Archeologist reveals the actual human ancestral diet | Dr. Bill Schindler with Dr. Kevin Stock

Dr. Bill Schindler, an archeologist, joins Dr. Kevin Stock to discuss how to “eat like a human” and what an “ancestral diet” really entails: was it meat-based or plant-based? Did we eat raw or cooked (fire’s role in human evolution)?
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[@jaywhoisit4863]

I live in the Rift Valley. You know that place where we all came from ancestrally. There is very little indigenous vegetation that is edible. Apart from some leafy kale like greens, tubers, and melons, the abundant food has fur and feathers. Many species of (easy to hunt) antelope and fowl inhabit the Savanha now and as they have for millions of years. If mankind came from this cradle, then they were eating meat!

[@jasminejones9937]

Exactly ! thank "God" for authentic people like you 👍

[@knockingseeker]

What do you mean? You say there’s not much plants then you say there is plants. According to many sources online their diet is about 35% -50% meat. They eat lots of fibre rich tubers and babaob fruit

[@jaywhoisit4863]

@@knockingseeker You don’t have a clue what your saying. Let me be very straight forward, our ancestors from the Rift Valley would have starved without meat. This baobab tree thing is complete nonsense, because they are not common whatsoever and only grow in the arid regions of Africa. Ancient humans from here ate meat almost exclusively because it’s practically the only thing edible here. Foraging for vegetation would be a hugely difficult task, but why would you when you can literally walk up to a wildebeest and stab it? No effort whatsoever.

[@beaubolinger1521]

Thank you Mr Ja from the Rift Valley

[@deefee701]

If it was so fantastic, why did people leave the area? And you can't look at what grows there wild now and say there's never been a change. Nature is always adapting.

[@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284]

I have to add something to this conversation. I'm in my 50's. I was a young mom in the early 90's, shopping and cooking for my family. The produce in the winter was ridiculously overpriced. The "fresh" produce was so disgusting. The lettuce was too bitter to consume, even with tons of dressing to mask the taste. I remember adding sugar to our small salads in an attempt to make them edible. What you got for the price you paid, wasn't worth it. Frozen was MUCH better, but everyone who had money switched to that around December, so the price jumped ridiculously high and the lower classes were cut out. We had potatoes and carrots. By January, even the squash was either out of season or too expensive for lower middle class to buy. This left us with canned produce. Throughout my childhood and into the late 90's, we ate almost exclusively canned fruit and veggies for at least 3-4 months out of the year. When you divide one can of green beans or corn for four people, that's giving you about 1/2 cup of veg. A day. On top of that there was usually spaghetti sauce in the house at least once a week. Nuts weren't cheap, either. There was no such thing as 'almond milk.' Growing up, other than peanut butter, nuts were a holiday treat - not a household staple. Berries were usually consumed as jelly or jam on toast or a PB&J and we consumed raisins less than a handful at a time. We ate berries, watermelon, and cantaloupe in season. Pineapple was canned and rare because it wasn't cheap. My point is that people talk about ancestral diets lacking year 'round produce, but many of US didn't have access to tons of fresh produce like we do now. I was a 'health food nut' and still wasn't ABLE to get a ton of good, fresh produce year 'round until the 2000's. We are absolutely not adapted to the USDA diet in any way, shape, or form. When you recognize that so many of the veggies we have now didn't even exist a few hundred years ago, it's baffling that the 'experts' believe that this is how people were designed to eat. How? We came into ourselves with meat and fire. That's the only constant that we've ever had.

[@enriquepena84]

Check the Channel of Varis Ahmad It Will more sense to eat raw than cooked

[@lyyliesther984]

​@@enriquepena84yes but what about parasites or toxoplasma?

[@enriquepena84]

@@lyyliesther984 if the animals are properly maintain it is not a problem, only when the sanitary conditions are poor it should be problematic, also most of we know about illnesses are partially wrong to keep big pharma rich

[@lyyliesther984]

​@@enriquepena84 I was interested in fermenting raw meat so I looked into the process however the thought of parasites put me off. I live in the bush in remote Australia which is pretty clean. And a few times I have seen wild bush rats staggering around in broad daylight as they slowly die. I don't know what sickness they have. However Toxoplasma is a little emeba thing in raw meat that people mostly catch off Cat poo because Cats eat raw meat (which may be infected), Cats also can catch it off rats which when they are infected show no fear. Toxoplasma can infect your brain and you might not know you have it because sometimes the symptoms might just be that you take more risks behaviourly.

[@enriquepena84]

@@lyyliesther984 you said it cat poo, if the meat it is not contaminated it shouldn't be a problem

[@sandileeinpv]

Love the interview. Would love to see a follow-up. Bill Schindler speaks from first hand experience. He knows how to make and use all the weapons of our ancestors and survive in the wild. As he mentioned, The Great Human Race by National Geographic is tremendously educational and well worth watching. I also want to add... I lived in the Amazon jungle and spent time with the natives. These people are phenomenal hunters and don't go for days without eating. They have food all the time. Even the children are skilled with bows and arrows. We had a hunter for our camp and had fresh meat, fish or fowl every day.

[@markpappas9858]

What an incredible experience that must have been. All inclusive lessons of life.

[@anonperson3972]

One important thing about plants is HOW your eating them. As he explained, tbe processing was lengthy. Grains and beans for example were usually sprouted and or fermented. Which does three things 1: gets rid of a large portion of the toxic compounds snd anti nutrients 2: pre digests the food, making it more nutritious 3: enforces your gut biome, making it better at digesting and dealing with the plant foods. What people wer3 NOT doing is eating whole grain granolas and green smoothies....

[@demoncore5342]

Exactly, since for ever the best flour was the cleanest, whitest flour one could get. But now it's supposed to be something that used to be fed to pigs and chickens not that long ago...

[@curcio63]

I've been doing a green smoothie every day for about 10 years, but only recently have started to question whether or not I should drink one. Can you explain your argument against them? Is it mainly the anti nutrients like phthalates?

[@ianstuart5660]

@@curcio63 Yes, and oxalate, tannins, etc. Plus the bioavailability doesn't compare to animal sources!

[@olderandwiser127]

@@curcio63 oxalic acid, phytic acid, psoralen, solanine, goitrogens, and many more.

[@franciscomacedo5670]

@@curcio63 the list is of anti nutrients is long . . . and the bioavailability and absorption is questionable !!

[@ricknplano1401]

What an excellent interview of an intriguing guest. Thank you.

[@davidgmillsatty1900]

I have been low carb since 1996 and carnivore or near carnivore for about 2.5 years. I am 72 and I read a lot. I am a retired personal injury attorney. There are a couple of published papers I have not seen discussed in the carnivore arena that I think should be and people should be more aware of. 1. Soy protein meals stimulate less gastric acid secretion and gastrin release than beef meals. From the abstract ..... We compared the effects of meals containing the same amounts of either isolated soy or beef protein on acid secretion and serum gastrin concentration in normal humans. Acid secretion measured by in vivo intragastric titration was 30%-40% less with soy than beef protein (p less than 0.05), whether isolated soy protein alone was compared with a mixed beef meal containing carbohydrate and fat or whether soy or beef meals containing similar amounts of fat were compared. Average gastrin rises were 65%-75% less with soy than with beef (p less than 0.01). 2. Humans were apex predators for two million years. From the press release in phis.org .... In a process unprecedented in its extent, Dr. Ben-Dor and his colleagues collected about 25 lines of evidence from about 400 scientific papers from different scientific disciplines, dealing with the focal question: Were stone-age humans specialized carnivores or were they generalist omnivores? Most evidence was found in research on current biology, namely genetics, metabolism, physiology and morphology.... For instance, research on stable isotopes in the bones of prehistoric humans, as well as hunting practices unique to humans, show that humans specialized in hunting large and medium-sized animals with high fat content. Comparing humans to large social predators of today, all of whom hunt large animals and obtain more than 70% of their energy from animal sources, reinforced the conclusion that humans specialized in hunting large animals and were in fact hypercarnivores. Once I read the first paper, I began to realize why I had irritable bowel from the time I was 16 until just a few months ago. Whenever you consume too many carbs and not enough meat protein, you simply do not create enough stomach acid or enzymes to properly digest your food. If for some reason, I do not eat enough meat with a meal, I have digestion problems. I have found that taking a HCL pill with pepsin fixes that problem. Curiously that has corrected two other problems: difficulty urinating and tachycardia. The tachycardia issue has been a problem for me for 30 years. The fact that we need meat protein to create enough acid to properly digest our food is just further evidence that we are carnivores. And not creating enough stomach acid and enzymes is definitely going to contribute to or may be be the primary reason for leaky gut.

[@ronaldnichols9945]

Our ancestors did not eat grains and plant fats. They ate animal meat and fat. Now, people are eating a plant based woe resulting in massive increases in heart disease, type 2 diabetes and obesity. I am allergic to gluten because my hunter gatherer ancestors did not eat grains.

[@Bandhu241]

My dad is 90 years old. Is a strict vegetarian (no fish, eggs, or meat). He is healthy and free of diseases. Furthermore, the mother of the Indian Prime Minister (Modi) is still alive and well at the age of 100. A strict vegetarian as well. Throughout history, there has been a concept of evolution. It has evolved for humans to age well on a vegetarian or vegan diet.

[@ronaldnichols9945]

@@Bandhu241 In the U S, since we are eating a plant based diet, type 2 diabetes, heart disease and obesity have greatly increased. This is evidence that the plant based diet is harming people. We have not evolved past our hunter/gatherer ancestors but still need a mostly meat diet

[@Bandhu241]

@@ronaldnichols9945 Please read the "China Study" for detailed and documented evidence. Having said that, please eat what suits your body type.

[@ronaldnichols9945]

@@Bandhu241 Perhaps you should look at the videos of Dr Ken Berry and Dr Shawn Baker. Then make an informed decision.

[@naomiklahn4623]

@@ronaldnichols9945 and, don't forget Type III diabetes (dementia)

[@LivingTheLifeRetired]

Great interview. Thanks.

[@tawnyaelliott1268]

Just discovered your channel. Love this!

[@bgeigs22]

I love this format 😃

[@annarice5162]

Very interesting video, thank you!

[@Marcinmd1]

Yes, have him back for a full hour... Im a big fan.

[@carrdoug99]

Great video. I agree with your guest. Quest for Fire is outstanding. In my top ten favorite films. Also love the mini series/documentary he was in.

[@GwenNolan]

Yes full meal please!

[@guy3409]

I bought the kindle book while watching this - it's such an interesting topic

[@ShihanTomCallahan]

fascinating convo

[@michaelt2974]

Isn’t the issue not whether our ancestors ate plants and how recent agriculture is, but rather whether the current plants we eat are technically healthful.

[@vociferonheraldofthewinter2284]

Very important point. Most of what we have didn't exist 500 years ago. Not enough time for us to adjust to it.

[@jess3591]

The insight about fire was really illuminating. It makes perfect sense from an evolutionary perspective. Our relationship with fire likely developed long before we learned to control it, especially in areas prone to forest fires and volcanic activity. This was a bit more than a snack, but it was a lot of good intellectual "nutrition". Thanks for the hardy meal for thought, gentlemen 😊

[@KevinStock12]

It was a long snack :) Thanks for eating with us!

[@stanrobertson]

I see what you did here - the "fire" was "illuminating"!

[@ericsonhazeltine5064]

As a former archaeology student, I would say that early humans ate anything they could get

[@karlwheatley1244]

Finally, someone who knows what's up.

[@anyajohnson4471]

Ah, the scarcity-fight-or-flight school of thought. You have already been debunked.

[@librarianlovesrick]

Dr Schindler and his wife did a wonderful presentation at Ketocon in April 2023. I hope he goes back!

[@thomashutt3924]

I'm a 72 year old carnivore. I've watched Quest for Fire dozens of time. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

[@demoncore5342]

Aatra, aatra!

[@juliannacalifornia]

Quest for Fire was a really good movie. Ive seen it 3 times thru the years

[@michelleahrens3359]

Love your show you did on national geophysic thankyou I will try and get your book ,thhankyou for your show sir good life

[@retravis1]

From an evolutionary perspective early humans were opportunists in addition to being hunter gatherers, much like vultures they would find dead animals that were hunted by other carnivores. Our stomach acid very high and allows us to eat meat that is several days old. I have to wonder if mans best friend the dog, started with mans best friend the wolves??

[@KevinStock12]

Sorry we went a bit longer in this Snack, it was just too good to put my fork down! :)

[@karimlours]

I was hungry for more snacks. So don’t apologize for having a longer video. I just could not get enough honestly

[@CVo83]

I’m more of a meal person anyway. Good stuff, Doc!

[@Marcinmd1]

Id like him to address fermentation the next time you have him on.. thanks

[@temogen2]

We are little bit older than 300 thousand years.

[@brianmason9361]

The torch bearer was sacred job.

[@philipbutler6608]

They ate a lot of fish meat and seasonal plants nuts were storable. Potatoes were only in America so were squashes, turkey and corn. You can make tea out of Youpon Holly it’s quite good.

[@hatchett999ify]

Stay away from sugar. Plain and simple.

[@herdmentality101]

Great interview! I am wondering why you didn't mention a frugivore diet as our digestive tract is long so not evolved for meat and cooked vegies. Yet I do know plenty of people who thrive on a carnivore diet

[@dansullivan2381]

Fascinating

[@rlwings]

Your videos are fantastic! - But bro, please get rid of that annoying timer! - I can't concentrate! Lol. - My brain only wants to follow the timer!

[@Christensen1970]

Where do I get that T shirt

[@johntatman9168]

It would seem that while man millions of years ago may have eaten some plants it was more for survival during scarce times. That certainly doesn't mean they were the ideal food but if they could help stave of starvation they served their prupose. It seems reasonable to believe that if animal food sources were readily available at all times that's what they would have eaten and humans would never have looked for plant foods.

[@donwinston]

Good grief. It doesn't get any dumber.

[@demoncore5342]

Like let's be fair, I will not even talk bears but wolves eat fruit and berries in season. Let's not get as dumb as vegans.

[@johntatman9168]

@@demoncore5342 Absolutely, when in season and easily available. Bears eat a lot of things especially coming out of hibernation but even then if meat is as easily available which would they eat.

[@demoncore5342]

@@johntatman9168 And that's the point friend, we ate meat long before we became humans. But so we did fruit and honey. Humans did eat plants only as the last resort is the same BS as switching it for meat. Let's not turn in to a cult as the vegetarians did, that will help no one.

[@chrisconklin2981]

​@@demoncore5342 Personally I shy away from calling myself a vegan. I prefer Whole Foods Plant Based (WFPB). Vegan-"ism" is a philosophical position of not wanting to harm animals. As for WFPB, I strive to eliminate animal products from my diet. I find it hilarious all of this Carnivore stuff. I and most of the world could not afford to live your lifestyle. In addition, paleoanthropology has a lot to say about early human food gathering and a lot of what you talk about is just myth.

[@jackwalker1750]

Thank you Prometheus for the fire.

[@DanielDeMontreal]

Quest for fire is one of my favorite movies. Atre !

[@bonsummers2657]

@ 5:57 +, Mickey Bandor?

[@hauntyoo]

I'm actually interested how science based his book is.

[@williamwilson6499]

Archeologists reveal. Archeologist reveals.

[@philipbutler6608]

Beer, Ale Mead, wine and whiskey were ways people stored grain and fruit. They dried meat and fruits.

[@musclehustle4566]

Bill mentioned that in the past you could not eat like a bag of almonds.But also,was it possible to eat 2-3pounds of meat everyday in the past??? like a lot of carnivores preach

[@jaywhoisit4863]

My wife was raised in a traditional Kenya family. The grandfather was the designated hunter. He would set off every morning and run down antelope. He was basically naked with a knife and would just run and run and run until his prey collapsed from exhaustion. This was usually less than 3km at top speed. My wife ate antelope everyday of her childhood. So yes; pounds of the flesh every single day. Today she’s an extremely fit 40 year old that looks 30 and is a specialist doctor. She is a strong carnivore/keto advocate and we feed our children in this way.

[@carnivorehippie8071]

Humans have traditionally hunted as groups. For the majority of human preagricultural existence humans hunted the largest animals that were available. There is paleological evidence that human groups could kill and slaughter whole herds of large ruminants at one time. That's potentially thousands of pounds of meat divided among (at most) about a hundred people. So, yes, 1-3 pounds of meat per person per day is entirely possible during most of the year. And that would have been plenty to have physically enabled them to fast or semi-fast for weeks at a time during the lean season. They understood they had to gain body fat during the plentiful seasons in order to survive the lean ones. They probably ate as much meat and fat as they could stomach as often as they could get it.

[@musclehustle4566]

@@carnivorehippie8071yeah but in these times we dont need to eat as much we can stomach, back then it filled a purpose, Think it depends on where on the globe you were living.In parts of the world humans evolved around eating tubers fruits and such,I think a meat dominant diet is good, but you can mix in some fruits veggies and tubers.For myself i dont get to religious about diet. okinawans eat about 10-15% from lean proteis mostly fish and some pork, and a lot of sweet potatoes, still they have the most centenarians in the world, not only do they live long, but they have excellent health,i think humans evolved with their surroundings.up were i live in sweden, my forefathers did not eat 3 pounds of meat everyday, it would be impossible to hunt that much for everybody,The human spieces are very adaptable. I believe the modern human has evolved regarding what they were eating depending on where they lived geographically, Cause up here in sweden and other northern countries, dairy eggs and cheese for protein were staples and still are!

[@ianstuart5660]

@@jaywhoisit4863 Wow, good for you guys, sounds very smart to me!

[@carnivorehippie8071]

@@musclehustle4566 the question was would it have been possible for preagricultural humans to have obtained that much meat. NOT whether such intake was appropriate for today's humans. You have changed the subject.

[@williamw7462]

Like it.

[@anonperson3972]

I don't buy the concept of a single ancestral diet relevant to all modern people. The environments, lifestyles, diets and genes varied tremendously within different regions. In the fertile crescent people were baking bread 30,000 years ago, while they were eating baboa nuts, gazelle and roots in east africa and mammoth and horse in the eurasian steppe. Every historical group i know of ate animals, some ate very few plants, some ate lots of plants. Furthermore, we didn't stop evolving in the paleolithic, agricultural, pastoral and coastal transitions provided a huge evolutionary pressure. Eat to your genome...

[@therealdeal3672]

Not sure where you get 30,000 years ago as far as baking bread. It's estimated to be much more recent like 8,000 years ago. And that doesn't mean that people have ever developed the ability to be very healthy eating bread rather than meat. Certainly regional differences do exist. My ancestors come from a part of the world where dairy was utilized early. So I tolerate dairy well. But even dairy farming probably only began 12,000 years ago. For all humans some form of meat is our ancestral diet. And different plants would be available seasonally in different regions, in some regions no plants would be available. In the majority of the world dairy did not get consumed so most people cannot tolerate it and lose the ability to produce lactase in childhood. So there are undoubtedly some regional differences. However meat has always been a primary source of nutrients and remains so. Even though we have conditioned ourselves to get many calories from starches, doesn't mean that it is ideal for our health to do so.

[@antonius9098]

Besides movies which evidence do you have that ancestors did not let fire go off? To me sound more likely that they were good in survival skills and lighting up fires with basic tools.

[@cyndimanka]

I am carnivore but I will not give up my coffee. I’ve been drinking it since the 60s and I’m only 64. I was given it as a child. As an adult I really didn’t start drinking it till later after my 20s. I lived on Pepsi.

[@enriquepena84]

Caffee IS from Seeds a highly defend part of the plants and caffeine IS a drug that works messing with the chemistry of the brain

[@tylermoore4429]

I'd like to push back on the statement about technology being required to acquire animal foods but none required to prepare them. Eating raw meat is close to impossible, it does not dissolve in the mouth. Same with fat. Cooking both makes a world of difference given how our digestive system works. So how did Homo Habilis or Erectus consume meat for the 1-2 million years before they gained control of fire? Update: Just saw this video - kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGrGnIqCp9uJnsk - of a lecture by Richard Wrangham and he posits that the dramatic anatomical changes we see in the Homo genus were in fact triggered and sustained by the command of fire and access to meat, and this happened much earlier, about 1.9 million years ago, than there is currently evidence for. This makes a lot of sense to me and answers the question I posed above about Homo consuming raw meat and fat for millions of years without any predator-like adaptations of jaws or teeth.

[@KevinStock12]

The reason I asked Dr. Schindler about fire's "assumed necessity" in cooking is because my experience of eating mostly raw meat for about 6 years now is that I find it easy, I can eat fast, it digests perfectly, so I don't understand why some paleoanthropologists think we had to have control of fire before encephalization.

[@tylermoore4429]

@@KevinStock12 Found a paper that addresses precisely this question: "Impact of meat and Lower Palaeolithic food processing techniques on chewing in humans" by Katherine Zink and Daniel Lieberman. While I prefer Dr. Richard Wrangham's theory (that admittedly requires us to push the advent of cooking much further back than the current state of evidence will allow), you may appreciate this paper's hypothesis that the explanation for the increased brain and body sizes of Homo accompanied surprisingly by _smaller and weaker_ teeth and jaws lies in extensive pounding and maybe slicing the meat before consuming.

[@fleadoggreen9062]

When did we start cooking ? Bbq some steaks ? Always?

[@universerebel3638]

Bitcoin diploma behind you - you know the way brother.

[@patrickm3807]

The interview with Dr. Bill was interesting but one point doesn't make sense. He said our ancestors moved north into the starting of the ice age. Well, other experts say the ice age drove them south and we know animals have been found frozen with fresh food in their mouth suggesting the ice age was sudden and quick. And, there is one major factor that most archeologists leave out of the picture; God and creation. God rewards diligence and points us in the direction we need to go, ergo we learned how to make fire with sticks and stones.

[@Earwaxfire909]

Could it be that more civilizations developed earlier in Turkey was that there were more foods to gather and eat there?

[@barad-dur9236]

I eat a ton of vegetables and feel great lol

[@martinachandler5289]

Dr. Stock, I heard recently that it is best to use a toothpaste without Glycerin. Is that correct before I buy more non toxic but still glycerin containing toothpaste since I am almost out. _____Help please_______

[@Lea31706]

I have 2 black coffees in the morning then fizzy water ,I’m not here to make myself miserable lol

[@roxannehale1386]

At first I thought "why do I want to eat like humans ate and then died at 35, 40 years of age?" But when you think of the speed of development/evolution from cave man through mideaval, to today, its really more comparable to the speed and nutritional needs of an infant through teens. And if course today's American Standard Diet pyramid with all its many accolades is not only reduce,g out longevity, but making the journey unnecessarily painful and miserable, multiple epidemics around Metabolic Syndrom and Insulin Resistance and a wealth redistribution to the Pharma, chemical and medical establishments, the very ones spewing the false accolades.

[@thetiredworker4922]

Meal

[@TomSmith-vf2ox]

10 thousand years/3 million years= 0.00333 (0.00333 x 365=1.216 days not two weeks.

[@oldnorth2666]

We need to reverse the Neolithic debacle!

[@sahinhabesoglu510]

don't you cook your meat and how is it not processing?

[@banparlous2552]

because it's still one ingredient: meat. You're not eating fire

[@MarkEmmett]

"Reveals"

[@robertbeckler5058]

Ice age, unlimited fresh clean water from snow. If I was a caveman I would get to the glaciers and never be thirsty.

[@franciscomacedo5670]

deuterium free water ! the best there is !

[@robertbeckler5058]

@@franciscomacedo5670 15 thousand years ago , bet the snow was real tastee

[@charlestait5303]

When did humans begin being occasional cannibals?

[@oldnorth2666]

Probably in extreme conditions during the ice age?

[@demoncore5342]

Hard to say, some point in the younger stone age, first cities, first farmers... About there. In the older stone cannibalism is kinda normal.

[@janakubin2547]

I would go for last 5.000 years 😊

[@BluffMunkey]

Where did our ancestors get their teeth bleached, their hair mousse and skin moisturisers?

[@nevermindthebull0cks]

Walmart?

[@murrynathan]

Honestly, I don’t understand this obsession with what our “ancestors” ate. They ate what was available to them, just like all humans have. How about simply eating what our digestive systems were designed to process. Seems pretty simple to me.

[@bonsummers2657]

were, and, are. Are you indicating what we 'were' designed to process, vs. what 'we're' designed to process ?

[@murrynathan]

@@andyc7747 I just don’t see the importance. They weren’t in tune with nature or knew what to eat. They ate whatever they could get there hands on. If you wanna know what the proper human diet is, then look no further than your own gut. Is it primarily designed to digest the blood and guts of animals? Then just eat it up, yum!

[@darkfieldcarnivore3928]

It's interesting because what was eaten based on availability has dictated what we are anatomically and physiologically destined to eat now for optimal health.

[@knockingseeker]

@@andyc7747 no they did not. They spent time hunting and gathering. Some tribes are more than 50% calories from plants some ate more from animals.

[@knockingseeker]

@@andyc7747I was not were you?

[@TheShorterboy]

cooking goes back 750,000 years for hominids so it's cooked

[@odopaisen2998]

Knife is crap, Bitcoin Poster is evil --

[@bonsummers2657]

Not 'ironic', but rather 'coincident' @ 20:27 +. You're a doctor, you're educated? Come on.

[@Bandhu241]

My dad is 90 years old. Is a strict vegetarian (no fish, eggs, or meat). He is healthy and free of diseases. Furthermore, the mother of the Indian Prime Minister (Modi) is still alive and well at the age of 100. A strict vegetarian as well. Throughout history, there has been a concept of evolution. It has evolved for humans to age well on a vegetarian or vegan diet.

[@Structuredrelaxation]

Those are two out of billions of people in india. Sorry but that n=1 is not really compelling. I third of the Indian population is diabetics without being overweight and heart disease is the number one killer all while mostly consuming a vegetarian or vegan diet. Your father is lucky. Just as lucky as the 104 year ild smoker that drinks two dr Peppers each an every day.

[@Bandhu241]

@@Structuredrelaxation In India, over 80% of people eat meat. Therefore, your comparison is invalid. Our discussion is limited to strict vegetarians, which may account for 10% of the Indian population

[@demoncore5342]

Funny how the plant based crowd brushes off anything similar as anecdotal...

[@Kelsey260]

Look at our teeth. That’s the answer

[@curtismatsune3147]

No ancestor to the genus Homo needed technology to eat plants, and nether did we. We evolved to eat plants -- it's abundantly clear in our dentition and out digestive tracts, although the latter has evolved to handle a higher meat diet than our predecessors. If plants are so toxic, why are there so many herbivores? Herbivores far outnumber carnivores in both number of species and number of individuals. How did that happen if their food is poisonous? And explain bears, a family of animals in the order Carnivora.. With the exception of polar bears, they all have evolved into omnivores. If meat is so perfect and plants are so toxic, pray tell, why and how did that happen? Stop with the Carnivore Diet fanaticism. It hurts your credibility badly.

[@SteveHazel]

I can't listen ta this guy enough. That thing about fire is great. But your gf eats salads??? Whaaat??? Just givin ya a bad time. Mine does too :)

[@wendyscott8425]

When I started out on keto, I used to eat a huge salad every night (along with meat or fish and a cooked veggie). It took me half an hour just to prepare the salad, what with all the collecting, washing, tearing, cutting, and then putting everything away. Plus, I made my own salad dressing (of course). I had at least 20 different ingredients in every salad thinking I was making myself healthy since they each must have had their own set of micronutrients, right? I had to ask myself if that were true when they found (and removed) a small cancerous lesion in my bladder. I was actually glad to give up all those veggies in favor of a more or less carnivore diet (with a few berries just to keep things interesting). Perhaps your girlfriend will, too, eventually. Plus, I won't go into detail, but those salads caused me some digestive issues that were none too thrilling to live with. It was wonderful when all that stopped.

[@kylewonglee7724]

My girl could never eat a salad that means she fart extra extra

[@demoncore5342]

I love it if a date wants to split a bill. She has salad and water and me a steak and beer :)

[@mr.potatohead6138]

This is based too much on the theory of evolution, seems ridiculous to do that. Also, wouldn't fruit be the easiest choice in certain times of year?

[@oldnorth2666]

Imagine living in the ice age, fruit would be the least of your worries. I doubt much fruit would be around..

[@mr.potatohead6138]

@@oldnorth2666 as well as the other plants they talk about...

[@demoncore5342]

To be honest yes, fruit, berries and nuts in season. Plants don't tend to fight back. That black and white thinking is just dumb, like wolves eat berries and pigs kill and eat deer in the NATURE.

[@demoncore5342]

I'm sorry but that's complete BS. Just as in that joke, they call bad hunter a "vegetarian" among Bushmen.

[@SunFellow941]

Well, all these drug-addicted caffeine junkies trumpeting the health of pre-agricultural raw meat are amusing.

[@knockingseeker]

These guys never mention that where humans appeared in Africa plants were plentiful all year round. basically have built a faith based religion and perform mental gymnastics to arrive at the conclusion they want to be true and ignore any evidence contrary to their carnivore religion.

[@alxhiding]

you're a fool doing precisely what you accuse others of doing. plants have never been plentiful all year around anywhere on earth. most "wild plants" (plants we call wild) are not *their original forms*. we created these plants via selective breeding / cross breeding and in climates they can grow naturally, they germinate and spread. consider for example, bananas - which we created in 1000 years, and yet you can find them all across the planet as "wild fruit" now. their original form is insignificant in all ways compared it's current form. not enough nutrition to survive on, nor does it grow all year around in that form (it does now due to our intervention). learn a bit about agricultural and gardening. there is no faith, there is no mental gymnastics. there is no ignoring evidence, the evidence is clear, although it might make you uncomfortable if you are on the vegan side of the argument. there are no populations that have survived on purely plants. in countries where veganism is religion (like india), it's only a recent phenomenon (last 5k years~) and if you look at their longevity... it's not pretty. pull your head out and just follow the truth, not your feelings.

[@knockingseeker]

@@alxhiding do you only eat game meat? Not vegan, extremes aren’t my thing. Truth is.

[@rbt772]

Give some faith to those with opposing views. There are a lot of videos from intelligent people who upon deeper digging has found that we've been misled. Most of these same people have done the vegan diet for many years.

[@knockingseeker]

@@rbt772 I have Le the best wishes for them but they are not intelligent. Failing on the vegan diet does not mean the extreme opposite is the answer. Many people also had great results on the vegan diet and that doesn’t mean it’s optimal either. People have also failed in the carnivore diet. Most intelligent people including those that know we have been misled on many things don’t and would never subscribe to this belief. I don’t have much faith for them because they are idiots who have no commonsense sense or logic. Even these KZbin experts use reasons and points that are obviously ridiculous and many are literally disproven by studies on real people and facts such as looking at existing and recent hunter gatherer tribes diets. It sounds harsh but these idiots are a danger to other idiots who will watch and then follow at their own long term detriment.

[@rbt772]

@@knockingseeker you are pointing finger at other people saying they are not intelligent and are idiots...just because they have differing views. You are saying they are lying. Their logic is wrong and that what you know is right. Cheers.

[@petercsigo3314]

Talk about another bogus diet.