Arcade Stick Buying Guide Before PS5 Release 2020

[@MrSuwaidiSama]

Hori 7:04 Madcatz 12:59 Mayflash 17:10 Qanba 20:10 Razer 25:11 Victrix 29:02 HitBox 32:25 Etokki 33:44 Etokki is amazing!

[@JoystickNY]

Khalifa Al Suwaidi wow thank you so much. 🙏🙏❤️❤️ thank you for taking the time to type it, appreciate you

[@sufyankhalid9346]

Razer panthera or qanba obsidian is also

[@QwikDa1st]

Khalifa Al Suwaidi You’re a legend! TY!!!

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you for watching ❤️🙏

[@imohbalu]

@@JoystickNY Hi can you please suggest fightstick from aliexpress. Because I don't think amazon sends items to my country.

[@MarkMan23]

I love watching videos like this where people talk about all the arcade sticks and their thoughts on them. Thanks for sharing. I was happy to see lots of the arcade sticks I worked on featured in the video.

[@JoystickNY]

MarkMan23 HEY i seen you in videos and interviews. Great to see you Mr MarkMan, thank you for dropping by, Its an honor. 🙏🙏🙏

[@IxianMace]

In my case, it's quite simple. I've got a Hori Real Arcade Pro V and will probably use it until it breaks because I only play on PC. I didn't need to do anything special to get it to work; I just plug it in and it's good to go.

[@JoystickNY]

IxianMace nice ❤️🙏🕹 you have the red one for the switch?

[@IxianMace]

@@JoystickNY No, I have the black one for Xbox 360/Xbox One/PC.

[@JoystickNY]

IxianMace thats a good stick, i love hori RAP Series 👍🕹❤️🙏

[@KaizAmari]

for PC, i dont worried much since the compatibility is endless,...consoles however only last until the generation of the consoles

[@JoystickNY]

Nep-tune Pro very true, the beauty of the pc and steam, i dont have a good pc right now. Hoping to pick up 1 in the near future when diablo 4 comes out 🙏 thank you for watching

[@OmnipotentPeaceMan]

Great video, I made my own fight stick, I am very happy with it, but I can't wait for the PS5 to release so we can get new fight sticks!

[@JoystickNY]

OmnipotentPeaceMan me too, i am excited to see what they got for us ❤️🙏

[@misterkeebler]

Nice vid! I wanted to add one more advice for people; consider buying mid-range and premium fightsticks used on Ebay or craigslist. Fightsticks are durable in general, and the sticks and buttons are easily exchanged. You can easily find a premium stick for a midrange pricing, and midrange sticks under $100. I wouldnt buy something like a Qanba Drone or Hori mini used only because the knockoff parts tend to break faster, and you might end up spending your savings on just quickly replacing parts shortly after purchase.

[@JoystickNY]

misterkeebler love it ❤️👍 i was actually planning to make a video on used sticks too, maybe down the road when i make more modding video. Thank you for sharing 🙏

[@yocyber5711]

Very Informative! My advice tho is just look for any fightstick that's over $100 from name brands like hori, qanba, razer, etc and try to look for them on sale any time you get online. Typically anything you get over $100 is gonna be great regardless of whatever parts they use. Alternatively, you could go to local arcades and find some fightsticks there. If you're lucky, maybe you'll find an arcade stick at stores like TJ Max, or Ross where they get their clothes and stuff from other stores that didn't sell those items. That's where I picked up a hori soulcalibur vi xbox one fightstick for $42. If you're not picky, you'll definitely have no trouble finding a fightstick in the $100+ price range.

[@JoystickNY]

Good advice, thank you for sharing ❤️🙏

[@junkyryan138]

Hori Fighting Edge is well worth the price for its extraordinary comfiness. The shape, height and wrist space on this thing is PERFECT

[@JoystickNY]

junkyRyan138 its does look really cool, i guess i was judging on value, sometimes its hard to put a price on comfort and style ❤️🙏

[@mimowryyyn8637]

I've been using my Qanba Obsidian for about four months now, and I love it! Prior to my purchase, my friend was letting me use his Razer Panthera, which also felt really nice. I have to say though, the easy access to the inside was a nice feature of the Panthera that I kind of miss. Still, I'm glad I got the stick that I did. Unmodded, it plays and feels really nice. At the very least, now I have a reference to look back on, if I ever feel the need to get another stick. Thanks for this video! On a side note: the aforementioned friend also has a Hori RAP4 that he converted to a HitBox layout. He says it works amazingly when playing Tetris.

[@JoystickNY]

Mimowryyyn thank you for sharing 🙏❤️although the easy access feature is a plus, its not really necessary, because people dont really open it up that much anyway, but the obsidian is a great choice👍🕹

[@xdragon2k]

When the thumbnail says Fight Stick, I thought we're talking about Bo Staff.

[@JoystickNY]

xdragon2k 😂👍❤️ very close lol, maybe even light sabre. 🙏 thank you for watching

[@epiceric27]

Heya Joystick, I just wanted to say that from a guy who came across your channel knowing next to nothing about arcade sticks, I wanted to make the leap and your channel has helped so so much! I was overjoyed to find a channel that specializes in it! Thanks for all you do, can't wait to see your subscribers grow!

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you for the kind words, i will continue to do my best ❤️🙏

[@phantomblack5307]

I was looking for this video for weeks now thank you , your guide was very helpfull

[@JoystickNY]

Frank Wilmans glad it was help, 🙏 thank you for watching ❤️

[@cburks6207]

Super informative, thank you! Thinking about making the jump to a stick and this has helped out what to get a ton

[@JoystickNY]

C Burks thank you so much 🙏🙏

[@Brqinstorm]

What did you get ?

[@eronmane]

thanks for the guide i have been playing tekken for the first time this week and i couldn't find video like this thank you for taking the time to help us out.

[@JoystickNY]

Astrro glad it was helpful, thank you for watching 🙏

[@caseykim1293]

I appreciate the precautions on the various alternatives/before you buy/potential savings before you got into details on the arcade sticks. 👍

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you for the support 🙏❤️

[@thejeff5010]

This comment is to feed the algorithm. Thanks for the video!

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you so much , appreciate you ❤️🙏

[@stuartharrison2896]

i hear what you saying joystickNY,i just picked up a xbox one t.e.2 brand new for £55.works on windows after downloading drivers,got a bargain.hope it will work on new gen.keep up the good work.

[@JoystickNY]

stuart harrison thank you ❤️🙏 i heard some 1 told me all xbox controller should work on all xbox version, hope that is true.

[@HystericalHuntress]

Most fight sticks are easily converted to Brook UFB setups later on down the road, and adapters and such also always get released. Also PC players don't even have to worry about next gen console stuff. I'd say if you want something, as long as it supports modding (especially PCB modding) go ahead and do it. If you want to build your own, definitely go ahead and do it. You can convert the PCB later and soak up all the savings now when everything is marked down. Also Tekken and SF will be sticking around for at least a couple of years once next gen consoles drop, especially Tekken. That's been made pretty clear with both of those games. The only next gen FG we know we're gonna get right now is GG Strive and I suppose also KoF 15. Everything else is up in the air. I'd say if you really want to buy or build a setup, do it. Don't let next gen consoles scare you off.

[@JoystickNY]

Deluge FGC i think most people just dont want to deal with the DIY now, and then having to DIY again when the ps5 comes out, i get what you mean tho, i think these days people just dont have the time, when they have time, theres family stuff, kids, school, work to do. Sometimes just buying will save so much headache and time. As much as i love tekken 7 and sf5, and i want a new version,i agree with you, its probably going to be a while. I am waiting for guilty gear, gran blue fantasy, and kof15. 🙏 thank you for watching, and thank you for sharing your thoughts

[@HystericalHuntress]

@@JoystickNY T8 and SF6 are a while off, same with MK12, but we'll see a lot of new games earlier into next-gen for sure. KoF15 and GG Strive are the big two I can think of. Also yeah, modding isn't for everyone but a lot of people into arcade sticks tend to enjoy it, myself included. Brook UFBing a stick is a lot easier than it used to be with all the headers included, you don't even need to solder anymore. I mainly just like the prices. I got my RAP N for barely over $100 and then I put a Brook UFB I snagged for $55 in it, a set of 8 Crown 202MX 30mm buttons, a 24mm Seimitsu PS-14(tactile click) for the Options button, and also bought a whole new top panel. I got a plexi too, put some art between the custom top panel, cut the plexi hole to 35mm (the panel I bought was a 35mm hole mount for Korean levers) and screwed it down. .boom. Now I have a Fujin III (had a Fanta before it) lever in here to go with the 202MX buttons and this is honestly my dream setup paired with the UFB. The RAP N is a very sturdy stick, it's an absolute tank. The aftermarket panel and the plexi makes the collar only lightly protrude through the top, so it's still visible but it's super low profile like on the Omni which I like. The buttons sit nice, I got custom art, a lag free board that works with all consoles and my options button for pausing and such has a unique tactile feel which I love. I wouldn't trade this stick for anything in the world, I put risers on the back of the stick pads to elevate it slightly in my lap to compensate for the natural slope it had seated on my lap (I play with the stick in my lap) and that just put the finishing touch on it. There is literally nothing I could wish was better on this setup now.. and if not for all the holiday pricing I wouldn't have been able to get it. I'm a PC player so next gen compatibility doesn't worry me, especially since the UFB gets firmware updates to cover me for tournaments and I only play Tekken 7 anyway which won't be getting a new game for a while. For those really looking to put a lot of effort and care into their setup, I think now is the best time to do it. For those just getting started, they could also find something cheap like a Qanba Drone for $60 and swap a few parts in it, get settled in. This may not be the time to spend $500+ on your dream setup, but for building your own perfect setup with a UFB or getting a cheat starter stick I think now is the best time honestly.

[@JoystickNY]

Well said 👍 my english language skill is not as articulate, sometimes I wish i can say things like that in my videos 😂 you sum it up really well, i play a lot of fighting games,mvc1, mvc2, snk2, most king of fighters, sf3rd, sf4, sf5, tekken7, but not as good in tekken. Learning how to play smash ultimate. Never gotten in to sam sho, injustice, killer instict, or mortal kombat. Dbzf. But willing to try later on. 🙏 thank you for dropping by

[@b.o.353]

Never even though of my old fightsticks being outdated. Still will work with my PC no problem. Watching this makes me realize I have a lot of sticks. ;)

[@JoystickNY]

B. O. Pc is the best value option 👍 doesnt have to worry about new consoles updates 😊

[@danielparedes9627]

I just got my first entry level fightstick for just 18 dollars. A qamba drone. That was easy. The difficult part now it's learning everyday again

[@JoystickNY]

LatinCon wow ? 18$ where ? Thats an amazing deal 👍

[@danielparedes9627]

@@JoystickNY I was searching for one in Facebook marketplace. Since i was searching for fightstick few days before Facebook showed me a new one just 20 minutes of been posted. The previous owner needed some quick money.

[@JoystickNY]

LatinCon you’re a lucky guy 👍😂🕹

[@jedimaster12100]

Great guide to fight sticks. I did want to mention that the Razer Pantera Evo is not a midrange fight stick, but a premium fight stick. The difference between it and the regular Pantera is the buttons, ease to remove the artwork, and it has a headphone jack. The mechanical switches feel like Sanwas. I have it and a Hori that has Sanwas and they feel very similar.

[@JoystickNY]

Jose A i totally understand what you mean 😊, it was simply my personal rating, i think everyone has a diff judging of the sticks, i rated it mid range because it doesn’t have detachable cable, no easy access to internal hardware, and the design is very simple. No special features like detachable lever, no led, no strap clip, etc, if you know what i mean? Because in your case, all mid range sticks with sanwa would he consider premium, wouldnt you agree? 🙏 thank you for sharing your thoughts

[@Shandawgx]

This was really informative, thanks for the video man!

[@JoystickNY]

I am happy that it was helpful 🙏❤️ thank you for watching

[@elitecompany1878]

Hey man. So glad I found your channel. I’m a sfv and I’m switching to fight stick for more consistency. Your tutorials on how to use it won me over. Please please please do a series on the nuances of sfv that most don’t know about. Like defense(quick rise, back dashing, throw tech), shimmy, etc in a pro level detail. These vids are hard to find

[@JoystickNY]

Elite Company Welcome to the channel, everything you mentioned, its actually already on my "videos to make list, i actually have a serie coming. will be working on them this year. Btw, i have a part 2 of this video coming next, i am editing it now, hopefully be uploaded on sunday, and thank you 🙏❤️🕹

[@elitecompany1878]

JoyStickNY sounds good. Looking forward to your content. Keep it up. You’re r making very good video with precise information. Loved how you explain what part of your fingers your were applying pressure with

[@elitecompany1878]

Just wanted to update you and let you know that I’ve officially switched to using a hitbox. Stick didn’t give me the precision I was hoping for but the hit box did. I don’t drop combos anymore. I can actually completely focus on the mechanics of fighting games. Really recommend you doing a video on this. I’m using the Qanba Obsidian with the hitbox modification. Got it from arcade shock. If your looking for perfect inputs every single time. Hitbox is it what your looking for

[@JoystickNY]

Elite Company glad you found the proper tool for your style, i will definitely check out hitbox in the future after i finish the videos on my time line ❤️🙏

[@DylanKowalski123]

Mayflash 500 or quanba drone?

[@JoystickNY]

I like the qanba drone more, the mayflash requires you to plug a cable to a controller for some consoles. 🕹❤️

[@LAZERMAC87]

@@JoystickNY damn I just bought the 500!

[@JoystickNY]

They are both great; i mainly play on ps4 and pc, i am sometimes lazy to plug the mayflash extra cable in to a controller, but if you game on diff consoles, the mayflash will be a better choice. 🙏❤️

[@LAZERMAC87]

@@JoystickNY I went back and looked at your Mayflash F300 Elite review. I have canceled my F500 order and ordered two F300 Elites (one for me and one for my brother) with octagon gates. Thank you for the help! 💯

[@JoystickNY]

Gotcha, basically a smaller f500 with sanwa parts 🕹👍

[@1264-t4y]

Thank for the great info, I went with the mayflash 500 elite and couldn't be happier.

[@JoystickNY]

Thats a great choice, especially if you play on diff systems 👍🕹🙏

[@Tinyflower1]

"players are not buying that many games and accessories" *coronavirus enters the room*

[@JoystickNY]

Pumpkin Panda for real lol 🤣

[@JMMM-f9v]

*strive enters the room*

[@JoystickNY]

jerimoi lol 😊

[@KevinGarcia-fq3su]

i got a hori rap v for nintendo switch and a street fighter razer panthera for pc, ps4, and ps3 cause of it getting into fighting games again

[@JoystickNY]

Kevin Garcia you are a serious player my friend 🕹👍😉❤️

[@zeon86]

If anyone want buy a mini stick, I recommend Qanba Drone only, because it has enough space for resting your left hand on the top of the stick, not on its edge. Let's say it has to be at least 9 cm from the joystick to left edge. Altough Qanba Obsidian and Razer are star fight sticks, I don't like Qanba's rubber dome "Option" key and Razer's protrusive cable plug. Finally I picked Hori fighting edge, swapped sanwa parts. Noir layout is quite comfortable.

[@JoystickNY]

Great info, thank you for sharing 😊🙏👍

[@exquisitecorpse4917]

I sort of wish I'd watched this before spending $40 on new parts to make my stick pretty............then again, my stick is really pretty.

[@JoystickNY]

Exquisite Corpse we still have a while before the ps5 and new games come out, the 40$ is well spent 👍❤️🙏🕹 as long as your are happy, is worth it

[@misterkeebler]

Dont worry about it. Yes the ps4 will be out late next year, but it doesnt mean that FGs will be out at launch, let alone heavily popular ones. Current gen still has some good time in being heavily supported

[@JoystickNY]

misterkeebler for sure 👍

[@Ilinca6]

Hey, at least ur stick is pretty

[@then00mer]

Best thing about the idea of sticks going on clearance at the end of a console's lifespan is the fact that I'm a PC gamer so that just means I get a nice stick for cheap.

[@JoystickNY]

Yup , pc wins 👍❤️ always works for pc

[@takohma1056]

Also, all Xbox 1 controllers will work on the new Xbox. So I guess people don’t have to worry about that for Microsoft

[@JoystickNY]

Takohma psn thats good; i wish sony would do thats. Let see what happens when it comes out lol 😂

[@SirCharles.]

Most fightsticks are really easy to mod, even if you need to install a board later on for specific console support, it's not too difficult. Especially if you enjoy tinkering with your gear or if you're willing to learn how, then just go ahead and buy whatever stick you want. My own recommendation is try to find any of the $150+ premium fightsticks for around $100 or less. You'll pretty much be good with anything that has legit arcade parts and a solid enclosure/case. Don't settle for one of the budget options, cuz you'll just end up upgrading parts and spending enough that you could've just bought a better stick to begin with.

[@JoystickNY]

Sir Charles very true, But u know as humans, we always are lazy lol, just press a buy button and have the product ship to our door 😂 i totally agree with you tho

[@syroco]

I would love to see you review fight sticks. I have the Razr Panthera for PS3/PS4/PC which these days is in fact the greatest fight stick for each platform. Can you give me some tips?

[@JoystickNY]

sy the one you have is one of the best, there is no need to buy another one, if you watch the major tournaments, a lot of pros use that stick. Ignore what you see on the qanba dragon or victrix, those sticks are nice but it doesnt improve game play, $300+ doesnt mean its better, you are buying the technology and design and material. you hardly see those stick in tournaments.

[@whitesaint760]

Such great information in this video. I'm new to fighting games and looking for a stick, I think the Mayflash F500 will be perfect for me starting out. Thanks for making this!

[@JoystickNY]

Thats a good choice and a good size, seems alot player love that stick. Another option is the f300 if you dont mind a smaller size. I will probably make money videos on mayflash down the road 🙏❤️ thank you for watching

[@whitesaint760]

@@JoystickNY Thanks for the response! I saw your review of the F300 and I like what you get for the price, but my main concern is the size. The F500 seems to get around that without spending double the money. Keep up the good work!

[@JoystickNY]

saint760 yup, and a lot of people say its more comfortable on your lab, 🙏❤️

[@tchogon4692]

Just a curiosity for you guys; Here in Brazil, a $150 Fightstick costs about R$1000 (Brazilian currency). The minimum wage here for someone who works 8 hours a day from Monday to Saturday is only R$998 ($246), a McDonald's attendant in the US gets more money than a newly graduated engineer in Brazil. Buying this kind of thing here is a nightmare.

[@JoystickNY]

z0ny that is too expensive, i heard that too, i used to work in shop, and tourist from brazil says products in brazil cost a lot from to usa, such as luxury bags and phones and computers

[@DarkSidex92]

@@JoystickNY the thing to do in Brazil is save up for a trip to the US then buy all the electronics you want or can and sometimes the trip plus what you buy can come up to be cheaper then just buying it in the country, at least its what my family that lives there tells me.

[@JoystickNY]

Lights_Leo i think that is true, some people say for apple phones and computers too, sometimes flying to usa and buying a 2000$ computer is cheaper , in their country is like a lot more

[@721jlgarcia]

Great information!!! Was looking to buy the mayflash f500, thanks for the info. Looking forward to getting into this!

[@JoystickNY]

Jose Garcia 🙏glad to help, thank you for watching

[@wkfei2004]

At this point, PS5 is already announced that it is backward compatible which mean PS4 controller can be use in PS5. I am not so worry the compability at this point.

[@Noum77]

To fill up the Etokki part, its main appeal is you can swap parts like going from a ball-top to a bat-top or you just broke something and you want a replacement. All parts can be purchased on the website

[@JoystickNY]

NOUM that is good to know, thank you for sharing 🙏

[@TheLordDai]

There's one problem with the madcatz TES+, that being the big hexanut screw in the bottom right. You rest your hand almost right on top of it in order to get comfortable with the buttons, and over a while it starts to really irritate me.

[@JoystickNY]

Epizestro your right, they could have gone with flat screw that sits flush with the panel. 👍

[@wagnerribeiro8036]

The fight stick prices are much higher than these prices you showed. Contradicting the idea they would be cheaper at the end of production cycle. Great video. A lot of knowledge. Thanks man!

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you for watching, actually a few sticks went on sale, the razer dbz, razer sf5 stick, and razer og artwork panthera , razer panthera evo, qanba drone went on sale, hori rap 4 drop 25$ at one point. And a few other sales. I posted them on my ig n twitter

[@wagnerribeiro8036]

JoyStickNY i have just bought the Razer Panthera Evo for 129.00 w/o taxes on GameStop website. I went by your advice in this very same video... if it is 150 or below it is a good deal! Hehe thx again

[@energiafredda]

Hi, I'm not an expert and I would like to buy a good joystick ... which do you think has the best value for money? One important thing is that I don't like the keys too sensitive like sanwa

[@JoystickNY]

energiafredda as for right now, i think the best value stick is the madcatz tes stick for 119 on amazon, but i think you should wait becuz theres been alot of sales going on that makes 200$ sticks goes down to like 120, i usually post them on my ig and twitter, if you want a cheaper stickc the mayflash 300 is 50$ and its a very good value

[@bryledavid7016]

One of the best stick reviewers on youtube, keep it up!

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you so much for the support ❤️🙏🕹

[@Charles-jj2su]

I’m thinking of picking up a Hori Fighting Edge, due to being a fan of the metal plate and noir layout. Would you say Hori Sticks are built to last?

[@JoystickNY]

Richard Grey hori makes great sticks, i been using my hori rap4 for a long time. I would recommend the obsidian over the fighting edge, its way more popular and a lot of pros use it in tournaments. But go with the style you like 🕹😊

[@Charles-jj2su]

JoyStickNY thanks for the quick answer! I think I’ll go with the edge since I can get it a lot cheaper and I prefer the noir layout and brushed aluminum. As long as it lasts a few years for some games of DOA, I’m good!

[@BoofHoover]

Awesome video, I got a qanba drone to play some blazblue with a friend and now I'm fighting game addicted, I've been playing last blade 2 and kof 2002 like crazy lately. For anyone that is thinking about a drone, I put a sanwa stick in mine with an octagonal gate and it's butter. Also I got different pushbuttons because I found myself activating stock drone buttons by accident. Other than that couldn't ask for more, you can throw it in a backpack and it's easy to work on.

[@JoystickNY]

Well said 👍 great stick at a small size and small price 🙏❤️

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

Speaking of Hori's hayabusa parts, there is a silent Hori hayabusa arcade stick with all silent hayabusa parts.

[@JoystickNY]

Dustin Nunn thank you for sharing 🙏🕹

[@cyberstyle2229]

thank you this was so helpful! i just got the new 8bitdo arcade stick it’s pretty great it’s my first one got it release day.

[@JoystickNY]

Nice, So fast, i preordered it, havent come yet, when it does, i will test it out and do a review on it 🙏❤️

[@cyberstyle2229]

@@JoystickNY thank you lookin forward to your review! love the channel! ❤️

[@lMoustache1880]

What about "Slay Dragon" that arcade stick is like 120$ and ive Heard Its pretty cool and good for beginners, plus It can de modded, whats your opinion on that stick ?

[@JoystickNY]

I'll never find myself that looks like a solid stick, its 185 on usa amazon. I never had the chance to try that one out, but it looks really good with sanwa and easy artwork panel. If it ever goes on sale, i may pick one up to test it out 🙏❤️ i think the slay dragon isnt as popular in the community because its kinda expensive, for 185, theres actually alot of big brands to choose from.

[@jacebeleren1703]

@@JoystickNY Right now the Dragon Slay is about 130$ on eBay from the UK (cant convert GBP accurately off the top of my head) , but then again i don't know how much shipping it to the USA would cost. www.ebay.com/itm/DRAGON-SLAY-Universal-Arcade-Fight-Stick-Controller-PS4-Xbox-One-Switch-PC/163671243459?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225086%26meid%3Df18483e50aa8499796687699d6efc6e8%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D184258116007%26itm%3D163671243459%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DDragon&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A90ddd202-9a87-11ea-b6ef-74dbd1805c72%7Cparentrq%3A31b3bef21720acc402afcc1fffa44861%7Ciid%3A1 I considered picking it up myself, but instead i found a Madcatz TE SE (the smaller SFIV white stick) modded with Sanwa parts for 85$ shipping included, so i got that instead.

[@JoystickNY]

Jace Beleren thats good too, the spec looks good, sanwa parts 👍

[@kyberknight]

This is the most professional channel dedicated to Fightsticks that I've found. Awesome job, keep it up. I play on PC, I don't really have to worry about being compatible with newer consols right?

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you so much, ❤️🙏 you are correct, pc folks dont have to worry, pc will always work for pc. 🕹👍 i am thinking about getting gaming labtop and just use steam , that way i can save money on games , steam has more sales than ps4 store sometimes

[@kyberknight]

@@JoystickNY Yeah, Steam is great! I've been playing Tekken 7 there. I've been playing Tekken for years but I'm not very good against people.. Anyway, I built my PC myself. I enjoy being able to swap parts when new stuff comes out, that's why I ended up getting the Mayflash F500, I can't wait to see what I can upgrade. It was selling for cheaper than the F300 Elite. Thanks again for making these videos.

[@PhuNguyen-ph6lx]

What stick would you reccomend for a student with a tight budget (student as in me)?

[@PhuNguyen-ph6lx]

Tight budget as in about 50-60$

[@Spadoodles]

@@PhuNguyen-ph6lx Hey Phu, I'm on the same page as you. A lot of reviewers have said to try the Qanba Drone ($77 amazon). Mine is coming in tomorrow. I'll let you know how it is once it comes in.

[@PhuNguyen-ph6lx]

@@Spadoodles thanks alot man

[@vasili1207]

Diy .... one

[@JoystickNY]

Spadoodles yes qanba drone is a great option for now 👍🕹❤️🙏

[@007scraps]

Cheers for the advice. I went with option 1 in this conclusion and got a mayflash f300 based on your review.

[@JoystickNY]

You cant go wrong with that, is a great stick at a great value 🕹👍

[@007scraps]

@@JoystickNY cheers. If i like it enough I'll try to get a great ps5 one, after your considered opinion of course haha.

[@newtypehuman]

I was thinking of buying Korean lever . I am interested in your review of Korean parts

[@JoystickNY]

Talal Alosmani for now i probably would not be the best person to give you the advice, i dont have much experience with korean parts yet. Check out some videos on youtube tho. There are quite alot of Korean part videos 🙏❤️ thank you

[@JoystickNY]

Prashanth Panicker i heard they are really good for tekken too, alot of pros players are tekken.

[@newtypehuman]

@Prashanth Panicker i play soul Calibur

[@ThatOneAnimal]

I’ve purchased the Razer Panthera SFV edition yesterday! Can’t wait to use an arcade stick for the first time :) hope I can finally be a decent street fighter player lol thanks for your guides!

[@JoystickNY]

Give it some time, you will improve 🕹👍

[@malfana07]

i m waiting any news from brook accessories regarding their product on Ps5 compatibility and firmware updates

[@JoystickNY]

nur ekmal yes same here, let me know when you find anything 🙏 thank you

[@v1per162]

I'm suprised that wireless arcade sticks are still rare even though wireless technology has improved, imagine if the razer panthera has the same hyper speed technology from their wireless gaming mouse that would be really cool

[@shocknawe]

I wish there was a controller modelled after Sega's Astro City. I'm almost spending over 400 USD on the Sega Saturn Virtua Stick Pro :'( 😢

[@ecapsdira]

If you want just the look there are some Astro City themed sticks on Arcade Shock

[@JoystickNY]

You mean a stick that has both layouts? Because the astro city 1st player is Noir layout and 2nd player is viewlix layout. Both of them exisit, but not together, is that what you mean?

[@AvengerII]

@@ecapsdira No, they don't make TwinSticks like the Sega Saturn Virtua Stick Pro from the late 1990s anymore. You have to commission those stick builds and most of what you get are joysticks with Viewlix button layout that have Astro City artwork but it's not actual Astro City button layout AND art at an authentic (or close to it) arcade size. What Arcade Shock is selling on its website are customized HRAP V joysticks with Astro City-like artwork and they're one player, not the 2-player configurations some people are looking for. You could buy, at least a few years back, the actual Astro City panels but they may have stopped producing those in Japan. Arcades are slowly dying out in Japan as well. I'm pretty sure at this point you'd have to custom-make or pay someone to custom-manufacture an Astro City panel if these guys even know the measurements to use and have access to good metal that won't rust right away. I've seen people make panels out of steel that began rusting right away because they didn't know what they were doing and chose metal alloy that wasn't resistant against corrosion. Heck, I have older joysticks I had to take steel wool to and spray Rustoleum on because they the metal panels WERE rusting when I bought them (but not too badly yet). It was never cheap to built a joystick from arcade parts. The panels alone (for the arcade cabinets) are at least $130-$150. Sad to think that you could buy at one time the Saturn Twin Stick with the Astro City artwork and button layout for under $200!

[@JoystickNY]

Wow that is good to know, Thank you for taking the time to write all those out, appreciate the information 🙏❤️ thank you for watching

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you for watching 🙏

[@ALilMajinFan]

I bought hori rap 4 kai for 109 euro (used like new) instead of 150 euro. After a normal arcadestick and a sanwa one, i just wanted to have a hayabusa one. I'm really happy of this arcade stick, it is very funny to play with. Hope new controllers will come soon with these new gen consoles. Great video as always and thanks for the guide 👍✌️

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you, rap4 is my main stick i use everyday, i love it ❤️🙏

[@chrisjohnson261]

How were you using the screen share while recording without any wires?

[@JoystickNY]

Good eyes and observation, it was not screen share or anything like that 😂 i actually just use screen recording for 30 mins, and my camera was recording 30 mins, and i just sync the audio together. And match up my video and audio to the screen recording ❤️👍🕹

[@stevenpercastegui4980]

Awsome Video! Very insightful

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you 🙏❤️

[@Mrblackgoldfish]

I already bought two earlier this year.

[@JoystickNY]

Oh which ones? You like them?

[@Mrblackgoldfish]

@@JoystickNY I got the Qanba Obsidian and The Nacon Daija ,I also have an old Nuby Tech Soul Caliber 2 stick from 5th or 6th generation.

[@JoystickNY]

Mrblackgoldfish nice sticks, you are serious my friend 👍😂🕹❤️

[@Mrblackgoldfish]

@@JoystickNY it's more like a reminiscence of my high school to college years back then I only experience the American lever in arcades.

[@JoystickNY]

Mrblackgoldfish i used to play american sticks too, until the famous arcade in new york got a few japanese cabinets, and i totally felt in love with it

[@DuckmanR10]

I recently got the F500 Elite. Having a library that spans generations means I can use this stick on pretty much every console I own, with every single fighting game I own. It's pretty nuts to think about it. The compatibility alone makes it one of my favorite purchases. Sanwa parts are the cherry on top. I always wanted a TE2 back in the day, but being limited to Xbox OR PlayStation + the high price turned me away.

[@JoystickNY]

IDIOT thats definitely the best value stick out there, cant beat that, multi console with sanwa too, at that price. Is amazing. 🙏❤️ thank you for watching

[@bunk156]

literally just upgraded my f500 with sanwa parts

[@JoystickNY]

Ben Bunker thats good , small upgrades are always good, you dont need to buy a stick 🕹 for a while now. 👍❤️🙏 thank you for watching

[@kenjoslice7gaming]

I did that too years ago but the kids broke my stick i still have my sanwa parts im about to install my sanwa stuck n my hori

[@JoystickNY]

Ok, luckiky the stick still works, and replacing lever n buttons are not too expensive

[@tardwrangler]

Awesome resource for someone like me just getting into fighting game peripherals! Cheers

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you 🙏❤️

[@dognote1554]

I am going to be one of the few people that will admit that they went cheap and bought a DIY kit for 15 dollars and put it on a pizza box because they couldn't afford a frame and they are content with their decision to do so

[@JoystickNY]

Dognote15 haha 😂 i respect that, i have done things similar in the past too. thank you for sharing. 🙏❤️👍

[@dognote1554]

@@JoystickNY they most badass part of that is I am able to play some PS4 games with it

[@JoystickNY]

Dognote15 that is a pretty sweet deal after all. I cant even get a large pizza pie for 15$ sometimes if you know what i mean lol 😂

[@KaibaBlanco]

I go more cheap using a pc pad circuit board, buttons, stick and put all on old VHS.

[@JoystickNY]

Carlos Maldonado you have a lot of skills tho 😂

[@ahzekahriman5840]

I actually received the Mayflash 500 as a Christmas gift. I actually like the stick a lot. It is *heavy* and I prefer the weight. I have several systems it works on so that is a plus for me. Controller connection might be annoying for some people, but I do not tend to move around too much so the controller doesn't bother me and I think it actually reduces latency than not, which is more important to me. I have not opened it up yet, but out of the box I think it's great to start with if you have larger hands and prefer added weight to your sticks so they don't flop around. Being made in China I did not expect much, but so far so good. I'm not very good and my eyesight I think is going but playing beat 'em ups and shooters is great with it too.

[@JoystickNY]

Ahzek Ahriman for sure, its a great stick, i think pretty much all sticks are made in china, but china can produce excellent products, its just wether if then company wants the manufacture to, just like apple products and a lot of high end camera gears are made in china, but they are top of the line. For the price, the mayflash is the best arcade stick for sure for multi platform 🙏😊 thank you for watching

[@ahzekahriman5840]

JoyStickNY I also don't want to buy new hardware until stuff is confirmed to work on the PS5. It would not make sense to me to buy the stick first intending to use it with hardware it has not been tested with, but I don't think PS4 and PS5 will be so different.

[@JoystickNY]

Ahzek Ahriman yeah, hopefully it wont be too diff, i still love my ps4 ❤️😭

[@ahzekahriman5840]

JoyStickNY Yeah. I think it still has a long life. I play Monster Hunter World often on it. I don't have too many fighters on PS4 to be honest. What do you play?

[@JoystickNY]

Ahzek Ahriman i basically play almost all fighting game, and i am pretty good at most of them too, its my favorite genre, i really enjoy it, i dont play story games or rpg.

[@vasili1207]

Just wait .... like the ps4 it will be proprietary syncing none of your sticks will work

[@JoystickNY]

Vasili you are probably going to be right, they usually wont let us to backward 😂🕹 thank you 🙏❤️

[@adrianchavez819]

@@JoystickNYbackwards compatible that is one of the resons i stopped buying fightsticks. I bought most of my fightstick but it would be nice to use it on ps4

[@JoystickNY]

Adrian Chavez yea sometimes i want to play on steam and not have to worry about buying new arcade sticks, but i dont like the frames on pc, i feel like the console gives a different feeling and vibe when i play ❤️🙏

[@maxtrainor8401]

very helpful and helped me find my new fight stick

[@JoystickNY]

I am happy it was helpful, 🙏 thank you for watching

[@takohma1056]

Not arcs system lol. Unless they re-release GG on the next gen

[@JoystickNY]

Takohma psn is the next guilty gear on ps4 ? I am waiting for gran blue fantasy versus too

[@SnivyChara]

@@JoystickNY it was confirmed recently it's going to release on ps4, but it'll release late 2020 so probably will be cross-gen between ps4 and ps5

[@JoystickNY]

SnivyChara ohh that makes a lot of sense, cuz it would be losing a lot of players if its only on ps4. Thank you for the info 🙏👍❤️

[@AvengerII]

There's one thing I have to correct... I don't know if it was said on this video, or someone else's video review of the Hori joysticks that use the Hayabusa levers BUT the Hayabusa control levers from the original production run (2012) and TODAY both use Omron microswitches. I just recently got a Hayabusa during Arcade Shock's Cyber Week sale and had to take the lever apart for a mod to fit into a joystick which had an issue with the 5-prong harness adaptor overlapping with the X-button (which happens in Qanba and HRAP 2/3 cases when you try to swap out the JLF with a Hayabusa lever). During the process of removing the baseplate for a simple mod (the mod is unscrewing the PCB board from the Hayabusa base and hot gluing it (with a heat gun) to the lip of the baseplate after the baseplate is screwed back on; this lowers the adaptor prong to a 30-degree DOWN angle so that the joystick harness doesn't cross and interfere with the X-button action), I noticed the Hayabusa microswitches were Omrons. I think all my Hayabusas (I think I have six of these levers now) have Omron microswitches. They all generally feel the same. Someone else had said that Hori switched to Matsushita/Panasonic microswitches after the early runs of Hayabusa levers used Omron switches. Well, that point is moot now. Panasonic isn't making microswitches (that can be used in joystick levers) anymore so EVERYBODY (Seimitsu, Sanwa, Hori) had to redesign/retailor their existing joystick lines if they used Panasonic microswitches. That's why Seimitsu changed the LS-32 recently and retweaked the design to use Omron's. There's still a supply of LS-32's online that use the old Panasonic switches but it's shrinking. Newer-build LS-32's are clearly marked as new with the Omron microswitches and those are all post-2017 production. Seimitsu is in the process of switching the entire LS-series lines to the alternate microswitch. Heh -- all my LS-32's are pre-2017. Guess I'll have to mention that fact if I ever sell my surplus LS-32 levers!

[@JoystickNY]

AvengerII thats very good information, its definitely not from my video; i am not that in-depth yet , mines are more basic infos. 😊 those detail changes are interesting

[@TRVENORSE]

The base of the fight sticks are the same material, just plastic. The rest can be swapped out. Waiting for a overpriced PS5 released arcade stick is just stupidity. Brook will with time release a new PCB that you can install for a new generation consoles. If you have your money and eyeballed a new stick, buy it.

[@Brass_Heathen]

Yeah I'm with you... just be patient.

[@JoystickNY]

I hope the ps5 it self wont be super expensive 🙏 thank you for watching

[@JoystickNY]

Brass Heathen 🕹🙏 thank you for watching

[@exquisitecorpse4917]

Very true. And I seriously doubt there's any reason to buy the PS5 within the first year as the generation-defining fighting games won't be released until later. By then, Brook will have an updated PCB for $100, and throwing it in your old stick will be half the price of buying a new one.

[@JoystickNY]

Exquisite Corpse very true 🙏👍❤️ thank you for sharing

[@ricflair4052]

PS5 is already out , I am waiting for a Joystick guide 2021 Thank you

[@JoystickNY]

I should make 1 , hopefully i can have time to make, work and family been taking most of my time

[@ricflair4052]

@@JoystickNY Thank you very much

[@be.paranoiamd]

"fightstickpro.com "is not working now....

[@JoystickNY]

BE. ParanoiAMD its under construction most of time as i am working on it. Thank you for checking 🙏❤️

[@marksellskias6234]

Mayflower 500 elite has sanwa buttons and stick with good weight for only 129.99. that's gotta be the best bang for your buck

[@JoystickNY]

The Fractional Bitcoin Peasant normally that is a good deal, but not right now, because most arcade sticks are going on sale, sometimes 200$ sticks goes down to 110$, i usually post them on my i lg and twitter, this year i dont recommend people buying the f500, f500 elite, becuz for that price, there are other choices ❤️🙏

[@marksellskias6234]

I'll be in touch to get one when I have my ps5! Thinking I'll upgrade from my Mayflower this holiday. Thank you for the great content and love the channel

[@AngelaMk2]

What stick is the best for putting anime waifus all over it? Thats the most important thing

[@JoystickNY]

Freddy Fresh haha for real 😂😂😂 bingo bingo lol, 🙏😊 thank you for dropping by

[@rapha2028]

17:10 basically F300 = smol boi F300 elite = better smol boi F500 = *wide* boi F500 elite = better *wide* boi

[@JoystickNY]

Yup 👍😂 you got it , and ll the better boi is the same internals

[@NeinBreaker]

Thanks for the advice. I _was_ going to save up for a Hori RAP N Hayabusa to replace my Venom Arcade Stick, but waiting is the better option. Something better may come out and I'll probably end up kicking myself if I got a current-gen stick.

[@JoystickNY]

Nein Breaker the venom should good enough for the mean time, you dont really need a new stick, what you can do is maybe change the lever and buttons, it will he a good small upgrade for now. 🙏❤️

[@NeinBreaker]

@@JoystickNY I've already modded mine. The lever was swapped out for a Sanwa JLF (and I recently put in a 4lb spring for more control), an octagonal gate, and I also got some Sanwa OBSF-30 buttons... which weren't any different from the original buttons, in my experience. I was looking to upgrade because the Venom didn't have a touchpad or L3 & R3 buttons, which meant I had to remap some buttons to reset practice modes. Other than that minor point, I'm okay sticking with what I've got.

[@JoystickNY]

I see, yea hold off on more ps5 news. As you know madcatz coming back to make fight sticks , so we know 1 already

[@rxzero00]

A while ago I bought the Qanba Q1W for $60 new for the 2.4 Ghz wireless capabilities and wired capabilities and I only had a PC and PS3 which it could play. It also works on Android and it is a nice entry level stick. I modded it with Seimitsu LS-32 and the normal Seimitsu buttons. I also bought a used Qanba Q4 RAF which was originally a $150 fight stick during the PS3 era but I bought it for $60 and it had Sanwa parts pre-installed. It had a nice metal base with I think is felt bottom which works really well on the lap and it has a pretty decent weight and size. It also had a cool translucent clear red housing. The only problem was the hinged door because the plastic latch wore out. The Q4 RAF can play both on the PS3 and Xbox 360 which means I can play it on multiple newer systems with an adapter or on PC when in Xbox 360 mode. Both of these sticks has a mode button that switches from dpad to analog so I can play the older Touhou Project games with either stick. I think I got my money's worth for these two sticks since I don't have current consoles nor planning on buying newer consoles and mostly play on PC. Strangely my used Q4 RAF had only clear red buttons and the red balltop was replaced with a Seimitsu clear smoke bubble balltop which looks pretty nice though I couldn't get the balltop off nor could I remove the quick disconnects off the buttons but since I don't play hard on my sticks normally, I don't really need to replace the buttons.

[@JoystickNY]

rxzero00 wow 👍❤️🙏 thank you so much for sharing. You remind me of something, playing on pc saves alot of money, there is no need to buy new controllers, it ignore console upgrades. As games release in steam, it such a cheaper Option. 🙏❤️🕹 thank you for watching

[@rxzero00]

@@JoystickNY I love your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@JoystickNY]

rxzero00 ❤️ appreciate your love and support as always 🙏🙏🙏

[@rxzero00]

@@JoystickNY What do you think about the Neo Geo Arcade Stick Pro for the price? It seems to be stocked with a Zippy Joystick but doesn't look too hard to be modded especially with Seimitsu parts like a real Neo Geo arcade cabinet.

[@JoystickNY]

rxzero00 i think for 129 is a bit too high, i would spent the money on a better controller and just buy those games separately, i am sure most people just plays a few of those classic games. And there is no online versus mode, i think is one of those things that is cool for alittle bit and then it goes in to the closet. And you will have to pay extra for the gamelinq if you want to use it on other console as a controller. And then pay extra for better buttons and lever. But its a cute all in one console tho. If its cheaper, it would he something nice to have on the side.

[@hexoroid]

I agree.. i am waiting for PS5 to see when SF V comes out and other Fight Stick Games.

[@JoystickNY]

Yup, any new stick is going to sell good cuz we havent had new sticks for a while

[@stargambit9883]

Cool stick fight game best thanks for sharing video ❤️

[@MrTomato35]

thank you! love your videos man.

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you so much 🙏❤️

[@ukumra]

Buy one stick and get used to it. Then when a PCB to mod your stick comes out just upgrade it. No need to keep buying arcade sticks every year. My favorite sticks are made my Hori, they are very durable and you can always upgrade/swap parts.

[@JoystickNY]

I agree 👍 thank you for watching 🙏

[@wurlbfree1981]

Great vid and thanks you stopped me from buying a new one so close to a new console 🤣🤣🤣 idk what I was thinking

[@JoystickNY]

wurlbfree1981 😂 if you already have one, yea, hold on to your money, is not really worth it right now 👍

[@wurlbfree1981]

@@JoystickNY so right brother I wanted something new I have the madcatz sf x t stick since 2012 prefect condition the need wasnt there I just wanted to try a hit box which I agree is too much should be 100.00 flat. I'm waiting til 2020.

[@JoystickNY]

wurlbfree1981 yea, do that, wait abit and see if they go on sale, when the ps5 comes out, i doubt every brand is going to request all sticks to be sent back to the manufacturer and have technicians break the packaging and update it for the ps5, and redo all the paper and art for ps5. Is prob not possible and no profit to be made. So down the road we will see stores just try to get rid of the extra inventory. The longer they hold it, the less it will worth.

[@mastergamer5779]

Just bought the Mayflash f500 elite can’t wait!

[@JoystickNY]

That is a serious stick my friend 🕹👍 thank you for watching and happy holidays 🙏❤️

[@KayKapone1]

That’s right bro I’m gonna buy a mini arcade stick but only a £35 tho I’m not gonna spend big. 1: because I never used a stick 2: because I don’t like using pad 3: just give it a go. 😀

[@JoystickNY]

Killer_zX what about mayflash f300 or qanba drone? Is it available in your country?

[@KayKapone1]

JoyStickNY yes i live in England I’m thinking of getting mayflash f300 but this is my first fight stick. Is the durability good does it break easy?

[@JoystickNY]

Killer_zX is a pretty good stick for 50$ here in the usa. I recommend the f300 over the mini, because the f300 can be use for many consoles and its upgradable.

[@KayKapone1]

JoyStickNY alright, I’ll have a look thanks for your help subbed! 👍

[@Adrian_Franco]

God damn, I'm so ready for next gen fighting games. Getting bodied will never feel so good.

[@JoystickNY]

Haha for real lol, maybe ultra Hd and Vr

[@Ph1reEmblemFan]

Just wanna say huge fan of the channel and honestly you're a huge reason I committed as much to fighting games as I did with all the information I've learned from you so thanks! I had recently picked up the Hori Nintendo Switch RAP and am enjoying it a lot. What stick is currently your favorite?

[@JoystickNY]

I dont really have a favorite , i do use the hori rap4 the most in most of my videos, becuz i like hayabusa buttons, and sanwa lever 🕹

[@miaouew]

I've been using a usb Xbox style controller for Samurai Shodown V Special, KoF98 and Garou, I am beyond ready to upgrade to a stick...these games just play better and feel better with them even though I prefer a controller for everything else

[@JoystickNY]

I agree, maybe wait for ps5 and see what comes out👍🕹

[@lzfsburner]

I have an old Qanba Q2 with some replacements (qanba LEDs were cut, no turbo, no mode). I've added silent jfl, and a brook ps4+ board held on by a single screw since theres no room in the stock case. After watching the video, instead of getting the obsidian (atm $160 ~ $174 w/ tax) I'm leaning towards getting a 20 pin button harness and premium buttons to replace the old switches, i should look into ways of properly mounting the brook board into the Q2/crystal too, i just dont trust cutting it's plastic casing...

[@JoystickNY]

LukeZeFool yea, your right. dont spend that much for now, its not really worth it for now to spend that much money, we gonna see some new sticks, you are gonna be happy you waited, or just fixed your old stick 👍

[@risil_idarin]

You could really use some sound insulation to stop all that unnecessary reverb, and then your channel will be very professional!

[@JoystickNY]

Risil Idarin thank you, 🙏this is the last video that i was putting the mic far, the videos after this video, the audio is a bit better, i am still trying to grasp the audio and lighting, they are hard lol 😂

[@makoto4341]

Just the comparison i needed (subscribed, great content). If you had to choose tho, which one would you pick? the hori rap pro n or the rap 4 pro? kinda undecided between those two and the price is the same (6 bucks more for the rap pro n, which is almost nothing).

[@JoystickNY]

Makoto K thank you , great question, i would recommend the Rap4 , because it is vewlix layout which is more common, and it has a flatter profile body, which is more comfortable, The advantage of the rap N is that it has a higher case which makes modding easier, cuz some korean parts require a lot of room. And wire-ing would be easier on the Rap N, aside from those,everything else is about the same ❤️

[@makoto4341]

The rap4 it is then (was leaning towards it too, more used to vewlix), thank you for the quick answer!

[@JoystickNY]

Makoto K no problem, i use the rap 4 for the longest time, once you get comfortable with it, u can try out other parts 🕹

[@kiiogato]

Great video! Do you think a DIY stick like the BNB would be a reasonable safe alternative moving to next gen? I'm no stranger to customizing sticks, but I've never had to deal with swapping boards before. Do you think it would be a good investment to DIY a fightstick, and then just swap to a new board when the new consoles release?

[@JoystickNY]

KingKiio that works too, thats what a lot of guys do, a lot of folk who doesnt want to buy a new stick every time a new console comes out; thats pretty much their way, is like buying a new video card and swapping it out on a custom pc. Similar concept 🙏👍😊

[@kiiogato]

@@JoystickNY awesome, I'll look more into a DIY stick then. Thank you!

[@AvengerII]

I prefer the HRAP N to the HRAP V. The button layout on the HRAP V which is what Mad Catz used for all or most of its joystick lines isn't as comfortable. The Noir buttons follows the natural curvature of your hand which makes extended use of that joystick more comfortable, IMHO. The Noir button layout is comparable to the Astro City button layout used on the HRAP 2 and HRAP 3 joystick lines. The Viewlix button layout became preferred only because that's the style Mad Catz chose to use in their joystick line. For years, it was more difficult to buy Hori joysticks in the West than it was Japan and the rest of Asia. That's why the Viewlix layout became dominant. I'm glad Hori does manufacture Noir-layout joysticks because honestly that button layout is more ergonomic. The HRAP 1 button layout was comparable to the Viewlix but those leftmost buttons on that faceplate were basically unusable. The angle they were positioned was too extreme and uncomfortable for many people. A LOT of us (including me!) basically stopped using the leftmost buttons on HRAP 1 faceplates and either disconnected our leftmost buttons and shifted the button wiring to the right, or removed those leftmost buttons altogether and plugged their button holes. As unused as most right-most Viewlix buttons are, at least they're not positioned at an angle where they're uncomfortable to use! The first HRAP N Pro release was the Soul Calibur V joystick that Hori sold in February 2012. There are still copies of this joystick out there and they're not expensive; they usually sell at original MSRP ($130 or less). Be aware they're last-generation joysticks so they're PS3 or XBox 360-native. The Soul Calibur V joystick is not branded as an HRAP per se but it IS essentially an HRAP SA with all-Sanwa parts (although I traded out the Sanwa JLF lever on mine for a Hayabusa control lever after Hori started selling Hayabusa levers separate from the Fighting Edge joysticks; that Soul Calibur V joystick is probably my best HRAP/Hori joystick right now. My first Hayabusa control lever is installed in the PS3 SC V joystick base that I still own to this day). The HRAP N3 SA is the first mass-market (Japan-only) generic release of the joystick case originally used for the Soul Calibur V joystick. (The PS3 version of the Soul Calibur V joystick retains the plug-in the XBox 360 version used for an audio jack; there's also a USB slot on the Soul Calibur V joystick to plug in a keyboard or something like that?) The HRAP N4 is just the HRAP N3 with a PS4-compatible PCB and Hori arcade parts replacing the Sanwa parts from the HRAP N3 series and its licensed variants (Soul Calibur V, Doa or Alive 5, Soul Calibur VI, and Tekken 7). All these these joysticks have PS3/PS4 and XBox One/360 counterparts that are pretty much the same thing aside from proprietary, licensed PCBs. The Soul Calibur VI joystick Hori sold was branded as an HRAP Pro joystick. Few of us seemed to buy that joystick which is why they're generally on sale for half or less this holiday season! Frankly, I think it's an ugly-looking stick either way (PS4 blue, XBox One red) with undesirable transparent plastic casing in unattractive colors. I'd spend the extra bucks and get the HRAP N4 myself for a more attractive case color.

[@JoystickNY]

AvengerII wow that is a lot of good information right there, took me a while to read it all, i feel you. Somehow i got comfortable with the Rap 4 and viewlix, i do notice the noir layout fits the human hand more cuz our ring finger is shorter which the button technically should be lower. My very first stick was the hori ex2, it is actually a noir layout stick, later on it broke and i threw it out becuz i didnt want to deal with soldering and ended buying a madcatz and it was the easy to swap cables, and since then i been using viewlix until now.

[@AvengerII]

@@JoystickNY I don't think they ever "officially" sold the HRAP N3 SA in the States but a small number were imported by Hori and sold through their American website (I THINK) and Arcade Shock which gets a lot of Hori exclusives. I've never seen the HRAP N Pro in stores but did see the XBOx One version of the Soul Calibur VI (an HRAP N4 licensed variant) joystick on-sale for $70 in-store at Marshalls. I ultimately couldn't use the Soul Calibur VI joystick I bought and returned it since it wasn't compatible with the emulators I use on my PC. Oh, it'll work on Steam for Microsoft-licensed program but for MAME and retroconsole emulators you're SOL. Those are grey software MS will NEVER let licensed MS product be compatible with. For emulator programs, use Hori joysticks with PCB's made for PlayStation systems OR get a Brooks Fighting Board PCB or MC Cthulu. All my HORI PlayStation joysticks, even the PS2-era joysticks, are compatible with Windows 10 and have no issues with any emulator or fan-made game to date. The officially-licensed "XBox" controllers would just no work with the emulators no matter what I tried. I have seen the HRAP V at GameStop and a local computer parts store, Micro Center. Micro Center had a big sale, 50% reduction ($75 for $150 joysticks) on its remaining HRAP V's and sold out of both the blue and white HRAP V's they had in stock. I do NOT like the HRAP V case style so I was never going to buy those! It's a very good deal, though, for people who want a more affordable stick with quality parts. There's absolutely no reason, IMHO, to swap out Hayabusa parts for Sanwa or Seimitsu. Personally, I think the Hayabusa buttons (which I wish they would get back in, in red and white at Arcade Shock and other parts vendors!) are about equivalent to the Sanwa pushbuttons but the Hayabusa lever is better-performing than either the Sanwa JLF or the Seimitsu control levers I've used. The only Seimitsu buttons that I like are the limited edition Pearl buttons which feel like the Sanwa OBSF buttons. It's gotta be the plastic and design of the button because they use the same PS-14-D microswitch used in the 24mm Seimitsu buttons!!! Very comfortable button, a shame the Pearl is long out of production. I've never liked the JLF all that much, very bad gate design and switching to an octogate didn't help me. It's just a bad gate/actuator combination. I'm very fine with using square gates on other Japanese control levers but they don't grind or "get in the way" like the gate on the JLF does. The Seimitsu LS-40 and LS-56 are fussy joysticks you CAN overpower on your inputs. The LS-56 in particular has an ultra-short throw and I just never got used to it but I can use the LS-40 on occasion and it's a very good joystick for traditional shooters and most fighting games. The Hayabusa to me feels like a finer-tuned LS-32 which just happens to use JLF clone parts. I go back-and-forth constantly between the LS-32 and Hayabusa all the time and am very comfortable with both. My new control lever buys are all Hayabusa at this point but I won't throw away the LS-32s I have, especially not in the HRAP 3 SE which is a rare production joystick! (I did replace the PS-14-G buttons in my HRAP 3 SE because they just weren't comfortable for me. I replaced them with similarly colored Sanwa OBSF buttons.) I might sell some surplus LS-32's used at some point along with an LS-40 and LS-58 (which I know I'll never use again) but I will keep the LS-32's in most of the joystick bases I have them in. It's still a very good control lever. The JLF I would never go back to (you know it's overrated and trouble-prone with all the replacement parts and mods for it online!!!) and the LS-56/-58 is my absolutely least-favorite Seimitsu lever.

[@JoystickNY]

AvengerII you have a lot of experience with arcade parts. Impressive. Is that a hobby or your job is related to arcades?

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@@JoystickNY Hobby, and I used to spend a lot of time on the Shoryuken boards where we talked this stuff to death. I kind of left it for 5 years and really didn't play many games in that time. I've semi-unretired and am noticing some things. They've discontinued some parts (as if that never happens ALL the time!) but the main thing is that the disintegration of arcades is affecting Japan more. I thought it was curious Hori got into arcade parts manufacturing (and supplying arcades with those parts) after they introduced the original Fighting Edge joystick in 2012 (considering the arcades ARE dying out in Japan) but they may have been trying to earn "street cred" with hobbyists who build or mod joysticks. It's definitely worked out for them. Seimitsu and Sanwa I'm sure have been affected although Sanwa continues to be the most preferred supplier for most joystick lines. Seimitsu is more niche than it was before although they (Hori and other hardware manufacturers) never have manufactured that many home console joysticks since the early 2000's with Seimitsu parts. I think Mark Julio could tell you more about that... He has a ton of joysticks, a virtual museum of major joysticks (130+) made in Japan since at least the early, mid-1990s! There were a lot more manufacturers using or emulating Seimitsu parts in the 1990s than there are now. Arcade Shock probably customizes more "Seimitsu Edition" HRAP's than Hori itself ever produced!

[@JoystickNY]

AvengerII good to know, thank you for sharing, i can tell you are Vetern in this area 🙏👍❤️

[@Cesclarenas]

I didn't watch this before and I just bought a Nintendo Switch Hori RAP Chun Li Edition. It was just too beautiful to pass on it. I surely will need a converter for using it on a future PS5

[@JoystickNY]

Yup that is a beautiful stick, always a good stick for the collection 👍🕹

[@bernard4459]

Great site and video. Thanks dog.

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you for watching ❤️🙏

[@itsthatYEStoogoodguy]

MadCatz Alpha, in my opinion, it's the best for young kids who's getting into fighting games.

[@JoystickNY]

Fahad yea, i agree. And its affordable enough to even see if they are even interested in it before proceeding in to a more expensive one 👍

[@scju]

Hi, JoyStickNY. Do you think that an arcade stick with a metal surface (like Victrix Pro FS) feels better than one with a plastic surface (like MADCATZ TE2)? (regardless of the other parts)

[@JoystickNY]

mostly personally preference, definitely wont affect game play, i personally cant really tell what my palm is on when playing becuz my hand is moving alot. Metal will give you a heavier a stick, often more stable and bit more expensive. 😊

[@scju]

@@JoystickNY You are professional and modest! :)

[@clee888]

excellent honest knowledgeable reviewer

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you so much ❤️🙏

[@GokkunGuru]

Best video on arcade fight sticks ever.

[@JoystickNY]

Thank you so much 🙏❤️

[@MxGiK3HuNNx]

The Hori fighting EDGE, you are paying for the metal but you could take it off and customize it to your will’s content and then put it back on

[@JoystickNY]

Yup, i just feel that taking it off would be wasteful, because it does look pretty cool, and we are paying for the metal. 🙏❤️ thank you for watching

[@ChrisDallasDualped]

Great video. is there an arcade stick with pinball side buttons? Thx in advance

[@JoystickNY]

For Pinball side buttons, not that i know of, you may have to custom build the stick

[@ChrisDallasDualped]

@@JoystickNY too bad.. 😒

[@sinny721]

Thanks! This was really helpful

[@JoystickNY]

Happy to help 🙏❤️ thank you for watching

[@valrond]

I just got the Hori RAP 4 Kai for PS4. But I will use it mostly for my Mister FPGA, then PC, although I also own the PS4.

[@JoystickNY]

Juanfra Valero thats my favorite rap 4 that i use in most of my videos 🙏 i switch the lever to sanwa, kept everything else the same tho 🕹 thank you for watching

[@Ncc-tt3gh]

going to get an entry-level after seeing this im not new to fighting games but new to use arcade sticks at home and thanks for sharing your video/information aswell jsut want to ask what is your intake of 8Bitdo N30 Arcade Stick which dos every thing ?

[@JoystickNY]

I actually use that stick a few times at work on a switch, its not bad, but i havent used it extensively to judge it, but it feels quite simple, it may not he as comfortable or effect as compare to a dual shock controller imo

[@Ncc-tt3gh]

@@JoystickNY thanks for your feedback,