Are FORM Goggles New Training Plans Worth Following?

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[@Ineddiblehulk]

It’s just the subscription that turns me off. Otherwise I’d have bought a pair. Glad they’re sponsoring the channel though.

[@ianmacnz9045]

Have you thought about creating a Form plan - based on drill s you recommend - I am sure that would garner a lot of interest.

[@ajgonza12]

Is there a way to know what is the pace equivalent to easy, mod, strong or fast? Does the plan adapts and gets personalized?

[@jazznroll5]

1 - you can not create or add you own or third party plans. 2 - the subscription is way too expensive. 5 dollars are more reasonable. 3 - if you just want to see your real time data, forget it, you are obliged to have an active subscription. This is bad. 4 - if you buy it and use the for 2 years, you have paid 480 dollars for a pair of goggles

[@FORMswim]

Thanks for the great feedback and suggestions. We're sorry that creating your own workout plans isn’t something you’re able to do at this time, but we have passed your comment on to our Product team! Please send us a DM as we’d love to hear more about how this feature would be helpful to you in the future. With the FORM membership, you'll have access to a library with hundreds of guided workouts and training plans. You'll sync the workout to your goggles, and you'll see your workout instructions and real-time metrics in your goggles in the water. We find that many swimmers see the membership as a valuable investment but we'll be sure to share your feedback with the team.

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[@jazznroll5]

@@FORMswim Thank you for your reply. I am sure that there are people who see the membership as a valuable investment. However in my case, as a person you enjoys sports and occasionally does a triathlon, i don't follow swimming plans, i just focus on the basics and i prefer the convenience to have my data in front of my eyes and see how the data changes real time when i change my stroke, than to have to brake my stroke to look at my watch or analyze my swim afterwards. I am sure that there are many people like me out there. The price you want me to pay does not justify the benefit i will get. As an example i bought a forerunner 955 for 500. I am expecting to use it for at least 3 years and see a ton of data for all three sports in triathlon and more. The use of your product will cost me 720 for 3 years and see a fraction of triathlon data compared with my 955. I would suggest you to reconsider you pricing approach. Thank you

[@tedsvo9745]

@@FORMswim I noticed in your reply that you don’t reference @jazznroll5’s point #3. Instead of making your subscription as useful as possible, you’ve disabled an existing feature of the goggles (real-time metrics and OWS support) and put it behind a subscription. I was quite interested in potentially subscribing to FORM but knowing that they turn into nothing more than a pair of goggles if I pause my subscription has totally changed the value proposition for me.

[@AndrewShakespeare]

I've had these for a while and they are great. However, the new subscription model is ridiculous for the many swimmers who either don't need workouts and plans, or have a coach who has their own plans and workouts and can't upload them.

[@petercarroll3251]

Was keen but don't require a subscription or plans, nor does my entire squad who were looking into getting a pair. Pity, because the data is useful. I coach a swim (not triathletes) performance squad 14-17 years old. Not affordable with the subscription for these age groupers.

[@prawn5148]

do the workouts still work with pools of different lenghts? In my Case 33,3 Meter?

[@glennp944]

Do these form googles work with people who normally use reading glasses ??

[@SuperCuriouss]

Just a bit disappointing that they still don't support Garmin Epix2 or Samsung for open water swimming. Only up to Garmin 945 and Applewatch. Pool swimming is fine i guess.

[@FORMswim]

Rest assured, the Garmin Epix2 is fully supported for open water swimming with the goggles! We're sorry that we don't support the Samsung smartwatches but I will let the product team know that you would like to be able to connect Samsung smartwatches with the goggles. You can also still use the goggles on their own in open water. This lets you track your time and real time stroke rate while you swim, and if you have the Polar Verity Sense or OH1/OH1 + sensor, you can monitor your heart rate in real time. You would also be able to review your average stroke rate and calories in the workout summary after you saved your swim. You can view the full list of compatible watches on our site here: support.formswim.com/hc/en-us/articles/360047822373.

[@40tired]

Why do interval training or sprints when training for half or full irons? Pick a distance between 1 and 2.4 miles and swim it non stop at differing intensities based on your rest status. Seems weird to me that stopping every 100, 200 yards etc would be enticing when the actual event gives no stops. Can anyone answer this?

[@KerenWang]

Interval training

[@40tired]

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[@matthewbenton11]

Don’t care for the subscription. Also the goggles are way too bulky and gave me a head ache. They blasted off my face on a Flip turn

[@FORMswim]

We're sorry to hear that you had issues with the goggles' design and comfort. The goggles were designed to fit most adult faces and changing the nose bridge or adjusting the strap usually helps with the fit. We recommend to try all nose bridge sizes, sometimes the one you least expect is the one that fits. We find that many swimmers see the membership as a valuable investment but we'll be sure to share your feedback with the team. We’re always looking to improve, so thank you for taking the time to share this with us.

[@matthewbenton11]

@@FORMswim thank you for the response. It was not a sealing issue. I have perfect seal swimming but the extra force from pushing off the wall would catch the entire bulk of the goggles this breaking that seal and letting water in. To fix this to only way to prevent this would require me to tightened them soooo much that it actually was incredibly uncomfortable and gave me a headache after 10 minutes.