AR Wing Pro Groundstation Setup

A few people asked me to share my ground station setup that I use for my AR Wing Pro FPV proximity flying, so here it is.

[@SILVIOFRANCO1]

Thanks a lot, Glenn. Good ground stuff and awesome inverteds. 140 km/h is fast, man!

[@bluefish3607]

Cheers Silvio, we have the good weather now, I hope all is good with you.

[@ttucker2073]

Hey Glenn. Hope all good. Not done to much flying myself but now have a strix goblin that I’m waiting to test on 6s. Had 184mph on 4s lion 😮. But yeh, hope your all good as no content for a while.

[@bluefish3607]

Hi, yes all good here, I retired in May and have been doing a lot of travelling this summer hence not much content. The weather is pretty shitty now so flying will be a bit hit and miss for a while. I flew a friends T1 Ranger in Germany during the summer and was so impressed I just ordered one. You Goblin sounds like a beast, drop me a message with a link I would like to see that in the air. Have a great Xmas

[@ttucker2073]

@@bluefish3607 yes will do mate. Glad to hear your ok and as for travelling 👌🏻👊🏻. I would love to go travelling but with 4 kids, youngest being 6, not an option for me yet. Aswell as funds😂 I also have a t1 and love it. 1507 4150kv Brotherhobby motors. 4x4x3 props. 40a Skystars talon esc’s. Flys well. Maybe bigger motors could be better but it likes high kv. Or I like to fly high kv 😂 4s1p p42 lion pack is what I use in it. Would love a t2 but very expensive, maybe when they drop. Will send you some stuff on the goblin when I go 6s. I also have a alpha stike that flys fast and well. Will link you with that to. And yes shitty weather in the uk, so not done much flying. Good luck with the travelling if you still are. Will be in touch. Terry

[@staydown.normal5323]

what size is the brother hobby motor and prop i have seen alot of people change to the brother hobby its 5-8s. what kv you using and prop?

[@marcnowalinski9406]

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[@fritzbender5916]

Fantastic. Thanks for the video. Just recently had my maiden on the AR Pro and unfortunately ripped out the motor during the landing. Next time with ESC brake on 😅

[@bluefish3607]

Yup I have done that a few times, I replace the stock wooden motor mount with a 3D printed version which is much more duarable, ESC brake is a must.

[@fritzbender5916]

@@bluefish3607 may I asked how you fixed the 3D printed replacement part to the model? Did you just glue is? Hot glues or something else? Thanks in advance for the information.

[@bluefish3607]

@@fritzbender5916 The mount I use still uses the two screws and I apply a little E600 glue to the locating pins.

[@staydown.normal5323]

the motor mount breaks it you dont glue it in good/ use gorilla glue white foaming and damp the back with water to activate the glue like the package says

[@staydown.normal5323]

there are a few 3d mounts on thingiverse. I have a guy 3d print me a few

[@fpvkagge]

Im still flying with a gopro to get 1080p..do u need 1 with 03 airunit?

[@39regionrc43]

Buddy, when do you have a review on Sonicmodell Baby AR Wing Pro?

[@bluefish3607]

I don't think I will be getting that plane I am not keen on smaller planes they don't perform well in wind and where I live its often windy

[@Elijahhuckaby]

Got my wing up in the air..and when I was turning. It went down fast into the ground..Nothing is wrong with it! But how can it be? Lack of power. Lack of steering, lack of speed?

[@bluefish3607]

Maybe it tip stalled they do not like turning with low throttle especially if it weighs more than 1300 grams

[@davidn7795]

Hi BlueFish, I am struggling with my AR Wing Pro and Autolaunch. Can you share some settings. Or maybe explanation on how to figure out the settings. Whats a good Idle Throttle setting and launch throttle setting? I have 3 failed Autolaunch attempts with resulting repairs. And I am fishing for Tupps/Settings/Rules. Best Regards

[@bluefish3607]

Hi David What is your setup, motor, prop lipo, FC, ESC and inav version? Do you have any video or DVR of your launches? What method are you trying, overhead etc? My launch idle throttle is 1500 and launch tyhrottle 1900.

[@davidn7795]

@@bluefish3607 Hi BlueFish Lipo: 3200 4S LiPo FC: Matek F405 WMN (Worked fine on a smaler Dart250g) (I am doing this Hobby fresh, maybe Apr I updated INAV to the latest Version 6.1 if I remember right) ESC: Default ESC Died in one of the crashes - now I putted in a cheap Amazon 40A ESC - A better one is on the way HobbyWing SkyWalker 40A BEC V2 Motor: Default one - In the last Troubleshooting I found that on one position there is friction to the bell, and he got a bit of stutter on different rpms so I ordered a new one - SunnySky X2216 1400Kv Prop: 8x5 Default Prop at first now 8x5 from Graupner - 8x4.5 Aeronaut Props are on the way. I have DVR from one of the missed launches. But its short and I think I did the overhead throw wrong. Frisby Technik was also not working. I looked into a Throwing Video from Marc With C. And he is throwing it without any force, just to guide the plane. I think I have thrown it with much of power. Maybe thats the reason. I will try overhead and Frisby method again like marc but with less force I will repair the AR Wing. Check CG, Center Elevons 2mm higer off center, High five test on Remote and if they react right in horizon mode. Everythink like every guide says. Maybe do a Hive test to figure out the Throttle to push the waight of the Plane. What are yout INAV Lauch settings For Idle and launch throttle? Any Rule of thumb? Any tipps what could else be wrong ? Thanks in advance BR David

[@gunjafpv]

Out of interest what's the max speed you getting with the AR Pros?

[@hendmei7066]

Приветствую мой друг из Сибири , какой комплект у тебя установлен на этом крыле мотор пропеллер ?

[@bluefish3607]

White and blue and blue and black both have Sunnysky MkIII 2216 1400kv, with APC 8x4.5 prop. Black and grey has Brotherhobby Reunion 2318 1250kv with Aeronaut Cam Carbon Lit 9x5 prop. Both on 4S 5000mah cnhl lipos.

[@fpv_wing]

Hello Friend how are you? Your videos are very good, but I want to ask you why your take-offs never come out straight? It's like you always have to correct a lot to find your way. A simple observation to help you. Thank you

[@fpv_wing]

Have you tried side throw?

[@bluefish3607]

Hi Thank you for pointing that out, you are absolutely correct, I have improved but 50% of the time the launches go sideways. I think it must be something to do with my throwing technique because the setup of the planes remains the same. Some people critisize me for doing the overhead launch but I did not have much success with the side arm throw. I think I need to concentrate and focus a little more on my launch technique so I can perfect it.

[@fpv_wing]

@@bluefish3607 Hi buddy! It's just to give me perfection and security because the rest is all very good, another option would be to use Throtle idle on the lateral throw, but I understand if you don't feel comfortable. As always thanks for your videos!! I have my next Ar wing to release it and I will share my experience. Greetings from Argentina

[@bluefish3607]

@@fpv_wing I will give the side arm launch another try. Best wishes for your AR Pro build and maiden. I will look out for the video on your channel 👍

[@EvgeniySky63]

Hello! Really like your content, I have arwing pro too, I want to use inav 6.1 on it. I have a question, do you use a magnetometer on the wing with inav firmware? If so, is there any effect of magnets on the hoods? Is there a problem with horizon drift now? Did the servos fail during autotune? Thank you!

[@bluefish3607]

Hi, I dson't use the mag it's not required with inav when you have GPS, not sure what you mean by hoods? Horizon drift has been eliminated in 6.0 no horizon drift now. No servo failure during Autotune.

[@EvgeniySky63]

@@bluefish3607 Thank you very much, I meant the magnets of the compartment covers. But I also decided that I would not use a magnetometer. All the best! Thanks for your reply!

[@bluefish3607]

@@EvgeniySky63 Ah yes I get you now. Not had any issues with those cover magnets.

[@staydown.normal5323]

the fc has the magnetometer built in lol

[@bluefish3607]

@@staydown.normal5323 Which FC are you using?

[@opposedforces]

Love your videos sir. Quick question, are you NOT flying with the MyFlyDream Crossbow Mini tracker anymore? I did not see it listed or showcased in your set up?

[@bluefish3607]

I gave up on it as I could not get it to work reliably or consistently.

[@opposedforces]

@@bluefish3607 Oh man, that is unfortunate. It seems like most people like it. I am/was seriously considering buying one as I really do like flying longer range much the same as you do. Any chance you can elaborate on what the unreliable parts are/were? Did it have to do with telemtry, wireless or bluetooth? Do you still have the unit? Have you thought about selling it? I'd probably be interested if it could be shipped reasonably to me here in California.... Sure would like to know at what point you thre in the towell on it, so I can perhaps rethink my strategy. Have you thought about the Sentinel ? Thanks for your replies sir. Much appreciated.

[@DugDiamond1]

hi. i noticed that you have O3, and using the gopro6. isn't the O3 better than the gopro6 !!! what is your experience with footage at maximum capable settings for both cameras?

[@bluefish3607]

Hi Dug to be really honest I have not had enough time yet to really test the O3 camera for recording footage in comparison to the GoPro. Using cameras to get good footage is something I really need to put some more time and effort into as there is a heck of a lot I need to learn. I have done some very brief comparisons with GoPro and O3 footage both satbilised with Gyroflow and the GoPro footage imo came out on top. One of the issues with the O3 camera as i see it is that when you make changes for getting better footage it also changes the in flight experience, whereas with my GoPro I can set that however I like and have the O3 setup to give me the best in Goggle experience. My AR Pro's are also setup for CG with the GoPro up front and I don't want to use dead weight. All that said I am building Mini Drak that I intend to use only the O3 camera so I will be doing everything possible to get the best in flight and footage balance. I am just not there yet. Sorry I could not be more helpful my friend.

[@lesleyanderson2986]

Hi I just wondered if you will be getting the Baby AR Wing Pro? I have one on order as like you I love my AR Wing Pro.

[@bluefish3607]

Hi Lesley, tbh I don't think I am going to get one. I generally find that small light planes are a bit finnicky in wind and where I live there is generally always some wind. I got a dart 250G 3 years ago and hardly ever fly it. My AR Pro's are pretty heavy at 1.6Kg and that gives them some better stability and I like the way they feel on trhe sticks even in 10-15 mph winds. But please let me know how you get on with the baby I could be swayed. 😀

[@Jkauppa]

wont you include three or more radio localization stands

[@Jkauppa]

yep its a ground mount mimo antenna array, for various things

[@bluefish3607]

Not sure what you mean tbh?

[@Jkauppa]

@@bluefish3607 want really long range radio and localization, without gps, quick deployable mini ground station radio masts

[@Jkauppa]

@@bluefish3607 remove gps and have a long range target, but still be able to use fpv, then you know, very similar to using local 4g/5g cell network, but you host your own, not relying on either gps or local cell network

[@Jkauppa]

@@bluefish3607 in military situations you dont have either, thats why, main usage

[@gregorydobson4307]

Great info & flight footage glenn. I also still have my terannis tx. No plans to change as its still serves me well. 😊

[@bluefish3607]

Thanks Greg, I couldn’t agree more, I love mine and cannot see any reason to change. It fits me like a glove and works perfectly.

[@ttucker2073]

Hi Glenn. Hope your all good. Weather has been crap for flying here in the uk hasn’t it. Just seeing if your all good mate 👍🏻

[@bluefish3607]

Hi I am really well but getting a bit of cabin fever stuck in the house with all this terrible weather. Hopefully the weather will be better for my 10 day flying trip to Germany from August 10th.

[@ttucker2073]

@@bluefish3607 ahh yes, will soon be here and hopefully weather is good for you to. Safe travels and hope you have some good flights 👍🏻

[@cozzy206]

Great stuff