Apple Vision Pro vs Meta Quest 3 - The In-Depth Comparison.

[@Tyrielwood]

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[@riba2233]

Temu as a sponsor? Bro I thought you knew better than that, please stop supporting them right away and delete this sponsored segment from the video, that is the least you can do if you respect your subscribers.

[@LinusDropTips]

No thanks

[@Narwhal12]

nah

[@zenobikraweznick]

Temu, thanks , but no thanks.

[@nezzntg]

Oh dear temu, the video isn't getting watched now or any future content

[@vfragos]

@Tyrielwood The Quest 3 resolution is 25 PPD not 18. 18 PPD is the resolution of the RGB cameras. I didn't expect such a mistake from you.

[@vrambassador]

he is fanboy addicted, he can excuse this absolute crap video with an official one, or i will never follow again. as total respected member of the vr community he absolutely messed it up with this video!

[@stefanschuchardt5734]

​@@vrambassador easy cowboy

[@GenghisGaming]

If you take the average it might be true, 25 would likely be for the center part of the vision where the lenses cause more density to be at, he also got the vision pro pixel density lower in the same sense since 34ppd is the average across the whole, if you count the center area its more like 45ish ppd on the vision pro

[@vfragos]

@GenghisGaming what average, there is no more density on the center on Quest 3. The ppd on both headsets is 25 and 34. Maybe on vision pro is only 34 on center and at the periphery actually lower because of the eye tracking and the foved rendering it does.

[@coolertuep]

The benchmark numbers are also very wrong. The AVP is not 4x as strong lol. The Snapdragon 8 gen 2 achieves 2000 points singlecore and 5000 points multicore (xr2 gen 2 is based on that). Sideloading geekbench on a quest 3 is likely not giving accurate results, especisally compared to an iPad. So the AVP is about ~50% stronger, not 300% lol.

[@AprilPvd]

You left out one of the big features of the quest and that’s the ability to socialize. I spend anywhere from 3 to 7 hours in game with people and you can’t do that with the AVP.

[@alligatorgamer9137]

Brother. Please never take another sponsorship from Temu again 😭

[@vrambassador]

my words too.

[@nezzntg]

Totally agree 👍

[@DJeb86]

Typical idiots from the ouest who thinks that they re angle while east are evil…lol.

[@adeldeutsch3901]

Why not ? I love Temu . They have very cool stuff for a lower price

[@BigSunn0]

@@adeldeutsch3901 they’re chinese. Good old fashioned racism

[@NotAVtuberPinkyPromise]

Quest 3 absolutely deserves the audio point for actually having a headphone jack. Bluetooth audio is just too laggy for vr.

[@GenghisGaming]

Just gotta make sure you have apples latest airpods pro for low latency wireless, ecosystem life

[@jjjurgensen454]

@@GenghisGaming that’s not an accident lol

[@nagyFerko]

Latency is bad with the quest. I can easily use my AirPods Pro gen 2 connected to my pc when playing pcvr. But used with the quest there is like a 1 second delay. Every quest had terrible Bluetooth audio latency somehow.

[@kuko61]

On Quest 3 you can also use earphones with dongle, for example Soundcore VR P10, which have no latency.

[@nagyFerko]

@@kuko61 that doesn’t make it okay, that every quest had high audio latency over Bluetooth. The fact that it needs another device to use it with Bluetooth headphones are a negative point

[@LARVideos]

Build Quality: Sometimes I don't think people understand what this means. In almost all the Vision pro vs Quest comparisons I've seen, it seems reviewers tend to think that build quality = "expensive feeling", which isn't the case. It's how well it's built for durability and the tasks it's meant to do. Quest wins this hands down. It's way more durable and will not fall apart easily... unlike the Vision Pro. It's made of the WORST materials for what it's supposed to be doing. A house built out of glass and gold is not a well built house.

[@Viesta]

im surprised apple is still even around at this point...

[@nagyFerko]

One thing one one consider is the cooling of the Soc. the quest has a phone Soc optimized for xr probably clocked down as they did with the quest 2 because they didn’t put better and heavier cooling into the device. While the Vision Pro has a much stronger Soc which probably produce more heat too, so a full aluminium body probably help with cooling that compared to a fully plastic body. Also it isn’t that much heavier. There are vr headsets heavier that the Vision Pro without a full laptop built into them, and people don’t complain. The strap could been better like the solutions out there to use 2 strap at the same time. Glass in the front is probably used to make it easier to clean then a see trough plastic

[@iakobkv271]

Yes. not to mention that if you drop AVP.....time to pray

[@nagyFerko]

@@iakobkv271 it can handle it pretty well

[@CannonKnight]

I did the AVP demo, and I was shocked I WASN'T blown away. By far, the most impressive thing for me was an Avatar movie clip. Sure, the eye tracking/pinching interface is nice, but that's not why I would buy something like that. I don't own a Mac, and I don't subscribe to those streaming services, so I literally don't have a use for it. Overall, I feel the Quest 3 is a better product.

[@ShaunaMorgan]

I demo'd it as well, and walked away a bit Meh, myself.

[@coolertuep]

You gave extra points to the vision pro for Eyesight and eyetracking but no extra points to the quest for oculus Link, headphone jack, charging station connector… - feels a bit random to give points this way tbh And all categories are worth 1 point, but a category like the screen quality is for sure much more important than the built quality/used materials or the design/look of the devices. Also why no „through the len“ comparisons?

[@nagyFerko]

As he mentioned in a previous video, the trough the lens comparison is hard with the Vision Pro, as it is using your eye to let you use the headset. So it might not even really possible as it will most likely lock when removed from the head and only unlock when sees your eyes.

[@djp1234]

I tried the Vision Pro. The micro oled displays are really sharp, but I did notice the persistence problem, and the passthrough video was very noisy, even in a brightly lit Apple Store. And if I can’t play PCVR on it, then it’s a waste of money.

[@DemoEvolvedGaming]

Really strange scoring where we give points to the AVP just because it looks better while sitting on the table. And its very damning to say, I put the AVP on but there's nothing to do and I would rather use my iPad. To conclude that there is more USE for a Quest but score the AVP higher seems really misdirecting to the VR uninitiated. The Quest 3 is convincingly the best headset for actual useabilty and things to do right now. I think the points should reflect that. Of course, that was your whole plan all along, right? to get people worked up enough to comment ;-P

[@dtz1000]

I think you're too cynical. I thought he did a great comparison until I read the comments.

[@KuMoNKo]

The scoring is a mesh. To give the same weight to 'build quality' as 'controls' or to measure 'design' just as how does it look it's not fair. As far as it doesn't break down, controls are far more important than build quality. And design is not only if it looks good. The decision to use an external battery instead of lighter materials is design too. Or to put the weight on the front without a top strap. Quest 3 wins design by far IMO. I think Quest 3 wins, even if Vision Pro were $1000 or something. Looking forward for immersed Visor

[@AhmadN]

@@KuMoNKoYou hit the nail on the head. Thank you. Even if AVP was 500 more , the things you can do with Q3 which no one denies is a lot of fun , you can not do with AVP. If I want to use words and excel, I don’t need a VR head seat for that, an IPad or even Chromebook would do much easier Even if your eye not looking at letter O you can type O. Sorry I had to put that one on there. How is not Turing to eye when you constantly moving letter to letter.

[@jdarg4163]

And bro I am a Music Producer and I use my Quest 3 for that percific purpose and to play mixed reality games and the Quest 3 is much better for musicians as it has a headphone jack and a USB C port which means I can play live instruments I'm the headset and record straight in to my sound card and in to logic pro x or protools etc so for productivity it's the Quest 3 bro for me

[@Viesta]

damn. that sounds like an awesome use case

[@Leshelod]

It's nice of you that you give many poins to Quest3. Many KZbinrs even say Quest3 was better. I guess they do that because hardly no one can afford the Apple device. In my opinion, the two headsets can not even be compared. The Vision Pro is a professional workstation, like a full office right where you need it. While the Quest3, on the other hand, is a gaming toy. Sorry, correct me if I'm wrong.

[@triax7006]

The AVP has the potential to be a workstation however it's heavy, bulky & will not see ppl who can already afford multiple monitors use it unless the AVP has AR/VR apps that mean the AVP has a use case for productivity. People have said that they can use the Quest 3 very well to do productivity, whilst the quality of what is seen is not as high as the AVP the actual use of it is much better & is more comfortable to use. But again if ppl have got multiple monitors they are not going to sit there with a bulky heavy headset on when they can do the same work on those multiple physical monitors.

[@soistheman]

You can't give a point for build quality when AVP is using completely wrong material for VR headset.

[@vrambassador]

Today Tyrell destroyed all his good work, rating this piece of crap higher than the quest.

[@stefanschuchardt5734]

​@@vrambassadorEasy with such a harsh statement. There is no discussion that the vision pro is technically superior. The micro display alone. But I do agree, the Quest is a much sensible product. Don't be a Meta/Quest fanboy.

[@stefanschuchardt5734]

The front isn't glass by the way

[@GenghisGaming]

@@stefanschuchardt5734 it laminated glass, still has glass

[@breeknow]

@@stefanschuchardt5734nah, the quest destroys the avp. The avp is a one trick poney.

[@jennifergala]

Screen door effect is non existent on the Quest 3. Temu?

[@QUESTPAUSE]

As an original VR user since DK1 in 2011, I anticipate that Apple may eventually introduce their own VR controllers, likely at a premium price point of around 600 euros. By the way, I'm currently leaning towards Meta for my VR experiences.

[@MethosOhio]

Here's that I really want to know @Tyrielwood. Hypothetically, if these were the only 2 headset that existed, they both cost $700, and you could only choose one, which one would you get? If I could only have one, I personally would have to choose Quest 3 just for THE library and flexibility. But I'd like to hear what someone who owns both currently would choose.

[@zeNUKEify]

That’s like asking if a bike and car both cost $100 which one people would pick

[@GenghisGaming]

Have a vision pro and quest and I'd choose vision pro since ive basically fallen out of love with VR games. The AVP being a well implemented VR/AR version of the devices I already use most often makes it a no brainer for me. The quest is by far the better gaming device but VR gaming doesn't interest me much anymore so AVP all the way.

[@vcarter86]

​ok and what do you usually do with the AVP? Watching films? Because so many people told already that in sense of productivity AVP isnt better than a normal desktop using with 2-3monitors.

[@LARVideos]

@@zeNUKEify It isn't. Because nobody would choose the bike if they were both the same price. That's the point. If the quest and AVP were both the same price, it'd still be a better choice to go with the Quest 3. The cheaper thing is a better thing to get than the expensive one.

[@zeNUKEify]

@@LARVideos Literally nobody would pick a quest3 unless they were eight years old and like playing beat saber and gorilla tag

[@Viesta]

Dang... Temu?

[@nejihiashi]

Why?

​@@nejihiashi I had same question. Then I googled "why temu bad" and I fell into a rabbit hole. One thing that I know for sure is that I will not be touching it. Not even through web browser in private mode.

[@MobileDecay]

Apple supports suicide nets. 😊

[@Tyrielwood]

feedback taken!

[@Nithlus]

AvP will always be aliens vs predator to me. Also please dont sell out I hate having to find different youtubers once they sell out.

[@AnkardTan]

the PCVR layer of Quest 3 makes it more powerful than the AVP, depending on your pc. It can still be cheaper than AVP even with a price of a good pc added to it and at the end of the day you can still use the pc

[@coolertuep]

17:00 The XR2 Gen 2 is based on the SD 8 Gen 2, which achieves ~2000 Singlecore and ~5000 Multicore scores. So that comparison/number dont feel right when compared to an iPad M2

[@nagyFerko]

But it is not an ad 8 gen2 based on something and actually having close performance is different. Also it is used for the sensor processing while the Vision Pro has a separate chip for that, so you are losing processing power there too. And we didn’t talked about that meta is probably down locked the Soc as they did with every other quest, to make it easier to cool.

[@coolertuep]

@@nagyFerko the XR2 gen 2 has 2 extra cores for all the VR related processing (positional tracking etc.) Yes, SOCs in VR headsets are usually downcocked, because they cant throttle (otherwhise you would vomit once they start throttling and the framerate goes down). But the comparison uses the M2 in an iPad (which obviously can use a short burst of max power and then throttle), not the M2 in the VP which likely is downclocked as well for the same reasons.

[@nagyFerko]

@@coolertuep the m2 is probably not as downclocked as it is in the iPad because it get active cooling, while the iPad in the passively cooled. The Vision Pro got 2 pretty big fan and a full metal body to cool, while the quest has a little fan and a little heatsink.

[@coolertuep]

@@nagyFerko yes but a vr headset or console need consistent performance, a iPad or phone doesnt. Running these chips at max frequency does also burn the battery down. If you look at the nintendo switch, that soc is downclocked for the same reasons while the google tablet with the same soc isnt.

[@nagyFerko]

@@coolertuep so what? So you admit that the quest 3 is probably weaker then a base snapdragon 8 gen 2. The Vision Pro has the battery and the cooling of a MacBook Pro, so is it probably isn’t downclocked that much.

[@kafridon]

Why would you accept sponsorship from a data stealing company?Really disappointed.

[@nukfauxsho]

Apple user here. I've had almost every apple product (sans Vision Pro). I got to use AVP for a good three days and you're right, its like comparing iOS to Android. I actually favor Android in VR to iOS/vOS. The utility is there for those power users, as well as the simplified layout for those newbies.

[@adoculos1046]

yeah since its a still in development industry, there are lots of people on github sharing their crazy demos for quest and their pushing the limits of it and even for that kind of freedom and experiencing the first real steps of vr ar mr in first hand make me so happy ! btw its my only android based device since 2013 so not an apple hater dont worry. when ecosystem and devices get closer to their final form like the smartphones, probably that is when ı am gonna buy an apple made vr headset.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

as far as I know q3 is not adding the color to the 3d black and white scene like Qpro ....it has dual rbg cameras for the passthrough right ......but yeah the chess board moving compared to the cutting board is interesting

[@Ballissle]

Yeah in pretty sure the q3 is not adding the colour like the pro because if that were the case I should be able to see infrared lights in the quest 3 like I can the quest 2 but I cannot.

[@pumpuppthevolume]

@@Ballissle yeah Tyriel knows it but I guess he misspoke ...I'm just mentioning it if people don't know

[@Tyrielwood]

@@pumpuppthevolume yep, it's actually the pro doing it, I was trying to explain the thing and I've got tangled XD, but I can confirm the problem with the different prospetive. it's really nauseating and I don't understand how nobody is mentioning it.

[@Voidstroyer]

This would at the very least be a tie since the "Eye sight" portion could be integrated into the software part of the device. It doesn't add anything to the AR/VR experience for ourselves so it doesn't count. And not mentioning that the Quest actually has controllers is a crime. This would bring both devices up to 8 points each. On the software front however, I am sure that many more things can be said about the Quest as compared to the AVP (airlink, headphone jack, mods which have their own batteries extending the battery life even more, etc). And all of that for just $500 as compared to $3500. The clear winner is the Quest. However, for its first iteration, the AVP is quite nice.

[@RolandDobbins]

Have you considered winding up the battery cable & attaching the battery to the strap on the back of your head?

[@sergej_mutlich3244]

Is AVP usable standalone? Or does it need to be connected to an iphone?

[@BranVR]

temu sponsorship? oh lord

[@solarict03]

not a fan of it either :

[@BranVR]

@@adeldeutsch3901 🤨

[@ZAMtech1994]

Has a random ass category for "Eye Sight" some shitty arbitrary feature that only the Vision Pro has that literally nobody asked for because its creepy as hell and makes the rest of the headset worse. Gives a point to Apple. Nice

[@triax7006]

Lol yes that was hilarious. That desperate for the AVP to get points he gave a point for a useless feature that doesn't even work properly.

[@engmatz]

4k per eye and support hdr10 and dolby vision in Vision Pro

[@covertpuppytwo3857]

This is by far NOT an "in-depth comparison" particularly if we compare it to your past video comparisons of headsets...

[@Tyrielwood]

I'll make a TTL soon don't worry :)

[@djaroud]

Very disappointed from the Apple vision pro when i read that they used Ipad OS , not far from a scam to call him spatial computing, yes computing email photos and video ... , all this power to show off 👎🏻 (what a waste, speaking for me of course)

[@Cyb3rRust]

A point should be added to avp for the screen cracking down the middle for no reason at all. You forgot about that. Just using it and the heating and then cooling to quickly causes the fracture alot of cases people takrs it off and wakes up its cracked down the moddle

[@Tyrielwood]

I saw some cases of that happening on reddit. now I'm scared XD

[@cubenmaker1164]

So many videos comparing Apple Vision Pro to Meta Quest 3! But no one compares them using the most important criteria. That is: if you could only have one headset to use and had to choose between AVP and Quest 3, and cost was not a factor, which would you choose? Like many people I would choose the Quest 3 in a heartbeat. I agree with Zuckerberg that the Quest 3 is overall the better product, since it does more of what most people want a headset to do. It takes full advantage of the 3D environment through VR games and other immersive experiences. The AVP seems mostly intended for looking at flat screens in a 3D environment, which add little value for most people. The superior build quality and better technical specs of the AVP alone don't make it a better product. The Visor AR glasses due out this year should provide roughly equal "spatial computing" capability to the AVP, but in a far better form factor and about a quarter of the cost. Also, I must disagree with some of your comparison categories. Giving equal weight to "gaming" and the very gimmicky "eye sight" feature of the AVP seems a bit disproportionate.

[@kuko61]

You have forgotten one important thing, the overall compatibility and usability. If you are not familiar with the Apple ecosystem and don't have a Mac or MacBook, AVP is basically useless. Its usability is rapidly declining. In contrast, Quest 3 is just as usable whether you have a Mac or a PC. Productivity and screen mirroring apps for your computer or laptop exist on both platforms.

[@InteractiveDNA]

True! It is like buying a Ferrari and you can drive on every road, you must have your own road and money falling out of the sky to afford this apple device. People are just NUTS! when you can buy a game PC, Wide Screen, A Quest 3 and have money left for a trip to Europe with everything payed. This nust!

[@triax7006]

@@InteractiveDNA Have to look at the AVP as a thing that won't get much use from the buyer & the buyer won't miss spending $3.5k (more than $4k with taxes & other things like Applecare). I mean it isn't even available outside the US & I suspect as ppl have returned it the sales won't be too hot. After the first few days of "wow" a fast dawning of how useless it really is. Even if it could be used for VR gaming with controls & connected to a PC then due to the relatively poor lenses & poor FOV then for $3.5k it is a viable option over actual gaming headsets. The only thing that could save it is AVP AR/VR apps that ppl would want to use. To be honest I just can't see any that could be made to make ppl strap that to the heard.

[@luke.rayman]

10:00 - this transition was so nice! 👏

[@kindpanda1075]

Reasonably the accessories and the ability to accessorize should have come up at some point. Fact that you're not stuck with the battery on the front only on the Quest 3 I don't know about the Apple vision pro.

[@vrambassador]

Today you got my unsubscribe. For the following reasons: - Tracking and Handtracking ist not a draw, it goes to the Q3 - Temu Ads - Looks like you're an apple fan boy bye bye....

[@sadekf-l9u]

The ninth point is not considered for AVP because it is ineffective and unimportant in virtual reality

[@antonzhylenko2132]

Talking about productivity, I guess you have tried Immersed app for Q3, but didn't mention it for some reason. It makes Q3 a challanger at the very least.

[@luckylanno]

Odd that you didn't mention that there are different sizes and shapes for the AVP's facial interface

[@stephenbard1590]

We would like you to please test the AVP's first actual "VR" game, which is "Proton Pulse". We fondly remember this game as one of the earliest truly fun VR games from the Oculus Rift days, but it is still great. The only reason it even works on the AVP is that you "head-butt" the "balls". We are curious about whether the game's motion works with the AVP's motion blur/ latency limitations.

[@Craxton___]

why did you not include the IPD

[@Tyrielwood]

good point. it was actually in my script, but I don't know why I didn't mention it. it's automatic on the AVP, so it makes it much easier, but at the same time the lenses on the Q3 have a bigger sweet spot, so it doesn't matter as much the perfect position.

[@Craxton___]

yeah thanks for letting me know @@Tyrielwood

[@TehJumpingJawa]

I've a feeling the AVP will do more harm than good for VR adoption. By releasing an exorbitantly priced headset that has many design flaws, and an acute shortage of software support, Apple are presenting to the pro-sumers that VR has no real world uses.

[@cpaps8500]

Supporting Temu, a company implicated in using forced labour and privacy violations really undermines the integrity of your content. Please reconsider your sponsors.

[@NotAVtuberPinkyPromise]

In his defence, that applies to literally every Chinese company.

[@firstjayjay]

​@@NotAVtuberPinkyPromisesadly it's true. No one is clean once you start digging. What we have become, finding faults in others

[@sheld0n]

Or at least tag your ads so we can skip through that shit

[@MobileDecay]

Apple isn't exactly innocent with slave labor.

[@sojourner4726]

@@NotAVtuberPinkyPromise You are incredibly gullible if you believe that.

[@deutrolige]

Great video as always 🙂. I only own a Quest 3 as I am a very casual user/gamer and I would never spend 3,500 in something like that. But just looking at the price difference I would assume, and actually think that Apple Vision Pro is just better, the build quality, technology, etc... but still a very raw product, without many capabilities and lack of software in the store as the more mature Quest platform. We are comparing two very different products but I am actually quite surprise that the Quest 3 is actually better in many areas. Keep up the good work 🙂

[@salcarreiro6756]

I have always enjoyed your videos, but I have to say, I fundamentally disagree with how you have these videos set up. These binary, Assigning a point, no point system takes out the nuance in a lot of things. I think if you were to do these vs vids with each segment a 10 point score we would see a more nuance score that would speak to more to this HMD does a good job of this and this other does a good job but just not as good. There would likely be less ties as well.

[@shockenfreude]

its embarassing that the quest 3 is essentially equal overall at 3000$ less. if you look the price of those microoleds, meta could literally sell a metaquest 4 with those screens and a new snapdragon elite for 1000$. apple is such a ripoff.

[@luke.rayman]

1 point for comfort is more valuable than all the points for design and using heavy materials like glass and aluminum. Actually, Quest 3 should get a point for using light materials and having lower weight.

[@Tyrielwood]

that's a good point.

[@K11...]

Let's hope developers disregard the low number of AVP users, and start making apps out of the goodness of their hearts.

[@XsynthZ]

the AVP will be DOA with devs because of how hostile Apple is towards them. I've done iOS development before and I hope to never have to do it again. It's truly insufferable to have to jump through all of Apple's hoops.

[@user-hx3vp2vp7v]

Would be nice to see lens clarity comparison between Q3 and AVP

[@Tyrielwood]

I'm working on it. it's complicated tho

[@KennylexLuckless]

Where is the rule that Apples battery need to be in the pocket? With a shorter cable and some fantasy I guess some can place it on the back of the strap, maybe duct tape, on the other hand do I think Apple users are not so much into DIY.

[@riba2233]

nothing like duct taping a 3500 usd device...

[@vrambassador]

there is no shorter cable, its propriatary shit.

[@adrianfox7972]

Good detailed review, I think a lot of Apple fans would be surprised their new headset isn't better than the Quest 3 in quite a few ways. It feels a bit arrogant for Apple to turn up late to the VR market and assume they could just lead in all areas. Making things hi-res or more powerful is only a small part of the user experience.

[@gerasmus]

Thank you for the review.

[@mrdummy_nl]

Missed test: will it survive drop? :) There are already videos out, makes Q3 wins here.

[@dathyr1]

i don't really care if the Vision Pro can do better or not, it is how much I have in my pocket book and what I can afford. Quest 3 has the lens quality and I only use VR with gaming. I don't need eye tracking or use it with daily business/social needs. I just got my Quest 3 a few days ago and setting it up this week and trying it on SIM racing games. From other SIM racers, they say the Quest 3 is very good with racing games. I know from video reviewers that the Quest 3 does use allot of battery power and drains the battery faster than the Quest 2. Note: I never had a Quest 2 I do have a tethered Rift S VR headset which I like as a backup and have used for several years now. Thanks for the video.

[@sonicsnake44]

I updated from a Rift S to quest 3 myself a week ago. I did buy a big battery bank for it, which last for a decent amount of hours before it reaches zero.

[@jdarg4163]

I wouldn't buy one of them as I hear the glass starts cracking by itself and them applenwill charge you $300 even though its a design fault so in my opinion the Quest 3 is much better designed as its more durable and can take a know or 2

[@jungleboy1]

logged in expecting to see a tyrielwood video for Q3 vs AVP and what do i get? The Video!!! Woo!

[@n9ne]

is temu the new wish?

[@DanteHUN893]

Hi Tyriel what do you think about the high prices of the quest 3? In the europian amazaon now almost cost 800 euro the quest 3 128 gb version.... In my opinion it's a joke.

[@jocg9168]

I'm team "more money on MY pocket." The price of AVP is just way too much for something you use time to time this case I go to meta I would mind pay a double but like 7x no thanks.

[@redrex91]

Someone needs to come up with a better headstrap for the AVP with battery built in like the Bobo VR ones. Until then, the cord hanging with attached battery is terrible design. Steve Jobs would have never released it as is.

[@redgeciccone8218]

When it comes out, it will be $5K in Canada. Like many Apple users, I might buy it and then return it, just to test it out. For many years, Apple has never really focused on gaming. Even on Mac, there are games, but not as many as on PC. The games that do exist on Mac are often created by designers who are themselves Mac enthusiasts. Most other game studios will not develop a version particularly for Mac. That's Apple, you either like it or you don't.

[@LARVideos]

Design: I'm surprised you added something so subjective here... that shouldn't even be something here. Some people may think the AVP looks better or worse than the Quest 3. Though you can argue the objective aspects of design like the materials they decided to build it out of. Which again, the AVP chose poorly. Personally, I think the 3 camera holes in the front of the quest 3 look way cooler than the weird ski goggle vibe the Vision Pro has.

[@benkalies7432]

i'd like to hear a quality review after a year of ownership!

[@TheKinren]

Vision Pro can't immerse you very well in a VR environment. These devices are completely different and Quest 3 is actual VR were AVP is not.

[@sonicsnake44]

To be fare the AR part of Vision Pro has always been what Apple was pushing from the beginning but yeah its Weird that with all that power it's less immersive than quest 3.

[@PitsCoful]

I would have to add that you are not comparing apples to apples. No content provider I listen to ever makes any point about the Quest 3 not being a "Pro" device. With that said, I think that considering everyone is comparing the two so closely says that the Quest 3 is obviously a close competitor and the Q3 is not even a "Pro" device. I wonder how much better the "Quest Pro 2" will be when it's released and compared to the AVP? Food for thought?

[@sourcecaster]

Thank you for not calling it "spacial whatever". It's a VR headset, period.

[@lifecapture]

Please doublecheck your sponsors. I am not sure if you want to be associated with a company like Temu. Good Video tho.

[@Tyrielwood]

feedback taken

[@jartran]

Temu!? 🤯 Bruh... No.

[@Tyrielwood]

Feedback taken!

[@damnbrosky]

hi you glue your self to opinion that both devices are made for different things but I want to say that things you can do on VP they are always available on quest3 and things that Quest 3 can do they are out of rich for VP, Apple doing simple thing and polish it , thats it, Quest is doing tons of things and they kinda les developed , for me I like to have mor even if this is visually limited than les but looking better. I will always choose big house with many casual rums than just one room but better designed. I understand that apple fans dont need anything more than nice looking things to be happy but many people already choose android for it compexity and here we have similar case.

[@KAGReacts]

That's not a dog, that's a wolf you have in your house lol 😂

[@Tyrielwood]

just 50% XD

[@Hellknight27]

'Only a screen replacement for crazy users' Brad enters the chat lol

[@sheld0n]

I don't want Meta doing eye tracking and gathering data about what ads im looking at

[@reekrouse5672]

im commenting from my quest 2 thats mirroring my desktop

[@Bstky73]

You were in a hurry to release the comparison, you should have waited until update 63 came out

[@Tyrielwood]

for Airplane mode?

[@richie_01]

Good review. Again, I can't understand why youtubers keep comparing Quest with AVP. I mean, I have not seen any Quest vs Varjo XR4 comparison out there. There are completely different devices, categories, specs, usecases and target audience. In fact, I don't understand a review outside Mac ecosystem environment since I (and, I believe, Apple) consider this device as a new flavor in Mac/iOS world and not anything belonging to the VR sphere. Also, why is 500 for Quest better than 3500 for the AVP? You can't rate a price for its absolute amount. Yes, you can buy 7 Quest with the price of AVP but you can also buy 7 android phones for the price of a MacbookPro. In fact, if you consider the price of M2 computers, plus high quality huge monitors, cameras, sensors… it doesn't seem really expensive (for the product). I can't afford it right now but I can¡t afford a new car either.

[@kokop1107]

Good video!

[@InteractiveDNA]

You forgot many things the is important like developments and 3rd party support in witch Quests line have endless capabilities. And very important open vs closed system. If Quest 4 uses RYYB sensels it will be a game change on video resolution on day time and night time. Based on your review the Quest is a BIG winner here! Apple Vision Pro is not even close because of it's closed system and lack of playing games and be productive free of cables. And what makes worse is that an used Quest 2 is around $100 in witch does 90% what Apple Vision Pro does and you can be free of cables. Think about this way, Apple Vision Pro is a Ferrari and the Quest 2 and Quest 3 is a truck, the truck can go anywhere.

[@desiv1170]

As the AVP is 7 times more expensive than the Q3, I don't you should have just been comparing whether or not each item is better. Rather, is each item 7 times better... ;-)

[@Wafuo]

temu sponser ive lost respect

[@Tyrielwood]

feedback taken!

[@NicolasDelfino]

Tyriel, I really like you... And I mean it ! But not Temu. Please... It's not just about "money" or "saving the planet", it also about security, confidentiality, destroying the local market (any local market), and I can continue for a long time. I'm gonna have to dislike this video, even if I really like the content. But I personally can't let you get visibility while promoting Temu. Best luck.

[@Tyrielwood]

feedback taken and thanks for the explanation.

[@kanth66]

Choice for gaming will win every time

[@SuperPaiku]

You are putting out this comparison like a month after the release and you still even know that eyesight only works if you have someone in the vision of the AVP. Sry but not a good comparison.

[@CarbonatedTurtle]

It sure is great that the AVP has such a high resolution for grabbing and moving virtual windows around, since that's the only thing it can do. Spending $3500 on a VR headset that can't even play games is a joke, and I totally get why you'd have one since VR is your business, but anyone else who's buying it deserves to be scammed.

[@adeldeutsch3901]

Even if both headsets were at the same price, I’ll be still buying the Quest 3

[@felipesouza-zx2ki]

Avp had wonderful ideas and features but It seems they were a lil poorly executed. The hardware is so freaking good and superior but the UX and UI still has some trouble and big limitations. Well, a $3500 product shouldnt have these problems. Note: Productivity and daily experiencie wise, I think Its a tie, avp and Quest needs additional hardware for better performance and Apple has a Lot of products that link in one big environment but its still limited by IOS. Mq3 with other additional hardware makes It even better. The hand tracking and interactiveness seems Far more userfriendly than avs. The eye tracking may be innovative but it may turn out to be annoying and confusing sometimes.

[@felipesouza-zx2ki]

Overall, meta Quest 3 is Far better product. Much more apps, games, utilities and more userfriendly. (My opinion based on a fair amount of reviews and analysis i watched 😅)

[@mhnoni]

The fact Q3 lenses win over AVP is enough for me not to buy AVP even if it costs $500.

[@mudai_]

7:42

[@firstjayjay]

Naah don't feel it. Category 2 and 3 are basically the same. Recount.. 😂 But what good is a slightly and none beneficial bigger processor, ppi, eye tracking when it cost 7 times and gonna collect dust after the honeymoon period. If you want diverse headset go quest, if you feel your accessories define you go sheep.

[@liquid79]

The score is extremely uneven. Some of these points weigh heavier than others. Such as being tethered to the battery and not being able to play games. Cant use it for fitness or make precise controls/movements without a controller. There's hardly and use for the AVP at the moment. Like you said you see the AVP sitting there and you dont know what to do with it as there are no useful fun apps/games. Also, the irony for apple to be using cords for a device like this as they are solely responsible for pushing the phone industry to remove the audio jack from phones.

[@triax7006]

I agree. The value is worth more than a point & then he gives a point to the AVP for the stupid useless front screen for the eyes that doesn't even work properly. The quest 3 trounces the AVP in all the important areas & for $3.5k I would hope that it would have better resolution & a better computing chip than a $500 headset. At the end of the day what he said at the end was telling, he can't really see a use for the AVP, so it's like an expensive piece of tech that will wow for a day or so & then be put back into the box hoping for some apps to make it worth digging out again.

[@filipmarkovic369]

The scoring system kinda sucks. The price is worth equally as many points as eye sight according to this scoring system

[@triax7006]

I mean he gave a point to the AVP for the stupid front eye thing on the screen that doesn't even work properly. Seems he probably knew the quest would win on the actual important things overall so had to alter the scoring & add in useless points to get the expensive useless AVP to win.

[@trubachoff]

Eye tracking for UI control is the dumbest thing you could come up with 🙈

[@liquid79]

Quest 3 for the win!

[@w1-w2-w3]

Just 2 points difference between $500 and $3500 products??? Massive win for Quest 3 obviously. The main reason I bought VR headset is for Gaming. LOL

[@calmpuffin]

Tyriel you are better than Temu… I hope they pay well at least, the vision pro ain’t cheap of course

[@jjjurgensen454]

So ….. how’s everyone doing 😬?

[@ralexand56]

If a person has used both you would know that the vp is much better than the quest. I understand why all the tech reviewers try to make it like they are almost the same though so they don’t alienate their audience who wouldn’t spend $4k on tech. It’s reassuring to tell them you’re getting the same thing for 7 times less. They are lying. I would rather spend the money for quality and something I want to use vs. something like the quest whose pass through and screen are so poor that you don’t want to use it.

[@Augusto9588]

On the other hand, the AVP no usefulness compared to using regular monitors, as opposed to the Quest, which actually has VR games that you can't experience in any other way.

[@ralexand56]

@@Augusto9588 not a hardcore vr gamer so that use case doesn't apply to me and I'm using my vp for everything I currently do with my phone so the idea that there is nothing to do with it is laughable

[@ralexand56]

@@Augusto9588 the vp has many advantages over a regular monitor. No clue what you mean by that

[@Augusto9588]

@@ralexand56 Exactly, you're doing exactly the same thing as you do with your phone. Why would i wear something heavy on my face when i can do the EXACT same thing, or even better, with my phone or PC, all while without spending 3.5k? And yes... it does bring some advantages, like becoming completely delusional about its usefulness because you convinced yourself that this is "LE FUTURE".

[@deepdivevr7244]

pointless video. no games equals useless headset

[@redfrog2100]

Whats the deal with every youtube content creaitor" chair jumpping" ?! So silly.

[@SinanAkkoyun]

Real