Are Cheap Quad Core Xeon PCs Still Worth It In 2021?

Should you still buy an old quad core Intel Xeon workstation with plans to upgrade it for gaming? Today we're taking a look at an old Dell T3500 I found online for just under £100 with the hope of answering that question.
Index:
0:00 Introduction and Specifications
2:04 Upgrade Recommendations
3:26 Gaming Performance
6:34 Final Thoughts and Further Upgrade Potential
7:20 Conclusion

[@someguywithmtndew5691]

Linus: new intel laptop RGHD: old xeons

[@MrSchnitzengiggles]

we all have the same start page

[@impike]

this channel is better than that linus guy...

[@JRS1235678]

@@impike sure if all you care about is obsolete hardware

[@kanishka.rathore]

@@MrSchnitzengiggles YES

[@Heinousology]

These videos still have great value. Imagine if all the pc gaming channels all did the same thing constantly. Like Linus, gamer meld, gamers nexus and jays2ç. The gaming industry has a very robust and important retro gaming market and to criticize a channel for doing this is absolutely ridiculous.

[@justinbuckley]

This reminds me of the old T7500 I paired with a Xeon X5650 and GTX 1060 for just under £200 back in early 2019. For the price that was a fantastic system

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah hopefully the prices of stuff will go back to that golden age of used market hardware again soon

[@RaymondLo84]

X5650 I overclocked mine to 4.0Ghz

[@wmp0074]

@@aetherian31 Dang I should have looked at used workstations instead of spending like $1200 on a used Threadripper 1950x build! :(

[@GrainRevelation]

here i got in 2019 also ;) , t7500 with x5680, 12 gig ram 240gb ssd , rx 570 8gb ( old mining card, tested), could put another processor if needed but i like the 1 cpu config for the thermals. yes it is huge and fans are not the most silent but for 400$ cad , it is a stealer. and the 1100 power supply has 2 connectors for graphic cards! Did you use the U402f for the cpu? i tie wrapped a fan to it and it does wonders. never go over 60 celcius in games. cheers!

[@AJ-jq3hm]

@@wmp0074 for real. The first gen tr's suck at games. The e5 2678 with its 12 cores gives plenty of productivity juice while easily utilising gpu's as powerful as the 1080 ti to the max and delivering great gaming performance. All for like 80-90$

[@DimNussens]

I see a guitar there, I'm a fan of guitars as much as I like my computers. Maybe you should do us a bit one day using it.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

As soon as I can play it I’ll make a video 😂

[@officialdislikebutton9712]

one broken string

[@ozairahmed1352]

@SNES Nes yh that's true, in fact, I'm about to replace the 1660 super in mine to 3070 for that extra performance: makes the strings sound more prevalent.

[@ozairahmed1352]

@SNES Nes too late and no regrets, this guitar sounds *electric*

[@joshuawithrington2023]

Iv been playing guitar maybe 7 or 8 years ( and im 16 nearly 17). Knowing that this channel also features guitars as well as gaming, satisfies me deeply.

[@SuperSucc69]

These things were my jam when I used to resell old pc's

[@classic_jam]

are you sure about that

[@SuperSucc69]

@@classic_jam I literally stole computers from a recycling centre. Young me couldn't get enough of that quad core juice

[@Sirdiggar]

@@SuperSucc69 I used to drop a load of rubbish at a weekly basis from my old job to a recycling place, I knew one of the guys who worked there. Every week he would hold back pc and laptops that people threw away, most of the time the people that threw them away didn't know how to fix the issues, the amount of parts I had that just needed a fresh windows install or a new hard drive was mind boggling. People just throw them away and buy new, I made a fortune anyway.. miss those days.

[@ethantorres4061]

@@Sirdiggar wow that’s crazy, and a good way to make money lol

[@Techwen]

@@classic_jam jam meme

[@_rn_3861]

MATE AND IM NOT EVEN JOKING RIGHT HERE, I ACTUALLY STILL HAVE THIS GUY (mildly upgraded with mismatched parts, but i still have the system components!)

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Awesome 😎

[@SubaruBRZ-oe7sz]

same I have a gtx 1650 super in there

[@LanaaAmor]

@Dat Boii is the pcie slot 3.0? Do I need to worry if I got a GTX 1650 super and a pcie 2.0 slot?

[@Mini-z1994]

@@LanaaAmor nah using a 1660 super here on pci-e 2.0 its not fast enough too be limited by anything other then the cpu for me atm I5 2500 running at 3.9 ghz all core turbo & 4.1 ghz single core turbo.

[@thunderkunt5416]

Calm down there buddy geez 😂😂

[@MapleLeafAce]

If this was the Verge they'd be bragging about that Xeon. That's right, they got one.

[@dermothoyne2393]

Don't let the "guy" near it... esp. without a Swiss Army knife?!

[@jamiepompey]

And some tweezers.

[@brokenshoe1775]

Don't forget a table

[@PrinzEugen39]

Also remember to use anti cancer wrist band

[@wolfshanze5980]

Screw with confidence!

[@samtheman9000]

i almost thought you would slap on the 1050 Ti singleslot inno3D version seeing the case and brackets. but you managed to get a 1650 in there, so thats neat

[@thealien_ali3382]

I have this pc the 6 core one, I slapped in a gtx 760 and use the pc for old school gaming

[@Rc2Go]

Neatt

[@rover908]

I still do use 1050ti, honestly. . . I don't really need much GPU power, maybe little bit more ram, 8GB does limit me render wise.

[@maugod6972]

@@thealien_ali3382 damn what a good machine you got there sir!

[@mwnciboo]

@@thealien_ali3382 I have a spare i5 4670K with a GTX760. Machine is pretty decent my boi uses it, for things like Farming Simulator! Machine is good.

[@themistoclesnelson2163]

I'm rocking a HP Z600 with dual X5650 and 24 GBs of RAM. Paired it with a 1650 Super. Handles all I need it to.

[@lewistaylor863]

Smiliar - Z600 with two x5670s, 48gb of ram and a GTX1050Ti - got plenty of grunt for most applications and cheap to cobble together

[@jennasmol285]

I recently ditched using a z800 with dual x5670 and 88GB of RAM for a 3600XT based machine. PCIe 2.0 isn't up to much these days, it handled VR gaming just fine but there was cases where the PCIe bandwidth choked my RX 5500XT. The memory latency with ECC wasn't helpful either. Was a great machine though.

[@crylune]

im obsessed with your channel and Dawid's

[@ptzzz]

I agree they have enjoyable and relaxing content

[@matthewplehn4271]

Dawid is awesome...i love RGinHD because he uploads a lot and the material is always interesting

[@mscd9676]

I got an R9 290x for about 80$ converted, I cleaned it, put it in a similar-spec system and it's working quite nicely

[@wjvdweg]

Love your video's. Its so calm and relaxing to watch and gives you ideas for own computer stuff that's lying around to improve. Thanks for this amazing content. Greetings from The Netherlands

[@jasonpollock9259]

I have flipped sooo many of these into basic gaming machines, usually with a GTX 1060 or RX570 added. Also I tend to zip-tie in an 80mm fan to turn it into an active CPU cooler...

[@guywhoknows]

The CPU cooler has a shroud and the front fan is the active cooling.

[@userjames2009]

@@guywhoknows Sounds like some people removed the CPU shroud from the CPU - what an incredibly bad thing to do to a CPU.

[@brick4353]

I think I might start doing the same thing with whatever systems I can find, just for extra cash

[@guywhoknows]

@@brick4353 the amount of people doing this is crazy. The other trick/ scam is to buy a new case with RGB and for a old dell or hp motherboard...a GPU which is usually the fakes that are floating around, or under power GPUs and making wild FPS claims. Best thing to do is build NAS systems, everyone likes storage.

[@jamesr9400]

@@guywhoknows yeah but hes right the cooling provided isnt great,, i added an extra case fan beside my cpu as well

[@huntgar]

A t5500 from the e-cycle shop served me super well. I love it when people learn they can get into PC for a low price

[@TomTheCuber]

Currently writing this from my T3500 :) They are great machines, I've got 12GB RAM, X5670 (six cores) and an RX 480. The six cores are a good upgrade, but still I do agree they aren't really worth pairing with much more than an RX500 series card. They are reaching the end of their lives when it comes to gaming, but for now I think they're perfectly fine for anyone wanting a budget used system!

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Awesome! It’ll be interesting to see just how long they hold on for gaming wise

[@Cricketmane]

Not for the super budget poor people builds. Their lives are just getting started.

[@joefish6091]

@@Cricketmane 2021 Xiden World says hello. Dopey Joe and the gang will have us living in mud huts or FEMA gulags..

[@John_Locke_108]

My T3500 has 12 GB of RAM and a 4 core W3530. Got it for free a few years ago from my father's basement; Using a Radeon 7750 graphics card with a triple monitor setup. So far it's done it's a job as my daily driver. I wanted to use it for a NAS but the complete lack of drive bays made that no go.

[@vicolin6126]

I have one of these T3500's: The stock PSU can easily be swapped out for an aftermarket one. Mine has a EVGA 750w G2 supernova PSU inside it and it fits perfectly, it powers a 6-core Xeon W3690 and GTX 980. My dedicated Win 7 machine :)

[@michaeljestes8673]

These old Dell Precision workstations are awesome. I have two of them in my household, a T3500 and a T5500. the T3500 is great, and I have it outfitted with an X5667 Xeon and a GTX 780 ti. Had to modify power connectors to make it work but the OEM PSU is 525w so its up to the task. The Precision T5500 is where it gets interesting though. Mine came with the X5650 6 core Xeon, and I added a GTX 1080 before this gpu craze. This machine is a little beast and I would highly recommend over the T3500 because it has two six pin connectors for the GPU. BOTH of these systems came in around the same price as a brand new off the shelf graphics card these days, so I see that as a win. Keep up the great content!

[@blazingmatty123]

These old dell precision units are always great, I currently run a T3610 which I paid £150 for, threw an E5 2690 at it, 2x16gb of ram (waiting for funds for another 2x16 lot), and threw a 980ti at it, all in all I'm less than 300 quid into it

[@EscanthonX]

Server parts are awesome. Got a z420 and a xeon e5-2689 (8 cores, 16 threads, boosts to 3.3ghz on all fortunately). It came with 16gb ddr3 1600mhz and a 2tb hdd. I threw in a 1650 super and a 960gb SSD and the thing just flies Edit: got this for a good friend of mine, I have a laptop myself.

[@leeksoup3199]

Your videos are a welcome break from the big, shouty loud American and Canadian PC KZbinrs! You seem like a great guy, keep it up!👍

[@carlolalattacosterbosa5821]

Hey Bro! you are literally making videos about PCs i built in the past for my friends... i made a few t3500 - based gaming pcs, and the ones who asked me that budget pc are still happy today! I am happy to see a channel different from all the others here on youtube! YOU AND THE UKRANIAN GUY WHO TEST X99 CHINA PLATFORMA ARE MY FAVOURITES!

[@DutchMotoRider_]

Yay, vid from HD :D

[@Sayonkiller]

I still have a Dell precision T3600 in my room for almost 2 years now. Despite having a separate system for gaming

[@w9eps5]

I love these type of videos where you upgrade workstation type of computers. Bought RX550 for my potato like 2 week ago inspired by your videos and boy pc gaming is great 😂

[@Erwin23]

Finally a question i've been asking myself for a while now! Not long ago I happened to find out that my first , and rather old , core 2 due e6550 died , but my motherboard still works , so I've been looking for old xeon cpus that maybe I could try to revive my old pc with. Hopefully it is still worth it , because as of now , socket 775 xeons are dirt cheap , at least where I live. Also amazing video ! Keep up the amazing work!

[@antoni8555]

I'm watching this video on this kind of computer

[@shawnbaker1939]

me too

[@jamesr9400]

lol same i love my dell t3500 amazing value

[@justanotherguy3193]

I remember at the trade school I used a T7400, dual socket w/ 2 xeons for a total of 8 cores, with 24gb of ram, 2 R7 low profile cards, thing was really nice, I'd almost take it over my current, thing was a beast

[@joefish6091]

I run dual E5-2690 on X79, and yes BEAST. 16C/32T , 2.9GHz with all core boost to 3.9GHz. cores idle at 800MHz. very nice Xeons, $70 +

[@justanotherguy3193]

@@joefish6091 i think the one i had was running ddr2, if it wasnt for that (or slow ddr3 if it wasnt ddr2) than id probably look at getting one, because of that cpu core count and boost you got

[@joefish6091]

@@justanotherguy3193 server quad channel mean interleaving, so massive RAM bandwidth for DDR3, faster than normal consumer DDR4.

[@justanotherguy3193]

@@joefish6091 im saying the one i had im not entirely sure it was ddr3, i think it was ddr2 but i could be wrong, and i do remeber it being quad channel

[@theshield2004]

I was hoping you’d do a video on this topic! I picked up an E5-2690 (LGA 2011) for $60 after shipping. I paired it with an Intel X79 MB and it runs very well. Very capable chips, even if they aren’t capable of over clocking to 4ghz. I’d love to see more videos on these Xeons. Especially the newer Xeons compared to the i-series/ryzen chips...

[@ianmcass]

I had one of those Dell and absolutely loved it. It was a cracking machine. You can also get a 2nd CPU riser card for that Dell which will let you run 2 x 6-core Xeon with even more RAM. I still have a similar X58 system today with an overclocked 6-core i7-970 and it's still sufficient for what I need.

[@charbo187]

I've got a T3500! Put a x5670 in it. Love it!

[@RealRed01]

Crazy how much graphics cards are getting.. maybe we'll see some drops in the gtx market.

[@Sir_punchwood]

Not until Intel releases their lineup. Demand is just too high. AMD and Nvidia aren't even competing because they can't make enough cards to satisfy demand

[@joefish6091]

@@Sir_punchwood they don't need to, nor want to. it's survival mode time. we are about to go into a depression, we have 40% unemployment now. a 60% worker partIcipation rate .2020 was very bad for industry and economys.

[@UltraGreen77]

Wow I used this pc not long ago as my main gaming pc. Put in an RX 580 and Xeon X5675 and it was pretty nice for 1080p 6ps. So cool to see it being used the way I did too!

[@rkirke1]

I just did pretty much this exact upgrade path on a T3500 I bought last year for a ghetto gaming machine in lockdown! A few things I've discovered: - The PSU can be swapped out, but you'll need to find one with an 8 pin 12V EPS connector for the motherboard. - If you do upgrade the PSU and plan on using a GPU needing a lot more than 150W (the stock slot + 6pin) cooling will likely become the limiting factor. Mine was able to keep cool enough with an R7-260X (115W) with the case closed. With an R9 290X (290W, an extreme example!), even with the stock 2X120mm case fans on full and 2 additional 80mm fans fitted to the rear it would throttle in no time unless the case side was left off. - The biggest limiting factor for upgrades I found was the 3gbps SATA. The only options I found were either a proper workstation HBA card (expensive) , or a PCIe NVME drive and PCIe adaptor (expensive, cannot boot from NVME drives with a BIOS from this era unfortunately) Prices in Australian Dollarydoos so roughly halve these for £. Workstation: $250AU X5690 6 core 3.46GHz: $25AU 12GB ECC DDR3: $40AU Dusty second hand R9 290X: $50AU Junk box old SSD and second power supply (wired up just to power the GPU) Case side has to be left open. I haven't tried it on too many new titles, but it seems to have no trouble maintaining 60FPS in Fallout 4 and Doom Eternal at 1080p with Med-High settings, so I'm happy, considering what most hardware costs over here!

[@bjorndavidmuller4071]

my pc has the same performance as this one, but cost 8 times as much 5 years ago.

[@flick4556]

F

[@thatonewhitedude731]

Big F

[@breakcoregirlxd]

cute pic

[@bjorndavidmuller4071]

@@breakcoregirlxd thanks

[@jackwilson5542]

Well, it is 5 years old... I just upgraded my 6 years old prebuilt system with 1TB SSD (from 1TB HDD), GTX 1650 gddr6 (from GTX 750) and added 8GB DDR4 RAM (to make it 16). It has i5 6400 inside so it is pretty nice matchup.

[@AmanSingh-kg3dj]

THIS IS MY RIG! I upgraded it to a W3680 which is overclockable to 4GHz (Turbo Boost Ratio). BTW you can use Throttle stop and up the power limits so it maintains this My Build has an RX 5600 XT (Bottlenecked Hard)

[@wahajayub5160]

Is the W3680 worth upgrading to? I have a T3500 with a W3530. (And a GTX 1050). But not sure if I should just wait (potentially years) or do a cheap upgrade.

[@AmanSingh-kg3dj]

@@wahajayub5160 Yes definitely, I think the chip your on is 45nm and the W3680 is 32nm. In some games I got another 30fps it's definitely worth it if you plan to stick with this build for a while. Even with the 1050 you will see improvements

[@suprarose1584]

@@AmanSingh-kg3dj Actually, the W3680 is actually worse than the x5670 that I have in mine, which has 6 cores, and 12 threads, compared to 4 and 4, or 4 and 8. And people are overcharging the shit out of them, like 300 bucks sometimes, just because it has a higher number. I just bought my x5670 for 166 dollars, and threw in my GTX 960, and it’s running better than a lot of W3680s I’ve seen on here

[@star5328]

@@suprarose1584 w3680 is 6 cores 12 threads with a 3.6 ghz all core turbo and I believe it's unlocked. A w3680 is better than an x5670.

[@suprarose1584]

@@star5328 no, it’s 4 cores, and 4 threads, or 4 cores and 8 threads. They don’t make em in 6 cores besides from the X56 series

[@hashico]

I used a T5500 up until December, pairing it with a GTX 970 (it was even featured in an episode of Reviewing YOUR Gaming Rigs). Built like a tank, great 1080p machine for about 250€ total.

[@m.saribibrahim3632]

I was recently rocking a xeon X5670 at 4ghz on a Asus P6XDE Premium motherboard with 12 GB ram. Paired with a GTX 1070 the system was pretty balanced. Though in some cpu demanding games gpu Usage did drop to the 80s. The xeon got around 971 points in Cinebench R15. Got the Xeon and Motherboard for only 55 usd at my local used market. Honestly best fun I have ever had overclocking and it seriously shredded all latest titles. BTW huge fan, been watching for 4 years now. Keep up the good work!

[@raughie]

still using Dell Precision T7500 with Intel Xeon x5675 and 48GB of DDR3 inside in this year.

[@Fina1Ragnarok]

And people used to say RDR2 wasn't optimized.

[@lancebermejo3319]

It was because of the crashing

[@smeezekitty]

Well it wasn't. It had updates.

[@Lynnfield3440]

It's not well optimized in my experience. A xeon like this and a ryzen 5 5600x will perform very similarly because even with a 3060ti overclocked, it bottlenecks the cpu at around 70ish fps in the city areas. (This is not at max settings, it was the first favor quality preset). Why would you say it is well optimized?

[@atticussnake1435]

These machines are great. I'm currently using a free(!) ex-industrial T3600 at the moment for gaming with a Xeon E5-1620 . The only thing I bought (2nd hand) was a very cheap 6GB GTX1060. The T3600 uses DDR3 memory - either totally ECC or Non ECC. Careful though! Some of these machines (eg T5500) only use DDR3 ECC Registered RAM which could be costly. Great upload!

[@tawacnt7122]

I'm using one of these systems with a X5650 and 24GB RAM right now as a home server. The EEC support is pretty sweet so it can be more stable when I leave it for a long time with no physical access.

[@Argophobiac]

Got a pair of these workstations locally for $50 TOTAL. They had Xeon dual cores, but had been upgraded with SSDs so that was a nice touch. On eBay I picked up four processors, two W3550s for $2.64 each and two E5649s (hexa-cores) for $6 each. Keep an eye out for auctions and lots of 2, good deals to be had!

[@FrozenIce]

damn those xeons are better than i thought (never owned or witnessed one in action)

[@televisionandcheese]

And this isn't even one of the good ones! The X56*0 xeons are what everyone craves for , and they're like 20-50£ on eBay!

[@FrozenIce]

that's about the price I see core i5 4th gens going for... wow

[@SgtMattBaker1]

This channel answers my questions. In the future, present and past 😂🙏

[@ToaRocky]

Another great video. Something about these old Dells is really appealing

[@nuncioze]

wouldn't turning up the settings in cyberpunk elievate some of the cpu bottleneck?

[@misissj20]

Not just in CP2077, but any other game, also if you would get a better gpu just turn everything to max settings. Ofc there's always some settings that hit the cpu really hard, but most of the time they do nothing to gpu performance.

[@corneliusnowicki5363]

*Are Cheap Quad Core Xeon PCs Still Worth It In 2021?* With my budget... *YES*

[@akiraasakura8190]

i recommend go with x79 or x99 xeon .

[@Lynnfield3440]

For sure, I got a 1156 xeon and its great, a 2060 will bottleneck it and with a 3060ti is will depend on what game and settings you will use. But it's amazing with a cpu from 2009 can do, especially because it was already cheap at the time.

[@certs743]

Great video. You should be able to swap out the PSU for a standard ATX. I have a slightly newer T1600 Precision workstation and I swapped out the PSU with no mods required at all. With 12 GBs of RAM and an RX 570 8GB card I bought a year ago before lockdown has been great. Works a treat for my gaming needs and as a photography and video edition workstation on Linux.

[@bryanbrewer4272]

i own 7 of these and some t3600s . they are great. have an awesome upgrade path.the 3500 is amaxing with the 5690 cpu.

[@GoWstingray]

It’s probably lacking a hardware level instruction that cyberpunk uses so has to do it in software which could explain why it’s pegged at 100%.

[@ptzzz]

It could be the AVX2 instruction set that newer games use

[@lagginswag]

@@ptzzz there was an update/patch for avx i doubt it uses avx2

[@othersideguy16]

cyberpunk had a problem with using AVX but in hotfix 1.05 it was fixed, although prior versions had mods that removed the AVX requirement from the EXE

[@ShrivledAlienLol]

Can a GT 710 run RDR2 at 1440p 144fps medium settings? I bought it for $600 on eBay. The seller says it’s a gaming GPU.

[@comicsans1689]

You got scammed dude. That card is worth around $60, not $600! But to answer your question, I highly doubt that it will run at that framerate at that resolution, but I can't confirm because I don't have that card.

[@wmv337]

Holy shit thats literally my pc. I lifted it from an old job when they got a new workstation for the office. I was using a duel core beforehand, and i can say from personal experience this thing has been a beast. Two 250gb hdd's in raid was a feature i didnt expect but the read/write times are close to what an ssd would be.

[@reallyryan_]

Ah I love this channel so humble :')

[@sus-vg2px]

A great Video Idea. XD 😂 Maybe do a Video about Pairing a RTX 3000 series graphics card with Intel 3000 (ivy Bridge) series vs Ryzen 3000 series

[@comosehace2767]

Would be a 10% less FPS than a 3300x

[@Mini-z1994]

@@comosehace2767 depends on the game really, borderlands 3 you'll see a huge difference.

[@Azerkeux]

@@comosehace2767 It's difficult to bottleneck a processor these days, unless you are trying to push really high frame rate on relatively low resolution I would imagine the difference would be within margin of error with high texture resolution and display resolution- even at 1080 where most gamers still play at it would be a sidegrade at best to go from anything after Sandybridge to an R3

[@comosehace2767]

@@Azerkeux Exactly.

[@lagginswag]

True but there's some combos of hardware and game engines that dont utilize 100 percent gpu. Whether its optimization issues on both ends, or heavy code. Usually that's cpu bottleneck and or hdd paging to ram etc.

[@ArKyt3k]

You should really upgrade this to the x5690 they run about 60 - 70 bucks on ebay and still hold up in performance today!!

[@RandomGaminginHD]

I’ll look out for one :)

[@dermothoyne2393]

Check if the board can support it tho

[@TroyaxHD]

Interesting video! I always look forward to see a video from you pop up in my sub box :) I feel that quad cores are not really the way to go anymore in 2021. Many games now will max out a quad core CPU (as seen in the benchmarks). The framerate is very inconsistent and the 1% and 0.1% lows are not looking to pretty. Therefore I think that this solution is that good of a value anymore. I am running a Xeon 2650 V2 in my main rig at the moment(with a GTX 1070Ti). It has no trouble running all of the newest titles. It even would benefit from a more powerful GPU. A 2650 V2 can be had for under £50. The motherboard can be had for about the same price as the CPU, and the memory aswell. With those parts you'll have a much better gaming experience, along with productivity performance that will give even new hardware a run for their money. Also, the Xeon E5 V3 line is more and more becoming quite a compelling option.

[@Aiijuin]

I LOVE my T3500! I’ve had mine for over five+ years now. I purchased it on eBay for about $150 USD and upgraded my GPU to MSI Gaming 960 4GB later on. It’s a powerhouse of a machine and highly easy to upgrade. HDDs just pop in and out without having to fumble with tiny screws. I was so impressed with my old Dell that in September 2020 I also bought a Dell T7500 and added a 1660 ti GPU (b/c it was the only graphics card available at the time). Then I networked both machines together for a mini 3D render farm. I’m a 3D animator and comic book artist, not a gamer so much (save for Sims 4 on a casual level) - so, I suppose I utilize my Dell Workstations with more designer type applications like Photoshop, Blender, Daz3D Studio, Clip Studio 5 EX, and some video editing software from Corel. These Dells are powerhouses for their old age. I will never trade my T3500, which made me love workstations over any newer PCs.

[@SmelliestStinker]

I swear to god I just ordered one of these from ebay not even 5 mins ago and I come to KZbin and see this.

[@BillyBoy444]

i3-10100: I wish I was as popular as a XEON

[@joefish6091]

it's all about the money, companies always chase after that big $$$ niche market, they. get blinded by VIP profits from rich kids, then reality sets In. politics drives the stock markets ,so we end up with boom bust cycles, and companies and MBAs are desparate to make profits.

[@BillyBoy444]

@@joefish6091 Isn't it kind of funny how intel is now struggling to sell what is basically an i7 rebadged and downgraded to an i3 for a quarter of the price..... but nobody wants a 10th gen i3, even though it's better than a 7th gen i7..... that's some kind of marketing failure right there and it was kind of forced on intel by AMD selling Ryzen CPU's that were much better value $ vs performance. You have to blame intel really for ripping people off all those years selling i7's for overinflated prices...... even a used i7 6th gen costs more than a new i3 10th gen that outperforms it so go figure......

[@blueace1654]

I own a T3500 my self so, its nice to see you review it. My specs: CPU: Intel xeon x5687 4c/8t, 3.6ghz base 3.86ghz single core turbo Ram:12 gb ddr3 1333mhz ecc GPU: EVGA GTX 1060 6GB HDD: Toshiba 1tb 7200rpm SSD: I need to buy one.

[@georgegorge2559]

My daily is a T3500 with the W3690 xeon and a gtx 1660 ti and i have to say that i am very impressed . All games on high setting are perfectly working averaging 130-140 fps with 16 gb of ram. I have to say that all the upgrades were made with time but i am very satisfied:)

[@Samuel-zl7yw]

3:33 "rtx 570". Sorry but I had to point that out :)

[@joynulhaque7586]

He said ITX 570, as in Pulse ITX 570

[@Samuel-zl7yw]

@@joynulhaque7586 Thanks. It sounded really close!

[@Akarsh1305]

Why did u say RTX 570, I was so confused for a second lol

[@kingarthur83rd]

the RTX 5700 tiXT. its a uk specific model 😉

[@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart]

@@kingarthur83rd XTI* eXtreme Titan

[@bgggsht]

TT XTR, if you catch my drift ;)

[@Sp00ns655]

@@kingarthur83rd pretty sure he meant an rx 570. It would make more sensecuz he said it had a single 6 pin.

[@kingarthur83rd]

@SNES Nes i7-4770 / 16gb RAM / 8GB RX580 - can confirm though i will be looking to jump to AM4 soon as i think i need more CPU clout now

[@nerdoswamp]

currently rocking a xeon x3440 overclocked to 3.84ghz and a 1060 3gb, still holding up pretty well!

[@Mariuszbyq]

I've waited a long time for such an episode on this channel. Two years ago, when I sold my old laptop, I bought a Dell Precision T3500 because I needed a cheap computer for work and entertainment. For about 180 euro I got this dell, but with a 6-core Xeon w3690, 12 GB RAM and some weak quadro graphics card. I bought a ssd and a used gtx 1060. It turned out that it was great in games, but I wanted to see where this platform has the limit. Half a year ago I made an improvement by increasing the RAM memory to 24 GB and replacing the gpu with the gtx 1660 super. Almost all games give me well over 60fps and I can't see bottleneck (the exception is AC: Origins / Odyssey where I have fps drops even to 30). I am very pleased with the purchase of this dell because I have a really great machine for work and games on a low budget.

[@junelljabrica5954]

It's weird that I read title "Chad Quad Core Pc" and not "Cheap".

[@nasrmohammed5176]

underrated

[@raude9794]

I am 7 minutes late for this vid

[@natedunn51]

Don't worry I'm 7 hours late for this comment

[@raude9794]

@@natedunn51 😂

[@crystallakedood]

I bought a similar one to this a couple years back, slapped a mid-range graphics card in from a couple generations back, and bam, I had a killer game server/guest PC for a bunch of lightweight games. When friends come over (came over... darn covid), we play Overwatch, Counterstrike, Halo Eldewrito, Smite, Starcraft, among others. Pulls 60 FPS in all those games like a dream at 1080p with the GPU I tossed in.

[@missiondemolition]

I had one similar to that model T5500 that went out with a BANG! It exploded.

[@Imperator23Lp]

I just replaced my old i5 4460 with a „new“ Xeon 1231v3 and it rocks for a cost of 50€!

[@brandonupchurch7628]

Sadly after haswell/broadwell, Intel started locking out Xeon CPUs on desktop platorms.

[@waleedaolnzi1248]

is xeon hexa core good or nah

[@someguywithmtndew5691]

@@waleedaolnzi1248 yes

[@Imperator23Lp]

@@brandonupchurch7628 I know, sadly...

[@waleedaolnzi1248]

@@someguywithmtndew5691 ok dad 😩🥺

[@snakeface5652]

This wouldn't even be good as a workstation now, I'm sure.

[@fullfunk]

yes it is quad core xeon flies at tasks like photoshop, premiere, logic.. just for games isnt that great but a powerful gpu upgrade you can play most games

[@MiGujack3]

This CPU is plenty for a small office database or a file server.

[@snakeface5652]

@@MiGujack3 Probably quite a few of those that still use something like this even

[@MiGujack3]

@@snakeface5652 Oh, they can go even lower than that. I've replaced W Server 2003 machines in 2018...

[@Aspiring-Hobo]

I love the Dell T3500, I've had one for years and years. I still use it as my spare PC as I don't have a laptop or pad. I went from an X5660 to an X5687 because of it's higher clocks

[@SonicHacki]

I just acquired a ThinkStation S20 a few months ago, paired with a Xeon W3550 CPU, 12GB of (no ECC) DDR3 RAM & a used GTX 950 for $30 and tbh it's a pretty decent machine and most games run okay on it :) (on med/low setting)

[@TedPhillips]

for a free-to-cheap price to get your build started, yes. you'll need a gpu, but i think that's unavoidable. other upgrades for x58 are CHEAP and easy to come by.

[@jamesr9400]

where the hell you be finding these for free? i'll take one

[@Cricketmane]

Not where I'm at. I got lucky to find a working Q6600 for 10$. Anything old now is either overpriced or startimg to fail/ already broken.

[@EsotericStarWarsRubbish]

Short answer: no Long answer: *ah hell no*

[@RoomerJ]

10-20.00 cpu upgrade would be more than enough to run modern titles fine. Upgrade the motherboard and the cpu with a better xeon on this socket, easily competes with current cpus. Just wouldn't recommend this quad core, this specific one especially

[@SHADOWZXF]

Always interesting content :)

[@dionelr]

I still have an X58 system as a secondary machine (I upgraded to ryzen a couple years ago). Found an X5675 on eBay for less than $20 and got a 1650 for it last year. It’s a great machine even though it’s 11 years or so old.

[@VishalGude]

Claim your "here within an hour" ticket right here.

[@rahulpandit1749]

R/noonecares

[@atecgaming716]

Ran a T3500 I got from my work for $40, upgraded it with a $20 6 core X5670, and a MSi GTX 970 I had from my previous Q9550 build(had to swap in my EVGA 500w). Was my gaming/recording rig for about a year till I "upgraded" to a gigabyte board and a proper computer case. The main games I played/recorded was Fallout 4, Subnautica, Minecraft, FO76 and a few others. All saw around 50-60fps, although 76 and Subnautica often saw drops to around 40fps and even 30fps. BTW you have the better of the two stock CPU coolers, the more common version is just a block of aluminum with some slots cut into it.

[@Jim-qc4nb]

I had this PC until earlier this yr. I put a $60 6c/12t Xeon in and a GTX 1660 and was great!!! Great machine, super upgradable.

[@NoName-xt6tx]

Just upgraded from this a couple months ago served me for 2 and a half years well.

[@SyxxFtH8]

I absolutely loved this video. I have this exact system as my gaming pc. I upgraded it to 48gb of memory, an x5680 CPU, an Asus 1660 Super OC card, and a 500gb SATA boot drive and 4tb HDD. It plays everything at amazing speed and quality in 1080p.

[@jamiechampion299]

I still use my T3500 daily. I've got a 6 core Xeon X5675 in it, 24GB of RAM, a 3TB HDD and a couple graphics cards. It still performs wonderfully, and I only paid $35 for mine including the upgraded CPU and the RAM.

[@itstheterranaut]

Wow, was just reinstalling Win10 on my T5500 not 30 mins ago! 32Gb, X5670, SSD, etc. Works well.

[@undertone2472]

Nice I got a T3500 with a Xeon x5675 as my server box. An old X58 workstation like this is great for that purpose. Noted keepin a Xeon x5675 temps down in this rig is tough. Go for the Xeon x5650 and you are good and those are cheap

[@cadugan11]

One of my home computers is a Dell T-5500 with dual 6 core Xeon processors, 48GB of RAM, and a modest video card. I think I am going to turn it into a NAS, as it already has 3 TB storage in it. I love these old Dells. They are proprietary, but upgradable enough. It does take a minute to find all of the case releases at first, but everything largely makes sense. They are densely packed, but everything is accessible. Fun systems to play around with.

[@gaminggutta1686]

Love your content!

[@waleedaolnzi1248]

I know 👴🏿

[@woohoo2491]

I've got one of these with a W5580 in it. Gonna give it to a friend who needs a budget desktop "powerhouse" for video editing stuff. These things are still really good for their age. One thing I want to mention though, since I don't think you mentioned it in the video, the Xeons from this era (the first gen Core-i era) ARE overclockable if you have a W or X model. It's not something you can set in the BIOS but some people have reported that Throttlestop will work once you boot into an OS. Apparently it only works with certain types of boards, and only if you have 1 physical CPU installed in the system, but give that a try and let us know if it works for you.

[@startedtech]

I had the mini tower version of the T3500 a few years ago. Upgraded it to a 6 core Xeon for $20 on ebay.

[@johnroberts2905]

I've got one which came with a W3503 2.4GHz dual core! Happily runs Windows 10 as my second rig - flies now it's got a X5672 in it. It'll also run 48GB RAM with a 5xxx chip.

[@steampunkstar_raisin]

You can buy the power supply from a Dell T5500 that is 875W and can fit perfectly into the modular connector. The 875w power supply upgrade is about $70 on ebay...

[@dimitrilensflareabrams2893]

Where a friend used to work a few of those old tanks were still motoring around after 9 or 10 odd years of continuous operation.

[@dimitrimichaux461]

I had an i5-3300, my motherboard was compatible with certain Xeon processors so I put an E3-1245v2 in there last year for 60 EUR. It's good enough to play new titles at 60fps 1080p medium now, in combination with my 1660S. Getting through the lockdown on a budget and I luckily bought everything before the shortages.

[@SeeTheWholeTruth]

Very cool choices, and should be a good way to sell some of your video cards you got working for a tidy profit!

[@RapRockManiac]

I own a T3610 with 64GB RAM and an RX580 with an SSD. I made some cooling mods and it is still a beast

[@QwerticPlayz]

I have a Xeon X5660 overclocked to 4.2GHz on an Asus P6T motherboard with 12GB (triple channel of course) HyperX 2004MHz memory (oc) running with a GTX 1080. And I love it can't recommend x58 enough. Great learning experience working with this setup!

[@maug314]

I actually picked up a pair of these for my boys about 2 years ago. They're still holding strong, and I upgraded from the original W3530 (2.80GHz QC) to an X5677 (3.46GHz QC), for a very minor cost. They both still had the same 12GB as this, and I have AMD FirePro V7900 in each. Not a great gaming GPU, but it's been enough to hold them over til I can find a good pairing on a newer one. But yeah, overall it's been a solid computer, a fair amount of options and will likely be usable for another 1-2years until I upgrade them again.

[@candidosilva7755]

It performed very wel beter than i expected

[@saboorshahid5307]

Thanks i was just thinking of buying it

[@dreadskeleton]

My T7400 was paired with a gtx 970 for 5 years, it was a beautiful behemoth.

[@AaronHendu]

My PC has been based around a T3500 for quite awhile, but about all that is left from it is the motherboard. I bought a $15 W3570 CPU, which has an unlocked multiplier, which I run at 3.86GHz, tossed in a bunch of mismatched 2GB sticks of DDR3 1333. Swapped it into a Corsair Carbide case I modified to fit everything, Corsair 600W PSU, 120GB SATA SSD+1TB HDD...and was running a 290X until it died and had to replace it with an RX 580 8GB. I had always planned to upgrade CPU to $40 W3680 (6C/12T, unlocked multi, 32nm), but haven't bothered yet. Oh, I also added five inexpensive ARGB ring fans which were about $30 and have been surprisingly good so far.