Arctic Methane. Has 2020 triggered a tipping point?

The summer of 2020 saw record breaking heatwaves across the Arctic region resulting in the lowest ever recorded October sea ice levels. Those persistently warm temperatures also caused the thawing of permafrost and sediment on the seabed allowing the release of very high concentrations of methane - in some cases up to 400 times normal levels. So, have we now reached the long anticipated tipping point?
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[@KeepItSimpleSailor]

It’s not 2020 that is a shitstorm, it’s the decade of the 2020s. Get ready for one helluva ride, because we have barely rolled off the start ramp.

[@Deebz270]

Well said shipmate.

[@webformssuck]

Rolled of the cliff, yep.

[@greatwhitenorth762]

LOL, yeah ok buddy, whatever you say. What flavor is your kool-aid?

[@joefogle4874]

@@greatwhitenorth762 OMG not Kool-aid!!

[@greatwhitenorth762]

@Tom Drake LOL. baaaaa

[@oneworld1563]

Never have such alarming news been delivered so calmly.

[@VH-eq2ci]

Ha ha. This is not new news. 🤣🤣🤣

[@greatwhitenorth762]

Never have i seen so many brainwashed lemmings all in one place at the same time.

[@antonycanova52]

That's the way I like it. 👍 Calm, serious, sober, factual. Too many commentators on this subject are either inappropriately cheerful or embarrassingly melodramatic. Keep a stiff upper lip when you're delivering bad news, please.

[@ChiefCabioch]

These people have been lying so much, and so long, it's become second nature, they can lie straight faced to you, and won't miss a beat....and you guys think as long as they can remain calm, it adds to the reality, but a lie is still a lie, it's bullshit, and they know it, but you don't, these people are growing you like a mushroom, keeping you in the dark and feeding you shit......the masters of deception

[@herbayum76]

@@ChiefCabioch but what if they are right? We are now in late august 2021 and you still are convinced nothing is going on... You are the frog sitting in the water heating slowly to boiling point...

[@redreuben5260]

“Men get wisdom when they have exhausted all the alternatives”

[@matthewmccarter3284]

I'm 63yrs old so I suspect I'll be dead before the worst effects are experienced, but the human race is pathetic. Faced with total disaster we're more concerned with losing " money" than our descendants.

[@peNdantry]

Can I interest you in my ongoing campaign to rename 'homo sapiens sapiens' to 'homo fatuus brutus'?

[@lancerebo952]

Don’t be so sure you won’t be around to experience the suffering. We will start feeling the effects long before things reach their peaks

[@susanbrown2909]

The government keep putting off action....don’t get me started about people who put their heads in the sand,and deny. We are leaving it too late ...we are doomed. We can’t keep adapting to severe weather patterns. We got to tackle root causes,before it’s is too late.

[@jean-pierredevent970]

Capitalism is the untouchable holy cow but agreed that communism is not having many friends. Still only the Chinese are and will be able to handle just about anything.

[@onewordhereonewordthere6975]

@@susanbrown2909 it's already One World Government. Korea Iran Israel agree on everything when it becomes climate change Antarctica The Who .🤔 How ? Why is it that no one brings up the fact that our governments are manipulating the weather ? Private companies such as California power have the ability and are doing it 2. Either they're bad at it , and need to be stopped ,or they're good at it ! 🧐 we'll never see a report card . Has the government ever lied ? Weapons of mas😷 destruction ! How many people have died for that lie ? Or was it a lie ? No it wasn't . During the Iraq Iran War we were on Iraq's side . Saddam's buddy , I wonder why we couldn't find what we helped build . I bet we blew it up in Fallujah . They're still killing people over there now because of this . we should be ashamed. The Boy Who Cried Wolf , is the wolf 🐺 😢!

[@robertopinna220]

Listening to you is very pleasant and clear to understand. Keep on making this videos ;)

[@JustHaveaThink]

Thank you! Will do!

[@SamuelBlackMetalRider]

Pleasant & spooky at the same time... truth hurts sometimes

[@achenarmyst2156]

Pleasant 🤔

[@ScaryHairyHarry]

Pleasant? You might not have understood the message of the video. 🤔

[@robertopinna220]

@@ScaryHairyHarry pleasant is the way he explain things, not the topic itself which of course is very concerning, at least

[@kurohikes5857]

We have been warned about this forever and no one listens... Everyone says maybe it'll be a problem in the future... When the future arrives everyone will cry "faster than expected"

[@andreiarama8745]

Don't worry Bill Gates is working on it

[@dave8599]

no problem Al Gore told us we would have flooded coastal cities and no ice pack left by now. All lies from the global warmimg scam.

[@danielstan2301]

there is a solution to slow down this process: heat your homes using natural gas from siberia :D. This will release CO2 and water instead of methan gas which is 27 less potent and watter will produce clouds which will reflect some sun light!

[@kurohikes5857]

@@dave8599 al gore is an idiot... that doesn’t negate the fact climate change is real.

[@peNdantry]

"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Professor Albert Bartlett

[@unreliablememory9687]

Reading the comments posted here, my only possible conclusion is that we haven't earned the right to survive.

[@penguinuprighter6231]

It is the definition of pathetic.

[@veneering4128]

Nice way to shift the blame from white colonizers, who are the genocidal maniacs that singlehandedly caused climate change(america, Europe, china) onto the rest of the world who are innocent and comparably didn't contribute shit in carbon emissions. Why do they also deserve to die just because our capitalist dictatorships are greedy murder machines? Plenty of peoples never contributed to capitalism

[@greatwhitenorth762]

@@veneering4128 LOLOLOLOL. wack job.

[@greatwhitenorth762]

the sky is falling, the sky is falling. LOL.

[@herbayum76]

@@veneering4128 wouldnt they if they could...keep dreaming

[@wedgewizard5429]

Update from 2021, record heatwave in Siberia, where there is a bunch of methane under the permafrost. Edit: I forgot to mention, Siberia is on fire.

[@jeffcampbell1555]

I've been dreading this since the first time I read about the theoretical possibility of runaway permafrost melting. Of course we got here in 2020.

[@eco-techandtravel5258]

What you think about Pleistocene rewilding.

[@-LightningRod-]

yeeeeeeaaaaah, ... 2020.

[@claybomb1064]

2021 will be worse... and every year there after.

[@mxecho]

why is warmer weather bad? why can we not survive climates like that of 65 million years ago or 250 million years ago?

[@Mistical1982]

@@mxecho Apart from billions of people being displaced across the equator and in other areas due to sea level rise, it will cause climate disruption, crop failures and a lack of freshwater for drinking.

[@9squares]

Thank you for reminding us that all the noise around the US election, collapsing economies, a pandemic, and the breakdown of society in general, is but trivial in the greater scheme of things. Your work is second to none and I am grateful you continue to share the science.

[@0xszander0]

Humanity is too focussed on itself to be seeing the bigger picture. Our (average human) greed has become our downfall before most of us are able to see it.

[@KateeAngel]

In the greater scheme of things only black holes and dark energy are important)

[@0xszander0]

@@KateeAngel Girlfriend: Am i important? Man: Only black holes and dark energy are important.

[@velotill]

not trivial, just imagine a Gore presidency and what his sensibilty for the issue could have meant for changing our ways 20 years ago.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Thank you Tim. I appreciate that. I wish the topic was a bit happier, but it is what it is.

[@crazycutz8072]

The most calm way to tell us we are fucked.. Thank you for that :)

[@greatwhitenorth762]

LOL....more of the same BS hysteria and lies that the "climate catastrophe" doomsday prophets have been puking out for the past 6 decades. First it was "we're all gonna burn up", then it was "oh noooo, another ice age, we're all gonna freeze", and now it's back to "we're all gonna fry" again. The only truth is how consistently wrong and full of shyte these climate "predictors" are.

[@doobidoo095]

CO2 at 0.04% is a 2,500th part of the atmosphere. That means to warm the climate by just 1"C carbon dioxide molecules must capture 2,500"C of heat energy. That is impossible. It also breaks the fundamental laws of thermodynamics. Methane at 0.00017% is a 600,000th of the atmosphere so it's even more impossible. However, the climate is changing. This is because of deliberate geoengineering programmes, in particular ozone thinning away from the poles. Though largely unreported ozone thinning effect is directly observable, this summer you can see a unnaturally bright sun just as we did last year. Under these conditions the pain felt when looking at the sun is not only from the increase in visible light but the much larger increase in infrared. (Look up at the sky and you will see a range of geoengineering operations in progress, these include chemtrail induced cloud or hazing, ripple patterns caused by HAARP installations, bizarre and unnatural cloud formations). Climate change is a programme to force change in accordance with the implementation of Agenda 21 /2030. Current events demonstrate this transition is well underway and will involve massive population cull through injected nanotech (re transhumanist programme). Agenda 21 also sees the permanent loss of all property rights with the introduction of universal basic income (ref NESARA/GESARA) and has/is being promoted by The World Economic Forum. 'You will own nothing and you will be happy' WEF In a depopulated world the surviving brainwashed and controlled population will be confined to mega cities. Carbon limits will be used to restrict consumption and liberty. Meanwhile the re-greened wilderness will be the exclusive playground of the ultra rich elite posing as conservationists. The CO2 hoax amounts to the theft of the world and the enslavement of humanity by a parasitic few. Welcome to the future! _________ I have included a debunking of 'accumulated heat' as it is so often used to explain how trace elements, so called 'greenhouse gasses', can warm the planet. Accumulated heat whilst sounding a reasonable explanation of how heat can build up is rather nothing more than gobbledygook. In fact it shows those using such arguments do not even understand what heat is. When we measure temperature we are measuring the heat energy a thing is losing. In short heat is a measurement of flow, the transfer of heat energy and this will always be in the direction towards the colder. For this reason a thing can never 'accumulate heat' in the way those advocating CO2 climate change describe. The temperature of a body is the measure of heat output, it can never be greater than the measure of heat input. Output = input. When a thing is warmed it is heated to an equivalent of the heat input. If this input is not maintained it will cool. Those that propose that heat can build up to be hotter than the total measure of heat input at a given time either do not understand what heat is or are being deliberately misleading. To illustrate, an object being heated by a flame can never become hotter than that flame, it's temperature cannot rise inexorably to the temperature of the sun for instance. Heat cannot be accumulated. When we think about it common sense tells us this must be the case. NASA and even Nobel Prize winning physicists have expounded 'accumulated heat' as the explanation how CO2 is able to warm the atmosphere. They claim that over hundreds of years CO2 has captured heat energy and this heat has 'accumulated' to produce a serious warming effect. As I have just explained, this is totally impossible and fundamentally violates all the laws of thermodynamics. That respected scientists should support such uneducated, unthinking nonsense is disturbing and only reflects that in terms of being able to think clearly about a subject they have no facility or inclination. These are the Dark Ages of science. Belief has outweighed logic or any critical thought. It tells us that we should not unquestioningly accept anything we are told, that experts can be fools. (NB: be aware of attempts to discard thermodynamics by talking about biology. Eg. 'It only takes a drop of arsenic to kill a person.' This would be somewhat desperate, muddled thinking. Clearly biological processes based on the reaction of a cell are not the same as the laws of physics/thermodynamics).

[@greatwhitenorth762]

@@doobidoo095 Whereas what you said about Agenda 21 and the long term plan of the globalist elites to control all the wealth, land, and people, may indeed be true, and i suspect it is, it's also true that you wrote 10 paragraphs of mostly utter horseshit. Your opening paragraph contained this --> "CO2 at 0.04% is a 2,500th part of the atmosphere. That means to warm the climate by just 1"C carbon dioxide molecules must capture 2,500"C of heat energy." That is without doubt one of the stupidest things i've ever seen anyone on YT say. You clearly have no idea wtf you're talking about. That's not thermodynamics, that's infantile rambling nonsense. Plus, all your conjecture about "HAARP", "chem-trails", and all the rest of your "weather engineering", is just that, conjecture. Conspiracy theory gobbltygoop. Where's your proof? I'm not going to waste my time dissecting all the crap you spewed. The foolishness about "co2 molecules must capture 2,500 degrees C of heat", tells us all we need to know. Do you believe in lizard people living inside our hollow earth too?

[@herbayum76]

@@greatwhitenorth762 you sound as convincing as a Jehova Witness...

[@tyfode224]

@@greatwhitenorth762 I use to think that also, but it's getting harder to deny the changes i'm seeing. Going to get to mid 50's again today in January. No snow and very dry. My eyes are wide open!

[@chrisslater4053]

"It's not a matter of if, but rather a matter of when." The fact that new tipping points occur at ever faster rates, we can be sure it's not too far off. Meanwhile at the other pole, Thwaites & the other West Antarctic ice shelf are melting where the ice meets the grounding zone. Not hard to realize that in about 20 years all hell will be breaking loose. Good luck future people.

[@waynebroome7984]

Chris Slater How do you know there bad? We dont, also do your research, they say there is correlation of temp and CO2 since 1840 to now, so 280 years, now how many of those years actually have correlation? 46 pit of 280, for 234 years temps were either cooling or steady, so do you still think there is correlation?

[@Jayf1981]

That's what they said 20 years ago and no appreciable change has taken place in the carbon models! "ZERO"

[@gpicken]

Note to future self: told you so. Lol

[@Linda-yq8ew]

20 years? I say 10, but what do I know? None of this was supposed to happen until the end of the century.

[@gw7754]

I feel the same way, if not 20 years, then 30 years out the world's climate system will really be starting to get out of control. The ESAS (East Siberian Arctic Shelf) is the world's largest shallow sea. It emits methane and because it's shallow, the methane makes it up the water column and into the atmosphere. Methane releases that occur at more water depth (150 m+ - ?) get consumed by microbes and don't make it to the atmosphere. So the ESAS is a significant source of methane which has a heat-trapping capability of approximately 85 times CO2 over the first 20 years after being released into the atmosphere. Thawing permafrost that's thawing from the top, interacts with oxygen and releases CO2 into the atmosphere as a by-product of microbial decomposition. The same permafrost thawing deeper down in an anaerobic decomposition releases CH4 (methane) into the atmosphere. There is a lot more permafrost thawing than what was predicted not too many years ago. All of this heat-trapping gas release conspires to heat the arctic region up more rapidly than we would prefer (or had predicted). This then leads to more arctic sea ice loss which then causes the jet stream to do strange meanderings which then can lead to extreme weather events in at least anywhere in the Northern Hemisphere. Not too hard to understand if you've taken the time and effort to understand what is going on, not some of the previous bullshit comments attempting to disprove it all.

[@EastBayFlipper]

A long time ago I was speaking with a researcher while traveling and we discussed the arctic and methane hydrates. The way he described it was a balanced table covered with ball bearings, as long as the table is level, all is good. However, any forcing in the system would tilt the table and all the ball bearings would run off the table. Methane hydrates were the ball bearings. The table is tilting now but only a couple have fallen off but the more heat in that system and ,it ain't good. I'm seeing plumes of methane now that is trackable by satellite 😬

[@mandeepsingh-px3xq]

Where?

[@hiimelfo]

@@mandeepsingh-px3xq .Siberia. esas more specifically

[@matthauslill4577]

During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@mikek2218]

I remember studying this effect when I was in college and remember the horror from the thought of it. That was 35 years ago, and what have we done in the interim to avoid this scenario?... ZERO. Yes, we do truly deserve our inevitable extinction. I'm just sad that we are taking so many other species along with us.

[@0xszander0]

Pfff so many beautiful animals that could've had true joy living onwards. Wiped because of the greed of a single species. Technology I can get behind. But the consumerism surrounding us. It just makes me sick. Make things that last, capitalism in it's current form destroys us.

[@mikek2218]

@@0xszander0 Spot on and well said.

[@chrisdaniels3929]

We now have economic and growing wind and solar generation. 35 years ago this was all but limited to calculators! Think positive! This is a challenge that can be met.

[@twoeightythreez]

The upside is that we are not the pinnacle of life on this planet. The planet will recover, whether or not Humans are around to see it.

[@rickydee5863]

@@0xszander0 true that the human race sacrificed on the altar of capitalism. Led there like lambs to the slaughter. .dystopian insanity.

[@aleksandar7393]

To lighten the mood a bit, this is a perfect time to be positive, smile, and play violins same as that orchestra on the Titanic ... :)

[@herbayum76]

And put the heater on its getting colder

[@aleksandar7393]

@@herbayum76 Donkey went to a corn field, day was so hot that corn started to pop as popcorn, so donkey thought it is snow and he died of cold.

[@herbayum76]

@@aleksandar7393 there we are, its all in the mind! Nice parable... But this year only, how many more signs do you need to realise something could be changed... I hope in retrospect i was that goat and all we experience now was just a little hick up of Mother Nature...

[@aleksandar7393]

@@herbayum76 Little we know about the nature, predictions can go this or that way, it can suddenly get cold because of the stop of the gulf stream, and it can get really hot after it melts etc. One is certain, all of this is because of the human influence. So, lets that everything will go to shit and that we cannot do anything, question is should you be scared? And would you try to do anything? Fear does not serve any purpose, and if you try to change yourself for better giving up few habits, and we leave fossil fuel economy, nothing special would happen except those 0.1% will lose few dollars ... We may parish, but nature will continue, give it a few million years everything will bloom again... maybe shame for us we were so close, but `c'est la vie`

[@TedToal_TedToal]

A bright spot I recently found was in realizing that the transition to zero carbon will not be linear but exponential (and eventually S-shaped). The past decade when it seemed nothing was happening, there was actually a great deal of activity, by engineers, inventors, innovators, innovative companies, activists, cities, states, etc. A great deal of foundation work was necessary to get the ball rolling, but rolling it now is, as is evident in the solar, wind, energy storage, and electric vehicle fields. The changes are beginning to explode. The pace is going to quicken rapidly and we’re going to be amazed at how fast we can change when we finally get ourselves moving. I hope.

[@cathyjune1212]

indeed

[@matthauslill4577]

Just have a think! During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@KateeAngel]

It is very interesting to see how fast this process will happen in the future. I bet it is already happening much faster than all current estimates

[@kimweaver1252]

Russia's unofficial motto will be apropos for all of us......... "...... and then it got worse".

[@MrSvenovitch]

I wonder how 'interesting' you will find starving by lack of harvests.

[@matthauslill4577]

During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@ukeyaoitrash2618]

@@MrSvenovitch i won't, I'm Dutch. We're so rich that we can always buy up the worlds food markets lol. And also nato has all the weapons compared to third world so they can't even stop the grain tankers by force. We won't starve here lol. So it'll be interesting to watch. Together with my primary hobby of being an anime fan off course 😁

[@peterskove3476]

I’m not a scientist, high school drop out. But I do read. 40 yrs ago some of us figured we had 30 yrs to make major changes including that taboo subject HUMAN OVERPOPULATION. It would seem our estimates were close, and the answer to my ultimate question answered ; are we going to unite and solve this, or will it be every man for himself....it seems culture drops us in a future evolution did not have time to prepare us for. Now I understand that Einstein quote. The 4 th world war will be fought with sticks and stones because without the culture that brought us here, we will be back where we belong evolutionally - the Stone Age

[@RBEmpathy]

Human overpopulation is a myth - aren't like 10% of the world's people responsible for like 80% of the warming? No, the real issue is capitalism. A study years ago found that if corporations had to pay for externalities, virtually none would be profitable. We have a system set up that is unsustainable by it's nature.

[@KateeAngel]

@@RBEmpathy it is not a myth. Overpopulation works with overconsumption and economic inequality. Together they create disaster. They all should be addressed. But even if inequality was solved and everyone consumed equally, we would need to all live as people in the poorest countries in order for our ecological footprint to be within planetary boundaries. If everyone in the world lived as good as people in the richest countries, we would be screwed even faster than now

[@RBEmpathy]

@@KateeAngel my point was that we can have a more sustainable and equitable society. Overpopulation only matters because we live in unsustainable means. Also, the argument that we would all have to live like less industrialized peoples is a lie. If we utilized recycling, green energy, and cradle to grave production standards, everyone on the planet could live perfectly comfortably.

[@KateeAngel]

@@RBEmpathy Not everything can be solved with technology. It is not magic from a fairytale, that offers any new solution the moment new problem appears. Even nowadays: we cannot recycle everything, for example Sweden, being progressive as it is, still literally burns a huge proportion of trash, cause that is full of materials that cannot be recycled. No matter how technology improves, sooner or later in the setting of growth, the harm from consumption will out-grow the technological progress. And growth of consumption will continue if population growth continues, even if other problems like inequality and inefficiency are solved. (And the biggest one- the destructive paradigm of endless economic growth). "Overpopulation" is a problem not of number of people as it is now, but of continued unsustainable growth. 1% growth of global population that we see now is still very unnatural and abnormal.

[@Apjooz]

Why do you want us to be sensible in one thing but not sensible in another thing? Population is easy to solve and a quick path to wealth and prosperity.

[@howardskillington4445]

What sort of person could give this clear and temperate report a thumbs-down? What a world...

[@unicornadrian1358]

Because it’s alarmist bullshit. The methane cycle is 12 years, not 20.

[@patemblen3644]

@unicorn Adrian Look up Global Warning Potential and then listen to what he said again. He didn't say how long it takes to break down Methane. Remember, 'a little knowledge is a dangerous thing'.

[@praisebewibble]

I would. I've been listening to these prophets of doom for over 30 years and the ice is still there. Alarmist claptrap. Wake up for God's sake.

[@howardskillington4445]

@@praisebewibble The only problem with your contention is that the ice is not still there - it is diminishing rapidly. You climate change deniers will be hunted down like rabid dogs, when things get too dire to ignore, it's too late to do anything about it.

[@patemblen3644]

@@praisebewibble That's the problem, if something doesn't black out the sun within a week then a lot of people think it's ignoreable. You are a boiling frog.

[@deadasfak]

holy shit I haven't been here for a few months, the channel EXPLODED! Last time the average viewcount was around a few thousand. Congratulations!

[@augustlandmesser1520]

Trolls are swarming...

[@j.lahtinen7525]

2020 is just basically a massive shitstorm of misery.

[@peterbrickwood3204]

Yeah and 2021 doesn't look like being much better, and perhaps any year thereafter.

[@brentsummers7377]

@@peterbrickwood3204 2021: Mass Covid vaccinations kick in. Several Boeing and Airbus aircraft crash due to return to service maintenance of fuel systems not being done properly. Yay.

[@perlan1956]

Ragnarök is coming

[@amittikare7246]

2020 is not the worst so far, its the best henceforth

[@badendhappy2903]

oh, its only beginning, WAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[@donovanjones4175]

In Canada, certain communities have to now be moved because of permafrost melt under their buildings. Roads to these communities in the far north are buckled and heaving so badly that transport of supplies is difficult. We knew this a decade ago.

[@rob1248996]

The problem isn't that the permafrost is damaging the buildings. The problem is that people built their buildings on something that was "meltable". Some times you just need to plan ahead.

[@donovanjones4175]

rob1248996 that would be the Inuit, and there was no real knowledge of this until the late 80’s, there is also no real warning, it just sluffs off. They place buildings close to water for fishing, hunting purposes and of course the water.

[@jamannetje]

@@rob1248996 Don't build on permafrost, don't build at the sea, don't build near a rift in the earth, don't build on an island formed by a vulcano. Don't build near rivers or in Africa for that matter.

[@rob1248996]

@@jamannetje Dear Idiot. It's OK to build on an island formed by a volcano. It's NOT OK to build ON the volcano.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Same in parts of Siberia too apparently. As you say, those folks have known the reality for many years.

[@junetodd100]

"just have a drink..."

[@ingebygstad9667]

2020 have been a year worthy of emptying several bottles.

[@dmc3302]

@@ingebygstad9667 This sounds like the trump solution - ignore it, delegitimize it, attack those sounding the alarms, and tried and true avoidance...

[@treethunderchild9022]

62 yrs old. Alaska resident, studying climatology and palioclimatology 40+ yrs. Computer programmer using planetary physics and history to compile the math of where things have been, are, and are going. People still living in denial saying changing the atmosphere. doesn't change the atmosphere.... Solar and wind powered post, using my wind turbines and solar panels that are almost 40 years old. Change is not for us to leave for the next generations to do for us. It is for us to do, for them. Think of this world 50 years from now, what it will be like, what will we need to survive in that world. I needed to learn to live in that world, so I could teach my children what they needed to know to survive. Before I could teach them, I had to first learn how to do it myself. I don't tell the world to change. I am part of the world, that makes it my job.

[@zlamskyisky]

This deserves all of our attention, even though it depresses the hell out of me... Thanks for making this video!

[@weakamna]

Yeah, I'm making an effort to like comments and replying, in order to get some recognition from the algorithm. I don't really have anyone to share with that will care enough to watch the video probably, so I'm doing the best I can to push "interaction" or whatever the metric is.

[@xqt39a]

This is as spooky as it gets.

[@whalesong999]

This and the pandemic are drawing some people to go inwards and check how we feel on a momentary basis. That's a good thing even if the news is alarming and it's a painful walk.

[@timothykeith1367]

I'm not afraid. I'd like to live in Alaska someday.

[@dianewallace6064]

I take solace in the fact that whatever happens; science, math and nature will win.

[@samlair3342]

Yes, indeed, it’s not a question of ‘If’ but ‘When’ in so very many ways. Excellent video!

[@robinhood5627]

I think it's not a question of "if" OR "when" because it is happening and the when is now. The question needs to be "how much" or "how bad".

[@ulurag]

@@robinhood5627 Exactly, it beyond when.

[@pheebsbrx1603]

@@robinhood5627 Good points. Another question that might be asked is, "How did they know 2000 years ago?" Revelation 11:18 "But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your slaves the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” This international magazine explains about the heavenly administration that is going to turn around the havoc humans have wreaked. It may be of interest to you: www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-no2-2020-may-jun/

[@samlair3342]

@@pheebsbrx1603 Thanks for sharing.

[@pheebsbrx1603]

@@samlair3342 It's my pleasure.

[@icisne7315]

Ah yes 2020 the year that keeps on giving

[@_____J______]

Living in north I find it weird when in end of February there going on snow melting already It wasn't case in my childhood, few decades ago And even more weirder when whole winter last year snow wasn't forming very well at all, would melt during day completely ... Those who says this isn't happening...just fix yourself. And frankly: I doubt that changes is reversible, too late

[@tyfode224]

Yep, winter isn't what it used to be here either.

[@matthauslill4577]

Just have a think! During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@PhilippeOrlando]

So in a civilized way I'd simply say that we are so screwed.

[@None12445]

...and no one in power give a damn.... 😕

[@0xszander0]

Yep. We need a follow up video on how to best deal with our inevitable downfall. With possible timelines, scenario's. What to do in food shortages/extreme heat etc.

[@claybomb1064]

@@0xszander0 yes. It’s time to accept our fate and quit wasting time ...This is happening and there’s no stopping it.

[@deepashtray5605]

@@0xszander0 Not necessarily our downfall, but a serious discussion and preparation for mitigating the tsunami of shit heading our way is most certainly overdue.

[@englishpassport6590]

@@None12445 The Quislings won't be bothered - they will turn us into their sacrificial anode!

[@eco-techandtravel5258]

One episode on fossil fuels subsidies.

[@jfjoubertquebec]

@B W And in Canada where Quebec's Hydro is forced to subsidize the development of Alberta tar sands!

[@sodalitia]

Why flogging the dead horse?

[@jfjoubertquebec]

@Gord Orvis Hihi. I laugh, it hurts , but I laugh. Thanks.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Hi Orion. I've touched on it in a couple of videos... kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5O6lJWhaKaFmpI and kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4uzgKasbJZ7qtk but I'll probably do a follow up in the New Year.

[@peterbelanger4094]

ALL government subsidies are a gateway for corruption.

[@karlmullowney998]

Great Man ! Very easy to listen to and riveting . Who needs TV . BIG THANKS !

[@spikemansss]

Ah this video was so relaxing before going to sleep.

[@justinbaker2883]

Your research and tidy explanations are on point. Really appreciate your hard work. Could not be easy

[@JustHaveaThink]

Cheers Justin. I appreciate your support. All the best. Dave

[@thedudegrowsfood284]

* note to self: sell all winter-sports stocks soonest.

[@artsmith103]

Record lows and snow around the Rocky Mountain Front so far this year. Send your stocks there for donation. (Maybe it was funnier with my original Socks typo :-)

[@tbjornholdt]

@@artsmith103 Record high temperatures in Scandinavia.

[@artsmith103]

@@tbjornholdt That's the point isn't it? Various extreme high and low temperatures everywhere.

[@daveramsay8598]

Al Gore II...... after he stated skiing is dead in 2005 we have had some record breaking winters for snow sports, in Europe, Asia, USA. I know because I skied them all.....

[@DSAK55]

buy guns and ammo

[@robinhood5627]

How have I not heard of this channel before!? Very clear and well demonstrated, highly educational and informative, amazing!

[@djash7161]

The consequences of bad decisions by world leaders

[@ThePaulv12]

Helped by the murdoch media of climate deniers influencing the great hoards of pig ignorant morons (epitomizing the Dunning-Kruger effect) as well as the uneducated, who then go on to elect right wing governments. The right cunningly target these people that believe critical thinking is a weakness. The right wing media feeds them and tells them all they want to hear. The Right call the moderate Left the extreme left when it is the Right that is extreme. The Right want us all back in a feudal society as it was 200 years ago and for a very long part of human history and they are using the great hoards of uneducated people on earth as a tool to get us there. *pig ignorant in this context means people who willfully don't want to know anything they don't already believe.

[@msship8234]

Well, we should hold them accountable. They all raked in a lot of money and privileges, for the 'rEspOnSIbiLity' that came with their jobs. So - yeah - let's hold them responsible. Because they did a criminally bad job.

[@rmgwheelsspokeslab.7767]

I´m sorry but I disagree at this point and is an enormously important point. To me, each and every one person on this world has its part of responsibility. But specially we at the westernalized world. They give us what we ask them for. They didn´t drive our cars, they didn´t decide if we flew around the world or stayed at home. We are part of the game. The key factor. If we changed they will have to. Pandemic has exposed how weak our system is. And the funny thing is that we keep on trying to go on the same way. We´ve had the last word as consumers of a globalized world. I feel my part of guilt. Blaming at leaders is very easy. Now we should be changing our decisions like crazy if we want to damp a little the drop. The problem is not Trump exists. The problem is there are millions people who place him there. Now he´s gone (hope far away, hell is a good place), so people who avoid their responsibilities have to find another one to blame to. Please people, act, do something. We all can do something small. Billions of small things make a huge thing.

[@wasssssuppppppp]

Well said. The right and the left both contribute to climate change. The left admits it’s wrong and does it anyway, the right refuses to admit theres a problem and does it anyway. I’ve noticed a similar pattern in the discussion of virus spreading behavior vs. going out and engaging in that very behavior. Maybe if those of us who acknowledge climate change have the balls to live the solution, the skeptics would join us. Then maybe we would have the unified political will to pass the necessary legislation to seal the deal.

[@frankboff1260]

The world needs to start suing governments for their treasonous failures.

[@Danger_mouse]

We are PROPERLY and comprehensively BUGGERED! The downhill slope has started and the clock is ticking.... not an exciting prospect when there's no brakes.

[@williamgoode9114]

I think there is a brake, cloud cover

[@martinbrandom2654]

Dont worry we will come out of this warm spell in a few years and it will go colder like it does every few decades.

[@Danger_mouse]

@@martinbrandom2654 Not when you look at the mountains of creditable data.

[@rdelrosso2001]

The 4 years the USA wasted, when it was Ruled by the Climate Denier-In-Chief Donald Trump, may prove to be fatal, but we cannot throw up our hands and run away from Reality now. All I can say is, if Trump overturns the Election and we have FOUR MORE YEARS OF CLIMATE DENIAL, then the Earth is Toast!

[@rdelrosso2001]

@@martinbrandom2654 Did you read NOAA's October 2020 "State of the Climate Report"? Apparently not. See, " was the 44 and with the -. in were record warm across southern North America, South America, eastern Europe, southern Asia and parts of the eastern and western North Pacific Ocean." 430 months is over 35 years, so much for the idea it "gets cold every few decades" LOL

[@AmerBoyo]

Simply terrifying, as a scientist, the importance of this scenario cannot be understated. We are approaching the point of no return for the planet to be habitable, let alone some mild warming.

[@joeycrikey2594]

You haven't seen the reports that we have already passed the point of no return?

[@interstellarsurfer]

The planet will still be habitable, just not as we live today, and for not nearly as many of us. Malthus will be proven correct.

[@iwiffitthitotonacc4673]

Yeah, the planet will definitely still be habitable, I'm just wondering where all of us are going to live. Undersea sounds great.

[@ramblerandy2397]

Agreed, this is terrifying. This is a major trigger for the climate to run away in a positive feedback loop. I would suggest that we can forget 2°C by 2030. That's almost certainly gone. And nations proclaiming carbon neutrality by 2050 just isn't going to cut it either.

[@KateeAngel]

Planet will be habitable. And evolution will create new species to inhabit new climate zones. Not to mention enormous amount of microbes living in the crust 2 and more km deep, who will die off only as a result of Sun swallowing the Earth 5 billion years in the future, if it even happens. If you mean habitable for humans, well, some places will probably be still habitable, too bad they won't host all our enormous overinflated population

[@albertr.8383]

Q: Climate Change Means? A: Mother Nature cleaning up our act, includes ALL of us. Nothing we can do. Just hold on and enjoy the ride. You haven't seen nothing yet.

[@donniemoder1466]

Thanks for the report. I always learn a lot from your videos.

[@seanmason6707]

Let us for once mimic life and never ever give up. It's the very least we can do for all we have harmed. Peace

[@incognitotorpedo42]

Thank you. It's nice to see that here instead of the usual doomster "we're all gonna die" rhetoric.

[@rickydee5863]

Nice sentiment but it's just that. We will end up hunting each other as a food source.

[@achenarmyst2156]

@@rickydee5863 Soilent Green.

[@rickydee5863]

@@achenarmyst2156 yes soylent green could be the go to solution for the corporate government power structures.or a version thereof. But eventually it will come down to all powers structure gone no government no police and this enforced morality we call a civil society will be gone. The closest depiction of what that future will look like is best described by Cormack McCarthy in his book The Road

[@mayflowerlash11]

I have not come across a video where the comments are in agreement and consistently negative. Unfortunately I also agree with them. You have to be a blindly deluded optimist to find the silver lining in this story.

[@greatwhitenorth762]

LOL

[@mayflowerlash11]

Well it's been 9 months since I wrote that comment and now I would like to reply to myself. (keep up people) A few weeks ago I watch a discussion between the authors of a book called "Empty Earth". Their thesis? The human population with increase by one or two billion more, peak, then start to decline. Whoa there Nellie, what the hell have you been smokin'. Seems these guys went around the world gathering data on the replacement rate for humans in different countries, and guess what, it's declining. Surprised, I sure was. If it gets below 2.1 per couple the global population will decline. And replacement rates globally are generally in decline. The cause is the education and emancipation of women who can now control their own fertility. And they choose NOT to have big families. 21st century sure will be interesting. Have a nice day.

[@thareallaura726]

I get tired of debating this with science deniers. Let this intelligent and reputable individual explain it. *shared*

[@stevebailey4336]

Another methane disaster: uncapped abandoned oil wells.

[@greatwhitenorth762]

Methane don't mean sh*t. It's a totally inconsequential, meaningless greenhouse gas. The clown who uploaded this enormous pile of nonsense, is a fool or a liar for pushing this BS narrative about methane.

[@geneberg4850]

FLIR cameras detect methane gas that's invisible to human's eyes, that tech show all oil and gas infrastructures leak methane.

[@enricod.7198]

@@greatwhitenorth762 yeah it's only 30 to 80 times worse than co2 as greenhouse potential, yeah..keep digging with the head under ground buddy

[@greatwhitenorth762]

@@enricod.7198 Here, get a clue. A free methane education. No charge. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWevpKKfrruHf6s

[@yamilcoloma6677]

This is so depressing.... It took a lot of courage for me to even click on this video...

[@poisoncobra7]

Same, in the last two months I've really delved into climate change, bought books on the subject and tried to spread scientific graphs and news articles on social media, but non of those that follow me seem to give a shit, I'm guessing they are in denial and i understand that but I wish people would wake up soon.

[@yamilcoloma6677]

@@poisoncobra7 yeah it's really hard to face this kind of issues. I don't blame people who ignore it... On the other hand I get frustrated with people who outright denies it

[@JustHaveaThink]

Keep going Yamil. Never give up.

[@tomzjamz]

@@poisoncobra7 same story here mate, I’ve started sharing posts and even some of the videos from this channel. But it just seems to go ignored.

[@whalesong999]

There were/are spiritual messages warning of things like this that took hold on me as a youth. I'm no bible-beater but given some time to get my preconceptions fueled by worldly activities out of the way, it's clear that the events described there can meld with the science in this video. I always wondered (and feared) about the end of the earth as we know it would come by fire. This video gives ample concern over just that, perhaps not only literal fire but also the metaphoric.

[@cyclingjoe7663]

Thank you for explaining subjects in a kind and clever way

[@nancyhope2205]

Thank you for your clear and well put together videos.

[@jasenanderson8534]

Great summary as usual. Too bad deniers still deny that this is a significant risk factor coming to light. The sooner moves are taken to decarbonise the better.

[@simonford9725]

I have a good part of my family as extreme deniers! My stepfather, brother, his partner and her stepfather (who has probably put denial into all of them! He is a good chemist, but not a climatologist, ecologist or geologist) My uncle in Finland agrees with me and possibly my aunt in Brisbane as she was flooded!) The deniers in my family believe that the myth that CO2 or methane is contributing to global warming (I don’t even think that they believe in any warming of the planet!) is one of the biggest frauds ever pulled on mankind, along with the IPCC figures! They think ice in the Antarctic is re freezing and probably haven’t even looked at what is happening to Thwaites glacier. They subscribe to the likes of Tony Heller, Patrick Moore, Tucker Carlson, Sky news Australia etc All extreme deniers! Even Neil Oliver, whom I much admire, is a global warming sceptic!

[@tylerwood9585]

Another great segment Dave!! Thanks so much for the very well thought out and detailed explanations!!

[@JustHaveaThink]

Cheers Tyler. I'm planning to get to the Hemp subject in the New Year by the way (I'll be full time on the channel by then). I'll drop you an email nearer the time. All the best. Dave

[@matthauslill4577]

@@JustHaveaThink Just have a think! During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@-LightningRod-]

TIME to openly declare "Criminality" for externalized costs. The "Cost" of transforming Our society can easily be covered by those responsible, criminally and negligently responsible, ... corporations are people too.(oh dear lord)

[@monkeyfist.348]

Imagine a world where we do something, the money for that adequate response comes from the ill gotten gains of corporations that have profitted from destroying the planet.

[@paintedwings74]

If corporations are people too, we should be able to try them for Crimes Against Humanity, and sentence them to hang by the neck until dead.

[@poppete]

complacency + the desire not to have the status quo of our lifestyle changed + our bank balances infringed upon or power over nature curbed by - people - be they political leaders, corporations, individual fat cats, OR ordinary people who are just trying to get buy - dose not have to be criminal just ignorant, dismissive or just disconnected from the natural world and how it is interconnected and the effects each part has on the whole. We can not blame the people who seek to exploit natural resources to make the things we ourselves cant or wont give up. The consumer drives this just as much or more than the corporations. The marketing hypnotising strategies + consumer appetite - without us they have nothing. We can NOT just blame others. Remove the need for there to be a monitory cost in favour of just doing it because it needs to be done for the benefit of all - all people no matter country, all creatures, all eco systems as a whole.

[@tombombadil3185]

@@paintedwings74 Robert Reich said: "I will believe corporations are people too when Texas executes one."

[@-LightningRod-]

@@poppete that would be TRUE, ..."IF", ... the options WE were offered, reflected to entire spectrum of options available instead of the ones pre=selected to maximize PROFITS for the People who should have and did KNOW better, ....\instead of the pre-selected options given to us for PROFITS

[@ericdumont4301]

Thank you for speaking human. Very clear and informative episode.

[@jamestiburon443]

Thank you for your well informed enlightened comments.

[@rockintherockies]

and all the kings scientists and all the kings engineers couldn't put humpty dumpty together again...

[@bazoo513]

Yup... :o(

[@weakamna]

Such an extremely apt story, it seems more and more relevant for each passing year...

[@davidgriggs3967]

The planet will go on ,we won't unless it throws it's self into a new ice age before we all cook.

[@cybervigilante]

We only take action if a War and mass murder for phony reasons is needed - then any effort or amount of money will be spent.

[@pereraddison932]

... any "chants" about capturing that methane, as a source of fuel-?...

[@kevw333]

The finest description of greenhouse gas effect i have seen. Thanks.

[@JustHaveaThink]

Thank you. I really appreciate your feedback.

[@rdelrosso2001]

In a "Debate" on Fox News, between Bill Nye the Science Guy and Marc Morano of the Climate Depot: Bill explains all about CO2 warming the Earth. Marc says: "Bill just wasted 15 minutes of our time explaining how CO2 warms the Earth, when it does not". I wish Marc could watch this video. Some people just do not "Believe" CO2 or Methane can warm the Earth.

[@audreypalomar4171]

Very clear and informative.

[@Jeff-gq2tq]

Another excellent and well-presented video! You have a gift for broadcasting detailed scientific information in a clear and interesting way. Please keep up your great work! Thank you.

[@njm3211]

Excellent content as is your usual. Terrifying confirmation of an ever accelerating methane release feedback loop. Makes CO2 look quaint.

[@itekani]

@Andorian Nationalist You are correct, science is a false religion. That's because the very definition of science is not religion. It is the opposite. But science is not failing. What's failing is the religion of unlimited economic growth on a limited planet. That's what got us here.

[@njm3211]

@Andorian Nationalist What are you proposing as an alternative? Intervention of a Wizard living in the sky?

[@itekani]

@Andorian Nationalist That they have nothing to do with each other is also true. So you are religious, like to mark words and dislike people who trusts science? I would ask what your point is, but I'm afraid I lost interest.

[@MKarhu05]

@@itekani "of unlimited economic growth" Correct. All economists, back to a 3 month refresher course - focusing on reality (of getting the population back to 2B, from 7.8B) - after which, as a graduation proof, for three years you are not allowed to use the word "growth".

[@matthauslill4577]

During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@claybomb1064]

Don’t bother saving for retirement guys.... WASF

[@itekani]

What should we do with what we have already saved? I mean seriously, do we party like it's 1999 or put it to good use somehow? And if the latter, what?

[@icaropereira3218]

Spend it all in solar, indoor farming and AC. There is also the Mars colonization, but probably Earth will still be an easier place to live, only with more conflict though. People trying to break into your cooled dome to get food and water... While on Mars you'll have radiation and danger of decompression of the habitat. Also the possibility of being cutoff if Earth civilization crumbles.

[@itekani]

@@icaropereira3218 Interesting. No Mars is out of the question. If we can't survive on earth, why bother. That's my view anyway.

[@TheDoomWizard]

Already with ya man

[@pspicerwensley]

Plant trees. Sir David Attenborough states we have to return half of arable land to forest if we are to escape the coming warming.

[@julianhastings1547]

Well put across my man

[@enjoynature2827]

Thank you for your work!!! My research indicates that we probably triggered the tipping point a long time ago and many feedback loops are well underway. The net result is that just eliminating all of our impacts won't be enough to stop those feedback loops from feeding themselves. So what is really needed is negative emissions on a massive scale. I still feel like I'm the only one who has a complete solution to this issue... Thank you again for having the courage to spread this information!

[@matthauslill4577]

During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@stephen3418]

What is your complete solution?

[@billtr8516]

I been saying this for a go time ago, but I'm no scientist, The Perm frost melting will not be linear, but squared, so once it starts happening it's going to happen very fast, with effects that are unpredictable "WATERWORLD"

[@RussCR5187]

As I understand it our climate is characterized as a 'complex system', and complex systems are known for sudden collapse when perturbed to tipping points.

[@joeycrikey2594]

@@RussCR5187 are we seeing the beginning of sudden collapse now then? That seems to be the question.

[@RussCR5187]

@@joeycrikey2594 Yes. I think another way to express that question is: "How long do we have left"? Personally, given the complexity involved, I'm not sure the answers to these questions can be known except in hindsight, after the process is well underway.

[@joeycrikey2594]

@@RussCR5187 so next year or a few more decades. Bummer it can't be more specific lol.

[@scribblescrabble3185]

@@joeycrikey2594 the problem with tipping points in complex non-linear systems is, you never know if it is already reached, until it is to late to (re-)act.

[@monkeyfist.348]

It is time for our big push...rush the ramparts that stand in our way....we must face the future boldly

[@-LightningRod-]

indeed the TIME is right now.

[@wasssssuppppppp]

yes. radical personal action -> radical political action

[@alp8409]

From the poles to the equator you can find major changes are underway. Through deforestation, man is changing the local and regional climates. Rainforest is replaced by savannah. The dryer conditions promote the ignition and spread of fire further degrading the remaining stands of forest.

[@captaingordon]

Well presented.

[@tomzjamz]

See you in the resource wars!

[@annetteschneider2301]

Anoxia may kick in first.

[@purpl3grape]

I'll be on high ground

[@buddha1736]

If we made changes in the 1970s we might have had a chance, not now it’s to late.

[@eco-techandtravel5258]

What if we use Pleistocene rewilding project in big scale.

[@alexdavis-mann8513]

Any substantial effort would require cooperation on a global scale that will never happen

[@joeycrikey2594]

I read we would have needed to have made such changes in the 1960s actually.

[@xanderbekkett4988]

@@eco-techandtravel5258 Even in theory, Pleistocene rewilding at the timescale required to save the earth as a habitat for humans would fall short. The cost would also prove prohibitive as well. We have other solutions currently available that can be implemented in a time frame and at a cost that IS possible, if we start TODAY. Begin ten years from now and even this will fail.

[@joeycrikey2594]

@@xanderbekkett4988 just curious, what other solutions are you referring to?

[@brentsummers7377]

Fairly common to read things such as: 'Scientists were amazed to see ....., not expected to happen for another ....years'. I saw one video where two young climate scientists who were a couple & had decided not to have children because of the climate changes in Australia.

[@henriquejorge4280]

I love you. Your calming beautiful voice explaining sometimes terrifying things and important facts go beyond my rational and touch my emotions deep. Thank you. I love you 😍

[@jamesblankenship5439]

The domino effect would be a little scary The snowball effect would be much more than people would be able to deal with with any technology that they have today

[@lindosland]

Good point. We can cool things, we can possibly add a screen to the atmosphere, but we cannot do anything if the sunlight goes out!

[@Deebz270]

@@lindosland What? Who said anything about the sun going out? That's not due for at least another 5 billion years. And how would humankind be able to 'cool things'? What things would they cool? In a system-wide state of thermal runaway, it would require massive amounts of energy to cool this planet, or even its poles, not that any technology exists at scale to accomplish such a task. . And adding a screen to atmosphere? What kind of screen? A glass sphere? A steel container? Orbital umbrellas? A smokescreen? Even if all the volcanoes were to kick-off around the planet, the resulting dimming effect of the sulphate particulates would be shortlived and would not cool the planet sufficiently enough to overide the effects of the accumulated atmospheric greenhouse gasses. ===================================================================================================================== *@James Blankenship - Agreed.

[@lindosland]

@@Deebz270 I don't understand a word of what you are saying. It doesn't seem to be a reply to anything I wrote! Perhaps you read someone else's comment and then blamed me for it?

[@lopezb]

Thank you for presenting this terrifying reality in a thoughtful and both emotionally and intellectually accessible way.

[@matthauslill4577]

Just have a think! During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@garethdhaillecourt7784]

Very helpful to understand what we are facing. Thank you.

[@Naxt366]

thanks man for staying ground and not giving up on rambling this topics.

[@Peter-nv3wu]

We really are on that one way ride now where there is no getting off, and have been on it for quite some time now ! As for the all important point of no return, our planet passed that many years ago because of our continuing actions. It's not a matter of if, but a matter of when the whole ecosystem goes into runaway collapse. Shell made a film warning about Climate change in 1991, kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIXPioyih7Njgrs and knew about the effects of burning fossil fuels, many years before that !

[@Wookey.]

That is an overly simplistic view, not supported by the science. There is no one 'point of no return'. There are many feedbacks, and some processes that stop being reversible eventually. So it is very much a questions of _if_ the whole ecosystem goes into runaway collapse. It has not done so yet, although some tipping point have already been passed (WAIS collapse is very likely, tropical reef ecosystems are close to the tipping point), but it does get more likely with increasing emissions, and we've not started making them go down yet. Giving up now is exactly the wrong time, when _finally_ everyone is realising that major change is needed.

[@brianwheeldon4643]

There are two good youtubes from MIT 1973 vintage about all this broadcast on Thames TV at the time. They weren't wrong, they were spot on, same as those EXXon scientists and their warning memo in ~1980. and more besides, but our politicians ignored them all, for profit largely.

[@lindosland]

From the comments it is clear that many people are taking this video as definitive, and as predicting an end to life as we know it. It's an excellent video, and they may be right, but it got me researching again, and everyone should look at the NASA Earthobservatory site on methane, where there is a lot of detail. It says that methane deposits being released are a tiny problem (not sure I believe them and it seems to depend on whether they stay absorbed by in the sea). Interesting that the main source of man-made methane emissions is Fracking and Natural Gas production, with animal emissions pretty low on the list. Lots of conflicting data! Take a look also at 'Methane, the Irrelevant Greenhouse Gas', for a detailed account of spectral absorption; though I still cannot find out how much each gas actually absorbs in the realities of the atmosphere (different gases in different regions and at different heights). I think it might just be beyond us to know!

[@qui-gonjinn471]

Nice

[@lycaonpictus4433]

Great video

[@trailrunner7585]

Thanks for an informative and excellent lecture. I wish more people knew about this and were willing to accept what it means.

[@matthauslill4577]

Just have a think! During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@manpetepetrop8034]

This phenomenon of abrupt climate change due to sudden CH4 release could be the cause of a mass extinction event 252 million years ago the Permian-Triassic extinction event, also known as the : Gʀᴇᴀᴛ Dʏɪɴɢ...

[@coversongsmail876]

I Also have heard about it

[@nicholassinclair4589]

Thanks, as always, for your comprehensive content. It’s scary to digest this milestone, especially with the late freeze. I hope the people of earth can one day commit to a coexistence with all life including our ecosystems. I truly am lost on words as I ponder the future. Keep educating. 🤞

[@matthauslill4577]

During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@alexanderstrauss4785]

great informative channel.

[@peterclancy3653]

Thanks for your very clear explanation of the methane/ climate problem.

[@kelvinham8576]

Mean time in Australia, more record-high temperatures, and high fire risk again. Our government is still in denial, wanting to continue to fund fossil fuel industries. This is now moving past 'possible' ignorance toward deliberate culpability.

[@piotrwojdelko1150]

people realise when it will be too late

[@uoabigaillevey]

@Gord Orvis Should not be as bad in the regions that burned last year.. all of the built-up burnable overgrowth has already burned. The only fuel that will be available to burn at all will be whatever has grown since the fires. This is why controlled burns are important.. to keep the fuel from growing too much.

[@uoabigaillevey]

@Gord Orvis Land management is a thing. If the burns had been done properly over the last 20-50 years this would likely be a non-issue. I am not from there so I do not know the specifics.. but I do live in a state where tallgrass praries are a thing.. and they require occasional burns to clear out small trees and invasive plant species and so that some tallgrass prarie seeds can actually sprout due to the fact that they require a fire in order to do so.

[@uoabigaillevey]

@Gord Orvis The only insulting thing at present is your automatic assumptions of talking points. I have lived in California in the past and have seen firsthand the effects of controlled burning and the lack thereof. The problem is that they are not burning enough acreage each year.. allowing the fuel to grow larger and dead trees/underbrush to build up in the process. It is the combination of lack of funding for proper management and political infighting that hinders the process. The basic fact remains that if the fire's fuel is already burned away.. then there is very little or nothing left to fuel the fires. A year's growth of underbrush/grasses creates a smaller fire than 20 years worth. As for structural issues.. terracotta roof tiles are essential in such areas as they do not catch fire like regular asphalt-based or wooden shake shingles, and there is flame retardant paint/stucco for outside walls. Clear-cutting an area 10 feet or more from any vulnerable structures is a must. In reality it is the incompetence of leadership in the region, and an uneducated/uncaring populace that is the problem.

[@uoabigaillevey]

@Gord Orvis Climate change is a thing.. it has been since the dawn of the Earth. The fact that things are happening now at what appears to be an accelerated rate is neither proof nor disproof of anything. Correlation does not mean causation. I, personally, do not care one way or another as it is beyond our willpower as humanity to impact beyond a minor degree. Recycle some cans instead of tossing them in the garbage.. the sheer amount of electricity required to extract new aluminum from bauxite would have more of an impact on global warming from a carbon emissions standpoint than all of the talking points in this thread. Invest your savings in renewable energy sources if you happen to have savings... that is how you can have a direct impact on the issue. Hold fundraisers if needed to fund recycling programs or community development that favors a more environmentally friendly atmosphere. Or sit here and accuse others of being deniers.. it matters less to me than the energy used to power my desktop.. which at current electric rates is roughly $0.50 per day.

[@joshpena8956]

Hey man I've seen your videos before, and just now subscribed before watching this video ( the 1 about the "doomsday" glacier and my fact checking made me subscribe, I really loved the video) I appreciate all the work you out into these videos bro. So tried of having science politicized and you truely embody what a content creator should be for covering science (In my personal opinion at least. Keep making videos bro please, these really give me basic starting points to research and then learn, for someone who never went to college and learned more about all of this. But thank you again man and I hope you have a great holiday season. Be safe brother 🖤🤝

[@grindupBaker]

Groovy man.

[@MarkJonesisjustaman]

Great video as usual. Sweet extro;)

[@wlhgmk]

There is a somewhat disquieting possible scenario. As methane is released from the clathrate, a form of permafrost, if you like, the material it was holding together no longer has the 'glue' to keep it solid. If it is at the edge of the continental slope, a wee earth tremor can send this material plunging down into the abyss. Such underwater land slides cause tsunamis. When these tsunamis reach shallower water, the mix the layers, decreasing the pycnocline (density gradient). This further warms the water in contact with the clatrates which are holding the methane trapped. If we start to see tsunamis occurring in the arctic, we may be on the way to a greatly increased progress toward rapid climate change.

[@JP-zp5ic]

Geoengineering here we come. I think we are also about to see a radical departure from "do as you please" consumerist living too.

[@velotill]

had the same though. Mankind will surely adapt and tackle the monumental challenge. Only sad thing is that we can muster our collective strengh only when shit has already hit the fan.

[@achenarmyst2156]

@@velotill Consider that these are tons of shit hitting a giant turbine. Prepare for impact...

[@chuckkottke]

Yes! Here in the land of excess consumerism, I will be much relieved when that phase ends.🌄

[@thoughtlesskills]

Idk about 'radical' its gonna take some work to ween these fools off a new iphone every year.

[@chuckkottke]

@@thoughtlesskills In the 70's there was a movement and a moment when many ppl were leaving consumerism behind, so it is possible.. or maybe not, so the new iPhones will have to be made out of recycled banana peels 🍌.🌞🌎🐌

[@MichaelSHartman]

It's 2020. What could go wrong? Years ago I read about the methal hydrates along the coast then saw how methane aided in the Permian extinction. The feedback loop means it could get out of control fast.

[@ebtsoby]

excellent video

[@dennis3351]

Hello from July 2021 USA. Worst drought in 1200 years being recorded in Western US. reservoirs being depleted , Forest are burning. While Brazil rain forest purposely being torched with Brazilian leader unfazed. And the 3rd wettest summer thus far on record in Eastern USA. And no global consensus. Very tragic. It will cost more and bankrupt nations with emergency funds required than trying to address the problem now. Also global population told to go higher from 7 to 10 billion can't be sustainable. Also nations like India and China need to get onboard fast. What a mess.

[@jebbart]

Also huge floods been happening here in Europe. The heaviest rainfalls in over 1000 years in Germany and now China is also underwater. This is just the beginning though, hold on to your seats!

[@tirua100]

Generally I feel good after watching a Just have a think video but this is terrifying. This is the scenario that I try not to think about. It is the scenario that all the doomsayers talk about. It appears that I may yet live to see the start of the end, unfortunately my sons may well see the totality of it.

[@williamrbuchanan4153]

Don’t worry about it says I ,if it comes, we all get it, no amount of worry or praying will avert it. We got on living at the dodgy time, but some lot had to do it. Don’t have towery we all have the journey together. It will be the first time that we know, man has been united. Positives are possible.

[@tyfode224]

I guess I always thought I would be gone before the worst of whats to come plays out. I always felt mankind was taking to much from the planet and I always hated seeing new construction. I'm big into nature and I feel bad for all the other life that will suffer along with us......

[@matthauslill4577]

Just have a think! During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@matthauslill4577]

@@lindosland Just have a think! During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@matthauslill4577]

@@jeremyjackson7429 Just have a think! During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@Kevin_Street]

I really like the positive spin this channel puts on climate and technology issues. It's often about new technologies that can replace the old ones or ways that we as a species can help. But I guess there's no positive aspect to this news. This is just bad. I think at this point we need to be (dramatically) cutting our greenhouse gas emissions and developing ways to remove those gases from the atmosphere. We need to do both. Just cutting emissions isn't enough now.

[@matthauslill4577]

During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@Monaleenian]

It was back up at 4.72 million square kilometres this year, 2021. That was just the 12th lowest in the 43 years that it has been recorded.

[@weareallconnected237]

This channel should have 180m subscribers not a 180k. Hey Doc you should get Kim Kardashian to make a video explaining plastic and how it harms the planet 😂

[@greatwhitenorth762]

This channel doesn't deserve 18K subs. The guy's an idiot. Or he's actually smart but is just cashing in on the climate hysteria being peddled to the weak minded, clueless NPC zombies.

[@brentkn]

The first domino that falls really has almost no effect over the end result other than the fact it fell. It is the falling of other dominoes that is the problem.

[@noelhughes6101]

If all the dominos were set up in harmony with each other, none of them would fall. It's the same with people.

[@aatt3209]

blue ocean event and the mass extinction of life on Earth, including us.

[@annetteschneider2301]

Mass extinction definitely, but all life on Earth does not need as much oxygen and food as us. I am hopeful that something will survive us, if only the tardigrades, and until I die I will keep fighting the fossil fuel industry so that survival is an option for more species.

[@GregoryJWalters]

Thank you!

[@zrebbesh]

The question is not whether the methane from permafrost will be released. The question is not even when, because when is right now. The question is how fast.

[@ricardomaccotta6367]

The count down has already started, now is a matter of years

[@greatwhitenorth762]

How many "years"? How about 10...that's the standard climate hysteria doomsayers number of choice isn't it. LOL, every ten years for the past 6 decades or more, these climate "prophets" have been flip flopping b/w "global warming" and "coming ice age". LOL. It's pathetic....as are the chicken little indoctrinates who swallow their BS.

[@nolan4339]

It should also be noted that hydrates remain stable at higher temperatures when they are under higher pressures. So deeper deposits won't be as easy to melt. www.researchgate.net/figure/Phase-diagram-for-methane-hydrate-formation_fig4_316891048 From the phase diagram you can infer that at around 40 atmospheres (400 meters) you would need temperatures above around 10 C, so I think most arctic hydrates below that level should be relatively safe.

[@PeterFiekowsky]

Thanks Nolan. That's pretty funny. Let's just ignore the 50 billion tons of methane (10 times more than in the atmosphere now) that will come from the shallower seas.

[@matthauslill4577]

@@PeterFiekowsky Just have a think! During the Holocene Climate Optimum around 10.000 - 5.000 BP it was much hotter in the Arctic than today. Huge amounts of methane from melting thermafrost soils went in the atmosphere. one tipping point after the other. Why was the methane concentration all this time remarkably stable? CH4 amounts in the atmosphere are stabilized by the photo oxydation process since billions of years. Extinction can wait.

[@Wanderers-Bulgaria]

Excellent, knowledgeable and informative video, well backed up with data and sources from researches. That's what I like, science without politics 👏.

[@okillydokilly1107]

I have studied the interaction Behavior between (Living Planet Earth Behavior)(Human Behavior) as a System for 48+ years now. I have to admit Dave has done a remarkable job in presenting one of the most important aspects of this interaction. Dave I give you 5 Gold Stars Two Thumbs and Two Toes Way UP! WOW! World Class leader in bringing to the Public a AWESOME short to the point quick overview of one major aspect of what needs to be known by all Humans on, under, and above this tiny little Living Planet Earth. I can only add a few small comments. (1) Methane Hydrates do not like to be in a Liquid State. They like to go from Frozen Methane to Methane Gas very fast and directly. This of course explains why HUGE HOLES form in the sea bed. When a 50+ Giga-ton Burp occurs in the near future in the Arctic, it will be mostly for that reason. As the Methane Gas rises to the surface of the Sea in the Arctic, there will be a huge wave of salt water that causes even more destabilization of the even larger Frozen Methane on the verge of becoming Methane Gas, under the Sea etc. as a positive feedback Loop. Most Humans think it is either we are dead meat, or we can still do something about it if we just fess up and unite around the facts as one to act quickly and decisively to save Humans! The Physics and Systems Dynamics of the situation indicate a combo or mix of HI Human Intelligence and AI Artificial Intelligence on a massive scale to do the unthinkable to save just the Living Planet Earth, and forget about saving Humans or Androids is a plausible way to get the job done in a timely manor. This Goal I call restoring and maintain "Geo-Homeostasis". Unfortunately the Earth is now about 1% to 10% over the edge of the Goldilocks Zone. Earth is simply too close to the Sun for the Living Planet Earth to recover from what is already locked into the near future. Some Humans back in the early 1800s decided that they would prevent or reverse the Ice Age they thought they were experiencing as the "Little Ice Age". They thought that since they had ownership and control of the means of production and Human reproduction they could use the Business Press interpretation of the Science Press reports about the discovery of CO2 being a greenhouse gas, the discovery of the recent rhythm of the Ice Ages, etc. as the bases of their decision to dig up as much Coal, Oil, Methane Gas Fuel as possible and expand the Human and Machine life as possible to burn up that fuel to produce as much CO2 as possible to warm the Earth to prevent a Ice Age. But of course thinking we are 12,000 years into a Warm Age that only lasts 10,000 years at best was a BIG Mistake. We now know we are 12,000 years into a 40,000 year Warm Age and that dumping all these Green House Gases into the Atmosphere will only cause a sudden abrupt temp jump past a Hot Age to a Fever Age. Such a jump will quickly kill all Humans on, under (COG, Continuity of Government in USA, Russia, China, North Korea, etc.), and above Earth (ISS, etc.) by about 2025. Earth will most likely die around 2040 or so. Hay I never had such an amazing audience as you, Dave! Best I could do was talk one-on-one to someone who might let me talk for 5 min in front of a few grad students. That did not happen very often. Few Humans want to know they are NOT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE! The really important thing on Earth is the Living Planet Earth and keeping it alive. At this point I could add the humorous possibility of ET or GOD showing up just in time to move the Earth away from the Sun to give us Humans some time to learn to govern ourselfs learn in many thousands of years from now how to govern a Planet like Earth to keep it healthy and vibrant. Fat Chance that's going to happen. I could of course lay out the most probable paths for the next few years of global human population collapse. But who cares how Humans die? We did have a chance in the early 1960s when JFK was faced with dealing with the USA Mil-Intel-Indust Complex and decided to coop with the USSR and like Eisenhower before him stop the use of weapons of mass destruction in a final WW3. If he had not been successful, ironically, all Humans would have died soon after all out WW3. The Living Planet Earth would have been saved and all Humans on, under, and above Earth would have died over about 10 years. Then life could have had another chance to restore balance in Geo-Homeostasis again over the next few million years. Unfortunately JFK did prevent WW3. If WW3 were to occur today it would simply speed up the death of the Living Planet Earth. But a mix of HI & AI could still get the job done without intervention by ET or GOD ....