Are Atheists Afraid To Just Open the Bible? | Carlos - CA | Talk Heathen 04.13

[@jeffreybird6202]

I am not a highly educated man. My formal education only reached the 9th grade, but when I listen to people like Carlos, I feel like a GENIUS.

[@CaliberStone]

Sometimes being intellectually curious is more valuable than formal education. I've seen plenty of well-educated individuals who held some very unfounded beliefs.

[@j.dragon651]

If you can think outside the box you are way ahead of the game. You have eaten of the fruit of the tree of knowledge and now you are free.

[@pollypockets508]

I understand

[@alexsdemkin]

I hope you get a GED and go to college. Best wishes

[@H.hipster]

You sir is as close to being a genius as any other person 🙂

[@AngryBoozer]

When I was little, Lord of the Rings taught me the value of loyalty, responsibility, caurage and much more. The bible taught me to be afraid. To ALWAYS be afraid. And ashamed.

[@whispersmith]

Having grown up without a father figure, I based a lot of my aspiration for how to be masculine on Aragorn :P

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

I hold that both Tolkien and J.K. Rowling wrote stuff about good and evil that is far clearer and correct than either the Christian Bible or anything I know of the Qur'an.

[@tylermcneeley3136]

Ya might wanna rethink that about JK Rowling

[@greeneyedlady5580]

​@@tylermcneeley3136 It is possible to appreciate her writing, and the world she created, while also acknowledging that Rowling is an extremely bigoted transphobe.

[@cshubs]

I had a college English prof ca 1990 whom knew Tolkien. I bet the other side can't say that about the people who wrote, compiled, and approved the Bible! 🙂

[@cherryfox4197]

I love how Carlos accuses them of speaking disrespectfully when he can't listen respectfully.

[@TravisW888]

Absolutely! So many times in the call he wasn’t truly listening to what the hosts were saying, and a couple times even had to ask for them to say it again after they called him out. I think he just wanted his fifteen mins to speak to the audience, not have an actual conversation.

[@mattjanzen2344]

It's an equivocation of the term "respect". Many are taught that "respect" simply means not raising your voice or using "foul language" or even disagreeing with what a person is saying. In actuality, real respect includes giving considerate thought and generous interpretation to your interlocutor (and, I'd argue, calling them out when they fail to reciprocate, as it devalues the conversation)

[@darrylperry9645]

Carlos says that he's treating them respectfully, but then he turns around and gaslights them because he infers that they don't know where they came from.

[@Arkloyd]

I think carlos was listening as dutifully as he can. It's not the fault of his ears that he couldn't answer the questions of the host. It was the fault of what's between those ears.

[@ayethein7681]

It's terrible hard work when the mindset is so different. The Hosts know none of the stuff Carlos has is real evidence and Carlos thinks it is.

[@Kalopsia666]

“Why should I open the Bible?” “Please don’t curse at me” That was one of the most confusing responses I have ever heard in any conversation in my life.

[@stobe187]

"why" is a curse word for Carlos

[@Re-PhantomZero]

​@@stobe187 😂🤣

[@MatthewShoemaker-c7o]

Just painful 🥺🥺🥺🥺

[@biekgiek]

I think he was already assuming a "victim" mentality.

[@markbriten6999]

Noits very simple it's a shit novel written bye il gets.

[@hmmhmm9017]

I think this guy is missing the point- *WE HAVE OPENED THE BIBLE* *That is why we are atheists*

[@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl]

I did read the Bible and Koran because I wanted to know what they talking about to challenge them, not because I was interested in a god.

[@htcmlcrip]

@@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl I read both just as any other tales. Not even to debate. Lil kids believe in Santa claus I read few books about him too

[@loveandfaithfulness4479]

2 corinthians 5:17 “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!” I once was full of doubts, didn't want to believe, These are some of the things that have changed in my life since I accepted Christ as my savior. I realised the very life I have is given to me by God himself. I knew that God was in control of my life. I knew that I can trust him with my future and that he was guiding me. I didn’t have to tread through life alone; I have the Creator of the universe by my side. when I put my faith "in Christ" I have became something I was not before. My identity changed from being the fallen version of myself, to being associated with the righteousness of Christ. my life was no longer worldly; is now spiritual. My long-time bad habits that I had tried to give up over a long period of time. I had pretty much accepted that "that's just the way I am", and had just about given up on correcting them, ceased to exist. After I asked Jesus Christ to help me out, my life began changing, unexpectedly, dramatically. All my old dreams and ideas and agendas and purposes were gone and have been replaced by Christ's ideas and agendas and purposes. My old nature-natural pride, love of sin, and my former opinions, habits and passions was replaced with new things, full of life and the glory of God. I became humble and I was being sanctified (made holy) day by day, sinning less and hating it more each time I fail. This is all my evidence, I received peace come to my heart, a miracle after a miracle occurred in my life: The Bible - God's word, I noticed after I received Christ was that I began to have i was unable to explain the desire to read the Bible. I couldn't stop reading. I knew that God was in control of my life. Each day is filled with finding out something new about God through reading the Bible. I stopped smoking, drinking, gambling and no more crazy parties.. And I also noticed that I had been given a deep love for everyone (including people I've never even met). My uncontrolled anger was gone..... I didn't really think at that time that there was so much wrong with lust, but that was now gone too and much more. But the most dramatic difference of all -- one I was not expecting when I prayed continually is my love for God. I have heard the commandment to "love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind soul and strength" but I'll tell you that I never really followed that before. I kind of believed and hoped in God, but God was not on my first priority list before. Now, He's number One. And it was after that I really now learned to love my neighbors second as myself. I pray to God every day, I read His Word every day, and it's rare that an hour goes by that I don't think of Him. and this is all God's Grace. The only way that you can know for sure, is to have faith in God and let God show you. God needs us to just have a little faith, Just have enough faith to pray to Him for forgiveness of your sins and to trust Jesus for your salvation. Continue praying. Once you do, the Holy Spirit will give you all the "proof" you ever needed! Mark 5:19 And he did not permit him but said to him, “Go home to your friends and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and how he has had mercy on you.” A heart that is grateful is overflowing and cannot be silent. It yearns to share with others, to carry the gratefulness and thankfulness within. Now I’m learning to give reasoned answers to people for the hope that I have in Jesus and as I do so I’m also learning that there are answers to people’s questions, even if I don’t know the answers myself. God has all the answers and with God nothing is impossible. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. That's what happened to me, and I got the greatest surprise and the greatest gift of my life. May God bless you!

[@htcmlcrip]

@@loveandfaithfulness4479 didnt want to believe? Lmao sounds like apologetic. I couldnt care less wether I believe or not. It's not how it works. Either its true or not.. it isnt. That simple. Facts and reality by my best understanding indicates it's a mythology nnot the truth.

[@loveandfaithfulness4479]

@@htcmlcrip God loves you and wants you to experience the peace and life He offers. 2 Corinthians 4:18 "So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. we are made in "the image of God" so life without God is life entirely lacking God's Spirit, which then is to live in the absence of the fullness of life, since God is "life and life eternal. We get to enjoy God’s goodness here on the earth, even if we don’t acknowledge Him. If we deny Him, we don’t get to enjoy His goodness after this life. Those who understand hell best, those who grasp it most deeply, are those with the greatest sense that they deserve to be there. John 14:6 "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

[@uncleanunicorn4571]

Carlos: "you're just not open to the bible." Eric: "Are you open to evidence you might be wrong." Carlos: "Absolutely not."

[@deanmartin1111]

And theeeeere's the problem right there.

[@Damaged262]

“I might be stupid, but I’m never wrong” says the Bible thumper....

[@Damaged262]

Wait, why the fuck should I think for myself when an archaic book can do all my thinking well before the real universe was found?

[@littlewingmyoho]

I just read the Bible and honestly I was kinda horrified. Just the amount of baby animals cooked so as to pleasure their god who love the smell 😶was awful.They traveled around carrying the bbq from Nation to Nation.The meat always thrown away as it was for god.

[@wynlewis5357]

@@littlewingmyoho That's nothing ! Jeremiah 19.9 God warns people if they fall from the law, they will have to eat their own children. What a great book to live your life by and what a wonderful loving God he is.

[@darrylelam256]

"Can you read a book that we both agree is fiction and find truth in it?" "I don't believe the bible is fiction." Epic fail in listening to what is being said.

[@shanehull6235]

And not the only example 🤦🏻‍♂️ the hosts are definitely more patient than I am

[@duffblimp9888]

Not only that, but he said that after being asked this question twice. On the third time of asking, he still didn't comprehend what the hosts were asking him. It's not just this person, but it seems that there is an abundance of these people that don't hear, or rather, choose not to hear.

[@Nickodemo1st]

Not even a fail because he wasnt trying to listen, the man was there to preach not to truly discuss.

[@Anubis424242]

@Josef H. I know the feeling. When I first left Christianity, I liked watching the Atheist Experience, but I thought Matt was an asshole. When I got into arguments with Christians for the first time and became frustrated, THEN I understood why Matt reacted the way that he did. I was like, "Okay, now I get it."

[@darrylelam256]

@Josef H. A man can only take so much ignorance before "SHUT THE FUCK UP!"

[@MalchikJack]

Carlos: "The bible is 100% true and a guide to life. Let's read a verse." Also Carlos: "I don't want to talk about slavery."

[@LOwens-xf8yo]

I was hoping when he asked them to pick a verse they would pick Leviticus 25:44-46! Tell us again how great god is while reading his instructions for owning people.

[@JamesMcCutcheon]

God is a joke to humanity and an evil mean vicious god at that, too bad you will never have any morals. @@LOwens-xf8yo

[@78musiksphere]

😂😂

[@sterilustra]

It would be hilarious if they opened it to the chapter where god kills a man for jizzing on the floor and wasting his "seed", or the part where he commands a prophet to cook his meals on fire made out of his own shit XDDDD

[@Sharon-fw9qw]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@romankvapil9184]

Watching this again, Carlos didn't call in to argue or debate. He came to preach.

[@heinshaaine8153]

Of course he did... He wanted to do a bible study group on the internet

[@CronoXpono]

@@heinshaaine8153 It legit boggles the mind when folks don't see how condescending it is to say that YOU are the only person who has got it right lol. Wowza.

[@creativewriter3887]

Most of those theists do and then claim "Immma victim.. Immm being persecuted". They want a pulpit.

[@adamarlem9863]

@@heinshaaine8153 yes,think this is practice for pastors or teachers.

[@jerryoconnor4572]

Yup 👍👍👍

[@Catofminerva]

This is like playing chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory.

[@rioreason]

A.S.M LMAO I’ve never heard anything like that - that’s funny as shit.

[@juseschrustfush]

Is that not how to win at chess?

[@finnalbert3418]

LMAO I love this comment.

[@coolcatcass10]

This is pretty accurate actually lol

[@tommystyx]

No, this is more like you are done playing chess with the pigeon and now are playing chess with the crap the pigeon left behind.

[@gravitywaves2796]

“The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible.” -Mark Twain

[@earlofdoncaster5018]

The Bible is a total fucking horror show and should not be read by mentally vulnerable people.

[@dariusga6752]

"It is difficult to win an arguments against an intelligent person, but it is impossible to win an argument against an idiot, atheist"

[@gravitywaves2796]

@@dariusga6752 If I understand you correctly, and my apologies if I'm wrong, rather than engage with your comment I will leave you with another quote that perfectly sums up my sentiment from the immortal Mark Twain: “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience".

[@abc456f]

@@dariusga6752 it's easier to fool a man than convince him he's being fooled. You've been fooled.

[@seanjones2456]

@@dariusga6752 The bible is 100% accurate! Especially when thrown from close range. :)

[@jo_b7405]

Carlos just strengthened being an atheist over and over again for me.

[@BUGHUNTER6]

This Carlos going "my friend, my friend, I care for you guys" is the most disingenuous, condescending crap I've ever heard

[@blu3collar949]

Yep. And yet he can only hear himself talk. He doesn't hear a word or understand anything these guys are trying to tell him.

[@dominicantrex9815]

My freeend, lol

[@chrissolfromatoz5928]

All they do is make baseless assertions. Carlos himself admitted that you need to take the gumballs out of the jar and actually count them to verify.

[@jimbojet8728]

Jesse O. Carlos is an ignorant turd!

[@cgrdreamer]

I don't think people are ignorant for believing in god. I think is more an indoctrination problem. People are not born with the knowledge of the bible, but they are taught from their childhood that something is true and nothing else. There are people more responsive to that indoctrination and some that are not. I talk to my mother (she's 63 years old, in Spain) and when she was in school, evolution was not taught as truth. It's been only 50 years! I can't imagine how hard it must be for her to understand quantum theory or the concept of an infinity universe born from a single point. That's why I stopped trying to explain it to the her xD. I understood what she feels like. Now I just try to focus on pseudoscience, climate change or vaccines, that I think are important. The point is, our generation is lost, for normal people like most of us. We just have to give a chance to the new generations. Teach them critical thinking with the knowledge of physics, mathematics, etc... Teach them to make their own theories and how to test you models instead of indoctrinate them with books with an easy way out. Make them understand that even if you fail in your theory (nowadays fail is a bad word; I can't imagine how many "failures" Newton had), it's not a problem, because that's how you learn and grow to a better understanding.

[@wsconsn]

Star Trek predicted the cell phone, tablets, and video phones therefore Gene Roddenberry must be god.

[@oldcountryboy]

Captain Kirk Would be In awe Of the communication devices we have now

[@unturbe]

@@oldcountryboy Watched the original Star Trek series on an HD TV and the quality is stunning!

[@thomasmills339]

Star trek predicted none of those. Other sci-fi writer's and non fiction science writers did. And the the idea of the cell has been around for almost 100 years.

[@alicelaybourne1620]

@@thomasmills339 I will take it one step further. They didn't predict anything, they created a framework that others used as their models for design later on.

[@sgt.duke.mc_50]

Comic strip "Dick Tracy" from the 1930's had a 2 way wrist talkie phone.

[@kap1618]

The Simpsons are more prophetic than the bible.

[@rookmaster7502]

At least The Simpsons doesn't pretend to be anything more than entertainment.

[@umachan9286]

Which just goes to show that anything can be prophetic if you look at it in just the right way.

[@RonLarhz]

Ikr ebola, trumptard presidency, farmville, 3eye firsh etcetc.

[@splitpitch]

@@rookmaster7502 the simpsons are entertainment, but they also contain moral lessons and social criticisms. Perhaps the Torah (old testament) was intended as the same thing when it's stories were first handed down. making a narrative out of something makes it more interesting, therefore more memorable. Then the crazy christians come along...

[@jd190d]

@Starfall 21X No,the Simpsons actually give names and other specific information, Nostradamus, like the bible, gives vague references that are only interpreted after events happen that changes in different times. There are zero predictive events that are described before a specific event happens.

[@Jeremy-df1ld]

Carlos checks nearly ever box you'd expect to find in a textbook dishonest interlocutor: Arrogant, petulant, resistant to staying on topic, disinterest in answering direct questions or even in making sure he understands what's being said to him in the first place. Late in the call he even admits to being 100% sure he's right, which we should all know for what it really is: an admission that he's 100% close-minded. It's endlessly depressing that minds like this lack the self awareness to realize how terrible acting like this makes them look.

[@coffeeaka5569]

@jeremy Why don't insults Carlos instead of answer his questions ? 😢

[@Jeremy-df1ld]

@@coffeeaka5569 You replied to a comment made two years ago about a video that was posted four years ago only to complain that a comment you didn't like was about the poor behavior of the caller instead of the contents of their argument. All while ALSO not engaging with any of the points in the call. I wouldn't say I'm 100% certain, but I suspect it's likely some of my previous comment would also apply to you. At least the lack of self awareness bit.

[@coffeeaka5569]

@@Jeremy-df1ld Ok got it

[@cavecookie1]

So, Carlos didn't call to argue. Guess he just wants to preach, and not have to justify anything.

[@davids11131113]

Exactly.

[@christianosminroden7878]

cavecookie1 I sincerely don‘t believe he even understands the difference.

[@cavecookie1]

@@christianosminroden7878 I think you are right. Sadly, this kind of lack of understanding is all too common among theists.

[@stevewebber707]

Considering how he barely even tried to listen or address questions, that seems accurate. I'm guessing he's used to arguments of the type where he makes claims, then someone makes counters which he ignores, or misunderstands. And because he doesn't even understand the conversation, he may walk away thinking his claims came out on top. He did at least make one reasonable claim, that he's unable to fully understand the bible. His lack of willingness to even engage in real conversation was enough to stop me from watching all of it.

[@derekmizer6293]

@Daniel R dont tell theists that. The bible is both the claim and evidence because well... Do u know how the universe came to be? No? Therefore god. God of the Gaps is literally their only argument

[@MasterSpade]

“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” - Isaac Asimov That was true for me.

[@scottcampbell4678]

And the fact that Dr. Asimov is one of the greatest minds to ever exist is even more proof of the statement.

[@mohamedyusuf5141]

Unless there are religions other than Christianity...

[@MasterSpade]

@@mohamedyusuf5141 -- there are tens of thousands of different religions/denominations that all believe that only THEIR "god" is the true one. One of the many things they all have in common -- they are all FAITH Based. That means none of them have any Real Evidence. If any of them did have Real Evidence, they would not need faith, and would therefor not be faith based.

[@mohamedyusuf5141]

@@MasterSpade Yeah but if those irrelevant many were truthful surely their message would have spread far and wide by now. Yet that is not the case. Why is that?

[@mohamedyusuf5141]

@@MasterSpade This is a frustratingly common and arrogant misconception, not all religions are 'faith-based' at all. Science and mathematics are also faith-based to a degree, just like religion. In science you have the theory of evolution, which while yes was based on observable evidence remains only a theory. And not without reason. I can explain further.

[@gabrieljordan8015]

Reading the bible as a kid made me a god - fearing Christian. Whereas reading the bible as an adult made me a science - loving atheist.

[@surfsnow1371]

The road to Atheism is littered by those who have read the bible from cover to cover.

[@greenjelly01]

Very true. But some people just don't grow up, and retain their childhood response.

[@sfprivateer]

Reading the Bible as a kid made me wow! Reading the Bible as an adult makes me laugh and cringe that some adult can actually take that crap seriously.

[@outrageous-alex]

You don't even need to stoop to science to be an atheist. I was one long before I understood science of any kind.

[@whatdidyoujustsay3656]

Religion and god-belief is for the innocent, the uneducated, the misinformed, and the total idiot.

[@richardjones4662]

I was a christian UNTIL I read the bible cover to cover (around 9th grade)... I've been an atheist ever since 40+ years later.

[@bobs182]

My story is much like yours. I was a Christian until I read the Bible in the 7th grade to understand what this "important" book said. I've been a atheist for 60+ years.

[@jeffreywilliams9299]

I was eight, and it was a really weird time for me. Where I realize it was all bs, I also realize that I was surrounded by people who did believe it, but never read it.

[@odraciskatube7725]

@@jeffreywilliams9299 as a dutch variant of you both i would like to preach the gospel of ATHEIST CROM! Crom offers no blessings or boons to his followers. There is no afterlife paradise or power to be gained from his worship. In fact every Cimmerian says Crom does not give a shit about anyone and all that awaits you is the cold mist once you’re dead. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, or why we died. All that matters is that four stood against many. That's what's important! Valor! by breathing the strength and will to survive, to overcome adversity. He expects people to do as best they can, with what little they may have. raise your cups Barbarians tonight we DRINK! :P greets from the netherlands.

[@BrendanishLeo]

"You haven't given us a reason to open the bible" "Because you haven't opened to bible!" These people really don't understand how to argue.

[@tmikeb28]

Nope. Their idea of arguing is to throw anything they can at the wall and hope something sticks.

[@timlenord1]

Matt!!!!!

[@heinshaaine8153]

@@timlenord1 Dont curse at me

[@calvincameron354]

​@@heinshaaine8153 lol

[@heinshaaine8153]

@@calvincameron354 Sometimes you see comments of yourself like relics of the past and you have no idea why you have done something... his is one of these times...

[@wuphat]

"Let's open up the Bible to a verse." "Why should we?" "Don't curse at me." Wat?

[@rickdees251]

Profanity is inevitable due to the intense frustration these theists (bastards) callers inevitably provoke. :-) There IS NO way to have an intellectually honest discussion with a intellectually dishonest person on any topic. It is guaranteed to be very frustrating. It the point of profanity.

[@texassunflower]

Asking a Christian "why" is like cursing at them. They feel offended out the gate when questioned about their beliefs. You're supposed to just nod and agree. That's all they can take without feeling attacked

[@SnakeMan448]

I think that he meant "don't be rude to me". It was a very blunt question that challenged the assumption that the bible is inherently true and imparts wisdom. To Christians who are taught that you can railroad atheists through basic exercises like "bible is true because bible says so" and win, having a flesh and blood atheist shut down the exercise before it can begin looks like rudeness.

[@MrKit9]

@@rickdees251 Profanity is relative.

[@advorak8529]

Michael Just what I might answer to such a crap comment/list: … 5.) Hubris is one of the seven deadly sins. *You* defining what Christians are and what are not, *you* deciding to know better than your own God, that is first-class hubris. Possibly even blasphemy. 6.) Have you ever read the bit about “love your neighbour”? And that ‘who is your neighbour’ and the Samaritan? Why does your behaviour here not seem to fit it?

[@Deris87]

"I've been respectful to you." There's a difference between talking quietly and talking respectfully. He kept trying to goad them and refused to address the points they actually raised. Carlos was incredibly disrespectful.

[@tyranttitanium5721]

Yeah. It's annoying when people don't understand the difference between being respectful and merely speaking in a "respectful tone." I've dealt with people who calmly sidestep what I say and fail to address anything I bring up. Like damn, I guess I may as well just say nothing all.

[@kellyjones8299]

He's only raising his voice to try to stop your very disrespectful constantly interrupting him. When he finally does get his question out. Then you disrespect him by not answering his question. And just spouting off on some weird tangent

[@numberLuan]

The Bible has saved me. One time I ran out of toilet paper at the holiday inn.

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

Just don't wipe to hard, or you end up with psalms on your a.s😂😂

[@Kokyiintx]

@@CyberBeep_kenshi Then you get sackbut

[@briancarton1804]

You used the ' holy bible ' to wipe your ' hole '

[@Viky.A.V.]

that's the only bible-salvation I could believe in =D The other one would be, "I was attacked by a thief and I hit him with the bible" =D

[@flawedgenius]

emergency roach supply

[@michaelshaposhnik4668]

I'm a native Hebrew speaker. Carlos completely screwed up the meanings of the names he mentioned. The set of names would form a meaningless sentence.

[@33melonpaws77]

ty for the insight

[@janwelcastro250]

Now I'm curious. 🤔 What is the sentence in present day translation?

[@michaelshaposhnik4668]

@@janwelcastro250 Adam means "human". Seth means "gave". Anosh means "human" again. Cainan is just a derivative of Cain. Mehalelel means "one who praises god". Yered means "he or it will come or go down". Chanoch derives from the root for teaching or educating but it has no direct meaning. Metushelach doesn't really mean anything but if you really want to twist it might be close to "dead and will send". Lemech doesn't seem to have any meaning. Noach means "comfortable". So basically it's just a list of names that don't really mean anything when combined.

[@nightthornkvala94132]

Why am I not surprised?

[@danielzunigagutierrez6300]

Carlos, knows what Melah' Hala' mean?

[@JayMaverick]

Makes dumb claim. Gets answer other than yes. "Look guys I'm not here to argue or say that I'm right." Yes you are, that's exactly what you did.

[@davids11131113]

AnD DoNT CurSe aT mE!

[@JerryInGeorgia]

Exactly. At 23 minutes and 25 seconds. I commented on this above just now. He followed that up with I'm just here to share the truth. So if he thinks what he saying is true, how can he say say that he's not trying to do prove he's right and say that hes right?

[@derekmizer6293]

Theists are very dishonest

[@tacitblack4732]

@Barthelemy Self-deception is human nature, but when theists extend that to dishonestly trying to get me to share their delusional belief in Z- grade fairy tales, then I have a problem.

[@Frost_Saber]

@Barthelemy Wow! you must've had a lot of practice getting your head so far up your own ass.

[@Natalie_the_Fae]

Eric: is it possible you could be wrong Carlos: No Me: that ladies and gentlemen is what we call Ego

[@davidfitnesstech]

Also, being "brainwashed".

[@nuclearsimian3281]

No, its not ego. Everyone has ego, its unavoidable. What he has, is _conceit._ He is so convinced that he is correct, he is willing to ignore anything to preserve his position. That is narcissism, and it is conceit. "I cannot be wrong" is patently false, it is arrogant, it is dangerous, and you only get there by being so prideful in one's own thoughts and feelings that they cannot be challenged. There is no use for an argument like that.

[@r.dejong9537]

@@nuclearsimian3281 yes! wow how well put into words!!

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

@@nuclearsimian3281 That's a different use of the word 'conceit' from mine. There are things about which I'm conceited that I can do. But I try very hard not to be arrogant, although I may seem so to people who are so stubbornly ignorant that I eventually find it a waste of time talking.

[@calvincameron354]

I could barely get past the first 1:11 when he asked them to open up a Bible I died laughing,then he asked them not to curse I'm like wtf he's already acting like a victim.🤣🤣

[@bubbercakes528]

I was a christian for over 50 years. Reading the bible for myself is what made me become an atheist.

[@bobs182]

Christians read select passages with preconceived notions, never objectively for understanding what is says. As a teenage I was always frustrated by religious leaders giving me answers to questions that seemed to always generate 3 more questions about the strange answers. They simply didn't want any questions and wanted me to just believe.

[@curtisharolson6643]

Me too

[@LOwens-xf8yo]

Reading the story of Jacob, Leah & Rachel did it for me. What an awful story from an awful book!

[@really-america]

Pets not in heaven that killed it for me!

[@SpectrumGamer29]

Same

[@sypherthe297th2]

Trying to preach over the hosts and ignoring inconvenient questions until they've been repeated over and over isn't polite Carlos. People like you can take your dishonest "politeness" and shove it.

[@tripolarmdisorder7696]

It's how they try to wear you down, he almost got it to work too, but he was nearly making progress with the gumball analogy. Too bad he was able to give the whole "I would hate to see you two burn in hell I so miss Jeff Dee, he would have been all over Carlos like scum on pond.

[@MrNateSPF]

They should always ask people like this if liars are allowed into heaven.

[@sypherthe297th2]

@@MrNateSPF You know it's interesting. People (fundamentalist Christian's and Islamophobes in particular) criticize Muslims for the concept of taqiyah while mischaracterizing the hell out of it. There is plenty to criticize in the Islamic faith, its practice, and associated customs but that isn't one of them. On the other hand, those same Christian fundamentalists are so dishonest in trying to "win souls for Jesus" that popular culture has given it a name. "Lyin' for Jesus." And you bet they'll excuse that shit all day longi

[@Marialla.]

@Never-ending party Carlos let Eric talk sometimes too. But he never did listen.

[@expatriate40]

He has no idea about the points the host are making. He's just waiting for his turn to talk.

[@deanlowdon8381]

expatriate40 Isn’t that the same for virtually every theist that calls these shows!?

[@Omerta_1964]

The caller had no clue of syllogism or logic points. He doesn't even know what is straw man is Typical Bible something preacher! Once he said he cannot be wrong that told the story

[@nikopteros1659]

@@deanlowdon8381 not really some are very reasonable and some Who are reasonable manage to utter The words "i Dont know" and sometimes come out as deconverted sometimes they Dont but they are still reasonable then there are The other half of them Who are like Carlos here who are just a train wreck

[@deanlowdon8381]

Nicolas Roman Segura I could count on one hand the number of theists who I’ve ever heard utter the words “ I don’t know”...

[@Omerta_1964]

@@deanlowdon8381 I agree the theist will go to "God did it" or some other unprovable reason before ever uttering "I dont know" which is the most rational thing to say when there is no proof or good evidence for something. They are locked in their own ignorance.

[@obiwanshinobi87]

Trying to prove God with the Bible is like me proving aliens with the war of the world book

[@Valkyrie77]

Lol so true.

[@robvlob]

It's true because it was written by aliens through HG Wells

[@ixion025]

i used stargate as a reference sorry xD

[@Johnmhatheist]

​@@robvlobWe should start a religion

[@ConkerTS]

It's even worse than that. As far as I know, the book The War of Worlds has no internal contradictions. The Bible has many contradictions. How can a book that (it is claimed) is the actual word of God (or at least is heavily influenced by, and is meant to teach and inform us about God and his laws) have even one internal contradiction? If God were real, and the Bible was his Holy text, then surely the Bible would be flawless?

[@roberthobarends1788]

I've read the bible cover to cover, that's why I'm an atheist.

[@jcf072899]

one can read something and not understand it so whats your point

[@TheBox225]

@@jcf072899 lol people can read a book and believe it too.

[@jcf072899]

Dustin Box thats true but whats your point

[@ohiostate4515]

@Robertho Barends I've read the Darwin's book The descent of man cover to cover. That's why I am a Christian. I've read The Communist Manifesto cover to cover. That's why I am a capitalist. See how that works?

[@49perfectss]

Yup yup! Once I finished reading that book it was over. No being that is good or knew how the world works would have inspired such a stupid book lol

[@PassiveSmoking]

Oh dear, you guys tried to play chess with a pigeon.

[@hakureikura9052]

hey, pigeons are more respectable than any religious fundamentalist. apologize to the pigeons.

[@MoodyScorpio]

haKurei kura but birds aren’t real

[@WhatIsThis.WhyDoINeedIt]

Do not insult the pigeons

[@BluePhoenix_]

Carlos thought he played chess, but he didn't play chess. He played chess against himself!

[@BrokenCurtain]

"You're not open to it." ...literally doesn't listen to the hosts throughout the entire debate (unless they're calling him an idiot).

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Religion blocks critical thinking.

[@williamblackstone1122]

Reading the Bible cover to cover 7 times in 3 different versions is WHY I am a militant Atheist. It it so incredibly disturbing that we as a species are so plagued by a majority shrouded in ignorance.

[@nogod7184]

I had been an atheist long before I touched the Christianity's bible the first time. After reading the first page of the first chapter, I laughed. And I laughed even more as I read on. It really scares me that people actually believe in stuff written in that book.

[@jmccann6735]

When people read it you daily from infancy, it seems to make more sense. But once you escape and look back... its horrifying. Maybe thats the strategy. Start em young, because only children could believe such ridiculous fairytales

[@biekgiek]

@@jmccann6735 indoctrination

[@Captain-Cosmo]

Actually, it scares the believers that you don't believe it.

[@timothybrown5999]

@@jmccann6735 this is because the people reading it to you were keeping the nasty and nonsensical verses away from you. Once we are old enough to read it for ourselves we see how unnecessary it is.

[@tinabeard582]

Yes I think that if you are not indoctrinated from a young age and surrounded by believers, the stories just seem ridiculous and over the top.

[@musiqal333]

"Could you be wrong?" "No, I could never be wrong!" And that is the issue with religion. Thinking that what they strongly believe is perfect and can never ever possibly be wrong!

[@musiqal333]

@Bob Rabbins Sye Ten Bruggencate. One of the most dishonest religious apologists ever. "y'all know God exists, y'all just don't want to worship him". "How do you know that?".

[@ibandagirlson1224]

Religion is wrong Christ is the only Truth way and Life Like it or not

[@ibandagirlson1224]

Psalms 14:1-3 [1]Only fools say in their hearts, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, and their actions are evil; not one of them does good! [2]The lord looks down from heaven on the entire human race; he looks to see if anyone is truly wise, if anyone seeks God. [3]But no, all have turned away; all have become corrupt. No one does good, not a single one!

[@musiqal333]

@@ibandagirlson1224 so scared omg 🙄

[@musiqal333]

@@ibandagirlson1224 anyone can quote literature, quoting literature about supernatural entities means nothing! At all. Good day.

[@jeffc5974]

"Why should we read the Bible." "Please don't curse at me."

[@jeffc5974]

@Never-ending party How is it that the book had all these things, but we didn't realize what they meant until the scientists proved them first?

[@endless031]

The dude doesn't listen to what is being said and only hears what he wants to hear

[@kidslovesatan]

Never-ending party Heaven is the sky, not space. But nice try.

[@kidslovesatan]

Never-ending party Heaven is the sky, charlatan. God lives in your head.

[@jeffc5974]

@Never-ending party Interesting that you answer him but not me. Quite telling.

[@OnASeasideMission]

I've been in a situation in which a theist hit me with a question that I couldn't possibly answer. When I answered it, he carried on pushing the question. Christians are the greatest reason for atheism.

[@coolcatcass10]

The patience of Eric in this episode is astronomical

[@julianmarsh1378]

Eric is a good man. And I might add, better than a lot of the other males on this show. Traci and a few others are gone and I suspect it was because they couldn't handle the alpha males on this show, such as Matt, who just cannot shut up.

[@FlavourGames]

@@julianmarsh1378 No, she and those people left for other reasons. You can find out why.

[@julianmarsh1378]

@@FlavourGames I have read otherwise but like to believe you are right.

[@sunzi42]

Arguing with Carlos is like a arguing with a broken recordplayer.

[@romankvapil9184]

This guy is a worse version of Darth Dawkins.

[@valkyriefrost5301]

@@romankvapil9184 - Now that's just plain mean. DD is a disrespecting asshole that tries to run a script over a conversation. Carlos was much better and respectful. He did have one point he wanted to make, but Eric was not letting him go there. Sometimes, as frustrating as it can be, you have to give the theist enough rope to hang their own arguments.

[@user-sb1vz9pv5y]

@@valkyriefrost5301 Nah. Carlos was a dishonest asshole as well. Kinda hard to let someone get there when they just want to preach, change the subject when he can't answer, whine about being disrespected when he clearly wasnt being disrespected.

[@romankvapil9184]

@@valkyriefrost5301 I say he's worse than DD because he was just horribly prepared with his presuppositionalism and couldn't make a coherent sentence at all.

[@sunzi42]

@Damian La quay Yes, beacuse the rock is not preaching.

[@ismallazeeme7789]

He wanted to preach soooo bad. "I really care for you guys...Lets open the bible together!" "Nah... that's cool."

[@creativewriter3887]

Yeah.. "I really care for you.. so let me Bible verse sh-t all over you while playing victim and gaslighting you. How DARE you not give me a free platform! you're rude, disrespectful!"

[@MurshidIslam]

It's scary how people like Carlos have their mind completely closed.

[@ixion025]

sectarianism

[@sandykay1593]

"You're so full of shit" most precise description of all religions.

[@andreaoh2410]

These videos are so helpful to me as an atheist because these callers sound like my family and provide me with better confidence and rebuttals.

[@johnandersons]

This show and others has definitely cemented for me why I was an atheist but didn't really know why. I just knew I didn't believe in god and now I know the fallacies of reason that my brain rejected. It has made it much easier for me to tell people who ask, why I don't believe.

[@bmoe4609]

Ur good id get shunned n alienated.

[@quotedotes]

This is why I watch these types of shows. It's extremely useful for developing my own critical thinking skills, and rebutting fallacies from those around me.

[@zacharyshort384]

I hope your interactions with family today are going better than it went with Carlos on this call!

[@jacksimpson-rogers1069]

@@johnandersons Bravo!

[@uniquesquare7585]

Just like most theists, he doesn't want to discuss (argue) he wants to lecture.

[@UlshaRS]

Tipped his hand at 24:46 "I didn't come here to debate. We can do that next Sunday." He only called in to preach and 'save their souls'.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

People are ruled by fear and craving. Fear of eternal damnation in hell Craving for an eternal reward in heaven. Overcoming fear and craving brings personal power and freedom.

[@EustaBAracer]

One of his first lines was "do you have a bible we can look at today?" Bitch, this aint your show

[@EustaBAracer]

@@JamesRichardWiley I have to threaten to murder my children to get them to behave too.

[@treemu]

"Guys I don't want to argue, I am being polite" _proceeds to argue, talk over the hosts, not answer to questions, answer to questions no one asked and generally not listen_ "I have been respectful to you guys"

[@balrog322]

“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” That’s why I read the Bible.

[@lillynana1]

When I was a teenager, I used to have a lot of questions about the meaning of life, and about my life specifically. All I found was instructions on how to sacrifice goats and how to become property of my husband.

[@julianwaugh8221]

Well isn't that enough woman ? And don't get all uppity if I "_marry "_your sisters. Know your place as you are second to cattle!

[@caroleanderson4020]

😂

[@Ebiru2387]

Hello, how are you!? Carlos: Don't curse at me!

[@33melonpaws77]

Hey mate how you going? Carlos: The fuck did you just say about my mother?!

[@markfindlay8636]

@@33melonpaws77 😎😂

[@UlshaRS]

Carlos came pretriggered

[@purpleice7277]

Adamant Forge *very!!! 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@purpleice7277]

He is not there to listen, just wants to preach!

[@5chm1dtygaming61]

Carlos never shuts his mouth. Claims he is respecting them while he constantly interrupts and ignores even the most rudimentary concepts. Religion blinds people and poisons society.

[@billybobby7607]

He interested in listening to people his brain is rotted away

[@nuclearsimian3281]

One of the most disrespectful callers I've ever heard, peddling his own politeness as a reason to ignore anything he doesn't like.

[@Halloween111]

That's The Zealot SOP. When someone else wants to talk, Just keep on rolling and raise the volume. When confronted with logic, declare victory and retreat.

[@creativewriter3887]

And if you challenge them, you're accused of being rude, disrespectful and bullying.. meanwhile they're doing EXACTLY the same thing in wanting you to be their captive audience to their banal batsh-t crazy nonsense.

[@douglasrasmussen480]

Carlos is the predictable outcome for a large core of people brainwashed as children to believe mythology is real.

[@Trip_Fontaine]

Recently that there was a poll taken at an atheist convention asking "Why are you an atheist?" The #1 answer given was "I read the Bible in its entirety."

[@ixion025]

as an european it seems weird... how are you 70% christian without reading the book ?

[@Trip_Fontaine]

@@ixion025 Yeah, the idea that your salvation depends on obeying what's in a book and you can't even be bothered to read that book is absolutely nuts to me.

[@ixion025]

What's the difference between Santa Claus and Jesus? When I was 6, I realized it was all incorrect. I couldn't even read, but common sense made it an easy choice. But i imagine the family make the difference, i mean in a society so much religious ;) @@Trip_Fontaine

[@dariusnoname12]

"I am talking respectfully here" That is plain lie. Respect in conversation means listening and addressing what was said in fair amount. Caller basically ignored everything Eric or Jim asked while they addressed majority of what was asked. That is plain disrespect from caller.

[@thenerdshow2702]

They are 1000x more patient than I would have been.

[@scottcampbell4678]

I like listening to Eric because he is quite logical. However, in this case, I would have preferred the call was talking to Matt Dillahunty. He would have blown up and told the idiot off.

[@ricardovonkrypton8908]

A few times Eric is too patient, but that's just about finding where the line is, and it's different for every caller. On the other hand, he's one of the best for getting theists to the point where you can actually hear them thinking about these topics for the first time, and they start to give genuine, honest, considerate answers which contradict their religion. They actually leave the conversation more thoughtful about their beliefs!

[@giovannibazzini7117]

To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine

[@PBAmygdala2021]

I'm screen-grabbing that one. Thanks!

[@giovannibazzini7117]

@@PBAmygdala2021 my pleasure

[@davidcattin7006]

Also, you can't reason someone out of a belief that reason had no part in their embracing in the first place.

[@ogroncholmondeley1207]

I love the bit where Carlos suggests that the problem with this conversation is that THEY haven't listened.

[@jesperjee]

"Can I open the bible and prove that god is real?" I don´t know. Can I open my closet and prove that aliens are real? I saw it in ET.

[@geoffreygeoffrey4879]

Brilliant ! I'll use that, if I may.

[@jesperjee]

@@geoffreygeoffrey4879 Spread it around . Lol

[@tetsujin_144]

Well I mean if you have an alien in your closet and you can show it to me that actually would be pretty compelling evidence!

[@jesperjee]

@@tetsujin_144 I can. But you have to believe fully before you are able to see it.

[@stellis69]

Carlos wants a beautiful debate provided he's the only one speaking.

[@creativewriter3887]

yes.. "pontifical monologuing" at its "finest" (or in this case pedantic)

[@wytemagic08]

He truly is a masterdebater

[@philo5227]

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived." [Isaac Asimov]

[@scottcampbell4678]

@LuthAMF Asimov is one of the greatest authors to ever exist. As for his expertise, he was raised as a Catholic, so YES, he is an expert. He wrote NUMEROUS science textbooks in the 50s, 60's, and 70"s.

[@Julian0101]

@LuthAMF What makes a pastor an "expert"? oh right, the only experts on the bible are those who already believe the fairy tales that are written there. Because why would you question the book of fables if you already believe those stories are true.

[@Julian0101]

@LuthAMF Awww how cute... I see your stupidity got easily exposed. Sure kiddo i can leave you alone.

[@Julian0101]

@LuthAMF Exactly, your stupidity kiddo. I though you wanted to be alone, oh well. Which is more qualified to be an expert (not a pastor, any trash can become one, but nice attempt at moving the goalpost) someone who already believe the stories of the fairybook to be true, or someone, who with as little bias as possible, study the fables and compare them with reality (not necesarily asimov, but he is a good example)?

[@Julian0101]

@LuthAMF Wow! it took you a whole day to find out a pathetic distraction and avoid the counter question. And it was just a lame projection, how hillarious. Your question was pointless (and i answered it anyway, any trash can be a pastor, to be an expert you would need more than trash). The initial point you raised was about expertise, i presented a good measure for figuring out expertise, but instead of confronting the issue you just prefered to hide behind your own ignorance. Dont worry little shit, one day you will find out how to tapdance more quickly. For now i will leave you alone as you wished, no reason to keep you exposing your own ass when these first answers present very well how clear your stupidity is.

[@jimsmith3029]

Carlos is proof that we are, as George Carlin said, barely out of the jungle.

[@billofjazz]

And we're all insane, according to George C. Yup!

[@donaldsmith7824]

Carlos. Lacks the intelligence to comprehend the spiderman hidden wisdom.

[@DarthRane113]

He just wanted to preach uninterrupted. It's hard to go through your script if it gets questioned on the very first sentence lol

[@richpotter]

"When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It is only painful for others. The same applies when you are stupid." --Ricky Gervais

[@guytheincognito4186]

Spiderman is the posterboy of proper morals, far more so than their Jesus charlatan could ever dream of being.

[@richpotter]

Guy The Incognito -- and a far more entertaining martyr.

[@guytheincognito4186]

@@richpotter Indeed. Growing up with his show and comics taught me tons, as did looking up the people beast keeps quoting in the X-men show from the 90s. Two amazing series that teach morals and values and remains absolutely entertaining at the same time.))

[@sigmaoctantis1892]

Yo! Carlos! Along with respectful talking goes respectful listening. You need to work on listening.

[@ericthemovieguy]

Zactly

[@rentiap]

All he was doing was waiting his turn to talk, and did not hear a thing either of the hosts said.

[@neorich59]

"I'm not calling to argue with you?"Agreed, you're calling in order to preach and assert that what you *believe* is the "truth," and take no notice of any discussion to the contrary. Why do these people assume that we haven't read the Bible and heard all of the "arguments" before?

[@AquaPeet]

Because you lack the intellect to really understand the bible? (according to Carlos)

[@DoubleTrouble-li5wi]

Because they assume that if you had heard all the arguments, you would have come to believe the same things they do. Because they were convinced by those arguments, and thus something must be wrong with your understanding of the argument.

[@andrewwatts1997]

I feel like years of watching this show, studying the arguments, logical falacies etc etc. This caller is like a test. Spot the falacy, spot the inconsistency in their words, etc etc. I love this. I almost get giddy over how incompetent this person is. Anyone else enjoying these kinds of calls ?

[@Nocturnalux]

In a way but when I think of how people like him exist- and that they vote- I get terrified.

[@andrewwatts1997]

@@Nocturnalux Same here...

[@gogogetter]

“With great power comes great responsibility “ 😂 that response was gold.

[@marmalade627]

Warning: this is extremely frustrating to listen to.

[@brentrollens8090]

Not a big fan of Eric. He strings topics out much too long trying to seem measured and intelligent. This video shows frustration u don't usually see in him.

[@johnthijm5113]

This should be x-rated

[@norboost]

Wish I read this 20 minutes ago

[@luke1835]

@@brentrollens8090 The only reason he strings out the topics so long is because the person he is talking to simply does not understand what he is trying to say.

[@gmansplit]

Watching this I wonder if there isn't at least something of a language barrier. Not only is Carlos entirely unfamiliar with the concepts they are talking about, which is to be expected, but he doesn't seem to even understand the grammar structures and sentences they are speaking.

[@rollysj384]

again... Believers : We are here to prove the Bible is true. Judge : What is your evidence. Believers : It is in the Bible.

[@j.dragon651]

that one always gets me?

[@agilagilsen8714]

Judge: So you claim to have a witness proving that you couldn't have been at the scene of the crime, correct? Me: Yes your honour, I do. Judge: Alright, you may present the witness. Me: Goes up on the stand. Me: So, I spent the night alone at home playing games on my pc without Internet. My DNA was obviously planted along with my fingerprints and so on. Also me: Surprised I was convinced for murder

[@rollysj384]

@@agilagilsen8714 (Hahaha! Your point is vague, but I'll oblige a play on your crime...) Judge: You've been playing games on your pc since you were a child! Your DNA would still be there when you committed the crime! In fact you're DNA is there yet you're here! John Edvards: ...

[@tomgantt9822]

You are more moral than this guy will ever be. I appreciate you and your willingness to speak the truth against such hatred! It takes courage to put yourself out there. I appreciate you and your channel.

[@o2boutdoors]

Carlos is an expert at deflection, avoidance, and straw-manning.

[@louiscyfer6944]

o2boutdoors not really. he is just running a script, he is not listening, just waiting for his turn.

[@Elris4]

I feel like an expert would be able to do those things in a way that people don't immediately realize that they're doing it. So, I wouldn't say he's an expert, but he definitely has a passion for it.

[@Doppe1ganger]

@@louiscyfer6944 Yes, he is incredibly bad at deflection and avoidance and straw-manning because it's so obvious when he's doing it. Just running a script and listening not once.

[@mauriciogonzalezrobles8594]

expert? no being an expert would imply they fell for it

[@mauriciogonzalezrobles8594]

@OriginalTharios still that doesn't make him an expert, he's just deaf to reasoning, that's not a skill

[@Tezwah]

He's not treating you with respect though, he isn't listening at all, he is just waiting for his turn to speak. Very disrespectful

[@Lrover16]

Tezwah they are all the same. They either say "right, right" or "I understand what you say (and they don't). Very disingenuous.

[@davids11131113]

Every christians reply is just ‘Yea yea whatever’ .... they only intend to preach.

[@MrBofinn]

It seems like the real heavy theist callers have a significant problem with listening.

[@Celtic_Thylacine]

Yup. You can modulate your voice and still be an asshat. Respectfulness would involve listening careful and reponding thoughtfully. Carlos failed at that.

[@lebojay]

Agree. This is the distinction between polite and respectful. Polite means using nice words, but being respectful means more, including listening.

[@danieljackson4511]

Honestly, reading Harry Potter gave me a million times more useful and meaningful information than reading the baibel

[@amplelola23]

Fifty shades of grey(as bad as it was) is better than the Songs of Solomon 🙄

[@JayTheRed1]

Facts!

[@mirandalyneetestewart3083]

@@amplelola23 Wow, that’s depressing.

[@liveesunflower]

and it was way more interesting

[@guytheincognito4186]

Same with reading Spiderman. The sheer amount of times he's stood up to overwhelming odds, the times he's had to lift significant amounts of tons above his normal weight limit to save himself and others, not because a faith in god or supernatural entities pushed him but because it was the right thing to do, because all those people and those actions had great moral values and weight to him and never over blind belief but because of the trust and bonds between and the value of intelligent life, not out of some inherent magical reasons but for moral, epistemological, sound basis that makes him and others legitimately better people overall, regardless of any God's or lack thereof. "With Great Power comes Great Responsibility." And I'd like to finish this off with a couple quotes from Karen Marie Moning & Robert G. Ingersoll respectively. “ _Its our actions that define us. What we choose. What we resist. What we're willing to die for_ .” -Karen M Moning .. "Believers in religion teach us that God will reward men for good actions, but men whom are intellectually free, know that the reward of a good action cannot be given by any power, but that it is the natural result of the good action. The free man guided by intelligence, knows that his reward is in the nature of things, and not in the caprice even of the infinite. He is not a good and faithful servant, He is an intelligent free man." -Robert G Ingersoll. ... Thx for reading and have a good day

[@Anonymoose0523]

"Happiness can be found in even the darkest of times, if one only remembers to turn on the light." Harry Potter 1, Bible 0

[@grantjackson7325]

I don't know about that. I've found plenty of happiness in the dark! :-)

[@Gwaithmir]

Reading the Bible was instrumental in my eventually becoming an atheist.

[@vinnyganzano1930]

My ultra religious father putting me in hospital when I told him I didn't believe in God was what put me firmly in the atheist camp.

[@andrewwheeler1257]

12 years of mindless ritual in catholic school turned me into an atheist. I don’t know if the the nuns knew how their punitive approach to teaching affected children. It would be interesting to know how many Catholics walked away from the church.

[@Gwaithmir]

@@andrewwheeler1257 From the number of Catholic churches that had to be closed over the past two decades, I'd say that a substantial number of Catholics have walked away. My nephew's wife is one.

[@andrewwheeler1257]

@@Gwaithmir I might add that I went to catholic school in the 1960’s. If someone was caught sending a note in class, the nuns would send all the girls out of the room, and would beat all the boys with a ruler. This was their strategy to turn classmates against each other. The nuns should have been sent to prison.

[@Gwaithmir]

@@andrewwheeler1257 My 8th grade nun was on a par with pedophile priests, in that her obsession involved violence against the students. Whether there was anything sexual involved, I do not know, but her favorite practice was to seize students by the hair or cheeks and repeatedly pound their heads against a blackboard. She almost always bore a crooked little smile while performing these acts. Indeed, she should have gone to jail.

[@reillyobrien4372]

Theists too often indignantly demand respect while showing outright disrespect to their opponent.

[@hmmhmm9017]

Entitlement complex

[@cyansloth1763]

THIS.

[@mohamedyusuf5141]

Maybe because atheists tend to lack respect? Or maybe not..

[@hmmhmm9017]

@@mohamedyusuf5141 Why don't you go back 200 years and talk about the respect theists gave to atheists 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@mohamedyusuf5141]

@@hmmhmm9017 Well I don't stand for all theists, only Islam. In Islam there is no compulsion in religion (you cannot forcefully convert people). There was also famously a debate held between the Prophet Muhammad SAW and a prominent atheist philosopher in the middle of Makkah. Nobody persecuted him.

[@williamgeorgefraser]

The 7th Commandment says "Thou shalt not commit adultery." God then takes a married woman and impregnates her. If that's not hypocrisy then I don't know what is.

[@a.vulcan6282]

Apparently the Christian god can do anything he feels like, and it's good.

[@Zaprozhan]

@@a.vulcan6282 Common in a "Might Makes Right" mindset, like barbarian raiding tribes, like the Hebrews of the times. Rules are for the underclasses, which the nobles can ignore, bend, or amend at their leisure.

[@simongiles9749]

Pretty much like "Thou Shalt Not Kill". Moses then kills 3000 Golden Calf worshippers.

[@bookmarksbindery7850]

@@cnault3244 Damnit! I wish you'd told me this before. I just seethed a kid in his mother's milk a couple of hours ago just 'cos I was bored with being in lockdown.

[@mikedonigan6665]

Find Jesus!

[@jenna2431]

When Carlos went right to "Don't curse me" it was all over for him.

[@jeff6660]

Carlos is beyond dishonest. He seems to me to be a Christian that is unwilling to hear any evidence against his "Magic Book".

[@russellgettons3333]

These two idiots have been given a pure prophecy that is staggering and they refuse to believe so do you

[@Moosemansmithy]

@@russellgettons3333 your own Master Jesus said that prophecies will fail. Do you ever read that book or just talk shit?

[@Moosemansmithy]

@@russellgettons3333 let me teach you a little something about prophecies and how they have failed. Since the 16th century Christians have been making predictions and having visions and prophecies. Every one of them has been worthless as shitt. Here's a list just to drive home the point about what you call a legitimate prophecy

[@Moosemansmithy]

@@russellgettons3333 Here's how great prophecies are. These are all failed prophecies. Here you go. Let's just start in the 16th century because the further we go back the more predictions their are of the end of the world. This is how many predictions have failed. These by the way are only the mainstream predictions that everyone was shiting their pants about. 1 Feb 1624London astrologersThe same astrologers who predicted the deluge of 1 February 1524 recalculated the date to 100 years later after their first prophecy failed.[38] [39]1648Sabbatai ZeviUsing the kabbalah proclaimed that the Messiah would come during that year. Later claimed to be the Messiah in 1666-7[48]1651Unknown author from Lübeck, GermanyThe apocalypse maps tell of an Antichrist, the rise of Islam and other events following Judgement Day that was predicted to occur in 1651.[50]1654Helisaeus RoeslinThis physician made a prediction that the world would end this year based on a nova that occurred in 1572.[51]1656Christopher ColumbusIn his Book of Prophecies (1501), Columbus predicted that the world would end during this year.[52] [53]1655-1657Fifth MonarchistsThis group of radical Christians predicted that the final apocalyptic battle and the destruction of the Antichrist were to take place between 1655 and 1657.[54]1658Christopher ColumbusColumbus claimed that the world was created in 5343 BCE, and would last 7000 years. Assuming no year zero, that means the end would come in 1658.[55]1660Joseph MedeMede claimed that the Antichrist had appeared in 456, and the end would come in 1660.[56]1666Sabbatai ZeviFollowing his failed prediction of 1648, Zevi recalculated the end of the Earth for this year.[48]Fifth MonarchistsThe presence of 666 in the date, the death of 100,000 Londoners to bubonic plague, and the Great Fire of London led to superstitious fears of the end of the world from some Christians.[57] [58]1673William AspinwallThis Fifth Monarchist claimed the Millennium would begin by this year.[59]1688John NapierThis mathematician calculated the end of the world would be this year based on calculations from the Book of Revelation.[60]1689Pierre JurieuThis prophet predicted that Judgement Day would occur this year.[61]1694John MasonThis Anglican priest predicted the Millennium would begin by this year.[62]Johann Heinrich AlstedThis Calvinist minister predicted the Millennium would begin by this year.[63]Johann Jacob ZimmermannBelieved that Jesus would return and the world would end this year.[64]1697Cotton MatherThis Puritan minister predicted the world would end this year. After the prediction failed, he revised the date of the end two more times.[45]1700John NapierFollowing his 1688 prediction, Napier recalculated his end of the world prediction to 1700 in A Plaine Discovery, a book published in 1593.[65]Henry ArcherIn his 1642 work, The Personall Reigne of Christ Upon Earth, Archer predicted the Second Coming of Jesus would occur in approximately this year.[66] 18th centuryEdit Date (CE)Claimant(s)DescriptionRef.1705-1708CamisardsCamisard prophets predicted the end of the world would occur in either 1705, 1706 or 1708.[61]1716Cotton MatherRevised prediction from Mather after his 1697 prediction failed to come true.[45]5 Apr 1719Jacob BernoulliThis mathematician predicted a comet would destroy the Earth on this day.[51]1700-1734Nicholas of CusaThis cardinal predicted the end would occur between 1700 and 1734.[67]16 Oct 1736William WhistonThis theologian predicted a comet colliding with the Earth this year.[68]1736Cotton MatherMather's third and final prediction for the end of the world.[45]1757Emanuel SwedenborgSwedenborg, a former Lutheran, claimed that the Last Judgement occurred in the spiritual world this year.[69] [70]19 May 1780Connecticut General Assembly members, New EnglandersThe sky turning dark during the day was interpreted as a sign of the end times. The primary cause of the event is believed to have been a combination of smoke from forest fires, a thick fog, and cloud cover.[71]1789Pierre d'AillyThe year 1789 would bring the coming of the Antichrist, according to this 14th-century cardinal.[72]1792 1794ShakersThe Shakers, a Christian sect founded in 18th century England, predicted the world would end in 1792 and then in 1794.[45]19 Nov 1795Nathaniel Brassey HalhedWhile campaigning for Richard Brothers' release, Halhead proclaimed that the world would end on this day.[73]1793-1795Richard BrothersThis retired sailor stated the Millennium would begin between 1793 and 1795. He was eventually committed to an insane asylum.[67] 19th centuryEdit Date (CE)Claimant(s)DescriptionRef.1805Christopher LoveThis Presbyterian minister predicted the destruction of the world by earthquake in 1805, followed by an age of everlasting peace when God would be known by all.[74]1806Mary BatemanIn Leeds, England, in 1806 a hen began laying eggs on which the phrase "Christ is coming" was written. Eventually it was discovered to be a hoax. The owner, Mary Bateman, had written on the eggs in a corrosive ink so as to etch the eggs, and reinserted the eggs back into the hen's oviduct.[75] [76]19 Oct 1814Joanna SouthcottThis 64-year-old self-described prophet claimed she was pregnant with the Christ child, and that he would be born on October 19, 1814. She died later that year having not delivered a child, and an autopsy proved she had not been pregnant.[77]1836Johann Albrecht BengelIn the 1730s this Lutheran clergyman proclaimed that Judgment Day would come in 1836, with the pope as the anti-Christ and the Freemasons representing the "false prophet" of Revelations.[78]1836John WesleyWesley, the founder of the Methodist Church, foresaw the Millennium beginning this year. He wrote that Revelation 12:14 referred to 1058 to 1836, "when Christ should come".[75] [79]28 Apr 1843 31 Dec 1843MilleritesAlthough it was not officially endorsed by their leadership, many Millerites expected the Second Coming to occur on April 28 or at the end of 1843.[80]1843Harriet LivermoreThe first of two years this preacher predicted the world would end.[81]21 Mar 1844William MillerMiller, a Baptist preacher, predicted Christ would return on this day.[82]22 Oct 1844MilleritesAfter Christ did not return on 21 March 1844, the Millerites then revised William Miller's prediction to 22 October that year, claiming to have miscalculated Scripture. The realization that the predictions were incorrect resulted in the Great Disappointment.[82] [83]7 Aug 1847George RappRapp, the founder of the Harmony Society, preached that Jesus would return in his lifetime, even as he lay dying on August 7, 1847.[84]1847Harriet LivermoreThe second prediction of the end of the world from this preacher.[81]1862John CummingThis Scottish clergyman stated it was 6000 years since creation in 1862, and that the world would end.[85]Joseph MorrisOriginally an English convert to Mormonism, Morris had revelations to gather his followers and wait for the Second Coming, through successive prophesied days.[86]1863John WroeThe founder of the Christian Israelite Church calculated that the Millennium would begin this year.[77]1873-1874Jonas WendellWendell, along with other Adventist preachers, predicted the Second Coming of Christ would occur in 1873 or 1874. In 1870, Wendell published his views in the booklet entitled The Present Truth, or Meat in Due Season concluding that the Second Advent was sure to occur in 1873. After the prediction did not bear out, Nelson H. Bardour reinterpreted the prediction holding that Jesus had in fact returned in 1874 but in an invisible form.[87][88][89]1881Mother Shipton (attrib.)This 15th-century prophet was quoted as saying "The world to an end shall come, In eighteen hundred and eighty one" in a book published in 1862. In 1873 it was revealed to be a forgery; however, this did not stop some people from expecting the end.[90]1890WovokaThe founder of the Ghost Dance movement predicted in 1889 that the Millennium would occur in 1890.[91] 20th centuryEdit

[@Moosemansmithy]

@@russellgettons3333 20th century edit Date (CE)Claimant(s)DescriptionRef.1901Catholic Apostolic ChurchThis church, founded in 1831, claimed that Jesus would return by the time the last of its 12 founding members died. The last member died in 1901.[92]23 Apr 1908Michael Paget BaxterThe last of numerous apocalyptic predictions by this Anglican evangelist and author; this prediction was published in 1894.[93]1910Camille FlammarionFlammarion predicted that the 1910 appearance of Halley's Comet "would impregnate that atmosphere and possibly snuff out all life on the planet", but not the planet itself. "Comet pills" were sold to protect against toxic gases.[83] [94]1892-1911Charles Piazzi SmythThis pyramidologist concluded from his research on the dimensions of the Great Pyramid of Giza that the Second Coming would occur somewhere between 1892 and 1911.[95]1914Charles Taze RussellRussell said "...the battle of the great day of God Almighty... The date of the close of that 'battle' is definitely marked in Scripture as October 1914. It is already in progress, its beginning dating from October, 1874."[96]1915John ChilembweThis Baptist educator and leader of a rebellion in the British protectorate of Nyasaland predicted the Millennium would begin this year.[91]1918International Bible Students Association"Christendom shall be cut off and glorification of the Little Flock (The Church) in the Spring of 1918 A. D."[97]1920International Bible Students AssociationIn 1918, Christendom would go down as a system to oblivion and be succeeded by revolutionary governments. God would "destroy the churches wholesale and the church members by the millions." Church members would "perish by the sword of war, revolution and anarchy." The dead would lie unburied. In 1920 all earthly governments would disappear, with worldwide anarchy prevailing.[98]13 Feb 1925Margaret RowenAccording to this Seventh-Day Adventist, the angel Gabriel appeared before her in a vision and told her that the world would end at midnight on this date.[99]1926Spencer PercevalThis British MP, who was one of the 12 apostles of the Catholic Apostolic Church, believed that the world was growing nearer to the Apocalypse due to what he viewed as the rampant immorality of the times in Europe.[100]1934Walter MarksMarks, an Australian MP, told the House of Representatives that Armageddon would occur in 1934 and culminate with the Royal Navy bringing Christ's chosen people to Jerusalem.[101] [102]Sep 1935Wilbur Glenn VolivaThis evangelist announced that "the world is going to go 'puff' and disappear" in September 1935.[103]1936Herbert W. ArmstrongThe founder of the Worldwide Church of God told members of his church that the rapture was to take place in 1936, and that only they would be saved. After the prophecy failed, he changed the date three more times.[104]1941Jehovah's WitnessesA prediction of the end from the Jehovah's Witnesses, a group which branched from the Bible Student movement.[105]1943Herbert W. ArmstrongThe first of three revised dates from Armstrong after his 1936 prediction failed to come true.[104]1947John Ballou NewbroughThe author of Oahspe: A New Bible foresaw the destruction of all nations and the beginning of post-apocalyptic anarchy in this year.[90]21 Dec 1954Dorothy MartinThe world was to be destroyed by terrible flooding on this date, claimed this leader of a UFO cult called Brotherhood of the Seven Rays. The fallout of the group after the prediction failed was the basis for the 1956 book When Prophecy Fails.[106]22 Apr 1959Florence HouteffThe second prophet of the Branch Davidians predicted the apocalypse foretold in the Book of Revelation would proceed on this date. The failure of the prophecy led to the split of the sect into several subsects, the most prominent led by Benjamin and Lois Roden.[107]1951-1960Johann Gottfried BischoffOn December 25, 1951, Bischoff stated the Second Coming would occur before he died. He died on July 6, 1960.[108]4 Feb 1962Jeane Dixon, various Indian astrologersDixon predicted a planetary alignment on this day was to bring destruction to the world. Mass prayer meetings were held in India.[109] [110]20 Aug 1967George Van TasselThis day would mark the beginning of the third woe of the Apocalypse, during which the southeastern US would be destroyed by a Soviet nuclear attack, according to this UFO prophet, who claimed to have channeled an alien named Ashtar.[111]1967Jim JonesThe founder of the People's Temple stated he had visions that a nuclear holocaust was to take place in 1967.[112]9 Aug 1969George WilliamsThe founder of the Church of the Firstborn predicted the Second Coming of Christ would occur on this day.[113]1969Charles MansonManson predicted that Helter skelter, an apocalyptic race war, would occur in 1969.[114]1972Herbert W. ArmstrongThe second of three revised dates from Armstrong after his 1936 and 1943 predictions failed to come true.[104]Jan 1974David BergBerg, the leader of Children of God, predicted that there would be a colossal doomsday event heralded by Comet Kohoutek.[115]1975Herbert W. ArmstrongArmstrong's fourth and final prediction.[104]Jehovah's WitnessesFrom 1966 on, Jehovah's Witnesses published articles which stated that the fall of 1975 would be 6000 years since man's creation, and suggested that Armageddon could be finished by then.[116]1976Brahma KumarisThe Brahma Kumaris founder, Lekhraj Kirpalani, has made a number of predictions of a global Armageddon which the religion believes it will inspire, internally calling it "Destruction". During Destruction, Brahma Kumari leaders teach the world will be purified, all of the rest of humanity killed by nuclear or civil wars and natural disasters which will include the sinking of all other continents except India.[117]1977John WroeThe founder of the Christian Israelite Church predicted this year for Armageddon to occur.[90]William M. BranhamThis Christian minister predicted the rapture would occur no later than 1977.[118]17 Feb 1979Roch ThériaultThériault, who called himself Moïse (Moses), led a commune in the wilderness of eastern Quebec in the late seventies. Formerly a Seventh-Day Adventist, he told his group they would form the center of a new society during God's 1000 year reign following Armageddon.[119]1980Leland JensenIn 1978 Jensen predicted that there would be a nuclear disaster in 1980, followed by two decades of conflict, culminating in God's Kingdom being established on Earth.[120]1981Chuck SmithThe founder of Calvary Chapel predicted the generation of 1948 would be the last generation, and that the world would end by 1981. Smith identified that he "could be wrong" but continued to say in the same sentence that his prediction was "a deep conviction in my heart, and all my plans are predicated upon that belief."[121] [122]

[@VoiceOfIrrationality]

"I'm not calling to argue with you guys . . . I'm not here to prove my point." . . so he just called to preach at them with no interruptions. He must think it's his show.

[@guicaldo7164]

Matt's response probably would've been "then why the fuck did you call!?" I felt like shouting the same thing...

[@MM-xu3wt]

proof of god exists by scientific

[@VoiceOfIrrationality]

@@MM-xu3wt Yeah, right . . . well, OK. So, how's the weather there?

[@project_sayo]

@@guicaldo7164 Lol I remember that lady. She was sooo annoying.

[@guicaldo7164]

@@project_sayo Yeah, she was the one who got super offended and hung up on him afterwards. Bit of a shame, I felt like he was making progress by proving to her that God would necessarily be the one sending people to hell... So yeah, that was a pretty memorable call

[@CaptainKirkDiggler]

6:02 Eric can be cold as ice... and savage if someone ignores his questions and attempts to just control the conversation. Love it! And Jim is absolutely brutal... he does not suffer fools gladly but, for the first time... was gonna give the guy a break... Eric swoops in with the "HELL NO". Je dis bravo!!

[@missella7339]

Some people are not willing to have an open format thinking discussion on both sides... They just want to say "I'm right and you're wrong." This will never go anywhere.

[@DanielLee1]

Carlos: _“Makes a statement”_ Host: _”That statement is false”_ Carlos: _“Look guys, I’m not here to argue and I’m not going to convince anyone of anything”_

[@Krikenemp18]

Also Carlos: "Just give me one verse and I'll prove God to you."

[@DanielLee1]

@@Krikenemp18 yeah I love that. That’s literally the same as saying “Just let me read this one sentence from the book, and I’ll prove to you that Harry Potter is real”.

[@ZHZhuull]

​@@DanielLee1the Harry Potter series is more coherent, sensible, and displays better morality than the Bible; and it's author is still a bigoted hack so what's the Bible's name excuse?

[@DanielLee1]

@@ZHZhuull wow yeah, good point. Kinda says a lot about the _Bible’s_ author…

[@onewholovesvenison5335]

“The Bible is full of fulfilled prophecies” The Bible: There will be earthquakes and famines and stuff Earthquakes and Famines: Have always happened and are always happening somewhere on earth, making the prophecy pointless.

[@leyrua]

"People will read this post." Hey look! I made a prophecy, and it came true!

[@UlshaRS]

Doesn't just happen to humans either. Weird right. Maybe he should try saving meerkat souls on the African savanah.

[@ricardovonkrypton8908]

It always felt like someone looking around at bad things in their world, claiming those things show that RIGHT NOW is the end-times. It has been equally 'prophetic' every day since it was written!

[@basstian]

Grey's Anatomy had an episode in which an event was foreshadowed (no spoilers), rendering it a soothsaying masterpiece. And its title's a play on 'Gray's Anatomy', which is a book, so there you go: long live Dr Gray/Grey!

[@dauntless0711]

My response: Carlos, I assume by “fulfilled prophecies” you are referring to the coming of Jesus Christ, among other things. Correct? Then, let me ask you something... Premise 1: The authors of the New Testament recorded Jesus’ life AFTER his crucifixion, correct? (The answer is yes.) Premise 2; Did they have access to the Old Testament at the time they wrote the New? (The answer is yes.) Conclusion: Then, is it possible the details regarding Jesus’ life and ministry were embellished by those authors to make them consistent with the claims of the Old Testament? (The answer is yes.) And... BAM! That is why this argument fails, because we have no way of knowing whether the things Jesus supposedly did, according to the New Testament, ever took place.

[@seitanicgoat3194]

Bible remains still the top reason for having more and more atheists. I love the bible! Best ally ever!

[@doneestoner9945]

The road to atheism is littered with bibles.

[@larrycrabs5995]

I wish more Christians would read them. There'd be way more atheists.

[@stevenhogenson4880]

@@larrycrabs5995 I agree. I know that was a critical key to my own deconversion.

[@supermaple1919]

One of my favorite atheist KZbin videos OF ALL TIME.

[@Krikenemp18]

Carlos, when a person has to raise their voice to be heard over your interruptions and or because they're frustrated that you keep dodging their attempts to have a dialog, that's not them being disrespectful, that's YOU being disrespectful. Eric shows more respect to callers than just about any other host on this show, and he certainly showed more respect than you on this call. You can put the script down for 30 minutes and listen to the person you're talking at. THAT is respect.

[@shab90]

“If you want to become an Atheist, just read the Bible.”

[@jockmactaggart988]

It's a hard brutal book

[@shab90]

jock mactaggart ... of fairy tale beings and of a “God” who physically and psychologically tortures his followers into a blind and complete submission with a promise of “eternal” repetitiveness and nothingness.

[@adamkurt471]

Truer words never written.

[@wilazo77]

Or listen to Carlos 🙄

[@Codswallop58]

When he reads the list of names and their supposed meanings, I realized this is what he called in for, to filibuster with made-up meanings that he thinks support his especially stupid version of Christianity. And for the record, "Adam" does not mean "man." Adam comes from the Hebrew word "adama," which means earth, literally dirt. Because Adam was supposedly formed out of dirt. So he got that wrong, and he went downhill from there.

[@assafshakked7988]

As a native Hebrew speaker, Adam defiantly means man, it's derived from the word adama, dirt though.

[@donkink3114]

This is my first clip of talk heathen and let me say I love how you both handled this call. You gave Carlos many opportunities to have an actual conversation and he just kept on trying to preach his script. Thereby showing his ego, lack of integrity and the depth of his indoctrination from child hood along with his biased "studies" of this religious crap. Excellent job of forcing this into the open for the audience to see.

[@unit0033]

To the theists trolling a page they apparently don't like. Call the show and try to prove Yr sky daddy

[@eduardneagoe]

Do you want to become the next pope so you can change the definition of god to "sky daddy" instead? i would suppport you all the way, Il'l become an archbishop if I have to!

[@jewsco]

@@eduardneagoe can I be a sky daddy cardinal the outfit is pretty cool

[@bluedragonfly8139]

Right?

[@JohnDoe-mv5jm]

I've found things on the bottom of my shoe, that have more sense than Carlos.

[@seanjones2456]

Carlos's listening skills are equal to the stuff on the bottom of your shoe.

[@SolveEtCoagula93]

The first time that Eric mentioned a fiction book I thought, 'Mention Harry Potter'. Several minutes later Eric mentions Harry Potter. This must prove that Harry Potter is divine. An epiphany. I believe - I'm saved! Thank you Lord Potter!

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

i prefer opening 'The handbook of chemistry and physics". It contains a plethora of facts and every few years it gets updated. It is absolutely fascinating to see what we have discovered.

[@88marome]

Carlos was disrespectful from the beginning to the end but he was more concerned with swear words? What a hypocrite!

[@perennialthoughts5650]

Carlos was right the whole time, snap out of this!!!!

[@GloryBeToGodForever]

Perennial Thoughts Blessings! LOL@ your comment.

[@perennialthoughts5650]

@@GloryBeToGodForever right!!

[@kaiza6467]

He got triggered by a swear word he didn't even hear lmao

[@kieronbrowne7881]

Carlos is fucking deluded.

[@irishnich4456]

Actually I became athiest when I started reading the Bible with open mind.

[@Halloween111]

The road to Atheism is paved with bibles that were finally read cover to cover.

[@TheKosmikid]

Yet another theist who appears to not be able to listen to others.

[@SpliffStar79]

Very typical

[@artistjoh]

TheKosmikid Not only cannot listen, he wilfully refuses to listen.

[@JarlGrimmToys]

artistjoh the amount of callers they get that just wait for their turn to talk without listening is astounding. One guy admitted he silently prayed when the hosts were talking, then started talking again when they stopped. It was like listening to 2 different conversations. Because the hosts would ask a question and the caller would reply with something completely different.

[@___LC___]

I can’t even get my sister to have an honest conversation and we are a close family. Religious people are mostly inherently dishonest.

[@artistjoh]

Christy T Yes. Those who talk most about morality tend to be less honest than the rest of us. They actually believe such vacuous nonsense, that in their mind, being dishonest is really being honest.

[@sashag2196]

i love when someone is just waiting to say their thing, and doesnt care at all what others say.

[@davids11131113]

This Christian is the very definition of passive aggressive.

[@whatever000whenever]

Waiting for him to "threaten" to pray for these guys LOL

[@fomori2]

@Never-ending party Are you ever going to post something correct in ANY comment thread on this video. You are like a reverse prophet in that everything you have said is 180 degrees from reality. You are either very ignorant, or a very terrible troll. You should read a textbook, instead of a bible, to help cure your lack of education.

[@MrKit9]

@@fomori2 NEP is what happens when two dogs in the same litter mate in Chernobyl.

[@davids11131113]

No clearly you don’t know the meaning of that term.

[@koosh138]

Wow, this was stressful just trying to hear him ignore everything you guys were saying.

[@MichaelDeHaven]

I kind of hope he was a troll. That level of ignorance and lack of inquisitive nature in an adult is depressing.

[@koosh138]

@@MichaelDeHaven Unfortunately, I've argued with worse. There's people in Malaysia that still believe sickness comes from when you're possessed by a jinn. (yes, she was muslim.)

[@Xean45]

Wow. I just found this channel. You are all so amazingly patient with these callers. Well done. Me? I'm sitting here screaming at my screen.

[@nazarsoroka23]

eric’s “not yet.” was so damn funny 😂