Are 5.56 MATCH Bullets More ACCURATE Than FMJ From An AR-15?

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Tools&Targets

Tools&Targets

2 жыл бұрын

Testing some different types of 5.56 ammo for accuracy at 100 yards from a Ruger MPR AR-15.
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@Adam-nv9zo
@Adam-nv9zo 2 жыл бұрын
Man I swear this channel is gonna be huge soon. Your videos are awesome man. Edit: the 75 grain frontier must identify as Californian ammo being that they are high and left 😆.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Jerry-Parker
@Jerry-Parker 2 жыл бұрын
Good one ! 🤣👍
@Adam-nv9zo
@Adam-nv9zo 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jerry-Parker thank you. I just couldn't resist 😆
@jeffroberts760
@jeffroberts760 2 жыл бұрын
Lol!
@JohnLloydScharf
@JohnLloydScharf 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Way late today. I'd like to see a comparison of Tula with 855 in Jelly from a 9" barrel as that is the pistol I have for this caliber and intend to use for home defense.
@seanomeirs8362
@seanomeirs8362 2 жыл бұрын
Every AR that I have has it's own personality, but my favorite one gives me groups that have no discernable differences in accuracy and POI with 55 and 62g. There's no accounting for barrel harmonics without putting rounds through it, and knowing for sure. I only have 16" and 20" for 5.56, but .300 blackout can make me crazy with the ammo selection availability.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean.😎👍
@Wildwestwrangler
@Wildwestwrangler 8 күн бұрын
Especially when going from sub to sonic!!!
@johnnymccann5607
@johnnymccann5607 2 жыл бұрын
back when I was a deadly marksman and rifleman before being disabled and outher health issues with my savage 110 varminter I reload many bulletsrai weights between 52-53 gr match up to 63 gr serria psp flat base. the 63 gr shot equal to the match bullets so I reload serria 63gr2 and Winchester 64 gr psp and shoot great. I haven't had a223/5.56 in over 25 years . many years ago when I was at my best shooting two deer with serria 55 gr psp I had two deer down with neck shots in 7 seconds with my 22 -250. I enjoyed your video. nanna and papa wishing you well
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Thank you sir!
@keithrichardson4333
@keithrichardson4333 2 жыл бұрын
Not surprised the 855s shot the best. It's kinda that in between twist rate. Though, sometimes that doesn't even make as much of a difference as the specific anmo manufacturer. You could have done this out of that rifles twinn and gotten different groups. It would be neat to see this test from a 1:7 and 1:9 twist. However that could be expensive. Awesome video.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. I don't know if I have any 1:9's I'll have to have a look.👍
@shanepitzer4126
@shanepitzer4126 2 жыл бұрын
Nice test, thanks for sharing! I would guess the 75gr is not key-holing, but may appear so because it's not hitting flat paper, but that oblique angle of the plate. Looking at the bullet holes in the wood behind the plate might tell the true story.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think it was just the edge of the plate causing it. Holes in the wood looked pretty round.
@chrismcneese4901
@chrismcneese4901 2 жыл бұрын
In my 16 inch with 1n8 twist 62 grain has been spot on.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
This one definitely likes em.
@ronaldbarnes8302
@ronaldbarnes8302 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty decent shooting, not bad groups from an ar. Surprised the m855 shot so good. I figured it would be one of the match bullets. Thanks for sharing!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. Thank you sir.
@Gmar69
@Gmar69 Жыл бұрын
Each of this ammunition has its own intended use. The M193 is good for anti personnel. It tumbles when contacting personnel with not too much over penetration. The M855 Green Tip is meant for breaching barriers to contact personnel with good results. The 75 and 77 grain ammo is very accurate for extended distances with great stability.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@sombra6153
@sombra6153 7 ай бұрын
I got the best group ever thru a 14.5 P&W 1-9 heavy barrel and Hornaday 55 grain V-Max (.60). I was surprised as I was expecting some Hornady Black 75 grain BTHP to be the tack driver. Same platform gave me average sized groups of 1.5 or so with assortments of 62 grain and surprisingly precise shot placement on small steels at 500M with 30+ Israeli surplus M193. So different guns like different ammo. I’d say that Ruger likes the M855.
@chretired
@chretired 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really fun VIDEO Tools, liked the shout out to WTW. I was surprised at the results of the green tip. Although any group less than 1" at 100 yards is really good shooting. Wonder how you'd do with a 12 or 16 power scope. Thank for the video and your time & effort Tools. I look forward to each and every video. Usually learn a lot more than I thought I would just by reading the title. Be safe and ever vigilant.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother. I could probably tighten them up nicely with some more zooms. I actually have some nice scopes on the way that are gonna need some testing.😎
@MidwesternOutdoors01
@MidwesternOutdoors01 2 жыл бұрын
Yessir been waiting on an AR video, I’ve got a few new ones myself and I’ve been waiting to see ya do some testing. (Plus MOST of America is looking up videos about this platform and calibers so it’ll be great exposure for the channel) my absolute favorite channel on KZbin 👌🏻❤️🎉
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that, brother!
@craigduffey7825
@craigduffey7825 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you did this AR test been waiting for a good accuracy test thanks for all the time you spend making these videos would like to see the 223 rounds as well
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Got a .223 one coming soon. Appreciate you!
@justinappling614
@justinappling614 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this video!! I have all of these rounds and have tested none of them. So it was really cool to see how they did. My gun is a 16” with a 1/7 twist so I wander how it would do with the heavier stuff vs. the lighter stuff based on your results. You have inspired me to get mine out to the range and try the variety that I have on hand. Kind of been saving it for a rainy day if you know what I mean. But at this point curiosity has gotten the better of me.
@frawdulent
@frawdulent 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not the grains (or weight) that matters. It’s the actual length of the projectile.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely wanna do some more with a 16" 1:7 barrel.
@Wildwestwrangler
@Wildwestwrangler 8 күн бұрын
​@@frawdulentit's both.
@kimness7796
@kimness7796 Жыл бұрын
Another good video! I'd suggest repeating this test with 5 shots each. BTW the Federal Gold Medal Match ammo that always worked was 68 gr BTHP with 25.4 grains of Win 748 powder. I've loaded lots of that.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!😎👍
@stephenmartin9393
@stephenmartin9393 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, it seems that the Win 855 is the most accurate. I have 3 rifles with the 1:8 twist but they have 16 inch barrels. The 75 gr bullet does appear to be starting to keyhole and at a further distance it would have keyholed enough to hit the target sideways or not at all
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Looks that way to me.😎👍
@thebigokie6.4_392
@thebigokie6.4_392 2 жыл бұрын
1:7 twist rate is best for anything heavier than 62-68 gr. Green tip is usually inaccurate because of the steel core.
@stephenmartin9393
@stephenmartin9393 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebigokie6.4_392 That makes sense as the military went with the 62 grain green tip, steel core and uses the faster twisting 1: 7 but supposedly there is a faster barrel burn out. The steel core would have to be perfectly set in the lead projectile or the bullet would be offset and the entire bullet could keyhole
@dannygreen5878
@dannygreen5878 Жыл бұрын
I doubt it's keyholeing at 100yrds. Unless you have crappy rifling or shooting long ranges, it shouldn't happen. Due to the long length of the bullet it will tumble pretty easy when it hits the target. It's pretty nasty on deer.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
@@dannygreen5878 Yeah, after looking closer at the wood behind the plate I don't think they were. Probably just the curve where they were hitting the plate causing a jagged hole.
@noahmercy-mann4323
@noahmercy-mann4323 2 жыл бұрын
Nice test, brother. I've seen some very fine groups from 62-69 grain bullets from a wide variety of AR-pattern rifles...seems top be the sweet spot for most. My go-to for accuracy is a handload with 69 grain Nosler Custom Competition HPBTs. I recently bought an adjustable-objecive scope with a lot more magnification than I usually use and mounted it in some good quality quick-detach Picatinny rings so I can swap it onto different firearms specifically for load testing. Then I go back to my usual optic or open sights, but at least know what the absolute accuracy potential is.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea. I have some optics coming that I'm gonna need to test. I might set one up for testing ammo.
@grb876
@grb876 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Nice to see group testing with different ammo. If you can get your hands on some, try Winchester silvertip 223 64 gr.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I actually do have some of those. Planning on doing a gel test with em soon.😎👍
@haroldhatcher1239
@haroldhatcher1239 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know much about the AR platform even though I have one. All rounds are well within minute of man. Very good performance in my opinion. Thank You for another great video Tools.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, They would definitely get the job done. Thank you sir!
@FranciscoTrevino
@FranciscoTrevino 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely I like accuracy videos, and you kept it quick and to the point. So pretty awesome. One I would like to see is the 350 legend.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking today that I need to do one with the .350 legend. I have tons of different ammo.
@jeffray6197
@jeffray6197 2 жыл бұрын
Love your accuracy testing! I only use the Winchester 855 green tip, so I was glad to see that you had great consistency with them as well!! Thank you my friend! Looking forward to more of your videos! They make my day for sure!! Stay safe!!🇺🇸👍🏻
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that, brother!😎👊
@Dennisthemenace40
@Dennisthemenace40 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had similar results with the M193 and M855. With the Hornady Frontier, my results were better but the load was a 223 55 gr BTHP. That was out of a 16” 1:7 twist barrel. I haven’t had an opportunity to try anything heavier yet.
@c.m.b.4868
@c.m.b.4868 2 жыл бұрын
I've got 500 rounds of the 68 grain Frontier coming in later this week. Your results give me some hope that this wasn't a waste of my money. Of course my rifle (1:7 twist) and my abilities do not necessarily equal the next guys...or girls rifle or abilities.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I think they're a good choice for sure.😎👍
@jasonsierchio1167
@jasonsierchio1167 2 күн бұрын
I googled Ruger MPR and it's a 1/8 twist barrel, that's why the heavier weights weren't as accurate, they're meant to perform best w/ a 1/7 twist
@tommyofthehillpeople
@tommyofthehillpeople 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting the same as you. A bit surprised at the M855 doing better. The precision was good. Now lets talk about that accuracy. 👀 🤣 Next video to be a rezero of the scope? Great video, Tools.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I zero'd this with some .223 if I remember correctly. Thank you sir.
@lorenfuchek105
@lorenfuchek105 10 ай бұрын
It's not necessarily one is more accurate over the other. Different barrels like different rounds. It means your particular gun likes one over the others. With a different gun your results may be completely different. Love your videos. Thank you for the awesome content. Looking forward to many more videos.
@gorillamotors
@gorillamotors 5 ай бұрын
Very very true. And you can probably through that first shot out as it was a cold bore shot anyway.
@robkober1250
@robkober1250 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Your test has confirmed my results as well from 3 barrel lengths of Colt M4 variations. The 855 surprised me at 100 yards with MOA capabilities vs. the 193. I haven't tried at further ranges yet. All 1 in 7 twist barrels suppressed. Point of impact between the two though was negligible.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍 Good to know that good ol 855 is as accurate as most people will ever need.
@brianskiles2660
@brianskiles2660 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome results I’m going to be deer hunting with my ruger mpr this year. Thx for the results
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!💥🦌💥
@GlennCJudah
@GlennCJudah 2 жыл бұрын
Nice info ! Thanks for all you do !
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate that!
@earlmorrison8163
@earlmorrison8163 2 жыл бұрын
Great data !! Thanks for the tests !!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you checkin it out!
@michaelmiller4568
@michaelmiller4568 2 жыл бұрын
I love the frontier stuff and also the green tips. Pmc makes some good green tips too. I use a 16 barrel1/7 twist
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is sighted in with PMC .223 if I remember correct. Probably why it was hitting high with these.
@michaelmiller4568
@michaelmiller4568 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets yeah that makes sense big difference between the two especially the pic 223 and the Winchester556 green tips. I've seen it with mine.
@scarifrougeone7225
@scarifrougeone7225 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Tools! My pick was the 68gr. Match Frontier. But very good variety of ammo tested. The 855 was a surprise. As far as your accuracy test keep on keeping on brother good stuff. Appreciate your dedication and honest commentary. Stay safe and have a good week my friend.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👍
@scarifrougeone7225
@scarifrougeone7225 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets Good morning. I forget to mention how my AR is shooting. It has a 1:7 twist and I did a 36 yard zero the Federal TRU 223 55gr. psp and was very accurate. The 4-shot group was at 0.55”. Just wanted let you know how that Federal ammo grouped. Have a good day. Be safe.
@ronaldperkins4222
@ronaldperkins4222 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same model MPR as yours but mine prefers the 55gr M193. About 0.3" tighter groups on average than M855. Fed 62gr FMJ also does well. That said, any of them will do the job if you do yours. The polymer tipped projectiles perform exceptionally well, including the lightweight 45gr V-MAX for varmints.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I'm definitely gonna try out some more rounds.
@nhwnhw02
@nhwnhw02 Жыл бұрын
Have done almost the same thing with 1:8 Springfield Armory Saint Edge. The M855 shot surprisingly well. The best for me was Frontier 55gr boat tail match hollow points. Using a 1:7 twist rifle, IMI 77 gr OTM was awesome. They ain't cheap but are very accurate.
@jaredevildog6343
@jaredevildog6343 Жыл бұрын
So cool ! Your targets here are like most of mine. Nothing fancy, just something to put holes in ! Once again, thanks for the great and enjoyable video. Take care brother!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@workout1520
@workout1520 Жыл бұрын
Frontier 5.56 55 grain HP Match loaded in my AR 15 Mag's are my current "go-to" for Home Defense. I also have the Winchester 62gr Green Tips when over-penetration is the goal. At the Range, I've been slumming with Wolf .223 55Gr FMJ. I'm no Daniel Boone, but the Frontier goes where I point it. It's running through a 16" Barrel, 1/9 Twist.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
It'll do the job for sure.😎👍
@traillesstravelled7901
@traillesstravelled7901 2 жыл бұрын
Think it depends on the rifle. This exact test is the next one for me, next time at the range. Thanks for giving me something to compare with, as I just got an 18"1-8.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!😎👍
@marcthomas2482
@marcthomas2482 2 жыл бұрын
Love the accuracy tests! Big thanks to Bill! Always interesting!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👊
@Donald_R_DeCicco
@Donald_R_DeCicco 2 жыл бұрын
Im happy to see how well the M855 did. Nice when a regular ole runna the mill load can hang with the rest. Preciate ya tests sir
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised me.😎👍
@jamespollard1670
@jamespollard1670 2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed that my 5.56 AR will even shoot the cheap steel case ammo at under 2 inch . The stuff it really likes at close to 1/2 inch . So all and all , about anything I throw in it will get the job done .
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I think any of it will do the trick through these rifles.😎👍
@wayneswofford3547
@wayneswofford3547 5 ай бұрын
My experience with M855 is that it depends on the supplier. I have one batch of Indian made ammo that does easily a 6" or greater group. (I just use it now for short range practice.) The best I've gotten my hands on has been PMC brand M855. My best groups were with 62 gr Hornady BTHP Match, sub MOA, but they discontinued that (of course). I have shot 68gr BTHP Match .223 that tends to deliver about 1.5 " groups. Not had a chance to shoot the 68gr 5.56 BTHP Match. Heavier bullets seem to be worse.
@timshelley8635
@timshelley8635 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and good shooting! Agree that the heavier bullets weren't stabilized as well with your twist rate. The whoteewho paper plates worked well!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👊
@Jerry-Parker
@Jerry-Parker 2 жыл бұрын
I have always heard that the green tips were less accurate because of the steel core and the 1:8 twist is actual good for heavy and lightweight. I was thinking 75gr would be the performer. What is the power range of your riflescope ?
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
It's only 1-8. I could definitely dial em in tighter with some more zooms.😎👍
@usmc249
@usmc249 2 жыл бұрын
So we used the m855 in m16A2s that had a 1/7 twist in 20” barrel. So you definitely had interesting results. None of my ARs are set up for accuracy. That’s for the M1A us for.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I've come very close to picking up an M1A my RK has in stock.
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel 2 жыл бұрын
Also to clarify reason I use the m193 and m855 is because my old a2 carbine is a 1/9 it really likes that ammo my new one is a 1/8 side charger I'll see what it likes next
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@bobg.8954
@bobg.8954 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting test. Really enjoyed it. I was surprised!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👊
@dennisharr163
@dennisharr163 2 жыл бұрын
I also have a Ruger AR , 16" about the same results. Great budget rifle, less than 1" MOA, loves 62 grain in the 1:8 twist. My " DMR ". 1-8x LPVO. 10.3" for 200 and in.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely plan to do some more testing with different barrel lengths and twist rates.😎👍
@timrobertson299
@timrobertson299 2 жыл бұрын
I did choose the M855 to be the winner, but I also agree that the weights of the 2 sub moa groups is probably near the optimal bullet weight for your barrel length and twist rate.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, it seemed to like those 60 weights.
@EchoSigma6
@EchoSigma6 2 жыл бұрын
Those are good results, being a senior myself shooting gets to be a bit more challenging as time passes and some rifles prefer certain bullets.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. Appreciate you checkin out the video!
@hickboyjusthick698
@hickboyjusthick698 Жыл бұрын
I do like some accuracy testing. Before I buy ammo, I always check to see if you have reviewed them. I cant believe I have missed so many of your videos.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that. I have a little over 600 videos uploaded now, but some of the older ones aren't too great.😆😆😆
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel
@joemorganeatmyshortschannel 2 жыл бұрын
I use alot of frontier m193 seems good their 223 loading I found is near identical but I have either m193 or m855 in magazines match ammo might be a benefit for some things but not for stocking for emergency use least on my budget
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. They sure didn't seem like much benefit here.
@JR15A2
@JR15A2 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting test. I don't think I've seen the M855 group that well in all my years. That Frontier Match is good stuff for what it costs. I have tons of it in both weights, and it shoots sub-MOA in the rifles I have that are capable of it. They're all 1/7 twist, though.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised by the 855.
@davidabernathy4553
@davidabernathy4553 2 жыл бұрын
Well now this was a interesting video and very interesting results. I never thought you had a fast enough riflings to stabilize at 75 grain bullet, you probably needed at least a one and seven rate of twist. You probably could benefit from a scope on that AR with a little bit more magnification at that distance.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely need more zooms.😎👍
@SW-ii5gg
@SW-ii5gg 2 жыл бұрын
75 needs at least 1 in 9 , 77 needs 1 in 8.
@calangel
@calangel Жыл бұрын
You can stabilize a 80.5 berger fullbore with 1:8, so a 75gr BTHP will definitely stabilize.
@frawdulent
@frawdulent 2 жыл бұрын
It isn’t the grains that makes the bullets unstable in a certain twist rate. It’s the length of the projectile.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@brianbay3229
@brianbay3229 2 жыл бұрын
With your rifle being a 1:8 twist, the 62gr green tips are probably going to be the best performance out of that barrel. If you had a 1:7 twist barrel, then the 77gr ones would likely perform the best and the 55gr would be best out of a 1:9 or 1:10 twist barrel.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Right on.😎👍
@joebob4609
@joebob4609 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve got the same gun. And mine shots the frontier 75 grain at ~.9 inches with 5 shot groups. I’ll have to try some of the 68 grain.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Nice.😎👍
@robertharing7031
@robertharing7031 2 жыл бұрын
I have all of the ammo above and I’m tickled on how well the green tips did. My rifle is a one in seven and my results are usually faveriing the heavier grains
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
This one definitely likes the green tips.
@christrong3046
@christrong3046 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review!! I do like the Frontier ammo. It shoots very good out of my CVA Optima.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@hawk76richhawkins92
@hawk76richhawkins92 2 жыл бұрын
That was a really fun video , with who tee who's targets lol . nice video Tools . the m193 was my first guess . I was wrong .
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised my the 855. Appreciate you, brother!
@brians2733
@brians2733 2 жыл бұрын
I have both a 1:9 twist (62 grain is the heaviest I shoot out of it) and a 1:8 twist (69 grain is the heaviest I use for it). I have tried the Frontier 68 grain and have had similar results (okay but not memorable). I would be really interested to see some Black Hills match ammo, that accuracy is pretty notorious.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely wanna test out some more with different twist rates.😎👍
@jaymanvegas8282
@jaymanvegas8282 Жыл бұрын
I have a Ruger 18” 556 as well. Same rifle. The barrel is CHF beautiful rifle.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yessir. It's a great shooter.
@yuvgotubekidding
@yuvgotubekidding 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t even begin to guess which is most accurate. I do have the white box rounds in each of those grain weights and the Frontier in 55 gr. Haven’t tried them. Closest range to me only allows shooting frangible crap indoors. This is why your channel is important to me, so I get to see real results. Hoo_Tee_Tools 😄👍🇺🇸👊
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@johnmikel5934
@johnmikel5934 Жыл бұрын
Use a card stock circle stencil and cheap black, red (or color of your choice) paint to make the target plates
@dragonusmc0311
@dragonusmc0311 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the long range accuracy work.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👊
@mtower235
@mtower235 2 жыл бұрын
Every rifle is different. That’s why it’s important to do your own grouping and sighting in. Different tales will be told at the 4-500yd too.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@fabs9055
@fabs9055 2 жыл бұрын
Now we’re talkin! 👍🏼
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I have a few scopes on the way to mount up and test so should be some good stuff coming.😎👍
@lukehansen1023
@lukehansen1023 2 жыл бұрын
Could you try out of a 16" length rifle with 1:7 twist?
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I've already done the next one with this same 18" but I'll bump it down to a 16" 1:7 for the next ones and some gel testing.
@Adam-nv9zo
@Adam-nv9zo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets man you're awesome. That's exactly what I wanted also.
@armedpreacher
@armedpreacher 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets can’t wait for that jelly testing! Any 5.56 round is nasty nasty
@hoffpbass
@hoffpbass 2 жыл бұрын
Would be cool to see with the same ammo. Would see the difference in rifle and twist rate.
@AliasFilter
@AliasFilter Жыл бұрын
nice. i just bought some frontier match 68gr and 77gr to try in my 20in 1:8 wylde gun and then i run into this. its sub MOA with the 62gr Norma ss109 ive been using lately. I'll see how it goes
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Nice. I actually just put together a 20" .223 wylde to test with.😎👍
@dt3852
@dt3852 2 жыл бұрын
Great test! 1:8 twist is best for 62 grains bullet, 1:9 twist best for 50 grains to 55 grains bullet, 1:7 twist best for 69 grains up
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. 1:8
@jeffreyrobertson7652
@jeffreyrobertson7652 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video Tools enjoy all your videos Stay Safe Stay 2A Strong 🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👊
@MATTP545
@MATTP545 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see this with a wider range of ammo and removing the unknowns and variables with increased visibility. All in all though when it comes down to it it seems like most ammo that runs through a modern rifle is going to be pretty darn good. Another good video might be twist rates and how it affects the lighter/heavier projectiles
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely plan on doing some more.😎👍
@artillerybuff2000
@artillerybuff2000 11 ай бұрын
Good job, thank you.
@cryswimmer
@cryswimmer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great information.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya sir!
@YellowHammer26
@YellowHammer26 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍Love those wtw paper plate targets. Thanks tools
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
They came in clutch.😆😆😆
@calangel
@calangel Жыл бұрын
The 75gr results were due to hitting the edge of the plate. 1:8 twist can stabilize up to 80gr in some cases (berger fullbores are fully stable). M855 is usually trashy accuracy wise in most barrels. Consider yourself very fortunate that m855 is so accurate for you!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@rubenmundaca945
@rubenmundaca945 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your .223 accuracy test curious to see how those perform. I have shot lately the Norma, Tula and Federal. I've also shot in the past PMC.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you checkin out the vids!
@rubenmundaca945
@rubenmundaca945 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargetsAlways a pleasure giving you a thumbs up on all your vids that I see. We appreciate your content.
@freshfowler1398
@freshfowler1398 2 жыл бұрын
Them 75gr T2's with the cannelure are so nasty in the gel!! Some of my all time favorite bullets for defense or hunting! You gotta try em in the jelly👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I'll have to check em out. I do have a few pretty nasty defensive .223/5.56 rounds I need to test.
@robertreed2300
@robertreed2300 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that test....great job
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.😎👍
@masterofreality230
@masterofreality230 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking at spotting scopes a while back, you can find some good deals these days, forgot all about them though
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I look at em ever so often and never end up buying one. I need to do that.
@mot0rhe4d40
@mot0rhe4d40 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToolsandTargets I wondered into a Bass Pro Redhead spotting scope. Not much more than a shorter version of a kids telescope for looking at the moon lol. But for $50-60 I gave for it. It did the trick for seeing groups at 100-200 yards.
@charlesludwig9173
@charlesludwig9173 Жыл бұрын
Shoot a target which can be scored at 300 yards for most meaningful results. The match 75’s and 77’s will usually rule for a multitude of reasons. A 1/8 twist will easily stabilize these.
@johnpoole8321
@johnpoole8321 2 жыл бұрын
First one I caught in awhile and it was a goody. Nice job Tools. GO GREEN TIP ! LOL
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that, brother!
@n721sw
@n721sw 6 ай бұрын
Excellent vid my good sir!!!
@halfcirclehranch6877
@halfcirclehranch6877 2 жыл бұрын
As far as the .223 goes, I've always gotten the best results with Remington Green & White box 55 grain FMJ's. Of course, that was back when Remington was made by Remington, don't know if the new Remington ammo will stand up to the old. I was really surprised by the good results from the M855, as well as with the poor results with the M193. I thought best to worst would have been the 68 grain, then the M193, then the M855, then the 75 grain.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised at the 193 too. I figured they would do better than the 855.
@charlesmorgan1879
@charlesmorgan1879 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know which would do better as I don't have an AR , yet anyhow, thinking ar10. Gettin all sciencey with "control groups" ya can't see from there ! 🤣, I would have similar issue, my eyes gotten bad last 5yrs. Did you have the WTW trademark in teenie writing on those penny plates !?😅 I'm enjoying the content , Nice work sir !
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆
@scottamy6496
@scottamy6496 Жыл бұрын
That’s some good shooting sir! Great video!
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that.😎👊
@anangryranger
@anangryranger 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this video a bunch. Given the 18" barrel with a 1:8 twist rate, I thought the 62gr would fair pretty well. Didn't surprise me that much. Personally, I've had to abandon optics, both scope and dot. After cataract surgery in both eyes, optic sights are useless to me. Oddly enough, iron sights are just right for my "new" eyes. So my only AR carbine is lighter, and does well nearly box stock. My 22's and leverguns, with stock iron sights are perfect now. Fortunately, I didn't invest too much in the optics so I'm not going to worry about it. Special note: I've always said putting a scope on a levergun is like drawing a moustache on the Mona Lisa! Ha!😆
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I'll probably just get some more zooms on my optics to fix my vision.😆😆😆
@chrispike8879
@chrispike8879 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy ur videos and greatly appreciate the time and knowledge u share with us.🇺🇸
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Appreciate that!
@mattjaxdad8693
@mattjaxdad8693 Жыл бұрын
I seen Primary Arms has a brand new 1 X 10 X 28 with ACSS Reticle!!! Launch price of $449. I think that 28mm vs 24mm that is common might let in more light. Plus the X 10.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that 10x will be very nice.
@timoanez4668
@timoanez4668 Жыл бұрын
I carry Hornady Frontier 75gr BTHP match ammo in my duty rifle, a suppressed AR15 SBR. I use a BA Hanson barrel 10.3, l get crazy sub MOA groups at 100 yards with this ammo. This ammo is my duty ammo and also my home defense ammo, since my rifle has double duty.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Nice😎👊
@dietrichjohnson9556
@dietrichjohnson9556 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the accuracy tests, Kind of like the Jelly testing same weight vs different loads
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely will!
@darkstarninja5978
@darkstarninja5978 2 жыл бұрын
I think i might have to stick to ol iron sights cuz my vision is bad too lol. my right eye is worse than my left eye same as you. even with the lpvo i just got and the swampfox blade, i still need my glasses just to see thru them. great testing there tools. maybe next time make the circle dot on the paper plate a little bolder or more outlined so you can see it further down.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I should have just blacked the whole circle out I think. I won't forget my fancy splatter targets again. I think I need to up the zoom power of my optics!😆😆😆
@keithtate1241
@keithtate1241 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😎👍
@tubbyshvfd9110
@tubbyshvfd9110 2 жыл бұрын
My AR doesn’t like the light varmit rounds or the 62 grain…it’s strange how some guns like one thing and another something different. Love the videos Tools
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@Volkin9
@Volkin9 2 жыл бұрын
The M855 ammo shoots the best out of my M&P10 that has a 16 inch barrel and 1:9 twist
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know.😎👍
@Dwayne7834
@Dwayne7834 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I was thinking the 62-68 grain might give you the best groups.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
It definitely liked em.😎👍
@Strawman333
@Strawman333 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the test.
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 2 жыл бұрын
I would be surprised if the 75 is unstable. They fly fine in 1:8. I had bad groups with LC 193 & great groups with IWI Razor 69 SMK. Out of 2 separate 16" 1:7 carbines. The IWI M855 was really surprisingly very good out of both also. Check your brass with your 68bthp Frontier some time. I was getting ejector burs on most of my brass & all had some type of pressure signs.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that could have just been ragged because it hit the curve of the paper plate.
@deezy2faded
@deezy2faded Жыл бұрын
It also depends on what ammo grain you zeroed your rifle too. I’m shooting tight groups with cheap 55 gr but barely on paper with 75 gr hornady
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets Жыл бұрын
Very true. This was zeroed with some type of PMC If I remember correctly at 50 yards.
@thewiseman6866
@thewiseman6866 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video 👍 👌 Love the custom targets... Need to get some of those lol 😆 🤣😂
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 Thank you sir.
@bradbo3
@bradbo3 2 жыл бұрын
I typically let the barrel cool so I get the same temp for all the types. But yes I was shocked the green tips did so well….cool or hot barrel they arent usually the most accurate stuff….great plinking ammo though.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised me too.😎👍
@LuckyDog350X
@LuckyDog350X 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like the 855s did the best with the 68 grain coming in a close 2nd not too shabby in my opinion. I feel your pain brother my eyesight is not what it used to be either, I'm sure I need glasses and I'm sure it would probably make a world of difference but I'm just too stubborn trying to hold out Lol! Have a good one friend I will see you on the next one.
@ToolsandTargets
@ToolsandTargets 2 жыл бұрын
I'm the same way. If the TV gets too hard to see, I just buy a bigger TV!😆😆😆
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