I've gone on to call KFP 4 the 'Thor: Love and Thunder" of DreamWorks
@No-i-Des5 ай бұрын
That fits way too well.
@thatguyguy37775 ай бұрын
Oh God NO! Do !!NOT!! compare that fucking film to KFP 4!! KFP 4 at least has good momments and some chuckles. Love and thunder is NOTHING but hot garbage from hell that should have NEVER been made!!
@jeffreyquinde67074 ай бұрын
@@thatguyguy3777nah they’re exactly alike. They’re both enjoyable yet fundamentally flawed
@FlameyClockspeed4 ай бұрын
Dang i wanted to watch love and thunder ig not anymore
@No-i-Des4 ай бұрын
@@FlameyClockspeed Well just because I feel that way towards the movie, doesn't mean it should effect how you think of it, I'd love to hear your own opinion on the movie.
@KingJRool.5 ай бұрын
I think the problem is companies are not willing to innovate in any way (with some exceptions) and would rather play it safe because they believe it'll churn out a better profit (Illumination made a fortune just by playing it safe) leading to the same cookie cutter formula for animated movies. Hopefully we get more films in the future that choose to innovate like Toy Story and Spiderverse.
@a.j.medialover5 ай бұрын
☝️This is exactly it!
@KianTheeGreat5 ай бұрын
Joel Crawford is our only hope
@Bukem4534 ай бұрын
That guy is goat
@MrFrigo5 ай бұрын
I remember a critic someone made on a movie with a low budget (Equilibrium): "They said because of the low budget they had bad SFX... But it is the best part of the movie! Nothing bad about it! HOWEVER... there is no excuse for the plot holes and poor scenario!" And i feel like animated movies fall into the same problem. Animation is usually not a problem. Sure you might see a decrease in quality... But come on. Despite its poor animation, Hoodwinked was a very fun movie that many (or at least I) enjoyed. But scenario... I might be wrong, but scenarists are not paid dozens of millions to write a scenario (maybe not paid enough too, but that's for another debate), so there is no budget matters here. There are no excuses for writing lazy movies. Edit: and yes, Star Wars sequels are terrible. (I wish all of the actors involved in those movies to have a brilliant career. You don't desserve the hate of anyone.) Especially the 9th. I didnt even watched it but the plot made it I REFUSED to watch it. It realises the EXPLOIT of disrespecting the whole Georges Lucas saga (do i need to say more?), BUT EVEN ITS OWN SAGA. Most producers don't care the slightest about franchises. It really feels like Excel tabs are pushing their decision. The movies don't respect the fan while not respecting and entertaining the audience. I will say it again: The Super Mario Bros movie is not just successful. In itself, this movie is a MIRACLE regarding the production choices. And.... What a surprised, PEOPLE LOVED IT AND IT MADE TONS OF MONEY.
@FirstClassJunk4 ай бұрын
Good comment mate, and I love hoodwinked!
@joshuaW56215 ай бұрын
Even as someone who likes Kung Fu Panda 4, I’m not gonna deny there is a lot they could have improved with it.
@blackprism53815 ай бұрын
Yes, and no examples are needed Spider-Man across the spider verse that animation that has ambitious and well animated and quite the opposite of lazy don’t get into too much in depth. You have Megamind no not the first Megamind the second Megamind. the animation for the second movie feels well kind of stiff delight not that strong. It feels weak and some people have pointed out. Megamind looks off model putting it out by some people reviews that we’ve heard the right and terrible. The jokes are terrible. Overall, the premise is just terrible. No one likes Megamind too. They feel like it deserves better. That’s the definition and since it’s the worst animated movie. The middle ground is kung fu panda four I don’t like kind of four. When it comes to production, kung fu panda for it left a lot to be desired. Co- Director and people who worked on kung fu panda for flat for some things to be included like a backstory for the chameleon and inclusion of Lord shen and general Kai Mike Mitchell really messed this movie up one the ideas that he had were not that great. It’s very lucky that we got this version of the movie. One never got introduced. Human characters and the chameleon herself was supposed to be like a human character there like concept art so good that they didn’t go through with that. There are many things that were removed from the production like master shifu and tai lung having a final goodbye. The furious five was not gonna be included, but since they heard fan complains, they added them in the last minute of the credits, so yeah, because DreamWorks did not want to pay that much money too, have returned the voice actors to say a couple of lines, also budget has to be taken accounted for since there was only $85 million for production of this movie . if you watch kung fu panda many writing inconsistencies and character regression all right example after the event of the third movie you assume that you would be a little more mature, still have his humor but more mature also for some reason when he was meditating underneath the peach tree Somehow got easily distracted and forgot about inner peace and Master shi fu he feels out of character. He easily gets angry with Po After the things he said which master Shi fu shouldn’t get extremely angry afterwards he’s been showing to be more patient with Po within the previous movies another thing that I hate about kung fu panda four is this whole choosing a new dragon warrior which doesn’t really make sense one this came out of nowhere to why does Po have to be the spiritual leader? Really think about it. He’s 20. He’s young he’s capable of fighting. Why does he have to retire that title because what he got access to the spirit, which is a plate device now. Also the movie ruins po achievements. How did the movie do this? I’ll tell you when po and zhen went to Juniper city who was immediately arrested after telling the bulls that he’s the dragon warrior because the bull said who. After not knowing who is the dragon warrior how did this ruin po achievements? It undermined the achievements that po accomplished defeating tai lung defeating Lord Shen and defeating General Kai all of of these achievements, undermined and treated like nothing nothing. These achievements were very important to po character growth. The chameleons backstory she was too small to learn kung fu so that’s why she’s evil. That’s literally the only reason she’s actually evil.
@Hedgie35 ай бұрын
Just so you know, that so-called "Megamind vs the doom syndakit" film is NOT a sequel to the first movie, it'a pilot episode for the Megamind Rules TV series!!!! Dreamworks contracted Peacock to make it and the show then release them both on that company's own streaming service. That's why it's a low budget film and didn't get a theatrical release. Dreamworks just made the stupid mistake of advertising it too much like a movie, so too many public people are mistaking it to be one when in reality it wasn't made to be a sequel movie.
@MelissaCrawford-r9w5 ай бұрын
Just because we have been getting not so great movies recently that doesn't mean animated movies are getting lazy we're still gonna get good movies eventually like DreamWorks robot movie that's coming soon and inside out 2 doesn't look that bad
@fredbearchannel9765 ай бұрын
I heard someone describe Kung Fu Panda 4 was The Sonic Forces of movies
@zakuraiyadesu4 ай бұрын
Love the videos, man. Keep it up!!!
@FirstClassJunk4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your continued support!
@danielattrell5 ай бұрын
Spider-Man Beyond the Spider Verse will save animated movies
@catpin4 ай бұрын
I think The Super Mario Bros Illumination CGI animated film is lazy.
@Nightlizard15645 ай бұрын
Imo not really. With dreamworks they’ve always had hit or miss projects so that’s really no surprise but lately actually good animated movies are becoming more and more rare to find. Every once in awhile we’ll get a movie like spiderverse, last wish, or del toros pinnochio but nowadays animated movies are either decent, mediocre, or bad sadly.
@This-is-a-commentt5 ай бұрын
Yes and no
@JakeArtist135 ай бұрын
Personally I don’t agree with the take on Pixar, I definitely think it still has its charm even in the newer movies. Obviously just my opinion though.
@lachlanmaheux34083 ай бұрын
5:58 And that's why he's the most EVIL
@Liamking7984Ай бұрын
It does make sense that universal brought dreamworks because disney and universal had a theme park war in the 19s to the 2000s. pixar and dreamworks are also head on head competition with each other disney and pixar are on a side while universal and dreamworks are on a other side atleast universal not harasse dreamworks unlike disney.
@MelodicVortexGaming5 ай бұрын
I was really looking forward to a new instalment. To see it botched like that is saddening, & concerning for the future of Dreamworks
@montanajackson37134 ай бұрын
Beyond the spider-verse will save the industry.
@Golden15theSpongebobfan4 ай бұрын
I have a plush of Master shifu
@MisterPaybackX5 ай бұрын
Btw bro what did you think of the illumination duck movie *holding you at gunpoint*
@Itsishere5 ай бұрын
Good
@IAmTheEagleHTM5 ай бұрын
(Edit) This is exactly I dislike sequels: normally sequels are done for profit alone, they're not art, they're products and exist just for that and vice versa. Yes, they're lazy, exactly because of that. I'd argue it's not art, because art is a reflection of human feelings. (Before editing) Hey fcj, before I watch the full video, I was thinking of a few movies that would be good videos for you to make. Like Flushed Away, the Spy Kids trilogy and SharkBoy and Lavagirl, those are trash, I know, but I have good childhood memories of them lmao
@MrFrigo5 ай бұрын
Shrek was so unique in this case that the 2nd movie was even better 😂
@FirstClassJunk4 ай бұрын
I have ranked Flushed Away which was part of my Dreamworks ranking video! Spy kids 3-d was my endgame as a kid lol. I get so many requests mate but I hope to get round to them some day.
@IAmTheEagleHTM4 ай бұрын
@@FirstClassJunkit's alright, don't push yourself, just thought of some movies that would be fun to hear you talking about
@IkeemFrancis5 ай бұрын
I hated kfp4 because they wanted to kill the entire series on purpose and all the other Animated movies I saw at the theater except for the Garfield movie FIGHT ME😡😡😡😡😡😡
@gaminggoof15425 ай бұрын
Hold up! Shrek 5?!
@superplush99874 ай бұрын
kung fu panda 4 was just as funny as the other ones, but the jokes and story had nothing to do with each other and had no real emotion, making it bad. You can remove the chameleon and nothing would've changed since she is barely even relevant to the story (Also how come she didn't get accepted in kung fu because she was "too short" even though mantis was accepted.)
@abelzatyko15135 ай бұрын
Man great vid but you've got to work on your cadence. Do not stop and slow down at the end of every single sentence, let it flow. Especially with that vocal fry, it gets sooo distracting.
@FirstClassJunk4 ай бұрын
I find it very hard to do that, I'll try and work on it in the future but I understand that its a big issue lol. Sorry
@thadmaster75 ай бұрын
If this video was suppose to be about how animated films are becoming lazy, yet most of this video is talking about Kung Fu Panda 4. There's also the fact that you claim Pixar only cares about making films for babies nowadays and you barely elaborate. Not a great video.
@FirstClassJunk4 ай бұрын
Mate I think it's very justified and appropriate to have the title as such when I am talking about the decline of one of the biggest animation franchises ever. It fits right into what heavily caused this decline (Illumination, as their parent company also owns Dreamworks now). It shows just how little mainstream animated films are trying nowadays. Sure, I could have elaborated a bit more on Pixar. Maybe I'll do a video on that topic. For me, the stark difference in their quality from the original days to now is crystal clear. The quality of writing is the issue.
@thadmaster74 ай бұрын
Doesent change the fact that there are still multiple much better American animated films these days that you refused to bring up. This video should have just been souley about Kung Fu Panda 4, and not the animation industry as a whole. Also you claim that Pixar only cares about appealing to kids when there are millions of adults praising there recent works.
@FirstClassJunk4 ай бұрын
@@thadmaster7 It was mainly about mainstream animated films. There are plenty of indie animated films that are amazing. Robert Dreams is a recent one that comes to mind. But lets be real the landscape of mainstream animated films is pretty dire. It's a far shot from the 2000's. Yes you will find fans of pretty much any movie ever released. Of course some adults will like a pixar film. Some people even try to defend the illumination films. A lot of them. Some people even like kfp4. That's fair enough, but I want to give my own opinion. I hold these companies in such high regard that It's important to call them out on it.
@thadmaster74 ай бұрын
@@FirstClassJunk I'm not saying western animation isn't in the shutter right now, but my main point is that if you wanted to talk about it, you should have dedicated the video to multiple recent animated films, and not just the one.
@FirstClassJunk4 ай бұрын
@@thadmaster7 I could just make this part of a series or something. It's really not that deep bro. Sorry that you thought the video was bad.
@scottriddell35145 ай бұрын
I don’t think the movie was bad in my opinion it was just a change of phase
@Corridor58Studios4 ай бұрын
Dreamworks is incosistent and the garfield movie is a garfield movie