Are Landsail tyres any good?! Geoff tires to make a sensible video.

[@steveadams8799]

I bought an XJ8 x350 Jag last September. It came with new landsails all round. I planned to replace them asap. 5 thousand miles later driving in all conditions and they are staying. No problem at all with them.

[@ibrstellar1080]

Nice to see Geoff get a grip of the situation...

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Aaaaand comment pinned 😂😂😂

[@Crosshatch1212]

​@@GeoffBuysCarsfantastic idea

[@Crosshatch1212]

​@@GeoffBuysCarsride m bike will never go past Bridgestone bt, s brilliant tyres ,all weather ,

[@theoriginalwallace]

B'dum tsh 😂😂😂

[@Mattlawton-ft6ew]

​@@GeoffBuysCars do some track day's with your land sail then when You need new tyres do some moor track day's with continental etc 🤣👍see how you go

[@ianchalklen1047]

Given the performance of the Peugeot I would imagine they are more than capable.

[@WhiteDieselShed]

Even if the owners actually release the handbrake? Ever seen brake pads worn out in under 2000 miles and the calipers looked like they had been BBQ'd. We originally thought seized calipers but it was a low mileage fairly new car, customer also complained about poor fuel economy which tied in with seized caliper(s). It was only when we got him to pull the car into the bay and we spotted he didn't release the handbrake we realised it was him not the car although the pads, discs and calipers all needed replacing.

[@kmack5799]

😂

[@nickmoore2301]

I had 4 landsail tyres fitted to my car, nothing wrong with them even on the wet, muddy and potholed roads of Herefordshire. Gave a nice quiet and soft ride and seemed to have plenty of grip. Budget tyre yes but better than the cracked and hard 2 year old Dunlops they replaced 😊

[@asambrook76]

Dunlops shouldn't be suffering age-related fatigue at just two years old!

[@kevinmott6205]

Sam it's been stood not run doesn't do tyres any good 😊😢

[@asambrook76]

@@kevinmott6205 Even stood, Dunlops shouldn't be suffering age-related fatigue at just two years old! Sorry but I'd be taking them back as not fit for purpose...

[@vincentwright7276]

I have Uniroyal all season tyres fitted on my car, they are also quite cheap and long lasting and very good in the wet weather, which we seem to be having a lot of recently.

[@JamesField]

I had UniRoyal RainSport tyres on my XC90 when I got it. They were excellent. I replaced them with Michelin CrossClimate 2, which seemed to win all of the tyre reviews, and they're dreadful in comparison. Noisier, worse in the wet... I imagine they're better in ice & snow, but we don't seem to get much of that these days, so I'll be switching back to UniRoyal when these Michelins wear out.

[@stephenkelly4346]

Preferd tyre of choice on my van. Intergalactic mileage out of them. Top budget tyre!

[@stevemehew2888]

Any tyre is great for normal road driving in the dry. It's when it gets very cold or wet, or both together, that the cheap tyres let you down.

[@ln5747]

"Let you down" - statistically significant?

[@stevemehew2888]

@@ln5747 Compared to a top brands, yes, every tyre test shows the budget tyres to perform very poorly in the cold wet, which in the UK is about 70% of our weather. This is just the time you want a tyre to work well, to stop you, for example, hitting a child that's just walked into the road. Is that really worth saving £200 over 4 tyres which will last a few years ? Are you that tight ?

[@andypicken7848]

stevemehew2888 In the past Iv had many branded tyres now I only have non branded Chineese made tyres. Iv never been able to notice any difference in any conditions

[@ln5747]

@@stevemehew2888 I don't think you understand "statistically significant".

[@tardeliesmagic]

@@ln5747 🤣🤣🤣

[@simonshee5155]

A week after putting budget tyres all round on my Peugeot 405, the back end went on a wet bend, causing me to drive into an embankment, flipping the car, rear over front, coming down across the road on it's roof. By a miracle no-one was hurt! I had stopped the tyre fitter putting Vredersteins on, telling him I didn't want those, I wanted budgets! Cheap tyres are fine until you find yourself in an extreme situation when the grip's pushed to the limit. Of course you could drive for years and never have a situation, but for the saving of a few quid, I just don't believe it's worth it. (Currently using Bridgestone rated A wetgrip, on a £800 15yr old well maintained Peugeot)

[@petermastenbroek7719]

You are funny, blaming your bad driving skills on the tyres 😜

[@JamesField]

Vredestein is my go-to winter tyre brand (WinTrac Pro). My old (now my ex's) FWD Volvo V70 was able to get up a steep snowy/icy hill near me a few winters back when Land Rovers were getting stuck.

[@leed2883]

Blaming the tyres 😂 you skimped on tyres. What else did you buy budget's dor

[@GMteam.]

change their name to ditchfinder generals.

[@leed2883]

You tried them?

[@juliancleary2831]

I've used Landsail tyres several times and not had any problems either in wet or dry conditions .... no complaints and well priced.

[@givman2004]

ls588 - Got a flat at Oulton on a random track day. No vendors onsite. Went local tyre gaff and only 245/35/18 he had was an landsail ls588. Got 2 fitted on front of car. Lost no time over a Potenza S001.

[@TachyonDriver]

Real world experience right there! However, was it dry or raining at the time? It'd be interesting to have real world feedback on how much impact inclement weather may have had.

[@givman2004]

@@TachyonDriver Dry day. Just on 18 degrees. Civic TypeR with a lot of mods. 255 bhp / 1450kg 2.06.5 to 206.9 constantly over 24 laps. 14 on s0001 and 10 on ls588

[@TachyonDriver]

@@givman2004 can't argue with that! Cheers.

[@jamesmiller113]

It's an interesting toss-up, being terrible in the wet could have the upshot of being better in the dry (not that it's a given) - might struggle in an emergency, which is the problem

[@raydavison2972]

Devils advocate - Maybe it's more down to the fact that you weren't able to get the best out of either set of tyres and both were able to match your ability?

[@zzkamikazezz]

Landsails all round on the saab before winter last year. I cant fault them. I drive the car gently and they havent given me a single concern and no lack of grip over winter. My sports car has cup2 and semi slicks for track and I have had many other performance tyres over the years, so I know a good tyre. Big up the landsails!

[@TheChrisofe]

I bought a 2006 S Type Jag sport in 2019 as a knock about. It came with brand new Landsails. I drove the car for about 18 months covering around 6000 miles absolutely no problems at all. If I ever buy another Jag I would definitely fit Landsail again. I don't agree with the nay sayers I found them absolutely solid in wet conditions.

[@matthewwiddows6319]

sometimes its worth checking prices for premium tyres, in common sizes like 225/45/17 the price difference between budget and the best you can buy can be quite small.

[@FactTV-rj6sh]

Tyres are always a compromise.. 1. Hard Rubber long lasting BUT crap in the wet. 2. Softer Rubber Gives Great Road grip and better in wet. So very often despite the advertisers a budget cheap one is safer and better just does not last so long.. Oh and to add,, Many all come from same factory just softer compounds and i was a Tyre Technician 30 years so know my stuff..

[@GlennRepairsThings]

Hi Geoff. I had landsails on a 2001 Passat last year. They were in good nick and I didn’t plan on keeping the car long so I stuck with them. One evening on my way home I went round a corner to discover a deer on one side of the road and her young on the other side. I immediately braked hard and the abs kicked in, the baby deer ran into the hedge and I was relieved that there was a gap for me. Unfortunately the mother ran across to join her baby at the last moment and I hit her at between 5 and 10pm. She bounced off the front of my car (causing minimal damage) and lay at the side of the road winded. I got out and the poor thing was gasping for air. Luckily she jumped up after about 30 seconds and ran off. On my current Mercedes 190d I have new Michelins and it definitely stops noticeably quicker. I could have saved the pain for that poor deer if I had better tyres and it’s a really good job it wasn’t a child In the road. Could have been a tragedy. It’s stuck with me and now I won’t have budget tyres.

[@spykegti1718]

A bit of actual user advice here instead of just pointless tyre snobbery. I’ve been using 388 and 588 Landsail tyres since 2016 across 5 different cars at over 30k miles a year. The 388’s are a midrange budget tyre that last well and have good grip in wet and dry. The 588’s are a very impressive tyre in all conditions, they have more wet and dry grip than the continentals they replaced. I do a lot of miles for work in various of our company vehicles which all now have Landsails on, no issues at all. Also, my main hobby is trackdays, usually 10 a year so it’s not as if I don’t know what grip is and no I don’t work for Landsail.

[@BleachDemon99]

Don’t skimp on the only contact you have with the road …..

[@happysnapperman]

Got Land sails on both my 2007 & 2009 Hyundai Coupe daily drivers. Even took car's to Holland and France with no issues. Drive sensible within your capabilities and I can't see any problems! Rob from Birmingham

[@stephenpenfold9301]

I have them (already) fitted to my 4x4 Xtrail when purchased, they seem ok, did a 2k round trip to ski resort in France back in Jan, was quiet enough on the road, good grip in dry, ok grip in the wet and handled the snow ok as well

[@andyburnett8012]

Never had a problem with Landsail tyres, had full sets on several cars in the past, ranging from small runabout cars to 4x4 and large saloon and coupe cars, grip well in all conditions, just put a full set on a Rav4 and towed a large caravan 300 miles, would definitely buy Landsail again 👍

[@golders99]

It's worth trying Mazzini Eco607 tyres. I have them on my Volvo and they are excellent. I do have Michelin PS4 on my MX5 though.

[@motorsportsfan]

As a MOT tester i see more branded tyres (Michelin/Pirelli/Continental mainly) perishing/cracking way earlier than Landsail tyres do 🤷‍♂ 😏👍

[@petermastenbroek7719]

Hi Jeff, I've been driving around for 3 years in all sorts of weather on my LANDSAIL 195/55 ZR16 91W XL | LS388 that are fitted on my DACIA LODGY 1.5Dci, to replace the Michelin tyres that I had before, and I cannot feel or hear a difference, so I am very pleased with them, and even more given the price.

[@scoutfinch47]

I have put Uniroyal's on my cars since 2001. I wouldn't put any other tyre on my cars. they are the best for their price for wet weather, pretty fantastic in winter conditions too.

[@equaliser2265]

If you drive to the road conditions and know how to drive sensibly in the rain they are perfectly fine, if you drive outside your skill set no tire on the planet will keep you on the road.

[@andypicken7848]

equaliser2265 Absolutely, a car could be driven on its rims at 30mph without leaving the road

[@svr5423]

until you can't get up the mountain in snow because you don't have enough grip :)

[@leed2883]

​@@svr5423snow traction isn't based on tread alone. Worn winter tyres will always beat brand new summer tyres

[@svr5423]

@@leed2883 new quality winter and summer tyres will be preferrable though. Even in the summer, you have to deal with things like mud, aquaplaning at high speeds or driving over wet grass. And if you go slower than traffic, you force people to overtake you and increase the risk. Especially since cars are heavier now.

[@gb5uq]

I worked for over 40 years in the tyre/ fast fit industry. Today most tyres are made in the same factories from the same raw materials, they simply have different brand names embossed on them. Where we are seeing problems arise is not due to any particular brand being inferior to another but from EU environmental legislation which as banned the use of certain materials in their manufacture reducing the efficiency and durability of the rubber compounds.

[@brendanc5519]

Well tyre reviews would disagree based on his tests and brake tests. Cheap tyres are cheap for a reason.

[@andybowie8590]

Have you seen a tyre comparison between budget and premium? If they're all the same how do they perform so differently? Watch an unbiased tyre review between budget and premium, particularly wet weather handling and braking, the results prove huge differences that can mean the difference between stopping or hitting something. I know from my own experience that pemium tyres grip better than cheap ones. Yes, Some premium tyre companies own budget brands but that doesn't mean the tyres are the same. Vw owns lamborghini but that doesn't mean a polo and an aventador are the same car.

[@andrewmcpoland9040]

I've had 3 sets of Landsail tyres. No issues whatsoever on my 55 mile round trip commute.

[@jamesmiller113]

They should last longer than that

[@rbnhd1144]

@@jamesmiller113 lol

[@steveturnbull9542]

@@jamesmiller113 I was going to say that hahaha

[@g.d2450]

back in 2016 i bought a focus st that was just over a year old from a ford dealer and had a set of landsails on the front, took the car back to them several times to see why it felt squirrelly in the rain and if i went round any corners faster than 30 mph the traction control kept kicking in, long story short after another 6000 miles i replaced the fronts with Goodyear efficient grip performance tyres that where only £20 more expensive than the ditch finders but completely transformed the car and got atound 18000 miles out of them.... in my opinion cheap Chinese tyres are a false economy when there's little difference in price between them and premium tyres.... but maybe a different story when going up in size and price range but each to their own

[@1x3dil]

Drive sensibly , and any make of tyre will be fine . Drive at high speed at the limit of what a car is meant to cope with . Then you will quickly discover that only luck will carry you through . Pushing your luck is up to the individual , but sadly it doesn’t always stop with the individual .

[@JohnnyMQB]

I see this quite a lot on the local back roads people driving at 40 when it's just a bit wet my Michelins feel so planted usually town cars

[@davidhaygarth648]

Some arent even fit for any speed in the wet. Alpha Accelera's for example should be banned.

[@JohnnyMQB]

@@davidhaygarth648 most economy are ok in the dry it's when it's wet you notice the price difference can't tell people they'll need to learn the hard way

[@woodcote90]

I've been using landsails for years. Never had any issues. 208 gti still grips well enough, even in wet. I first fit some to an octavia vrs to replace p zeros and surprisingly the landsails were much better.

[@jamie-hb8gy]

People in the know call them"Landslides"😂😂😂

[@strandvaskeren]

I used to work for a company that put the cheapest non brand tires on the company cars, I've had my fill of aqua planing and sliding all over the place on those, so for my own cars I go with name brands and the best wet rating I can get.

[@DeanoBanksy]

My Seat came with Landsails on and they just had no grip. Didn't take me long to replace them with Falkens.

[@somnambulist1965]

Two fitted to the rear end of my Fiat 500. Immediately noticed a noise reduction. Been on town, city roads, motorways in rain or shine. No complaints after 3 months solid driving. Previously had Kumho

[@robinbirch5742]

I have had several sets of Landsails on my Audi 2.7 TDi Auto - never had a problem

[@BurchellAtTheWharf]

3:20 Here in my east coast province, we got a Michelin tire manufacturer, and they use to make all the 13-16R wheels, but now only make the 16-20r

[@BurchellAtTheWharf]

R =rim size in inches

[@IfInDoubt..]

Shit tyres, my base line is Nexen, Falken, Toyo, Kumho etc - if a car I buy is fitted with any of those, they don't get changed. Anything cheap? They get changed.

[@BleachDemon99]

This 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@laszlokocsis5862]

Just like me...👍

[@colliehouse3133]

Tyre snob

[@johnmoruzzi7236]

I agree, Korean are proper tyres.

[@foxstrangler]

My one time g/f had a brand new set of Kumhos on her Fiesta. Emergency brake for an idiot driver on a wet road, and BANG. Never fit them again. Tyre fitter did a test on a wet concrete floor with a Kumho and a Michelin. The Kumho slid, the Michelin didn't. I got to try it myself, same result.

[@stevenbrown2523]

Got 2 new Landsails on the front of my Megane 1.5dci. Seem fine so far, relatively quiet and seem to grip well even in the wet. I look at it that if I puncture and can't be repaired I've only lost £50 instead of £80.

[@theyorkmethod]

Currently got Landsails on a 300hp Saab. Perfectly good midrange tyre in all conditions, not had any issues and the car gets driven hard. Obviously they have a limit but it is progressive and you know when it's going too far. They're perfectly OK.

[@MadIIMike]

My dad has a small car shop and also makes tyre changes. Landsail, Ling Long, Imperial, King Miler, Double Coin and a few others are blacklisted and won't be fitted. They are fine until they aren't and usually that would be your rear going away on a wet road and even if it grips again you'll have so much lock that you either shoot off or have so much weight transfer that it's very unlikely to keep it on the road. We usually use Hankook as a baseline reference as far as price performance go unless there have been surprisingly good models from other reasonably priced brands or Hankook made a bad tyre (which are usually the fuel saver, ev and what not things). Also, if you look up tyre reviews, ignore the overall ratings and focus on wet (and snow for winters) handling/braking. It doesn't matter how much noise it makes or if it saves a marginal amount of fuel if it doesn't perform where it counts.

[@NH00531]

We have a local run about car (does about 4K/yr) with Landsails on, never had any issues. However my work cars doing 15K plus/year, Michelin or Pirellis. Horses for courses.

[@theroadsnearyou...5088]

I had a pair of Landsail tyres on a small car fitted for 3 years, they were ok, but by the end of the 3 years they were shot & punctured easily, even though there was 3-4mm left on the tread! (Note: they started cracking on the tread around 12 months old!) I now have four Avons on that small car and the ride quality is great! Also, they have not started cracking around the tread either after 12 months!

[@Elsie-uy2kl]

It depends on your budget and the car . Personally I prefer good quality tyres as they could save my life in the event of an emergency. 👍

[@andypicken7848]

Elsie You are blagging right ?

[@strandvaskeren]

@youtube2kwatcher No, no, no, you always want the best grip on the rears, no matter if it's fwd or rwd. If the rear loses grip before the front, the car spins around, fun when you're playing around with the handbrake, not quite so fun if it just happens on a rainy day, so the tires with the most grip goes on the rear wheels.

[@gimble447]

@@strandvaskeren exactly, this is why I never understand people who go to the tyre place and want the new tyres on the front wheels but then want them put on the back and the back wheels put on the front to swap them round.

[@E36_Billy]

I've had landsails on a peugoet 206 and a sport ka that I would b road bash very often and they were very grippy in dry and hot weather however they do fall off a bit in the rain, but for driving spiritedly on a daily basis I'd be changing a set of fronts every 6 months so I'm happy with them

[@MrSkeptik-z5r]

I have a set of LS388 and found them to be fine, grip and stability no issues.

[@jamesmiller113]

They do bite quite nicely on dry corners, and the lightweight construction does make them comfortable - but that wet-weather performance is definitely a concern

[@paultaylor9652]

My wife had Goodyear's on her 71 plate Ibiza, covered 7500 miles and they were all cracked, so much for branded tyres.

[@svr5423]

I usually buy Michelin, Conti or Goodyear. Currently both winter and sommer set are Michelin. Car has to work under every weather condition, also going over mountain passes to doing 200kph on the autobahn. Or a bit offroading in case I visit an event.

[@zaphodbeeblebrox6627]

Well, I've never heard of or seen Landsail tyres, but having just looked them up on Ebay, they ( LS 388) appear to be a really good budget tyre which has a noise rating of B and a rain grip rating also of B which to be fair seems more than satisfactory. I recently bought Four AVON tyres for my trusty old Saxo and the only thing I was really interested in was how they performed in the wet. If tyre's perform well in the wet they must be okey in the dry. So far that theory seems to be holding up.

[@stevetodd7030]

I prefer Continental tyres on my car. I watched a top gear or 5th gear programme about tyres and the premium brands fared better than the cheap ones in their tests. My motto is is that my family is in the car and so my brakes and tyres are always kept in good condition.

[@theoriginalwallace]

I had Rotalla RU01s fitted to the BMW X5 19" alloys on my E91 Touring... damn, they were great in all conditions coupled with the BC Racing coilovers. Wet, dry & snow... usually rather spirited driving too 😂 Cheers. Leigh.

[@janingram1076]

I drive my misses mad when choosing tyres looking at all the ratings, especially the wet weather rating, being a biker for 50 years makes you realise in an emergency you need exellent tyres.

[@thecheez3418]

There's a market for all types of tyre, including cheap makes. My old mum only does local driving, to the shop and back, 1 mile each way. Cheap and cheerful is perfectly adequate.

[@AlienLivesMatter]

I do love the xm2+ Michelins on my 88benz. Great in the wet. Comfort and quiet.

[@jo_clarke1960]

Never used them but, I go with what my mechanic recommends and they are generally lower end middle of road tyres, which i have had no problems with in the 20yr+ he's been doing my cars. So you don't need top end expensive tyres on a family vehicle, just a good set and price doesn't always determine that.

[@CTX75]

Thought I'd give some feedback after having used landsails for a few years on my car. It's not a big expensive car, just an astra mk4 coupe convertible 1.8. I had to get some new tyres a few years back abs money was tight, so I opted for landsails. After about a year and a half of driving including 4 commutes a week around 100 miles each, the fronts needed replacing. I swapped the rats to the front and got a matching set again for the rear. Overall on a low power front wheel drive car they performed brilliantly. Yes, on my other car (944 Turbo) I may have second thoughts going down the budget route, but on this car they hold on surprisingly well. They ga Ive a good balanced feel, they don't seem to let go, they squeal on/near the edge and feel relatively progressive. I'm not sure if they are particularly good, or if the fact that the car has 4 matched tyres is the reason it handles fairly well (the car is on a refreshed chassis, oem rubbers, joints, shocks and springs - not uprated). I've had friends also into spirited diving that have remarked how well they hold on and turn in and one had even tried them and now has the same regard for them that I do. Of your on a budget, these are great. If you want to take 400hp+ round the ring, then yeah, spend a little more . They do wear a lithe quicker than other cheap tyres, but given the grip and breaking I've experienced from them, they are a good or possibly better than (more expensive) cheap alternatives from branded manufacturers. I'll buy them again and would recommend to friends and family on a budget

[@CTX75]

Forgot to mention that progressive driving on the wet can still allow for impressively brisk travel. Wet breaking, wet corners can all be taken to the point before traction control and esp kick in, it doesn't just flop into relying on the gadgets to make up for poor grip.

[@BauregardSenior87]

After spending 5 grand fixing my mini after crashing it during the winter, I capped off the repair with a set of premium falkens and it feels like a sports car. Definitely not budget friendly but neither is fixing a 2015 Mini Cooper S, I am just sentimental like that, a thorough bread broke as hek car guy.

[@Andy77337]

Really need to test them in the wet as the compound is possibly not cut out for wet roads, at the moment I’m running 3 Michelin pilot sport 4 and 1 Kormoran all season tyre that are made in Bulgaria under license for Michelin very good value for the money and reasonable grip in the wet and surprisingly good in the snow

[@garethbattersby]

I work in the car industry and we had a guy arguing the cost of his MOT on his BMW 1 series. He needed two new rear tyres, he was given the choice of two tyres what the car came with or budget. He chose budget. 1 week later he came back in kicking off that the tyres need changing as he span out going around a roundabout. Those were Landsail tyres. Im currently needing all 4 tyres replaced on my 20 year old Celica. And Im getting Bridgestone Turanzas which probably will double the value of the vehicle when fitted... but I drive down country lanes in all weather and i cant take the risk of ending up in a farmers field.

[@LeslieWalters-n9t]

I know nothing about the Land Sail tyres, but I have had a few slippery moments with budget tyres. I came across the Bridgestone Turanza tyres about seven years ago, and I have not had any loss of traction since.

[@hakology]

just fitted some toyo proxies ... very impressed :)

[@mrmick4757]

Landsail on my 2013 1.6d Mondeo for last 6 year's! No prob's even in the wet!

[@micke3035]

Now living in milder winter weather and some years ago I needed winter tyres but I didn't drive long distances so there was no need for a "serious" studded tire so I bought a set of Landsail friction tyres, 225/45 17, how bad could they be? And I must admit I was surprised how good they were on snow, slush, light ice. Worked fine for me, but I grew up on snow and has spent quite a few liters of petrol skidding around in my youth, practice makes perfect(on abandoned parking lots, deserted roads etc.). So there's a bit of experience to help too. But for longer commutes I would've gone for a brand tyre in that case.

[@paulmoor595]

I have used Uniroyal rainsport for years now. I've used them on E60 3 litre BMW, CL55 AMG...W216 Mercedes etc...they are without doubt the best tyre for UK climate in terms of wear and wet grip is great. I drive thousands of miles a year and as an ex Police Interceptor I know how to drive to limits and drive cars hard sometimes. Ive even used them on track. By far the best combination of cost vs performance..

[@adriches406]

A mate is a tyre tester for a well known brand. At 70mph in wet, the braking distance can be 10 meters longer on budgets. It's a measurable fact. Then there's the tyre reviews guy on youtube, they come last in every tyre test. 'My mate bob says they are great' is not a measurable fact. The tyre structure itself is even weaker. So more chance of a blowout if hitting a pothole. You're right, on a cheap car without much power, I wouldn't want to spend big with premiums, mid range would be fine. But never go budgets. Also, Peugeot definitely don't fit landsails from new! But a cheap ass main dealer might have put some on.

[@ln5747]

Why go mid range instead of going premium? Your logic is flawed. If you are hyper focused on risk instead of statistical significance you'd only go premium.

[@TheMentalblockrock]

Simple solution is just to drive 10m further behind the car in front in the wet.

[@stivowen5710]

@@ln5747 not really

[@adriches406]

​@TheMentalblockrock wow brilliant, by that 'logic' I can stop wearing a seatbelt now too.

[@Nite-owl]

@@adriches406 That's not an even remotely similar comparison. Preventing a possible rear end shunt by keeping 10m further back from the car in front is going to actually prevent the shunt. Not wearing a seatbelt is going to be utterly useless in the event you slide on ice and slide into a tree, even if you had £200 per corner tyres on. On top of that, you won't attract 3 points on your licence by keeping an extra 10m between you and the car in front

[@youbencowell]

The people who say they are the same, made by the same companies in the same factories forget that limp, small, dry and hardly fruited Tesco value scones are made with the same ingredients as big fat juicy nicely baked Waitrose lovely scones. So I took Nexen off a 2 month old car to fit Michelin and never looked back. I don't think Michelin use more butter and sultanas in their tyres.

[@stefansworld3351]

I work in the motor trade and I've always seen that Landsail always prematurely crack and dry out between the treads within a year or so. The tread lasts, but we don't fit them any more because of this. RoadX are a good budget tyre that I've used for myself on my Saab and Vectra in the past when I couldn't stretch to Goodyears. The used to be branded as Jinyu and Evergreen.

[@davidorr6627]

I just replaced my Kumho tyres with a set of Far Road tyres which were NZ$200 cheaper each. The Kumho's were fantastic and lasted for 94,500 km. I don't expect the new tyres to last anywhere near as long, but I was pleasantly surprised how quiet they are, and they performed very well on a long trip which had a day of very wet weather and lots of windy, hilly roads. We also went up a steep, narrow, slightly wet gravel road and they had no problems.

[@paulmuff9883]

Don’t know anything about the tyres but definitely great to see you back on air 👍👍😀

[@SteveN-pw4dj]

My dad had these on his Mercedes and they had started to crack after 2 years... I convinced him to buy Michelin pilot sport 4's and they are still perfect after 2 years. And the grip on the Michelin's is excellent in dry and wet, but it is a softer compound than cheaper tyres.

[@deanwelsh5702]

I bought a set of ling long tyres 4 my Audi a4 Quattro many years ago. I did 40 thousand miles on them and they still had 4 mil of tread left. the sidewalls started leaking and cracking before the tread wore out . They were acceptable in the dry but were awful in the wet but as it was 4 wheel drive I didn’t really care . Now I have an a6 I tend to buy accelara tyres don’t know how they rate in tests but I’ve had 3 sets and they hold the road well and last over 30 k and are reasonably priced so I’m sticking with them.

[@mick_6006]

bought a pair once, not again. OK when new but wear fast and grip levels fall fast. Front ends are a lot more expensive than decent tyres. Avons are a good compromise for new or high end brand part worns with 6+mm left on them which should be about the same cost as the ditchfinders.

[@ivormacadam]

I am old enough to remember Michelin X's. Was like driving on ice on a warm sunny day. Would skid anywhere. And the damn things lasted for years!

[@kevinmott6205]

Never go budget. Best tyres you can afford Geoff. ❤Cheers for the discussion i get my tyres from black spot they are Good Year. 👍

[@KronoReaper]

Had them on the front wheels of a 1.4 Honda civic, car would under steer on wet roars in tight turns, swapped them with Goodyears and had no issues. The tires on the back stayed for another 2 years without issue. So my suggestion would be to only put them on rear wheels

[@BionicRusty]

Mat from High Peak Autos always sighs when he sees a set of Landsails. 😁

[@andreasphotiou1886]

Matt has taught us that you can tell a lot about a used car from the tyre brands

[@gimble447]

@@andreasphotiou1886yeah, but I don’t necessarily hold with his logic, many “normal motorists” are “oversold” at fast fit tyre places yet also never check/run with no, oil etc 😂

[@timstubbs6701]

I have a range rover, it's had a lot of mechanical work and receipts to prove including timing chain. The dealer clearly fitted some dilinte tyres. I have had landsail tyres on an x5 and about to fit some to a tdv8 4.4 range rover. I have spent a lot of money on the car, but I commute long distance on straight roads. But on my saab ttid I have pirelli p-zero 4's and on my bike pirelli corsa's. So I choose my tyres according to my use of the vehicles.

[@gimble447]

@@timstubbs6701 couldn’t agree more, I have some very well cared for, cherished and maintained regardless of cost vehicles, but however, because some are seldom used, not driven in a “spirited” manner and never in the wet (unless it rains while I’m out) I never go beyond cheap (ish) tyres on these because they are regularly changed due to age not wear, I’d rather have budget tyres that are under 5 years old than premium tyres twice that age or more 👍

[@timstubbs6701]

@gimble447 unfortunately it's about getting yo understand car history and a car owner before purchase. If you buy from s dealer you never get to see these things.

[@chrisbarron5861]

I had a reason to drive my daughters car, which had 2 Landsails at the front, in the wet, on a roundabout I take at 30mph in my Skoda Superb on Michelin Cross Climate 2's (not an advert), and I slid to the outside of the roundabout. I couldn't let her go on with those and swapped them for Cross Climate 2's, from Kwik Fit, at a fair price and importantly, with KF's tyre insurance, which gives you three puncture repairs for free, or a new tyre if they can't plug the puncture. I've claimed for a replacement once after 1 of mine was deliberately slashed in the sidewall. £15 to insure a £150 tyre. It's the way to go for me.

[@tincambo]

I've used Goodride tyres a few times they're pretty decent for a budget tyre.

[@forrestrobin2712]

I’ve been using Nexxens for a while. I only use premium tyres on the 9-5 Aero - Michelin all Season. They were actually a lot less expensive than I’d imagined.

[@StephenMercer1969]

Hi Geoff, well it's like this they are ok for none performance cars driven very sensibly. However not for rear wheel drive in the wet they will let go on uneven surface the sidewalls will not hold due to the compound of the tyre it's fact in the tests. Lastly in the wet they are widow makers for any BMW driver. don't buy them Love the channel.

[@jamie0193]

You’ll only find out they’re ditch finders when you run out of time and space when you brake hard on a cold wet winter morning.

[@Dave001968]

got a couple on the front of my smart car. Noticed a little more noise than the old ones - but probably having some tread on them is likely the reason. They were cheap.

[@paulriggers1558]

"i'm going middle of the road", naw, they are cheap shit, who are you kidding... we fit them at work, overall, they drive ok, but don't last long, i would fit them on the back only... i fit second-hand michelins to my front end, best tyre to stop aquaplaning at high speed *, just keep your foot in, always stays dead straight... alas, absolute shite in the snow... [*mechanic, so yes, high speed...]

[@philbateson7966]

Don't know about Landsail, but I had 4x Sailun put on my XF three months ago as 3 out of 4 didn't match. What a mistake 😱😱😱 Wheel vibration at most speeds, especially high. Bouncy, wallowy ride and unsteady. ( no issues before this) Had them re-balanced, checked alloys for damage like buckling /warping. Had entire car checked over 3x,including Jaguar specialist - everything fine. Discs and pads were new. Specialist suspects budget tyres as he's encountered this before. Having a donor set swapped on this week, hopefully this should point towards tyres. If so, swapping for Michelin Pilots😬

[@Golo1949]

I had them on my Lexus GS300 no problem.

[@mowermanone1621]

In reference to the tires, I assume Landsail tires are an affordable private label and I say yes, save the money. If they turn out to be unacceptable they’re still better than what you had and know you know. Good video, I feel better!

[@sib923]

Landsail sounds and looks all good to me! Thanks Geoff

[@Noseypoke-mr7th]

I put a set(5) on my Chevy 1500K truck never had a problem with em, £200 with free Balance. No extra noise good buy.

[@zzkamikazezz]

Landsails all round on the saab before winter last year. I cant fault them. I drive the car gently for the most part and they havent given me a single concern and no lack of grip over winter. They havent understeered or over steered when on the odd occasion I am pushing on. They havent ever struggled for grip when pulling away at haste with the turbo coming in on the diesel saab. My sports car has cup2 for road and semi slicks for track and I have had many other performance tyres over the years, so I have experience of expensive tyres. Big up the landsails!

[@VXGaming]

I've had a few landsail and Linglong tyres, budgets for a reason. I've found they eventually bubble on the side walls, they arnt strong enough to handle the road quality around my area which is rubbish so it varies on experience. Currently testing Arrowspeeds.

[@telbenj]

Got a set on my car changed from the worn Michelins The Landsails are lasting well I’ve had no issues at all wet dry and winter all good

[@andrewnevermind4902]

I fit 4 of these tyres and then my car's engine went bang. Bloody tyres.

[@stevekenilworth]

i pick mid range, less eco more noise but more important better rain rating. ive found limits on mine but you really have to drive like a madman. i changed from cheap winter tyres what came with car they good for 4000miles then still 2/3 tread i hydroplaned following a line cars at around 45-50 mph when i got home they went and did test with no abs it was -8c roads looked like glass , getting going and emergency stop outside my house from 30mph the summer ones ive mentioned were better even stopping from 70 down hill on slip road and a bumpy country road stop from 60. winter were great and flick of a switch they were bad but very limit conditions very wet road a bmw boy racer i lost in my 83bhp city car he lost back end trying to keep up they were great very wet or pretty cold, a dam morning they were like driving on oil and no abs or esp my car was twitchy and hot temps wow moving of on to fast roundabout they loved slip made hell of a noise and was not even pushing much, so very fine set conditions they great and only first bit tread, no idea brand i got on but i always ask mid range cost very high water rating ive never had issue with them and been off road in my city car not an issue they pretty good

[@dwarfyh32]

Kumho have always been my go-to mid range tyre for an average car

[@andyxox4168]

Landsail … ‘they’re better than nothing’. (I run Michelin Pilot Sport on the Evo 8 which seems to appreciate the stiffer walls than the Toyo T1R I run on the quattro, but the quattro is far lighter)

[@jameswarland9710]

They are ok for someone who doesn’t do a lot of miles. Decent in the dry terrible in the wet. Also half way through there life they don’t do as well as some other mid range tyres I’ve had.

[@tomcole020]

I've bought an Astra VXR Nbr which has some landsail "UHP" tires on it and they seem to be decent. While it's only standard they seem to handle the power well tbh. Not driven it in the wet yet though 😬

[@neil1997]

Quite a few years ago i worked in a lab for a large oil company. We were reverse engineering tyre compounds to target sales of butyls. Tyres are quite complicated chemical compounds - and thats before you get into proprietary tread designs etc. "Budget" tyres back then at least, were bulked out with clays. They often test well when new, but have a short effective life - ie their performance would change (degrade) as they wear and while still having useful tread, things like temperature stability could make them unpredictable in operation. To people commenting on tyres and other parts being made in china, that is something completely different - id be 100% confident tyres made by Michelin in China are the same as those made in France.

[@grantdraper4807]

They are some brake tests, over 10 mtr diff in stopping

[@0000stuart]

I bought a jaguar xjr with landsail tyres on it . The car is 400 bhp , I'd never normally buy cheap tyres . The car never lost grip going way too fast in heavy rain , on a damp road the car didn't slip swerving to avoid a stopped car on a motorway . I ended up buying 2 new landsails for the back as I knew they were quite good + I was pretty skint .

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Exactly!!

[@0000stuart]

@@GeoffBuysCars if you buy a fast car & want to push it I'd say the nangkang ns2r is about as good as you can get , I'd of put them on the Jag if they made the right size , I've got them on a old 4L BMW & there great 🙂