Applying 9k Carry Techniques to 3k Games with a Lane Disadvantage! (Educational Smurf Ep.12)

BSJ decided to smurf as carry, in the Legend bracket - to show you how to solo carry games using the techniques and skill learnt from his 9k bracket ranked games, but from when you are behind.
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Applying 9k Carry Techniques to 3k Games With a Lane Disadvantage! (Educational Smurf Ep.12)

[@samuelelias5115]

BSJ wanted a tough game, Enigma heard that and said "Challenge accepted."

[@bruh-st5wd]

i think he knew it was bsj somehow and started trolling him

[@elperrobarbaro]

Enigma: Hold my beer...

[@timothylalrinawmakhiangte8753]

when you queue for pos 1 but that one guy in your game queues for pos 0.5

[@hompimpa0703]

I'm laughing so hard when enigma says "NO follow up"

[@addarquthni245]

Imagine that enigma is speed with his smurf content

[@chion6432]

Would be hella funny

[@drk_ey3s699]

Would have been more fun if underlord was speeed...

[@atulbartwal2421]

Haha... It's quite possible

[@namitlodha7249]

Dude that would be great but unfortunately they are on different servers

[@dogearfarf]

@@namitlodha7249 what server does speeeed plays

[@nomscripts]

Have someone who's actually 3k play the game for you first 7 minutes then swap.

[@pascal30161]

I think his girlfriend is in the 4k range, so that would've been the perfect setup.

[@asdfcqw]

@@pascal30161 Very good idea, hope they do this

[@hosseindaneshpajooh8532]

I mean he played almost like a 2k on purpose dude

[@SK3564]

I found it fun watching him explicitly say what 3k mistakes are and do them. It's cool to learn what not to do

[@sourishsengupta8812]

@Nom This was suggested to him by someone in Twitch chat. But he said its not possible as his girlfriend plays on very different hotkeys.

[@fresquitotv]

The 3K experience is enbodied in this enigma. When I play carry, what I fear most is this kind of players. Usually it's my offlane griefing me and then suiciding all the time.

[@atulbartwal2421]

I am 2.7K. For this sole reason, I switched from carry to pos3.

[@shaunabrams2279]

BSJ: *20 min phase boots, bracer, rads and wand - "Our Enigma is kinda grieving us but we're still doing pretty good" WK carry in my games: *20 min rads brown boot - "Guys I'm really strong, lets fight!"

[@akonlee200]

Also add Armlet for BSJ to the list

[@DinhQHuy]

6:00 lmao "aren't you bsj girlfriend"

[@nathanaels9605]

I don't think you were gimped hard enough in lane, especially considering the other two lanes won; however, in to the midgame I think your team certainly tried their hardest to slow you down and it was very informative watching you adjust and commentate over. Edit: Watched the video again a few months later and I changed my mind a little; I think this was a good example of a weaker laning stage but the two other lanes doing so well made it seem like you had a decent lane from the opponents perspective anyway. I initially felt you were still strong coming out of the lane but it was because of the opponents being weaker than expected from the other two lanes. 42:00 LMAO also missed that hilarious Enigma Aegis steal into double highground feed AND giving Rubik blackhole. "NO follow up". Whew.

[@no3ironman11100]

TEAM BAD. MY CARRY USELESS. ME PLAY ENIGMA POS5. NO FOLLOW UP WHEN I BLINK IN SUDDENLY. REPORT WRAITH KING GRIEF ME THATS WHY IM STUCK 3K OOGA BOOGA

[@SayNoobB4ULeave]

I love the "Team no follow up" when he hit no one and gave Rubick blackhole. It's too funny. I literally couldn't stop laughing for like 2 minutes

[@beanbinder]

Dont forget blaming it on SEA server

[@joebearslim]

This is a great series. I saw myself as a herald watching this and wanting to click on enigmas items so I could be justified in my anger. But then I realized that BSJ never once clicked him to see his items, just assumed it was a 4v5 and moved the map in such a way that they didn’t take 4v5 fights mid. Really great content dude. Keep this series up.. it’s going to make NA Dota better in terms of skill and positivity in region

[@chinguunssi1523]

Yes, really wise of BSJ.

[@BaufenBeast]

Players like Enigma aren't worth spending the effort to be mad at. Just play around them.

[@AchinthyaHemachandra]

BSJ with 90 health in lane against Underlord and Rubick, thinking like a 3k: I'm sure I'm fiiine. You didn't have to call me out like like that.

[@wag0NE]

Im gonna play bad till 7 mins.... 44 lh at 7 min 14 secs... If only I could play that bad.

[@Taziod]

He's 17/1 at 5mins as Wraith king....and his opponents do a stupid hard camp pull and he just walks up and takes it because they misuse spells and can't take it quickly. I don't know cause I'm 1.3k mmr, but I can easily get 50-70lhs at 10mins as Wraith King he has literally auto-farm technology and fisher price last hit passive lol

[@timothyjason7886]

@@Taziod yea bro, u can easily get 50-70 lhs cause u against the same 1.3k player. it is harder to get more lhs in the higher bracket as they care on denying more.

[@wag0NE]

@@Taziod So where the video is trying to teach how to apply 9k carry tecnique to a 3k game with a lane disadvantage, whats the point of doing relatively well (44lh at 7min) which most 3k players with a massive lane disadvantage would never hope to achieve at their level?

[@WhitePerson-]

@@Taziod how are u even 1.3k mmr lol how does people go below 2.5k rank, all u have to do is use 11% of your brain and u can become legend rank. carry: farm,denie, make farm item, play safer till 20-25min, farm mid: take runes at min 4, take rune at min 5, rotate, farm off: get regeneration both mana/hp, spam skills, denie creeps, pull camps, force teleports , create space, open the map more support: rotate mid at min 4, rotate when ballista comes out, tp mid for bottle refill too, ward deward hard supp: denie,spam skills, help carry to farm, pull, stack, ward/deward, rotate if you do the essentials of your roles, there is no way you wont reach legend ranks. Even the hero picks are not so much important if you do your role, in the end of the day whatever hero you are, you are still just a UNIT on the map with some damage and movement speed , do your math and do what you need to do thats connected with the essentials of the roles.

[@sugmabolzack4971]

@@WhitePerson- "denie"

[@meeu]

that enigma stole farm and played like dogsh*t. lmao.

[@vincentspaid9175]

1 vs 2 in lane, tried to throw, and still got more cs than me by 10 minutes lol.

[@5t4lk3r00]

Imagine being enigma player watching this xD and realizing he griefed 9K player.

[@revaljq]

Haha, it's not even that important that he griefed a 9k players, it's his utter ignorance about his role and how the game should be played. He even wanted to go Radiance, it's ridiculous how bad people get, and this is not even that low of a bracket.

[@5t4lk3r00]

@@revaljq I know. These are the token players😂 He plays only carry or only mid so after he has no tokens he just ruins 10 games straight and play his role after. Just playing like a core on every position and sadly I'm playing with those people. That's just life like bsj mentioned.

[@revaljq]

@@5t4lk3r00 Wish I could just go about that like he does, instead I would spend half of the game flaming Enigma and probably by doing that I'd be griefing myself and my team in general.

[@Kazz1187]

Even in ranked no less haha

[@wellendowedplatypus9024]

Thank god for that Enigma or the smurf wouldn't have been educational. The ranked queue is the best thing to happen to DotA IMO but this is the downside - total dipshits playing roles they can't and don't even try to learn. Fuck those guys.

[@tefcar6999]

That enigma made me so tilted haha

[@asashank7194]

Honestly never been so impressed with a dota 2 coach ever before . I have been playing dota for almost like 4-5 years and I am stuck at legend . The kind of impact your coaching has on my mind is litreally mind blowing. I am able to understand learn and see the game through a new perspective . Thanks BSJ . Love from india .

[@bobmuller3118]

God damn That Enigma taunted me so much even from the Backseat! Prolly a usual carry who forgot to cross out hard-support in the game-queue and told himself "This is right because I am the far better carryplayer"

[@johnvaldez5268]

if hes a bad support, hes a bad carry. Over all hes a worst teammate youll ever have. Cant site even one thing he done good in that game

[@user-yy3ki9rl6i]

i can tell he belong to 1k bracket for that blind high ground black hole with no bkb. i don't think it even works against passive AI.

[@alvinreyes9338]

@@user-yy3ki9rl6i probably a 1k player bracket obviously buying an account or made somebody else play for mmr placement

[@justfelix9122]

He probaply just wanted to get role queue games, got 5 and thought team's shit coz he isn't carry. Picked Enigma because he has high win rate and can colo farm. Shit mentality from shit player.

[@miggygatchalian7886]

I used to play offlane because i had no idea how to carry games but i dont want to play passive support nor mid. Ive been watching your tutorials for the past couple of weeks prolly TI week and I've gathered so much more idea about farming, laning, and carrying games. Now, Ive been spamming 1's and I think it's working well(regardless if I had a bad early game, bad support, bad mid rotations, whatever hero i pick or whatnot) Thanks man

[@user-if6qp1lw2b]

enigma should be reported for not playing the role he was assigned to

[@mr.mcfife4131]

And a whole bunch of other things as well

[@wellendowedplatypus9024]

The true 3k experience. Unfortunately, the same extends to 4.8K in my experience. The trench never ends...

[@steffkepn2]

@@wellendowedplatypus9024 im in 5k eu, experience is not at all like in this video, people are capable to actually rape you in mid game if you make mistakes in first 10 min. This really looks like crusader in eu. You just need to be 10k behaviour, and i never saw divine enigma pos 5 asking for radiance in my bracket. But if you ask me, i would honestly deboost myself to 3k to enjoy dota again.

[@Evdota247]

@@steffkepn2 Despite he plays very well I kinda agree with you most of the games in up legend in EU looks so different than NA

[@valentinpopescu98]

@@steffkepn2 3k is high archon, low legend AFAIK, not crusader

[@DuKeItOuT]

Great educational vid, just wanted to mention the dota wiki says skeletons can't block camps. At 44:23 you pleaded with them not to block your camp. :)

[@whitefata12]

finally I found someone on my bracket in one of his game, thanks enigma-- sadly spectre didn't live up to my expectation of an enemy hypercarry while my team griefs.

[@ConjurusHex]

You should party up with a bunch of Guardian Ranks and play vs. Legends. That way you are sure to have a disadvantage

[@randomcatch8588]

thank you bsj it had some amazing content... im a 3 k and i always blame support when they do some thing wrong. like not pulling/ not hitting their pos 4 or whatever.. this was amazing it rly changed my perspective after i saw that enigma and your reaction about it... so thank you

[@roeelcohen]

Chat: you can't get MMR as support BSJ: smurf as support Chat: you're 9k BSJ: coaching Eri to do the same Chat: but you are not really supporting.. you can't do it as carry, you can't farm. BSJ: smurfs as a carry Chat: but we can't get that good laning stage BSJ: throws the whole early game 😂😂 I wonder what's the next excuse gonna be ;)

[@ivanramos6530]

Nobody says this shit tho

[@cumaisengiseng32]

Chat: The enemy team is noob. Bsj lucky got that scrub

[@sleipnir2034]

BSJ teaches all the time that when your enemy is alive they prevent you from doing what you want to do, and that you should try to do what you want to do when your enemy is dead. Notice when Enigma is alive, he cannot farm the triangle. When Enigma is dead, not only CAN he farm it now, but he DOES farm it, and he makes sure it gets done in a timely manner. Truly amazing pressure given, and relieved, by this 6th enemy player.

[@DiegoReyes-id8kd]

BSJ the enigma SUPPORT 5, farming all the map, is legit the most 3k and below expirience i have seen in your smurf videos LOL, talking by expirience

[@DiegoReyes-id8kd]

No man black hole Enigma : no follow up Lol that was hilarius

[@dr.reubenbuthello2866]

It's 6 years playing and I'm still Herald... I know all the mechanics, the Heros and Items; but I make silly mistakes that cost me the game.... But thanks to you, I have been steadily improving....

[@sgamerhd442]

xdddddddd

[@stefanforsgren9023]

been playing since early versions of dota 1. im still low guardian. just play for the love of the game m8

[@st4rgard3n42]

Enigma "I will black hole any heroes except the ones with disables!"

[@austintollison9075]

“And that’s the power of wraith king boys and by that I mean feeding” that had me dying

[@henningbotha777]

Let Eri play first 5mins, then swap with him. For the Meme's!

[@BB8enjoyer]

Well it won't matter. Cuz he just go jungle and recover like mason luna

[@Marine5D]

Eri is much better now, he will play more like 5k

[@jbhewitt12]

Hahaha I really hope that Enigma watches this and realises what a space cadet he is

[@herbalcamel]

That enigma is peak 3k supporting.

[@JT-Money-]

"Let me get myself a disadvantage". Intentionally dies once, and then proceeds to get 600 farm.

[@BenBenRanger]

i'd really like to see one of these videos where you get off to an actually bad 3k start, like: against a full-on kill lane that doesn't care about cs and just wants to make your life miserable, your other lanes lose, their carry is snowballing, etc

[@Alttoviulu92]

41:59 "Enigma carries the team" moment

[@Anubis56260]

I have learned more stuffs from BSJ than any dota guides out there; period

[@Awesome-ct7vr]

I think the hardest thing in this game wasnt the 9k plays but putting up with enigmas terrorism shit and staying calm. Honestly respect! Idk how I can hate someone so much that i dont even know. Best quote of the video: "Hey wk, can I go radi?" -2k enigma

[@SaintsRow4President]

I fucking love this educational Smurf videos, keep them coming please!

[@JaydenMudge]

Great idea to give yourself a weak start, it really did help emphasize how to play well outside of the laning stage!

[@cadr0ne]

This series actually helped me alot, I never won 0-3 laning not even 0-1, but remembering all of his decision made me won game, would still love to learn from this series

[@samipbhattarai8677]

At 6:00 Enigma asks "Aren't you BSJ girlfriend". I like to imagine that this enigma player knew what was happening here, and what he did, he did it on purpose for BSJ content.

[@evil6inside6me6]

enigma discovered you before the match even start! hahahahah

[@Ascarthor]

saw the first seconds of laning and its already hilarious. i love it :D

[@Gringosaurus]

New haircut! Looking fresh!!

[@bulbasaurboy9893]

You didn't embody the real 3k player in this match. You should aim for something like

[@totkok871]

5 per minute with jungling hero is way to much for losing 3k carry

[@SarcaZmOn]

Or 32 ;d

[@legendp2011]

40cs would be a good representation of a losing or lost lane

[@mumblingmammon]

I am convinced that this enigma is an accomplice to make the game as 3k as possible.... For the algorithm!

[@Eheroduelist]

I’m in 1.5k mmr and the fact this enigma is in 3k absolutely burns

[@offercoffetoknight]

Ngl this channel is underrated

[@exitus2010]

thats why i hated legend bracket more than anything - its full of players like this enigma. who grief you all game long, cant play their role for shit, but will scream at you for not having enough farm or something.

[@_afaq]

BSJ This year : oh well i guess im late on my taxes... thats fine, skeletons will take care of it for me

[@TwistedScarlett60]

Babe, BSJ uploaded a new educational smurf

[@dusc4]

so i've been playing wk for all this patch, ranked up from legend 3 to ancient 4 and didnt know about "microing" the skellies with the stun. Such a nice mechanic thanks bsjuked

[@alijavaherian3272]

This was a life savor bsj thank you. Looooove to see exactly more of these.

[@matis188]

"First seven minutes, I will be playing like a potato..." - BSJ January, 2021

[@SK3564]

Ah when I was watching this on stream I only saw the last part. I'm glad to see you got a game where your team is taking all your farm. That looked more familiar xd Also thanks for trying to get yourself a tough start. Cool 🍌

[@faydn3150]

BSJ looking like a hunk of a daddy with that new cut

[@jaytrox4599]

Reminds me of a recent drow game i had, except it felt way worse. I am a pos 5 player but got stuck playing carry in that match. my pos5 pudge did what he could to leech xp, not pull small and not block/contest the enemies pulling. He managed to get counter kills a few times when this techies primal beast lane was done shredding me. i left the lane at level 5, trying to recover by jungling and taking offlane when my pos 3 magnus left. The game from then on was pretty much like this: Map was mostly dark, my pos 2 literally ported on me to steal waves, used items and skills to rush to ancient and creep camps i was moving towards and generally not creating but soaking space. When i got myself a ward (they were mostly bought out) to secure an area to farm it, as soon as i left to push out a wave, my pos 2 occupied the only secure spot on the map aka the warded farm spot i created. So as an underfarmed and underleveled drow, i had to take the risky farm constantly while my pos 2 kept soaking the space and griefing my game. Of course pinging and tipping me when i got caught and died. In the end, we lost and of course the mid player blamed me for it. I for sure didnt play very good and in retrospective i would have went different items due to how the match played out, but that was one of the most frustrating games i ever played.

[@drabl0]

Little tidbit for bsj at 44:05 : skeletons actually dont block camps, so you can try to make a little efficiency about killing the camp with skellies as the camp is about to respawn, and as the skellies kill the whole camp and move to another place, the camp spawns again and the skellies just kill the camp that they just killed again.

[@buenvidanadz1969]

20:54 that was the cutest request ever lmao

[@deveneb8409]

thanks for doing this, ive been waiting for it since the start lmao

[@janicesileo9107]

Whoopsie-doodle missed another cs. Buy regen? That's for nerds

[@anilakhan1203]

I don't understand that enigma afk farms for 30 mins and then can't get off a black hole in team fight

[@FukUrUsernameRules]

Hey dude, just wanted to say thanks for listening to our comments... unfortunately, as you said during the video, not a good game to illustrate the point you were trying to make. Hope you do another one where your team is actually useless and loses the other lanes. Alternatively, at least a game where you get properly punished in lane. My experience of a hard lane is one where the enemy heroes make it feel impossible to stay in lane without feeding 3+ deaths before the 9 min mark. Honestly felt like that Rubick / Underlord combo could have punished you WAY harder for all the time you spent alone in the lane.

[@WealthBeyondMeasure]

It's almost like Rubick and Underlord are also 3k players 🤔

[@FukUrUsernameRules]

@@WealthBeyondMeasure I've seen 2k players that would have punished him way harder in that situation.

[@alexeidequesada7881]

I am just a human. i see BSJ smurf video and i click

[@motchness]

the banana, the slamma, the motherflippin jamma

[@BrayaanRayan]

In the end Underlord paused just to flame Spectre xD lmao

[@chinguunssi1523]

Finally some new educational smurfing on these newbs lol 😂

[@theartofstealing3482]

Great content my boi! I have been getting people on my team similar to your Enigma a lot recently, and this video has given me a new perspective on how to deal with it.

[@Stickyrolls123]

"omg this guys outplaying me" I died lol

[@jomama3465]

Ngl the most useful tip I got from this was that quiver neutral item actually synergizes with wk's 3rd. Didn't realize that before

[@julesvetter3326]

Thanks for uploading! Picked up some basic mistakes I still do. Learned to respect enemy even in 3k by creep aggro-ing way more, contesting hard camp pulls from the other side of the camp, avoid farming supports by faster and correct rotations. To be honest I only really play WK because it's strong, personally don't like to play that hero. Because of that it makes it hard to enjoy matches on WK in general or to keep trying in losing matches.

[@mohammadtindick713]

"we got ourselves a whip to whip ourselves with, that feels pretty good" - BSJ (2021), 25:23

[@kingkezz9188]

ahahaha i was looking for this comment

[@mohammadtindick713]

@@kingkezz9188 couldn't find it so i did it myself hahahahaha

[@kingkezz9188]

@@mohammadtindick713 XD

[@the7esla989]

@@kingkezz9188 me too lol

[@kingkezz9188]

@@the7esla989 hahahaha

[@joan1045]

I know what i didn't learn from that game, and that's my chemistry lesson for tommorow

[@johnsonaxel8784]

being able to farm deadlane and being able to force rotations to deadlane while taking objectives is what makes WK good.

[@sherwinsebastian7884]

Damn the contents are good. The 50 mins watch is def worth

[@CloudzieGamer]

Bsj with that fresh cut

[@LucasMarodindepaiva]

we always have this enigma in low mmr games

[@DarkJulyHeartless]

Best acting I have ever seen, if there was no commentary I would be 100% sure you were 3k.

[@BaufenBeast]

Nah, because he was canceling attacks to intentionally miss cs. A real 3k would be hitting creeps into deny range.

[@jaycabbab9277]

Learned a lot from this single video BSJ. Thanks!

[@sreeharisg8153]

I hit the like button and came to comment right after he said he will try to be as 3k as he can be xD

[@yahoo8360]

I didn't realize how humorous bsj is HAHAHA

[@jessibeldejesus3104]

that oops cracked me up a little😂

[@maciejokon7419]

Forced reaction concept is probably most significiant idea ive learned this year. Played for few years and didnt worked it out on my own. At situation like 18:30 i would say - "f**k, i havent killed spectre ;/". Now i see you did so well ;)

[@KP-mh7epuz]

Been waiting for this series to come back...Pog

[@samuelellringmann3424]

love the 3k twist! only managed to keep it up for 4 minutes though =(

[@lukasevenson]

BSJ is straight thugging

[@dr.reubenbuthello2866]

Fabulous Buddy.... Loving these educational videos...

[@charbelabounader7009]

Bsj just the best content on utube

[@TheBiomedZed]

I enjoy the content but you barely lost lane, you still had ~80cs by 10 minutes. I know at the highest level not playing optimally for the first 4 minutes can be game deciding, but at lower level this is pretty much fine. I would've hoped you would've lost lane harder, or for like the first 7-10 minutes or just let someone else play for like 5 minutes. Great video none the less, hearing you talk outloud your gameplan is extremely helpful

[@dippn7047]

I mean if we're saying its fine for 3k then he did what he set out to do. But beyond that its a pretty clear indicator that cs is something you should work on if you're average cs matches his "gimping himself" cs

[@MrCokewithice]

just before I watch this video I want to say... when you are a 9k player and you want to perform as a 3k it's fucking hard dude so good luck now time to enjoy

[@ajaysyangden8254]

More educational Smurfs please 🥺

[@looknosee1293]

Ah yes, the classic. Man User with Girl picture, the twitch chat flavour

[@abedeen4072]

Great idea BSJ keep it up very much appreciated

[@earlofthesea]

This deserves a grammy nomination

[@alexmiron3296]

Me: See a 9k carry player into 3k bracket Me:Thinking : Probably another 20kda game Bsj:2-2-1:))

[@wayanc1880]

absolutely wonderful content. love the sarcasm

[@pcxxy]

nice twist to the usual smurf

[@kuzzingo9493]

BSJ is very cool, WOW!