple Vision Pro Revie...
- MKBHD’s Using Apple Vision Pro: What It’s Actually Like • Using Apple Vision Pro...
- MKBHD’s Apple Vision Pro Unboxing • Apple Vision Pro Unbox...
- Casey Neistat’s Apple Vision Pro in NYC: • the thing no one will ...
- Apple’s Announcement: • Introducing Apple Visi...
- Apple’s Demo: • Hello Apple Vision Pro
- Wall Street Journal’s Joanna Stern’s Deep Dive: • I Spent 24 Hours Weari...
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[@mkbhd]

Can't wait for the future of shared experiences in these. Might be my #1 highest anticipated feature. Ready Player One AND Two please

[@ZivGershon]

Gotta ask, outside of malicious misconduct with it, what huge social issues do you see in future versions of this products line?

[@abishek786]

Hello Marques, Hope you're doing well also I saw some peeps say that the FOV was really frustrating... Is it true?

[@Leftistattheparty]

Reminder that Ready Player One is a dystopia

[@loubro4809]

now lets have a thought experiment 1. it can feel like dream like the same way in inception and may be you never come out of your dream or not wanted to come out this can lead to a pandemic of sleep no one would be seen in the streets , it may also effect how we react to the physical world

[@loubro4809]

this is real life INCEPTION Christopher Nolan will be proud🤔🤯

[@master_rafiki]

When Marques lifted the rear panel of the F1 car, Cleo should have been able to see that. Two people in the same room have to be able to interact with the same virtual object collaboratively.

[@scottmartin5492]

The developer docs for the Vision Pro are pretty clear that the OS supports shared-app experiences like that. Maybe the developers haven't built their apps out with those frameworks yet?

[@goofballbiscuits3647]

It's sad, but multi-user edits on the same document is a relatively new feature in the grand scheme of CS

[@onlythatonetime]

My first reaction. I actually expected that she WOULD see it until he told her to pinch to lift.

[@wakjagner]

There's apps that do this already, just not the one they are using.That's an apple thing, not a hardware thing.

[@portalteam5832]

that's not quite the same as multi-user edits... it's more like moving an item in a multiplayer game and everyone seeing it move, which has been working for years, if not decades, in video games. This is just a matter of the developer not implementing it in this experience @@goofballbiscuits3647

[@jitujoshi1598]

Am i the only one that feels relaxed when i get my work finished and get relief that i dont have to look at another screen for the rest of the day?

[@Kevin-yc2oj]

You are not the only one

[@user-lu9zc4of9j]

Fortunately not everyone works behind a screen their whole life

[@leana087]

Guess you're at work right now then? What are you doing on youtube?!😜 No but jokes aside, what I'm thinking is : how many people will need to sacrifice time away from their family and friends to make this future tech happen? Pretty ironic am I right?

[@dylangarcia9468]

this is my device FOR work

[@OriginalThisAndThat]

Something that you cant get from any store is freedom and relax in the nature.

[@danieljankowski3849]

Cleo, is undeniably addressing one of the most important issues of our time -- connection. Not connecting in the meme, text, or 5 second social media way, but getting back to slowing down and spending quality time with others. For technology to actually help with worthwhile and meaningful connection would be huge. Im excited to see if this type of tech can bring us closer as family, friends, and society.

[@illused]

Who needs connection when we have ENDLESS PERSISTENT 3D MONITORING? Share the experience of your child's birth with THEM! Expand the circle of people you care about by giving them access... Someone once said "there are no more secrets"

[@slob5041]

She’s pretty

[@hottlatinoboi]

You want to connect, do it in person. You don't need to pay $3500 to connect with people.

[@Reinvntngurxit]

​@@hottlatinoboithis. All this "we can connect even deeper"... It's all a sham, just connect IN PERSON why are you using a screen for this?

[@joshpipe7755]

@@Reinvntngurxit But what do you do when that person lives abroad and neither of you can afford to travel?

[@garrithsmith799]

As a maintenance engineer dealing with breakdowns, I could imagine using this to assist in fault finding. I could even have the diagram and manual of the machine in front of me whilst working!

[@avd1697]

Design engineer here, it would help me so much visualizing how the parts I design interacts

[@progtom7585]

Cant you already have the diagram and the manual in front of you on a computer, ipad, phone, or piece of dead tree?

[@garrithsmith799]

@@progtom7585 Yes you could, but Imagine if you don't need to look away, or even go as far as having the Headset highlight parts or wires to particular IO connections.

[@johnnylego807]

@@progtom7585agree.

[@justintime41776]

I would love to be able fix my car instead of paying thousands for repairs. I'm having some car problems right now.

[@NukeMarine]

Had a number of "made me smile" moments in Japan when I'd show off VR headsets to the elderly community. With them, it wasn't about games or talking to people. It was watching 3D 180 videos of festival events or fireworks which due to their age or physical limitations could not go to anymore. Another big demo were the underwater or aquarium style settings and there's this 92 year-old Japanese lady grabbing at small fish and smiling at how much enjoyment she's having. Yeah, it's basically the "teleportation". What I also see it, based on when I was an instructor in the US Navy, is overcoming the practical laboratory limitations most training schools have. If like the F1 car, I could bring in satellite communication equipment and get people training virtually up to a standard before spending precious time of in person practicals, that would be far more effective. Now extend that concept to labs for colleges.

[@inimmz]

my brother was 3 when covid hit so hed gained consciousness right when hed barely experienced the world and was only allowed to experience our home for the next 3 years. i had a vr headset so every day id bring it to him and play 360° videos of the world to him. we lived in a small town so i showed him big cities, amusement parks, festivals, train ride pov videos, etc. he was so fascinated and we kept talking about how once quarantine was over id show him everything in person. hes still very excited and im saving up to keep my word. i promised him an adventure to see everything he couldnt see and im gonna show him everything fun and exciting there is in this world

[@mikakettunen7939]

YES

[@southerncyan4098]

@@inimmz That's adorable, and I hope it all works out ❤

[@TheWefikus]

Yes, and also porn. Think how many people’s lives can be elevated if they can improve their otherwise nom existent intimate life for whatever reason.

[@ibrews]

@@inimmzyayyyy I love this

[@MminaMaclang]

My great fear is that being literally glued to a screen like that versus something you could easily walk away from may have effects on attention disorders, sleep, possibly risks for dementia/alzheimer's down the road, and we wouldn't really know anything about that until 50 years later when the bad things have already happened.

[@alien3200]

Idk why but people like you just can't accept the development in tech and will always want to find the bad side

[@jrbling25]

@@alien3200 Its a valid point, tecnophiliacs, perhaps like yourself, find any reason regardless of whether its good for you or not.

[@mikki_s1100]

@@alien3200because it’s important to think about the implications on our health and well-being from new tech. No one said we weren’t accepting it, just that maybe we need to proceed with caution for certain people

[@mikki_s1100]

Yes! I was thinking this as well

[@genephipps6421]

not to mention all the light sources and sensors less than an inch from your eyes.

[@carmatic]

as a bit of a scientist and engineer myself, I am intrigued by having the cameras and screens basically replace your regular eyesight what if these cameras not merely match our natural eyesight, but exceed them? the shortest conceptual leap would be a military night and thermal version of the Vision Pro , but what if you go beyond that ... imagine having a Mars Rover style spectrometer built into the front of the headset, the data it gathers would be integrated into the AR processing... in this mode, the world would be shown in greyscale, and objects get 'painted' with colours as they get scanned to represent what type of material is detected

[@pixelwash9707]

Many of the reviewers observe the relatively low resolution of the world facing cameras is the first shortcoming they are most aware of when they first start using it, when they compare that view to reality, but that they also get used to that low-res view.

[@thelouisjohnson]

My query is the touch element. You know, like how children need a high level of physical contact during the first six months or they’re developmentally compromised. Touch starvation is a thing and physical presence is something we often overlook. While we may have many more ways to connect to each other, we rarely end up regularly using them. Loneliness has only gotten worse over the last couple of decades. Casey Neistat’s video on the Vision Pro was also really great, but it was as terrifying as it was cool. As with most tech, the potential is awesome and theoretically limitless. But day-to-day use can often boil down to the lowest common denominator. I know how that’s a bit of a doomer take, but I don’t often see the fields of technology and positive psychology overlapping. Regardless, love the video Cleo! More great and thoughtful insights, I always look forward to seeing them.

[@Idefilms]

Brilliant comment - not to mention nuanced and constructive.

[@gordon.sarratt]

this is an important problem, and the only tech way I can think to solve it is haptics on a level and a scale we haven't really ever seen before, which probably won't be around for a hot minute. this is actually why in terms of digital teleportation I like the idea of advanced volumetric displays, like the holograms in star wars. theyd do the same communication job as a future vr headset, but i think they'd be a bit less immersive, which might actually help with this problem

[@Co-opSource]

This technology isn’t supposed to replace touch, instead it is to bring those who are far away just that much closer. The super power of this technology is to do things that are impossible, possible.

[@Factonise]

Elon musk's nueralink may accomplish that.

[@lvfreitas]

​@@Factonise all under proprietary tech with terms of use not always as clear as we might think or want them to be. Not to mention the DLCzation of this type of economy and SaS approach that will probably make such things quite innacessible

[@isaacsayolpiedra5563]

Technologists assume that more tech is the solution to the problems created by tech itself. The promise of social media was more connection, but we ended up feeling lonelier. Also, we can imagine a world with “digital teleportation” but not without soldiers. Will this tech be the exception? Huge fan of Cleo's, great content as always.

[@scottscottsdale7868]

Good question.

[@mirzaahmed6589]

Social media has definitely made me feel more connected, not lonelier.

[@chadyo99]

That's because social media was a step back in communication fidelity. It's mostly text based, it's not real time and a lot of it is communication with strangers or mild acquaintances. This tech feels like a huge leap forward in fidelity compared to previous forms of communication. Spatial audio, 3d presence, social cues, etc. You will want to use it with your friends and family for real time communication. The main barrier is that most of your friends and family don't have it right now.

[@sharksbean]

Technology isn’t the problem so much as the overwhelming majority of the human race being unable to pull our heads out of our collective asses and be responsible with power granted to us through this technology.

[@tiagomaqz]

I think this thought is very subject to the situation. I live far away from my family and the only way to connect is FaceTime and social media. So I’m thankful for it. That’s the case for a lot of people. Also I live in a big city and my friends don’t live that close so this technology helps a lot. I don’t think they live far away because of technology so technology was not the reason I feel lonely sometimes technically speaking.

[@Sadlander2]

I've been watching a TV show called Quantum Leap. It's about a guy who travels in time to change something that happened in the past. He gets help from someone who didn't travel with him but he can see this person as a hologram. It would be cool if you could do that! Like mentioned in this video, imagine you're at home, you get a call from a friend and instead of having a "normal" video call, you would see your friend sitting right next to you on your couch and your friend would see him/herself in your house, sitting on your couch. *_P.S. Isn't it funny how we can talk about having a "normal" video call, like it's nothing special but just a few years ago, if you'd tell someone about video calls, it would sound like total science fiction to that person!_*

[@Flamerion]

More then 20 years ago is not what I would call a few, but I get your point

[@Sinjinator]

I loved that show in the 1980s!

[@JaapvanderVelde]

This is mostly Cleo and Marques demonstrating major shortcomings of the current generation of Vision Pro, which shouldn't be too hard to fix: #1. replace the heads of others in your field of view that are also wearing a Vision Pro with their animated avatar, #2. allow two headsets to share the world state, with the same rendered environment, objects, windows, etc. - there'll be some limitations, but a lot could be done today, and #3. which will probably require far more capable hardware and clever rendering: send what Cleo's headset is recording to Marques' headset, and give him the option of seeing it from his position relative to hers (instead of through her eyes).

[@RadzPrower]

Yeah, as these type of devices become smaller and more discreet, I look forward to the day where you can opt-in on shared experiences on both a "friends list" and even a public level. It could make way for an interesting type of digital art, including graffiti style art without the issues of property damage (though I'm sure some property owner will find a way to complain about it all the same). It'd be really cool to be able to walk into somebody's house and see their digital photos as placed in 3D space within their house without actual picture frames or have settings where you can opt to have your own photos show up in set locations instead of theirs. You could have spouses digitally decorate to their individual tastes without requiring separate spaces or compromises. There is certainly also the risk of stuff like pop-ups but you cannot dismiss something entirely just because bad actors are going to misuse it.

[@bloop_official]

Cleo X MKBHD, always delivers!

[@Idefilms]

I love how often they're collaborating. Marques has expressed a greater interest in explainer-type content, and Cleo is top tier in that field. I think they're a great fit for each other and have phenomenal professional chemistry.

[@jonny2085]

These two are the greatest collaborators on youtube

[@bloop_official]

Agreed@@jonny2085

[@T-rexBreath]

The Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone of KZbin. Great professional relationship on-screen and sensibilities that naturally work with each other. They should just merge their KZbin channels and make one mega-channel

[@ryan-tabar]

Very likeable pair

[@yarieemoore3205]

0:55 props to the editor, that transition was super cool!

[@seheyt]

It only made sense to me by assuming that's the standard intro sequence. Otherwise, it just seemed like random scifi imagery that actually detracts from what the Vision Pro does bring

[@AlexanderBrown77]

🎺🌥️1 Thessalonians 4 kJV ✝️🩸 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. Ephesians 1 kJV 🩸 7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

[@Jim_Thomas_Draper]

This is a really interesting aspect of this that I hadn't considered, which is odd because I've had a lot of conversations in recent years about the use of tech in communicating with friends overseas. For example I have a friend who currently lives on the other side of an ocean, and for the last year or so we've chatted over video calls on a regular basis, as well as watched movies and TV shows together. But I noticed that at some point the terminology that we use stopped being "do you want a call later?" and evolved into "do you want to hang out later?". The technology is already good enough that to us it feels like spending time together, so it's fascinating to consider how that might improve over the next decade,

[@Yetr]

I'm really looking forward to the future of shared XR experiences. It has the potential to bring people closer together, despite physical distances, and create truly immersive and memorable moments. The possibilities are endless!

[@perge_music]

I remember back in the late 70s / early 80s where computers were the new thing and they were becoming inexpensive enough that you could have one at home. It was amazing, however what was obvious was that no-one really knew what they were going to be used for, the concepts of what could be done with a PC was quite limited (spreadsheets, word processors, organisers, maybe games), there were loads of interviews with the likes of Apple, Commodore, Atari, Acorn and the journalist is constantly asking 'this new kit is amazing but what's it for and the manufacturers didn't really know how they'd be used either, just that they were providing the hardware for people and for them to tell the world how it'll be used. I think with VP and similar it's a bit like that as how it's going to be used, why someone would want one, how it could end up being something that will become as indispensable as a smartphone has become is a journey that's yet to be mapped. Looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

[@txdave2]

Wow! What a well written, insightful, and thought provoking comment.

[@cmooreHD]

^ i came to say the same. This was beautiful. And I’m excited to see where this will take us as well.

[@seanedghill5025]

Back in the day their was a massive middle class to support such things. That's all gone now and that price will remain the same but the investors will still want their money.

[@lolowfi]

"quite limited (spreadsheets, word processors, organisers, maybe games)" Sounds useful, fun and not limited at all. The idea that neither manufacturers nor consumers knew what to do with them is frankly ridiculous. The PC market exploded almost immediately and everyone had or wanted one. Are you telling us all these people happily bought a PC but didn't know what to do with them?

[@perge_music]

@@lolowfi ooh look, someone wants to do internet battle. Go watch interviews with Apple, Commodore, Atari, Microsoft from about 1980, the reporters always ask the questions about 'what is the future, what are they going to enable us to do that we can't do already' you're clearly not as old as I am, seeing Pong was cutting edge, this is before Nintendo and Sega and the internet boom. Computers were seen as scientific/industrial/business machines, I'm not saying that they had no use at all it's that the scope of how they were to be used was not seen back then. Got look at the predictions of Arthur C Clarke where he speaks of everyone having computers for remote communication, the idea is pure sci-fi and out there. The concept of having a computer at home was seen a bit strange. But yes I got an 8-bit computer in the early 80s because I'd seen 2001 and they were this exciting thing, but I mostly ended up using a 'home' computer for making music but before MIDI and digital recording no-one seemed to have predicted that.

[@scothoser]

For a practical application, I think of technical training or other classroom experiences. Something I missed during the Pandemic was the ability to be in a classroom while teaching a class. My dream for this type of technology in the future is to have a “Jedi Council” moment where folks can be in a “class” and see everyone around them, even if they are at home. Imagine being able to attend a class from anywhere, and feel like you are in class with everyone else.

[@karak962]

that's such a good point!!

[@BrandoDrum]

You can literally do this with a Quest 2 for like $199.

[@joelface]

It's very, very possible. I think consumer-level volumetric video cameras are the key to truly enabling this.

[@riley1636]

And look like a little mii character while you're at it lol We need something better. @@BrandoDrum

[@kelbyray]

Yeah but it's so cartoonish. I tried the foreign language app on there and it just wasnt quite there. It'll get there. @BrandoDrum

[@randomperson-go1br]

I’ll say one thing, we are distracting ourselves from reality more and more every day…

[@estivel15]

Crazy how she thinks this device will connect us more as humans lol

[@lucasread1743]

@@estivel15ikr lol

[@jmilosho]

Look at reality today….you have to admit there’s more than enough horror/pain/suffering/madness out there to warrant many wanting to find these escapes. But yes, I agree with you and it’s sad.

[@MrMoogle]

The graph at 13:20 strangely makes me feel less lonely knowing I'm not alone in feeling the most alone I've ever felt in my 40s.

[@Sinjinator]

Hehe I’m so glad I’m not catching diseases.

[@TwistedMexi]

While it's exciting, the things like "if I could go back and see family in the headset" definitely feels like a plot for a black mirror episode or other dystopian scifi where people become shut-in, preferring to live in virtual "ideal" world.

[@Clara_Page]

Very ready player one... the book not the film

[@HealyHQ]

Reminds me of Fractale back in 2011.

[@Vysair]

that's basically now, people escape reality into being chronically online or video game as a NEET

[@TwistedMexi]

@@Vysair Yeah but if we're being honest this is going to be a step into making it worse, not better.

[@Robian_]

If the virtual world makes people happier then why not let them stay in it. That's their choice to make.

[@lecolintube]

14:14 “Technology has connected us, and yet studies show that we feel more isolated than ever. Can new technology help make that better?” This question feels like it contains the answer. However, thank you so much for the video Chloe, I appreciate your different approach to the Vision Pro’s applications & experiences.

[@PeterMcMullan01]

Imagine a family all sat it a room each with one of these on, watching there own content. Connected, no thanks.

[@Aabergm]

It's like traffic, we are building newer and better highways trying to solve a problem that we created. Technology is not a solution to technology induced problems. We need to solve induced problems by looking at how we used to do things before we created the problem and update how we behave to fit the solution not the other way around. Too many cars, make it easier to do things other than cars, not make cars easier. Not enough people time, provide more time to people, not more things to distract. Obviously both require personal discipline and unsurprisingly that's also something as a society we have seen a marked decline. Personal responsibility and self discipline, the more the world hands on a platter the less we care or try.

[@cardboardboification]

When I was a kid and the phone was on the wall, we all played outside … Today I don’t see one kid outside in the real world

[@surajvkothari]

That's why the release of this product has made me revisit digital detoxing. I get a feeling we are too addicted to tech and haven't built up ways to balance with the real world.

[@zoren1900]

​@@cardboardboification same I think my generation were the last game ones playing outdoors

[@user-mf9uv3pt7t]

That was an awesome video Cleo, and some great new tech. The possibilities for applications like remote surgical analysis or real time remote training or onsite specialist support is amazing and endless. But I want to point out the reality of humanity is that the more of something we have in our lives, the less value it has. If we begin to use it for personal communication, and as humans we tend to take the path of least resistance, we will lean on it more and more to reduce the energy we personally expend on one of the most important parts of the human world, physically spending time in the presence of the people we love. Part of the reward we feel in seeing people in person comes from the journey and effort taken to be with them or they have taken to see us. If your loved ones are just one headset away, then the more we feel like they are there, the less value we place on these interactions and the less likely you are to interact. Or to use your late grand father’s voice message as an example, how much do you value and work through the loss of loved ones and value the time you spent with them if their presence is always just a goggle click away for the rest of your life? You aren’t even using the effort of your own minds memory to relive them or the feelings that go with each memory and planting it in you mind but viewing it as an awkward 3rd person in a 3D video but you can’t interact with that loved one. To paraphrase your comments in the video, today we feel more alone and isolated from one another, yet your pocket contains the greatest number of instantaneous communication mediums we have ever known. Tech will always advance, mostly for our benefit, but maybe somethings in our lives should go backwards and values re adjusted and we should limit how some tech is used. We’ve seen the addictive traits that smart tech has and it’s in our pockets and ruining many peoples lives so tread wisely when your putting it just inches from your face.

[@user-mf9uv3pt7t]

Or to be more succinct, the more of something we have, the less likely we are to seek it out. It’s how human brains are wired. The more tech we have and the closer loved ones appear to your mind or the more access you have to communicate with loved ones, the less likely you are to seek time with them or find new people to fulfill the social needs we have as social creatures because you’ve used technology to trick your brain into thinking they are right there.

[@Aabergm]

Not sure if it's an Introvert or Autism thing but I feel like this tech is more useful to some than others,(meaning not me). I for one will happily converse in an email or text message instead of phone. I have never used video call in my life if you exclude video conferencing. I have no need to see a person to communicate nor the desire to be around them to feel connected. For context during the Covid lockdowns I spent a month and a half alone, at home by myself with groceries delivered and left in a box. It was honestly amazing; people are hard and having an excuse to not deal was amazing.

[@seth2390]

Just get used to it. Learn the social cues. Look people in the eyes. You can evolve to whoever you should be and not have your environment adapt to you.

[@vera_light]

@@seth2390I assume you would think of that, because extroverts are more that introverts in numbers, that is "social norm", but that doesn't mean introverts or like to be alone is a problem. Why not appreciate the differences, respect the existence, and try to manage for each others comfort? Maybe you are willing to "evolve" if someone else told you, you have a "problem", but that doesn't stand for others, at least for me. For me, I do not need a cure. At least for me, yes I can talk in person, yes I love my friends. Yet I still always prefer alone time, and I do not talk to strangers. (Yet I type to strangers, yes that is weird, but not wrong) Maybe you do not feel introverts, and maybe I do not feel extroverts. I will be whoever I want in my power and allowed situations. But thank you for your existence.

[@genephipps6421]

Not everyone can tell the difference between being alone and feeling lonely.

[@almostgodgamingval]

Well said ​@@vera_light

[@markgreen2170]

maybe, that's because you have an imagination ...only since covid did i realize, most people don't think, they do not have an interior dialogue:( ...funny, you juxtapose Introvert with Autism ...see how fast society wants you to 'wear' a label?' ...are you a 'product' of public education?

[@nomadMik]

'A future worth rooting for'… what a line to end with, given how much of your audience has been thinking that _rooting_ is exactly what we _won't_ be able to do with our far-away loved ones, with this tech, at any time in the foreseeable future! Just sight and sound are great for relatives and colleagues and platonic friends, and yes, I'm excited about that possibility. But I think it will just make us miss our more intimate connections even more.

[@Pulseczar1]

"Rooting" means something different to Americans than to Australians.

[@VadersFirst]

Imagine if this was not only a shared app experience like with the car (would be cool to be able to see what each other are seeing like it's the same car) but a shared ENVIRONMENT. Imagine you're walking downtown (hopefully with a smaller headset by then) and your friend calls. They "teleport" next to you as you walk. They are able to see you as you walk as if they were next to you in that moment. The cameras are able to pick up so much detail already, it wouldn't be that far off for them to use the sensor as well to make you feel like you're next to the "host". Or in someone's house, it would be awesome to feel like your friend is sitting on your couch and they can also see your house. Stuff like that would probably need some kind of 3D scan before to be able to walk around the house but it would be awesome.

[@TheBadFred]

Get some MDA, for the uber-experience, if you need.

[@VadersFirst]

@@TheBadFred Where tech falls short, hallucinogenics fill the gaps.

[@noonebeer]

This has been possible for years now with Meta’s Quest headset. It is unreal to be able to play ping pong with family hundreds of miles away. I’m sure AVP will have that app soon.

[@VadersFirst]

@@noonebeer I've never seen anything like what I'm mentioning. I'm not talking about going into a virtual space and having it feel like your friends are around you. I want something where your friends can be with you in your home but remotely and they can see it too. Just as if they are actually at your house.

[@noonebeer]

@@VadersFirst the closest thing would be AR games like Demeo which is a board game. When o reread your comment, you’re right: there is nothing that replicates your room, but everyone can hangout in a non-VR space

[@luklear]

Great take on teleportation. Also, please keep teaming up! Since being a YT influencer is what every kid dreams of now, your collab shows it’s all about lifting each other up, not just competing. Plus, your stuff makes people think, not just zone out like a lot of what’s out there. Keep it up, and show the world success means helping each other shine 🙌✨

[@heyspookyboogie644]

I have a feeling that until touch is added to the mix, being more and more connected is just going to drive the point home harder that someone ISNT really there.

[@reallemonboi7957]

i think that being able to move on from memories is also a part of life that we cannot lose. It's good to always remember a good time or a previous moment, without being so obsessed with it that we forget to move forwards.

[@thanhhai1312]

My argument would be no matter how this tech evolves, it could never replace the concept of spending time with your love ones, especially the intimacy and skin-to-skin contacts, sharing the same atmosphere, microbiome (remember we spit in each other faces everyday). It is significantly more complex than a virtual world could ever build. But by having this tech available, it will promote the idea of isolation, spending more time alone since you can see your love ones with a switch. I could really see Upload (Amazon TV series) becomes reality (not just when you are dead). And it's irreversible now.

[@patrickr4762]

💯. It’s not natural and feels artificial. A huge part of relationships is being there. This is a good device to bridge that but def. not to replace that. 17:01

[@seth2390]

Um, okay, how insightful, boomer

[@mikki_s1100]

I was thinking that as well. Will people instead try to replace actual interaction with this new technology, as we’ve seen with cellphones

[@thanhhai1312]

And what make you think we are boomer?@@seth2390

[@lucasread1743]

@@seth2390he’s being conservative not a “boomer” (tech hater) and you’re probably just and angry iPad kid.

[@idasein]

Cleo nailed it with teleportation. The future of this tech is making connection possible, even though it’s currently still isolating. I love how she highlighted the current limitations with an awkward conversation between two people with headsets on while imagining the possibility of having that conversation as if you were in person while being in other places. This video gets to the heart of what this tech is for like no other.

[@alien3200]

I am pretty sure this tech will develop surprisingly fast within the next 15years

[@vincedries7355]

What an amazing video! I'm a first year communication and media student, and so far we have focused mostly on the negative aspects of media/technology development. So when I heard about the Vision Pro I got a bit scared about how it could drastically change our lives, but after watching this video and seeing what it can do I am more than excited for this to happen. I see all kinds of possibilities in education, technical work, safety, socializing, psychology and so much more, and I can't wait to see how the Vision Pro evolves. If we're able to use this the right way, it can definitely improve our world

[@lucasread1743]

As long as it doesn’t fully eliminate reality from our lives

[@GeneralKazar]

It is almost sad that people are talking like this today as if we are looking at something new, that only now we are seeing a possible future. I remember having the exact same conversation with people when I first got my HTC Vive. The Apple Vision Pro is at best an incremental step forward, but given the cost, it doesn't even seem like a step forward, just a more expensive version of the existing step.

[@ESSBrew]

It is 100% just a nicer version of the existing tech, and the cost reflects that. VR is just not practical for everyday use. Unless it brings something more to the table than a normal device, there is no point to spend more money.

[@cronoklee_]

Same as the iPhone was in 2007. Nothing remotely new but a huge milestone in public understanding and acceptance of the tech.

[@nigelhsenior]

Agreed, no fan of Zuck but Meta have been the goal post movers here :)

[@lucasread1743]

@@ESSBrewexactly!

[@ArlenKundert]

As an XR and Metaverse enthusiast, it was cool to see two people who are science/tech KZbinrs cover XR, but aren’t inside the XR community information bubble. That said, I’m curious what Marques and Cleo would think of being taken on a full deep dive into the existing Metaverse(s) landscape(s), especially VRChat. Maybe a deep dive interview with VR KZbinr couple ThrillSeeker, and his girlfriend Phia of The Virtual Reality Show, or maybe Shane and Orla Harris, founders of SideQuest and Banter. 🧐

[@busterscrugs]

i think this headset might finally make VR go mainstream. not because it's good, but because it's an expensive Apple product that people will buy purely as a status symbol.

[@erickespinosa8240]

AMAZING video! These really do keep getting better and I love how different this angle is to most other Vision Pro content. I usually would have been uncomfortable with ignoring the price because progress doesn't happen in a vacuum so why would you not take the economics into account? BUT, the cool (and scary) part about thinking about the future of technology is that we don't know how it's going to evolve AND we also don't know what we're going to care about and what are we going to consider cheap or expensive.

[@ViniciusAmano]

it was so refreshing to hear a human point of view on this tech. Nobody talked about this before and I love to imagine this future too. You are amazing Cleo. Congrats!

[@jonathankittrell170]

This is the first take I've seen that's not just speculating on how this tech could be used but also explaining why it matters on a human level. Nicely done.

[@soikatmaji4685]

Eye Health: "bye guys 👀"

[@Lord_LindaThePhilosopher]

Vr has actually shown to improve hand eye coordination. Also screens don't hurt your eyes PERIOD. you sounds like an 80 year old. "Don't sit too close to the TV it will make you go blind"

[@howto1976]

is there any settings or feature where a browser or something sticks on an item in your surroundings so when u move the item physically the browser also moves?

[@johanavril1691]

cant belive she didnt even mention what people are already doing in vrchat and resonite apart from that great video

[@Clara_Page]

Why what are People doing in those apps? 😏

[@johanavril1691]

@@Clara_Page a bunch of things really 😏 But more seriously in the video it seams like she talks a lot about doing social things in vr with people far away or just easier or more conviently. And well a lot of people are already doing this in vr social platforms and even more too... (😏)

[@Rose_in_Blue]

"Metaverse" has always felt like "We're desperately trying to reinvent VRChat, but with higher budget and less community contribution (ie. more corporate)."

[@gidnoot3140]

VRchat is too far away from reality. She’s talking about a better version of video calls so you need photorealistic avatars instead of cartoonish avatars

[@johanavril1691]

@@gidnoot3140 yeeeeaah but nooo, I mean it just seams to me like she is comparing video calls to reality and saying that vr could become really close in terms of the feelings you get when you are really with other people. Realistic avatars would certainly aid in that, but from experience I would say the more "cartoonish" avatars already do a great job of giving a sens of presence to other people. What I would say though is that the lack of expressions that the avatars have without face tracking and also how inaccessible body tracking is, is a real obstacle to that ideal.

[@GuzForster]

I am earger to try one of these just to feel how much better it is than the Quest 3. Because almost of the stuff showcased here, the Quest 3 has. Pinning things in your real space with MR, hand tracking that is not perfect but pretty good, etc. Also, how much better the eye tracking is from the PSVR2, which is impressive also.

[@kristmadsen]

What is this "jiggle" they keep talking about? I have a rift s and never noticed it. Does the quest tracking not work so good?

[@orezgeri]

This will come super fast. Now… normal facetime is more realistic because the scan from the vision pro is middle quality. But soon, u can do a full body scan in the next apple store and u can spend time together in the immersive backgrounds. That will go pretty fast, and thats insane. Because the vision pro is ready for it, we can see it at the models of the cars, dinosaurs etc.

[@youtubersdigest]

I’m not sure if it was on purpose but that intro right after you said huge if true looked like a blue version of entering the oasis from ready player one.

[@tiagomaqz]

My family lives in a different state and since I live in a big city, most of my friends live far too. Technology wasn’t the reason they’re far so it does help to have technology to connect us and shorten our physical distance. And boy it helps when you’re feeling lonely. To be able to see someone on FaceTime and live talk to them sometimes feels magical knowing how far they are. A digital hologram would be AWESOME! I could only dream of talking to my mom and seeing her as a hologram right next to me.

[@jsayol]

So happy with these collabs between Marques and Cleo! Two creators I respect and whose work I really enjoy watching. Keep 'em coming whenever it makes sense, please and thank you.

[@axeldreyer8972]

@mkbhd when talking to cleo you don't sound the way like when you are talking to other youtubers but like you genuinely appreciate this friendship.

[@CJBTYT]

Apple should straight up pay Cleo and Marques for this. They both did a way better job in explaining and advertising the potential of Vision pro than apple itself. Or, may be they are…

[@Kefuddle]

"The ability to jump to any place and bring people with you" VR Chat enters the, errm, chat.

[@KarlBunker]

😀👍

[@smallbutdeadly931]

Always funny yet sad whenever Apple releases something that has been available on the market for years and people see it as a whole new thing that hasn't been done before. Especially when it costs so much more than alternatives.

[@jensenraylight8011]

With Apple Vision Pro, now everyone can become a Starfield NPC

[@southerncyan4098]

@@mezzb I've used a few VR devices (index, quest) and imo, gesture control would be far more intuitive and LESS awkward than controller based input. Now, the fidelity and touch-sense between the two is not comparable, and that is a more significant difference in the discussion. However, an integrated concept like haptic gloves? That may be a compromise in the future for controller input. What do you think?

[@lecolintube]

12:00 Kudos to the camera man who filmed you and Marques from ‘outside’ the headset. (His perspective of this whole event would have been pretty wild).

[@user-dk1bv9ck1p]

1. need to be able to see clear and super sharp the room at deam light 2. need to be sharp from edge to edge and not just where you focus at. 3. need to be slim like RudyProject / Oakley sunglasses 4. Need to be safe for eyes since lcd is 1 cm from the eye . Macular degeneration. 5. Needs to be able to localize screans all over the world ( city at any country) from home and from a trip .Once you go there again or for the first time screens are already waiting for you at specific locations. 6. Can block UV. 7. Can see clear at night like with night vision googles. 8. Have very long battery life. I think it is going there and will replace T.V and Computers and smartphones .

[@rob-toolsandtech2521]

Yeah, I could totally see this as a possibility. I think nice uses will come up along the way. I think many people will be using it in their jobs. Imagine a world renowned specialist surgeon being able to guide a doctor in a remote village through a surgery. Firefighters using an adapted version to help them see through dense smoke and find people. This could create a whole new career category of professionals teaching people how to do thing. Imagine a plumber teaching you how to do something in your own home, or a mechanic teaching you how to do a repair on your own car they are in a remote location, and can still guide you step by step. How about virtual field trips for schools. As the tech gets better, and the price gets more attainable, more and more of these use cases will be discovered.

[@IgnacioAlencar]

im sorr y, but the features are all in meta quest 3 i have been using vr headsets since the quest beta, and yes i have e vision pro that i am seling because is not worth it for the price, yes for cosuming media is better bet not in tha scale that justify it.

[@jensenraylight8011]

how kind of Apple doing an Advertisement for Meta Quest 3, complete with all of the Demonstration of what Meta Quest 3 could do

[@Clara_Page]

@@jensenraylight8011 My thoughts entirely, sure the vission pro can do most of those things better buuuuttt.... not 5x the cost better

[@sp123]

Right, too much technology is created to be better consumers, instead of improve our lives

[@jcabassi]

You could just return it for a refund at this point.

[@ropro9817]

I love that Cleo reminds me that technology doesn't necessarily mean a dystopian future. Love her optimism. ❤

[@bwillan]

The problem is that people are people with all of their human traits. Both good and bad. So looking at everything with rose colour glasses and optimistically only borders a bit on naive.

[@Lord_LindaThePhilosopher]

​@@bwillanbut it's not naive at all people have a negativity bias. So we need to push optimism as it's not only justified but is required to have a better brighter future. I think it's arrogant to see the world in a negative light.

[@user-xf5qh2vl6d]

The potential for this tech is truly exciting. I was in hospital the other day & it got me thinking about it’s potential in medicine - could you imagine a patient laying on a bed & the nurse or doctor has their chart & vitals floating above them, or a hologram of an ultrasound or X ray over them in real time (plus not touching things physically to minimise germs).

[@marcussky]

Best reporting on Apple Vision Pro I've seen this month! Well done Cleo and the team.

[@tinkerduck1373]

Finally somebody who understands the potential of mixed reality! I always get the impression that critics live in the same village for their entire life. My friends and relatives are 100s and partially 1000s of miles away. Being able to spend more time together would be awesome! I already do this using Quest3, but there's still so much to achieve!

[@richardwopara]

We need 3 things for this you be fully accepted. 1. Popular Music video with it 2. Robert Downey jr wearing it 3. It in a regular movie

[@MichaelBrady-wl6tk]

I can imagine using this tech to walk around in a house of one of my ancestors, along with living relatives, listening to audio from those deceased ancestors. Connecting generations could be powerful.

[@pepe38]

Cleo, I love how optimistic you are about this technology. As a casual gamer I never saw it being more than just playing games with a headset. Thank you for sharing your perspective!

[@talebit]

So true! That vision of "teleportation" will actually create shared experiences and bring people together, family, friends. Love that ❤️

[@Idefilms]

The visual device of running a personas-based Facetime while you're in the room with the person was BRILLIANT. Another great one, Cleo + crew!

[@berrysfn]

My take after watching this amazing video (good job btw). I would love to be able open a picture in your vision pro and it just immerse you can make you live inside of the picture. I know she touched on that and said the same thing but i was saying i would to be able to go back be able see my dog that pasted away to cancer. i would to be able just sit next her more time, "pet" her one more time. I would to be able just feel like she's around again. sorry i went so deep i just really miss her. and i would spend $4,000 in a heart to be able to experience that.

[@megascott424]

Love this take on it. And, to Marques's point about Apple wanting to improve Personas quickly, the night this video goes live, Apple releases a new visionOS beta that improves the look of Personas. I can't wait to see the progress over the next couple of years.

[@veqv]

Video calls have been around for quite a while, and I have to admit - even through the pandemic I've been on a video call maybe a handful of times. I'm not some dinosaur, and tend to embrace tech but it's super interesting to me to hear that something I find clunky, a bit annoying and superfluous is so lauded. I have never met a person (I'm in my early 30's) who insists or even brings up video calling. Is this because most of my friends and family use android? I absolutely can get behind the ideas but it feels very specific to a kind of lifestyle and not a universal desire or need.

[@skeksis268]

It’s because - and I was not happy to find this out because it’s not an option for most corporate meetings - FaceTime is ridiculously good compared to all the competition. I’ve had good quality FaceTime calls on connections where other options couldn’t quite get the audio to even work.

[@helloimedden]

This is a great point and shows how far away most of these 10yr old tech reviewers are from the general public opinion and how they would use any tech! I worked at Apple when FaceTime launched and for years after, you are so right. We had phones on the table and we would FaceTime the other phones. People never cared or wanted to alone. We would have to explain it and then get them excited maybe and then show it and still it was cool to them but not really something others had or did so they didn’t end up using it main stream. For YEARS!! And yah that was like 10 yrs almost and still took till the pandemic and still it’s zoom not even FaceTime that blew up. I think tech reviewers should be going out and talking to people… random people they don’t know that arnt tech people… like an employee at a store does. Cause if ur going to keep talking about the general public’s opinion like this maybe ask them. Here she mentioned grandparents and soldiers connecting more. Then says “I want to be connected more”. She isn’t defining connected based on how others want it or what makes people feel connected. There’s no universal standard for feeling connection or we would have a solved loneliness long ago.

[@RolandSharp]

I know people who video chat on Google Meet all day since covid. They now have friends all over the world and speak to ten of them at once. This is now their main thing in life

[@tejasrsingh]

i cant even say how bizarre this is. I wish this inevitable future isnt the future.

[@grantmataicross8825]

Curious if you can try using the iPad app Duet display in vision OS to use it to get a second display with your MacBook

[@Frinzone]

Watched mkbhd's review and i was amazed. Watching your's was beyond complimentary. You provided perspectives and insights that was not covered technically anywhere else. Great! And thank you!

[@kantahanwithkahel]

I love how pure Cleo’s heart is, that the first and most important thing this tech for her is connecting more with people she loves. My first instinct is that this will isolate us even more, but she went the complete opposite way, which gave me hope.

[@utkarshmishra3066]

who are we hoping from? this is our technology to build, and we must make it so!

[@erniea5843]

You’re such an easy sell!

[@DanKeeleyMusic]

As great as this seems, I feel like there isn't enough credit given to the Oculus/Quest devices. I feel like, even though they were huge and clunky and the graphics aren't great, they really broke the ground on this tech so Apple could come along and improve it.

[@Dante-fk4yi]

I respect that

[@user-bz7qg5xw6h]

I mean. woohoo participation trophy. lol. I actively hate apple, love my headset though. They did what others couldn't.

[@Dante-fk4yi]

@@user-bz7qg5xw6h jealous not ! Always thrive for the best, that is the beauty of living

[@rayrippey8095]

I was in Alt Space for several months on my quest 2. While we were just all cartoons with movable hands and heads, there were real connections made. Memories of being a stand up comedian in front of other real people in real time or karaoke or dancing. I got to try things I'd never done in real life. I went to meetings and met groups of people and strangers. Everything was very respectful because it was real time and those were real people you were communicating with. Real memories. Real connectivity.

[@macIain]

It's funny how Meta has been doing all this already with the Meta Quest headset. Then Apple makes one and it all kicks off 😄

[@pranavsahay467]

@cleo this ^ !

[@tredogzs]

You dont wear a META all day and see the world as completely NORMAL through the view of a 100 fake computer generated image. NO... no... the META doesnt do anything close to this. It is NOT a VR headset. This is the 100% clear vision of the real world through the 1000% fake processed composition of a computer. You can literally get inbetween someones visual reality and edit it in REAL TIME. Apple has headset patents from 2007... they have been working on this longer than facebook. They spent more on this product then probably what facebook is worth. You dont understand what is happening.... you can LITERALLY BECOME A CYBORG!!!! and you can look amazingly awesome doing it!

[@UR2EZ2SVEN]

@@tredogzs 100% clear vision you say? Wow thats impressive. What if I... used my eyeballs tho...

[@tavishchaudhary009]

For every like i get, im going to do 5 push - ups

[@Eeve3_Lord]

I'll do them with you.

[@ghostshovel8755]

Me too

[@impushprajyadav]

No cheating..

[@chanakya6735]

Lol 🤣 New way of begging

[@shaider1982]

Cool, you'll be extra ripped after this.

[@PhillipParr]

15:32 The thing about the first gen iPhone is that it was a phone. Yes it was very innovative, but it was a similar size, shape, and cost as other devices in use at the time - it wasn't a new form factor, it didn't have a new use case. Within a decade almost every phone looked the same. And whilst VR / AR may well be part of our future, it's not going to explode in this way until it's the right price, but more importantly it solves a genuine day to day problem. Right now AR with the right software could be useful in a professional environment, but in the day to day? The tech would pretty much have to be a solid Star Trek holodeck experience before the masses came to it.

[@southerncyan4098]

I agree and I think that Apple's concept with the Eyesight is an important first step of normalization with this technology

[@mindwolf80]

The iPhone was a "yes and" device. It was a phone, but also, you could do X Y Z on it in such a way that it became a wider piece of tech. These headsets aren't building on anything, and will struggle for adoption. I don't see anything here that excites me about getting one, and don't really expect to ever get a wearable.

[@PhillipParr]

@@mindwolf80 I feel this is the sort of thing that's only going to take off properly when it sneaks into every day life. When it can be built into normal corrective glasses for example. I'd go for a HUD on my eyesight.

[@icedgems]

Seeing how far technology is advancing in regards to helping us feel connected is exciting, that's for sure. I'm excited to see where it will go, and you really showed me what new potentials may be in store for us in the future. It does kind of scare me, though. Because after all is said and done, after you have that call with your mother or sister or a loved one, whether it's a normal phone call or a video call...you still have to hang up. It doesn't change the reality of your situation. I personally believe that's where the feeling of loneliness comes from. We can have all the calls we want, for however long we want, but at some point, we still have to face the silence that comes when we turn away from the screen or hang up. Technology can get close...but I'm not sure it can replicate the feeling we get when we see our loved ones, face to face. I think there's a lot more that goes on beneath the surface when you see someone in person than just seeing them physically and hearing their voice... it's part of what makes us truly unique and special as humans; part of why social interaction and connection is so important for us. But all that aside, I do wonder just how far technology can go :)

[@etiennemt.fevrier]

The primary thing that I want to get out of this kind of tech is exactly what you stated a couple of times in this video. I want to be able to sit down in a French café with my wife and daughters, and the Eiffel Tower in the background, and catch up on things on a Sunday morning. This kind of tech will make that happen. Yes, I will make an effort to see them on a regular basis, but this kind of tech can get you that close more often. Like you guys said, you could meet on the moon, or Mars, or go up the Eiffel Tower. For me, this is very exciting tech.

[@adamredwine774]

The teleportation angle is exactly correct and I’m surprised how few people get that. Imagine a VR camera on top of the Eiffel Tower or in a sushi restaurant in downtown Tokyo. People would absolutely pay a few bucks to virtually visit a place.

[@MicMaine]

Quest 3 does this now and has a Map app that you can literally travel the world in real-time and go to special places where there is live cams

[@adamredwine774]

@@MicMaine It's super cool and I really think this is close to the "killer app" for VR. That Apple is jumping into the space is very encouraging for the future of the tech.

[@MicMaine]

@@adamredwine774 Apple loves to be late to the party just to try and take all the credit for the good turnout 😅

[@adamredwine774]

@@MicMaine Oh I completely agree. I have hated Apple for years and sworn that I would never buy their products. That being said, I'm not blind nor so foolish as to think that my view is the dominant one. My wife is an Apple devotee and loves to buy their stuff. I'm an engineer and work with computer hardware for a living; my wife couldn't name a single programming language. I am not in the majority.

[@LilRedRasta]

Especially once they livestream places. There's cameras on youtube where you can watch tokyo in real time. Now, imagine a similar camera but its in full 3d. You could travel to places without needing to fly. And if you want to walk around, maybe they can figure out how to make robots with cameras on them. You could control them remotely. That would open up a huge can of worms where people could rent robots and do errands from home.

[@culer2398]

It's funny that despite seeing that tech has indeed isolated us from each other, instead of trying to find other solutions we are throwing the kitchen sink at tech to solve the problems it created. It's like that quote which says insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting different results. At this rate we're gonna reach a point where we will be interacting with someone through their 3D model while that person is sleeping or doing something else. And for some reason we will consider that as an improvement over the current situation. It's not like we already barely pay any attention during video calls.

[@jensenraylight8011]

Today, we've to use QR code just to see the menu, In the Future, we've to wear Vision Pro, so that the Virtual Game NPC Waiter could write our order.

[@merrymachiavelli2041]

But we're not trying to find solutions. There isn't really a 'we' - if technology is enjoyable/has some utility, people will to use it. There isn't really a mechanism for society to 'solve' individuals being isolated from each other, aside than governments banning things, and few people people would support governments banning anything that might make somebody lonely.

[@KarthikSuvanV]

I have been watching your videos for some time now, and i just get so excited when a new video comes out. This is my favourite channel and thank you so much for the amazing content.❤❤❤

[@Muk1R1]

Awesome colab with Marques, looking forward to more. Just subscribed 👍🏿

[@MicMaine]

Quest 3 can have people in the same room as each other, and you can see their full body move and interact with augmented items in front of you.

[@harzreise]

Oh does it matter? Quest 3 wasn't made by apple, I would even say that VR/AR was invented with vision pro, nothing has existed before wink-wink

[@unkown34x33]

Yeah I know! I'm getting quest 3. But the media... Doesn't care about it :/

[@zedexgamers9388]

​@@harzreiseit matters, but not for insects like you

[@k.vn.k]

Quest 3 pass through has big problem: parallax effect. Everything is either too big or too small. Also very noisy. VP has no parallax effect, it’s so clear even things up close.

[@Omar-kl3xp]

You can do that on the Vision Pro as well but for that particular app they haven’t used that feature,but it is provided by Apple for developers to use that feature

[@zahanmalkani]

Back in 2018, the mission of Oculus was"Defy Distance" -- I always thought that was prescient and liked it.

[@joelface]

Premise: It's Christmas morning. In the living room, next to the tree you set up 3 tripods, each holding a type of ball-shaped volumetric camera. These record the scene from multiple perspectives. With a little processing, they create fully immersive videos that you can walk around inside of, wearing a vision pro or other headset. The sounds are also volumetric, so you can close your eyes and HEAR where the different sounds are coming from, and as you walk up to someone their voice gets louder and clearer. It's VERY possible that this will be the kind of set up that enables extremely immersive videos. These same "volumetric cameras" can be used to live-render your "avatar" in 3D space during conversations/video calls, and to further improve the fidelity of the "spatial" experience inside a headset. I HOPE Apple and others are thinking about memory-capture in this way. OH, and films and TV shows could also be filmed in volumetric space using this same method.

[@tredogzs]

This is already done... and they have 3D spacial video NOW. Why does she keep saying version 10???? This thing has been in development for OVER 16 years!!!!!! This is already version 2393 !!!!! What is she going on about?!?!?!? That she hasnt seen a computer display a 3d human model in real time??? uhhhhh almost every video game has this while doing 1000 other models and 10,000 other environments. Very confusing that she doesnt REALIZE the tech is in here hands NOW, that there is NO need for a future version. The billions of dollars have been spent... the DECADES have pasts... THIS IS IT, HERE, NOW!!!! Go program some C++ .... geeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[@tredogzs]

I wish it could transport you places.... AS SHE IS ON THE TOP OF A MOUNTAIN WATCHING A 3D MOVIE?????? I wish it could bring my grandma to me.... AS SHE SEES A DINOSAUR ENTER THE ROOM???????? ....... I guess we need version 10????!! ! !! !! ! ! WHAT IS SHE CRYING ABOUT!!!!! GO GET SOME C++ CLASSES!!!!! IF YOU HAVE THIS GREAT IDEA!!!!!!!! YOUR iPhone 15 has a lidar and can make 3D models of people and you can make the APP you want NOW!!!! RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!! IS THAT NOT THE MOST OBVIOUS THING TO EVERYONE!?!??!!? like...... (@#%(@#*% @#(*%& @#(%*&@#($*@#&$ @#%(*@#&%(@

[@matthewjoscott]

We are all here for the collabs of Marques and Cleo. They are each some of the best at what they do. Like hearing a duet of the best cellist and the best violinist. You still want to hear their solo work all day long AND you look forward to the next duet.

[@edes421]

As someone who has lived in VR for 4 years now, It is teleportation, and it's really nice to see other people begin to understand that's not just the potential but the reality a lot of people currently live everyday. VR, AR, XR, what ever you call it, is not a gaming platform, or a productivity platform, its a social and a networking platform. I get to see my partner everyday and cuddle on virtual couches as we watch our favorite movies side by side, sneaking her little kisses on the neck that of course she can't feel, but she hears and sees the intention, and it translates really well. I recently met up IRL with my VR friend group who i see every night and have known for years. We kept on remarking on how much its the same to seeing each other in VR. And although those hugs goodbye were hard, they also wernt hard, because I was going to see them the next day. All my friends dancing together in virtual clubs, standing in a circle, drinking, except on friend is on the west coast, another on the east, one in germany, another in japan, one in australia. We don't feel that distance so much, because we are with each other all of the time. So our hugs wern't so much goodbyes, but see you tomorrows

[@edes421]

Gosh Cleo watching you speak about teleportation to visit loved ones and skewing the curve, I would love to see you step into social VR, good guided social VR to see that this idea and reality you dream for exists today, and of course we have a long way to go before we reach photo real, but there is magic as well in letting people be cartoons and anime characters and embody a form that transcends the body given to them. It feels wild to see you dream of this, while simultaneously, I'm living that. I found love through VR, 2 years into an overseas relationship, and we see and visit each other irl, and although VR is not a replacement for being physically together, it does turn goodbyes at the airport into see ya tomorrows

[@leitherr]

probably the saddest thing ive read all day.

[@edes421]

@@leitherr to each their own, im thriving

[@leitherr]

@@edes421 in regards to the first part, not so much the last ones.

[@a846810]

You sound like a 14 year old. There is more to life than VR and friends, drinking and going to clubs.

[@Richster-tt7vg]

Oh definitely once this tech takes off they’re gonna sell us “vip experiences”, first row at a sport game, first row at your favorite singer/group concert, walkthrough famous museums, national parks, etc. And even maybe live transmissions of big events.

[@FlyiDCG]

Thats where the tech & industry should go. Use this tech to take people places for a fair price. TicketMaster would do well with this sort of tech & it would be less work & probably more money for the performer. Why do a 40 city tour when you can do 10 shows with VR tickets. Instead of 20,000 fans a night, 200,000 fans could watch globally & attend multiple shows.

[@swiftrealm]

@@FlyiDCG That sounds dystopian as hell. The whole point about tours is the live aspect, being in the same room as the performer. That's why people pay big money for the experience. You don't get that with VR, it's just an illusion.

[@FlyiDCG]

@@swiftrealm Cool, no VR for me then.

[@konrad1916]

For I handed on to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures; that he was buried; that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures 1 Corinthians 15:3

[@robinv1485]

Mhh this has been a thing since the quest 1 released btw altho they always have a ton of free ones too.

[@ProtouchCarCare]

I was discussing Vision Pro with someone today and I used the word teleportation and here I see it mentioned!

[@KensaiProductions]

Imagine if you could combine that recording of your grandfather and scan in some photos of him to create an object/avatar and be able to see him speaking to you. Wow.

[@yozhis1]

the only people that are talking about this as future - isn't the IT sector players, but investors and influencers.. i can't imagine why!?

[@omarspost]

Think I'll wait for version 2 or 3

[@ForestRaptor]

where they up the price by that amount? :P

[@arc-audio]

@@ForestRaptor the iPhone 3G was 60% cheaper than the first gen

[@Nighthunt01]

@@arc-audio damn iPhone 3G you have to reach back to 2008 thats 15 years ago lol

[@rcbeetle]

Nothing can replace the feeling of being rigth next to the person you love. It's real. Live real life. Do not die trying to replace it.

[@davidm73]

Hey Cleo! Quick question. Glasses aid worn out or less better vision. But could glasses be modified and used to not just correct but also improve vision?

[@benluna1474]

I really love the optimistic hope for connection, but for all the tech that supports us right now, we’re lonelier than ever. Is even more technology the solution?

[@jfrydom]

No but when you feel lonely from this new tech they'll invented something new to sell you that promises to help loneliness. The cycle continues.

[@tw8464]

Exactly

[@tw8464]

Something else important to realize is who is in the "room" with you and your mom. It's not the same as your mom physical at your house. The corporations make themselves the "only" medium or "platform" for every interaction. That isn't exactly "benign."

[@BurningBroadcast]

Precisely this. What humans crave is less technology, less online, not more. We are solving problems we created ourselves.

[@tw8464]

@@BurningBroadcast exactly

[@sonalfernando2342]

I agree but I don't think this replace smart phones but definitely open whole new demention, imagine we can be in live events, experience new product launches and much more

[@arc-audio]

When I demo’d the Vision Pro, the live sports videos they showed really impressed me, I could see that being a big pull for fans if it’s eventually accessible

[@Chris-ng8du]

I think a lot of people are more focused on the "spacial computing" part of this device and aren't focused on the virtual connection part of this device. A lot of people see this and think of the Tony Stark glasses and compare it to the iPhone, but when I see this device and think of those glasses I see the Newton, not the iPhone. We have a LONG way to go before you can put glasses on and have virtual computers floating around. But, when I see the people talking to each other in a room with digital avatars, I think that is a very real possibility that is not that far out. It's a possibility that I think is appealing and that people will want to invest in. I would not be surprised if in just a mere 5-7 years that a lot of people will be connecting that way.

[@Swole_Gecko]

"this is supposed to be the next big step" Ya cuz we totally just forgot all the other headsets that got us to this point for the last 9 years... The clasic Apple Effect.😂

[@stephenchris_yt]

13:11 "I want a device that connect me more [...] not isolate me. At 10:19 , Marques and you weren't able to interact with the same object. You and he were seeing two different cars. You were "isolated" despite being just centimeters apart. That's a big problem. Teleportation is great. Being able to connect with people on the other side of the planet would be great, but i think that Apple should first work on shared experiences with people close by. If two VisionPro wearer in the same room could interact with the same AR elements, it would be huge!

[@ChristopheHanne]

Apparently it's already possible technically. It's documented in the Apple docs. The formula 1 thing is not using the "sharing" feature yet. Give devs a couple of weeks/months.

[@fortozaver2837]

Just ordered it on Aliexpress, so exited for apel visio pro!

[@videos-online8752]

😅

[@lifetofullest9380]

🤣

[@theepanbalas]

Now that's the real shit bro

[@highlander7]

Cleo, you manage to give a huge amount of info quickly, you are fast not hurried, excellent.

[@seymaple]

I feel like the title easily could of been "Care about VR/AR". Besides the eye/hand tracking and better resolution everything here applies to the other headsets which do more things and some of the same much better. Either way it's cool to see the vision pro getting more ppl interested in VR.