Jim Cornette on Mick Foley Working With Joey Ryan

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[@asurlybarber3620]

Cornette's early rants on Joey Ryan have aged rather well, I would say.

[@RockandrollNegro]

New Jack vs Joey Ryan ASAP. New Jack would be like "Make sure you pull your pants ALL the way down so I can get the knife. .. I mean, so the spot looks good."

[@MrSportsadam]

Or how about Joey Ryan vs ian rotten in a deathmatch

[@zombiewarrior88]

@@MrSportsadam or triple h vs joey ryan in a golden shovel buried alive match.

[@davidmurray6949]

Nick Gage 🤣🤣🤣

[@elijahchesterthomas5334]

Would have been excellent.

[@emperorpalpatine1228]

I complain about WWE being PG, but Thank God they don't allow shit like what Joey Ryan does to go on.

[@kevinjackson1275]

Emperor Palpatine By comparison the WWE is now the serious promotion

[@YourPalFry]

It's all fake fighting anyways....what's the big deal?

[@darthroden]

They wouldn't even allow this during the Attitude Era and that says something.

[@calebberaud9747]

Fuck off dude

[@nickcapella2440]

May as well. The angle with Bobby Lashley stealing rusevs whore hooker wife is just as bad.

[@joshgibson2263]

Mick is the guy who is supposed to tell other guys that doing shit like that is dumb as hell and they shouldn't do it.

[@Redhotshawntexas]

The guy who made a living out of pulling a sock out of his sweatpants. Ah.

[@vict4451]

And know we know why Ryan was so into getting this joke of a "move" over.

[@AlexThorn]

Couldn't agree more with Cornette on this one, especially when he started talking about the fans faces. The last podcast interview I did, I was speaking on the same thing. The audiences faces.

[@daltonio6001]

Necroglobule He’s not even 60 yet lol

[@emperorpalpatine1228]

I love Pro Wrestling, but hate the term "Sports Entertainment" The stuff that Joey Ryan does isn't Pro Wrestling or Sports Entertainment, it's a complete insult to the industry. Wrestling fans don't want this or people dancing and all that shit. We want believeable story lines, believable rivalries and great matches. What we don't want is our intelligence insulted with trash we can spot a mile away.

[@BryanRolax]

I mean hey, at least he could have been a cool tag team with Val Venis in the attitude era. lol

[@jasonbowser5754]

This is no less realistic than someone taking 3 chair shots and acting like it caused no damage at all.

[@geneanthony3421]

Joey Ryan and others are working in a post kayfabe industry trying to get some attention. They weren't the ones who killed its credibility. Quit acting like they are the problem, the problem is with the people in the #1 wrestling company in the world who think they make movies and look down on wraslin.

[@wayne6777]

All wrestling fans want are oiled up men in spandex gonchies lifting each other up by the crotch. Get it right.

[@bdr113080]

I have been a fan of Micks since 1991, I still am, he will always be one of my favorites but it is really disappointing to see Mick take part in this bullshit.

[@Redhotshawntexas]

How do you feel about 25 years of pulling a sock out of his sweatpants?

[@georgejackson4426]

We should do a Go Fund Me to fund a match between Joey Ryan and David Schulz.

[@bobgarlen]

I think the lack of direction and guidance over all the indies is what's killing the business outside of wwe. It's like all of pro-wrestling needs a big fat reboot. A re-establishment of the guard, to define what is and isn't. Not necessarily putting tooth paste back, but presenting something as "the real shit" and using the indies as the different flavors.

[@haroldpierce1987]

You're basically asking for the restoration of the NWA AWA and other regulating/governing bodies for promotions to join

[@northleedspoppa]

@@haroldpierce1987 awa was just a promotion

[@haroldpierce1987]

@@northleedspoppa it was independent territory from the nwa and fairly large especially at the end of its run it was basically its own thing is all I meant but yes it's listed as a promotion

[@northleedspoppa]

It's been tried recently with pwg and zero 1

[@haroldpierce1987]

@@northleedspoppa Neither are national though

[@evannlorman7926]

Lmao bet you Mick regrets doing this now bwahahaha

[@ShouldaShotA-Rod]

I was at the show. OTT is pretty much the only indie company Ireland has so I let them away with a lot so I can still go to watch wrestling. And I have never been so disappointed that I was at a show in my life. I left the arena to stand in the smoking area outside until the match and unfortunately came back when the match was over only for 10 more minutes of dumb shit to happen. It's just horrible and it's worse to see people enjoying it.

[@ErisedDawn]

Bu-fucking-foooooon. God, Jim is amazing.

[@Johnny_from_RI]

😍

[@MrJjburgess11]

It surprised me even more when I seen Ken Shamrock doing it . A guy who came from legit fighting did this bullshit spot.

[@TheFailedmessiah]

One is real, one is fake.

[@MirkoBalda]

Crazy to see Corny was right about Lio Rush

[@nikolauskellogg2849]

Damn, feels good to know I'm by far not the only one that sides with Cornette on this kind of thing. I try to love the Indies however I wish they wouldn't mix this haha bullshit in with the good matches. I'm a huge fan of the increased work rate in a lot of these matches but they usually run the risk of taking it too far, no selling and having the third finisher be the finish when the spinning tombstone from the top rope didn't do it. It feels an odd company to hang my hat on but more and more and have to say that NXT is where it's at these days. I've not seen a bad TakeOver.

[@WCWThunderRosa]

It makes me sad to see what Mick Foley has become. His Mankind & Cactus Jack characters created a reputation for him that he has been destroying ever since his TNA run

[@yorknorthyorkeastyorketobi741]

He was always garbage. I never liked watching his matches. He was the inspiration of back yard wrestlers which has lead to this sadness. All that hardcore crap he did was unwatchable to me back then. So it makes sense he indulges in this crap

[@DarkScorpionPete98]

@@yorknorthyorkeastyorketobi741 Oh, shut up.

[@yorknorthyorkeastyorketobi741]

@@DarkScorpionPete98 or what? You tough online Caucasians make me laugh.

[@caseyj8313]

@@yorknorthyorkeastyorketobi741 thats why we keep you people down

[@yorknorthyorkeastyorketobi741]

@@caseyj8313 you probably live in a trailer park

[@Normaniac]

"You can't be surprised he did this. I'm not" - Brian Last, who has never spent 30 minutes with Foley lol

[@survivingwatson]

lmao ppl actions tell you more than knowing them can. mick wil take a check for literally fucking anything since TNA. nobody is surprised he did this and everyone has more than enough evidence as to why in the past. quit bitching bc you like watching men grab dicks and jump around

[@chuckmendez8446]

Hey, an outsider's look is sometimes the most objective one. Jim is friends with him so he doesn't want to see it that way. Mick is exactly the type of guy that tries so hard to be kind and positive all the time that he ends up agreeing to be on that type of show and put over that clown. He's always been way too nice.

[@gurtblack3471]

I can’t believe Mick Foley went from the cell bump to this. I can’t condemn Mick because I love his work usually, but not this. I’m guessing he did it to try and help his daughters career

[@patrickboian8545]

cant believe mick was part of that garbage

[@CairnieR]

Or any self respecting wrestler who thinks "hey he said I should grab his dick so he can flip me in the most fucking stupid way possible, that will make this match great" instead of just punching him straight in the face repeatably.

[@NintendoPsycho]

He is a feminist after all.

[@DaveyBlade13]

The shits hilarious get over it losers

[@Alabama1861]

Mick Foley should've whipped his ass!

[@VaniFoxOfficial]

Just a reminder, Foley was the guy who pulled a sock out of his pants, put it over his hand and shoved it down the opponent's throat. Was that better than the dick spot? Not defending Joey Ryan here, I hate the bum. What I'm saying is, people tend to forget shit like this has always been around.

[@davidj5910]

Was waiting to hear What Jim was gonna say about it. Can't believe Foley jumped off roofs as a kid to end up doing this dumb sh#t

[@maxxdahl6062]

Well from a safety POV...jumping off a roof is completely idiotic also.

[@ciarandonaghy131]

I was at the OTT show and I would like to add that war machine had a brilliant match so did Marty Scurll and the rest of the show was brilliant.

[@UKHeihachi]

Scott Stiener is a fine nomination to end this foolishness. I would nominate New Jack. I dare say he'd be cheaper to book and nothing says 'pack this tomfoolery in forthwith' like a razor blade studded baseball bat to the bollocks.

[@goaskinza]

I nominate The Great Sasuke.

[@gir3009]

Thomas Hester The Great Sasuke would end Joey Ryan?

[@kristenelaythe2348]

Vince should bring him in for one match,Joey Ryan vs Brock

[@DanielStarbuck]

UKHeihachi i hope someone books him again minoru suzuki and he tries doing this spot, suzuki would legit just squeeze till ryans bollocks popped.

[@NintendoPsycho]

Joke vs. joke

[@josevillarreal4003]

You know....I keep hearing the "it puts smiles on people's faces"-type defense for a lot of this nonsense. What I don't get is how anyone actually finds this stupid shit funny in the first place. I mean, 10 year old children, maaaaaybe young teenagers.....but if you're 18 and older and buying a ticket with enthusiasm to see shit like this......I don't fucking get it.

[@billybarnett9518]

Give Santino credit, at least the cobra wasn't his dick...

[@buckyhate7695]

We live in an era, where ring psychology means being goofy. I'm all for comedy in wrestling, but comedy is like Hardcore- use it sparingly, and it can really add to a match. When you use ridiculous spots in every match, it ruins everything (comedic, or otherwise).

[@Brenc623]

I knew I was in for a treat when I saw it was 20 plus minutes long

[@haworthlowell805]

Well my respect for Mick just took a crap!

[@ICHIBAN-cz8ih]

Joey Ryan is a joke to the industry.

[@DavidLucas-oj6ju]

I never liked Joey Ryan at all

[@ICHIBAN-cz8ih]

@@DavidLucas-oj6ju thank fuck he's gone for good

[@PaladinLostHour]

The thing is - Ryan's about as over as he's ever going to get - I don't think RoH or Lucha are interested in a second go, he'll never work NXT, and pretty much every other indie books him regularly. There were plenty of dudes on that card who could get pushed - Ricochet, Sydal, Dunne, Seven, Bate, Jeff Cobb (why isn't he in WWE), War Machine (why aren't they in WWE), Jimmy Havoc, Charlie Sterling....all of these guys are legit and deserve more opportunities in context than Ryan.

[@NintendoPsycho]

WWEkids y'all.

[@lastdragon55]

He did find himself back in Impact.

[@rikcartman3874]

Dont say jimmy havoc is legit to corny

[@knightowlofhorde385]

Well, in the future of the present... This a-hole Joey Ryan was outed as a creep and for taking advantage of women. Hope the guys who spun on his dick feel the shame that they did it for the rest of their lives, because I have to live with the shame people I once liked did shit like this!

[@fmdof]

The comment section here is A LOT different than on the Jim Cornette Talking Sense channel.

[@mavis4711humphries]

Joey Ryan is a human bowel movement. Corney is definitely on point here. And furthermore, I think even Ricardo Rodriguez would whip Ryan's tush up one side and down the other. A shame he's retired, though. That's a match I'd love to see happen.

[@jonathanhoward9533]

Foley is the kind of guy who would do the spot because as Corny says he's too nice. My problem is that I grew up doing stunners and elbow drops to my friends, I grew up putting my friends in camel clutches and sharpshooters but these kids today see guys doing dick spots and an inordinate amount of somersaults and hitting each other with light tubes.

[@spheremode3271]

Dude, you really shouldn't do those either if you're not trained.

[@joshsaunders6392]

@@spheremode3271 you just don't know how to have a good time

[@spheremode3271]

@@joshsaunders6392 Listen, motherfucker, you can fucking break your neck like an idiot all you want, but I'm leaving that shit to the professionals, OK? I'm not out there expecting Roman Reigns to do engineering, so I should not be expected to jump all over the house like a spaz to be "fun"

[@joshsaunders6392]

@@spheremode3271 its called sarcasm spergatron how many match sticks did I just drop on the floor

[@thommytsunami]

Here's my opinion on the justification of "a smile on every face." All those faces look alike. Nearly all male, all around the same age. And it looks just like the crowd at my local indie that does dumb stuff like fat guys dressed as babies. Women, older fans, families... all have been pretty much driven off. So yeah the fans were smiling because all that's left are fans that would smile over dumb stuff. Those of us who don't stay at home.

[@miaouew]

I like how he pronounces his name McFoley

[@jessebowman161]

honestly, mick is awesome and I love him to death. however, here is a guy who loves the wrestling business so much and wants to give back to it that the idea of doing so has addled his brain.

[@ridleyroid9060]

So, will we be looking at a restraining order placed by Mick Foley on Cornette?

[@DNAsGhostzHouze]

Shane Douglas wrote the letter, didn't he?

[@AmongGangstas]

0:25 ASMR

[@Cajunman1977-k3f]

I knew Jim would flip out.

[@rumtuckskatter]

Has Cornette ranted about Marty Scurll's finger break spot yet?

[@rodjohnson6408]

This reminds me of the scene in Less Than Zero when the main character first finds out that the Robert Downey Jr character is selling his buttocks for the cocoa

[@ashleyquintanar727]

Remember when Kane's pyro would hit as a kid? :(

[@Jackalblade9]

....this really just makes me sad.

[@DarkBlueBaker]

This "move" is the most obviously... I don't want to say fake and wrestling in the same sentence out of respect. I'll say it severely abused my suspension of disbelief and WTF is an understatement. I've seen botches on TV that looked more legit!

[@ASCUMBAGWh0re]

Its fake dude! And idc i hate it. Aslo dont care if you're a chick cuz ill still call you dude. K?🙄🙄

[@wayne6777]

Fake fighting is fake.

[@SpiralPoli]

What a fall from grace.

[@heatheryllanes6925]

When ken shamrock fought kimbo slice the fight was so bad that people actually thought it was fixed ken was not aggressive when confronted about this he said something to the effect of I think I've earned the right to fight for fun and he was right i feel the same way about mick he has earned the right to have fun and be as silly as he chooses to be

[@SlidingRhino]

It was fixed, he actually woke Kimbo up cause he was knocked out at one point. Just a paying job.

[@knightowlofhorde385]

Yeah, to playfully frolick with a sex offenders penis, and make me feel revolted that he used to be one of my favorite wrestlers. Did he even come out as being ashamed of this after it got out all the shit Ryan did? Or was he still proud of this...travesty!

[@rumtuckskatter]

Just to keep things in perspective....Cornette wrestled an effing Teenage Mutant Turtle. If you don't realize that's just as business killing as the dick spot then I don't know what to tell you. And I say this as a huge fan of Cornette.

[@donaldthompson6595]

This isn’t even gimmick wrestling, this is legitimately making the business a complete joke. Joey Ryan couldn’t make it in TNA or anywhere else if the companies actually want to be taken seriously. I’ve been a wrestling fan since my grandma and dad took me to SECW growing up. We had the Rip Rogers and Exotic Adrian Street but I seriously doubt they would allow this garbage in the ring with them. They would have beat Joey Ryan down. I refuse to watch this junk. Don’t agree with you on everything Mr. Jim Cornette, however this I do.

[@stephensmith9093]

But people say wrestling always been silly

[@MaxZorin2099]

If Ryan could go back in time, I wonder if he’d do the dick spot again. It killed any chance he might have had of being viewed as a real wrestler.

[@Matt-cr4vv]

He absolutely would have. One has to remember he didn’t start with that move or character. The first time he did it was in 2015. He started training in like 2000 and had wrestled for years before the dixk spot. He’d been in TNA and ROH already. He’d had dark matches multiple times in WWE. Then he did this stupid thing and suddenly he was in news media and got sponsorships. If he ever thought he has a chance in the mainstream wrestling companies it never would’ve happened.

[@knightowlofhorde385]

Maybe he wouldn't of gone into the whole trying to intimidate women to sleep with him thing either, though it is likely he would just go back to do it all over again, and try and figure out a way to keep his less than stellar ways out of the news...

[@hardlytheheadlines]

Musicians and radio announcers are probably the only other professions that make less. I'm pretty sure professional ping-pong players are making more now!

[@def8136]

What y'all really thought about a sock going down a throat? Opponent couldve easily stopped it but it still happened.

[@retronerdlife4292]

DAMMIT Jim I'm an entertainer, not a wrestler!

[@jackmcgregor4025]

Golf went way up

[@joshuaarmand5236]

American wrestling will always suck! The only thing that can save it is for southern wrestling to get back on its feet again. We need 2-3 big southern territories to rise up and build themselves up. At least in southern wrestling, it's treated like a sport and not a soap opera/circus/comic book/cartoon/homoerotic shit sandwich

[@maxxdahl6062]

As much as I would absolutely LOVE that, I doubt it would happen. Today's fan are too of the mind that "If it's not WWE it's automatically shit!" frame of mind. I would love to see one in the memphis style (hell maybe in the old memphis territory area), one like world class or southwest, or one like the carolinas.

[@declanallen356]

Steiner got booked against joey Ryan and worked the duck spot

[@CairnieR]

How hasn't people got bored of Joey Ryans shtick yet? Like how isn't this dickflip spot getting old yet for most people? Joey Ryan needs to stay in the stupid, joke promotions like DDT. Also who was Jim talking about with the new NXT guy no selling after going through a table?

[@ThankYouEdge1992]

Lio Rush

[@nixn6412]

You're a great man

[@thedude4672]

Thank you. I get that a lot.

[@xthe_nojx5820]

Say it ain't so, Mick...

[@knightowlofhorde385]

I wish, I wish it was not true. This seriously hurt my respect for him as a fan, as a man, and as a child that used to think he was so great. Right now I am just lashing out after having seen this travesty of him twisting on some sex offenders dick, not even as hour and twenty minutes ago. Right now I am wanting to delete Mick Foleys videos from my playlist in the Library, that is how bad this has made me feel.

[@geteheh3h3636]

Look up Joey Ryan vs Primate with Cornette on commentary

[@KangDo]

I don't resent Joey Ryan because he did the dick spot. I resent Joey Ryan because he KEEPS doing the dick spot and it seems to be the only thing he's done that's garnered any recognition.

[@knightowlofhorde385]

Seeing as he has been debriefed as a sex offender, who from what I understand of it pressured women into having sexual relations with him... I wonder what your opinion is now? Me, I resent him since I heard of this horse shit, and the only reason a self respecting person would go along with it is either they think its funny, are attracted to him, or he is intimidating them somehow to go along with it. Looking with hindsight, it sounds like a number of women did it because they had no choice...

[@StarlightEater]

The goal is gettin tickets sold! that said its an embarrassment to be a wrestling fan.

[@twilliamspro]

Is anyone else quite happy to see Mick's well enough to take bumps in general given at the hall of fame mick Said he'd used up his Bump Card. Maybe we might see one more WWE Foley Match

[@timf7413]

With his hip replacement, I doubt WWE would clear him, even if he wanted to.

[@mastersakuya2579]

You know what.... I'm not a fan of Omega.... BUT you know what.... If Omega wrestling a 8 year old when he was still a young guy making a name for himself, before he had any kind of pull back stage in a comedy promotion hurts the credibility of the sport... Then WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU CALL HARLY RACE STARING IN THE "Wrestling Secrets Exposed" shows while he was an established legend in the fucking sport....

[@thenorsenut380]

Listening to this in 2024.. Cornette sounds different now. He's softened up and been desensitized to shit like this after reviewing aew's bull shit for so many years now. He had more anger and disgust in his voice back then.

[@derrickw3360]

Now t with all these allegations against Joey Ryan it makes me look at his gimmick in a WAY different way. He was probably doing it so women could touch his dick. If I was a wrestler I wouldn't be koo wit him doin his finisher to me...Fuck THAT!!! I would fuck him up. This dude was nothing but a predator...The amount of women who came forward is CRAZY. He should be outta wrestling forever!!! I wonder wat the Young Bucks will do about this. I kno they're in the process of taking down every BTE video that Joey Ryan has appeared in. I just wonder if the Young Bucks will completely cut him off. Idk if there really good friends or not. I'm very curious to see how they handle all of these allegations to multiple friends of theirs.

[@matthewsmith7361]

God damn where's the real wrestlin.

[@Slammer_1970]

Against Scott Steiner! Steiner would kill him both in the ring and on the mic.

[@lastdragon55]

Chris Roberts Scott Steiner worked with Joey Ryan earlier this year. He didn’t do the dick flip, but he sold getting hurt when he kneed Joey in the groin.

[@adamturner749]

To put into perspective the rise other sports have had over the years in comparison to pro wrestling going right down. In 1979 an English football (soccer) player called Trevor Brooking signed a record £1 million move to Nottingham Forest fast forward to the 2016-2017 season Neymar Jr completes a record setting move to PSG for £200 million and earns £537000 a week for the next 5 years. I put that into dollars that’s a $270 million move to PSG and over $726 thousand a week. It shows how far behind pro wrestling has fallen in comparison to other sports across the world.

[@toptenguy1]

I haven't listened to the entire video yet, but let's not forget that Foley was the guy who had hardcore matches where bags of popcorn were used as a weapon vs Owen Hart around 1997. So is anyone really surprised about this? :)

[@billybarnett9518]

Yeah but, a dick flip? That just seems even more ridiculous imo.

[@scottbreon9448]

He doesn't actually flip people with his own dick, he grabs his opponent's dick and suplexes them Still cringy though

[@billybarnett9518]

+Scott Breon Does it really matter?

[@jasonbowser5754]

I do have to think Cornette. Until I heard about this on his podcast forever ago, I never heard of this before so I had to look it up. It’s hilarious 😂😂😂

[@swaglike2802]

Too bad Scott Steiner also had too get in on this stupid gimmick

[@TheeCoachg]

Noooooooo

[@georgejackson4426]

Fuck Scott Steiner make Ryan go against New Jack and tell him Ryan called him a racial slur.

[@brianobey4368]

I'm not going to say his name but I ll put his name in the title

[@tysontomko]

Haha

[@jackphantom]

"Wrestlers are paid less than any other type of entertainer!" #laughs_in_jazz_musician

[@wayne6777]

Knowing jazz musicians make terrible money warms my heart. Man I hate jazz. Glad it’s not a popular genre.

[@crappiekingdre6231]

Jim I was one of the guys you talked about when mentioning Kenny Omega I'm from Arkansas been watching wrestling since I was 5 I'm forty something now Vince killed the territories and told everyone that would listen wrestling was fake and start calling it sports entertainment Vince did that wrestling will never be the same for those reasons I joined the military I didn't watch it for years. The NWO and the Monday night wars brought me back but I still like WCW better until they just got shitty. Me as a fan don't have the option like in the 80's to watch at least 5 different companies on TV I hate the dumb shit to and so do alot of people but what do we have has fans to watch it's that or nothing I feel sorry because I don't think wrestling will be around much longer it's sometimes is a joke I don't want to lose it. It brought me so much joy in my childhood now it's a few wrestlers world wide I enjoy instead of in each territory.

[@mriddley]

Why Mick you didnt need the money so why

[@kristenelaythe2348]

I just remembered,didn't Al Snow train Joey ?That,s probably why Mick put his shit over,now I get it

[@maxxdahl6062]

No, Al didn't train Joey.

[@buckyhate7695]

If AL Snow trained Joey, He'd be a reasonable wrestler, with reasonable respect for the business.

[@Matt-cr4vv]

No he wasn’t trained by Al Snow. But he had a feud and interaction with Al on the TNA Gut Check segment years back. He has said the bulk of his training was with Tom Howard and Brian Kendrick but ironically he also spent time being trained by Bryan Danielson. He became what he became in all likelihood because what he’d been doing wasn’t getting him to any major level in the industry and doing the dick spot resulted in a lot of exposure and a sponsorship from some porn company. I guess I can kinda get why you’d do it because even if it isn’t what you imagined it’s still probably well above anything you’d been making or exposure you’d had before. And he’d spent time in two other main promotions and had dark matches in the WWE without any major success so I imagine being taken serious was probably little importance to him by the time he started doing the spot. I always thought it was the dumbest shit but I guess if my choice was to be unknown and make peanuts or be infamous and make a decent living I can’t say for sure I’d be adamant to not do it. Hard to truly say without the numbers in front of me to fully gauge the choice he made. But in the end it is clear he’s a shitty dude and it came full circle in the end for him.

[@SharksRule86]

That letter from a wrestler sounds like it’s from Bob Holly.

[@donaldlanese7173]

Or rick martel

[@blonded0532]

Is there a single young wrestler corny likes besides MJF?

[@peterpepa3041]

The Revival

[@BikiniDeathSquad]

Most indie wrestlers live in poverty, but they still do it cause they're marks haha.

[@dragoninwinter]

You know, I think Corny's kind of down on this guy. 😂

[@terrybrown5402]

Let's face it..Mick loves having fun,and if he thinks he's having fun and doing something he thinks is funny then he's going to do it. The fact that it was the "hardcore" legend may be too hard for you folks to stomach,but who gives a damn. Kayfabe is dead,wrestling the way we all knew it once upon a time is dead. Either accept that you are going to occasionally see something you don't like,or move to Japan. That's really the only choice you have if you don't want to see a comedy act. It's become nothing more than slapstick comedy largely in part to WWE.

[@patrickwilliams6143]

If we're booking Scott Steiner against Joey Ryan can we please make sure it's an hour ironman match?

[@Dynaman21]

Circus, Jim. Circus performers has gone down. And that’s what pro wrestlers are. If they meet the fate of Ringling Brothers, it’s because the circus is outdated.

[@Airdathegamer]

Yeah, remember when wrestling was huge? It was all a sideshow in a circus back then, right? Hogan handed out cotton candy to passers by, Flair juggled balls, Austin rode an elephant... It’s all circus bullshit and wrestling never took off and became incredibly huge outside of circuses. That’s where Wrestlemania’s are preformed, right? Wrestlemania is just one of the many attractions in a circus. It’s not like the fucking NFL was worried about the ratings of TWO wrestling shows running at the same time slot, or it’s not like the most successful actor in Hollywood owes his career to pro-wrestling. It’s all just an outdated circus performance. Because let me tell you, circuses were huge in 80s and late 90s, which explains why pro-wrestling was so huge as well.

[@rumtuckskatter]

Jim, the Lio Rush was a once in a lifetime long-term storyline conclusion spot. It's not a regular thing he does and there's zero chance he does it again, which is obv for the best. As for Omega and the Young Bucks, those guys are making ridiculous money. I mean their shirts are selling out at Hot Topic for God's sake.

[@rumtuckskatter]

Also speaking of killing the business can we talk about mr socko? The mandible claw is barely believable as a finisher as is. But the sock shoulda been an automatic DQ because it's a foreign object. Was Foley ever DQ'd for using it? Nope and business killed.

[@Dewi666]

I will say it right now joey ryan needs nxt tryout with regal of finaly at the snakepit.

[@lionheart7019]

I don’t know why, but Joey Ryan’s look reminds me of Stan Lee in the 70s.

[@knightowlofhorde385]

He reminds me more of a wannabe Porn Star, while Stan was trying to look distinguished. Either way, Stan has my respect, and Ryan is a miserable sack of human garbage.

[@davidhadley1391]

Jim puts the heat on the wrong people. You blame the indy guys who have been told to figure out a way to get themselves over. They come up with their own stuff Jim villifies them. They're out trying to make their money just like you were trying to make yours in the territory days. Why are we blaming these guys trying to make thier way instead of the people who came before who are the ones who should have guided them better? Blame the fucking Attitude Era, and the hokey bullshit gimmicks from wrestling's past that influenced these guys.

[@allenglass3461]

Yes. Because the mandible claw is such a realistic move.

[@brucewhite360]

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[@seymourclarity8702]

in the pro wrestling business, all publicity is good publicity, so everyone complaining about Ryan are assisting in filling his wallet. the worst thing you can do to a wrestler is ignore them. Cornette seems to have forgotten this.

[@seymourclarity8702]

also, all of the comments wishing violence on a wrestler are immature and rather insecure.

[@knightowlofhorde385]

@@seymourclarity8702 So what are your thoughts on this now that all Ryan's perverted laundry was aired?

[@seymourclarity8702]

@@knightowlofhorde385 apparently Ryan is or was in therapy for his "sexual addiction". I hope this is true .

[@seymourclarity8702]

It's hard ror me because Candice is one of my favourite wrestlers,

[@instantclassic318]

Joey Ryan makes Michael Nakazawa looks great!!!!!!!

[@bunkaiking]

Wrestling is partly about the fans enjoying the action. Not about how much money you make jim!

[@ricstormwolf]

Mick Foley did it because he's just a glorified stunt man. He did a stunt. He jobbed for a jobber. Don't know why Corny holds him in such high esteem.

[@The29Dave]

Now I want Joey Ryan on NXT

[@uns33n]

I mean mick did use a sock as a finisher for years.

[@malcolmboyd3467]

Pro Wrestling is a form of entertainment and people were entertained by this. Not everyone likes the same style of wrestling and just because you don't like a particular style doesn't mean it's bad, or that it's destroying the buisness, or that the people involved are now a joke and should be ashamed of themselves. At least that's my opinion on the matter

[@NJones-ru4hu]

It is not entertainment it is wrestling; but it doesn't matter because wrestling is dead.

[@billybarnett9518]

I guess I see what you're saying, but Joey Ryan to me seems like, ironically, a dick.

[@terrybrown5402]

Jim I love you brother, but you are living in the past. You need to understand that wrestling isn't how it used to be. Mick Foley did it because he likes having fun and thought it would make the audience happy. And that's exactly what happened, but I get it jim you think everyone should do the same worn out cactus jack thumbtacks and barbed wire routine. But facts are Mick can't do that anymore without risking his health. But I do agree with you that Joey Ryan probably was the wrong person to try to elevate by doing a spot,but Mick doesn't look at it that way.

[@Hard562010]

If he doesn't like then you don't have to listen to him because the dick spot IS STUPID!!!!

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

The dick spot is stupid - but so are the crybabies treating it like the death-throes of wrestling. What a bunch of fucking drama-queens and Corny is the biggest fucking cry-baby of them all. Fucking guy made himself obsolete in the business and then uses his newly-found legitimacy as a living-meme to endear his has-been bullshit to a new generation of internet smart-marks. Give me a fucking break - this is a gimmick that like any gimmick will come, live out its relevance, and then die. That's it. Nothing to cry into your fucking tennis racket about, Corny.

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

"If he doesn't like it you don't have to listen" - If you don't like the dick spot you don't have to watch it, fuckboy. That logic works both ways.

[@Zman9042]

Goddamn y'all some intense people

[@kevinbudzisch3811]

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[@diluted8]

Like number 666 am I cursed?

[@xoynialedmc]

Not unless you take microchipping/artificial intelligence mark of the beast 666 from the bible revelation 13 16 you can't buy or sell without taking it.

[@timf7413]

At some point, Cornette has to realise he's tilting at windmills.

[@mrbadguysan]

Tim Fak he isn't tilting at windmills; he's fucking right and there won't be windmills to tilt at if this keeps up.

[@timf7413]

It doesn't matter who's "right". The business is what it is now and it's never going to change back to what he wants it to be.

[@mrbadguysan]

Tim Fak it doesn't matter if it doesn't go back to the way it used to be, it won't last if it stays the way it is now. Dick spots and invisible hand grenades don't get over with most human beings.

[@timf7413]

That still doesn't mean it's going to change. As Cornette himself said, their fanbase is "small but fervent" and they're not going to stop doing what they're doing just because people outside of that fanbase don't like them. There's literally no way to stop this kind of comedy wrestling from occurring (as long as it still has it's own niche audience), so it's pointless to complain about it constantly. Cornette's fighting a war that's already long over. PWG will always be able to fill up the bingo hall in Reseda, and for them that's all that matters. They'll be doing just fine even if the mainstream wrestling industry tanks.

[@mrbadguysan]

Tim Fak what are you talking about?! It's absolutely going to change when the mouth-breathers get tired of watching two dogs fuck in a ring and quit showing up.