Archery | Rushed Shot Processes - Slow Down!

[@johnvanboolen7820]

This is great advice, being a new archer I tended to just throw arrows at the target and sort of hope for the best, I finally had to realise...it isn't luck ! all the competent guys have considered each shot and made adjustments over time. No where near yet but getting there slowly Love to all jv

[@jenksbirds]

Me too !! Tight groups but bullseye on occasion.

[@sebastienraymond3648]

Hunters (not all but the majority) understand this very well. Consistency and precission, because we have only "one chance" when the game is in our shooting angle. So, the fast shooting style like a "gatling-gun" is useless for us. I have nothing against those who like and practice this style howerver. Nice day to all overhere.

[@Buran01]

...O the other hand, mind is the main enemy of an archer, and the more time you spent thinking about the shoot or even "aiming" in some cases, the worse. A basketball player doesn't aim when throws the ball, neither instinctive shooters.

[@sebastienraymond3648]

@@Buran01 He does not talk about that. He speaks in the video about the consistent repeatability of your shooting sequence, to the point that it becomes "part of your body mechanics". After years of training, this is where I am. Even basketball, hockey and baseball players practice shooting. It's the same thing in martial arts with bare hands or whatever. There is no guy who knows karate on birth. Have a nice day.

[@Buran01]

@@sebastienraymond3648 I understand, but fail to see how doing something fast is a handicap as long as you do the same process every time. Is like when a coach teaches you about the ortodox form to shoot and then you see a champion that slants the head or rises a shoulder: at the end doesn't matter because He does the same every time and works for him. I see no problem in rushing through the shoot as long as you do it in the same way every time.

[@sebastienraymond3648]

@@Buran01 This is fine if you can repeat the same movement continuously, to the point of no longer thinking about it and doing it quickly. I have nothing against it, nobody has anything against it. If that's your thing, then all the better. As for utility, you will not find any. Especially not when hunting. In our modern world, hunting is the only place where we still use the bow for what it was designed: Killing. And it's useless to have on you 99+ arrows and shoot 25 on an animal that you intend to eat. :-)

[@peterxyz3541]

“You can’t take an arrow back”.....eternal wisdom

[@doc-uzziel-holiday6250]

NuSensei, thank you so much for taking the time to give an in depth explanation of the shooting process, and how aiming and correction of technique, both mental and physical, assist in consistent arrow shots, and hitting on target. I think speed shooting is also enjoyable, however, taking time to make each arrow count, is an essential lesson for beginners, as well as those intermediate, as this is a basic foundation that is important to have and to gain a working knowledge of, in order to become the best archer one can be. Again, thank you for your easy to understand instruction yet very intricate in philosophical method, in archery. Thanks.

[@MONKLJ]

As always, I enjoyed your video, I agree with your point of not rushing, take time to feel your shot, in some sense, even a bow shot like life, is a journey, . The other day while shooting, I tried to be very aware of my process, speed, and important to me also, is breathing easily, relaxing into the shot, my grouping at about 17 long paces, went like yours, rush and they were off, relax and beware, they were centered into a tighter group, I was very happy. Thanks Much !!

[@johncooper7242]

I find myself back watching this excellent video once again after struggling to find consistent form all Winter. My shot cycle seems to go out the window when shooting 25yds indoor in the Winter . Funny how you go through every conceivable possibility, when striving to find consistency. Changing bows, building new arrows ,going through your shot cycle yet don't consider possibly one of the most important influences staring you in the face .... Rushing your shots..! When sharing a target with 4-5 other Archers and having a very restrictive time slot, it is all too easy to rush ones shots and not take the time to set up properly and think about what factors influenced the result of each shot on the target..I was horrified to realise that I was loosing 6x arrows in just under 60 seconds ! Crazy... I think I might try using a mini digital timer on my bow which I can set to slow down each shot process.

[@PooMonkeyMan]

Very helpful information for those looking for this type of information. I personally know that I have some of these habits, but I sorta refuse to change because then it takes the fun and enjoyment of archery for me. I've slowed down because I'm currently overbowed from being out of practice, but nonetheless, I do intend on getting back to speed. Like Grizzly Jim says, "remember why you picked up the bow in the first place." If I'm slowing down, then I might as well put the bow down.

[@cjdonald1983]

Hello David, would you please consider making a video on setting up a plunger button? I am fairly new to archery and only recently bought one, but I feel like I am just totally guessing as far as spring tension etc. Thanks for another great video!

[@dwightyu6085]

I was also looking for this a while back. got it know tho.

[@rossmcleod7983]

A timely and much appreciated reappraisal of the shot process Nu. I’ll get a tad pretentious here, but nonetheless another form of endeavour comes to mind - “Lucidity, probity, calm and deliberation are still the chief virtues of painting” Robert Hughes

[@doc-uzziel-holiday6250]

@Ross McLeod, agreed, and archery is also such a wonderful art form.

[@brettkester1639]

My favorite new archery phrase... sight picture. Thank you for the great reminders.

[@johnhanley9946]

I do this a sometimes. I've noticed I often try to re-do a bad shot by rushing onto the next, which is often bad as well...

[@ofboriken]

Thank you Sensei. I started shooting again after a 2 month hiatus. I definitely will heed the advice. I need to focus on the shot process like you said!

[@Johann-4354]

Excellent Sensei. Thank you.

[@MrBigCookieCrumble]

This was an EXCELLENT video, i love the way you explain things this time, i watched several times to take everything in. I especially like the explenation of how a good shot should "feel like", the back tension and release have been explained to me several times at my archery club, but as a complete beginner my answer was always "What does that feel like?", ive done gymnastics and physical training before ofcourse, but the way archery uses back muscles is so unique to me that i just had no reference point what so ever!

[@HandyL]

Thank you! I need this so much right now. I am having a very hard time slowing down and don't know what or how it happened.

[@hairutheninja]

Really good video, subject is definitely brought up by many archers so its not necisarily new information, however I felt you really covered every angle of the reasoning behind it and in a pretty inclusive and understandable way that I think is beneficial to absolute beginners and even people who have been shooting for awhile. Random side note I freaking love this sport.

[@troyriser8074]

Excellent video! Just the reminder I needed.

[@jj987987987]

Your traditional archery form is improving.

[@gizmonomono]

I take notes often on points that improve my shooting. One of them I added recently is SLOW DOWN. I practice speed shooting here and there, but most of the time I shoot normally. Instinctive, but not rushed. What I've come to realize is when you focus on your back tention, you tend to shoot at a more reasonable pace. Shooting more arrows is good for practice, but not nearly as putting more focus in every shot you do. That's why I tend to shoot only 3 arrows at a time. Much more focus this way.

[@a.griffin3430]

People who shoot that fast make me very nervous, you aren’t really trying that hard, listen to Senpai!

[@dazzyd1964]

We’re allowed 2 minutes to shoot 3 arrows indoors... i find many in my club have shot all three before i’ve finished nocking my second arrow - they turn it into a race!

[@michaelmurkerson1375]

Just for reference I primarily shoot compound but have been enjoying the recurve learning experience. I have a Mandarin duck phantom now because of watching your videos.

[@MrBigCookieCrumble]

Yes, DO BE CAREFUL about T-posing too much at your archery club, it can be quite traumatic - *especially* for new people - to have someone suddenly assert their dominance over the group in such a intense fashion!

[@iCantPickaNamej]

This is EXACTLY my problem!

[@michaelmurkerson1375]

This has nothing to do with your current video but can you do a video on how to set up your sights for Olympic 70 m target? I'm talking install on recurve to final adjustment?

[@michaelmurkerson1375]

Thanks. Just digging for info.

[@LearnTrainPlay]

I'm doing a few of these things

[@Fe7Ace]

When I go out to practice I don't let myself come in until I can make a shot that is not only correct in result, but understood and felt by me in how and why it was correct. Can't just chalk up the flukes as real progress, anyone who goes out and throws arrows at a target is bound to land a few good looking ones.

[@h0tkoko]

8:43 "sight my arrow" - what does that mean and how do you do that?

[@NUSensei]

I pick a reference point to aim at with the arrow.

[@h0tkoko]

@@NUSensei do you aim using “eye to arrow tip to target point”, or “imaginary path of arrow flight using arrow shaft to target”?

[@NUSensei]

@@h0tkoko For gap shooting, it is the "arrow tip to target point".

[@cherno2232]

I also shoot fast with my recurve and horsebows and sometimes shoot about one Arrow each 8 to max 15 seconds but I aim long enuch in my opinion, I just nok my arrows faster.

[@bozzco1]

I am a barebow "instinctive" shooter. i use to shoot all my 6 by the time every one shoot 3. But i have slowed down they only have 2 arrows to shoot by the time i am done now. lol

[@space.youtube]

Be aware in the moment until through repetition and practise the moment is all you are aware of.

[@mortenjacobsen5673]

ksl shoot cycle isa great tool , also a basic anatomy lesson to avoid confusion

[@professionalrookie8771]

One thing my sensei used to say which I feel sums up exactly the point your trying to get across. We all know the saying it takes 10,000 repetitions to get good at something. He used to tell us to take our time do it slowly and correct . . . speed will eventualy come . . . No point in training yourself fast if your not performing the technique correctly 10,000 repetitions to become good at something if you do it 10,000 times wrong your just teaching your body to do it wrong. ( not his exact words but tis what he was tryna say) your better off doing things slow and correct than fast and almost correct. OUS

[@50calorie82]

What is that glove called , that you were wearing while shooting Mongolian bow ?

[@khaiyinmusic]

Hold T-pose for dominance over the shot

[@WithEachBreath]

Helpful and timely. Trying to "put it all together", so need to take more time to mentally run through the punch list before releasing. One thing about your demonstration though; your rhythm could lead a viewer to assume that your pace is the "right" pace. Even when you "slow it down", it suggests that is "slow enough". You DO verbalize to take the time to check everything, but your practiced sequence belies what you're pouring into that split second of hold.

[@BlasterKotakatik]

I used to have this problem when I first started shooting freestyle recurve without a clicker and as a beginner that led me to develop a severe target panic as I don't have a solid shot sequence. Once I started paying attention to my process and focusing solely on my form I found that my shot sequence actually smoothed out and I was achieving a higher accuracy than before (though at this point I had began using a clicker so that might have contributed on helping me fix my target panic).

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

My metal D-loop should arrive Thursday for my hybrid 55# compound (leader accessories 55#). The 70% let off even though the bow is 5# heavier draw should help me with the aim portion. All the rest,....I still need to practice. Dommo Arigotto Goziemasu sensei NU.

[@TheAegisClaw]

They soon slow down when they install a clicker...

[@ofboriken]

I'm thinking about getting one. I have that and a stabilizer to go.

[@TheAegisClaw]

@@ofboriken in all seriousness, most archers wait until they're getting good consistent results without one, for someone shooting 2-3 times a week this usually means six months to a year until they're ready for a clicker. Once you put one on, you'll go through three months of hell until you're fully accustomed to it.

[@NUSensei]

I'm more in the school of thought that you should use the clicker to develop consistent form instead of waiting a year to use it, especially if regular practice (2-3 times a week) is being done. Give it 2-3 months to see if you have issues with reaching a consistent draw length.

[@Waltham1892]

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[@a.griffin3430]

Waltham1892 only tru sensai’s have beards

[@Daffasuper]

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