AR Pistol Discussion On Setup and Uses

Nick and Jeff sit down and discuss the rise of the AR Pistols and discuss their setups and whys, potential uses, and issues we see with them at classes.
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[@mattwilliams1818]

Eye roll....”Nick, why...do you have an LVPO? Sigh...” Jeff is killing me! LoL

[@ArmedDynamicsLLC]

Well I mean, I've just had enough of him Matt!

[@mr.excitement689]

I think another reason folks are running ar pistols more often now is to avoid paying the crown it’s 200 dollar tax for the privilege of an sbr.

[@Fudmottin]

Not to mention the travel restrictions and paperwork. My cats' names are none of the ATF's business!

[@brian_b_music]

@@Fudmottin Oh man you ain't lyin' about that!! I was going to shell out the money for my tax stamp and get an sbr, until I read all of the fine print. I decided to pick up an SBA 3 and I'm working on my pistol build. I don't want to call the ATF everytime I want to move an SBR from one room to another 😂

[@Fudmottin]

@@brian_b_music Roger that! It gets worse though. You can take a pistol upper and put it on a rifle lower and you are suddenly a felon! WTF kind of BS is that? We need to kill the NFA.

[@brian_b_music]

@@Fudmottin oh I know, isn't that crazy? I don't know true it is, but I had someone tell me that if you got pulled over with a rifle lower and pistol upper on you, even if they aren't pinned together they can still get you.

[@Fudmottin]

@@brian_b_music IANAL, but I believe they can nail you for "constructive intent". So the way to go is have a 16+ inch upper on your lower and your pistol upper on a proper pistol lower. If they are pinned together that way, it should be more difficult to prove constructive intent or intent to violate firearms laws under NFA. That said, I don't know if the ATF will suddenly reclassify any given pistol brace as a stock and try to nail you for that. I mean they did reclassify bump stocks as machine guns even though they do not fit the legal definition.

[@alexanderdunbar8659]

I have a 7.5in barrel AR Pistol and it feels fine and training with it works fine as well.

[@jpeezie3192]

Jeffs the man. He’s that friend you ask one question about something and he will tell you who what when where why and how! Fucken love it! 🤙

[@pmor5992]

for indoor/home defense I switched to the blast forwarding linear compensator many years ago I find it interesting to see you youngsters rediscovering their benefits , I like to say even if I don't hit you with the 1st round , you will be deaf , burned , blind and suddenly remembering that you NEED to be somewhere else , great stuff guys ;-)

[@ST-dd6ny]

I didn't hear a lot of people complaining about the reliability on the 10.5, specially from PSA. Mine is a PSA 10.5 with no malfunctions so far either.

[@Fudmottin]

Cool. I got a PSA 10.5 upper with their BCG. I'm currently building a lower for it. It's my first AR pistol.

[@markbennettjr]

Love that Jeff is silently judging every word for grammar, and has a constant look of"ah.. whatever... bullet kill bad guy"

[@tyreeballard]

that part!

[@johnneill5960]

I like a 12.5 in pistol it is kind of a happy medium. You don't lose as much dwell time & still get a '4 in drop on that barrel from that 16 in carbine barrel which is huge . If you choose to throw a can on there you can drop a '6 in one & it brings you to around 18-18.5 in which isn't ridiculous . I'm still waiting on someone to do a review on the SBA4 brace . 👀

[@sluggak1363]

I have a sbm4 as long as u can put it on his great but make sure when you put it on you got to where you want cuz it ain't coming off

[@johnneill5960]

Slugga k1 I just picked up the SBA4 Brace this last weekend & it's very nice . If I had one complaint with it I'd say I guess it's a bit heavy , but it really is the closest thing to a stock I've seen yet in a brace . Has perfect QD detach points & 5 slide adjustments that glide well . Overall it's very good .

[@jzaden10]

I built my ar pistol all ordered every part and love it!!! Its chambered in 300 blackout and I use it for everything well truck gun slash home defense but its built to my accustome. Nice video guys👍👍

[@matthewdropco]

I appreciated the 98% about the gun & gear for this video, but I really appreciate the closing 2% about getting reputable training. So important!

[@HYPNSK8ER012]

12.5" master race. Good to see Chef Bluesman again!

[@underratedcritic1983]

7" Noveske master race... 600 fps muzzle velocity. Accurate out to 90 meters.

[@sowhat4274]

I just bought a Wilson Combat protector series 11.3” in 5.56. It’s fun, functional and f’ing gorgeous.

[@starbwoy]

Can you have the law tactical folder stock adapter on a AR Pistol without running into any legality issues? Someone please answer this question?

[@PracticallyTactical]

Yes.

[@PrayingPanda]

The Amber reticles are for color blind folks who are unable to see red or green well

[@geerts016]

I like the sling through the brace. I’ve been struggling with the sling on the end plate and trying to make it work. I feel a little dumb that I didn’t see it on my own.

[@NestorNegronDiaz]

My 9mm AR Pistol got me three security gigs during Hurricane María's aftermath in Puerto Rico. I'm still working in one of them. Sure it's not a rifle substitute but sharing mags with G17 is nice.

[@jacobmanalang8162]

yeah it is! same mags and ammo for both? that is VERY nice. nothing wrong with simple

[@joquin4618]

How do u guys buy guns over there? I heard you can’t and u have to “smuggle” them in! I grew up in P.R. And never saw gun-stores like in most of the states. Hope all is well and take care boricua brother!

[@NestorNegronDiaz]

@@joquin4618 Gun laws here are basically same as usa.

[@NestorNegronDiaz]

@@joquin4618 Federal gun laws, 2nd Ammendment, ATF, etc. Puerto Rico is a shall issue state. We do have 100% Gun registration. There is no magazine capacity limmits.

[@joquin4618]

Nestor Negron-Diaz thanks for the update! Hope all is well man.

[@belayasmert9943]

i have no issues with my psa 10.5 pistol.

[@truthistreason9708]

Chrome lined or just CMV?

[@belayasmert9943]

@@truthistreason9708 cmv. And for 10.5 ,556 its runs no FTF OR FTE . put h2 buffer with a Franklin med buffer spring. Put 1200 rds thus far. 1.5 " to 2" groups at a 100yds. Using wallyworld white box 55 grainers.

[@stevenmatthews8981]

I also have a PSA 10.5” in 5.56 and have no issues either and also love it👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@saturnynetitan]

Yeah I eye-rolled at that idiotic Palmetto State Armory comment at the beginning and almost checked out, but watched until the end. Decent video.

[@goggleboy2464]

@@stevenmatthews8981 my buddy has a psa 8.5. zero issues

[@plrodrig123]

look into the Speer Gold Dot 75gr SP rounds. They work well in barrels shorter than 16"

[@6.5mm_is_the_best_mm]

Peak pressure happens in the first inch or so of a barrel or before the bullet has began moving. Short barrels will not increase throat erosion. They do not increase pressure. Pressure drops faster due to short gas tube run and barrel length. You will experience higher pressure at the muzzle because pressure curve is still quite high when the bullet is 7.5-11.5" down the barrel. I guess you would put more wear on the gas block and journal, but is this an issue for most shooters? I can't afford to wear out an AR since I would be spending all of my money on ammo.

[@thedowntrodden1522]

I run tlr-1 on my pistols and my rifles because I like knowing how my light works no matter what kind of gun I'm using it on it's the same activation

[@kevinroberts781]

I want one! I want to get a 22 upper to go with the 5.56 just for fun plinking around!

[@philbiagi721]

Get a 22 conversion kit

[@xraycam3709]

@@philbiagi721 getting a 22 upper is much better - doesn't cost much more than a conversion insert "kit", and more reliable... Don't need to worry about fouling your 5.56/223 gas tube or barrel.

[@jacobmanalang8162]

you gotta take into consideration the shooter. not everyone is normal size so stubby or less strong shooters can handle a lot better with a shorter lighter gun. 11.5 no suppressor on a pistol with sba-3 imo is a VERY good setup all around. muzzle device consideration is huge especially on non suppressed. i think the recoil eliminating comps are the way to go overall for most people. having ear pro that is quick to throw on nearby is definitely a recommendation i really do like the light at 12:o clock sling setup is personal preference. i prefer a fixed brace to adjustable because its the same everytime BUT adjustable is very nice for when you need to change it up. parts preference is subjective. you could make an entire video series on what you SHOULD get vs what you DO get for your money and usage. variable optic is very nice i like to have irons or buis on all mine. outstanding vid gentlemen

[@BoTTRecords]

That up-front, grabby thing is called a “quad rail.” There is nothing that will silence an AR. That silencer thingy is called a “suppressor.” I had to turn it off after that.

[@PracticallyTactical]

You are literally wrong on everything. Neither of us are running a quad rail. And since you have never bought a silencer... they are actually called that. You’d know that if you ever filled out a form 1 or 4 (depending now if you made or bought) or a form 3 (dealer to dealer). They are classified and called a silencer.

[@johnmckinney1493]

Just got my first "pistol", psa 10.5 upper but aero lower and an sda3. Love the flash can.

[@ST-dd6ny]

They say anything less than 11.5" can have a higher failure rate, did you have any? I think they're are thinking about other brands. I don't think PSA has any failure rate on the 10.5" if you use the right ammo.

[@johnmckinney1493]

Only good brass. 55 to70gr

[@olysean92]

SBA3 is a great brace. I have it on my 1st pistol build. The near zero recoil of the compensated 5.56 works fine with the squishy rubber brace. However, the higher recoil of the 50 Beowulf (think .8 oz shotgun slug out of a 10.5" barrel) made fast follow up shots rough. Enter Gear Head Works Tailhook. Fully adjustable on their proprietary buffer tube & rigid polymer. Problem solved.

[@paulhughes3961]

10.5 .300 BLK Out PSA upper and lower Rosco barrel PSA BCG Rise Armament single stage trigger, O Light PL2 Valkyrie and a KAK blast forward muzzle device. MOA at 100 yards.

[@calebneff5777]

Jeff has the dismissive douche bit down perfectly 😂 it’s hilarious

[@conorfoster2337]

Simple Green makes an aluminum friendly formula you can order cheap off amazon just fyi.

[@ArmedDynamicsLLC]

Thanks dude! I just looked up their entire product line. Holy shit they make a lot of stuff. I had no idea.

[@trav7843]

I love this channel so much. No bs, good discussion and awesome gear.

[@fishrrelaxing9361]

On those ambi selectors.. just turn the other side upside down and it won’t get in the way of your trigger finger if you’re cheap like I am.. if you’re not cheap spend $10 and get the blank cap for the back side lol.

[@TooManyChoices1]

I just grind the right side down to the proper length lol.

[@jhalscott]

Just found this channel. Not sure how I missed it for so long. Great content and banter. Subscribed.

[@JS-.-]

Those cloud defense lights look like a side mounted mini grenade launcher....I bet they are quality though!

[@blwngt1598]

They really are some good lights. I honestly can't remember ever running into any Cloud Defensive product that wasn't a way above average quality piece. Their OWLs also already have a trick switch setup incorporated into it as well. Modlite also make some top notch lights as well & worth looking into.

[@jonesperkins1382]

I'm getting to the point with my CQB AR. I'm only running pistol lights on them. I wanted to be compatible with whatever my sidearm is I would like to be able to pull the light off my sidearm put it on my rifle and vice-versa whether it is an AR pistol or an AR carbine

[@kdubb11]

7.5” makes perfect sense in 9mm or 300 blackout. If 9mm is good enough for the hk mp5 it’s good enough for my 9mm sbr!

[@unclephill4764]

17:45. Looks to jesus* "nope, not a word"

[@myakka1928]

These two guys are really complimenting each other and if you are just getting into the ar ‘s...don’t watch this! It will be useless to you. Come Back when you know as much as they do..Really impressing each other...WTH...They are sooooo smart! If I were to rate this 1 to 10...oOH LET ME GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT. WOW...!!

[@MarRub12]

Nancy Miller I came here to listen the pros and cons of AR Pistol set ups and most I saw and heard was what they use for their hardware...

[@SheepDogNumber6]

Gearheadworks mod 2 on my 10.5 FTW.

[@clamum]

Great discussion guys, thanks!

[@oldskoolj23]

Can you put a Magpul cheek riser on the SBA3 Brace?

[@lundy75]

Haha, Jeff blocked me on Instagram a while back because I expressed my opinion that I thought John McCain was not a war hero as we were all supposed to believe. Nothing to do with this topic. Just a fun fact. #sensative

[@JohnnyBGoode-xb6cs]

Absolutely right. McCain was a sellout who abandoned the MIA's of 'Nam. Do some research. Him and John Kerry really did them wrong. Fake hero.

[@A2DaZ210]

The sba4 adjustable brace just got released.

[@matthewbeaver5026]

@Jon McClure good to know, I wondered if I was missing out gettin the 3 3 was so much cheaper cuz the 4 had just been released when I got mine

[@mattsterpiecenjmaflva9956]

The amber dot is for people who are color blind

[@Fudmottin]

Didn't see that one coming!

[@chanceth5957]

Fudmottin maybe because you’re colorblind. Like me. I haven’t tried either difference so I’m curious if I would notice a difference!

[@Fudmottin]

@@chanceth5957 I'm not colorblind. I have a Trijicon with amber dot. To avoid washing out, it has a polarizing filter on front. The human eye is most sensitive to the green area of the light spectrum. I'm not sure why red is used, but I would speculate that it was to avoid harming night vision. It could also be because solid state LEDs and lasers were first practical in the red color.

[@mr.excitement689]

What do you guys think of the Geissele charging handles ability to redirect excess gases on suppressed ar pistols?

[@PracticallyTactical]

Haven't used one, have no feedback on it.

[@ontarget1312]

Should I be concerned or what should I pay attention to with a 10.3" Daniel Defense barrel and an adjustable gas block?

[@PracticallyTactical]

Im not a fan of adjustable gas block..if its wrong..rifle can NOT function. But if it works, keep running it. Hopefully in training classes.

[@ontarget1312]

@@PracticallyTactical I did the adjustable so I can dictate the amount of gas when running a can, but also because of the shorter length barrel.

[@fredmeebley]

OnTarget 13 load 1 round each into multiple mags, go to an outdoor range on one of the coldest days of the year. Make sure you get bolt hold open after emptying each mag. If not, open the gas port adjustment a little. Once you are satisfied with the adjustment, blue loctite is your friend.

[@cagrangersealninja3720]

I want my home defense rifle to breathe fire and wake up the neighborhood 👍

[@Turtl-ss4lj]

Delta RangerSealNinja sounds like something John Lovell would say. Lol

[@itsyaboimat2393]

50 beawolf with a dead armament pyro and your golden lol

[@Turtl-ss4lj]

GimpGunfighter 50 Beowulf guys unite!

[@colopatironxv]

It IS something John Lovell has said.

[@MassaSnowshi]

@@colopatironxv Was gonna say, I swear I was watching his video and he said that.

[@mr.excitement689]

With regard to .300 black out- do you guys have a favorite barrel length?

[@PracticallyTactical]

8.5" to 10"..but that depends on what ammo you are running..subs or supers?

[@mr.excitement689]

Practically Tactical probably a mix of both. I picked up a Springfield saint victor in a 9 inch barrel. Haven’t shot it yet.

[@pbh07]

If I have a 16 inch barrel with a brace, *no stock*, IS IT A PISTOL??? YES OR NO...

[@sowhat4274]

No, it’s a riffle with a brace.

[@twissted1277]

I RUN A 10.5'' BARREL IN 300 BLKOUT.

[@TacticalTack]

What do you think of going 12.5 over 11.5? How about profile, .625 or 750?

[@PracticallyTactical]

do whatever you want. Doesn't matter too much.

[@jacobmanalang8162]

11.5 or 12.5 is a wash depending on muzzle device, handguard, and sights. its really what you find comfortable in hand...plus your brace or whatever .750 used to be the choice if you may suppress, .625 for lightweight. these days pretty much even if you have a can .625 on an 11.5 is the choice.

[@10MinutestoRouletteFortune]

JP industries yellow trigger spring................trust me!!

[@50StichesSteel]

So I dont know why it took me this long to think about but since these are considered pistols does that not mean we can finally deer hunt with them in states where we couldnt use a semi auto rifle? I would love to hear peoples opinions and maybe first hand experiences

[@PracticallyTactical]

Typically, most state are caliber restricted not firearm restricted (other than bow season, black powder, etc).

[@50StichesSteel]

@@PracticallyTactical I was thinking of using a 300 BLK pistol..So 30 cal should be good, just wondering on the semi auto part

[@johnneill5960]

I live in TX & we use 300 Black to take wild hogs all the time so IDK why you wouldn't take a deer with it . I wouldn't hesitate to take a deer here in TX with the right .556 round ( say a (69-77 boat tail hollow point ) & it's perfectly legal here . Different states have different rules on that .

[@conorfoster2337]

The .50 Beowulf meme guns finally have a purpose

[@iamsam369]

Just do what you want no one cares.

[@andrewmartin468]

I think the amber dot was designed for people who are color blind and can not see the red or green dot.

[@InvidiousIgnoramus]

I don't understand this snobbery so many people have about PSA products.

[@rkashsggeggr6285]

What about guys with a shorter reach

[@fook-joby-den6172]

My hd and travel pistol is a 11.5”5.56 Noveske and BCM respectively. The BCM has a flaw tactical folder and the Noveske will soon be a two stamper since it Doesn’t leave my house unless going to range. I’m wanting a 12.5” 6.5 Grendel for a compact hunting rig and was thinking with a lighter ninety grain round with a faster burning powder might be a nice addition to diversify n have the option for a compact defensive and hunting that has as much energy transfer as twenty inch five five six rifle. Any ideas on a good load for the six five in that barrel length ?

[@-Savage-]

Amazingly awkward. 👍😅

[@matthewbeaver5026]

I just can't see runnin 5.56 in these short barrels, to much velocity lost 2100fps is what most 7.5in 5.56 will get you, 10.5in mayb 2500fps (which is the minimum for fragmentation/tumbling) 2100fps is the same velocity I get out of my 10.5in 7.62x39 at least it's a .30 cal whole with ammo that's just as cheap as 5.56 (.300BO seems like a good option but it's expensive, and w/o suppressing you don't get the return in investment)

[@itsmegator1019]

Don't use m193 in a short barrel then. Their are plenty of rounds designed around short barrel 5.56 guns that don't rely purely on velocity to do their job. They mentioned doctor gary roberts if there is any one person to listen to on planet earth on terminal ballistics he is it.

[@JohnnyBGoode-xb6cs]

I don't want to get hit by any ammo, no matter the barrel length. I run 62 grain softpoints.

[@drakeaamold3401]

God is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@southernviking3113]

Ol boy is gonna have a permanent frown lol nice video thanks!!

[@TheSmokeychris2000]

Isn't that LPVO discontinued.

[@deathdler8226]

ITS A BRACE!!!!! Not a stock 😂

[@chrisduncan3449]

You hate single point attachments ? Really ?

[@operatormac7960]

Trigger job 😏

[@E-ROCK0180]

GuNz R kool cause ThEy Go pEw pEw

[@fosty.]

This is true

[@thomaspounds9031]

That red dot is way too far back on the gun.