Arcane Season 2 Is A Letdown || Part 9

[@carrotbringer398]

the fact that vi was not even relevant for her own sister´s redemption arc tells u how much they cared about the writing lmao

[@GenerationOffended]

Really true. They completely destroyed these characters and their interactions. Vi was just a puppet of the plot and was totally sidelined. She is only in the story for THAT one scene with Caitlyn and thats it.

[@samlerf]

@@GenerationOffended Luke Film boss here on youtube is responding to your Arcane series. Out of interest, would you respond or have a conversation with said youtuber?

[@karenboy1005]

Probably the biggest flaw with the second season is how badly it fails at solving the Piltover-Zaun conflict. It's quite literally the main conflict of the entire story and it doesn't even get resolved. No, doing the generic and tired "common enemy" trope is not solving the decades worth of turmoil between 2 classes.

[@DontDoitForYourself]

I mean the show is called arcane not zaun & piltover

[@brandonontama2415]

​@@DontDoitForYourself A title doesn't excuse writing

[@laylacisneros6114]

A whole season preparing for the explosion of a war to end in that bs mcu finale :(

[@chrishaven1489]

@@DontDoitForYourself The intellectual sophistication of wondering why To Kill a Mockingbird doesn't have many birds in it

[@saltator8565]

@@DontDoitForYourself "Muh, but the title is ARCANEEEEE!!!1" The title of the show does not dictate the plot, Vi, Jinx, and Cait command the majority of the s1 screen time and story, Vi herself has 30 minutes over the number 2 character Jinx, they were the A plot by definition, their story had the most build and resources dedicated to it, this is undeniably true, for 15 episodes, the first two acts of s2 mostly continue those story beats with the Arcane being the B plot still, the shift in focus is so pronounced that even with Jacye Victor and Ekko commanding the majority of screen time at the end, Vi, Jinx and Cait are still 1, 2, and 3 in screen time and they have nothing to do with the final clash and resolution battle. From where I am standing the various payoffs do not match the builds, if you want your grand final to focus on the Arcane, fine then build to that, make it the A plot, make Jacye and Victor your main characters of focus, don't do the late shift, it just hurts the over all product. If you want to keep Cait, Jinx and Vi as the characters with the most of your investment in resources then for the love of god intergrade them into your final battle better and make sure the charachter with the most screen time actually gets a proper payoff to her arc. You have to pick one, don't sell the show on the sisters and then shove them into the corner during your grand final.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

The fact that they referenced a bunch of classics like Macbeth and les Miserables in the opening only to shamelessly admit they used disney MARVEL as inspiration is so fucking funny to me.

[@okasart]

Literally had me thinking what was the point of those references

[@saltator8565]

@@okasart Aesthetics, that's it

[@GenerationOffended]

I forgot to mention that. Its another sign of a complete lack of substance with this Season. They can't even have a good intro lol.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@@okasart to get people hyped, and aesthetics

[@Kantorek17]

I believe it might be choice of the animation team, not the writers. After S2 I believe there's no way S2 writers are literate enough for this kind of homages

[@CharmyG3ddon]

people arguing how expensive this show was to make as if that compensates for bad writing really gets me.

[@GenerationOffended]

"You can't polish a turd." No matter how much money you throw at this it can't save the awful script.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

Yes, and the animation and "visual storytelling" won't make up for a poor script. Since the beginning of storytelling, since the ancient Greek dramas, this fact has remained. The writing comes before all.

[@Sizifus]

Concord was expensive too and it was developed by apparently "veterans" of the industry with an extensive lore. Don't need to tell how much of a failure that was.

[@samlerf]

@@GenerationOffended Do you know the star wars work by Honeycut videos, Anomaly Inc and Rick Worley? Do you know the few star wars novels/Audiobooks written with Lucas ("Darth Plagueis", "Shatterpoint", "Labyrinth of Evil" & the six movie novelizations by Alan Dean Foster, Donald F. Glut, James Kahn, Terry Brooks, R. A. Salvatore and Matthew Stover? Do you read the star wars heresies or the making of books by J. W. Rinzler. And don't forget: I wonder: how many people would even know what I’m referencing when I talk about “Canyon Cinema” or “Tone poems”. Lucas of course has his own ideas on film, as these favorite quotes of mine show: “But in my films, the dialogue is not where the movie is. My films are basically in the graphics. The emotional impact comes from the music - and from juxtaposing one image with the next” and “I’m not known for my dialogue. I think of it as a sound effect, a rhythm, a vocal chorus in the overall soundtrack. Mostly, everything is visual”. And: "The first script I wrote had stories for everybody… and I cut it down and we had a script. But when we cut it together, there were still problems. Finally, I said: Okay, let’s be even more hard-nosed here and take out every scene that doesn’t have anything to do with Anakin. But that causes you to juxtapose certain scenes that you were never contemplating juxtaposing before. And these scenes take on different qualities than before, because the scenes were never meant to be next to each other. In one case, there was supposed to be a scene with Padmé and Bail Organa between two Anakin scenes, because we were following her story along with his. And when most of those scenes were cut out, suddenly all sorts of weird things started to happen that weren’t intended in the script - but in some cases it worked much better. What happens is that some of the themes grab hold of each other and really strengthen themselves in ways that are fascinating. You pull things together and suddenly a theme is drawn out because it’s in three consecutive scenes instead of just one. Suddenly one theme is infinitely stronger than it was before, so we’ll strengthen that theme because it seems poetic."

[@smoberley]

People complaining about what this show cost, as if that's a bad thing, really gets me.

[@badumba5511]

Amanda "relating" to Caitlyn and Christian being obsessed with Jinx explains why it's only these two characters getting any arcs this season (besides whatever the whole hexcore bs was), while everyone was ignored this season and it's clear to me she fetishized Vi instead of understanding her character because 'yay, shipping'. Gross. She's no better than a man writing a woman with a side dish of fan service. AND I'M TIRED OF MULTIVERSE BS!

[@Kantorek17]

There are a lot of questions to people who wrote this season. It looks like they really need to have someone keeping them in check so they wouldn't o ape shit with their creative freedom. This season is so detached from reality and what was established in S1 it makes me wonder if these three brilliant minds had been writing it under influence of drugs or something 💀

[@dacoolestzzz]

literally this. They absolutely obliterated Vi for season 2. She isn't just some lap dog for rich officer lady she should of fought cait for trying to manipulate her like she got mad in season 1 and went to help Jinx or something but nope she's just turned into a fetish for rule34 artists

[@Phoenix0F8]

@@dacoolestzzz season 1 vi would punch these writers for making her identify herself as the dirt under Cait's fingernails, jesus

[@Birdyboys]

I complained about season 2 feeling bizarrely MCU-fied (the bad jokes, multiverse, interesting villains being replaced with mindless drones) but hearing the writer basically confirm they used that as inspiration is….. :( Edit: I typed this halfway through the video and he mentioned the mindless drones thing as well lmao

[@GenerationOffended]

Its brutal how blatant it is, quite literally copying the homework here lol. Its another sign that they did not try at all with the story.

[@mishan3168]

WhAtS wRoNg WiTh mY pAnTs

[@Birdyboys]

@@mishan3168 I cringed so bad at that scene. Could not believe tiktok was eating up that awful joke. They would have torn into it if it came from the Flash or something

[@Birdyboys]

@@GenerationOffendedI wouldn’t say it’s copying but it was a horrible idea to take inspiration from the MCU of all things. Even at its best, it’s meant to be fun audience pleaser, not high art

[@mishan3168]

@@Birdyboys bro. Audience ate way more than that. Seeing how many people praised caitvi prison cupcake tasting - it's goddamn surreal.

[@paoda-ven]

2035: Arcane season 2 is a Letdown || Part 487.

[@GenerationOffended]

We're calling it here sadly for now. I will likely return for some epilogue videos which will likely take me into the next century lol.

[@paoda-ven]

@GenerationOffended hahahaha, I'm down for that!

[@bluespectrum1348]

legit, the season was THAT bad.

[@bilgeakaln6335]

@@GenerationOffended even you need a break after all. I cant imagine the headaches you had to push yourself through to rewatch this thing and actually remember it

[@nickl9461]

That's a sacrifice... I'm willing to make.

[@oinkleberry]

I'm going to be so astronomically pissed if Mel just forgets about Jayce entirely when she starts her journey in the Noxus show

[@GenerationOffended]

100% he will hardly be mentioned if at all.

[@oinkleberry]

@@GenerationOffended it's not impossible the writers of the next show could do better, but you're probably right unfortunately

[@GenerationOffended]

The bar is pretty low to be fair lol. I look forward to seeing how it turns out.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@@oinkleberry she's a girl boss now, she's perfect and don't need no man (🤢) they might even make her a lesbian. In her new music video they show her just deflecting enemies with zero struggle. Might become a new Mary Sue. Either way if I do watch the noxus show it'll be for Darius probably.

[@hawkins347]

At least LoL gave Mel a couple of lines with some excellent emotional performance from the voice actress. Can't believe a stupid MOBA is giving us what the 200 million show should've.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

They had to write, pass, storyboard and animate that useless flashback scene. At no point did anyone say "this is stupid"!!??

[@GenerationOffended]

Its just a case of unchecked power. You have creatives at the top that no one is allowed to question.

[@Kantorek17]

I would like to remind you that the writing board shrinked to Chris Link, Amanda and Alex. Many of previous writers of Season 1 weren't there

[@raeldri5867]

when your job is on the line you are not gonna hear a lot of people say its stupid only think it

[@boggart159]

It had a purpose it was used to show VI's parents and what Vander was fighting so hard for at the bridge.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@@Kantorek17 I am aware but just how much power do they have? How did no one question them? How were they ever allowed this much power despite the incompetence?

[@Interstellar19]

Don't forget that it took one of the showrunners 27 hours to come up with the final line of dialogue for the entire series "I am the dirt under your nails Cupcake, nothing's gonna clean me out." 😂 Also the fact that Vi and Jinx, arguably the shows main characters and the reason why Arcane was created in the first place, had a total of 5 lines of dialogue towards each other in the final episode. Two of these being identical from Jinx. No emotion. No substance. Just a means to an end.

[@mischr13]

that one bothered me SO MUCH. couldn't they have come up with some other analogy if they HAVE to have her say "cupcake" again? having cupcake and dirty hands in the same sentence is repulsive, the opposite of romantic. who thought that was romantic???

[@mischr13]

also shouldn't have to say this but having LESBIANS specifically talk about having dirt under her nails is just...so gross wtf 🙃I'm guessing they did not ask any lesbians first if they'd find that romantic

[@waverlyaltis7171]

Also the fact that season 1 Vi wanted to rise above Piltover’s oppression (I swear she had a line about being treated like dirt by them-even if she didn’t the metaphor still stands) so her final line being comparing herself to dirt under a Piltie’s nails? Idk it felt so strange coming from her. I saw another comment saying it’s a Spanish idiom or something, but in the context of Arcane and Vi’s struggle against oppression it still feels strange

[@ricardosoares3877]

Every single fan theory about the story for season 2 turned out to be more compelling than the season itself. This speaks volumes about the writing quality. They referenced MacBeth and Les Miserables in the opening for a cheap gimmick. Of course it has alternative universes, because every studio has to copy Marvel, even though multiverse is one of the main reasons the MCU declined in both popularity and quality.

[@7hkey]

Arcane ends at Season 1. Even with a huge cliffhanger the story and themes are better wrapped up than with the mass characters assassination that was season 2.

[@badumba5511]

Maybe a good fic writer will take from where season 1 left and give us something worthy to read. Almost anything would be better than what season 2 made.

[@TheMightyPika]

Agreed 100%

[@generaltoszur1036]

The most dissapointing thing that isnt even part of the story of the show , is how seemingly writers of the show said that they didnt want to work on the show anymore , that they didnt want to spend another 5 years working on same project . So you re saying that we could have gotten the best animated frenchise ever created split over at least 3 seasons it should have gotten if only writers didnt decide to abandon their creation on the half way to work on something else and because of that were forced to cut the story at every point possible to fit 2 seasons worth of plot into 8 episodes

[@loco_logic]

Reminds me of D&D when they wrote the last few seasons of Game of Thrones. They were in such a hurry to ditch the show and work on other projects, that they ended up rushing through everybody's character arcs and finding lazy solutions for all the major storylines.

[@leylaS07]

The multiverse thing is such a slap in the face. I couldnt care less about a universe where "everything is magically perfect" when it comes to a story like Arcane. What are we supposed to do with that... We want to know how things could get better for the cities and the characters taking into consideration THEIR reality and circonstances. Just like Jinx saying "there are no good versions of me". I couldnt care less about an AU Powder that is not Jinx. She just didnt have the same life as Jinx and Jinx could never be her because it would require that she erase all her past trauma. And this AU Powder was not even realistic because even Powder before Vi's death or Vander's and the boys' death was more instable than this Powder. The audience and the characters are smart enough to know that if EVERYTHING was different, then they would be different people. It's not a helpful concept at all. Specially Ekko. He is a smart dude. He knows Jinx became Jinx because of trauma. So getting to know a non destructive version of her should not have been surprising or life changing at all. The best thing he can get from it is a little bit more compassion for Jinx, but if Jinx had not gone through her (bad) redemption arc in act 2, Ekko's compassion would have melted in a couple days! In real life, fantasies about alternate perfect us dont help people at all. This was so childish and i'm still pissed.

[@hexkink]

the alternate au wasn’t perfect but go off

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@@hexkink the only bad thing about it is that vi died. That's a very tiny price to pay for breathable air, lack of police brutality, lack of shimmer addiction, lack of prejudice and having a green hippie wonderland. So yeah it's perfect. Except for a small number of the characters who loved vi.

[@CureSmileful]

@@hexkink it felt without identity to me, other than sunny city and everyone wearing a vest

[@TheMightyPika]

I guess what I hate the most about all this is that I can no longer recommend Arcane to people. I have to give the caveat of "Stop after S1 - Trust me." Now when I talk about what an inspirational work of brilliance Arcane was, I have to say Season 1 only. And that inevitably continues with having to explain why, which drags the conversation AWAY from why S1 is standalone genius, poisoning what was a story extremely important to me on a personal level.

[@GenerationOffended]

I feel the same. I used to recommend the show to anyone but now I also have to have that caveat and it sucks.

[@Crimm323]

I've enjoying this series more then the actual show.

[@GenerationOffended]

Thanks man.

[@Kantorek17]

These series make sense, unlike S2 writing

[@chandanhvy8921]

its actually hilarious how amanda said she tried to make "realistic" characters that would make "realistic decisions".... cmon how the f is blowing themselves up a go-to move for a child? why didnt isha help jinx get back up and escape together? isnt that how normal children would act? instead they forced isha to commit suicide (which potentially put jinx in even more danger) as if she were craving death. the character i hate the most in ss2 is caitlyn, she is abusive towards vi, she didnt give a f about jayce's disappearance (who was her lifelong friend), she didnt hesitate to shoot jinx despite by doing so she would put her girlfriend and a child in danger. her villain arc is so poorly done, suddenly she was a dictator, suddenly she was not, suddenly she was hungry for revenge, suddenly she was not, there's so many concepts picked up and thrown away. in the end she didnt even pay for any horrible thing she did besides losing an eye all of arcane 2's character are so weird, when i first watched act 1 i thought their weird decisions were for planning something bigger... then all of them fell flat

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

Isha is there to create cheap drama. Vi could've easily taken the gun out of her hand and picked her up and away from the scene. Cait could have easily shot jinx right there, she was at point blank range and a pro sniper. There was no reason not to shoot, she would not have missed if vi had her instincts and snatched the gun away from isha. Also how tf did jinx, Cait and vi get away from the scene where they were absolutely surrounded by noxian soldiers? Who we can also assume had the camp surrounded from the outside? Why is commander Caitlin a patrol? She's a commander ffs.

[@asmophorp6165]

It's baffling how the writers decided to show past vander in main timeline and alternative vander in ep 7 and yet do absolutely nothing with vander being Warwick cuz that's not important to the main plot of s2 at all.

[@DanielMatthew89]

I loved the Vander flashback until I slowly realised they were retconing tf outta S1.

[@GenerationOffended]

That was the trap I fell into. Like everything in this season it starts to fall apart quickly when you think about the plot.

[@hawkins347]

I know Mel & Jayce were not super popular as characters, not to mention as a romance, but by golly, I expected the writers to have some integrity and double down and stick to their vision rather than have Jayce spew a bunch of fandom talking points about how Mel financially backing his project back when they didn't know each other is somehow worse than Viktor's turn for eugenics or Caitlyn abiding genocide.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

Yeah it was BS for him to treat her like that, but Tiktok loved it (one video got 120k likes). He should've been way more vulnerable and asked her what happened instead of brushing everything off. Even if he no longer loved her he still cared for her in some way. Him never mentioning Caitlyn's assault on Zaun rubs me the wrong way, too.

[@Birdyboys]

When people were like “oh Mel manipulated him” EVERYONE MANIPULATED THIS GUY, he’s easy to convince! And the whole point was that Mel went from using him for political gain to feeling genuine love and affection for him but the writers just brush over that second part

[@blacktigerpaw1]

@ Funny how his new LoL lines shows he still cares for her way more than his Arcane ones did. That Jayce would've been 'no matter what, even if we don't love each other anymore, we're in this together'.

[@ddnlldn8007]

@@blacktigerpaw1 I really appreciate that Riot has dedicated it, so much longing and yearness in Jayce's lines really love it

[@CureSmileful]

I wouldn't call it eugenics (like not inhibiting the fertility of people and groups Victor considered inferior) when he repeated that he only uses his power on willing people and started yapping about evolution in response to scientist guy talking about Vander, but he flipped in ep 8 or 9 to "yeah fuck autonomy, choice is an illusion, lets use violence" after the heated dialogue with Mel, but I guess he knew it would happen from AU Victor so I may agree after all.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

Someone made a very good point on another video: if there are countless timelines and a multi verse, then why should we care about this one at all??

[@GenerationOffended]

We can't, its the problem with the multiverse in general.

[@xtrafunk]

I groaned at hearing amanda's justification for copy pasting the MCU multiverse. Great let's definitely make a second rate version of arguably the worst storytelling device in the history of writing

[@GenerationOffended]

Her excuse was that it would be less work lol, it says a lot about her mindset as a writer.

[@mishan3168]

This woman pull off some very questionable writing decisions.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@@mishan3168 I think she was the one handling CaitVi. The most catastrophic lesbian ship on screen. And she was so proud of herself too! On Twitter she shamelessly claimed that they were intending for Mel and jayce's romance to be boring, which is funny bc i thought it was one of the most interesting romances I had seen in a while. The first time I found myself giving a damn about romance lmao. They failed at everything.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

​@@Of_infinite_FaithI saw that tweet. She's also the one JayVik fans turned to for confirmation of that ship even when she *didn't even know how their story ended and thought it was romantic.* Huh? You WROTE it! Animators are animating WHAT YOU WROTE! They loved her "forever embraced in the Arcane" thing, though.

[@chrishaven1489]

I feel compelled to defend Amanda Overton here. It's easy to dump on her writing contribution in this season but I feel that doesn't address the much larger issue plaguing this season. A lot of the problems with this season can be attributed to its rushed writing. And the reason why it was rushed is because the show didn't have enough time and space for its character arcs and plotlines to breathe. I'm of the very strong opinion the show needed three seasons to tell its story properly. Amanda Overton and the other writers were very much hamstrung by this tight timeframe, resulting in inevitably crappy writing, forcing characters through predetermined plotlines without the luxury of genuine authentic character progression to meet those plot points naturally. Personally, I think it's more sensible to pin all of this on Christian Linke and/or Alex Yee. They're the ones helming the ship. They're the ones telling the writers the trajectory of the story. They're the ones who decided "yeah, lets do two seasons then leave this story behind". It feels obvious to me that Amanda and the other writers don't have the power to influence how many seasons the show should have

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

How cool would it have been if we could deal with jinx, have ekko as the icon of the revolution, have jayce remain head of the council and him helping Vi become the new vander while he uses viktor and mel's help to improve zaun.

[@mishan3168]

What could have been.

[@paoda-ven]

@@Of_infinite_Faith thank you.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@@mishan3168 yes. I know it sounds a bit too happy, but if arcane was allowed to have an actually hopeful happy ending it would be great and the message would be appreciated by people who suffer from oppression and family trauma

[@badumba5511]

@@mishan3168 That message became literal, ironically.

[@herrflantier3739]

What a waste... At least we still have an excellent season 1. Season 2 will always remain fanfiction to me.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

Mel manages to save cait and kill maddie from a point blank shot, from BEHIND closed doors

[@anguibok]

It's not even canon in the game, she can only save herself and people that are really close to her (or behind her)

[@GenerationOffended]

I am kicking myself for not mentioning this.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@@GenerationOffended lmaoo, you can watch another show while taking a mental break from this shit and come back with even more material for 30 videos. Arcane caused me so much mental damage especially as someone who analyses stories and texts for my education.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

​@@Of_infinite_FaithNot to mention the entire "we must destroy Hextech" plot was for nothing because Piltover had magitech to even the odds against mages...and now Piltover is helpless against mages lmao

[@hybrid2069]

Massive props for pulling through all the major critique and tying this series in a bow. You've covered pretty much all relevant aspects that many of us felt unsure about, thank you for honestly speaking up about it and not mincing words. Take care and keep it up!

[@GenerationOffended]

Thank you so much. There are still a few things I will likely return to make a video about in perhaps an epilogue style video, I could still talk about Jayce in more detail. As always I appreciate you supporting me through this series. People like you have kept me making these videos for real.

[@leylaS07]

Amanda being obsessed with Caitlin did a lot of wrong on S2 :( I dont even like what she did with her character in comparison to S1.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

You know what pisses me off? They didn't have enough time, clearly, to tell the story in a proper way, so they had to cram in as much USEFUL information as possible. In a way that if you remove a songle scene the whole plot would fall apart (one of Aristotle's main points in his poetics about writing), so if we're supposed to believe that thes writers didn't have enough time, then why put this scene in there? It literally adds nothing, not only that it damages the first season!! WHY WASTE PRECIOUS TIME ON A USELESS SCENE WHEN YOU'RE RUSHING EVERYTHING ELSE

[@mishan3168]

This is exactly my thoughts when I was waiting for act 3.Only to realize episodes Is still 40 mins long and one of them is about another universe.....

[@blindsaint07]

Squeezing emotions from audience that don't make sense when you think about it, over substance and logical plot. That's how s2 is.

[@GenerationOffended]

I think its just to create buzz around the show. Its deliberately made to be turned into Tik Tok trends.

[@mishan3168]

The more you think about s1 the better it gets. The more you think about s2 the worse it gets.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@@mishan3168 actually s1 has a huge plot hole and that is Caitlyn losing her job yet being able to get vi out of prison and Marcus not even considering going after her on his own after discovering her faking her identity.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@@mishan3168 actually s1 has a huge plot hole and that is Caitlyn losing her job yet being able to get vi out of prison and Marcus not even considering going after her on his own after discovering her faking her identity.

[@mishan3168]

@@Of_infinite_Faith well nothing is perfect. But I believe he said to silco " she's a kirraman. Just like them she does whatever she wants. I can't control her

[@_silence__3]

Finally i've found people who won't beat me to a pulp for having a brain 😭 I really wanted to like s2 but i just can't enjoy this kind of storytelling

[@GenerationOffended]

You're certainly not alone here.

[@bdizzle1118]

The flashback and Vander's letter contradict the timeline. In season 1, Vander tries to drown Silco years BEFORE the battle on the bridge! Silco's flashback shows a much YOUNGER Vander trying to drown him, he had no beard and no gray hair. Did the writers of S2 forget this? Or did they just hope no one would notice their retcon?

[@GenerationOffended]

Man, I wish I had thought of that, thats a great point.

[@beastboybastard9582]

Exactly! I was mad how could anyone miss out on this, vander betrayal happened at such a young age, WAYY before the bridge incident, thats prob like a decade gap, and can someone tell me the exact reason vander betrayed silco? Cuz i still have no logical reason, it seemed like the writers of S1 had a good idea of who vander character is and they had set up much deeper lore and stories that S2 came in and not only entirely removed this important part of character development but replaced it with crappy 1 dimensional character that was always "peaceful and father" its so triggering the missed opportunity So let me sum it up for u, the vander versions we saw in s1 [Young vander drowning young silco] The reason behind this betrayal is still unknown for me, tho i confidently say the og writers intended a deeper story to tell that was cut off [Prime vander leading the violent revolution] ama Hound of the underground Happened years after the betrayal, It was apparent that its vander who got vi n jinx parents killed cuz he led them to it, he was unfamiliar with the kids but he knew their parents, tho i can also confidently day the og writers intended vander to know every person in his rebellion just like a proper leader, it wasn't necessary cuz he specifically had a personal relationship with vi n jinx mother (to the point he even named vi lol i cba) this violent side of vander was also set up for a deeper lore from the og writers that was completely cut off in s2, its also the essence of his upcoming warwick transformation (read the original warwick lore to get a better idea) [Old vander turning pacifist and wise/more considerate] Vander had a change of heart, and it wasn't because he had a promise or was always obligated to raise vi and powder, No! It was because he did it out of his own will, S1 also emphasized this by showing milo and clag, had milo and clag were champs in league would the show also make vander personally know their mothers? This is beyond ridiculous to me, vander was a big figure and looked upon by all of zaun To end it, silco also backed this up and said this in s1 e3 "I hated you [Young vander] but you kept my respect [Prime vander against piltover] until you made peace with them [Old pacifist vander] played lapdog after everything we suffered" so this quote suggests that silco despite vander brutally tortured and almost killed him still respected him years after that cuz he was leading peak zaun revolution, but his despise only came after he took in the children and stroke a secret deal with piltover sheriff Do u see how much of a character assassination was done here? And dont get me started on Warwick arc... Jesus christ man...

[@boggart159]

Your acting as though they couldnt have disagreed about how to deal with zaun itself? Like jinx and vi did, just because Vander is happy in the scene doesn't mean he was happy up until the bridge

[@Дэн-ш2м]

@@GenerationOffended There's a mistake in the scene. It was made before the writers clarified to the artists how Silko and Vander should look in this scene. They should usually, the scene after the bridge, but the artists made them young.

[@leylaS07]

They hoped nobody would notice the many retcons or indulge them. Wtf were they thinking.

[@zikra4204]

i think it speaks volumes that the writers thought zaun would flourish if a few individuals made different choices and hextech was never invented, which is just not how oppression and classism works at all. no wonder they abandoned the class conflict story - they didn't understand it. great video.

[@GenerationOffended]

They had to rework the entire plot to avoid this epic class conflict which destroyed every character and every sub plot. You’re totally right they didn’t understand it, getting rid of Hextech wouldn’t solve all the problems, if any. The class war was already there before Hextech was created.

[@stefanoterragnolo6458]

Man, you have no idea how much your videos helped me. Everytime that I tried to speak or write to others about the problems of this show, (the writing issues, the terrible characters arcs, nonsense development ecc...) I have been called names and fussy, to the point that I started to believe that I was in the wrong, that I needed to shut up about it and accept that this season was peak storytelling, the best of the best, absolute perfection. Still, I found someone else who was not blinded by the animations (which are fire and incredible) and had enough brain to question a show that has been blindly idolized to the point of nausea. I Know that they have to rush the story due to budgets cuts...but I can't excuse every single mistake, lack of credibility and poor perspective and development to that. It's not my job as a viewer to racks my brains out to justify and accept everything that is "crooked" in a story. Sadly for me, I have lost hype for the next show about Noxus, since I have been so embittered by this season and how they treated this rare Hextech Gem (hahaha what a joke, i should become a MCU writer) of narration. Thanks to you, I feel more relieved. Excellent job 🦾

[@GenerationOffended]

Glad I could help man. I felt similar when I started this series, there was a lot of hate for me when the show was still going. After a while I think people started to see the problems. You're really on it there, its not your job at all. We shouldn't have to detectives and piece every part of the story together for the writers. Thanks for the kind words, its been great finding a community who think about the stories they enjoy.

[@MeryChess]

Same here

[@onsokumaru4663]

Someone looked at Game of Thrones season 8 and thought to himself/herself, "let's do that for the season finale of Arcane".

[@GenerationOffended]

It was the same level of pain for both seasons

[@slei4676]

This is the first time I've seen someone notice that Vander in the flashback behaves like himself after the epilogue transition. I didn't even think about that but it makes it even worse than I thought. Also doesn't make sense why would they try to walk through the bridge if they apparently already achieved good enough conditionts to live in Lanes peacefully. Am I missing something or does it just make zero sense again?

[@Marimontela]

That retcon is such a helluva boss thing to do. It's basically compromising the story to make everything more uwu based on a version of the character you are already familiarized with, making the origin nonsensical for the sake of self fan service

[@Birdyboys]

Funny thing: a helluva boss fan asked for permission to watch this show from Vivziepop herself around the time season 2 just started airing, and Viv compared arcane to her show. I think she cursed this series 😂

[@keiichi8191]

I wrote a lengthy, multi-paragraph response about how disappointed I was in season 2 after considering season 1 to be one of my favorite pieces of media in decades, but KZbin I guess decided that I must've used a no-no word somewhere and hid it. So suffice it to say I really appreciate these videos.

[@GenerationOffended]

Its really bad for that. I have no restrictions on my comment section and it still deletes them. Thank you for the support, I appreciate it.

[@NeverDry999]

I get the distinct feeling that the writers that got let go were the ones who were paid more. But that's just a hunch.

[@badumba5511]

That may as well be true. Riot fired their creative staff due to money shortage before arcane s2 so I wouldn't be surprised, I honestly don't believe that covid bs excuse, many creators managed to work under these conditions still.

[@GeorgeOfRuneterra]

I want to add another unexplored plot twist. The nature of the Hexcore that Victor merges with. In the first season, it seemed to me that the scriptwriters were preparing the ground for "The Void" as the main antagonist of the second season. I hadn't even heard of the void back then, as I was completely ignorant of League of Legends lore. But even with no information which i have got later, as for me, the core were showing suspicious features, seeming intelligence, and the ability to broadcast the unintelligible "call" of something otherworldly. For the entire second season, I expected Victor to be a victim of the corruption of the demons of the void, and he would have to "usher in total oblivion across Runeterra". But nooo, he just had stupid ass character development offscreen and he got a brain rotting backflip of motivation covered with "who-hoo wise and complex riddle-gibberish" supported by dimension and time travel. That sucks so much and I hate being caught in these emotional traps all over season 2. Now i think that season 2 was only designed to be emotional bait to sell all new skins of LoL characters and product promotion. They lured us whith season 1 and tortured our good memories in the season 2. The main purpose of season 2 is to provide screentime for every new costume of characters to be sold later. The story is a secondary here, maybe season 1 scriptwriters left the team as soon as producers mentioned it.

[@BeefyChud]

I don’t remember if you specifically talked about how dumb the vi Caitlin love scene was. But jynx is in jail. Vi lets her out. Jinx locks up Vi instead. Jynx says very ominously, that she is headed to end the cycle. What seems like 2 minutes later, Caitlin opens the cell, and they have a saucy love scene. Um what the hell about Jynx? Wouldn’t Vi want to go find her sister? Would she be worried and for good reason that Jynx is going to something bad after her cryptic comment about ending the cycle? No? We’re just gonna get a self indulgent love scene instead? Ok.

[@honeyghost7917]

People calling this season a masterpiece gets me

[@ruzgar1372]

You didn't milk this series. It's just that S2 was THAT bad. I stg we were spoiled with S1.

[@GenerationOffended]

Thanks, it really was just that bad lol. I could have kept going for a while longer but i think i got my point across.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

S1 had its own plot holes but since it used dramatic irony very well, the emotional punches landed

[@DianaDonineaux]

There are three questions that the show did not answer . 1-Do people know that Jinx killed Silco especially Sevika ? Maybe she knows because during the fight opposing Cait and Vi VS Sevika and Jinx , Jinx admits aloud that she orphaned herself twice . But why is she supporting her ? That's a mystery . 2-Do people know that Vi is Jinx's sister in Piltover ? Tobias did not like that Vi was in the mansion after the funeral but we do not know if it is because he does not want a stranger into such an intimate moment , if it is because she is a Zaunite as Jinx or because he knows she linked to his wife's murderer . What about Cait's squad ? Piltover in general ? What do they think about that ? Vi should have a whole arc about her becoming an Enforcer as a Zaunite but also as Jinx's sister . When Vi wakes up in Cait's bed it seems that Loris knows that Jinx is Vi' s sister but we could imagined that Vi confessed things to him during the montage but who knows ? 3- Do people know that Cait and Vi are attracted to each other ? Except in S1 when Cait left with Ekko on the the bridge , these two are pretty lowkey . Their intimate moments are in private . Or maybe when Cait dismissed her future squad to speak to Vi after the memorial attack and Vi caress her cheek it was seen by them , but again who knows ? Maddie is accused to have taken advantage of Cait despite knowing that Cait is in love with Vi but except that Cait recognizes the strength and bravoure of Vi , how can she know that these two are in love ?

[@leylaS07]

I disagree, your videos are not nitpicking. What you said are details for people who unplug their brains when they start Netflix. I refuse to constantly lower standards like this, especially with Arcane.

[@GenerationOffended]

If we praise this kind of television then we will just keep getting more of it. Creators will feel less accountable to make quality content.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

You also forgot: Vi never finds out Jayce was the one who k1lled Vander by terminating Viktor. Jayce is responsible for bringing in the automatons and no one calls him out for it. Not even Mel, the woman HE blames for "manipulation" when he literally ended the world. Imagine if Vi found out what he did; she'd never ally with him.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

No Jayce wasn't responsible for that. Singed was the one who set Vander off. Also Vi was an idiot to think reviving Vander was ever gonna work. He's a fucking wolf now. Even if Viktor did manage, Vander would just be another lobotomized cult follower. Nothing was gonna work. Jayce also did have a right to be mad, he was suffering from survivors guilt ALL season. He was visibly disabled with a big brace on his leg, he looked sleep deprived and Mel doesn't even push for answers after he says "it doesn't matter". She looks even more glamorous than before like nothing even happened to her, she looks like she had a great time but everyone is mad at Jayce for not immediately assuming that she was in a magic cell. Meanwhile Mel ignores jayce's visible injury to talk about herself. Makes her look awfully selfish. And they even had Jayce apologize for being traumatized. To blame Jayce for Vander is dumb bc we know it was never gonna work anyway. And it's not like Jayce was even aware of Vander and Warwick shit or even that Vi was there. Idk why the fandom acts like Jayce is omniscient. To blame him for Vander is dumb because he had no idea, AND he was barely sane after the months of being trapped in isolation inside a pit with an awful injury.

[@GenerationOffended]

Thats true, well i might come back for an epilogue type video and i can include that. You have a really good point!

[@badumba5511]

Vi doesn't know about Jayce's fuk up, Ekko doesn't know about Vi's badge, Fireflights don't know wtf is Jinx doing in their base, the sisters don't beat up Singed for some reason. No one knows shiet nor is self aware enough to act organically, these actions are so cheap it's insulting.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

8:12 also i was expecting a far more serious and rich scene between ekko and jayce, since im sure ekko would recognize jayce as the guy he ripped off and set off this chain of events, like he'd have some epiphany, i was hoping they'd become friends of sorts.

[@GenerationOffended]

Its the same with Caitlyn and Jayce, they had two scenes together and in only of them did they speak to each other. Even when we get the pairings we want they still don't deliver.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@@GenerationOffended exactly. Nothing was satisfying. Also after the funeral where Cait finally breaks down and cries, I personally believe it would've been way more organic if she had gone to Jayce to cry, considering Jayce knew Cassandra very well (she funded him for years and she tried to defend him, basically watched him grow like a second mom) and he was like her brother, meanwhile Cait knew Vi for like 2 weeks? So Vi being the first person to cry to didn't make sense to me.

[@badumba5511]

@@Of_infinite_Faith It could've been a good parallel to Jayce going to see her after the councile prohibited him to work as a scientist. Unfortunately they don't even know how to write good parallels anymore, the relationship between Vi, Jinx, Silco and Vander become a huge mess.

[@YenB_prplka]

Thanks for that journey, dude. You saved a lot of dissapointed souls, who was gaslighted by praysing blinded "fans" of the show

[@GenerationOffended]

Thank you for coming with me on this one, its been a lot of fun. Its also been great to find a community that doesn’t conform to the tidal wave praise for this show

[@galaxyshii8853]

7:49 this could be a tinfoil hat theory, with how much this season favors fan service, I’m convinced the separation of Mel and Jayce has to do with just how popular Jayvik is in the fandom, that’s something I noticed a lot in season two, characters, their motivations, and their stories are forcibly changed to get as much ship related fanservice as possible Vi, and Ekko are the biggest examples to me, as both of their characters feel reduced to being one half of a romantic subplot/ship. The firelights are completely removed from Ekko’s story to focus more on him being in love with powder, which btw, was not hinted at in season one, but is something PULLED FROM THE GAMES, with no build up in the actual show (And I say that as a fan of timebomb, and no I don’t think the bridge scene counts as romantic confirmation) Vi is completely compromised as a character to justify her still being with Caitlin and brushing all of her fascist dictator actions under the rug. I hate that her essentially losing powder AGAIN is seen as okay because “oh she has Caitlin and she’s obviously more important”, the show ends how it started, jinx and vi losing each other, it feels weak, if we’re following the theory that’s basically confirmed by the writers around, that jinx escapes the explosion and is on the airship, that I think the ending would’ve been better if vi went after jinx and they both fell and jinx got them both out and they left Piltover together ( tho I probably wouldn’t have them fight Vander in the finale at all since yaknow, it completely separated them from the main story going on) Mel and Jayce’s relationship, hell Mel as a character suffers this too, is thrown out the window to give Jayce and Viktor as tied together as possible (tho obviously not romantically canon) It’s something that really bothers me especially since if you point this out, the fandom is quick to dog pile you, especially caitvi fans who are quick to call you homophobic for even slightly criticizing the ship, and if you ARE lgbt and still criticize the ship, you must hate yourself….😐😑😐

[@blacktigerpaw1]

It's not really a tinfoil hat theory since Amanda admitted Mel was the "disposable black girlfriend." But the two seasons were written back to back so the JayVik fandom wouldn't have influenced it. However there are some bones thrown to it especially in EP 8 when Jayce says that Mel "manipulated" him when she didn't.

[@maremsamy4850]

"Disposable Black girlfriend " Eww that sound kind humiliating for mel's charecter and honestly sad I wonder if amenda really said this how come she wasn't critisied for it ​@@blacktigerpaw1

[@shadowolf31520]

don't forget how Jinx sneaked into this whole prison without being found out at all like c'mon you would think they have more security than that she even showed herself to a guard who at this point have been arresting everyone with blue hair like c'mon

[@slei4676]

Ahh you see but that one particular guard happened to be retarded so it makes sense

[@boggart159]

Yes but like the guard said she heard that dozens of times, and also it was the noxians who were arresting all the people with blue hair she was just a guard she wouldn't have had that order.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

And don't forget they don't even bother checking the identity of the "cop" who brought in the second most wanted criminal of zaun, SEVIKA. She's silco's second in command you'd think they'd be suspicious if a tiny cop suddenly walked in with her and barely any resistance.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@@boggart159 did u miss all the parts in the music montage where enforcers were attacking and holding down all the blue haired idiots?

[@boggart159]

@@Of_infinite_Faith yes because of the noxians soldiers push to be more militaristic she is a guard not a piltover soldier

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

21:37 someone on reddit unironically told me he liked the "oinked poison" line.

[@GenerationOffended]

Oof.

[@mishan3168]

That was Christian linke

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@@mishan3168 to think 3 years ago were calling linke a genius... He was given all the credit. The only good thing he did was push back against the shippers.

[@mishan3168]

@@Of_infinite_Faith they paint linke like a hero in documentary. And we belive that. But now, since I know that some writers leave, yet they said ain't shit about them in documentary. I don't really believe in it that much anymore. Maybe Christian deserves praise for his passion and stubbornness to bring arcane to life. But now we clearly see that he isn't good writer.

[@TwinklingMysticShot]

I love when pigs oink poisen

[@0Sutekinaryuu0]

That ‘oink poison’ line still bugs the heck out of me lol None of the word pairs sound right. Oink - poison Poison - (into) ear Ear - you ate Needed redrafted for sure

[@GenerationOffended]

Idk how that one got past the first draft. Truly awful lol.

[@blacktigerpaw1]

Should've been, "That war pig squealed in your ear and you stood there and took it."

[@mischr13]

she's a pig and they oink and we...eat pigs? 🤔 nah, still doesn't work. the one that bugs me is "I'm the dirt under you nails, cupcake". it's supposed to be romantic but suddenly I'm imagining someone with dirty hands holding a cupcake and feeling like 🤢

[@chrisheretic4448]

@@mischr13 yeh like caitlin kirraman ever had dirt under her nails

[@badumba5511]

They spent months on that stupid line with 'dirt under the nails' which was still a stupid one, arcane s2 would've never came out given the peace these uncreative tortoises work at (actually that would've been better).

[@jennadougherty4695]

These videos are so cathartic. Anywhere else on the Internet I get told I’m a troll who obviously didn’t watch the show if I say I didn’t like this season.

[@GenerationOffended]

You're in the inner circle here. The defenders of this show do not dwell in this a part of the internet.

[@space_acee]

The overall reception of Arcane S2 has showed me how "normie" the LoL base truly is. S2 is literally just fan service slop and people unironically eat it up.

[@6Kubik]

​@@space_aceethere have been other people talking about the plot holes. But i think people are so flashed by the pretty pictures, the emotions and actions to realize S2 has many problems. I actually needed 2 weeks to understand why the season felt "strange" to me.

[@AngelaQuintero-d7x]

What a great scene when Ekko sees Vi gassing Zaun because the enforcers are looking for Jinx, Ekko confronts her and Caitlyn treats him like an animal, then they invade his tree thinking that Jinx is there and Ekko confronts her while Caitlin ends up arresting the refugees for not wanting to talk. and then Heirmendiger comes out with a dinosaur robot attacking Vi, in the distraction the professor disarms hier gloves, the professor fails to save everyone but Vi is captured and Caitlin continues on her way in search of Jinx.

[@pedrokantor3997]

WTF?

[@leylaS07]

Oh no believe me as soon as I saw Vander, Silco and the sisters' mother in the same room, I knew we were in trouble.

[@MapRef.41degreesN93degrresW]

*WHY NOT SAVE ALL OF THEM MEL* Because that would be inconvenient for the writers.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

Exactly lmao. Mel's powers were really just an ass pull so they could make the council less complicated by killing half of them and so they could have Mel as a new champion even though her death would serve the story better and she had finished her character arc in s1. It was never about telling a good story it was about selling the game

[@Koppen3568]

In short Arcane season 2 to me i so bad that I don't consider it to be a follow-up from the first season. I hope in time that I forget season 2 even exists..

[@GenerationOffended]

With the multiverse now we can imagine this was all in a cursed timeline lol.

[@AetherealGirl]

Your videos are such a breath of fresh air. I got crucified by the fandom for simply saying I didn't like S2 lol. I was beginning to think I was crazy until I found your series. You put all my thoughts into words more eloquently than I ever could.

[@GenerationOffended]

You’re too kind, glad I could provide that for you. I got a lot of heat from the fandom when I started the series, but now it seems like more people are waking up to how bad it truly is.

[@SummerIrvin]

I regularly enjoy kinda bad tv, I can ignore bad things and appreciate the cool things. Lots of things can be flawed because they're too ambitious, and I can respect that. NOT s2, I'm too outraged about everything. They butchered what the past writers were trying to build. And how much effort did they even put in it? Huck from s1 was a very plot device-y character, I don't think he even got 5 minutes of screen time, and he's way more of a proper fleshed out character than Isha.

[@Edo江戸江戸]

I was more hyped for this part to come out than I was for Arcane during it's release days. Having said that, thanks for this amazing critique!

[@GenerationOffended]

Thank you for all the support man, glad you enjoyed the series.

[@mirage_wanderlust4636]

GREAT SERIES DUDE! I'm actually surprised you didn't include all the unhinged/mental breakdown Christian Linke had on reddit and twitter/X. But with how mind numbing Arcane season 2 was I think it speaks for itself 😂! I guess the only bright side of Arcane S2 is that "Welcome Noxus" looks pretty cool 😅...

[@GenerationOffended]

Thanks man! I totally forgot about that until now. Jeez well I will have to bring that up in a later video when I come back to the show.

[@Fr00gi]

Great video, as always. In a wierd way Season 2 has shown us how good season 1 was. If Season 1 was shit, we would not care about the characters and season 2. But because season 1 was amazing, we wanted to see more of Jinx, Vi and Caytlin. That said I am happy that we even Got a season 1 at all. In the end it is Riots money so they Can decide what to do.

[@GenerationOffended]

Its crazy seeing the contrast between the two seasons. The bar was exceptionally high but season 2 got no where near it. Season 1 is still one of the best seasons of television of all time, and since we got multiverses now we can all pretend that season 2 was just in the cursed timeline lol.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

S1 had its own plot holes too but at least it was good at invoking emotions

[@saltator8565]

​@@Of_infinite_FaithAnd those plot holes were kinda excusable, since we assumed that season 2 would properly wrap them up. We were wrong though lol 😅

[@beccaknight5763]

Mel and Jayce left me with a lot of questions. 🤔 I agree about the fandom, I see arguments already (even people saying it got taken over by shippers) but unless the series falls off more in subsequent seasons, I don’t think they’ll ever find a middle ground.

[@penguin_momo]

I feel like I have been going insane saying that I dont like season 2. Thank you for making this series it feels so validating

[@GenerationOffended]

The tide is beginning to turn, the blind praise is ending. I am seeing more people be critical of Arcane S2 now. Glad you enjoyed this series!

[@penguin_momo]

@GenerationOffended I have also noticed a shift and people starting to be more critical of season 2. Glad people are being more critical of the media they consume

[@FlorV_007]

In the finale, it is suggested that Jinx can shimmer-zip her way out mid air through a vent which is quite far, but apparently she is unable to catch up to a 6 years old...

[@GenerationOffended]

Great point lol. I didn't think about that. Her powers are wildly inconsistent. The shimmer that also increased her mental instability also vanished, she has only one breakdown in season 2 and its for a second.

[@antololo2579]

arcane s2 is like second season of Promised Neverland. It doesn't exist.

[@GenerationOffended]

Multiverse means we can say its just one of the countless timelines

[@Izaac_Artist]

I do hope you have a Patreon just to save these videos so that if one day a absolute die hard arcane fan decides to hate on these videos and report them to KZbin theyll most likely take them down which would really suck cause these are very informative videos for people that want to make an argument for how much Arcane season 2 sucks and how future shows should avoid arcanes mistakes. 17:00 And right there and then is why I was so upset on how they decided to turn ambessa evil or whatever help Victor for no reason when they should have had her realize her decisions...I'm just so upset I can't even explain I'm pretty sure you know what I mean 😔

[@GenerationOffended]

I hope that doesn’t happen that would be disappointing. I don’t have a patreon rn, I think ill wait to do that for now but i have all my videos saved. Totally agree. Ambessa was an idiot for trusting a guy who literally consumes the minds of his followers lol. Hive mind people don’t have allies.

[@enzoys]

bro, just from checking the thumbnails I thought you were some random youtuber milking ragebait for an acclaimed show. But I was genuinely surprised to find a random youtuber with some of the most well structured arguments I've seen critiquing any show, and I agree with basically everything. This is great for clearing up some of those weird, bittersweet feelings we sometimes get while watching a show but can’t quite put into words why it feels bad-usually simplifying it to “idk, feels rushed”. now, idk if you’re into anime, but a show I'd like for you to make a review would be "To Your Eternity". It started off great but was followed by some of the worst media I've ever seen for a second season. That or you could take on a harder and more controversial opinion and agree with me that Vinland Saga, both S1 and the so-acclaimed S2, were actually trash. and for a story based game, I would say Detroit: Become Human. I found it also started with an incredible premise and had a strong opening, but blew it with a lot of cliches and lazy writing along the way. Of course, I’m talking about the "main routes" with the most popular decisions, that is.

[@GenerationOffended]

Wow man thank you. Really glad you enjoyed my take, it was a lot of fun making the series. I am not huge into anime but it is something my friends are trying to encourage, I will look into this. I played Detroit many times, it would be cool to re-visit it with a bit more of a critical eye. It would be an interesting one to review, I have been thinking about doing some game reviews. God of War Ragnarok is one I've been debating on making a video on. Thanks for the suggestions, I will have to think on them.

[@sersnuggles7697]

Thank you again, I always love drinking coffee to hearing you tearing arcane s2 to shreds! Do a review for house of the dragon season 2, similar issues

[@GenerationOffended]

Thanks for watching! It was a real pleasure to make these videos. I already made a series on HOTD Season 2. That show was another letdown of last year, just one bad season of television after another.

[@sersnuggles7697]

@GenerationOffended I'll have to watch it for today's coffee then haha. How about got s8 or atla live action remake. Tho I just watched on call on Amazon prime, it's pretty good, the drama and writing is right and punches the gut

[@GenerationOffended]

Hope you enjoy it. I haven't watched atla and GoT was before my time on KZbin. Its something I reference often on my channel. Arcane season 2 was a similar level of disappointment as GoT was.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

16:53 also mel doesn't even try to stop anything eith her magic while in the camp. Yes it would be risky but it's worth a try, she's literally magic.

[@AmmiO2]

These videos were great. I made my own Season 2 videos and, in hindsight, wish I'd crafted them more like you did.

[@GenerationOffended]

Thats really kind man, thank you. Its good to see other people making honest content about this show.

[@Crelixal]

Congrats on making it to the end!🎉

[@GenerationOffended]

Thanks man! Its been a blast.

[@Zeyga]

Excellent video as always dude.

[@GenerationOffended]

Thanks man, its been a pleasure making this series!

[@wak773]

at the very beginning, on the bridge, vi was pointing to herself when looking at vander, as if they already knew each other. while i do agree that silco knowing who vi and jinx were is a total retcon, part of me wonders, if the bar scene in season 2 never happened, would we ever have gotten any more info on vi and jinx's parents, the life they lived before vander took them in?

[@kyuubi3338]

They have already announced Noxus, I guess spin-off?, with Mel. I am not interested. The animation looks as good as ever, but in my eyes they have already failed.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

Idk how they expect me to care about Mel after that shitty character arc in s2 and that robotic line delivery

[@badumba5511]

I hope they bleed money, unfortunately Arcane s2 has gathered a pretty large fan base of brain rot fans who love eating the cheapest slop. I still hope they bleed money, let the big corpo suffer more.

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

​@badumba5511 the shippers need to be hunted down

[@WizdaVision]

*_"In the pursuit of great, we failed to do good."_* Thank you for this series. It has been very therapeutic for me. Also appreciate your sense of humor with the well executed cutaways edits. Definitely lightens the mood. RIP Arcane. I will remember you as you were (Season 1), not what you became (Season 2). If you are still taking suggestions, can you review Sonic the Hedgehog 3 or the whole trilogy, if you haven't seen any of them? Subscribed to the channel, wishing you much success with your channel!

[@GenerationOffended]

The quote perfectly sums up the season. Thank you for supporting the channel I really appreciate it. I haven't watched them yet but I am planning on doing a video on video game movies and will have to cover the series then. Thank you for the recommendation!

[@Kantorek17]

Great video, though have to provide my pov on one moment in it which I thought might be a bit incorrect 3:20 - I used to think that S1 never established Vander knowing Vi and Powder parents. But honestly, after rewatching S1 it looks like he actually did. It's never said straightforward, but it looks like it's heavily implied in both bridge scenes (the opening and when Vander takes Vi out for a talk). Like why Vi would ask a complete stranger question «Where's mum», abd why then Vander looks up exactly in direction where their parents are. For him to know who are their parents he must know them at least a little bit. Same with the scene on the bridge. He once again brings up Vi's parents death. However it is quite possible they weren't really close though. I believe originally Vander life wasn't far different from what we see in Ep1-Ep3. He's a leader that knows everyone and tries to protect everyone. So maybe he wasn't in close friendship with the girls' parents, but at least he most likely definitely knew them. Although not like established in S2 flashbacks/music videos

[@GenerationOffended]

To me it seemed like Vander and the e mom obviously knew each other as you said, he knew who their parents were on the bridge however it seems doubtful that they we’re supposed to be close friends like we see in S2. It makes sense that they would know each other to some degree as Vander was their leader but to be best friends? Why did Vander never bring it up in dialogue. S2 made it seem like they were the trio who took on Piltover together which certainly doesn’t work for Silco’s character. Like i said in the video it can work to some degree but it also lessens the choice Vander makes to take care of Powder and Vi because he was already obligated to.

[@nooshy805]

Oh no! I'll miss this series, your analysis of this season was amazing and definitely reshaped my entire opinion on it. I'll gladly be one of the few who refuse to accept this garbage as a worthy sequel to one of the greatest TV shows of all time. Thank you again for taking the time to break everything down so well, hope you enjoy your break from picking season 2 apart.

[@GenerationOffended]

I really appreciate that, thank you. Its been quite a journey, I’m glad you could join me on it, been a real pleasure

[@omarrojo9484]

At least The Penguin was good.

[@stefanoterragnolo6458]

that is a show who understands characters and how they affect and are affected by the plot

[@GenerationOffended]

One of the few gems this year.

[@omarrojo9484]

@@stefanoterragnolo6458 I agree with that, and I'm sorry for going grammar police on you. But the correct way of saying it is: "a show THAT understands..." or; " that is a show WHICH understands...". Who is used for people. As in; "The man WHO/THAT sold the world". I'm not trying to come up as condescending, so I apologize for this. Maybe it was just a slight mistake on your part and you were already aware of the difference. But just in case.

[@stefanoterragnolo6458]

@@omarrojo9484 no worries. Thanks for the corrections. I'm Italian and unfortunately I can't use my hand gestures to communicate like a true Italian would do👌🫴🙌😄

[@pride_mitochondria3921]

Well at least Thanos was always a genocidal nutjob, literally the "Mad Titan". In Arcane the MCUification dragged Viktor down to make him the big bad. The piss poor flip of the switch reasoning of Ultron, mixed with the nonsensical answer for peace of Thanos, topped off with the nameless drone soldiers of the Chitauri from Avengers 1. You cannot make this up. 💀

[@eumefmeauh6193]

Bro, it was really nice series about Arcane S2, I subscribed and look forward for more reviews of various media, if you feel like doing them!

[@GenerationOffended]

Thanks man, glad you enjoyed my take!

[@saintdeluca]

Your insights are very helpful, I wanted to share them with other people at an animation studio I work for, but the cussing in the series makes it unable to share or play at the office. Not sure how much work it would take to put out the series without the cursing in it. If you do, I'm looking to play these out loud while we work. Either way, thanks for posting the insights.

[@GenerationOffended]

Thanks man, yeah my videos aren't very worker friendly lol. Not sure if I will but maybe I'll bleep it out in the future.

[@saintdeluca]

@@GenerationOffended We really do appreciate your making these videos. If I'm not mistaken, your channel was one of the first to give critics of Arcane S2 when a lot of people were silent about the issues. You bring up great points !

[@naomigallacher7384]

Or your studio could grow the fuck up?

[@pedrokantor3997]

Who are your coworkers, children?

[@7hkey]

15:10 - Why make it about soccer moms? Like it's not everybody that is constantly scrolling on their phone no matter what they are otherwise doing including watching TV. In fact, doing housework is probably less mentally distracting than constantly being on Tik Tok.

[@azvr8997]

I love ur season 2 rant videos as much as i love arcane season 1

[@malune___790]

Next Squid Game S2? It was interesting to see people hating on it so passionately, while I personally found it a worthy continuation, if not a step up from the first season. They went deeper into the game's system, explored psychology of the people working for it, against it, new character tropes / dynamics and made an even stronger point on majority decision making. My only weaker points were the votings' screen time and policeman's storyline, though the latter will probably get more attention in future episodes. Would be cool to hear your thoughts on the show.

[@GenerationOffended]

I was considering giving that one a go. I haven’t seen it yet but I really liked season 1. Been hearing mixed reviews so it would be interesting to see how it is. Its a really cool show. I will keep that suggestion in mind.

[@TessaKEYAMO-j5w]

I love narrating your videos to my brother lol😂. Honestly you're one of the only sane ppl out there .this season was trash and I'm happy someone had the audacity to say it👍

[@Demiurge_art]

Very cool analysis. Thank you. My thoughts coincided. I don't like multiverses😤

[@GenerationOffended]

Glad you enjoyed it. Multiverses certainly have overplayed at this point. So tired of every show and movie jumping on the band wagon.

[@akiraevangelionultimateali5199]

They should of ended on a cliffhanger and do a film

[@olivertan8994]

I think Singed wouldn't want to use his blood to recall vander bc he'll go into a frenzy again and i think its fair to be scared of that. Do i know why he did it while still IN prison? nope, since he'd presumably die as well but at least he thought abt it once. great series that articulated just about everything i FELT about arcane s2 that i couldn't even fathom putting into words myself, so kudos to you and thank you for scratching that itch. Looking forward to what you'll do next! Also, in regard to multiverses, you should read "The Midnight Library" by Matt Haig. I may be biased since it brought me a lot of comfort when I needed it, so it may not be as good a story as I remember it. That said, I at least THOUGHT it was an interesting use of the multiverse to enact character development.

[@raeldri5867]

the flashback was supposed to be a tool to show that Vander deep down was always the violent one and when he turned into Warwick he no longer can contain his violent nature intead they used as cheap fan service because "everyone likes Vander we cant show him in a negative light"

[@boguslav9502]

Concernign the multiverse, they set it up so poorly that I genuinely thought it was the Arcane messing with them creating this "stasis" for their minds to keep them dwelling in a place so they couldn't escape and shut it down. Echoes entire introduction into that world screams this, almost as if his mind is being smothered, forced to accept the hallucination. A kind of "world of your wildest desires." thing that preys on peoples strengths nad turns them into weaknesses (echoes loyalty and Heimerdingers desire for peace). Then I was hit with the Jayce scene and I remember being completely disoriented. It seemed as if there were two forces fighting for his attention and mind and it turned into a hellscape. Only to be turned into a cheap Gotcha at the end. They didn't win, Victor won against Victor making Jayce lose all his causality. In the end the show was a girl boss show...

[@1MHCS]

Good conclusion, full agree on that it seemed like it lacked respect for everything they set up in season 1. Please be careful not to become one of those KZbinrs who only does negative reviews though! Highly recommended Pantheon!

[@GenerationOffended]

I like to do positive reviews don't worry. I'm a cheery guy.

[@1MHCS]

@@GenerationOffended Haha, I know I know, I just seen some of my favorites go that way. But really, great closing to it all. Now if only season 2 had even a half decent ending... or writing... well, you know, you made the videos about it!

[@GenerationOffended]

Well this last year was particularly bad for tv, it was hard to find a good show besides the Penguin and Shogun. Hopefully this year some better stuff comes out.

[@DavidGraybill-l6d]

This is one of those shows you just forget what happens after and just enjoy what once was.S2 had some good moments,but it was blunted by it's pacing and loss of focus.This really should have focused on Vi and Powder and the War.

[@spectacularspider-man4886]

ANOTHER ONE LETS GOO

[@DerBrasilianerKaiser]

There is an interview with Amanda. Which she openly admits that part of the romance between Vi and Caitlyn was because Amanda had never felt really represented in video games (as a lesbian) and thought it would be a good opportunity. In other words, all of Vi and Caitlyn's lesbian romance (which is terrible and poorly written) is 99% "self insert" and Amanda's fetish🤡👍🏻

[@Lesbean_Burrito]

It was written well in Season 1. It just had no setup or buildup to make any sense in Season 2.

[@GenerationOffended]

Lol i love that Amanda said she feels most connected with a literal dictator.

[@gritaverbickaite8160]

@@GenerationOffended well then those who feel connected to jinx really likes terrorists and murderers so good to know

[@maxinea.sakaki4151]

My headcannon is that Vander/Warwick is making up memories with the corpse of vi and power mother even uf ge didn't met her before, that's how far gone he is mentally

[@GenerationOffended]

My headcannon is that this is just one of the infinite timelines, that may be the only good thing about the multiverse lol.

[@dacoolestzzz]

Ngl i think ive just been pretending arcane season 2 isn't canon cuz yeah the characters themselves aren't even the same people anymore. Did we start the season in a different dimension already or what

[@Of_infinite_Faith]

Isha is there to create cheap drama. Vi could've easily taken the gun out of her hand and picked her up and away from the scene. Cait could have easily shot jinx right there, she was at point blank range and a pro sniper. There was no reason not to shoot, she would not have missed if vi had her instincts and snatched the gun away from isha. Also how tf did jinx, Cait and vi get away from the scene where they were absolutely surrounded by noxian soldiers? Who we can also assume had the camp surrounded from the outside? Why is commander Caitlin a patrol? She's a commander ffs.

[@Just_Kumoki]

Arcane was perfect in season one. I didn't feet like season two was necessary at all and now that we know that the focus of Arcane is going to move to Mel as a main character I'm beyond disappointed. They took probably one if not the best character from season one, ruined her in season two and decided to make her a Disney strong woman main character for the future of the show...

[@LingYao9001]

I wanted so badly to like it. It really pains me how it turned out, but I gotta say thanks for telling it like it is so I don't feel crazy.

[@GenerationOffended]

No problem man, its a hard pill to swallow, I know.

[@LingYao9001]

It really was. When you lose something with so much potential for it to just rush through and swap for the mult-verse crap for something that could've been truly phenomenal is just painful to behold. You covering the reasons so well eased my shellshock a bit. lol Thanks again.

[@bluespectrum1348]

Finally part 9 xD