Archimedean Spiral Jack

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@snoopsnet8150 8 ай бұрын

These are used in lathe chuck jaws. Work amazingly well.

@smashyrashy 8 ай бұрын

Similar yes

@r-ratedstudios3847 7 ай бұрын

u still get no pussy ever a after saying that

@seangerst6561 4 ай бұрын

Ahhh, I always wondered how it's possible to fit something so strong in something so flat, but this way it's obviously possible 😎😅

@bennyellis3512 8 ай бұрын

Fun fact: this mechanism (albeit stretched, squished and obviously with two additional jaws) is found in three jaw lathe-style chucks

@pjmillah2172 8 ай бұрын

First thing I thought of. I just finished restoring an old 3 jaw buck chuck back to life.

@mihailmilev9909 8 ай бұрын

@@pjmillah2172nice

@mihailmilev9909 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info guys

@mihailmilev9909 8 ай бұрын

8.1.10d6d

@mihailmilev9909 8 ай бұрын

@@pjmillah21721st like

@BenWard29 8 ай бұрын

Hope that one spiral tooth is heat treated- it will be carrying the entire load. It would be a better design to angle the teeth on the rack just slightly and increase the number of times the spiral engages the rack from 1 to 3. The load would be carried more evenly and less prone to failure, in my opinion.

@fusion360tutorial 8 ай бұрын

Nice Point !!! Thank you very much !!! Increase the number of times the spiral engages the rack from 1 to 3... Great Idea my friend !!! Thanks !!!

@BMW520ITURBO 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, great ideea! Except that is impossible.

@vansss_369 8 ай бұрын

@@BMW520ITURBO No disrespect but can you explain how it's impossible? The way I imagine it it seems like it could work

@BMW520ITURBO 8 ай бұрын

@@vansss_369 the smaller diameter of the inner "coils" would make them require a different rotation ratio. I guess it could be possible with a progressive spiral but i doubt it

@verteup 8 ай бұрын

That will not work. At all.

@timdavidson8191 8 ай бұрын

Everybody talking about friction nobody talking about how the entire load is on the weld of that corkscrew

@cauemarchionattiausec1754 7 ай бұрын

Not necessarily a weld if you CNC it. still the point with the most failure potential.

@justinjacobs1501 7 ай бұрын

Additional loops and or a second spiral on the other side could help distribute the weight.

@Intense_Cloud 7 ай бұрын

It'll be a bitch to turn when you have the load sitting/chocking with extreme pressure right on one point without any gear (reducers). Container landing gears are a breeze when brand new and loads are not super heavy.

@laharl2k 8 ай бұрын

I can feel the sliding friction from just watching xD

@fusion360tutorial 8 ай бұрын

❤😂❤😂❤😂❤😂❤

@ВладимирСухов-ш7л 9 ай бұрын

Интересная кинематика. За оригинальность - 5. Для преобразования вращающегося движения в поступательное без большой нагрузки - вполне работоспособная конструкция. Для домкрата как тяговая передача не годится, но как страховка от падения - вполне.

@novaorbitdragon 10 ай бұрын

Calm down guys its just a concept

@robertlitman2661 9 ай бұрын

Not remotely “just a concept”. This is how three jaw lathe chucks work, except that the spiral pushes three, or even sometimes six jaws at once.

@MadScientist267 8 ай бұрын

@@robertlitman2661And that's an entirely different use case. 🤦‍♂️

@JaenEngineering 8 ай бұрын

@@MadScientist267it maybe a different use case, but if you've ever seen a lathe in operation, especially a large one, it could well be argued a much more severe one given the forces involved.

@MadScientist267 8 ай бұрын

@@JaenEngineering The key differences are in how things are supported. In the lathe, the forces are all working together (they are balanced out equally by the other jaws). In this, there's almost no support for the spiral and all of the forces are more or less in one spot. They don't compare even tho at a glance it looks like it should be the same thing.

@Александр-с7я4ъ 4 ай бұрын

Как инженер скажу- нагрузка на передаточное число огромная, просто!!!

@hassleoffa 8 ай бұрын

High friction under load ... which is exactly what you want in clamping and holding operations.

@Radatttzzz 6 ай бұрын

I am completely addicted to these mechanisms videos

@ИннокентийДмитриев-с8м 9 ай бұрын

Это регулируемая стойка для удержания тяжести или опалубки. Никакой не подьемник

@xxizcrilexlxx1505 8 ай бұрын

@Marian-yb1og SHUT THE F*CK UP UN ARE THE REASON MEN SIN

@neepsmcfly4176 7 ай бұрын

So, if we never stole we'd never die? And so, as immortals, we wouldn't need Jesus help, right? These fairy tales never get old.

@neepsmcfly4176 7 ай бұрын

@Marian-yb1ogah! I get it now! You're a bot sent by satán. Cool, continue making irrelevant statements in comment sections.

@agl3083 5 ай бұрын

@Marian-yb1og ... эта фрагмент детской сказки ??? Кто автор, Ханс Христиан Андерсен ??? 😮 ✍️🏻🤔

@agl3083 5 ай бұрын

@Marian-yb1og Oh my God kzbin.infouStdiiZ_KKY?si=wqVPfH4g6A2obnJs 😮

@RegisMichelLeclerc 10 ай бұрын

The problem is not the friction, you could put bearing on the teeth to alleviate that... But for the wight at the contact points on the spiral, you're gonna have severe deformation problems. Titanium, maybe?

@mihailmilev9909 8 ай бұрын

oh right

@mihailmilev9909 8 ай бұрын

Oh right

@mihailmilev9909 8 ай бұрын

7th like 1mo ago

@mihailmilev9909 8 ай бұрын

Nice channel, and is that you in ur pfp? At first I was gonna say "nice face lol

@blaphtome9382 8 ай бұрын

That's a good idea, spend a shit ton more money for a metal that is weaker and harder to process than most common steel alloys.

@Шмель-т9л 10 ай бұрын

Вы подумали домкрат, а нет никуя это регулируемая стойка, тобишь тяжесть не поднимает а статично удерживает

@rymaiser 10 ай бұрын

Для такой задачи я бы согласился. Идеальный вариант что бы не просовывать кусок арматуры между отверстями.

@yuranikishin7314 9 ай бұрын

@@rymaiser но кусок арматуры как то надежнее этой крутилки.🤔

@rymaiser 9 ай бұрын

@@yuranikishin7314 просто с арматурой. Иногда отверстия не позволяют идеально зафиксировать. То немного нехватает по высоте. То следующи звено наоборот превышает потолок

@ВладимирСухов-ш7л 9 ай бұрын

С таким применением полностью согласен. Если спираль выточить из цельной болванки, а не приваривать полосу и гребенку штока сделать прямоугольного профиля, получится вполне надежная самотормозящаяся конструкция.

@madmike9530 8 ай бұрын

It says its a jack in the video.

@josephsilas9472 9 ай бұрын

good jack construction

@josephsilas9472 9 ай бұрын

it can lift up and down with the hand

@maxs.3238 8 ай бұрын

They said I could never reach my goal of getting a body like a Greek statue... But I went to the gym and got archimedan jacked

@Drekromancer 7 ай бұрын

Goated comment

@alanhurdle3949 7 ай бұрын

That is what I needed to see thanks

@fusion360tutorial 7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much !!

@erikreber3695 7 ай бұрын

Why can't I stop watching on loop?

@jyvben1520 7 ай бұрын

are you still watching ?

@pavesomsk908 10 ай бұрын

that is actually high friction under load

@fusion360tutorial 10 ай бұрын

Correct 👍🏽

@PBCH93 10 ай бұрын

Добавь смазку и соответствующий материал

@PatricioGonzalezCabrera 10 ай бұрын

What about something like bearing

@sn6648 10 ай бұрын

@@PBCH93 смазку себе в задницу намаж, трение будет меньше🎉

@robguyatt9602 10 ай бұрын

It's no different from a low helix worm reducer. They run continuously in industrial applications for years with just good lubrication. Also no different to a power screw.

@brunopuccio5116 10 ай бұрын

Pido sugerdncias, la manija esta en el aire quiere decir que necezita un eje y un rodamiento para sostenerla y al tener un solo punto de apoyo habria flexion lo que llevaria a un rapido desgaste. Tambien no se exploca el mecanio de freno paete que simplemente por fricion.

@AJIEKCAHDP_CEPrEEBI14 8 ай бұрын

Это всего лишь регулируемая опора, а не домкрат.

@brunopuccio5116 8 ай бұрын

Esimado, si te das cuenta el disco esta inclinado y cuando se activa el freno este se pone paralelo al eje, prodiendose dos contantos que permiten el ajuste. No tengo idea como el freno cambia la posicion del disco.@@AJIEKCAHDP_CEPrEEBI14

@bhalchandradatar2788 10 ай бұрын

Very nice..easy to explain to engineering students

@Engineeringchannel-ro3sf 4 ай бұрын

Great job 👏

@theybrokemywatch 8 ай бұрын

I’m in love

@garymericano 8 ай бұрын

This gives me confidence when i rig something together last minute that barely works that even great men like Archimedes were also absolute idiots.

@Askorrr 10 ай бұрын

Он вдохновился машинкой для закатывании крышек

@remihein4452 8 ай бұрын

Genius invention!

@marchess923 8 ай бұрын

Clever. The simplest ideas are often the most ingenious w/ out all the computer junk. As far as friction & effort, a lower rack & spiral gear ratio. Or finer threads but necessarily thinner material. Its also smoother to run.

@tsm688 7 ай бұрын

That will not actually reduce the friction though, just make the teeth smaller and weaker. It will make it a little easier to crank, but only a little.

@edwardarkwright7116 9 ай бұрын

People talking about force and leverage forget the leverage of the spiral is based on its eccentric. This is to say the closer to a perfect circle the spiral gear is the greater its leverage. Same as a wedge, the sharper the angle the easier it drives in. Make the spiral gear larger to accommodate a shallow angle of thread the leverage is really good

@fusion360tutorial 9 ай бұрын

Nice Point !

@jamesfair9751 8 ай бұрын

Works good as a stand for trailers when you park and unhook !!

@leepaoxiong7738 9 ай бұрын

That's veregood jack!!

@DediHardiat-w5u 5 ай бұрын

Thank you ☕☕

@Tropicalianoaff 8 ай бұрын

Beautiful

@Engineeringandstuff353 10 ай бұрын

Cool concept but it would get jammed up from friction after lots of use.

@M0butu 8 ай бұрын

It's not for lifting objects. You put it under stress AFTER it reached its position. btw I would use it extending downward, not upward.

@Engineeringandstuff353 8 ай бұрын

@@M0butu True, true I would use it for lowering things rather than raising things.

@Engineeringandstuff353 7 ай бұрын

But. The animation shows it being g used upwards. I mean it is only a concept not a real working design.

@sniper2349 8 ай бұрын

An interesting alternative to a worm gear. I could see this being useful.

@sergeisemenovR 10 ай бұрын

Идея очень хорошая. Надо использовать обычный шестеренчатый механизм, а этот чтоб был в качестве страховки, совместить 2 механизма.

@Tony_Montana1 10 ай бұрын

это таже червячная пара только её самое бестолковое исполнение, под нагрузкой не провернёшь и нагрузку хорошую она не выдержит

@2008.. 10 ай бұрын

@@Tony_Montana1 Нагрузка на рукоятке .будет зависеть от шага резьбы. Можно в зацепление одновременно много витков запустить. Спираль по сути винтовой клин.

@ЁжОхНах 10 ай бұрын

@@Tony_Montana1плохому танцору вечно яйца мешают😂😂😂😂😂

@ЁжОхНах 10 ай бұрын

Тебе медицинскую 😷 страховку надо😂😂😂😂😂

@Tony_Montana1 10 ай бұрын

@@ЁжОхНах смотри чтоб эта штука твои яйца не намотала

@robertdariofernandez 4 ай бұрын

❤#electrónicatop ❤

@elviragorbunova9611 10 ай бұрын

Ещё бы в месте , где наибольшая нагрузка при скольжении поставить роликовые опоры. Иначе со временем материал просто сотрётся

@Tony_Montana1 10 ай бұрын

там трение такое, что не провернёшь под нагрузкой и даже ролики не спасут сломаются на раз

@2008.. 10 ай бұрын

@@Tony_Montana1 Как будто червячная передача в лучших условиях работает. Смазки побольше.

@ЁжОхНах 10 ай бұрын

@@Tony_Montana1берём шмат сало отрезаем кусочек , налеваем 50 грамм горилки , выпиваем , закусываем , и ложимся спать 😴

@Tony_Montana1 10 ай бұрын

@@2008.. в лучших

@ЁжОхНах 10 ай бұрын

Ты себе ролики поставь , А то сотрётся🎉❤😂 Эльвирочка !!!

@user-bf9qj3im7j 8 ай бұрын

Friction is not a problem as you would want a jack to be self holding. However, I do see an issue with the changing radius of the spiral not matching the rack gear tooth profile.

@fusion360tutorial 8 ай бұрын

Nice point my friend 👍🏽

@JaenEngineering 8 ай бұрын

Look at how the scrolls in a lathe chuck run against the chuck jaws for a solution.

@manuelolivero7741 8 ай бұрын

Why we dont have groups were we can discuss things like this? The is no telegram chat or reddit?

@tsm688 7 ай бұрын

@@manuelolivero7741 the internet used to be full of forums until people got bored of them all and left for facebook. now people ask why there's no such thing like this anymore but they're the reason

@mechanicaldesignB 4 ай бұрын

Great 👍

@eddiemanuelitonavarro2622 4 ай бұрын

Usually employed as mmechanical jact at most dry dock for boats

@g45h96 7 ай бұрын

There are only a few shaders I know of that have colored lights (it involves overriding the base lightmap system for minecraft and is usually pretty intense). Sues, rethinking voxels, and shimmer are the big ones I remember off the top. You'll probably have to do some texture work to make sure your pbr maps are correct, as well as emissivity and color.

@nootypenguino 7 ай бұрын

Nice

@Пентан 6 ай бұрын

КПД на уровне палки-копалки.

@dragons_advocate 7 ай бұрын

I love how it is mounted with wishes and invisible chewing gum

@ZhmiKnopa 7 ай бұрын

I think about that one tooth every time I work under my truck

@Cee1019 8 ай бұрын

Replace the teeth with pegs, add standard ball bearing in race to ride the spiral

@bangsukma1 8 ай бұрын

ide yang briliant tapi sayangnya terlalu banyak gesekan dan pengoprasian akan sangat berat

@fusion360tutorial 8 ай бұрын

Thank you very much !!!

@ibrahimseeser4427 9 ай бұрын

The biggest challenge is the friction

@Сергей-г8о5к 9 ай бұрын

Задумка вроде бы интересная но дай нагрузку 200 кг и ты ручку Не проверяешь потому что механизм под нагрузкой трение сумасшедшая

@AvtarSingh-fz2ui 7 ай бұрын

Vary good porjact

@pedroposada9898 9 ай бұрын

Excelente ❤

@fusion360tutorial 9 ай бұрын

Obrigado 🙌

@antoniog.g256 7 ай бұрын

Genius

@tuskiomisham 7 ай бұрын

The radius of the teeth (assuming that they're properly machined) must match the largest radius of the spiral, meaning that there will be a little jostle every time the sprial catches on the end..

@tsm688 7 ай бұрын

why can't they overlap?

@bramhagyani5018 10 ай бұрын

😮 Good, just like 4 jaw chuck in lathe.

@PBCH93 10 ай бұрын

Сомневаюсь я в этой конструкции без смазки, у меня на ниве домкрат на похожей схеме уже 14 лет работает

@toninotag6422 8 ай бұрын

Todavía me acuerdo , el bmw antiguo tenía una gata así . Solo me acuerdo que tenía un maletero bien grande cabían cuatro personas . No disculpe la que tenía era gata hidráulica tipo tijera la que contenía .

@marcelogalvaodemoura8963 7 ай бұрын

The system actually works in practice with casters in place of gears or teeth.

@AlonsoSepulveda-j2j 10 ай бұрын

Always it need good lubrication But ... useful.

@knuckle12356 7 ай бұрын

Eureka! Now i can work on my truck inside my own garage. - Archimedes, ostensibly.

@jyvben1520 7 ай бұрын

and drive of the Parthenon cliff

@ALehrer-s8f 7 ай бұрын

groovy music!

@thkyou85 10 ай бұрын

Carboly does well with friction and heat

@vicpiston360 8 ай бұрын

Add Bearing and a ratcheting mechanism 👌🏽

@ryzenryne8747 8 ай бұрын

It looks great until you put a LOT of weight on top of it that it gets stuck.

@RenanDavidSoriaAhumada 7 ай бұрын

the quality of the metal of the screw could be a danger

@sdsfgsty 10 ай бұрын

The teeth have to touch the spiral crank at top and botom if they are parallel in y axis. Here, it shows the pieces connect only on top.

@ShuRugal 8 ай бұрын

The screw plate appears to be set at a slight angle so that only the top edge is in the tooth track. It would actually perform better if configured as you describe, though. Twice as much surface area to spread the load on. Even better, give the spiral plate 3 or 4 concentric spiral tracks.

@RickWilliamsPlus 8 ай бұрын

@ShuRugal no, it world not work at all! The spiral at the top and bottom move away from each other

@ShuRugal 8 ай бұрын

@@RickWilliamsPlus hush with your "making sense"

@uiopuiop3472 7 ай бұрын

this makes me feel like god!

@coreyfro 7 ай бұрын

I have a 150 year old sausage press with this gear sustem

@fusion360tutorial 7 ай бұрын

Amazing !!!

@coreyfro 7 ай бұрын

@@fusion360tutorial look up "two quart enterprise sausage press" I own one but because it is rare as compared to its 8 quart version (using screws, instead) I only have the 2qt because *ahem* it is TOO QU-TEEEEE!

@ridakoki7109 5 ай бұрын

لقد صنعت نفس الآلية منذ سنة وقبل رأيتها الأن في هاذا الفيديو ❤

@Janggut40 9 ай бұрын

Need grease every use😊

@hanko456 9 ай бұрын

Pero que soporta la spiral Para sostener.la manivela

@tpeter4240 8 ай бұрын

I’m convinced nobody in the comments have ever seen a jack stand

@gacor9977 4 ай бұрын

NICEEE

@brunopuccio5116 10 ай бұрын

Seria mas caro que el convencional por el material y tratamiento para resistir el desgaste por friccion y calentamiento. Pero es alucinante.

@yanmaicolperezaraujo1354 10 ай бұрын

Aparte de que por no ser hidráulico se habría que hacer una gran fuerza a la palanca para poder elevar lo adyacente.

@brunopuccio5116 10 ай бұрын

Puede ser usado como una herramienta de ajuste y precision, donde la fuerza no es lo relevante @@yanmaicolperezaraujo1354

@Danimorera65 10 ай бұрын

I guess the effectiveness of this is dependent on the type of material used to make the helix, and the weight of whatever it is lifting. If that is used to lift anything heavy, the weight/pressure of the tooth on any section of the helix strip could be excessive enough to either make it hard to turn or break it altogether. 🤔 Though if it used for moving light weight objects then in theory it looks sound?

@m.agilnajib345 9 ай бұрын

Dude... like... you can use your comment on ANY mechanical device. Not just the one in the short. Thats why mechanical devices are tested and usually come with load ratings. Its all good up to a point.

@BrandonDickenson35 9 ай бұрын

It's all good,so long as it don't break down😂

@clauslangenbroek9897 8 ай бұрын

@m.agilnajib345 I guess OC was typing in reference to all those friction comments here condemning the design.

@tsm688 7 ай бұрын

@@m.agilnajib345 not really. this is a worm gear, which is infamous for having high static friction at all times. gears or hydraulic mechanisms avoid this by using swiveling instead of sliding contacts

@АлександрПрытков-ж6н 10 ай бұрын

А задействовать еще один виток для прочности?

@Blejk_Karington 9 ай бұрын

😂 good it's some like lathe chuck mechanism

@haweater1555 7 ай бұрын

This is how the gate is cranked open on some makes of gravity grain boxes.

@raymondraptorclaw2901 8 ай бұрын

I can’t help but notice that blue lever. You might need something stronger than that if this is supposed to be a Jack.

@fusion360tutorial 8 ай бұрын

Nice point ! Thank you very much !! It's just an Idea of a Jack using the Archimedean Spiral.

@acmefixer1 8 ай бұрын

Some said too much friction. There is only a single tooth making contact and pushing the shaft up. A lot of stress and possibly breaking. Instead I would change the shaft to a screw thread, with a crank handle driving a nut.

@giangdiep4077 10 ай бұрын

Nice❤❤❤

@MONKEYGUY8504 10 ай бұрын

Kind of like a worm gear that you can crank.

@User198-rh8gf 8 ай бұрын

Как поддерживающая стойка пойдет. Как домкрат-фиг провернешь под весом машины или агрегата. Очень большое трение в механизме. Даже если сделать на рейке вставки из бронзы, все равно фиг провернешь.

@Musclecarera69 10 ай бұрын

Every one is talking about friction, nobody is talking about clearance for the handle. That would be your leverage but if it’s close to the ground you’ll lose all mechanical advantages.

@onquarter 8 ай бұрын

You could put it at end end of a long jointed rod like a typical scissor jack does.

@tsm688 7 ай бұрын

make it a double handle then

@Русскийимперец-ж6ы 10 ай бұрын

Представляю, как быстро изнашивается этот механизм.

@kevingeorge1539 8 ай бұрын

What’s a jack with out hydronic assistance to much man power is required

@ВикторАнатольевич-л1э 8 ай бұрын

Архимед класный был поцан жаль менты завалили! А сколько ещё мог придумать крутых и полезных вещей!!!!!!!

@paulwright8378 8 ай бұрын

And when you go down it's gunna fall onto that spiral breaking it 😂

@vukkumsp 7 ай бұрын

Looks like a good design But, what about friction between the spiral and the red lever.

@АлександрАксенов-к7ъ 10 ай бұрын

Так это закрывашка для банок стеклянных....

@channappagoudapatil3869 6 ай бұрын

Modles and price

@josephwheeler1 8 ай бұрын

More than friction, I'd be worried about the stress underload. Pressing the 2 pieces away from each other. Make them both flat and then it probably won't be a problem..

@josephwheeler1 8 ай бұрын

To clarify, that is an expected failure mode that can be designed for. It will always happen, just at different loads depending on the design.

@Slash1066 9 ай бұрын

As an axle stand it's ideal

@TheCultofshiva 8 ай бұрын

Isn't the point of the original device that the gear configuration multiplies the force you put onto it ? Like this it just raises the jack but doesn't amplify the force. It could work in a production machine of some sort though... It's mesmerizing to look at too...