Are Indiana Jones' Boots Worth $655? (Alden Indy Review, 2023 Update)

[@shootjase]

that whole rose anvil controversy was interesting. and im sure the comments for this video will play out the same way. the ones who have actually worn and own indys will all say theyre worth it, and those who cant afford it and never worn a pair will all say "see, i told you grant stones and thursdays are better! indys suck, leatherboard!"

[@Stridewise]

dude this is exactly it! there's this idea "Leather = more natural = better than leatherboard = these boots are too expensive!" and then people who actually wear them... well you said it perfectly. I hereby pin this comment!

[@duytanmai8590]

I'm the third category, I can afford them but will never buy. Have multiple pairs from Tricker's and Crockett and jones and those are worth it.

[@drzaius844]

100%. I don’t have the 405, although I will probably get a pair someday. I do have an Alden cap toe and a wingtip boot as well, easily the most comfortable boots I own, and the lasts are more elegant than Grant Stone. I love GS but if you want the ultimate in comfort and a more elegant last, Alden is the way to go, and there aren’t a lot of alternatives. Maybe Parkhurst, you can save a couple hundred, but they have one last, hope that one last works for you cause that’s your only option. Ealdwine has a lot of great Alden makeups, and The Shoe smart does as well. Figure out what last works the best for you and go Alden, you won’t regret it.

[@shootjase]

@@Stridewise haha im honored!

[@johnnyregs2378]

Grant Stones are objectively better made boots, you can't really argue that. Alden is ripping people off.

[@locngo5066]

The problem here is Alden uses cheap(er) material but still charging premium price. If Alden decides to use leather board because of their design focus on comfort/flexibility etc. it's OK, just don't charge premium price and lower the price. I think Alden cheap out on material is just a way of saving cost and increase profit 🤷

[@josephc4119]

Based on what guys like Wyatt from Grant Stone and Nick Horween have said in podcasts, I don't think the use of full leather materials would change the manufacturing cost much at all. The biggest reason for the high cost is the retail store model that Alden uses, which Nick talked about in the video. If Alden sold these direct to consumer, at say 30% less than current price, that'd put them around the $450 price point, which most people seem to feel is more appropriate.

[@locngo5066]

@@josephc4119 a 59"x 39.5" leather board is priced around $33.24 compared to 10" x 15" veg tan sole leather is priced around $22.95. By square inches, a veg tan leather sole is around $0.168 per square inch while a leather board is around $0.014 per square inch. That's 12 times cheaper if using leather board material instead of full grain veg tan leather.

[@HeritageCast]

Exactly use a D quality leather from a top tannery. Lets also consider the fact the Canada is just China now anyways. So your telling me you cant source some leather from China, when they literally occupy that country lol...

[@MyHallothere]

​@@josephc4119it adds up, you save $2 dollars on 1000 boots now you've saved $2000. Scale matters and any claim otherwise is just marketing to try and justify

[@markcollins2704]

​@@josephc4119for WHATEVER reason 655 for these is Insane

[@texasbryan]

I love my Indy’s (403)…BUT I would agree with Rose Anvil, they are overpriced considering the materials used. Should be $450 tops imo.

[@brunonjezic6208]

Would buy them in a hartbeat for 450

[@MrCamel2humps]

Agreed. You’re paying for the gimmick because Indy’s name is attached to them.

[@josephc4119]

If Alden used a direct to consumer model, they would be around $450. They don't, because they don't want to abandon their retail stores that have sold their shoes for decades.

[@jihigh482]

​@@josephc4119If they used a direct to consumer model they could sell it for less than 450. 450 should be their price now. They are overpriced. Drop the excuses

[@vksjd]

I wish you had addressed the coating on the leather. For me, that was the biggest negative in Rose Anvil’s dissection. Do all the colors have coating or just certain ones?

[@american_psycho1147]

Just that one color that Rose Anvil specifically got so he could make a big deal out of it for his clickbait channel

[@Joebonesy]

@@american_psycho1147100% facts lol!

[@franky3fingers337]

@@american_psycho1147well he does use 405’s because they the most popular model and THE Indy boot. Not because they use that leather.

[@GianmarioScotti]

Nevertheless, it's very concerning that Weston's $900 boots literally fell apart after a month of use, and the eyelets were cutting into the laces. That cannot be justified in any way.

[@tw_judy]

I agree with Rose Anvil mostly, but sharp metal eyelets is pretty common on a lot of boots. I had really nice Guarded Goods laces snap on me while wearing my Nicks Boots, i just grabbed some pliers and bent them a bit so they weren't as tight and used a file to soften the edge

[@InGrindWeCrust2010]

The stock laces on Indies suck, which doesn't help.

[@optimal8155]

I think it was 6 months for him.

[@davidpalmer9014]

I think Weston's point was perhaps over time they started cutting corners with materials, yet still changing near $700. Unless I'm misunderstanding. That said, if the money was no object, I'd probably buy a pair.

[@Nick-ul2bp]

Weston literally just did a video last week where he cut a 30 year old pair in half only to find the construction was very nearly the same as the new pair he cut in half, yet people have been buying them for 30 years and not complaining up until he went and cut that first pair in half.

[@prplhze2000]

actually he showed they used better materials in the older pair. I think what happened is that $30 million embezzlement burned Alden bad, much worse than we know and forced them to cut corners. @@Nick-ul2bp

[@thelastclone]

I got my 405's from the Alden Shop in San Francisco. Jim was amazing and very much voiced that Alden LOVES Indy fans, which was a sigh of relief being in such a high end shoe store. I measured on the Brannock device for a 7.5 but we both found the BEST FIT was a 7. This is based on where the widest part of the foot is and not the length of the foot as that is what makes the boot a good fit. Therefore I recommend 1/2 a size down unless you can be present in the store and try on the pair yourself.

[@RoyalJesusChrist]

No one mentions the fact that this boot is 850 EUROS, its absolutely crazy

[@brunonjezic6208]

And in Europe they are mostly only avalable in standard D/B width. No C and no EEEEE

[@ComboSlicer]

this is a curse with most Made in USA products in Europe, very high price and not much to choose from.

[@brunonjezic6208]

@@ComboSlicer yep. And when importing the exchange will be from 50e to 100e as standard

[@american_psycho1147]

Absolutely insane to me how much Alden keep raising the price. I got my Indys for 575 in 2021 and that was already overpriced from how much they were even a year or 2 before that. Now they're 655? What is going on with Alden that they have to keep raising the price like this?

[@StolenAlias]

This is the thing that pisses me off. I absolutely understand why people love them, but you cannot defend something that is just objectively overpriced (from a value standpoint). Let alone a company that for seemingly no reason hikes up prices.

[@aurthordunne]

Inflation was definitively a factor. Everything went up a lot.

[@jeffos8724]

US workers (union I believe) ... with out of control US heath insurance

[@jtee5957]

For me, the Indy comfort comes from: No break in, wide last for toes, comfy conforming footbed and narrow heel that secures back of foot. Aside from the metal shank that provides general stability for mid foot, the arch is low and unnoticeable. I have high arches so it might feel different to the flat footed.

[@el0blaino]

Agree. Surprised how immediately I felt good in them. I’ve got a pair of Trickers that gave me nightmares I was in such pain, and the seller pleaded for me to stick it out, they’d become perfect. I said, I will never wear these! So I sent them back for s half size bigger. A year later one boot was now too big, to the point I get blisters! A great looking boot but I can’t trust it like I can the Aldens.

[@jacobjackson950]

Great video! You present a good alternative pov to Rise Anvil’s. On the similar boots section you forgot to mention Grant Stone’s brass boot. Slightly less dressy, but much cheaper and I think better made. I’ve got a black cxl leather pare and I love them. *I also have a pair of Red Wing lineman boots with a cork nitrile outsole and I haven’t had any issues with traction. I wish redwings still used that outsole for the iron ranger and blacksmith boot!

[@Stridewise]

I'd probably suggest Grant Stone's Ottawa as an Indy alternative, despite the plain toe it's overall much closer to it. Good comment though Jacob! I love nitrile cork hey, it's too bad these days people just won't buy flat soles

[@USDAselect]

I love the look of the Indy but I've never worn one because the price is too steep. I remember when a 405 cost $500 and still thought they were expensive. I went for the next best thing, which is the Parkhurst Niagara, an absolutely solid boot. I love it's look (a mock moc toe like the Indy) and it's storm welt construction is dearly cherished and at ~$400 might I add that it was worth every penny.

[@goodyearspokane]

But at least you can buy Indy's....if Parkhurst were to make their boots in decent size batches where not all boots will sell out in a month they would add $100 to the price Parkhurst are good value if you are quick

[@aurthordunne]

I have the same parkhurst. Solid build.

[@duytanmai8590]

I have a pair of Parkhurst. Absolutely love them.

[@Crackers2549]

I'm going to say it again, I was wrong about Alden Indy's....! Been wearing boots for years and I finally broke down and bought a pair of Indy's and now I have 3 pairs because they are the most comfortable, best fitting boots I have ever worn and I love them...! Are they worth the money, YES for me they are, because of the fit, and finish on the 3 pairs I have purchased…. All 3 are made with quality leathers... I don't care about a piece of heel block that is not pure leather, it makes no difference for me.... Two of my pairs have the commando sole and my 405’s the standard cork rubber .... I can wear these boots all day without any foot discomfort.....That Tru Balance last makes them fit like a glove....I can't say enough good things about these Indy's and only wish I had purchased them sooner...! Excellent video as usual Nick… You’re the reason along with JD, that I started buying Alden’s…!5 STARS ...GG

[@HemingwayJones]

Great job with this one! Super comprehensive and compelling. You words still ring in my ears, “You really need some Alden Indy’s.” Yes, I do. All the best.

[@alanward4671]

1. Beautifully streamlined video, not a word wasted. You're making this an artform. 2. "plus Alden has spent 150 years refining their lasts" - I was so sure you said Buzz Aldrin, and all I could think was that guy is just amazing.

[@BenaiahPS]

This was a very compensative review, but it doesn't really answer the question of why it cost so much. It seems like they charge over $600 just because they can. People are paying an extra $200 just for a fancy last. Maybe folks think it's worth the price, but they should acknowledge they are paying for the name.

[@SeeveJo]

I think Aldens Indys fill a purpose. The look, the last, and the lightweight. The problem is the price. It's expected to pay more for American made and the movie popularity. But its the amount of profits the company is extracting. Cause they are saving a bunch of money on the construction. These should be 4-500 dollars not 650.

[@chalkboardshoes]

One thing about Alden boots is that their lasts are better for some people like myself. The modified last works so much better for me than any other boot last I have tried. I don't like the price, but the fit is the best.

[@notthatproud7453]

Couple thoughts: First, it’s worth talking about how Alden’s business model actually gives consumers tons of options with this shoe. All the retail stores can order shoes with different leathers, different welts, different hardware, different soles. There are so many options beyond the basic 405 or 403. If you’re concerned about the leatherboard midsole, you might be able to find one with a double leather sole, which means leather midsole and leather outsole. Alden Madison has one right now. Second, for me, it’s hard to say this shoe is worth it at $700. I have a pair of Grant Stone Brass boots and they are fantastic. High quality construction, good fit, just good looking boots. They’re half the cost. At the high end, there is the White’s Stevens boot, which fits into same role, looks great, has good construction, and is made in the US for $700. I think the Whites are a better value than the Indy. Even so, I’m going to buy some Indy’s. I know they’re overpriced. They are still iconic, and nothing else is quite like them.

[@markgillum5709]

Excellent points. In terms of heritage, joining the Alden club, and having Indiana Jones' boot, it's a yes. In terms of construction, build quality and materials, even fit and feel, the boot is overpriced in today's market. In other reviews Nick highly praised Grant Stone among others, in particular the Brass Boot which is closest in build, and look than the Ottawa. Grant Stone also has a lot of heritage coming from their own connection with Alden. While not billed as an orthopedic shoe, the fit and feel of the Brass Boot equals, if not surpasses that of the Indy at half the cost, and uses premium leathers as well. One of the better values out there. And their accessibility and QC/CS far exceeds Alden. But that's another story. Parkhurst also makes a better constructed boot. All things considered, people have different reasons for buying boots and while that is true, the reality is compared to others in the space now, the Indy has been overpriced for some time now and living on heritage and factors other than value.

[@notthatproud7453]

@@markgillum5709 I agree with all that, and I love Grant Stone. I'm excited to see what they have coming up in the fall. They have a new brogued cap toe service boot that looks fantastic. I don't own any Aldens, but I have been to a few stores that stock them. Holding them in your hand, they feel like a solid boot. I am not intending to buy any without looking at the shoe and checking for QC issues. I am less concerned about the leatherboard. Yes, it's not leather, but I don't think it's going to wear out quickly. And if I get them resoled, I can have that replaced. The boot shouldn't be like that. It is overpriced. I think it will also last a long time, though.

[@HeritageCast]

How about a business model where you dont scam customers, You dont use bots and scam artists on Reddit to gaslight customers to buy a $200 boot with cardboard. And the fact this is a foreign company, selling a scam product in the USA. I hope the FTC and CFPB gets involved this the definition of false claims...

[@Angel-AbC9]

Parkhurst.

[@Angel-AbC9]

Indy shouldn't be in boot category , it's a dress to casual shoe

[@DOUBLEJ-km7kk]

GREAT VIDEO ! Stridewise ! can you please have a special on deciphering the date codes and the changes to logos on sock liner over the years , changes in linings etc. so we can better date our Aldens.....are my boots from 88 or 98 or 2008 and so on....looking at the stitching, the sole, the heel stack, the lining, etc. can we do a special on that ?

[@mikem2132]

I just ordered a pair of 401 Indy Boots from the Shoe Mart, should arrive next week. I’ve always had to wear arch support inserts or I get back pain, hopefully I won’t need them with the Indy boots.

[@Stridewise]

I mean I can't give medical advice but I know a ton of folks with that kind of foot pain who were saved by the Indy Cool you got the 401 too!

[@mikem2132]

@@Stridewise Right, that’s the reason I bought them. I saw your review with the guy who said he had foot problems and decided to give it a try. It seems like the 401 from the Shoe Mart is the same calf skin leather as the 405, just a different color. I like black boots and just think it can match more of my clothing. Thanks for your reviews!

[@mikem2132]

@@Stridewise I just got my 401 in the mail and I’m trying them on for the first time right now. These are the best boots I’ve ever worn, thanks for the reviews!

[@rraposo7353]

You have to wonder if Alden isn’t hiking up prices significantly in the wake of a huge embezzlement scandal from a few years ago. Their CFO embezzled something around $30 million from the company, and that money was spent, not sitting in an account. They’re possibly making up for enormous losses , especially for a company that size. Key word “possibly”. We’ve no way of knowing why this is happening, but this seems like a plausible explanation for the price hikes.

[@Bootlosophy]

I’ve been waiting for this one. Nicely balanced Nick, nicely balanced 👍

[@billybob7088]

Painted leather...is what got me on the Rose Anvil

[@VladimirIlitsjLenin]

Hi Nick - great review, as always. What shirt are you wearing in this video? Been looking around for a similar blue chambray shirt for ages! Thanks in advance!

[@Stridewise]

oh that's taylor stitch's! i think it's the california they call it? I've got a Kato chambray shirt too I'm selling if you want to DM me haha

[@billystpaul8907]

Torn between you and Weston. I get most of my info on boots from both of your channels. $655 is a lot for a pair of boots for me. I own Danner, Red Wings and Thursdays. I have also just ordered another pair of Whites. And, I don't have a issue with any of them. I would order a pair of Aldens if they where $200 bucks less. I am finally going to buy a pair Allen Edmonds Higgins Mill boots and I can live with that price..Thanks for another good video..

[@HeritageCast]

Nothing to be torn about. There is either cardboard in your boot or there isnt. I would save up $800 and have Franks make you piece of art. And buy some Rockrooster $100 modctoes till you get Franks in hehe... Ps Franks will custom make anything you want...

[@optimal8155]

Would you suggest sizing down in the width?

[@stephenbaron5681]

Nick I am so glad you made this video, I worked in the fiber industry for 40 years. Natural fibers + chemicals (when done right) can provide a superior product to a 100% natural product. I also like Weston and I love leather. It is not an ether/or proposition. There is room for both based on mission.

[@digovii]

You bring up some really good counterpoints to Rose Anvil. I do think both mindsets are justified in their own way. I will say though, that boot is mighty fine in black cxl!

[@drzaius844]

Wyatt, the owner of Grant Stone, said in an interview that if he could only own 10 pairs of shoes, he would have 10 pairs of Alden’s. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Alden haters. Alden offers footwear in a variety of lasts, most of which are both orthopedic AND more elegant than cheaper alternatives like Grant Stone (which I love BTW) or Parkhurst or Allen Edmonds - with those brands, you get one last for each model, hope you like it - you have no options. Their lasts are more generous, they cast a broader net, with the downside being less elegance and less arch support. I have many boots, and I value my Aldens for their combination of style (they get the most compliments BTW, so the appeal is universal) and comfort, and the heritage. Not cheap, but there isn’t really any alternative that competes at the Alden level. I don’t know a single person who has owned Aldens who doesn’t love them.

[@franky3fingers337]

✋- worn Alden’s since 2009 owned 405’s, 4011HC, 1272S Kudu Chukkas, Full strap loafers in brown and black calfskin. Sorry dont love any of them, sold the 405, gave away the 1272S which aren’t Kudu btw. They are like a waxed CXL and get gross feeling, and put the loafers in storage. They are good shoes but not great. FYI my most comfy boots are horse butt Viberg 2030’s.

[@randynovick7972]

I have three pairs of Indys - a color 8 shell pair (more dressy, but with commando soles), a black pair with the flat rubber soles (more casual), and a pair of calf 403s (I think) with the commando sole. I also have a pair of Parkhurst Niagaras. I do think that the Niagara is the boot that more fits my likings, though, because it's got stiffer, thicker leather, a more lugged sole and the tongue doesn't fly around all over the place. The quality issues with the Aldens (2 out of the 3 pairs had significant defects - all resolved eventually with help from a cobbler and the fine folks at Alden Madison) - however, these make it hard for me to consider getting another pair - I'd probably go secondhand, tbh. Alden has the look, though. So when I buy them I'm really buying for the look and the amount of freedom I have in what I can wear them with. I'll pay a bit more for the genuine article.

[@aurthordunne]

Full leather soles form to my feet way better than leather board does in my opinion. I have both, I definitely prefer full leather.

[@simonmandrakejones]

I am going to have to rewatch Weston's video. I think (and I could be wrong) that he acknowledged the boots are comfortable but wasn't sure that they were that much more comfortable than other boots in a similar or lower price range. Being in Europe, they are a little expensive for me unless I can find a decent pair on eBay. A lot of people (and a lot of KZbinrs) rave about how great these boots are. So I won't discount that.

[@Stridewise]

I'm a big advocate of getting boots on eBay or Grailed, like I say in the video. Half off and they'll still last decades!

[@1k1ngst0n]

excellent review and thank you for re-reviewing the Indy boot!

[@jiafei6833122]

Recently acquired a pair of barely worn navy suede indies from Grailed for $300. The only complaint I have right now is the non-gussets tongue. the tongue on my left foot always slide to the side. Not a deal breaker, just annoy. Don’t know why alden refuse to semi gusset their boots. Would never buy a pair of alden at MSRP though. The price is just ludicrous now.

[@d05wtt]

What jeans are you wearing on the left side at the 4:10 mark? It’s gorgeous.

[@Stridewise]

that's sapphire slub! japan blue collab

[@d05wtt]

@@Stridewise TY. That pair is beautiful.

[@DalesLeatherworks]

Fantastic fresh perspective on the topic Nick!!! Keep up the great work

[@dahak972]

I don’t know. My Red Wing Moc Toes are half the price and unbelievable comfortable, after the break-in.

[@wompa70]

I still can’t see buying one pair of boots when I could get three or four pair of Jim Green. Their most expensive is $229 right now.

[@franky3fingers337]

Not even sure how these brand would be comparable. Alden’s are made to look good with chinos, a tie and sport coat. They aren’t made for landscaping or running around the bush like JG’s. Come on man.

[@jimmccoys5778]

I think the shape of the Indy is what attracts me! I have 3 pairs of Indy’s along with several other brands and the shape is just so hard to copy and beat! You are correct, there is no substitute for it! The price is ridiculous though! I have never paid retail and will not!! Thanks again

[@brunonjezic6208]

They are really comfy but in Europe they are really over CXL Viberg prices. Holding them in hand i just cant pull the trigger due to the weird stitching for that price. But so comfy and beautiful design. Hopefully i find some second hand in future. I feel I couldn't live with my self for paying 850e for it as it is.

[@daniellavery6667]

At $655 when buying domestically in the US, there is a still a big conversation on whether or not they are worth the price, and that's a few hundred USD cheaper than a pair of Vibergs over here. 850 euro is a step up from there, and seems hard to justify.

[@brunonjezic6208]

@@daniellavery6667 here is the thing because Viberg is similar and same in some retailers, there is only few to begin with. But few Alden ones are all up in the price considerably

[@jeffe.9904]

Hey Stridewise thanks for the Review & I love your channel. I haven't been able to afford the Alden Indy's yet but hopefully I will soon. Anyways, I'm a little surprised that more people don't talk about "Wested" boots that are made in Great Britain. They make an Indiana Jones Adventure Boot (Alden Copy), they are very comfortable, Look Good, And are less than 200 bucks! I know most traditionalist will not like them, but I believe they are a Great value, Well made, and again...Very comfortable! Anyways, thanks for your review.

[@jameslarue2878]

Small correction. I don't think Weston ever said they were bad boots, just over-priced for the materials. I've watched enough boot repair videos now to see his point about leatherboard. I wound up buying some Alden plain toes that share many characteristics with the Indy, and I like them a lot. But I got them at 50% off. I'm enjoying your revisit videos.

[@josephlopez2228]

How do these compare with the vanguards?

[@dahak972]

What leather jacket is that at the 0:05 mark?

[@NDB469]

Love my 403’s, bought about 5 years ago. Can’t complain at all. Wear them casually but they’re holding up nice. Great patina, when I first got them I was like wow very well made, but they look weird! lol. After about a week of wear I was sold.

[@ynysvon]

I now have mixed feelings about these boots. In the UK, these boots brand new will cost over £700 about $ 850. I have seen a pair on eBay in very good condition for £250. After watching the Rose Anvil video, even that price seemed high for what you're getting. Now,after this review, I am looking at them from a different perspective. They might not have the same materials and build quality of a Nicks or White's for the same price, but I will only wear them for casual use, and for that reason, as pointed out they do seem a better option.

[@Nathan-zw7nq]

I have never owned a pair of Alden’s so I can’t say anything about it. But I do own some whites Cruisers and Fulton Moc Toe as well as a pair of JK OT Bison boots. The Cruisers are a boot I wear in more dress up situations and after they are broken in they are Uber comfy, great arch support, proper width in the heel and instep of the foot and my feet snap into place when I put them on. But because it is an all leather boot, and I only wear them a handful of times a month, it took probably 3 months to break them in and it was a bit brutal. Mostly breaking in the full leather insole and midsole was harsh. With my Fulton Moc toe and OT Bison boots, they broke in in about a week because they are work/hiking boots and I would wear them a lot to break them in quickly. And the are also extremely comfortable. I would love to get some Alden’s and some Alternatives like the JCrew’s or something to compare long term.

[@kevinbowie9]

Re leather board vs price…$700 dress shoes definitely don’t use leather board and manage better stitch per inch. Still not sure theres a good “benefit” argument. If there was, north Hampton would start using it, no?

[@HeritageCast]

You my Sir, Live the Thug Lyfe lol....

[@sackman1886]

In fairness, I am chiming in with this comment prior to watching your full video, which I absolutely will do. Just wanted to quickly give my unbiased opinion prior to hearing yours. I have a pair of 403s and 401s. I love them both, and wear them to work constantly (in the office). They are WAY more comfortable than wearing traditional dress shoes (to me and my feet). I love the versatility, the style, and the comfort. Are they worth $655? Honestly, probably not. I think they are probably $100 - $200 overpriced just based on what you're getting. Now, the final product is probably better than the sum of its parts, but it's still a very hefty price tag. I think the other question is, if I destroyed mine, or lost them, or whatever, would I buy another new pair? Even acknowledging that I think they are overpriced, I would probably buy them again. I just love them and the way that my feet feel at the end of the day. Ok, now back to your video!

[@jtaylor476]

I own the Filson Journeyman backpack. Is it a great backpack? Yes. Is it overpriced for what it is? Yes. Both things can be true. Indys are great but also overpriced for what you get.

[@Stridewise]

I respect this take

[@bheinatz1]

But can you log in them? 🤣 Great job, Nick. A very fair review of a beautiful, iconic boot! 👏👏👏

[@jmmiller7290]

I have owned Indy boots for yrs and love them. Alden customer service is amazing. I sent mine in for resole and they either damaged them during resole or whey were too damaged to resole and they sent me a new pair for the cost of the resole. Good company great boots.

[@joshuamurray-nevill9127]

I'd say Indy's are worth it if you live in the US, though the price point these days is a little high given the quality of other players. In the UK/EU there are so many good options from the English bootmakers around the £350-550 mark, that choosing Alden Indy's at that point is all because you love the style/image over everything else - which is a sound reason, but might explain why it's only really the Cordovan models that make it over the Atlantic.

[@rangerscoach]

price in footwear is definitely a problem. i went straight for the top of the heap with RM williams signature craftmans and they are just not worth the kicker that you pay for the red paint on the sole and the calfskin leather. ive since got churchs houston boots that are like the beatles chelsea and picked them up for 400 aud. the only boots ive had on my feet that felt like a grand aud were the viberg 310s.

[@Murmedon]

For my money, comfort > all else. The arch support in the Indy and for all of Alden’s lasts for people that have flat or collapsed arches is amazing.

[@johnortiz566]

It baffles me that some people can't admit that they're overpriced. I can afford Alden Indys but I would not buy them because to me the price should reflect the quality. I refuse to encourage companies to build products that don't reflect the asking price. They will continue to overprice their products until people force them to do so by not buying their products. It's common sense.

[@drregmonster4371]

Just got the 405s, and they are more comfortable than the White boots I have. I think the Aldens suit my lifestyle. When considering these reviewers, it's just their opinion. Think about it: Nick is a NYC urban dweller while Weston is located in Utah. Further, depending on your background, you may think that Salt Lake City is a big diverse city similar to NYC. Alden is like Rolex or Omega -- it's a luxury item where price isn't necessarily reflected of value.

[@Angel-AbC9]

I beg the differ with you . Of course nicks are not same comfy as indy , anyone knows that ,nicks are for people who really want a well built boot . Indy should be called a dress and casual shoe it's really not a boot , you say like it's the Rolex that's a joke , alden was the king of there boots many years ago because the competition was not there, flip into today's time competition is everywhere and made better today for less , alden didn't improve from many years ago and still charge as if there is no competition like years ago. I own the 405 , very comfy , it just feel like a dress shoe, parkhurst and grant stone feel like a casual boot with better built top to bottom.

[@davidpalmer9014]

Parkhurst isn't made in America? Is that a recent change?

[@Stridewise]

Yes! They had to shut down US production during/because of the pandemic, it was very sad

[@aradoran]

Yes they are now made in Spain. But the materials/build quality is still the same. Crappy part is they put commando soles on everything

[@patrickmiao1698]

I appreciate your well reasoned approach to the indy controversy. Frankly though, i don't have big problems with my feet and i wanted a more rugged sole construction in a more dressy boot. I went with the parkhurst Niagra (love the commando sole) 😅and am pleased with the boot. I felt I would be throwing an excessive amount of money towards an inferior boot with the indy. To me, only if someone had problematic feet that would really benefit from it's unique last would it be worth the price.

[@Stridewise]

Glad you're giving Parkhurst some love!

[@SilkStorm_101]

You are mainly paying for the name, and if you are a boot collector then you will always want one in your collection. Yes they don't use very good materials in their boots, and I regret getting the 405's in the calf leather and should have gone for the CXL leathers instead, but the last is good and while their QC is way down on 20 years ago (welt stiching is uneven and loose threads everywhere) they are still going to last you for a long time. The sole is equivalent to other none lug rubber soles. At their price I could not recommend getting more than one unless they are the boots that help you with your foot pain, and then if these are the answer then go for it.

[@Theheritagetribute]

Great review, Nick. I love all my boots for different reasons. There is no substitute for the Alden Indy, as there is no substitute for my Viberg, Truman, Trickers, or Thursday. I buy boots because I like them, not because I need them. Respect to all construction site workers, firefighters, and loggers out there, you are the real deal brothers, and I am 100% sure those guys are not struggling to decide between a pair of Indy 405 or a pair of Nicks’s Packer or Forester boots, they know what they need to get the job done. In my case, when I want to be comfortable for a work day facilitating a workshop, standing, walking around, and looking good 😊there are my Indy boots!

[@RichardGilbert2727]

Slam dunk, Stride! Your analysis illuminates why and how the charmed Alden Indy is more than the sum of its parts. Oh, I enjoy the mo' leather Alden haters, but they miss or overly minimize this. As well, they can't see the reality of the boot's mystique-which arises from the company's storied history, from the unusual boot itself, and from Harrison Ford's stubbornly insisting on it for Indiana Jones over the more obvious candidate, Red Wings. Indy haters tend to overlook the boot's obvious magic and their own ironic role in promoting it. The Indy boot is that rare inanimate object that possesses a gestalt: "a configuration, pattern, or organized field having specific properties that cannot be derived from the summation of its component parts; a unified whole."

[@Angel-AbC9]

I would love to see the sales of alden boots compared from mid 1990s and 2020s i bet the high times was the earlier years.

[@XiaNingTian]

For my aesthetic and work life, Alden Indys are worth it. IT doesn't require something like a White's or Nick's. Unfortunately my size is all too common and I have to buy new. Used and factory 2nds always sell out before I get to it.

[@darrenhall7454]

Loved the Rose Anvil video on the Indy. There’s no hiding when a high priced boot is cut in half. Like the Doc Martens, you can’t hide behind a name when a boot it opened up. I hope Weston didn’t get too much flack for it.

[@geckomabster1625]

just a trivial question, why no boot reviewer ever touched the FRYE brand?

[@Stridewise]

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[@brianwhitelaw7483]

I just ordered a pair of 401’s and they are calf not CXL

[@Stridewise]

I mentioned that to Alden Madison and they said "No it’s CXL. They have used both in the past"

[@brianwhitelaw7483]

@@Stridewise From Shoemart: Product Features Last:TruBalance Material:Calfskin Name:Iconic Alden Indy BootColor:Black-White StitchFeatures:Neoprene Cork SoleMPN:401

[@brianwhitelaw7483]

Todd Snyder also says it’s calf

[@Stridewise]

@@brianwhitelaw7483 I know but aldenmadison.com/collection/indy-boot-black-chromexcel-401/

[@assadnasralla8539]

I've owned the brown chromexel (J.Crew) indy and while I can say they were comfortable and cool, I felt a certain kind of way after watching Rose Anvil's video review and learning more about them. I felt like I got ripped off. I never cared about Indiana Jones wearing the boot or the brand really, I just like the way they look and I bought them over a decade ago when I hardly knew anything about boots. I get that people see value in things differently, but I just can't justify the price on these boots. I ended up selling them to buy more Red Wing boots 🤷‍♂️.

[@aravindvinayakan]

One day, one day. Great video as always :)

[@bonifaciomagdiwang1697]

its about time for Alden boot company to realize not to increase their price of the indy boot every year. after Rose anvil expose

[@minnesota-hk1vp]

Thank You for sharing

[@troyjenkins3886]

I got the Wested alternative Indy boot and a pair of Alden 403.The Alden is overpriced but for me they feel suprisingly way better than the Wested boots.

[@berserker4262]

I don't think Aldens are bad, they are great, but over priced. If they were $400-$500, I would probably have no issue with them. To me a $600+ boot is a premium product and I expect it to be made with premium materials. If leather board and foam makes the boot more comfortable, then great, but adjust the price accordingly.

[@JC_ORTIZ]

Since I can afford it I want them to me is more like you want a a cool boots with history and tradition!!

[@oyster_3694]

Thank you for this video!

[@JDSasso]

What is a product’s worth ? Its worth is determined by what a person will pay for the product in relation to the product’s utility and enjoyment. Is a $3 bottle of coke worth 20x more than a bottle of Poland Spring water ? Nutritionally no, but people buy and consume Coke all over the world on a daily basis in massive quantities. The value proposition becomes even more interesting when you ponder the worth of a Shell Cordovan Indy boot, with a $250 markup over the standard boot.

[@1979augistine]

I've wanted alden indy's but the Qc is horrendous and everyboot i have seen and handled looked like they cut corners and the price tag didnt match the quality . There is much better bang for the buck out there then throwing your money away on aldens unfortunately. Only way id buy a pair is used or if i found some 20 or 30 percent off id definitely not pay full retail.

[@billybob7088]

Not worth $655 at all.

[@aurthordunne]

I think people often forget last shape is a huge component to a boot or shoe.

[@Brajin1]

Not hating on this boot, but I would invest that money on Nicks/whites/vibergs. Or grab some redwings and dave a couple bucks.

[@jabbasan12]

Love my Indy boots. I have wide flat feet. Very comfortable .

[@lilchaparro9126]

Wolverines 1000 are just as good. Versatile, sleek, an comfortable. They’re made from Horween too without the crazy price.

[@drzaius844]

Which Alden boot have you owned?

[@american_psycho1147]

LMAO Wolvermemes

[@aradoran]

I like my 1000 miles but they have a fiberboard footbed. The Alden is definitely built better. Value is debatable since 1000 miles can frequently be found for $300ish

[@Kystifyable]

Definitely not lol. 1000 miles are good boots but they compare much closer in quality and finishing to Redwing as opposed to Alden/GS/Parkhurst.

[@lilchaparro9126]

@@Kystifyable I’m only saying that Wolverines are better due to the fact that they go sale for 200 dollars. Versus Alden who never does. For boots that go on sale at 200, yes, Wolverines are better.

[@michaelpellas9183]

It's funny to hear somebody use the phrase " getting a little inside baseball" with an Aussie accent.

[@Stridewise]

hahah 'inside cricket'

[@jamesdelgado2009]

I have nothing against the Alden boots, just not my style. However, if my Nick's or White's were cut open and their construction consisted of inferior materials, I'd be disappointed that I paid $600-$700. At this price point, I expect the best of everything. Maybe I am unrealistic but that's my opinion. I have no issue with the fact that Aldens are easy on the feet and wear great to those that have them it is just in my opinion, that high cost needs to be associated with high quality materials as well.

[@馬伕]

I bought them at a lower price. Many years ago. And they were overpriced then. Same way other luxury items are overpriced.

[@strengthandbulkMadness]

The chump-change mofos are forgetting about inflation; prices went up on everything. As for Weston, he nitpicks on boot materials and cuts the boots up but it’s mostly for entertainment purposes. A lot of the boots he dumped on like Alden, Wolverine and Chippewa will last 5-10 years easy. It doesn’t have to be all leather construction. A full grain leather upper and quality outsole is most important.

[@Angel-AbC9]

Parkhurst makes a similar style boot to the indy , same casual look , for the price difference and quality I would go with parkhurst , 400 plus instead of 600 plus . I own the 405 and like it but it should be advertise as dress to casual shoe and not a boot , that will kill all controversy..

[@Stridewise]

Yeah I'm glad I mentioned alternatives. Parkhurst just has so much trouble keeping product in stock, I hope they solve the issue

[@Angel-AbC9]

@Stridewise did you see there new fall winter lineup? Pretty cool

[@_bats_]

The Parkhurst Niagara looks really nice, as does my #1 Indy contender: the Caswell Stanton. Better materials at about half the price.

[@jonboy8181]

Short answer, absolutely not. These should be 400 bucks.

[@Retrakk]

Better replacement would be the Grant Stone Brass Boot imo. That said, Alden is grossly overpriced. But you are right, those buying Indy's are buying them regardless of the price. The provenance alone will carry the price tag.

[@Stridewise]

I probably should have mentioned their Ottawa as a good alternative, it's split toe but closer in terms of silhouette than the brass boot i think

[@Retrakk]

@@Stridewise Good call actually! The brass boot is bulkier for sure, and closer to a mock toe style than the Ottawa which is way sleeker. Totally agree. Cheers!

[@HeritageCast]

Im glad I watched @Aerosurflv watching through ok a few negateives, then the old "According to reddit" gets stated, and theres all this fiberboard. These people on redddit are clowns and bots. You cant tell me a sub $200 boot with cardboard is worth as much as even Drews Mexican work boot. Im glad everyone has made reviews to call out this nonsense. Not to the mention the FTC needs to get involved with these companies for false claims.

[@whathappendnext5887]

Allan Edmond Carters for the win

[@teksgeroi]

Many (maybe even most?) boots look better when used in my opinion, but these Indys take even one step further as I think they are almost ugly when new, but when worn they are pretty. Which is funny, as they are more dressier boots.

[@StolenAlias]

Im so tired of people defending Alden. Even if you’re a sucker and don’t care if you get fiberboard in the soles and heel and a split leather insole, they still have horrible qc. You literally cannot defend that. The evidence has been shown.

[@chinatownboy7482]

Is a Panda Express meal worth $15?

[@bryantretheway3809]

Worst pair of boots I’ve ever purchased. Got my Indy’s a year ago and I don’t wear them. Super uncomfortable.

[@josephlopez2228]

Hey stridewise!

[@Stridewise]

sorry man I was talking in the chat window instead of hitting refresh to wait for comments to appear here haha hi!

[@_JOMOMA]

The point isn’t that leatherboard is not functional (even though there are studies that show it’s not as functional as a solid piece of leather), but $650 for a boot that uses a cheap material like leather-board and with poor quality control? Idk man. Grant Stone makes a boot that’s just as dressy and has a very comfortable last in comparison to Alden. If the argument is that it’s subjective I get that as we all spend our money on what we see fit, but it can’t be ignored that OBJECTIVELY it’s not worth the money when you look at the facts and not the opinions.

[@M1_u]

After watching Rose Anvil's video about the indy, I know for certain they aren't worth it.

[@tobycruise3479]

I agree

[@Stridewise]

I address this!

[@drzaius844]

Hard disagree.

[@american_psycho1147]

Rose Anvil is a paid shill who makes sponsor of the week videos. His reviews are determined by who pays him. Alden didn't pay him, so they got a bad review. If they paid him, he'd have praised them for using leatherboard and called them a good boot. He has no credibility because he has no problem calling objectively bad boots good and calling good boots bad based on who is paying him. I hate that clown more than almost all the other "bootfluencers"

[@Joebonesy]

@alexandergannon7780better to be an Alden fan boy than a rose anvil fan boy like yourself 😂 that guys a clown