Are Lithium Batteries Dead?!

Scientists have just developed a water based battery that is much more powerful than the traditional lithium based ones.
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[@lOQl]

Sure they did.... Who are these 'scientists' by the way?

[@jorvool12527]

Xie, C., Wang, C., Xu, Y., Li, T., Fu, Q., & Li, X. (2024). Reversible multielectron transfer I−/IO3− cathode enabled by a hetero-halogen electrolyte for high-energy-density aqueous batteries. Nature Energy, 1-11. Nature Energy too, so not too shabby

[@sporehux8344]

it's the MATRIX, the water based batteries are us

[@PenNameBic1776]

@@sporehux8344 True. Copper Top

[@HelloThere-ys4sz]

What are you the government

[@sporehux8344]

@@HelloThere-ys4sz could be "big oil" or lizard people, or "big lizard oil people"

[@Kris-fd9xs]

Bromine is great stuff, very safe

[@WTF_BBQ]

Drink it.

[@frequencywatchers]

Jup, I Drank It Every Day !

[@Kris-fd9xs]

@@frequencywatchers why did you stop?

[@szymonbiniecki887]

I drank it too but my sh!t started to turn brown

[@frequencywatchers]

@@Kris-fd9xs i atoped because it was to good for me. Doctor said it

[@John-hv7ct]

Iodine and bromine sounds like batteries will still be a pain in the ass to waste manage

[@typicalwatcher1557]

I theory it should be easier than lithium

[@joepublic6765]

I think the short is forgetting the zinc part of the water battery

[@thomasjosefsson4285]

The batteries in your car is made of water. It’s actually one of the first battery types that was created. This technology is not new. don’t listen to stupid people.

[@ImDembe]

Well "regular" batterys in cars are filled with water but also lead, i guess this is metal free or something more healty than lead.

[@schizo113]

Don't listen to this video because it was Is chinese scientists claimed this, China fakes everything

[@synesthesia2699]

​@@ImDembeit has a zinc anode and a iodine/bromine cathode instead of lead and sulfuric acid like a car battery. They're more complicated, expensive to manufacture, and harder to implement on a large scale than other batteries like lithium (for now)

[@ImDembe]

@@KT-pv3kl Correct and wrong, 70% of a car battery is water, when you maintain it you refill it with water and if it's to low it will die. So yes water preferably destilled water is a key component in a lead acid battery.

[@outkast937]

Uhmmmmmmmm yeah no theres no water in your car battery my dude... Those are lead acid batteries, which, btw, arent great at their job, theyre just cheap to produce, oh, and they occasionally explode since they release hydrogen gas while discharging.. also, they suck at dealing with cold...

[@TechPage27]

Everybody gangsta until the water evaporates in the middle of death valley

[@librafarris669]

Yeah, the oil company won’t allow that

[@typicalwatcher1557]

Lithium not oil

[@makodolphus7810]

@@typicalwatcher1557 Lithium miners aren't the ones doing everything they can to keep green energy "unfeasible".

[@ShadowGhost-fz8um]

You are dumb . He is saying bromine water and iodine battery . Soon oil companies will run out of fossil fuel

[@yaminightcore9325]

Imagine u go to shop for filling ur battery with water coz ur battery vaporizes

[@ImDembe]

You don't have to imagine, lead acid battery mantinance is to refill with water, that kind of tech have been around for ages.

[@yaminightcore9325]

@@ImDembe bro i know that

[@SolgerLemp]

you look like a bottom

[@juniorclouston6028]

The battery on your car has water in it all ready lmao you got no scent

[@juniorclouston6028]

Car Battery's have water in them already always have

[@SenseiTimMinke]

It's probably also enormous

[@user-sd3zd9oo7p]

Actually smaller

[@frequencywatchers]

Why? Sounds Like They Are Actually SMAALL, If They Creatte 1200 W Per Liter, Damn, Thats CRAZY GOOD !

[@krekelyt]

​@@user-sd3zd9oo7p Like my di-

[@SC-rk6zt]

1200 watt *hours* per litre is a great. He means the finished battery not how much power you get per litre of water. How much water they take doesn’t matter but their capacity does.

[@SenseiTimMinke]

The context of the question is that voltage times amperage is wattage and we only have part of that equation. How many amps can be pulled from this battery how large does this battery end up becoming when it is usable amperage. How heavy is this battery? For operations that need pico amps maybe but then how is the electricity stored in the battery? What kind of degradation and oxidization would happen with the entire assembly over time? Theoretical statements are great like we have successful fusion energy that runs for a couple seconds. So it's possible but is it practical not yet how can it be adapted to work We don't have any of the information to even theorize on that yet. I'm theorizing this is due to the difference in a liquid versus solid or hybrid battery that uses a electrolyte I'm interested but not convinced. I'm way more interested in sodium ion technology. If we can increase the energy density and discharge capability of sodium ion, We would have practical long-term short-term general use and easily convertible batteries of similar size but with much better safety and transportation considerations inherently. As I am convinced hydrogen will replace standard petrol fuels alongside electric battery vehicles And we will have two definitive markets EbVs and H²Vs. I believe that these water battery applications are going to be confound to large bodies like wind solar and other green or blue energy production facilities that need to be able to store their peak capacity to offset their unusable time of use. Most of these technologies look too far in the future to transition smoothly We are not going to see practical uses of water batteries in our consumer products. What we may see soon is a influx of sodium ion batteries are rechargeable and inform factors that are going to continue to be the standard for consumer products. I would maybe give graphene a upper hand in some small applications where high amperage draw may be needed at peak but not normally. My reason for this is carbon is very good at heat transfer which can be a bad thing when dealing with batteries but also a good thing when dealing with small amounts of peak current draw. I'm also predicting a rise in hybrid batteries that are coupled with super capacitors able to handle those higher discharges while having a high density storage. Any audio technician understands this principle and likely expects to see sodium ion technology rise in pro audio and car audio equipment. If anyone else has other thoughts on the future of battery standardization please jump in!

[@joebarbara3310]

I smoke a vape and they have rechargeable lithium-ion batteries I had one of them short out in a backpack 1 time when I was walking into Walmart I had my backpack on and instantly shot 3 1/2 foot flames outside my backpack melted the whole thing got hot enough to melt the metal external charger thing that I had in there with it melted all the way down in a matter of seconds so those lithium own batteries are not a joke it'd be so much tank for to have something else and won't explode

[@cam5816]

This is why you don’t cheap out and buy from China

[@mhdgs9944]

Important. Per liter

[@bobeterincraft6563]

yeah but since the energy density is double that means it’s double the energy per unit of man compared to lithium. i think(i haven’t done my igcse yet)

[@bobeterincraft6563]

the article is called “Scientists say new ‘water battery’ can hold more energy than lithium cells” and both are per litter so it’s 1200 per litter with water compared to 700 per litter

[@StormBladeTrue]

The water powered car is making a comeback.

[@simplyelectronic4840]

Please. Look up home msde coin batteries. Sanding the zinc off one side of a coin and adding a few other parts and some electrolyte, you can quite easily make anough juice to light a small led eith a smsll cell. If you were to do something similar that was maybe flexible and like the size of a plate and stacked many together, you could make a reasonable car battery if the math maths

[@lukefiras8735]

Thanks I'll check it out

[@nedoran5758]

So I had to look it up and "Reversible multielectron transfer I-/IO3- cathode enabled by a hetero-halogen electrolyte for high-energy-density batteries" is the name of the paper in the journal Nature Energy, I dont have access so haven't read it

[@marekant7776]

Yeah, sure

[@Morlev44]

There are plenty of battery chemistries already discovered. Somehow we keep using lithium...

[@demigod_gaming6362]

Source: trust me bro😂

[@yaminightcore9325]

Water vaporizes that's why we use lithium it's not a new technology it is a old technology which we don't use anymore coz of many reasons

[@vincentlawson6151]

well people in the comments dont take kindly to this, first off this is in "ides" which are stable ions of atoms, both the Iodine and Bromine, this makes them about as reactive as hydrogen peroxide, extra note, theres fluoride in the water, ions are that safe, these are not old at all, these are so new that the only information i could find on it is the study, now, i would tell you how this works and let you say "whatever" but no, ill tempt you to learn this stuff so you actually fucking understand it, now, go do some research with multiple trusted sources like my autistic ADHD having ass and learn this stuff cause its cool as hell.

[@selbendersiinge69]

👍

[@AmuzingInteresting]

Here we go. Water 💧 as the gas pump

[@klo1679]

Ever checked what dpf fluid is actually made of? It’s just water and urea.

[@michaeldarabasz7210]

This battery runs the new hydrogen hybrid car.

[@V12BigBlock]

Wow, another one of those amazing revolutionary things you'll never hear from again...

[@mocko69]

Lithium burns in water btw

[@anirhapsodist]

Lead acid?

[@mcpurplegaming8926]

Idk if this is fake or not, but why not just try to make it on your own and see it

[@ClinstarWoodard-lj1vt]

What makes the electricity

[@jhoughjr1]

These batteries will explode in a steamy mess.

[@nodishtoodeep3053]

Are we talking about vanadium redox batteries?

[@gwhyte01]

If this shit is true bravo it's about time battery technology got upgraded

[@brokesteak5071]

Water ,electricity,battery

[@Victorsvolkswagens]

Another water-based battery is a car battery 😂

[@blackhawkrescuemissiongame8461]

Lithium battery’s are pretty safe now, it’s LIPO batteries that are the unsafe ones

[@Zoundre]

So we could have had water powered vehicles before but that was buried by money. Now they went complicated it and say it's new. We could have developed and advanced this technology way before.

[@Llyd_ApDicta]

That is nonsense made up by people that have no idea what they are talking about. There is no such thing as a "water powered" vehicle unless you consider a steam engine.

[@00dogvic21]

I’m quite concerned about being in the cold at all

[@kano2444]

just in time for the US finding that large store of lithium, huh?

[@392hellscat7]

But... is it rechargeable?

[@noobking2335]

duh

[@DAMN__________]

The reason why lithium is on top is because of his size and flexibility, not its energy density

[@quarry1030]

Size is energy density. The reason it's on top is due to its durability and energy density.

[@DAMN__________]

@@quarry1030 durability? lol

[@liamsalamon2795]

We already did that

[@selbendersiinge69]

C rating?

[@JohnPong-ly2zg]

id believe it when I see it

[@UnoDoseMedia]

As long as THEY don't suppress the knowledge that makes that possible, which I am ABSOLUTELY positive that it will be swept under the rug like EVERYTHING else that has been good for the planet! We are doomed to destroy ourselves and the places we love here on Earth!

[@anthonyortiz5479]

But what's so crazy we couldn't have got here by ourselves somebody or something taught us this

[@BasicRift]

what ever happened to carbon batters

[@Big6C]

This is huge of true edit: I looked it up and they’re making progress. It’s not done yet or anywhere near ready for a public release. But still really cool.

[@user-hn6wv1er8b]

So it will be cheaper,

[@WTF_BBQ]

BULLSHT......... water starts electrolysis at 1.85 volts. That right there already tells me this guy is full of BS. There's no way it can compete with lithium or Sodium batteries.

[@typicalwatcher1557]

Then research it. They're called aqueous metal-ion batteries

[@WTF_BBQ]

@@typicalwatcher1557 You said "aqueous " which means water. This is already a baseline handicap for that chemistry. Lithium ion maxes out at 4.2 volts per cell which is way above water electrolysis potential. Lead acid batteries is the only aqueous battery that maxes out at 2.2 volts while all other aqueous maxes out at 1.8 volts, however, during the charging cycle of lead acid battery, the water undergo electrolysis releasing hydrogen gas. We all know this...... At best, you will need 2 cells just to match 1 lithium battery's voltage. This means that it will be heavier and bulkier than Lithium ion with the same energy density. This is not a battery for EV. It's more suited for solar power.......

[@typicalwatcher1557]

@@WTF_BBQ you're almost completely ignoring current research and mass potential as well as what's talked about in the video.

[@jarekr5784]

Fun fact: John Bannister Goodenough (/ˈɡʊdɪnʌf/ GUUD-in-uf;[3] July 25, 1922 - June 25, 2023) was an American materials scientist, a solid-state physicist, and a Nobel laureate in chemistry. From 1986 he was a professor of Mechanical,[4] Materials Science, and Electrical Engineering at the University of Texas at Austin. He is credited with identifying the Goodenough-Kanamori rules of the sign of the magnetic superexchange in materials, with developing materials for computer random-access memory and with inventing cathode materials for lithium-ion batteries. Also worked on a water-based battery 🔋 😳. End of thought 🤔

[@liljasere]

Tech grifters making videos about technology’s that can be debunked with some napkin math

[@turtles_will_fly]

really well edited and interesting- keep it going

[@GUNVALKERIE]

aka hydrogen fuel cell

[@theinternetfanatic8597]

They’ve invented… a hydrogen fuel cell…

[@jonathanfinger712]

One we have water batteries u we go and try to make a water powerd car then u will die and the invention will disappear

[@raresboghean2974]

They will find thie4 doom just like the guy who discovered the car runing on water !!!

[@intelle8950]

False. How can you even say electric vehicles require just 8kg of lithium batteries? One cell of electric vehicle battery weights about 500 grammes alone and you'll need hundreds of them for a single battery pack for a car.

[@onradioactivewaves]

Easy, 1km range.

[@selbendersiinge69]

🤦🤦🤦

[@selbendersiinge69]

Your listening comprehension is horrible

[@TGAcobalt]

Its real

[@quarry1030]

Give me, the sauce.

[@omgninja66]

K let's switch and stop wasting time.

[@pphelps2222]

This is real tech and still in development mostly by the Chinese. This video however is beyond stupid. 45 seconds of web searching will get you the real facts

[@Armorion]

Yeah this ain't it.

[@DylanBigBruh]

Rip

[@kodyrussell1623]

lol….no….just…no

[@user-gt3ho7ik7g]

Start with a lie . Just sad

[@typicalwatcher1557]

If these scientists do make these batteries well, it will be very important for our future

[@cmtcmt661]

Toke toke. Yea, they invented a car that runs off of water. Toke toke.

[@Bruuuuuu546]

One more thing easy way to get assnated if you decide to make it

[@papiparsons9045]

🤣

[@totoyfrost]

I imagine this like water base car never will be seeing again