Jim Cornette on Dave Meltzer

From Episode 201 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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[@MorganFreemansFavoriteFreckle]

“Jim Cornette on Dave Meltzer” *48 minutes* Oh boy

[@henrikschmidt3964]

My thoughts exactly. I may listen to this bit by bit.

[@JMG_86]

* small cough * _"Let me tell you something about Uncle Dave real quick ..."_

[@bigcstevens187]

I think Jim and Dave just need a sit down together to work out this friendship

[@supergluehotty]

"HERE WE GO!"

[@dcontrerasm]

@@theskeeboo thank you

[@dieselkilgore]

"I'm not socially awkward, I hate people to begin with."

[@philleclerc4283]

Preach, Brother Jim!

[@frankblack4303]

LMFAO, fucking had to replay it bc i had to double take my hearing.

[@BigKlassic]

🤣🤣🤣

[@christiankarlkarganilla2763]

Same bro. Same.

[@elmustardtiger8507]

When Brian said, "Dave is in a mid-life crisis in a wrestling bubble." - what an absolute put-down. Brutal.

[@LordRaptor]

It's so accurate, it's like his take on Matt Hardy and Chris Jericho, absolutely spot on, these C list washed-up celebs, or in Dave's case, a never-was, pseudo-celeb who are completely out of touch with reality, including their own job.

[@jenisia3600]

Exactly

[@thejanglezclan]

You could describe so many of these wrestling "journalists" the exact same way. It's so pathetic.

[@CatsClaw44]

Ruthless

[@ryancorrigan4149]

But pot meet kettle, amirite?

[@BrandonMobley614]

"Dave has become the 60 year old man going to the K-pop concerts trying to fit in." - The Great Brian Last

[@hasanz7585]

I was dying at jim describing how Dave "no sold" him ending their friendship haha

[@Jacob-2796]

That's the most standard wrestling phrase going. No selling is a state of mind backstage.

[@hellion7514]

“He can barely get through a sentence!” Dave responds: “Well, you know, I mean, you know, basically, it’s like, I mean, you know.”

[@facejobby]

'...which is fine..... but, uh....'

[@x-buttongaming5764]

...and another thing is uhh, like well, what I find interesting is... y'know well really what I mean is...

[@matt92550]

shitting on how someone talks is punching down and is not funny

[@Mdoodatt]

@@matt92550 the point is Meltzer didn't always talk like that and his inability to effectively communicate is a sign of his overall deterioration.

[@treehugger7976]

@@matt92550 "well, like, you know, actually, well, ok if your, and here's there thing"

[@thecake6635]

Dave Meltzer legit sent Corny a "well actually" email LMAO

[@Jacob-2796]

Nah, it was just trivia 'from one obsessive to another'. Corny didn't have any issue with that. He saw it as cordial.

[@mackspowah3281]

Kenny: "Jim Cornette is deplorable because he says things" Also Kenny: "Chasyn Rance? Don Callis? Look I dont know what you're talking about "

[@joshuabrown5123]

One has to ask if Kenny is just as guilty as Chasyn and Don.

[@theatheistbrony9332]

@@joshuabrown5123 Would it be a surprise to hear he knew about Joey Ryan's bullshit before it became public?

[@joshuabrown5123]

@@theatheistbrony9332 Not at all. I'm just hoping someone can push these incidents in the media so that it puts TNT in a position to address them. And by addressing them, forces AEW to remove Callis, Omega, Jericho, etc. from the show.

[@franklinrichardson757]

Kenny is deplorable because he’s taking a Cluess man money that doesn’t know the business he’s makes Dixe Carter look real smart and the cokookamaga twins is bow down to their senile Uncle Dave

[@wnrr2696]

@@joshuabrown5123 what happened?

[@azapro911]

Imagine 1991 Dave Meltzer reviewing 2021 Dave Meltzer in the Observer. Negative two stars at best.

[@misterpinkandyellow74]

Dave Meltzer used to speak more clearly.

[@smileykid18]

@@misterpinkandyellow74 it's like night and day hearing Dave from the 90s to the Dave in 2021.

[@supergluehotty]

MINUS FIVE STARS! jk

[@vannavanity1195]

@@supergluehotty 1991 Meltzer wasn't wasn't better. His feigned outrage over the Persian Gulf was as much of fake news as I've ever seen it. That stuff with Slaughter was too campy and comedic to be taken seriously. Pro wrestling has always been exploitative art. I don't see the issue He also wrote long columns lamenting about snitching on Jake Roberts, signaling his virtue by citing Bruiser Brody's advice to him that he's to always tell the truth. Yet did he ever talk about the gross sexual assaults in wrestling that I'm almost certain he knew about? He apparently knew about Bill DeMott's hazing, then said nothing. I understand the need to protect your sources as a journalist, but don't go on about being a truth teller. He never was and he has always had an axe to grind. Even his anti-steroid nonsense about McMahon was fake news as well. The Feds had no case, and it surprises me that it wasn't dismissed in pre-trial motions upon discovery. Meltzer, of course, blamed that on prosecutors for not understanding the business. But it wasn't that. The best he could argue, which is highly tenuous, is that McMahon conspired steroid trafficking by rewarding bulked up, chemically enhanced bodies. Somehowitt escaped him that people like Akeem, Andre the Giant, and Earthquake, who all had top programs, likely weren't juicing. His journalism isn't wholly worthless but it's vastly incomplete. I'm not surprised that insiders tend to dislike him given how much weight he's (wrongly) given

[@countbrackmoor]

Did he still overuse writing tropes like starting sentences with: “the bad thing about…”?

[@GeorgeWrightTheMayor]

I'm seriously considering getting Jim saying "fuck you" as my text alert tone

[@davo6682]

It'll be in Corey's collectables next week lol

[@skyblaze1134]

I'm stealing this idea

[@CaptLoquaLacon]

Better: Later on in the show he gets a phone call, and just fires off a burst like "Don't Have None, Don't Want None, Don't Do None. Take your pick and F*** OFF!!!" - that might even be worth using on an answerphone message...

[@roelzavala8014]

"Fuck you fuck off" is the ultimate funny

[@TheVoidofNothing11]

@@CaptLoquaLacon Thanks for the heads up haven't heard the episode yet lol

[@mcole442]

I'm with Team Corny: He's been in and around the wrestling business for over 40 years, and he's still DRAWING MONEY......he's seen wrestling from EVERY ANGLE u can see it from.....when he tells u something is good or bad, he also explains WHY it's good or bad......he puts u right in the action from the perspective of someone who's "been there"........😏

[@lagoo1982]

The best part of this entire vid is how much Jim and Brian stand up for each other. It's the best.

[@agentnine3973]

It is so cutw

[@AliSubhi-xs4rn]

Well now I know what I'm listening to once dinner is ready.

[@willreap2257]

I thought the same thing but on my break at work! Lol

[@Magipot6]

I listen as I cook, meal comes out better lol

[@messey12]

I'm listening as I'm making dinner. Pan pizza tonight, folks!

[@willreap2257]

@@messey12 I’m on til 10. Save me some! 😂

[@trvnquillityvii6418]

Already ahead of you.

[@MetlKen87]

Once everyone goes back to realizing social media isn't real life, everything will get better for everyone.

[@notgonnapay]

Or, if people start treating others on social media like how they would treat them in real life.

[@skyblaze1134]

This is what I've been saying! It's just an app and people take it as life and the law.

[@georgemaranville3305]

I agree but that bell cannot be un-rung.

[@MetlKen87]

@@notgonnapay People are garbage. Thats not going to change. Expecting them to will only lead to your disappointment.

[@bootneyfarnsworth2844]

Unfortunately, it is real life for sooooo many people

[@deangreenwood1304]

This was personally my favorite rant from Jim! The way he says bosom get me everytime! 🤣🤣🤣

[@richardjohann552]

They have taken him to their boosom. 😂

[@DefendYoungstown]

Jim: "We're not friends anymore! Thank you, fuck you, bye!" Meltzer: "Well... you know... plans change."

[@aretnap3653]

"Fondling HimSelf While Thinking of ReeHoe Matches!" 😂

[@VersaceVyper]

Meltzer is just disillusional. The fact he thought jobber Nick Jackson had a better match than HBK vs Taker at WM25 is hilarious.

[@davey3884]

Delusional* is the word you are looking for lol

@@davey3884 *deleuzianal

[@cwright-noche]

That’s insane

[@VersaceVyper]

@@cwright-noche I know right, it's subjective all right but still

[@VersaceVyper]

@@davey3884 Yeah.. Because the grammar was really the thing that got people confused right

[@paulkersey1007]

3 things: 1. I appreciate Jim and Brian defending their listeners and FU Omega. 2. I love it when Brian goes off on someone it's subject. Makes me proud to be a NY/NJ guy who now lives in Maryland. 3. Fuck modern wrestling.

[@bigrigjoe5130]

That little bit at the end about Jim and Brian not knowing why they get along was the most wholesome part of any podcast Jim Cornette has ever done

[@_paul]

Uncle Dave will say and do anything to remain relevant in a world that needs him less and less

[@markfroman738]

He’s such a creepy weirdo.

[@malvado533]

I wouldn’t burn an (AEW)Observer because that means I’d have to buy one. 😂😂😂 Is that still a magazine? 😂

[@DingDongDaddyFromDumas933]

Dave is useless. Remind is Cornette booking shows? What is he doing exactly from the same bit over and over? It's very odd how people listen to the same Corny rant over and over and over and over.

[@MichaelSmith-fq6hz]

By Meltzer's logic, Sam was responsible for the Son of Sam.

[@troystaunton254]

That dog was persuasive though😂🤣

[@seanbarton4940]

Just like that time Jodi Foster got that guy to shoot Reagan by......... existing.

[@xmikerx666]

But did he eat green eggs and ham?

[@henrikschmidt3964]

One of my main 'triggers' is being told that I don't 'really' mean it, when stating my opinion. It is so insulting.

[@RandalfElVikingo]

Don't worry, that means those douches don't care about their own opinions, that means they represent nothing.

[@jaweiss34]

Loved this clip, but I can't stop laughing at the "people started eating cow shit off the side of the road and liking it, but he won't.. he's out of touch!" Best thing I've ever heard.

[@thaboyshawn5911]

I literally have a playlist for Jim and uncle Dave

[@RoadsterExpress]

can you make it public so I can save it in my library?

[@thaboyshawn5911]

@@RoadsterExpress yea I got you bro

[@thaboyshawn5911]

@@RoadsterExpress I made it public

[@thaboyshawn5911]

@@RoadsterExpress you can save it

[@andrewtadeo5644]

Me too

[@Kingofthekop1]

A 40 minute segment on Meltzer, yes this is gonna be good. And its becoming like a monthly thing now 😂

[@wah666]

jim went in as always but holy shit, absolutely LOVED how brian precisely dismantled dave. I liked how jim really emphasized his decades-long friendship/relationship with dave, but brian with his third-party perspective had a unique catharsis to it.

[@kraschelandocoot1516]

You know Jim still cares when he actually gives credit where it's due while burying someone for 48 minutes.

[@DrowningSorrows1]

Whenever Corny talks about one subject for nearly an hour it's always great.

[@storkfletcher821]

Especially when he tries to defend people that sexually harrass people while only giving scorn to people that happen to wrestle in a way he doesn't like. Great guy.

[@tboland728]

Lots of sharp breaths and aggravated interjections lol

[@wilcee238]

Meltzer’s going to start talking to Russo to make Corny jealous. “Heyyy bro…”

[@TheFailedmessiah]

Yep, Meltzer is going to go on the brand with Vince Russo, just to trash Jim loli

[@grimsvaultstreaming3956]

@@TheFailedmessiah it clear jim and russo are the same lvl of shit you just dont want to see it

[@calikid05]

Russo hates Meltzer too but might use him to get at Jim

[@grimsvaultstreaming3956]

@@calikid05 you people need to realize that jim and russo dont matter its a running joke everything they say and do is one big joke

[@davidhunt3689]

@Aaron Lassiter And BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE

[@AAK-Von]

Just wanna take a minute to appreciate bryan for standing by jim in this situation, we see Dave's stabbing jim in the back, but its easy to miss that Bryan is stepping up and standing with jim here rather than sitting back and ignoring everything

[@josephorzel9814]

The "bank addicted drug robber" is now in AEW can't wait for that reaction 🤣🤣🤣

[@kashifreza1993]

I wanna see Travis art on that And his reaction to that

[@tempestfennac9687]

I really don't know why they want him. I'm tempted to blame Joey Janella for this being as I know Gage wrestled on at least one event which he promoted.

[@micahjohnsonboxing6409]

@@tempestfennac9687 Probably Moxleye set it up.

[@tempestfennac9687]

@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 Good point. I forgot about Mox praising him on that documentary until after I blamed Joey.

[@gcrumps]

Andre the Giant V Hogan Brett V Shawn Michaels Undertaker V Mankind Stone Cold V Rock Jim Cornette V Uncle Dave

[@bennywatts4174]

Cornette vs Russo is better

[@TheLibermania]

@@bennywatts4174 It's the prequel everyone loves before the sequel tires everyone out.

[@AWX_Wrestling]

@@bennywatts4174 how about a triple threat match... Cornette vs Russo vs Meltzer... in a HELLLL IN A CELLLLL MATCH!!!

[@brandonizaguirre2963]

I hope we get a Dark Side of the Ring episode of Cornette vs. Meltzer in the future

[@ASwagPecan]

or just Meltzer vs. The Truth

[@daleharris3809]

A Dark Side episode on dirt sheets in general would be very entertaining

[@CarlosMedina-vj7ot]

@@ASwagPecan Meltzer vs Reality.

[@layersofjade5197]

Miss Elizabeth had a really hairy muff and so does Debra

[@ronniejdio9411]

Only when one of them dies / suicide

[@nichhodge8503]

I’m a Cornette fan and I don’t have a low I.Q! I got my doctorate in quantum physics from Cambridge University in 2005 and have an I.Q of 173 and have all the paperwork to prove it, I can’t speak for every Jim Cornette fan but I can certainly speak for myself. I first saw Jim Cornette in 93 when he joined the WWF as WCW wasn’t on Sky TV (satellite tv) until 95 when Nitro started on TNT and back then I hated Cornette and it wasn’t until I was an adult that I ended up thinking Cornette is absolutely amazing

[@nelson9260]

Hello from the uk. I absolutely love everything on this show. Every episode. Only to say, this isn't a ancient regional news letter. This a world wide superb show, with a world wide audience. You are an amazing tag team. Keep up the great work. Thanks

[@TakerKaneanite619]

22:30 So basically, what he's saying is..."Nobody should give this guy any attention, while I give him attention in my Newsletter." Great job Uncle Dave.

[@bubblesthemonkey6615]

Right? Such a self refuting argument.

[@vannavanity1195]

Cornette just wants someone to listen to him and validate what he grew up watching and participating in, which is why he always found in Meltzer a ready audience. Meltzer has always had a shallow, algorithmic view of wrestling, whose ratings could be predicted by AI, and who amounts to a Ralph Nader consumer advocate of wrestling. It's hard to feel bad for Cornette given that he long has had an axe to grind. More dignified people would just retire instead of watching wrestling he hates, then whining about it every week. I'm sure he has more than enough to retire

[@vladdebrancovan7011]

this literally sums up Dave Meltzer

[@vannavanity1195]

@@fruitjoosh9555 If you were remotely astute (you're clearly not), I'm a woman and I watched maybe 2 minutes of AEW in its entire existence to know that the product isn't any good. The factions in this aren't a binary and this isn't a football game, though that might be beyond your cognitive grasp. Cornette is the most guilty person of breaking kayfabe since Eddy Mansfield. He also has been a snitch to a shallow autistic character like Meltzer for years. It's pretty clear that Cornette is motivated by promoting a certain brand of rasslin to which he's drawn and that arguably has not been marketable since 1987. That he got burnt by his own yard dog is more poetic justice than however he's trying to frame the issue re Meltzer. Meltzer only likes MOVEZ. That has been obvious for decades. That Cornette was too much of a mark for himself to notice that is no virtue on his end. Meltzer didn't change, as Cornette maintains. Meltzer has always been that way. As for my words, well, unlike you, I read and listen to arguments carefully. I set up premises, claims, arguments, evidence through many different methods, and conclusions. You, on the other hand, are clumsy, intellectually and otherwise. That's why I was admitted to top universities, and you weren't. See how that works? It's so ungodly amusing that you'd think I'd be interested in some incel, neckbeard smark promotion like AEW. Get a grip. Cornette is a hypocrite. For all his whining about how others expose the business, he sure likes to get himself over by doing that and doing it more than just about anyone else I can think. Look at his 1997 shoots on Raw and tell me how any of what he said made any sense without a kayfabe context. My brand of wrestling hasn't been around in 30 years. Please work on your reading comprehension as well. I'm actually teaching the GRE Verbal later today.

[@vannavanity1195]

I swear, Johnny D's reply makes even less sense upon my having read my initial reply. He sounds more confused than Gino Hernandez on a blow binge 🤣

[@shayanakbarry]

Dave and Twinkletoes are just using the modern media techniques, somebody criticizes your craft, you attack them using moral points. Fuck them. Go Corny, we'll always be behind you.

[@gabrielxbb723]

Twinkletoes is omega?

[@pranp1217]

@@gabrielxbb723 yeah

[@destinyson23]

Jim Cornette is the master of the promo. He is just honest 😆

[@mjolden]

Meltzer is turning into Stacy from Wayne's World, "We broke up months ago!"

[@JamesSmith-tk6pg]

Dave: "that doesn't mean we still can't go out..."

[@matthewkey689]

If Cornette isn’t careful he is gonna lose Dave.

[@snakeman6124]

YOU WIN

[@neversatisfied4123]

When’s Meltzer going to give Cornette a gun rack?

[@matthewkey689]

@@neversatisfied4123 I don’t think Cornette owns A gun, let alone many guns, that would necessitate an entire rack.

[@VinnieGer]

Dawg, he’s just spoiling us today.

[@markfroman738]

Cornette always finds the weakest link. Lol

[@dngn4774]

After decades of Meltzer believing he knows more about booking than every other promoter (without ever actually running a promotion himself) there finally comes a company that shares most of his takes on modern wrestling and now he feels a personal need to safeguard it to prove that his opinions were objectively true all along. So much of his ego is wrapped up in AEW that if it ever fails it would tank his reputation.

[@tsaicho]

Good point. I still think AEW/Tony Khan is also paying Meltzer, but doing it by bulk subscribing to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter.

[@theopholusfikes8019]

So true

[@dngn4774]

​@KaneMagus Where are you getting "most people" from? I don't like Meltzer's behavior, but he's still one of the most influential writers in wrestling. He's the main reason any U.S. fans even know who Kenny Omega is.

[@cthulhupthagn5771]

I have had friends like Meltzer. They don't know when they have pushed someone too far, and can't grasp someone may be too angry to deal with them

[@terranceaddison4599]

I got family like meltzer...drives me fucking nuts

[@williamsmith666]

Kenny Omega calling Corny's fans "manchildren"...I wonder if he understood what "irony" is...

[@SamsarasArt]

Nope

[@BuzzsawtheHedgehog]

Anytime Jim talks about Uncle Dave, it's always a must watch video here on this channel.

[@davindavis3085]

For all you young folks out there who don’t get the boiling rabbit reference, there was a scene in the 1987 film Fatal Attraction where a scorned woman (played by Glenn Close), seeking revenge on her ex-lover who she fell in love with during an affair, (played by Michael Douglas), places his family's beloved pet rabbit in a pot of boiling water when he is away from the house.

[@bowhite783]

Right on bro yea i didnt get it i figured it was like the horsehead from godfather or sum tho

[@Cruising_On_Lake_Havasoma]

I knew it was from an 80s movie, just couldn't remember which one.

[@MINERVAtheDREAMEATER]

thanks dad.

[@junnerapokalypsa2079]

I was just looking up a series called fatal attractions when wild pets attack and got that movie a day ago lmao

[@thomasredmond5793]

its a very good movie reference, plus fatal attraction is a very good movie :)

[@TheMan750]

I’m more interested in the heat between Brian and Conrad Thompson

[@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812]

That would be interesting. I'm not a fan of Thompson.

[@fenbops]

I do not agree with Jim politically and I don’t think Omega is a bad wrestler but he critiques wrestling so well, especially the modern stuff. I find it hard to disagree with most of what he says and at the end of the day looking at viewership he’s right, hardly anyone is watching it. Blaming Jim for a mad fan is crazy, Meltzer has lost the plot I think he is on the AEW payroll tbh.

[@DarranKern]

I agree with why Jim hates Omega. And its not because Omega is a so-so overrated wrestler, but because Omega embarrassed the business. Also I vote republican, and when Cornie talks politics I just roll my eyes and hit fast forward

[@paulearl8203]

Lots of us do that. It's not us Republicans trying to get Jim cancelled. I just skip to his wrestling talk and see him as politically ignorant. We can see past these things.

[@derekfelix8188]

When Jim sticks to wrestling, he's great. A lot of what he said is true. Meltzer is out of touch. I don't think Omega is bad. But I get his critiques.

[@longsnake5758]

@@paulearl8203 You actually think the capitol wasn’t attacked

[@nathancullins9301]

Agreed. I'm from the party that thinks the big two are all crooks lol sorry Corny and Omega can put on some great matches... Don't mention Marko or Riho though lol

[@user-do2ev2hr7h]

I love how Cornette pronounces bosom like "booze-um".

[@dadncaleb]

Lightest comment of this whole ordeal lol

[@troIIdier]

Damn, Corny's rants on ol uncle Dave are approaching Russo length

[@DonCrowseppe]

The hatred is building lol

[@popo0129]

I swear I got Russo hate vibes from this lmao. Guess Cornette going to try to outlive both now?

[@mykoniichistorychannel]

@@popo0129 He could. He's younger than both of them.

[@mikeawesome9212]

LOL....WOW!!!! Brain really laid the hammer down on Meltzer in this one. I've never been prouder of Mr. Last for speaking the cold, hard, brutal truth.

[@bryant_gotgame]

0:35 The music in the background playing was hilarious.

[@BuffdatRatt]

Jim Cornette is the best thing left in wrestling.

[@ruinigerwongl3300]

48min about Meltzer... A winner is you!

[@oN3xShOtxkilL]

Can of Coke to you mate

[@TuMalditaMadre]

Great Pro Wrestling on NES reference there!

[@MisterE1976]

@@oN3xShOtxkilL If not Coke,Diet Sprite will suffice.🤣🤣

[@aurelionunziata9729]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@5udimax]

I can't wait to see Jim's reaction on the "Bank addicted drug robber" making an appearance on AEW

[@r.w.randolph7209]

It doesn't hurt my theory that the biggest surprise of all will be Marty "I like 'em Young, Dumb, and Drunk" Scurll.

[@AWX_Wrestling]

I bet they will start putting him over like mfer because he was on Dark side of the ring yet they pretty much did absolutely nothing with Brian Pillman Jr, a talent that any booker with a brain could make something out of.

[@SuperNitroZ64]

@@r.w.randolph7209 😐😐😐😕😕😕

[@nickhughes8179]

Jon Moxley is Tits McGee, Nick Gage is his brother, Methhead McGee

[@michaelh3583]

I think I speak for most of us when I say we would never jump the rails at an AEW event because that means we paid to be at an AEW event in the first place.

[@malvado533]

Brilliant comment 😂👍🏽

[@tonywatts2584]

Excellent comment :)

[@richardpreston7333]

Highly underrated comment

[@jhoninfante8683]

Meltzer finally feels like hes one of the boys when they name a finisher after him and actually hang out with him that's why he will defend them till the end he had a crush on them and I still would not put him past him that hes on the aew payroll the guy is delusional

[@troystaunton254]

This is probably the most accurate thing ever.

[@z2ei]

I started turning on Meltzer way before a lot of people did. Why? Because for at least a decade, he couldn't shut up about MMA. He wouldn't say five words about wrestling without going on a tangent about how great the UFC was, how wrestling needed to be more like it, more 'realistic', and so on. Ever notice how he stopped that right about the time AEW came about?

[@retroshane8844]

The ironic thing is he's now pushing something that couldn't be less realistic

[@alexfromsolitude]

That's from a time MMA was way more over than nowadays. Dave sways with the wind. A hypocrite. A liar.

[@RandalfElVikingo]

Me too, I was surprised to learn that Cornette was friends with the douche.

[@coryfusting9294]

Meltzer has always been biased for certain promotions over the years in phases or binges. All Japan through the 80s and 90s, ROH and Mexico in the early 2000s, New Japan for the last 15 years or so.

[@micahjohnsonboxing6409]

Very true and I never thought of that.

[@GOhimself]

I listen to Cornette pretty much every day. I have no clue who "Dorf Dong Sucker" is but, it sends me into hysterics every time he says it 🤣🤣

[@thefranchise2356]

"I have no clue who "Dorf Dong Sucker" is" Marko Stunt(ed Growth), he did a spot at an outlaw mudshow where another wrestler was working to force him to gag on a dildo in the ring.

[@shawnakasmallchange]

Marco Stunt got forced onto a sex toy by a wrestler in the indies.

[@jacobegleston9806]

The "Dave the Dynamic Dude" face always makes my day better

[@milorc3940]

They keep trying to make sense of someone that is clearly not a rational adult. Whether he’s on the spectrum, or suffers from borderline personality disorder, there is something going on with Dave. His inability to understand boundaries and his rapid switch between idolization and contempt all point to something being wrong. To try to make sense of his actions is futile.

[@PKHalford]

Not even trying to say this as a diss, but when Corny was reading that trivia e-mail from Dave it sounded exactly like how some of the kids with autism I've worked with in the past would speak and write.

[@popo0129]

@@PKHalford Lmao that is kind of true. I remember one I think teenager who had autism was in the video store I was doing my co op in and he basically knew every Dragon Ball Z episode and everything that happened in them. It does remind me of the Meltzer email where he just randomly explains everything even though no one asked for it. I don't mind the Dragon Ball Z guy because he was in the store looking for one of the season DVD's and he wasn't disrespectful at all. Dave on the other hand still knew Jim hates him and doesn't want him to talk to him but just emails him anyways.

[@patrickearles471]

@@PKHalford I'm on the spectrum myself and yeah, that email registered as classic spectrum infodumping to me, the kind I had to sort of teach myself not to do because people don't like it

[@arman_1024]

To be fair, Jim isn’t always the most rational person either. When he’s constantly threatening to kill people, talking about how happy it would make him to kill certain people, making threats on camera, that comes off as a bit messed up in its own right.

[@samokuma9596]

Have to admit, I tought about the spectrum too. If that's it, and the Bucks and co make profit of that, is a new level of low

[@constablekennedy7705]

I was done with Dave Meltzer once he proclaimed the Young Bucks are the Best Tag Team of their Generation?!… 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@paulgarcia9682]

Meltzer is out of touch and The Young Bucks are the equivalent of generic Hardy Boys

[@chadk890]

He actually compared them to the Midnight Express, you got to be ribbing me.

[@brad3042]

I can't figure out how much the Bucks are paying Uncle Dave to suck on their hemmorhoids. They're the true dwarf dongsuckers (why does Jim hate Marko Stunt so much when Marko isn't pushed seriously?)

[@bigc181]

@@brad3042 Because fucking look at the state of Marko Stunt 😂

[@brad3042]

@Ronan The Accuser he's a comedy wrestler and seems to know it. Now, if they push him toward more serious opponents or a mid-card title, then you have grounds to complain.

[@Flexarot]

Everything Cornette says is fact and just pure gold! I'll pick any random raw or nitro from the 90s on KZbin over the garbage on nowadays any time I want to watch wrestling.

[@AngelSoto-bz2nv]

Wrestling yes but politics no he’s very stupid on that subject and is a big moron on that subject

[@InsignificantNick]

"Hey Jim! I'm gonna talk shit about you on the internet, but also send you trivia via email!" - Uncle Dave

[@mrwednesdaynight]

At my job, I will occasionally have some older wrestling on in the background while I am working. I will hear from customers sometimes who used to watch wrestling but haven't in many years. The general consensus from people outside the wrestling bubble is that it's boring now.

[@popo0129]

Yeah I only have one friend who likes to watch with me but few others will just either do or not depending on their mood and if there is anything to do. AEW, no one will watch at all after like two shows they just really don't want to. I only stuck around just to see if it would get any better or worse and just laugh at some of the stupid dumb shit they do but even that got boring and I got more annoyed by the end of every show.

[@AmericanWrathchild]

Goddamn I cannot WAIT to hear Jim talk about the bank addicted drug robber debuting on dynamite 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@josephrother7950]

And just to show how serious they are about being a legit wrestling company, they've brought in Nick Gage...

[@RavorRants14]

Finally, wrestling content on a Wednesday

[@darrengordon-hill]

It's Wednesday, you know what that means

[@13JacksonMr]

🎶Wednesday Nights I like to stay up late 🎶

[@marcosant98]

I know what you did there 😂

[@shaolin1derpalm]

Wednesday is "What Happened Whrn".

[@garyhen1707]

HE'S A PLANT GUYS, they are trying to show how tough they aren't.

[@griff7897]

I love how this feud is way better than anything on AEW or WWE.

[@kelmickens8394]

When Brian said “Let me stop this”, I LOST MY SHIT

[@Thetruekap502]

I'm used to Brian being the calm collected one. It was weird to hear him get real hot. He's not wrong though. I'm 22 and prefer to watch pre WWF territory matches than anything all elite has ever done

[@chadk890]

The old WWF days was actually entertaining.

[@Thetruekap502]

@@chadk890 oh I agree. But God I could watch the midnight and flair all day

[@richardpreston7333]

Listening to Brian get madder than Jim was bizarre, but learning the context made the whole situation sad. Dave's just... gone.

[@Thetruekap502]

@@richardpreston7333 it's true, and I will say I 100 percent agree with Brian and Jim. How the young fucks weren't ran out of the business years ago is shocking to me

[@lodi70005]

@@chadk890 Old WCW was better.

[@1983jcheat]

So Meltzer buries him online, but emails him? Wow.

[@georgemaranville3305]

I 100% agree with Jim on everything but try to stay agnostic on the feud (I do enjoy hearing Jim talk about it though) but as someone who got the Observer religiously in its early years my one big criticism of Meltzer is he seems to be Working more than Shooting since the internet came around hence the emails as if he and Jim are working an angle (shades of the Young Bucks being incapable of telling the difference between the two).

[@scrappy93]

Funny how you hear others say Jim and Paul fed him info for his dirt sh!t lol.

[@TheGreatVivek7]

Actually both Jim and Melt are milking you sheeps by creating controversy. I'm sure they both are in good terms and have an agreement to bad mouth each other to stay relevant.

[@TheGreatVivek7]

@Youtosux you are bit of a dimwit aren't you who lives in a world of his own. Look I'm not going to outright attack or call you names because I stand nothing to gain from this digital war of words 😘 bye

@@TheGreatVivek7 nah this is how someone who is schizophrenic views the world. To believe that Jim is not an honest man is to not believe in anything you hear. Good luck bud.

[@heftyhugh9086]

The ironic thing is the country has absolutely gone to shit. That being said, I still love Cornette. Meltzer is the worst.

[@teddrewflack400]

Listening to this while eating dinner had me rolling . The heat Dave gets from Jim is fantastic

[@ncwrestling2412]

Yeah I think he has problems, when he talks about omega and young bucks he sounds like a child trying to talk nice about someone to be friends. He has a child’s brain.

[@seanbonella]

who

[@fenbops]

@@seanbonella meltzer.

[@ncwrestling2412]

I’m talking about metlzer

[@sh3tpostsgamertime204]

@@ncwrestling2412 👍

[@ActualUngoliant]

'member when Cornette diagnosed Meltzer with autism? I member

[@km4587]

Oh boy, time to fetch the popcorn. This one gonna be good.

[@emypetcu]

4 course dinner

[@evolvedcopper2205]

I'm sleeping late cause of this. I could literally listen to this tomorrow but cause it's Uncle Dave as the topic I have to sit through it right as I saw it on my feed 😂

[@smarkslowplay3512]

We all want that Dave/Corny drama!!!

[@charliekk3377]

Fetch the Wendy's triple burger

[@GraveMemories]

@@charliekk3377 i got the chick fil a spicy deluxe with a large lemonade

[@tonywatts2584]

After decades of having a meaningful place in the wrestling world, I think Dave's afraid to accept the fact that that world is long gone. Which means he too is gone. And because there is nowhere else to go in wrestling anymore, he's willing to take whatever is thrown out in front of him to avoid having to let it go. The wrestling world is what gave Dave his identity and made him an important figure practically his entire adult lifetime. The thought of not having that identity anymore, or not being significant to someone anymore, is what I think he's struggling the most to deal with. Not being relevant (at this stage in his life) to a modern wrestling world that has past him by is probably so scary for him that he will literally do or say anything to be considered "hip" or in the "now" by a company full of brats that don't give a damn about him at all. But hey...they named a wrestling move after him so I guess that means they "care." And because of that Dave is prepared to lie to you and betray you in their names. That makes Dave sad and it makes Dave dangerous. Which is exactly why Corny went off the way he did.

[@herzkine]

Yeah hat a little dull, when basically every Match is a 0 Star Match. But i guess dave always eated the acrobatics anyway.

[@Gvrb15]

Uncle autism is letting the mix of roid rage and the need to be accepted by the balding bucks control him.

[@dart2527]

"Out of Touch" is Matt Hardy vs. Christian Cage 20 years past the date.

[@jesusleyva4386]

@KaneMagus It's because both men know how to actually tell a story in the ring and not just do flips and dives

[@johnnyskinwalker4095]

they talk about it during Dynamite, saying it's a classic rivalry. When did that happen? before CC left for TNA?

[@cishansen4162]

the battle of the Jannetty's

[@huffmanelitetraining]

@KaneMagus but honestly still better than most RAW matches and some Smackdown!! WWE has fallen into such a horrible shitty pattern of booking and ruining NXT call ups that AEW is more entertaining all around!!!

[@TheGreatVivek7]

I felt it was a great match. Both Christian and Matt Hardy were on fire 🔥

[@IndigoUchiha26]

48 mins? 😂🔥🔥🔥🔥 grab your popcorn and cold beverage folks because this is gonna be a good one

[@chadk890]

I already did!

[@jackieparmz]

If the legendary Russo rant on the podcast is Jim’s Dark Side of the Moon, this is Jim’s Wish You Were Here.

[@andreysma3798]

All these months that Jim was reluctant to say "fuck you" to Dave made me know we would eventually reach to this point. Shouldn't feel this way, but this feel cathartic.

[@thatcreepyguythathuggedana9889]

NEED to find out more about the Don Callis thing lol

[@stevehogan9958]

Brian keeps insinuating that Callis has been accused of sexual harassment while in Impact

[@TheSerpentsEye]

Against Scarlett Bordeaux, I believe.

[@stevehogan9958]

@@TheSerpentsEye I think you're right

[@troublesomewestsideoutlaw5754]

Darling Dixie is jealous

[@stevehogan9958]

@@troublesomewestsideoutlaw5754 Dixie could harass me any time

[@traviskemp6222]

Yea Dave is whacked out. He lost all credibility as a journalist with his overly biased writing and radical support for AEW.

[@CaptLoquaLacon]

He lost credibility as a journalist the moment he kept reviewing matches of people who have named a move after him - that's pretty much textbook conflict of interest! Not that I'd wish GamerGaters on anyone, but if that movement had genuinely been about journalistic integrity you'd have to think they'd have some interest in Dave...

[@joshuabrown5123]

@@CaptLoquaLacon Good point. I've always thought that Dave lost any credibility many years before AEW came about.

[@storkfletcher821]

Then again Jim is stuck in the past and has pretty bad self-awareness at times so they are both weird but just like different things. Jim is better at forming proper sentences while talking though.

[@CaptLoquaLacon]

@@storkfletcher821 The INDUSTRY is stuck in the past. AEW are trying to poorly imitate ECW with bits of FMW and the attitude era thrown in, trying to use lots of nostalgia (CM Punk, Chris Jericho, Sting, Matt Hardy, CHristian...). The only thing they have in their favour is WWE seems to be trying to revert to the 80s! Jim goes to the past when certain fundamental things were done better like match psychology and booking, but listen to the praise he has for things like Ilja vs WALTER - it can still be modern and good. The trouble is wrestling has become like Michael Bay movies with lots of spectacle, but without the logic to make it engaging for an even mildly discerning audience which is one of the reasons why both companies would kill for the ratings that TNA used to have!

[@storkfletcher821]

@@CaptLoquaLacon The industry isn't as stuck in the past compared to Jim since he can't handle most of the indie style, which is certainly more modern than what he keeps talking about. He's also twisted in his idea of realism, often advocating things that still aren't realistic, and complain about things like how the V-Trigger supposedly isn't a good move despite that it's one of the more viable wrestling moves if we look at what works in real fighting. He also complains about goofiness, while at the same time laughs merrily when he reminisces his times running around with a tennis racket and being goofy. Not the greatest self-awareness. It's of course fine to not be a fan of something but since he's completely ignoring the changing context of the entertainment scene when he's talking about that AEW isn't sucessful, despite just having been around a bit over a couple of years, it becomes pretty weird. It all really falls into place when you realize that he gets much more upset over the fact that Kenny Omega exists in wrestling than that Flair sexually harassed a woman. For the latter he kept trying to soften the issue by that there was no ill intent meant and it's just unfortunate circumstances. So I maintain my position that Jim's credibility is very much in question as well, if Meltzer's is because he's biased.

[@autumnwind1216]

I don't think anyone has buried Meltzer the way Cornette just did.

[@bowhite783]

Scott Steiner did a promo back in like 2011 I think I don't know it's on KZbin but he talks about these wrestlers wanting to play their video games and giving a crap how many stars there matches got it's a pretty good one check it out more relevant now than ever I think might have even been talking about the Bucks Maybe

[@schmoeschlomo6972]

Link pleaae buddy

[@bowhite783]

@@schmoeschlomo6972 I'll try to find it give me a minute

[@bowhite783]

@@schmoeschlomo6972 I don't know how to post links but type in Bryan and Vinny Scott Steiner's best and worst promo it should pop up I can't find the full video other than that

[@bowhite783]

@@schmoeschlomo6972 u find it bro? My bad thats the best i could find on it

[@schmoeschlomo6972]

@@bowhite783 thanks Tony, ill look it up pal

[@TheGM-20XX]

So when did people start to realize Dave was a putz?

[@tomb_vision]

When AEW started for a lot of fans.

[@distantandvague]

So, you're a grown ass adult who follows wrestling and doesn't think they're a putz? LOL. Good awareness.

[@TheGM-20XX]

@@distantandvague looks like I bagged me a 420 pounder.

[@tomb_vision]

@@TheGM-20XX 420🌲🔥🌲🔥

[@smarkslowplay3512]

@@distantandvague mr brando, how is your weight today?

[@Montega11]

Meltzer is that older guy that hangs out at gas stations buying teenagers beer so he can be the “cool guy “

[@manifestgtr]

Dave’s situation is VERY easy to explain…he’s not “on the payroll”, he’s not this or that. He wants to be right. You see it everywhere nowadays (especially with political issues 🙄). Everybody doubles down, nobody examines their “team’s” outlook or offers a dissenting opinion to its dominant narrative. That’s what’s happening here. Dave has surrendered to his “team’s” groupthink, therefor he MUST defend their honor at all times.

[@0tt0z]

I agree with that. That line of thinking is everywhere, and I'm beyond sick of it.

[@Camarojuana_SS]

Holy shit!! Did Uncle Dave just go out of his way to insult my I.Q.? Lmao 🤣 😂

[@markula_4040]

48 minutes!? I watch the KZbin videos because I can't commit that amount of time to listen to full podcasts. Guess I'm just going to have to suck it up

[@evolvedcopper2205]

Corny sounds ready to turn into Busta Rhymes in this so far as I'm listening. Stay in 😂🤙🏽

[@falagarius]

He mostly says the same thing over and over and over again

[@joshuaDstarks]

Plenty of fantastic long-form content on here.

[@ferox965]

The full Corny podcasts are worth it.

[@falagarius]

@Youtosux I didn't mean the podcast, I mean this specific 48 minute Snippet.

[@jthom0027]

I know this isn't the main point of this video but I have to say that what Meltzer does when he claims that disliking someone's work and ripping on them is "hate speech" is fucking bullshit and kills open dialog. I despise Omega/The Buck's form of wrestling. I don't think it tells a story other than "look at the flips and moves I can do". They don't sell consistently, they come off as douchebags when they speak (and not in a good way), the Bucks are too undersized for the characters that they portray, and I just don't think they are good story tellers in the ring. After hearing The Bucks' political thoughts over the years, I dislike them as people as well. If I want to say that they suck or listen to someone that takes the piss out of them, that is my right to do and there isn't any "hate speech" involved. When someone brings up "hate speech" or anything like that to pivot away from the topic at hand, they have lost the argument and should be treated like the losers they are.

[@setadriftonfishandchips]

I want an omnibus of these segments.

[@seanbrewer1232]

The fact that Dave is emailing Jim like nothing happened is weird, but I am enjoying the mental image of Lou Thesz surfing.

[@SportPhilosophies]

You have Jim who’s had the same standards and beliefs on wrestling for his whole life, who criticizes WWE and AEW in equal measure. Then you have Dave who claims to be a journalist filling his work with personal bias, changes his beliefs to fit modern trends, is bought and paid for my one company, defends that company religiously and can’t fathom any dissent or criticism of those they have anointed. Yet Jim and his followers are irrational? The IWC and their associated cliques really need to take their heads out of AEW’s arse and see the bigger picture.

[@DeadJesterCinema]

This has aged like a fine wine, especially the “out of touch” insult.. 2 years later, AEW is at an all time low in regards to attendance and ratings, so Jim was yet again proven right and Uncle Dave looks like a clown

[@phil_accio]

We need a Meltzer omnibus. This is becoming almost daily

[@markleopard8960]

Dave and the dirt sheet writers want Aew to work because this was the way they always thought wrestling should be. And if it fails they have to admit that they were wrong and Vince was right.

[@TheMagnificentMongoSlade]

Pwinsider (I don't remember whether it was Dave Scherer or Mike Johnson) said something similar. That these dirtsheet writers are not only friendly with the core members of AEW, but their egos are tied into the company because its how they want wrestling to be.

[@maceomaceo11]

Dave, and all the Apter mags, heavily skewed NWA ( Crockett in particular) in the Hogan-era. He was wrong ( as was I, thinking the masses would see the superiority of Ric Flair and the more physical nature of NWA wrestling). Dave was wrong then and he's even more wrong now.

[@vannavanity1195]

@@maceomaceo11 lol. That's very true. I never saw Flair as a top guy. If you like 45 minute matches for some fetishized reason, Flair is your guy. If you aren't a fan of Flair taking bumps for jobbers like 1991 Bobby Eaton in 30 minute matches, his slapstick bumping, his inability to adapt past the 1986 period of traveling champion, Flair starts to look like the most overrated elite workers in wrestling history.

[@vannavanity1195]

Mark is right and what I've been saying forever. Meltzer is some autistic Ralph Nader consumer advocate of pro wrestling who seemed hung up on no shows, drawn out stall fests, and the like. Cornette look like a loser though because he never saw that. Meltzer's ratings of wrestling matches are so algorithmic that his ratings may as well come from Zuckerberg. I can recall many times predicting his ratings because he's that shallow. Cornette's problem is that he has an axe to grind and used Meltzer as a ready audience to validate his views. When I hear Cornette talk about 80s WWF, I'm left thinking he is an average evaluator of talent at best. He's a hell of a trainer though. But he loves his Southern rasslin that always looked way faker to me than anything I've ever seen out of the WWF growing up. No one would ever fight like Ric Flair. Flair would get killed in a street fight. I can at least imagine 80% of the moves Hogan did in the ring to look applicable in a bar fight

[@markleopard8960]

@@vannavanity1195 i agree i grew up on a lot of southern wrestling and there was some great stuff but go to the network and there were bad shows and matches week in week out. Jim is finally saw like a lot of guys in that era that Meltzer was using them. They were pissed that WWE was putting the territorys out of bussines and were talking to Meltzer. What JIm and Meltzer and all the rest hate is. Vince did it better and smarter and still does.

[@The_Fuj]

Cornette said that the Jim Cornette business makes more money for him than the wrestling business. Dave Meltzer has been in the Dave Meltzer business for about 5 years now.