Arctic Cat Adapt clutch DIY install on 16'-22' Cat sleds.

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Mountain Sledder Garage

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@thenickolaso
@thenickolaso Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the fast reply really looking forward to doing this great channel!
@MarcelCuthbert
@MarcelCuthbert 10 ай бұрын
Top notch tutorial
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@rotaxrules100
@rotaxrules100 Жыл бұрын
Secondary bolts needs to be torqued with out a belt otherwise it can come loose Seen it happen before
@richoutdoors8962
@richoutdoors8962 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. This new primary clutch from Arctic Cat is supposed to be amazing. Can’t wait to ride my brand new TCAT.
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, guys who have swapped out the team for the adapt say it runs much better with the adapt
@bcbrando7678
@bcbrando7678 2 жыл бұрын
Very good specific info for cat guys love the channel!
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ponycarfan
@ponycarfan 2 жыл бұрын
Very good info. This is on my list for the Riot this fall.
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
Just wish the Adapt wasn’t so expensive
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
Just wish the Adapt wasn’t so expensive
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
Just wish the Adapt wasn’t so expensive
@johnrafferty5266
@johnrafferty5266 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work I like this mod plus less rotating weight
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@PaulCTownsend
@PaulCTownsend 2 жыл бұрын
Nice I take it the long side goes in towards the center of the clutch.
@Rational_Party
@Rational_Party 17 күн бұрын
Great vid. I have a 2017 MC and a 2018 M6000 that will both need this upgrade eventually. The 933 clutch mentioned in this vid has been replaced by the 0746-965 clutch which is less than $400. Any thoughts on spring/weight, as the Adapt clutch uses a spring with a softer initial rate and I think slightly lighter weights comparably... ??
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 17 күн бұрын
Spring rates can really vary depending on the rider and what weights you use. If you have a spring, I would start with it and see how it performs. Then choose a spring with a rate tailored to your needs.
@Rational_Party
@Rational_Party 17 күн бұрын
@@mountainsleddergarage8627 Mostly interested in weights as the clutch comes with a spring but it's different than the Team clutch spring specs... Have to guess on weights based on newer sleds. Difficult because no m6000 exists in Adapt years, and Suzuki 800 does not like lugging at all from my experience, so setups for CTEC 800 may not be ideal... How did your 2016 sled work out weight wise?
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 17 күн бұрын
We ride at 8-10,000 feet here. I decent starting weight for an 800 is a 56g or 58g.
@coreylawrence-o4q
@coreylawrence-o4q 9 ай бұрын
Will this setup working on my 2018 thundercat ZR9000 998turbo?
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 9 ай бұрын
Yes, you can put an adapt clutch on your 18’ zr 9000. Make sure you get an adapt clutch from a current 998, I believe the crank taper on the 2-strokes is different.
@johnbarnard6983
@johnbarnard6983 9 ай бұрын
Are you not installing the damper ring on the new adpative clutch? I thought it was recommended even on the new adaptive clutch. Thank you for all your great videos!
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 9 ай бұрын
That is the question of the century. Cat has had that ring on there for many years. People have been taking them off for many years without any issues. If I’m building a lightweight sled I’ll take it off, otherwise I don’t go to the trouble of removing it. The clutch in the video was brand new out of the box and don’t come with the ring.
@johnbarnard6983
@johnbarnard6983 9 ай бұрын
Thank you! I know it serves a purpose if you have an electric start on your machine as the ring is required, but I didn't see the reason behind the damper ring unless it was for some clutch weight thing. I didn't want to not install it on my new adaptive clutch if I was going to mess something up by omitting it. Glad to hear you didn't install it and have not had any issues. Thanks again!
@tayloringram9809
@tayloringram9809 17 күн бұрын
I have a 2016 ZR 9000 with a cracked primary clutch, trying to find the right one for my sled. I see the clutch for the 6000, 8000 are compatible with the 2016 sleds but the 9000 is listed as a 2017 and on replacement, I'm about to call country cat and see what's going on with that assuming they know anything. Any feed back would be great.
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 17 күн бұрын
I believe the 9000 uses the 30mm taper clutch. The 2-strokes use the 33mm taper clutches.
@Pungy002
@Pungy002 11 ай бұрын
Great information.
@DeanRabas
@DeanRabas 2 жыл бұрын
I am just doing the adapt upgrade now to a 2016 zr8000 snow pro. Here is what I have a question on. It looks like the 2016 clutch bolt (2623-180, 152mm long) is different than the 2022 bolt (1623-792, 157mm long) which is actually the bolt used on the arctic cat clutches (2014). The 2023 bolt (2623-308, 132mm long). I believe the small spacer/washer is 5mm. So if I figured this right Arctic cat wants a 127mm for length from the end of spacer to go into the crank. With the set of the team bolt and spacer from 2022 you are at 122mm so basically 5mm short which since you have been doing this apparently is fine. If want to get to 127mm deep with spacer you would need to take 5mm off of length. Stock spacer is 30mm long. If you want to make your own spacer they are 20mm OD x 30mm long (25mm if want same depth) with clearance hole for 12mm bolt. Thanks.
@stevetrepanier4351
@stevetrepanier4351 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thank you. I have a very old cat but thinking of upgrading. One thing I don't understand: can you describe how the auto tension feature works? to me it looks like the secondary bolt you removed would normally act like stop for how tight it can close, and when you remove it the spring just applies constant pressure to the belt and the sheves force the belt up higher on the secondary, makign it tighter. This is only possible due to the idler on the primary; so the belt won't overheat. I haven't found a description of how it works. Does that make sense?
@garpathen100
@garpathen100 6 күн бұрын
I’ve put a a PB 80 on a 17 m8. Cvteck says plug and play. Any thoughts on this thx
@jonathengattenby1113
@jonathengattenby1113 Ай бұрын
Where is the video on putting one on the 14 and 15 sleds
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 17 күн бұрын
Sorry, haven’t made a video on that. I do t have access to a 12-15 proclimb.
@AkSnowriders
@AkSnowriders Жыл бұрын
I am gonna do same setup on my 16 for next yr
@98xjroks
@98xjroks Жыл бұрын
Do you know if the Adapt Clutch can be shimmed for optimum belt the sheave clearance? Ironically, both of mine are closer to .050 than the desired .020
@edlonglad3230
@edlonglad3230 Жыл бұрын
Excellent channel. Can these be installed on pre 16 sleds? I have a 14 1100 turbo with the older clutch. Keep up the great content!
@LaneGiesler-KL5PK
@LaneGiesler-KL5PK Жыл бұрын
35mm taper and not flat on the back of it. So no won't work unfortunately
@jakerose3389
@jakerose3389 2 жыл бұрын
Can you explain the additional things that would need to be done on a 2012 f800. Looking at getting the adapt for my sled. Currently have the big fin secondary.
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
You would need to make sure the primary and secondary are aligned perfectly. You will also need a longer belt
@bennyb6071
@bennyb6071 Жыл бұрын
excellent teacher
@thenickolaso
@thenickolaso Жыл бұрын
What is needed to install this clutch on a 2013 xf800 procross? In detail? Really interested in getting one after watching your awesome video looks like it’s going to be a great clutch!
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 Жыл бұрын
If you want to also update the secondary clutch to the Team clutch you’ll need a new jackshaft. You can you the stock 13’ secondary. You’ll need to align the clutches like the 19’ and newer alpha. Look it up in the service manual for like a 22’ alpha. You’ll use the secondary shim washers for your year to space the secondary clutch on the shaft. (#26 in the parts diagram) You’ll need to use the belt deflection shims in your secondary (part #29 in diagram) so the belt is tight at rest and rides high up in the secondary, like a new alpha. Link to parts diagram www.countrycat.com/arctic-cat-parts/#/Arctic_Cat/2013_XF_800_SNO_PRO_LTD_BLACK_%5bS2013XFHLEUSB%5d/DRIVE_TRAIN_SHAFTS_AND_BRAKE_ASSEMBLIES_%5b96878%5d/S2013XFHLEUSB/96878/y
@thenickolaso
@thenickolaso Жыл бұрын
Is there any belt changes you know of that will need to be done with the stock driven ? Also I was thinking of updating it to the team, Looked into it seen i needed the jack shaft and a oversized bearing in the chain case? Does it affect my sprocket or is it the same diameter splines and just a bigger bearing surface on the shaft? I understand I’m asking a lot but every piece of information helps !
@Bignardo18
@Bignardo18 10 ай бұрын
Can i use the adapt front clutch on my 16zr9000 ?
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 10 ай бұрын
I’m not 100% in the know on that. Is the 16’ 9000 still the cat 1100 turbo motor, is it the Yamaha motor?
@RoboDriller
@RoboDriller Жыл бұрын
What are you using to hold the spare belt on the belt gaurd on the 18 mc @ 12:09
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 Жыл бұрын
Velcro straps. Arctic sells them for this. I bought mine on amazon.
@jeffwiedemann6339
@jeffwiedemann6339 2 жыл бұрын
Can you put a adapt clutch on a 15 zr6000rr
@mariodacunto9298
@mariodacunto9298 2 жыл бұрын
Question, so remove the adjust bolt? It will self adjust??
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a 16 or 17’ and put on an Adapt clutch, yes remove the adjustment screw and nut on the secondary and it will self adjust belt deflection. On the 16-17 you’ll also want to use the longer belt. Cat part number 0627-111
@mikeblake4026
@mikeblake4026 2 жыл бұрын
On the 16&17 what belt do you use
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
You want a belt that will ride up about a 1/8 above the secondary at rest. Honestly your stock belt will work but not ideally because it’s not long enough to ride that high. Probably want the use the 18+ belt that came on the zero belt deflection clutches. 627-111 belt
@z06vette10
@z06vette10 2 жыл бұрын
Will the adapt clutch work on a 16 ZR 7000?
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the 4-stroke motor has a different taper on the crankshaft
@samergitani9261
@samergitani9261 2 жыл бұрын
No need for balance gear? If yes where it can be found?
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the question on the century. Guys have been asking that question and taking it off for as long as Cat has been putting the plate on there. At least 10+ years. I’ve never seen a legit answer to the question. No one that I have ever seen has ever had a problem because of removing it and saving the weight.
@98xjroks
@98xjroks 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I’m in the process of converting my 17 & 18 over to the Adapt. Which weights did you install in this video; 58g or 60g? Also, are you running the balancing gear on either machine?
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
Weights are dependent on your riding altitude. Here in utah guys are using either 56 or 58 cat weights.
@98xjroks
@98xjroks 2 жыл бұрын
I’m also in Utah. I’ll do some digging to find out which is best between the two. Thanks again, I enjoy your videos.
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
The Edge Powersports says they have guys using 56 & 58’s here in utah. Have you already bought your adapt? I have a brand new one in the box set up with 58 grams weights if you need a whole clutch.
@fasterdura1772
@fasterdura1772 2 жыл бұрын
Very though rule for the beginner riders
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, try to make very simple to understand
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, try to explain things so the beginner garage mechanic to do their own work without problems
@ACatKrom
@ACatKrom 21 күн бұрын
Terrible advice. You will end up destroying the secondary by trying to assemble it with the belt in place. It gives false torque readings It shaves aluminum from the splines. Both cause the outer sheave to spin on the shaft and back the bolt out It will leave you stranded with a stripped clutch, and sled that doesn't move
@billmichalchuk5453
@billmichalchuk5453 Жыл бұрын
Cat sucks all the way ,no customer service, buy a 20,000 sled , no one can fix , and they Don give a shit
@mountainsleddergarage8627
@mountainsleddergarage8627 Жыл бұрын
What can’t they fix?
@glenmaga87
@glenmaga87 Жыл бұрын
Been cat for 45 years now fed up . Have a 11 m8 and cant buy a secondary clutch . Now this is only a play around sled for me but there will plenty of people still wanting to use these and now they all out of luck terrible terrible.
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