Are Malaysian & Indonesian the SAME LANGUAGE?

[@teremaralalu9812]

Saya adalah orang Indonesia yang lahir dan dibesarkan di wilayah Flores yang memiliki belasan bahasa daerah. Sejak kecil mempelajari bahasa Indonesia di sekolah dengan tata bahasanya dan menggunakannya dalam segala kegiatan keseharian baik formal maupun informal. Merayakan hari sumpah pemuda dan bulan bahasa setiap tahun di sekolah. Ketika saya menonton KZbin dan menyimak orang Malaysia berbicara, saya tidak bisa memahaminya meskipun kosakata sama tetapi maksudnya berbeda. Dan secara gramatikal saya tidak paham dan sering berpikir keras untuk memahami maknanya. Saya pun tahu bahwa bahasa Melayu adalah akar dari bahasa Indonesia tetapi sedari kecil saya mengenal bahasa Indonesia sebagai bahasa Nasional dan bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa daerah. Bahasa Indonesia lahir atas kesadaran berbangsa satu di atas segala perbedaan yang ada. Memiliki makna historis yang panjang. Bahasa Indonesia digunakan dalam berbagai aspek kehidupan masyarakat Indonesia baik komunikasi, pengetahuan, pemerintahan, politik dan lainnya bukan hanya sekedar bahasa. Sekali lagi sebagai orang Indonesia tentu saja saya bangga memiliki bahasa Indonesia. Bahasa Indonesia akan tetap selalu menjadi Bahasa Indonesia. ❤

[@MrJoeft]

Wah anda orang pintar ini, susunan bahasa Indonesia anda sangat bagus sekali. inilah contoh bahasa Indonesia yang baik dan benar.👍

[@bonnieculla6210]

Emang absrd kok BM SMENNJENK itu LOL. Coba liat channel berita media mereka SUMPAH ABSRD BAT LOL

[@madbudyou]

That is so well written in Bahasa

[@NasyaEgi]

678 025C Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuijsen" is a Dutchman who was born in Solok, West Sumatra and mixed with the natives, interested in various Indonsian cultures, especially Minang/Malay, so he summarized the origins of the Indonsian language from the two great traditional figures of Minang Kabau "Tengku Nawawi with the title "Sutan Makmur" and Muhammad Taib with the title "Sutan Ibrahim" and the Dutch legalized/officialized the first spelling of Van Ophuijsen's version of 'Malay Language' as an intermediary language between colonialists and natives and in 1972 the Indonsian and Malaysian parties compromised on improving the Malay language for these two countries, EYD(Improved spelling) was used until now. Meanwhile, the language used by Indonsia from the colonial period until the 1901-1947 struggle and when the proclamation was read was the van Ophuijsen version of the spelling language. - The Malay tribe is one of the sub tribe of the Minang Kabau tribe, the spread of this Malay tribe is from Central Sumatra, the Malay Peninsula, west and north Borneo to southwest Philippines. - If the Malay language was not patented by Ophuijsen into the 'Alphabet' letters/characters, then it is very likely that Indonsian now uses Arabic (Jawi) letters/characters. Ophuijsen Spelling (1901) Republic Spelling or Soewandi Spelling (1947-1956) Spelling Reform (1956-1961) Melindo Spelling (1961-1967) New Spelling/Language and Literature Institute (LBK) (1967-1972) Improved Spelling (EYD) (1972-2015) General Guidelines for Indonsian Spelling (PUEBI) (2015-2022) Improved Indonsian Spelling (EYD)(2022) How could the Malay language become extinct, instead it is the Malay people of Malaysia who maintain the ancient/old Malay language. Meanwhile, the Malay language in Indonsia was changed and upgraded to become Indonsian. - This means that Indonsia is the one who destroyed/stole the Malay language. why do thieves shout thieves? Stup1d javqnese.. The bull symbol in the logo of the PD1P party (Indonsian Democratic Party of Struggle) is taken/copied from "Parta1 Nasional Indonesia1a", which also comes from "Perhimpunan Indonsia" which also comes from "Indische Vereen1ging" a social organization of Indonsian indigenous students founded by "Rajiun Harahap" (titled Sutan kasajangan soripada) with other friends in the Netherlands in 1908. - while Rajiun Harahap was once a student and teaching assistant of "Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuysen". Because of the great influence of Minang Kabau/Malay customs/culture on Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuyen, it also influenced the mindset of "Rajiun harahap" as his student, thus making the logo/symbol of the indigenous student organization 'Indische Vereeniging' become "Red and white buffalo head ". (Moreover, M.Hatta once served as the longest serving chairman of an Indonsian association) - then the symbol of the Indonsian National Party, was distorted/blended by Karno to become the head of a bull, and that is the logo of the party of Karno's descendants (the Megawat1) now. The 'Garuda' symbol, only became available after the formation of the 'State Badge Committee' on January 10 1950, which was regulated directly by the coordinating metric Sultan Hamid, there were 2 types of designs, namely from Muhammad Yamin and Sultan Hamid II, the two of which were combined to perfect each other, becoming the Garuda. - again and again, apart from the youth oath and the five principles initiated by Muhammad Yamin, the Garuda national emblem also involves Minang people and Sutan Hamid II, a Malay person as well, (Malays are one of the Minangkabau tribes). - Once again, javqnese just giving up his name, giving up fame, giving up his life, then betraying the nation and state. - What would you like to be proud of? There is no contribution other than being a sycophant and traitor. - It's so stupid that the 'buffalo fight' was lost to the Pagaruyung kingdom, pretending to claim to control the archipelago too. The meaning of the 'Minang kabau' word is winning buffalo. So there is nothing to be proud of from the Javq tribe, then they gained fame in the Minang civilization, type in Google: "keaslian prasasti adityawarman", open the Indonsian geogrqphic nationql site, there is a statement by a prof. Arlo who admits that it is only a one-sided claim based on assumptions High level fantasies link Adityawarman with the kingdom of Javq (Majqpahit). Even though there is no supporting evidence, this claim has easily entered Indonsian national history, and ordinary people (Javq stup1d) immediately believe it without finding out the valid data. It is increasingly proven and revealed that the disgrace of the Javq tribe is trying to dismantle history and distort the facts. (This is not much). Traitors to the nation pretend to be calling the 'nkri harga mati' (The unity of the country is non-negotiable) - This jealousy has been maintained from generation to generation by generations of the Javq tribe until now. If Javq were told to create their own country the size of Javq Island and create their own ideology, they would not be able to because human resources are low and natural resources are poor. (Try looking at the 'United Republic of Indonnsia' map on Google) They have no identity/no self-respect, they just want to gain name/fame, hang around for a living, occupy positions/seize power that the Malay heroes have struggled to form/establish. Seize the natural resources of other tribes' land and go on a spree on the suffering of the people. The proof is that in Papua there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg) but its people live in the poorest province in Indonsia, even though the regional budget is the 5th highest in Indonsia.

[@JahalGyver]

Ada aq kisah 😂

[@stan-qf3dk]

As an Indonesian I think I'd prefer to speak in English if given the chance to have a chat with a Malaysian

[@Anonymousalivee99]

FYI they are(Malaysian) understood about 99% words of indonesian or bahasa,,,even the slang words,, but not the Indonesian to Malaysian,,it's clear coz bahasa Indonesia has more speakers,, and influnced by Indonesian music and "sinetron" and contens creator on KZbin by Indonesian,,not the all Indonesian and Malaysian do speak English well ww

[@puravida98ify]

Nampak sangat tak pernah jumpa Malaysian. High chances they try to accommodate your accent/dialect. This is Malay hospitality & culture.

[@user-np3cp2cb7u]

​@@puravida98ify from someone who has worked with Melayu Malaysian and Chinese Malaysian, it's highly unlikely them Malaysians try to accomodate Indonesians' accents/dialects. it was 2 Melayu Malaysians, 3 Chinese Malaysians, 3 Javanese, 2 Indonesian Chinese, 2 Sundanese, 3 Bugis, 1 Flores, 2 Indonesian Borneans, 3 West Papuans, and them Malaysians' language adaptability so low to the point that they're practically excommunicated ー even by each other, because the Chinese Malaysian apparently ain't fluent in Bahasa Malaysia. Indian Malaysian seems to be cooler about language adaptability, though that might be an exceptional case since i only know only one Indian Malaysian who actually speaks _"kromo inggil"._ (type of formal Javanese language spoken by plebians to the revered ones)

[@missingking4791]

Na you just racist towards "malay"dasar jawa pencuri bahasa.

[@kamaruzzamanothman4431]

Atau mungkin bahasa isyarat. Lebih universal

[@Teacher.Taufik]

It is true that many Indonesian children do not acquire Bahasa Indonesia as their first language, particularly those who live in rural areas. Many of them acquire their local language first. They start to learn proper bahasa Indonesia once they get to primary schools. So, it is true that indonesia is a linguistically diverse country.

[@MatSani-wv1mb]

Sok tau loh

[@singkongkeju589]

Thats true, at least for me. I was born in 90s, at first i only spoke Javanese, then gradually learned Bahasa Indonesia. Thus, I would consider myself a Javanese native speaker.

[@BOPENKK]

Dhong Zhong ketawa ngakak lihat bahasa Rojak MALASIA gak laku aja BANGLASIA hantu bungkus 👻 Makanya jangan heran donK chnl trenpublika sudah membuktikan makanya hohoy yahoy yahut yihaa belajar sejarah di vlog chnl trenpublika 🤭🇲🇾❤️🇧🇩

[@jokomarsudi7241]

​@@singkongkeju589 sangat betul sekali, saya lancar bahasa indonesia di kelas 4 SD..

[@singkongkeju589]

@@jokomarsudi7241 nah sama pak saya Ingat betul kelas dua SD aja saya masih bertanya2 “tiba” itu apa karena sy yg orang ngapak taunya tiba itu “jatuh”

[@jlebert17]

Communicating with Malaysians from the Peninsula is more difficult to understand than with Malaysians from Sabah...that's my experience as an Indonesian

[@EverythingzPerfectz]

maybe because sabah has more 'baku' sound. actually, formal bahasa melayu speaks baku too... i talked with baku sound when i was little, especially when i started talking and writing, and throughout formal education, and formal event... but use the malay without baku in daily use as bahasa pasar. i have no problem communicating and understanding east malaysia and indonesian conversation.

[@thegrandlord2914]

​@@EverythingzPerfectzi don't think that's the case. In borneo even long before any european colonialist come, both side already using malay as international language to interact. Take note that malay language used by bornean are the type of malay language similiar to riau malay, indicated by it's formality of words, vocabulary and sentences. Because Indonesian language originated from Riau Malay, this making communication between indonesian and sabahan+sarawakian to be alot easier since their malay are come from the same type of malay that give birth to bahasa indonesia

[@kamaruzzamanothman4431]

Wajar. Sebutan di Sabah ikut sebutan baku.

[@Rahmat-gc4so]

Negara Indonesia cuma bahasa pemersatu bahasa Indonesia tidak seperti negara Malaysia, bahasa Malaysia bermacam macam tidak ada bahasa pemersatu, mereka memakai bahasa Melayu campur Inggris dan juga orang Cina di Malaysia memakai bahasa mandarin. Itu maka nya di akui UNESCO bahasa Indonesia Bahasa 10 dunia dan banyak orang luar negri memakai bahasa Indonesia

[@kamaruzzamanothman4431]

@@Rahmat-gc4so Jika kurang tahu, bagus jika tambah ilmu biar tidak kurang tahu

[@dhenoyznero]

In Indonesia, when there are films and cartoons from Malaysia that are shown in Indonesia, we as Indonesians still need Indonesian subtitles, this happens because Malaysian Malay pronunciation has a fast accent and the sound was not very clear even though they have the same similar vocabulary with us. If Indonesians want to try to understand Malaysian Malay conversations without subtitles then we have to switch our brain to 80s mode because their language is like 80s Indonesian movie which is no longer used in modern Bahasa Indonesia. It's like if you, as a native English user meet an Asian person who tries to speak English imperfectly, then you need a few seconds to understand what they say and sometimes you try hard to understand but actually you misunderstand what they say.

[@wmazim910]

Faktanya, orang Malaysia tinggal di Indonesia 6 bulan sudah fasih bertutur indonesia. Tapi Indonesia, bekerja di Malaysia 2 tahun, belum tentu fasih bertutur BM. Saya akui sebutan Msia agak sukar. Begitu juga orang luar lebih mudah bertutur B ind, kerana sebutan lebih mudah dan jelas

[@luckyalisanyoto8389]

Betul sekali,contoh simpel kartun upin ipin da subtitle Indonesia nya.Kl ga da,ga mungkin laku di Indonesia

[@jokotarub3066]

Betul sekali

[@erison_guci]

​@wmazim910 betul, terkendala aksen, mungkin kalau Orang Indonesia beretnis Melayu, dia bisa ikut aksen Malaysia, tetapi kalau etnis lain susah mau ikut. Makanya, Bahasa Indonesia diciptakan tanpa aksen.

[@ZackLee-13]

Walau ga ditranslate saya masih bs ngerti kok 😅😅 lagian yg nonton upin ipin adalah bocah bocah😅😅 mereka matanya ga bsa fokus jg untuk baca substtel😅😅 yang penting lucu itu udah cukup 😅

[@cobe2043]

Most Indonesians use subtitles when watching films from Malaysia... but most Malaysians don't use subtitles when watching Indonesian films.

[@fikriakmal6459]

I used to watch upin ipin and boboiboy when im a child I can understand them even without subtitle but i cant speak them aswell Its like my parent mother langguage,do i undertand what they said? Absolutly Do i can speak that langguage? Definetly no

[@blackcbr150]

Haha. Win

[@afnanfaris8071]

subtitle for me just break the real meaning. btw I'm from Sumatera so baha melayu is not foreigner for me.

[@DiniKusuma]

as Indonesian from Java ... I know both languages basically come from the same root, but honestly ... due to many 'small' differences between one to another language, I prefer to speak English with the Malaysians to avoid mis-communication or mis-understanding

[@polyglotdreams]

But not everyone can speak English at that level.

[@KhomAsian]

That's correct, from 1 source Malay. Just put the ego down to write the honest.

[@broiswa7608]

Bahasa Melayu Malaysia sulit dipahami oleh orang Indonesia ..apa lagi bahasa Melayu Malaysia sekarang ini sudah dicampur dengan bahasa inggris/bahasa rojak.hingga orang Indonesia semakin tak paham 😁

[@PQY1146]

​@@broiswa7608.. bahasa Indonesia lebih banyak menyerapkan bahasa inggeris daripada bahasa Melayu Malaysia.

[@k.w.f5792]

@@PQY1146 where is your source?? Indonesia is more from the Dutch word, but there is English loan word in Indonesian for sure, but is not as much as Malay. Even in the video is already been mention that BM is more English and Arabic. BI is Dutch and sanskrit or Javanese, Which is make sanse cuz it's history.

[@Saluranmasadepanofficial]

Bahasa indonesia 🇮🇩 & bahasa Malaysia 🇲🇾 berasal dari 1 akar yang sama, yang di namakan (bahasa melayu) namun, kini, akar itu telah bercabang dan memiliki arah yang berbeda-beda dan semakin lama perbeda'an itu semakin jauh, terutama bahasa Indonesia 🇮🇩 yang terus berkembang karena pengaruh dari bahasa lokal Indonesia 🇮🇩 yang sangat banyak, terutama bahasa jawa, sunda, bali, batak, banjar, bugis, flores, maluku, papua dan lain-lain, hal seperti ini tidak terjadi di malaysia 🇲🇾, kedua bahasa ini tidak lagi bisa di katakan sebagai bahasa yang sama meskipun ada kosakata yang sama, dan bahkan di masa depan kemungkinan bahasa Indonesia akan benar-benar tidak bisa di pahami oleh orang malaysia karena beberapa tahun sekali kosakata baru salalu muncul di dalam kamus bahasa Indonesia 🇮🇩 yang di ambil dari beberapa bahasa lokal Indonesia 🇮🇩 untuk mengganti bahasa pinjaman yang ada di dalam kamus bahasa Indonesia 🇮🇩 kami menyebut nya sebagai (I-N-D-O-N-E-S-I-A-S-I-S-A-S-I • B-A-H-A-S-A • I-N-D-O-N-E-S-I-A)

[@LeeMichin]

Setuju dengan pendapat saudara. Hal yang sama juga berlaku dengan bahasa-bahasa "indo-european" seperti B. Perancis, B. Itali, B. Sepanyol, B. Portugis dan B. Romania. Walaupun mempunyai akar yang sama dan struktur tatabahasa yang hampir serupa, banyak kosakata bahasa-bahasa ini telah berubah seperti sebutan, ejaan dan lain-lain lagi kerana pengaruh bahasa-bahasa tempatan yang lain. Jika bahasa Indonesian telah melalui proses indonesiasisasi, bahasa-bahasa lain turut mengalami proses yang lama mengikut arus pemodenan dan polisi bahasa negara masing-masing. Contohnya, "italianisation, francisation, arabisation etc." (Dalam b. Perancis).

[@rajamangkatdijulang]

Sayangnya komen kamu guna bahasa melayu, tak ada nampak bahasa jawa, sunda, bataknya, bahasa indonesia itu cuma ganti nama aja

[@Bergaraa]

Indonesia has wisdom about language 1. Use and love Indonesian 2. Preserve regional languages 3. Master foreign languages

[@Bergaraa]

@@mjo750 my bad, English is my fourth language

[@jepunbiru]

@@Bergaraa Funny gorilla

[@bonnieculla6210]

@@jepunbiru MLESAK JONIS??? MAKSA KLAIM JADI RAS TAPI DITENTUKAN DARI AGAMA TERTENTU UDAH PERSIS SERIWIL LOL

[@Bergaraa]

@@jepunbiru who hurt you?

[@BOPENKK]

Ya betul sejarah sesat malasya dan kebohongan Malasya sudah dibongkar habis di chnl trenpublika 🇲🇾🇧🇩🤭

[@caturputra6054]

Malaysian is not spoken by 33 million people. That is the population of Malaysia. Meanwhile, ethnic Indians and Chinese mostly speak their own languages. The results of the research were that only 45% of ethnic Chinese could speak Malaysian.

[@mohdazuarshamsuddin986]

Where is your data?

[@caturputra6054]

@@mohdazuarshamsuddin986 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmeUcpiCo8h-g7s Kenapa Chinese Indonesia Lebih Patriotis Berbanding Chinese Malaysia?

[@caturputra6054]

@@mohdazuarshamsuddin986 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmeUcpiCo8h-g7s Kenapa Chinese Indonesia Lebih Patriotis Berbanding Chinese Malaysia? Min 06:20.

[@rickville8898]

It may fewer than that

[@caturputra6054]

@@mohdazuarshamsuddin986 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nmeUcpiCo8h-g7s Kenapa Chinese Indonesia Lebih Patriotis Berbanding Chinese Malaysia? Min 06:20.

[@oki9395]

I believe, before we can talk about the similarity between both languages, we have to understand the historical roots of both. And before we can talk about their historical roots, we need to understand the definition of Malay/Melayu by Malaysian and Indonesian. In Indonesia, Melayu is a small part of diverge ethnicities, while in Malaysia, Malay is all bumiputera as whole. That's why Indonesian do not think Indonesian language was exclusively from Melayu language, while Malaysian think Indonesian has the same root with Malay language. If Indonesian and Malaysian cannot understand to each other, it's very understandable because Indonesian language was not have the only root from Melayu language, but also heavily influenced by Dutch, Chinese, and Arab. And also, the the Javanese, Sundanese, Maduranese, Balinese, Dayak ethnicities, Nusa Tenggara ethnicities, Sulawesi ethnicities, Ambonese, Papua, and other Maluku ethnicities are not considering themselves as "Melayu" (Unlike how Malaysian think they are). And historically + archeologically, some of them are truly not have the same root with Melayu ethnicity. As example, some ethnics were really direct Chinese descendants or Arab descendants, or the older people migrated before the came of that "Malay" to the archipelago. This is the one thing need to be cleared between Malaysian and Indonesian at the first hand.

[@thegrandlord2914]

Nias ethnic from nias islands are chinese descandant from southern china, the same with dayak ethnic. Batak ethnic are descendant of hebrew people. A research of this already conducted when local batak scientist and researcher found alot of similiarities between batak tribe and israelite, they tracking batak roots only to find that although batak people are not belong to the missing tribes of israelite, batak people coming from the same ancestor as the israelite, which is the hebrew

[@GraculaReligiosa-404.b]

658 Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuijsen" is a Dutchman who was born in Solok, West Sumatra and mixed with the natives, interested in various Indonsian cultures, especially Minang/Malay, so he summarized the origins of the Indonsian language from the two great traditional figures of Minang Kabau "Tengku Nawawi with the title "Sutan Makmur" and Muhammad Taib with the title "Sutan Ibrahim" and the Dutch legalized/officialized the first spelling of Van Ophuijsen's version of 'Malay Language' as an intermediary language between colonialists and natives and in 1972 the Indonsian and Malaysian parties compromised on improving the Malay language for these two countries, EYD(Improved spelling) was used until now. Meanwhile, the language used by Indonsia from the colonial period until the 1901-1947 struggle and when the proclamation was read was the van Ophuijsen version of the spelling language. - The Malay tribe is one of the sub tribe of the Minang Kabau tribe, the spread of this Malay tribe is from Central Sumatra, the Malay Peninsula, west and north Borneo to southwest Philippines. - If the Malay language was not patented by Ophuijsen into the 'Alphabet' letters/characters, then it is very likely that Indonsian now uses Arabic (Jawi) letters/characters. Ophuijsen Spelling (1901) Republic Spelling or Soewandi Spelling (1947-1956) Spelling Reform (1956-1961) Melindo Spelling (1961-1967) New Spelling/Language and Literature Institute (LBK) (1967-1972) Improved Spelling (EYD) (1972-2015) General Guidelines for Indonsian Spelling (PUEBI) (2015-2022) Improved Indonsian Spelling (EYD)(2022) How could the Malay language become extinct, instead it is the Malay people of Malaysia who maintain the ancient/old Malay language. Meanwhile, the Malay language in Indonsia was changed and upgraded to become Indonsian. - This means that Indonsia is the one who destroyed/stole the Malay language. why do thieves shout thieves? Stup1d javqnese.. The bull symbol in the logo of the PD1P party (Indonsian Democratic Party of Struggle) is taken/copied from "Parta1 Nasional Indonesia1a", which also comes from "Perhimpunan Indonsia" which also comes from "Indische Vereen1ging" a social organization of Indonsian indigenous students founded by "Rajiun Harahap" (titled Sutan kasajangan soripada) with other friends in the Netherlands in 1908. - while Rajiun Harahap was once a student and teaching assistant of "Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuysen". Because of the great influence of Minang Kabau/Malay customs/culture on Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuyen, it also influenced the mindset of "Rajiun harahap" as his student, thus making the logo/symbol of the indigenous student organization 'Indische Vereeniging' become "Red and white buffalo head ". (Moreover, M.Hatta once served as the longest serving chairman of an Indonsian association) - then the symbol of the Indonsian National Party, was distorted/blended by Karno to become the head of a bull, and that is the logo of the party of Karno's descendants (the Megawat1) now. The 'Garuda' symbol, only became available after the formation of the 'State Badge Committee' on January 10 1950, which was regulated directly by the coordinating metric Sultan Hamid, there were 2 types of designs, namely from Muhammad Yamin and Sultan Hamid II, the two of which were combined to perfect each other, becoming the Garuda. - again and again, apart from the youth oath and the five principles initiated by Muhammad Yamin, the Garuda national emblem also involves Minang people and Sutan Hamid II, a Malay person as well, (Malays are one of the Minangkabau tribes). - Once again, javqnese just giving up his name, giving up fame, giving up his life, then betraying the nation and state. - What would you like to be proud of? There is no contribution other than being a sycophant and traitor. - It's so stupid that the 'buffalo fight' was lost to the Pagaruyung kingdom, pretending to claim to control the archipelago too. The meaning of the 'Minang kabau' word is winning buffalo. So there is nothing to be proud of from the Javq tribe, then they gained fame in the Minang civilization, type in Google: "keaslian prasasti adityawarman", open the Indonsian geogrqphic nationql site, there is a statement by a prof. Arlo who admits that it is only a one-sided claim based on assumptions High level fantasies link Adityawarman with the kingdom of Jawq Majqpahit. Even though there is no supporting evidence, this claim has easily entered Indonsian national history, and ordinary people (Javq stup1d) immediately believe it without finding out the valid data. It is increasingly proven and revealed that the disgrace of the Javq tribe is trying to dismantle history and distort the facts. (This is not much). Traitors to the nation pretend to be calling the 'nkri harga mati' (The unity of the country is non-negotiable) - This jealousy has been maintained from generation to generation by generations of the Javq tribe until now. If Javq were told to create their own country the size of Javq Island and create their own ideology, they would not be able to because human resources are low and natural resources are poor. (Try looking at the 'United Republic of Indonnsia' map on Google) They have no identity/no self-respect, they just want to gain name/fame, hang around for a living, occupy positions/seize power that the Malay heroes have struggled to form/establish. Seize the natural resources of other tribes' land and go on a spree on the suffering of the people. The proof is that in Papua there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg) but its people live in the poorest province in Indonsia, even though the regional budget is the 5th highest in Indonsia.

[@oki9395]

@@GraculaReligiosa-404.b For all those long article, there are some points that you had missed: 1. Prof Charles lived in West Sumatera. That's no surprising that he thought highly about Melayu over other ethnics who lived in Indonesia. 2. Alphabetic writing had been known by the native scholars of Hindia Belanda. Prof Charles might have some contributions, but so did the Hindia Belanda government -if you think Indonesian people must say thank you for that. One scholar definitely could not make all citizens adopted alphabetic writing, unlike the government with their administrative purpose. Oh yes, if you think Indonesian language would adopt java writing, that's unlikely because each ethnics in Indonesia have their own writing system which are still used until now. It would be very confusing if all ethnics are forced to use Javanese writing system. 3. Fyi, Javanese writing system is not Arabic. It was from Sanskrit. 4. When you said that Indonesian used Melayu language in our independent (in 17 August 1945), I believe you have no idea that the name Indonesian language was coined long before and was made public in 28 October 1928 when our ancestors said their oath: "menjunjung tinggi bahasa persatuan, Bahasa Indonesia." Because in that day, every ethnics in Hindia Belanda (now Indonesia) gathered and realized that they had different languages, and had the same believe that they need one language to unified them, i.e., Bahasa Indonesia. 5. Much later, years after our independence, and Malaysia was declared as an independent nation, the talk about Malay language was happened between Malaysia and Indonesia. I don't want to make a controversy here, because I heard the story was so much different than what you know. I won't tell the version that I know, but let say that Indonesian government just wanted to help. Well, Malaysian very adept using English until now, unlike we Indonesian, just saying. 6. Regarding point 5. It was impossible that Indonesian government wanted to change Indonesian language into Malay language. We celebrate Sumpah Pemuda every year, that we remember the content of the oath since we're still in elementary school. I told you already, our government just wanted to help, at least in the story version that I know. 7. Don't blame the Javanese. First, Javanese is considered as Malay, too, in your pov, isn't it? Secondly, Bahasa Indonesia is not solely developed from Java language. As I said in my previous post, Indonesian language is richly developed from so many native languages, including Chinese, Arabs, Dutch. And since in elementary school, we've been taught that Indonesian language was developed from the ancient southern India language. I believe that language is our mother language, for most native languages in Indonesia and Indochina. 8. Regarding point no 7, actually I do believe that Melayu (Malay) language have significant contributions to Indonesian language. I was once read Hikajat Abdullah, and despite I couldn't understand fully the language, but most of the part I could. We Indonesian just very dislike if anyone claim that Melayu language was the sole contributor. Indonesian language is our sacred unifying language, no ethnics is above other ethnics, we're all stand on the same level and sit on the same ground. Not even the Javanese, whose now the major ethnic in Indonesia, fond of the idea that they're above other ethnics. 9. I'm not Javanese by ethnicity, but I do love Javanese people, I love make friends with them, and we love to hangout, sleep in the same room even the same bed, eat on the same table, harsh joking to each other, but noone is butt hurt. Do you love the other ethnics in Malaysia as we do here? 10. Sorry for my bad English. As I told you before, you Malaysian people is more adept in English than us. As far as I know, our ancestors still using our own native languages in the time of Dutch colonization, that's why we never adept to Dutch language, although their language contributed a lot to Indonesian language. No quarrel, ok?

[@NasyaEgi]

Gio👍 Historical factual data directly from trusted sources on official state institutional websites, who can argue with that? (DPR/People's Representative Council, Ministry of Education and Culture/kemendikbud, BPS/Central Statistics Agency, Indonsian National Geographic, etc.).

[@NasyaEgi]

659 Long before the Republic of Indonsia was founded in the 20th century, Malay civilization existed in the 5th century in Minanga and had spread beyond the territory of Indonsia. That's why there is rendang in Malaysia because there is the Minang kingdom in "Negri Sembilan", and many Malay kings outside Indonesia are descended from the Pagaruyung/Minang kingdom of West Sumatra, the Malay tribe is one of the subtribe of the Minangkabau tribe. The Minang (Malay) people are the most influential tribe in Southeast Asia. The proof is: - The first king of Brunei Darussalam "Awang Alak Betatar/Muhammad Shah" and "Hasanal Bolkiah" were Minang people who succeeded in establishing their own country and were able to prosper their people with free taxes, education, health, their flag was black/yellow/red like "Marawa" Minangkabau/Pagaruyung kingdom. - The first king of Malaysia, "Tuanku Abdul Rahman" was a Minang man who was able to advance his country to defeat Indonsia, which was led by Javqnese people. After 77 years of independence, he had only just started basic projects outside the island of Java. - The first president of Singapore "Yusof Ishak" was also Minang. - Even the king in the Sulu kingdom in the Philippines "Sulayman" was Minang too. 3 founding figures of 3 religious organizations in Indonsia, learned from Shaykh Ahmad Khathib Al-Minangkabawi Rahimahullah THIS IS A FACT, everyone can prove it is true, type in Google: "Father of the Republic of Indonsia" is a Javqnese person? "Originally in Indonsian" open kemendikbud website, is it from Javqnese? - 90% of the Indonsian language comes from the Malay language whose spelling was perfected, and the founding heroes of the Republic of Indonsia were also mostly Minang (Malay), M.Hatta was the leader of the Indonsian delegation at the round table which made Indonsia de facto independent from the Netherlands. In his book (rowing between 2 rocks) contains the concept of free, active/non-aligned politics and his friend Nehru proposed it internationally. It was M.Hatta who formulated the text of the proclamation, Sikarno was only a writer and reader, even elementary school children could do it. - Legislative, Executive, Judicial is a large-scale implementation of the Minangkabau customary government system (Tungku tigo sajarangan) - 3 of the 4 founding fathers "founders of the Republic of Indonsia" were Minang/Malay, (Tan Malaka, Mohammad Hatta, Sutan Sjahrir and Sikarno), their statues are on tanah datar, West Sumatra was inaugurated by the DPR (Regional Representatives Council). Sikarno, a representative of the Javq tribe/island, his only ability was talking bullshit, a power-hungry dictator, a collector of wealth and a collection of wives, search on KZbin: "Sukarn0: jadi islam jangan jadi arab", what does that mean by being racist? - Sikarno was afraid that Indonsia would become an Islamic country, coincidentally the Malays were the ones who were the most religious, intellectual and had a strong sense of identity, so that Sikarno frantically felt that he was being competed/hindered in achieving his ambition to become president of Indonsia for the rest of his life, with a communist dictatorship system that had a secular/liberal social character. - that's why he carried out 1001 tricks to further his ambitions, he tried to weaken the influence of other tribes in Indonsia (especially his hatred of the Malay civilization) - Sikarno was jealous when he saw that the Malays had succeeded in establishing their own country in the land of their ancestors (Malaysia), he incited the Indonsian people to destroy Malaysia, because he had not achieved his wish to control the land of Malacca, Sikarno vented his frustration with the genocide of the Minang/Malay ethnic group in Central Sumatra on the grounds of the PRRI rebellion, even though that was just a complaint from the people because they were treated unfairly by Sikarno's system of government, centralizing the javq island focus only, Central Sumatra was broken up into smaller ones, an ignorant Javq person was made governor of that region, of course he was incompetent because he didn't understand the local culture. - Even though previously Sikarno studied politics and religion from many Malay people, after independence he actually betrayed the genocide of the (Malay) heroes. Tan Malaka (father of the Republic of Indonsia) was killed by Sikarno's orders, because he was afraid that Indonsia's leadership would fall into the hands of Malay people, barbaric Javq. Sikarno once said "a great nation is a nation that does not forget the services of its heroes and history." He himself and Harto were the ones who recorded the embarrassing history of "a great disgrace for Indonsia" (the enemy under cover). - Holding office is incompetent, like a brat who doesn't know political etiquette/ethics, simply violates the applicable constitution, SHOULD after 2 terms (5 years, 2 terms) resign like M.Hatta and hold an election (how come he served 22 years and Harto served 32 year?), Sikarno abolished the 1945 law with the concept of "guided democracy", so that his dictatorship would be free, he dissolved the official legislative institution of the DPR, disbanded the cleric party (Masyumi), unilaterally created the 5th armed group from civilians/farmers/laborers as a competitor to national army which had not sided with Sikarno, the generals who had different opinions (witnesses to his rot) were killed in the lubang buaya (G30spk1), - Siharto continued the dictatorship of Sikarno, with 1001 tricks to change the historical story through media and education, pitting people against each other into conflict so that the government had an excuse to genocide non-Javq ethnic groups under the guise of eradicating rebels. - Indonsia is just as old as corn and is pretending to be colonizing other people's land (in the "Timor Gap" agreement, Siharto and Asutralia conspired to colonize/thief Greater Sunrice Timor Leste's oil). Sikarno slave of Nikita Khrushchev (PK1/unisoviet) Siharto is a slave to Ronald Reagan (capitalist/western) Sijoko slave Xi jin ping (komun1s/ch1na) Whatever the course, as long as a Javq person becomes president of Indonsia, he will always be a slave. Search on YuTube: "Luhut: suku non-Jawq mustahil jadi presiden", this is the minister itself which says 'Indonsian democracy is not neutral', from the start the laws have been dismantled by the Javq tribe, the oligarchs descended from Karno/Harto have blocked the steps of the non-Javq tribe to entered the top of politics. - In order to dominate politics, the Javq tribe used the military to reduce the population of non-Javq tribes, brutally massacred thousands of common people, tortured, confiscated, raped (the number of victims exceeded the victims of the war against foreign invaders) and then the entire javqnese diaspora seized indigenous land and distributed it to Javanese people. under the guise of transm1gration. Now there are almost 50% of the tadpole tribe in Indonsia, if there are 3 candidates in the election, the Javq candidate will definitely win, because 50% of the vote will only be for 1 Javq candidate. - The name is "a democratic country" in fact "Social justice and prosperity for ALL Indonsian people" is just a dream, 53 years of independence only led by 2 dictators, even then there has been no significant progress, instead it is full of conflict and economic crisis, the president is busy thinking about wealth ,throne,woman. Lowly worldly slave. After resigning from vice president, Muhammad Hatta only became a teacher, he was not crazy about his position and did not carry any wealth. Malay people are dignified, civilized, intellectual and have self-respect. The motto of the Minangkabau tribe is in accordance with Islamic monotheism "Customary based on Shari'a, Shari'a based on the Al-Qur'an", the first principle "Belief in one and only God" is the result of Hatta's thinking, while the principle of the Javq representative is "family" even though it is talking about the state/national scope, it looks stupid. Sikarno also acknowledged the intellectuality of Minang/Malay people, he said: "Think like Minang people, talk like Batak people, work like Javqnese people" - Javqnese is just a worker/slave, it's no wonder he's incompetent as a leader. In the world population review, the income of Indonsian citizens under $10 = Rp. 155 thousand per day is around 79% or the equivalent of 219 million people out of a total population of 278 million people, while the income of Malaysia below that is not recorded. The IQ of javqnese citizens is below average, only 78, while Malays is 87. INDON IS A RACIST COUNTRY "Racial equality" is only at 37, Malay 48. On Wik1ped1a, Malaysia is the 19th most peaceful country in the world, while Indonsia is at number 53. Type on KZbin: "Papua barters noodles" even though there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg), while the most corrupt provinces in Indonsia are Javq provinces, the state budget is used up for stalled projects, type on Google: - deviation from guided democracy - the number of Karno's wives and assets - The highest criminal province in Indonsia - the province with the most cases of children in Indonsia - the most divorced province in Indonsia - sesqjen(kejqwen)/rice throwing culture in ngqwi Well, you know.. the factual data records UP TO THIS SECOND that the Javqnese are low class, traitors to the nation, greedy/covetous, barbarians (riots of football supporters, criminal gangs, bullying, boys who block trucks/squatting IQ, crotch brains, hundreds of schoolgirls who are pregnant out of wedlock, divorced mostly, the culture of shirk kjawen doesn't pray, primitive) all the bad ones javqnese are kings, Javq is a crisis of manners/morals/ethics. it's appropriate for there to be conflict in other people's countries, samp1t, sambqs, pos0, etc. This is the reason why Indonsia is lagging behind.

[@skudzag737]

Even me as an Indonesian and non linguistic major student, i can understand clearly what u explain us about, and make me want to learn more about languages not just foreign languages but my own language also. Even my Indonesian language teacher can't explain it better than u, Sir ngl. Thank u for explain us about both languages differences and similarities. Keep up the good works, Professor! Respect 🙏✨ Salam dari Indonesia ❤ 🇮🇩

[@khaidirabdulmajid6151]

As a Malaysian, I can understand bahasa Indonesia in the formal form but when chatting with an Indonesian in the streets, it wll take an effort for me to understand fully what was said, unless the Indonesian speaker make an effort to speak in full formal sentences.

[@polyglotdreams]

That is interesting.

[@aslimanwar6074]

😅😅😅 u need to define 'the formal form'... coz even professor from malaysia having trouble to understand the content of scientific journals while he was in Indonesia doing seminar...

[@NasyaEgi]

333 Long before the Republic of Indonsia was founded in the 20th century, Malay civilization existed in the 5th century in Minanga and had spread beyond the territory of Indonsia. That's why there is rendang in Malaysia because there is the Minang kingdom in "Negri Sembilan", and many Malay kings outside Indonesia are descended from the Pagaruyung/Minang kingdom of West Sumatra, the Malay tribe is one of the subtribe of the Minangkabau tribe. The Minang (Malay) people are the most influential tribe in Southeast Asia. The proof is: - The first king of Brunei Darussalam "Awang Alak Betatar/Muhammad Shah" and "Hasanal Bolkiah" were Minang people who succeeded in establishing their own country and were able to prosper their people with free taxes, education, health, their flag was black/yellow/red like "Marawa" Minangkabau/Pagaruyung kingdom. - The first king of Malaysia, "Tuanku Abdul Rahman" was a Minang man who was able to advance his country to defeat Indonsia, which was led by Javqnese people. After 77 years of independence, he had only just started basic projects outside the island of Java. - The first president of Singapore "Yusof Ishak" was also Minang. - Even the king in the Sulu kingdom in the Philippines "Sulayman" was Minang too. 3 founding figures of 3 religious organizations in Indonsia, learned from Shaykh Ahmad Khathib Al-Minangkabawi Rahimahullah THIS IS A FACT, everyone can prove it is true, type in Google: "Father of the Republic of Indonsia" is a Javqnese person? "Originally in Indonsian" open kemendikbud website, is it from Javqnese? - 90% of the Indonsian language comes from the Malay language whose spelling was perfected, and the founding heroes of the Republic of Indonsia were also mostly Minang (Malay), M.Hatta was the leader of the Indonsian delegation at the round table which made Indonsia de facto independent from the Netherlands. In his book (rowing between 2 rocks) contains the concept of free, active/non-aligned politics and his friend Nehru proposed it internationally. It was M.Hatta who formulated the text of the proclamation, Sikarno was only a writer and reader, even elementary school children could do it. - Legislative, Executive, Judicial is a large-scale implementation of the Minangkabau customary government system (Tungku tigo sajarangan) - 3 of the 4 founding fathers "founders of the Republic of Indonsia" were Minang/Malay, (Tan Malaka, Mohammad Hatta, Sutan Sjahrir and Sikarno), their statues are on tanah datar, West Sumatra was inaugurated by the DPR (Regional Representatives Council). Sikarno, a representative of the Javq tribe/island, his only ability was talking bullshit, a power-hungry dictator, a collector of wealth and a collection of wives, search on KZbin: "Sukarn0: jadi islam jangan jadi arab", what does that mean by being racist? - Sikarno was afraid that Indonsia would become an Islamic country, coincidentally the Malays were the ones who were the most religious, intellectual and had a strong sense of identity, so that Sikarno frantically felt that he was being competed/hindered in achieving his ambition to become president of Indonsia for the rest of his life, with a communist dictatorship system that had a secular/liberal social character. - that's why he carried out 1001 tricks to further his ambitions, he tried to weaken the influence of other tribes in Indonsia (especially his hatred of the Malay civilization) - Sikarno was jealous when he saw that the Malays had succeeded in establishing their own country in the land of their ancestors (Malaysia), he incited the Indonsian people to destroy Malaysia, because he had not achieved his wish to control the land of Malacca, Sikarno vented his frustration with the genocide of the Minang/Malay ethnic group in Central Sumatra on the grounds of the PRRI rebellion, even though that was just a complaint from the people because they were treated unfairly by Sikarno's system of government, centralizing the javq island focus only, Central Sumatra was broken up into smaller ones, an ignorant Javq person was made governor of that region, of course he was incompetent because he didn't understand the local culture. - Even though previously Sikarno studied politics and religion from many Malay people, after independence he actually betrayed the genocide of the (Malay) heroes. Tan Malaka (father of the Republic of Indonsia) was killed by Sikarno's orders, because he was afraid that Indonsia's leadership would fall into the hands of Malay people, barbaric Javq. Sikarno once said "a great nation is a nation that does not forget the services of its heroes and history." He himself and Harto were the ones who recorded the embarrassing history of "a great disgrace for Indonsia" (the enemy under cover). - Holding office is incompetent, like a brat who doesn't know political etiquette/ethics, simply violates the applicable constitution, SHOULD after 2 terms (5 years, 2 terms) resign like M.Hatta and hold an election (how come he served 22 years and Harto served 32 year?), Sikarno abolished the 1945 law with the concept of "guided democracy", so that his dictatorship would be free, he dissolved the official legislative institution of the DPR, disbanded the cleric party (Masyumi), unilaterally created the 5th armed group from civilians/farmers/laborers as a competitor to national army which had not sided with Sikarno, the generals who had different opinions (witnesses to his rot) were killed in the lubang buaya (G30spk1), - Siharto continued the dictatorship of Sikarno, with 1001 tricks to change the historical story through media and education, pitting people against each other into conflict so that the government had an excuse to genocide non-Javq ethnic groups under the guise of eradicating rebels. - Indonsia is just as old as corn and is pretending to be colonizing other people's land (in the "Timor Gap" agreement, Siharto and Asutralia conspired to colonize/thief Greater Sunrice Timor Leste's oil). Sikarno slave of Nikita Khrushchev (PK1/unisoviet) Siharto is a slave to Ronald Reagan (capitalist/western) Sijoko slave Xi jin ping (komun1s/ch1na) Whatever the course, as long as a Javq person becomes president of Indonsia, he will always be a slave. Search on YuTube: "Luhut: suku non-Jawq mustahil jadi presiden", this is the minister itself which says 'Indonsian democracy is not neutral', from the start the laws have been dismantled by the Javq tribe, the oligarchs descended from Karno/Harto have blocked the steps of the non-Javq tribe to entered the top of politics. - In order to dominate politics, the Javq tribe used the military to reduce the population of non-Javq tribes, brutally massacred thousands of common people, tortured, confiscated, raped (the number of victims exceeded the victims of the war against foreign invaders) and then the entire javqnese diaspora seized indigenous land and distributed it to Javanese people. under the guise of transm1gration. Now there are almost 50% of the tadpole tribe in Indonsia, if there are 3 candidates in the election, the Javq candidate will definitely win, because 50% of the vote will only be for 1 Javq candidate. - The name is "a democratic country" in fact "Social justice and prosperity for ALL Indonsian people" is just a dream, 53 years of independence only led by 2 dictators, even then there has been no significant progress, instead it is full of conflict and economic crisis, the president is busy thinking about wealth ,throne,woman. Lowly worldly slave. After resigning from vice president, Muhammad Hatta only became a teacher, he was not crazy about his position and did not carry any wealth. Malay people are dignified, civilized, intellectual and have self-respect. The motto of the Minangkabau tribe is in accordance with Islamic monotheism "Customary based on Shari'a, Shari'a based on the Al-Qur'an", the first principle "Belief in one and only God" is the result of Hatta's thinking, while the principle of the Javq representative is "family" even though it is talking about the state/national scope, it looks stupid. Sikarno also acknowledged the intellectuality of Minang/Malay people, he said: "Think like Minang people, talk like Batak people, work like Javqnese people" - Javqnese is just a worker/slave, it's no wonder he's incompetent as a leader. In the world population review, the income of Indonsian citizens under $10 = Rp. 155 thousand per day is around 79% or the equivalent of 219 million people out of a total population of 278 million people, while the income of Malaysia below that is not recorded. The IQ of javqnese citizens is below average, only 78, while Malays is 87. INDON IS A RACIST COUNTRY "Racial equality" is only at 37, Malay 48. On Wik1ped1a, Malaysia is the 19th most peaceful country in the world, while Indonsia is at number 53. Type on KZbin: "Papua barters noodles" even though there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg), while the most corrupt provinces in Indonsia are Javq provinces, the state budget is used up for stalled projects, type on Google: - deviation from guided democracy - the number of Karno's wives and assets - The highest criminal province in Indonsia - the province with the most cases of children in Indonsia - the most divorced province in Indonsia - sesqjen(kejqwen)/rice throwing culture in ngqwi Well, you know.. the factual data records UP TO THIS SECOND that the Javqnese are low class, traitors to the nation, greedy/covetous, barbarians (riots of football supporters, criminal gangs, bullying, boys who block trucks/squatting IQ, crotch brains, hundreds of schoolgirls who are pregnant out of wedlock, divorced mostly, the culture of shirk kjawen doesn't pray, primitive) all the bad ones javqnese are kings, Javq is a crisis of manners/morals/ethics. it's appropriate for there to be conflict in other people's countries, samp1t, sambqs, pos0, etc. This is the reason why Indonsia is lagging behind.

[@NasyaEgi]

334 Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuijsen" is a Dutchman who was born in Solok, West Sumatra and mixed with the natives, interested in various Indonsian cultures, especially Minang/Malay, so he summarized the origins of the Indonsian language from the two great traditional figures of Minang Kabau "Tengku Nawawi with the title "Sutan Makmur" and Muhammad Taib with the title "Sutan Ibrahim" and the Dutch legalized/officialized the first spelling of Van Ophuijsen's version of 'Malay Language' as an intermediary language between colonialists and natives and in 1972 the Indonsian and Malaysian parties compromised on improving the Malay language for these two countries, EYD(Improved spelling) was used until now. Meanwhile, the language used by Indonsia from the colonial period until the 1901-1947 struggle and when the proclamation was read was the van Ophuijsen version of the spelling language. - The Malay tribe is one of the sub tribe of the Minang Kabau tribe, the spread of this Malay tribe is from Central Sumatra, the Malay Peninsula, west and north Borneo to southwest Philippines. - If the Malay language was not patented by Ophuijsen into the 'Alphabet' letters/characters, then it is very likely that Indonsian now uses Arabic (Jawi) letters/characters. Ophuijsen Spelling (1901) Republic Spelling or Soewandi Spelling (1947-1956) Spelling Reform (1956-1961) Melindo Spelling (1961-1967) New Spelling/Language and Literature Institute (LBK) (1967-1972) Improved Spelling (EYD) (1972-2015) General Guidelines for Indonsian Spelling (PUEBI) (2015-2022) Improved Indonsian Spelling (EYD)(2022) How could the Malay language become extinct, instead it is the Malay people of Malaysia who maintain the ancient/old Malay language. Meanwhile, the Malay language in Indonsia was changed and upgraded to become Indonsian. - This means that Indonsia is the one who destroyed/stole the Malay language. why do thieves shout thieves? Stup1d javqnese.. The bull symbol in the logo of the PD1P party (Indonsian Democratic Party of Struggle) is taken/copied from "Parta1 Nasional Indonesia1a", which also comes from "Perhimpunan Indonsia" which also comes from "Indische Vereen1ging" a social organization of Indonsian indigenous students founded by "Rajiun Harahap" (titled Sutan kasajangan soripada) with other friends in the Netherlands in 1908. - while Rajiun Harahap was once a student and teaching assistant of "Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuysen". Because of the great influence of Minang Kabau/Malay customs/culture on Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuyen, it also influenced the mindset of "Rajiun harahap" as his student, thus making the logo/symbol of the indigenous student organization 'Indische Vereeniging' become "Red and white buffalo head ". (Moreover, M.Hatta once served as the longest serving chairman of an Indonsian association) - then the symbol of the Indonsian National Party, was distorted/blended by Karno to become the head of a bull, and that is the logo of the party of Karno's descendants (the Megawat1) now. The 'Garuda' symbol, only became available after the formation of the 'State Badge Committee' on January 10 1950, which was regulated directly by the coordinating metric Sultan Hamid, there were 2 types of designs, namely from Muhammad Yamin and Sultan Hamid II, the two of which were combined to perfect each other, becoming the Garuda. - again and again, apart from the youth oath and the five principles initiated by Muhammad Yamin, the Garuda national emblem also involves Minang people and Sutan Hamid II, a Malay person as well, (Malays are one of the Minangkabau tribes). - Once again, javqnese just giving up his name, giving up fame, giving up his life, then betraying the nation and state. - What would you like to be proud of? There is no contribution other than being a sycophant and traitor. - It's so stupid that the 'buffalo fight' was lost to the Pagaruyung kingdom, pretending to claim to control the archipelago too. The meaning of the 'Minang kabau' word is winning buffalo. So there is nothing to be proud of from the Javq tribe, then they gained fame in the Minang civilization, type in Google: "keaslian prasasti adityawarman", open the Indonsian geogrqphic nationql site, there is a statement by a prof. Arlo who admits that it is only a one-sided claim based on assumptions High level fantasies link Adityawarman with the kingdom of Javq (Majqpahit). Even though there is no supporting evidence, this claim has easily entered Indonsian national history, and ordinary people (Javq stup1d) immediately believe it without finding out the valid data. It is increasingly proven and revealed that the disgrace of the Javq tribe is trying to dismantle history and distort the facts. (This is not much). Traitors to the nation pretend to be calling the 'nkri harga mati' (The unity of the country is non-negotiable) - This jealousy has been maintained from generation to generation by generations of the Javq tribe until now. If Javq were told to create their own country the size of Javq Island and create their own ideology, they would not be able to because human resources are low and natural resources are poor. (Try looking at the 'United Republic of Indonnsia' map on Google) They have no identity/no self-respect, they just want to gain name/fame, hang around for a living, occupy positions/seize power that the Malay heroes have struggled to form/establish. Seize the natural resources of other tribes' land and go on a spree on the suffering of the people. The proof is that in Papua there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg) but its people live in the poorest province in Indonsia, even though the regional budget is the 5th highest in Indonsia.

[@centongsayur-rx9jw]

​@@polyglotdreamsFAKTA NYATA JELAS DI DEPAN MATA BAHWA 62 KOSAKATA BAHASA INDONESIA DIAMBIL DI JADIKAN SEBAGAI KAMUS BAHASA MELAYU MALAYSIA . BAHASA INDONESIA MEMPENGARUHI BAHASA MELAYU MALAYSIA .

[@teedeearr]

Bahasa Indonesia came from Bahasa Melayu. Period.

[@creativeworx47]

Oh man, you have no idea how much you helped me to understand both languages and key the main differences between them

[@rafiffathoni]

Firstly thanks for the video. It explained lot of things to people i believe. As i born and raised from Palembang, South Sumatera even though now living in Jakarta, yes I agree mostly to what both perspective from Malay and Indonesia. As the Palembang people speaks their own language as daily conversation named Palembang language, this language also contains both Malay and Javanese words. And i have couple friends from Malay and we do understand each others like 70-80% of the time. And if someone from the east side of Indonesia, perhaps they will understand Malay a lot harder than their fellow Indonesian from west because of the local language/dialect roots. For people who born and grew in Jakarta or near this region (JABODETABEK), they mostly use Bahas Indonesia in informal ways and maybe those quarter of Indonesian who speak Bahasa Indonesia are from this region.

[@polyglotdreams]

Terima kasih... great input

[@WanAmirulAsyraf]

Thank you for featuring me in your video, Tim! Looking forward to further collaborate with you

[@polyglotdreams]

Terima Kasih

[@farthurf.5221]

Thanks Malaysian buddy who's brave said the truth 👏 Indonesian and malay Malaysian language is different as written in science etc

[@WanAmirulAsyraf]

@@farthurf.5221 to be fair, I can argue for both languages being of the same origin. However, what makes me saying my view in the video was my experience travelling extensively within Riau Islands / Kepri during the past year (where there are sizable Malay speaking community).

[@shahesfelazi8549]

@@WanAmirulAsyraf people in KL don't understand what people in Kelantan talks, it does not mean that it is a different language I would say it is a different dialect. Even if a person were to go to Papua and heard Papuans speak Bahasa, it sounds like Malay. Balinese use the e pepet which also sounds very Malay. Minang people speak a hard dialect to understand, however they are the best at writing in Malay, like how a Scotsman can write beautifully in English. A totally different language is Tagalog, which has some similar words that sound like Malay but it would be very difficult for a Filipino and a Malaysian or an Indonesian to understand. Javanese, Dayak, Karo can be considered different languages not dialects. Indonesians don't want to accept it is the same language because they don't want to share. They like being exclusive and don't care to claims. Malaysians are not claiming as if Malay belongs to them, Bahasa is Bahasa, if you speak good Bahasa then you are a good person. As we say in Malay, Bahasa Jiwa Bangsa.

[@hix213]

simillar because malaysia stollen 60.000 words of indonesia time MABBIM cooperation, nnnn the worst part is thats malaysia and brunei don't know how to use it. do you know this😂 of course you know😂 malaysia often pays someone to do something😂 hope you get very big sallary, because malaysia is also country that often breaks promises. 😂

[@diamondore4830]

Indonesian here, Bahasa Indonesia is like American English, while Bahasa Malaysia is like British english, Indonesian tend to speak as how it's written, while Malaysian usually pronounce the end of the words differently from how the words are written, that's why Malaysian speakers can understand Formal Indonesian better than the other way arround, but it's also depend from where the Indonesian come from, people from sumatra and kalimantan can understand BM better than people from eastern Indonesian.

[@Dino-w99]

Are you being serious?? 😂

[@diamondore4830]

@@Dino-w99 yes, some words might have different meanings, but if you're used to the formal language one of them, then you could probably understand 60~80% the other one (also in formal form), but yeah, slank language is definitely a different problem..

[@BryanMinami]

​@@Dino-w99funny... I'm also thinking the same way when in malaysia.

[@unmsubiquiti8822]

yes, I agree with you

[@TemanmuBuleRusia]

First! Halo apa kabar dong? Makasih bngt krn km buat video tentang bahasa indo Im foreigner who makes own channel in Indonesian and i can say that both Indonesian and Malaysian people watch my videos! Itu keren sekali. Aku cinta bahasa ini

[@chrisbunka]

I subscribed.

[@polyglotdreams]

Bagus

[@adhityafadlirahman4867]

I think you’re wrong use “dong” there

[@amadsubekti2278]

Negara Indonesia adalah negara yang didirikan atas nama bahasa yaitu bahasa Indonesia, walaupun akar bahasa Indonesia berasal dari bahasa melayu ( Riau lingga) namun bahasa Indonesia sudah berevolusi berkembang jauh melebihi bahasa ibunya, dengan penyerapan kosakata dari bahasa asing dan bahasa daerah yang ada di Indonesia, sehingga bahasa Indonesia lebih modern dan praktis dalam mempersatukan daerah daerah yang ada di Indonesia, karena di Indonesia terdapat lebih dari 700 bahasa yang berbeda beda.

[@muhammadx57]

YAP Bahasa indonesia sudah di deklarasikan jauh sebelum indonesia merdeka, yang mendeklarasikan pemuda pemuda dari berbagai suku, di deklarasikan pemuda jawa, sunda, sumatra, batak, sulawesi, betawi, ambon dll bersama organisasi indonesia yang ada saat itu

[@GraculaReligiosa-404.b]

490 Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuijsen" is a Dutchman who was born in Solok, West Sumatra and mixed with the natives, interested in various Indonsian cultures, especially Minang/Malay, so he summarized the origins of the Indonsian language from the two great traditional figures of Minang Kabau "Tengku Nawawi with the title "Sutan Makmur" and Muhammad Taib with the title "Sutan Ibrahim" and the Dutch legalized/officialized the first spelling of Van Ophuijsen's version of 'Malay Language' as an intermediary language between colonialists and natives and in 1972 the Indonsian and Malaysian parties compromised on improving the Malay language for these two countries, EYD(Improved spelling) was used until now. Meanwhile, the language used by Indonsia from the colonial period until the 1901-1947 struggle and when the proclamation was read was the van Ophuijsen version of the spelling language. - The Malay tribe is one of the sub tribe of the Minang Kabau tribe, the spread of this Malay tribe is from Central Sumatra, the Malay Peninsula, west and north Borneo to southwest Philippines. - If the Malay language was not patented by Ophuijsen into the 'Alphabet' letters/characters, then it is very likely that Indonsian now uses Arabic (Jawi) letters/characters. Ophuijsen Spelling (1901) Republic Spelling or Soewandi Spelling (1947-1956) Spelling Reform (1956-1961) Melindo Spelling (1961-1967) New Spelling/Language and Literature Institute (LBK) (1967-1972) Improved Spelling (EYD) (1972-2015) General Guidelines for Indonsian Spelling (PUEBI) (2015-2022) Improved Indonsian Spelling (EYD)(2022) How could the Malay language become extinct, instead it is the Malay people of Malaysia who maintain the ancient/old Malay language. Meanwhile, the Malay language in Indonsia was changed and upgraded to become Indonsian. - This means that Indonsia is the one who destroyed/stole the Malay language. why do thieves shout thieves? Stup1d javqnese.. The bull symbol in the logo of the PD1P party (Indonsian Democratic Party of Struggle) is taken/copied from "Parta1 Nasional Indonesia1a", which also comes from "Perhimpunan Indonsia" which also comes from "Indische Vereen1ging" a social organization of Indonsian indigenous students founded by "Rajiun Harahap" (titled Sutan kasajangan soripada) with other friends in the Netherlands in 1908. - while Rajiun Harahap was once a student and teaching assistant of "Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuysen". Because of the great influence of Minang Kabau/Malay customs/culture on Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuyen, it also influenced the mindset of "Rajiun harahap" as his student, thus making the logo/symbol of the indigenous student organization 'Indische Vereeniging' become "Red and white buffalo head ". (Moreover, M.Hatta once served as the longest serving chairman of an Indonsian association) - then the symbol of the Indonsian National Party, was distorted/blended by Karno to become the head of a bull, and that is the logo of the party of Karno's descendants (the Megawat1) now. The 'Garuda' symbol, only became available after the formation of the 'State Badge Committee' on January 10 1950, which was regulated directly by the coordinating metric Sultan Hamid, there were 2 types of designs, namely from Muhammad Yamin and Sultan Hamid II, the two of which were combined to perfect each other, becoming the Garuda. - again and again, apart from the youth oath and the five principles initiated by Muhammad Yamin, the Garuda national emblem also involves Minang people and Sutan Hamid II, a Malay person as well, (Malays are one of the Minangkabau tribes). - Once again, javqnese just giving up his name, giving up fame, giving up his life, then betraying the nation and state. - What would you like to be proud of? There is no contribution other than being a sycophant and traitor. - It's so stupid that the 'buffalo fight' was lost to the Pagaruyung kingdom, pretending to claim to control the archipelago too. The meaning of the 'Minang kabau' word is winning buffalo. So there is nothing to be proud of from the Javq tribe, then they gained fame in the Minang civilization, type in Google: "keaslian prasasti adityawarman", open the Indonsian geogrqphic nationql site, there is a statement by a prof. Arlo who admits that it is only a one-sided claim based on assumptions High level fantasies link Adityawarman with the kingdom of Jawq Majqpahit. Even though there is no supporting evidence, this claim has easily entered Indonsian national history, and ordinary people (Javq stup1d) immediately believe it without finding out the valid data. It is increasingly proven and revealed that the disgrace of the Javq tribe is trying to dismantle history and distort the facts. (This is not much). Traitors to the nation pretend to be calling the 'nkri harga mati' (The unity of the country is non-negotiable) - This jealousy has been maintained from generation to generation by generations of the Javq tribe until now. If Javq were told to create their own country the size of Javq Island and create their own ideology, they would not be able to because human resources are low and natural resources are poor. (Try looking at the 'United Republic of Indonnsia' map on Google) They have no identity/no self-respect, they just want to gain name/fame, hang around for a living, occupy positions/seize power that the Malay heroes have struggled to form/establish. Seize the natural resources of other tribes' land and go on a spree on the suffering of the people. The proof is that in Papua there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg) but its people live in the poorest province in Indonsia, even though the regional budget is the 5th highest in Indonsia.

[@muhammadx57]

@@GraculaReligiosa-404.b bahasa melayu indonesia punah dan malaysia yg mempertahankan bahasa melayu? wkwk tong datanglha ke sumatra ke riau untuk menemukan bahasa melayu asli orignal bahasa melayu di malaysia sudah rusak dgn percampuran bahasa ingris wkwk, bahasa melayu di indonesia masih murni dan di gunakan orang2 melayu dan andi sepertinya bingung membedakan bahasa melayu dan indonesia wkwk, orang melayu di indonesia mereka sampai sekarang masih berbahasa melayu datang sendiri ke riau bahkan banyak di youtube bahkan orang malaysia sendiri banyak memuji bahasa melayu riau yang masih murni wkwk, kau bilang bahasa indonesia merusak bahasa melayu? wkwk akan di katakan merusak kalau di hilangkan dan di ganti indonesia faktannya tidak bahasa melayu tetap eksis sebagai bahasa daerah dan bahasa indonesia juga eksis sebagai bahasa negara jadi sekali lagi kalau komentar jangan panjang2 tapi ngak ada isi wkwk

[@GraculaReligiosa-404.b]

491 Long before the Republic of Indonsia was founded in the 20th century, Malay civilization existed in the 5th century in Minanga and had spread beyond the territory of Indonsia. That's why there is rendang in Malaysia because there is the Minang kingdom in "Negri Sembilan", and many Malay kings outside Indonesia are descended from the Pagaruyung/Minang kingdom of West Sumatra, the Malay tribe is one of the subtribe of the Minangkabau tribe. The Minang (Malay) people are the most influential tribe in Southeast Asia. The proof is: - The first king of Brunei Darussalam "Awang Alak Betatar/Muhammad Shah" and "Hasanal Bolkiah" were Minang people who succeeded in establishing their own country and were able to prosper their people with free taxes, education, health, their flag was black/yellow/red like "Marawa" Minangkabau/Pagaruyung kingdom. - The first king of Malaysia, "Tuanku Abdul Rahman" was a Minang man who was able to advance his country to defeat Indonsia, which was led by Javqnese people. After 77 years of independence, he had only just started basic projects outside the island of Java. - The first president of Singapore "Yusof Ishak" was also Minang. - Even the king in the Sulu kingdom in the Philippines "Sulayman" was Minang too. 3 founding figures of 3 religious organizations in Indonsia, learned from Shaykh Ahmad Khathib Al-Minangkabawi Rahimahullah THIS IS A FACT, everyone can prove it is true, type in Google: "Father of the Republic of Indonsia" is a Javqnese person? "Originally in Indonsian" open kemendikbud website, is it from Javqnese? - 90% of the Indonsian language comes from the Malay language whose spelling was perfected, and the founding heroes of the Republic of Indonsia were also mostly Minang (Malay), M.Hatta was the leader of the Indonsian delegation at the round table which made Indonsia de facto independent from the Netherlands. In his book (rowing between 2 rocks) contains the concept of free, active/non-aligned politics and his friend Nehru proposed it internationally. It was M.Hatta who formulated the text of the proclamation, Sikarno was only a writer and reader, even elementary school children could do it. - Legislative, Executive, Judicial is a large-scale implementation of the Minangkabau customary government system (Tungku tigo sajarangan) - 3 of the 4 founding fathers "founders of the Republic of Indonsia" were Minang/Malay, (Tan Malaka, Mohammad Hatta, Sutan Sjahrir and Sikarno), their statues are on tanah datar, West Sumatra was inaugurated by the DPR (Regional Representatives Council). Sikarno, a representative of the Javq tribe/island, his only ability was talking bullshit, a power-hungry dictator, a collector of wealth and a collection of wives, search on KZbin: "Sukarn0: jadi islam jangan jadi arab", what does that mean by being racist? - Sikarno was afraid that Indonsia would become an Islamic country, coincidentally the Malays were the ones who were the most religious, intellectual and had a strong sense of identity, so that Sikarno frantically felt that he was being competed/hindered in achieving his ambition to become president of Indonsia for the rest of his life, with a communist dictatorship system that had a secular/liberal social character. - that's why he carried out 1001 tricks to further his ambitions, he tried to weaken the influence of other tribes in Indonsia (especially his hatred of the Malay civilization) - Sikarno was jealous when he saw that the Malays had succeeded in establishing their own country in the land of their ancestors (Malaysia), he incited the Indonsian people to destroy Malaysia, because he had not achieved his wish to control the land of Malacca, Sikarno vented his frustration with the genocide of the Minang/Malay ethnic group in Central Sumatra on the grounds of the PRRI rebellion, even though that was just a complaint from the people because they were treated unfairly by Sikarno's system of government, centralizing the javq island focus only, Central Sumatra was broken up into smaller ones, an ignorant Javq person was made governor of that region, of course he was incompetent because he didn't understand the local culture. - Even though previously Sikarno studied politics and religion from many Malay people, after independence he actually betrayed the genocide of the (Malay) heroes. Tan Malaka (father of the Republic of Indonsia) was killed by Sikarno's orders, because he was afraid that Indonsia's leadership would fall into the hands of Malay people, barbaric Javq. Sikarno once said "a great nation is a nation that does not forget the services of its heroes and history." He himself and Harto were the ones who recorded the embarrassing history of "a great disgrace for Indonsia" (the enemy under cover). - Holding office is incompetent, like a brat who doesn't know political etiquette/ethics, simply violates the applicable constitution, SHOULD after 2 terms (5 years, 2 terms) resign like M.Hatta and hold an election (how come he served 22 years and Harto served 32 year?), Sikarno abolished the 1945 law with the concept of "guided democracy", so that his dictatorship would be free, he dissolved the official legislative institution of the DPR, disbanded the cleric party (Masyumi), unilaterally created the 5th armed group from civilians/farmers/laborers as a competitor to national army which had not sided with Sikarno, the generals who had different opinions (witnesses to his rot) were killed in the lubang buaya (G30spk1), - Siharto continued the dictatorship of Sikarno, with 1001 tricks to change the historical story through media and education, pitting people against each other into conflict so that the government had an excuse to genocide non-Javq ethnic groups under the guise of eradicating rebels. - Indonsia is just as old as corn and is pretending to be colonizing other people's land (in the "Timor Gap" agreement, Siharto and Asutralia conspired to colonize/thief Greater Sunrice Timor Leste's oil). Sikarno slave of Nikita Khrushchev (PK1/unisoviet) Siharto is a slave to Ronald Reagan (capitalist/western) Sijoko slave Xi jin ping (komun1s/ch1na) Whatever the course, as long as a Javq person becomes president of Indonsia, he will always be a slave. Search on YuTube: "Luhut: suku non-Jawq mustahil jadi presiden", this is the minister itself which says 'Indonsian democracy is not neutral', from the start the laws have been dismantled by the Javq tribe, the oligarchs descended from Karno/Harto have blocked the steps of the non-Javq tribe to entered the top of politics. - In order to dominate politics, the Javq tribe used the military to reduce the population of non-Javq tribes, brutally massacred thousands of common people, tortured, confiscated, raped (the number of victims exceeded the victims of the war against foreign invaders) and then the entire javqnese diaspora seized indigenous land and distributed it to Javanese people. under the guise of transm1gration. Now there are almost 50% of the tadpole tribe in Indonsia, if there are 3 candidates in the election, the Javq candidate will definitely win, because 50% of the vote will only be for 1 Javq candidate. - The name is "a democratic country" in fact "Social justice and prosperity for ALL Indonsian people" is just a dream, 53 years of independence only led by 2 dictators, even then there has been no significant progress, instead it is full of conflict and economic crisis, the president is busy thinking about wealth ,throne,woman. Lowly worldly slave. After resigning from vice president, Muhammad Hatta only became a teacher, he was not crazy about his position and did not carry any wealth. Malay people are dignified, civilized, intellectual and have self-respect. The motto of the Minangkabau tribe is in accordance with Islamic monotheism "Customary based on Shari'a, Shari'a based on the Al-Qur'an", the first principle "Belief in one and only God" is the result of Hatta's thinking, while the principle of the Javq representative is "family" even though it is talking about the state/national scope, it looks stupid. Sikarno also acknowledged the intellectuality of Minang/Malay people, he said: "Think like Minang people, talk like Batak people, work like Javqnese people" - Javqnese is just a worker/slave, it's no wonder he's incompetent as a leader. In the world population review, the income of Indonsian citizens under $10 = Rp. 155 thousand per day is around 79% or the equivalent of 219 million people out of a total population of 278 million people, while the income of Malaysia below that is not recorded. The IQ of javqnese citizens is below average, only 78, while Malays is 87. INDON IS A RACIST COUNTRY "Racial equality" is only at 37, Malay 48. On Wik1ped1a, Malaysia is the 19th most peaceful country in the world, while Indonsia is at number 53. Type on KZbin: "Papua barters noodles" even though there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg), while the most corrupt provinces in Indonsia are Javq provinces, the state budget is used up for stalled projects, type on Google: - deviation from guided democracy - the number of Karno's wives and assets - The highest criminal province in Indonsia - the province with the most cases of children in Indonsia - the most divorced province in Indonsia - sesqjen(kejqwen)/rice throwing culture in ngqwi Well, you know.. the factual data records UP TO THIS SECOND that the Javqnese are low class, traitors to the nation, greedy/covetous, barbarians (riots of football supporters, criminal gangs, bullying, boys who block trucks/squatting IQ, crotch brains, hundreds of schoolgirls who are pregnant out of wedlock, divorced mostly, the culture of shirk kjawen doesn't pray, primitive) all the bad ones javqnese are kings, Javq is a crisis of manners/morals/ethics. it's appropriate for there to be conflict in other people's countries, samp1t, sambqs, pos0, etc. This is the reason why Indonsia is lagging behind.

[@NasyaEgi]

- semua orang mengetahui Indonesia merdeka secara DEFACTO dari belanda, itu artinya indonesia Tidak merdeka secara resmi di mata hukum internasional. (Tidak lepas dari pengaruh penjajah) - syarat minimal negara resmi cuma butuh (Wilayah, rakyat, pemerintahan berdaulat). Status negara Hindia belanda (nusantara/indonsia) saat itu adalah negara resmi dengan pemerintahan berdaulat yg di pegang/miliki belanda. - jika merdeka defacto bermakna (pada kenyataan/praktik yg ada) artinya.... "merdeka" itu cuma embel-embel saja, pada kenyataan/praktiknya.. status indonsia tetap sama sebagai negara dudukan/jajahan/kekangan/boneka belanda. - jika merdeka secara resmi (dejure). Inilah yg baru merdeka sepenuhnya itu, tanpa melibatkan/pengaruh penjajah sama sekali. Itulah kenapa belanda masih jajah indonesia dengan agresi militer 1 (tanggal 21 juli 1947) dan agresi 2 (19 desember 1948) setelah pihak indonesia bacakan proklamasi (tanggal 17 agustus 1945), artinya belanda tidak akui kemerdekaan indonesia dari pembacaan proklamasi itu. - belanda baru akui kemerdekaan indonesia (itupun cuma defacto) saat pembentukan Republik Indonesia Serikat di konferensi meja bundar yg hasilnya Pihak belanda bersedia menyerahkan kedaulatan kepada pihak Republik Indonesia pada tanggal 27 Desember 1949. Artinya pihak pemerintah belanda baru akui kemerdekaan indonesia secara defacto tanggal 27 desember 1949, bukan tanggal 17 agustus 1945. Itulah kenapa pihak pemerintah indonsia masih ingin minta pengakuan merdeka secara resmi (dejure) dari belanda, karena HINGGA DETIK INI indonesia belum merdeka resmi (dejure) dari belanda menurut data Hukum internasional. Ketik di gogle: "Tanggal merdeka defacto indonesia" lalu buka s1tus Dewan perwakilan rakyat indonesia. Baca sampai habis.. Jadi.. indonsia merdeka pemberian dari belanda, bukan merdeka resmi(dejure) apalagi merdeka karena bambu runcing lawan alutsista militer eropa yg canggih. - lawan penjajah pakai otak seperti orang melayu yg intelektual, bukan seperti jawq dungu pakai otot saja. - sampai kiamat atau sampai habis pendudukmu jadi militer, pakai bambu runcing tak akan pernah sanggup lawan pistol alutsista eropa yg canggih. Itu hanya mati kony0l yg jadi bahan tertawaan militer eropa. Itulah kenapa urusan konferensi/diplomasi di kancah internasional sangat penting untuk dapatkan pengakuan internasional dan terdata secara resmi. - Di bagian inilah peranan penting yg di lakukan kebanyakan pahlawan melayu, seperti Tan malaka, Muhammad Hatta, yg berkoar-koar di dalam kandang singa (eropa), tuk perkenalkan negara 'hindia belanda' akan merdeka dari belanda dengan nama "indonesie" berbentuk republik. - percuma si karn0 kau koar-koar/mengonggong dalam negri, Itu tidak akan berikan efek apapun, negara terbelakang asia (tenggara) akan tetap leluasa di obok-obok oleh eropa. - yg lakukan perundingan ke eropa di konferensi meja bundar adalah di ketuai Bung Hatta hingga hasilnya indon merdeka secara defacto... Berterima kasih lah kau/kalian suku jawq pada orang melayu, berkat merekalah kau sekarang bisa hidup nyaman. Lalu apa yg kau sombongkan pada orang melayu? Negara kau aja merdeka cuma pemberian belanda, negara dan bahasa kau aja buatan orang melayu. siapa bapak republik indonesia? Orang jawq kah? - tanpa libatkan orang jawq, republik indonesia akan tetap berdiri di tangan orang melayu. Kau/klian tu cuma kaum budak rendahan yg nompang hidup, ngaca.. tau diri kau... 95juta jiwa/hampir 50% pendudvk indon adalah suku ceb0ng ampqs.. beban negara..

[@samheru]

Correction: Pergi is not a prefix for "gi", since pergi is verb. Also "Per" usually combine with suffix "an". Correct use: Per + verb + an , Per + tanya + an. Tanya = Ask (verb) while combined with prefix "per" and suffix "an" become "noun" . so Pertanyaan means Question.

[@kilanspeaks]

It depends on who you ask. While Indonesians acknowledge that both languages ​​have the same roots, they would say that they evolved separately and became different languages. On the other hand, most Malaysians (our Malaysian polyglot is a rare exception) would insist that they are the same language and try to convince you that they would only have difficulty understanding Indonesians when they use colloquial words, but when Indonesians use formal forms, they would understand them perfectly. This is of course wrong. As the Indonesian polyglot said in the video, even in formal forms, there are so many different terms, in addition to false friends and loanword usage, and even the rules of syntax and grammar may be different in the two languages.

[@sonnymak6707]

I speak American Canadian and English. Although I can really under stand Irish and Australian well. I also speak Huayu Putonghua Guoyu and Mandarin. I also can speak Malay and Indonesian. I also learning Spanish and Castellano but Mexicans tell me I should learn Mexican as well.b

[@GraculaReligiosa-404.b]

507 Long before the Republic of Indonsia was founded in the 20th century, Malay civilization existed in the 5th century in Minanga and had spread beyond the territory of Indonsia. That's why there is rendang in Malaysia because there is the Minang kingdom in "Negri Sembilan", and many Malay kings outside Indonesia are descended from the Pagaruyung/Minang kingdom of West Sumatra, the Malay tribe is one of the subtribe of the Minangkabau tribe. The Minang (Malay) people are the most influential tribe in Southeast Asia. The proof is: - The first king of Brunei Darussalam "Awang Alak Betatar/Muhammad Shah" and "Hasanal Bolkiah" were Minang people who succeeded in establishing their own country and were able to prosper their people with free taxes, education, health, their flag was black/yellow/red like "Marawa" Minangkabau/Pagaruyung kingdom. - The first king of Malaysia, "Tuanku Abdul Rahman" was a Minang man who was able to advance his country to defeat Indonsia, which was led by Javqnese people. After 77 years of independence, he had only just started basic projects outside the island of Java. - The first president of Singapore "Yusof Ishak" was also Minang. - Even the king in the Sulu kingdom in the Philippines "Sulayman" was Minang too. 3 founding figures of 3 religious organizations in Indonsia, learned from Shaykh Ahmad Khathib Al-Minangkabawi Rahimahullah THIS IS A FACT, everyone can prove it is true, type in Google: "Father of the Republic of Indonsia" is a Javqnese person? "Originally in Indonsian" open kemendikbud website, is it from Javqnese? - 90% of the Indonsian language comes from the Malay language whose spelling was perfected, and the founding heroes of the Republic of Indonsia were also mostly Minang (Malay), M.Hatta was the leader of the Indonsian delegation at the round table which made Indonsia de facto independent from the Netherlands. In his book (rowing between 2 rocks) contains the concept of free, active/non-aligned politics and his friend Nehru proposed it internationally. It was M.Hatta who formulated the text of the proclamation, Sikarno was only a writer and reader, even elementary school children could do it. - Legislative, Executive, Judicial is a large-scale implementation of the Minangkabau customary government system (Tungku tigo sajarangan) - 3 of the 4 founding fathers "founders of the Republic of Indonsia" were Minang/Malay, (Tan Malaka, Mohammad Hatta, Sutan Sjahrir and Sikarno), their statues are on tanah datar, West Sumatra was inaugurated by the DPR (Regional Representatives Council). Sikarno, a representative of the Javq tribe/island, his only ability was talking bullshit, a power-hungry dictator, a collector of wealth and a collection of wives, search on KZbin: "Sukarn0: jadi islam jangan jadi arab", what does that mean by being racist? - Sikarno was afraid that Indonsia would become an Islamic country, coincidentally the Malays were the ones who were the most religious, intellectual and had a strong sense of identity, so that Sikarno frantically felt that he was being competed/hindered in achieving his ambition to become president of Indonsia for the rest of his life, with a communist dictatorship system that had a secular/liberal social character. - that's why he carried out 1001 tricks to further his ambitions, he tried to weaken the influence of other tribes in Indonsia (especially his hatred of the Malay civilization) - Sikarno was jealous when he saw that the Malays had succeeded in establishing their own country in the land of their ancestors (Malaysia), he incited the Indonsian people to destroy Malaysia, because he had not achieved his wish to control the land of Malacca, Sikarno vented his frustration with the genocide of the Minang/Malay ethnic group in Central Sumatra on the grounds of the PRRI rebellion, even though that was just a complaint from the people because they were treated unfairly by Sikarno's system of government, centralizing the javq island focus only, Central Sumatra was broken up into smaller ones, an ignorant Javq person was made governor of that region, of course he was incompetent because he didn't understand the local culture. - Even though previously Sikarno studied politics and religion from many Malay people, after independence he actually betrayed the genocide of the (Malay) heroes. Tan Malaka (father of the Republic of Indonsia) was killed by Sikarno's orders, because he was afraid that Indonsia's leadership would fall into the hands of Malay people, barbaric Javq. Sikarno once said "a great nation is a nation that does not forget the services of its heroes and history." He himself and Harto were the ones who recorded the embarrassing history of "a great disgrace for Indonsia" (the enemy under cover). - Holding office is incompetent, like a brat who doesn't know political etiquette/ethics, simply violates the applicable constitution, SHOULD after 2 terms (5 years, 2 terms) resign like M.Hatta and hold an election (how come he served 22 years and Harto served 32 year?), Sikarno abolished the 1945 law with the concept of "guided democracy", so that his dictatorship would be free, he dissolved the official legislative institution of the DPR, disbanded the cleric party (Masyumi), unilaterally created the 5th armed group from civilians/farmers/laborers as a competitor to national army which had not sided with Sikarno, the generals who had different opinions (witnesses to his rot) were killed in the lubang buaya (G30spk1), - Siharto continued the dictatorship of Sikarno, with 1001 tricks to change the historical story through media and education, pitting people against each other into conflict so that the government had an excuse to genocide non-Javq ethnic groups under the guise of eradicating rebels. - Indonsia is just as old as corn and is pretending to be colonizing other people's land (in the "Timor Gap" agreement, Siharto and Asutralia conspired to colonize/thief Greater Sunrice Timor Leste's oil). Sikarno slave of Nikita Khrushchev (PK1/unisoviet) Siharto is a slave to Ronald Reagan (capitalist/western) Sijoko slave Xi jin ping (komun1s/ch1na) Whatever the course, as long as a Javq person becomes president of Indonsia, he will always be a slave. Search on YuTube: "Luhut: suku non-Jawq mustahil jadi presiden", this is the minister itself which says 'Indonsian democracy is not neutral', from the start the laws have been dismantled by the Javq tribe, the oligarchs descended from Karno/Harto have blocked the steps of the non-Javq tribe to entered the top of politics. - In order to dominate politics, the Javq tribe used the military to reduce the population of non-Javq tribes, brutally massacred thousands of common people, tortured, confiscated, raped (the number of victims exceeded the victims of the war against foreign invaders) and then the entire javqnese diaspora seized indigenous land and distributed it to Javanese people. under the guise of transm1gration. Now there are almost 50% of the tadpole tribe in Indonsia, if there are 3 candidates in the election, the Javq candidate will definitely win, because 50% of the vote will only be for 1 Javq candidate. - The name is "a democratic country" in fact "Social justice and prosperity for ALL Indonsian people" is just a dream, 53 years of independence only led by 2 dictators, even then there has been no significant progress, instead it is full of conflict and economic crisis, the president is busy thinking about wealth ,throne,woman. Lowly worldly slave. After resigning from vice president, Muhammad Hatta only became a teacher, he was not crazy about his position and did not carry any wealth. Malay people are dignified, civilized, intellectual and have self-respect. The motto of the Minangkabau tribe is in accordance with Islamic monotheism "Customary based on Shari'a, Shari'a based on the Al-Qur'an", the first principle "Belief in one and only God" is the result of Hatta's thinking, while the principle of the Javq representative is "family" even though it is talking about the state/national scope, it looks stupid. Sikarno also acknowledged the intellectuality of Minang/Malay people, he said: "Think like Minang people, talk like Batak people, work like Javqnese people" - Javqnese is just a worker/slave, it's no wonder he's incompetent as a leader. In the world population review, the income of Indonsian citizens under $10 = Rp. 155 thousand per day is around 79% or the equivalent of 219 million people out of a total population of 278 million people, while the income of Malaysia below that is not recorded. The IQ of javqnese citizens is below average, only 78, while Malays is 87. INDON IS A RACIST COUNTRY "Racial equality" is only at 37, Malay 48. On Wik1ped1a, Malaysia is the 19th most peaceful country in the world, while Indonsia is at number 53. Type on KZbin: "Papua barters noodles" even though there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg), while the most corrupt provinces in Indonsia are Javq provinces, the state budget is used up for stalled projects, type on Google: - deviation from guided democracy - the number of Karno's wives and assets - The highest criminal province in Indonsia - the province with the most cases of children in Indonsia - the most divorced province in Indonsia - sesqjen(kejqwen)/rice throwing culture in ngqwi Well, you know.. the factual data records UP TO THIS SECOND that the Javqnese are low class, traitors to the nation, greedy/covetous, barbarians (riots of football supporters, criminal gangs, bullying, boys who block trucks/squatting IQ, crotch brains, hundreds of schoolgirls who are pregnant out of wedlock, divorced mostly, the culture of shirk kjawen doesn't pray, primitive) all the bad ones javqnese are kings, Javq is a crisis of manners/morals/ethics. it's appropriate for there to be conflict in other people's countries, samp1t, sambqs, pos0, etc. This is the reason why Indonsia is lagging behind.

[@GraculaReligiosa-404.b]

707 Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuijsen" is a Dutchman who was born in Solok, West Sumatra and mixed with the natives, interested in various Indonsian cultures, especially Minang/Malay, so he summarized the origins of the Indonsian language from the two great traditional figures of Minang Kabau "Tengku Nawawi with the title "Sutan Makmur" and Muhammad Taib with the title "Sutan Ibrahim" and the Dutch legalized/officialized the first spelling of Van Ophuijsen's version of 'Malay Language' as an intermediary language between colonialists and natives and in 1972 the Indonsian and Malaysian parties compromised on improving the Malay language for these two countries, EYD(Improved spelling) was used until now. Meanwhile, the language used by Indonsia from the colonial period until the 1901-1947 struggle and when the proclamation was read was the van Ophuijsen version of the spelling language. - The Malay tribe is one of the sub tribe of the Minang Kabau tribe, the spread of this Malay tribe is from Central Sumatra, the Malay Peninsula, west and north Borneo to southwest Philippines. - If the Malay language was not patented by Ophuijsen into the 'Alphabet' letters/characters, then it is very likely that Indonsian now uses Arabic (Jawi) letters/characters. Ophuijsen Spelling (1901) Republic Spelling or Soewandi Spelling (1947-1956) Spelling Reform (1956-1961) Melindo Spelling (1961-1967) New Spelling/Language and Literature Institute (LBK) (1967-1972) Improved Spelling (EYD) (1972-2015) General Guidelines for Indonsian Spelling (PUEBI) (2015-2022) Improved Indonsian Spelling (EYD)(2022) How could the Malay language become extinct, instead it is the Malay people of Malaysia who maintain the ancient/old Malay language. Meanwhile, the Malay language in Indonsia was changed and upgraded to become Indonsian. - This means that Indonsia is the one who destroyed/stole the Malay language. why do thieves shout thieves? Stup1d javqnese.. The bull symbol in the logo of the PD1P party (Indonsian Democratic Party of Struggle) is taken/copied from "Parta1 Nasional Indonesia1a", which also comes from "Perhimpunan Indonsia" which also comes from "Indische Vereen1ging" a social organization of Indonsian indigenous students founded by "Rajiun Harahap" (titled Sutan kasajangan soripada) with other friends in the Netherlands in 1908. - while Rajiun Harahap was once a student and teaching assistant of "Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuysen". Because of the great influence of Minang Kabau/Malay customs/culture on Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuyen, it also influenced the mindset of "Rajiun harahap" as his student, thus making the logo/symbol of the indigenous student organization 'Indische Vereeniging' become "Red and white buffalo head ". (Moreover, M.Hatta once served as the longest serving chairman of an Indonsian association) - then the symbol of the Indonsian National Party, was distorted/blended by Karno to become the head of a bull, and that is the logo of the party of Karno's descendants (the Megawat1) now. The 'Garuda' symbol, only became available after the formation of the 'State Badge Committee' on January 10 1950, which was regulated directly by the coordinating metric Sultan Hamid, there were 2 types of designs, namely from Muhammad Yamin and Sultan Hamid II, the two of which were combined to perfect each other, becoming the Garuda. - again and again, apart from the youth oath and the five principles initiated by Muhammad Yamin, the Garuda national emblem also involves Minang people and Sutan Hamid II, a Malay person as well, (Malays are one of the Minangkabau tribes). - Once again, javqnese just giving up his name, giving up fame, giving up his life, then betraying the nation and state. - What would you like to be proud of? There is no contribution other than being a sycophant and traitor. - It's so stupid that the 'buffalo fight' was lost to the Pagaruyung kingdom, pretending to claim to control the archipelago too. The meaning of the 'Minang kabau' word is winning buffalo. So there is nothing to be proud of from the Javq tribe, then they gained fame in the Minang civilization, type in Google: "keaslian prasasti adityawarman", open the Indonsian geogrqphic nationql site, there is a statement by a prof. Arlo who admits that it is only a one-sided claim based on assumptions High level fantasies link Adityawarman with the kingdom of Jawq Majqpahit. Even though there is no supporting evidence, this claim has easily entered Indonsian national history, and ordinary people (Javq stup1d) immediately believe it without finding out the valid data. It is increasingly proven and revealed that the disgrace of the Javq tribe is trying to dismantle history and distort the facts. (This is not much). Traitors to the nation pretend to be calling the 'nkri harga mati' (The unity of the country is non-negotiable) - This jealousy has been maintained from generation to generation by generations of the Javq tribe until now. If Javq were told to create their own country the size of Javq Island and create their own ideology, they would not be able to because human resources are low and natural resources are poor. (Try looking at the 'United Republic of Indonnsia' map on Google) They have no identity/no self-respect, they just want to gain name/fame, hang around for a living, occupy positions/seize power that the Malay heroes have struggled to form/establish. Seize the natural resources of other tribes' land and go on a spree on the suffering of the people. The proof is that in Papua there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg) but its people live in the poorest province in Indonsia, even though the regional budget is the 5th highest in Indonsia.

[@intrickchannel7705]

@@GraculaReligiosa-404.b Don't think too hard, Malaysia is still just a puppet country, most of their ancestors came from Indonesia, no debate

[@nayokoaji]

Try typing in Google, Malaysia: We Stole Everything from Indonesia

[@namikazelevi]

Malaysian understands Indonesian but Indonesian didn't understand Malaysian

[@wikigraciela9402]

Some times Indonesian understand malaysian

[@odeychan9014]

@@wikigraciela9402 but they said its different language

[@bonnieculla6210]

​@@odeychan9014SMENNJNK NGIRA SEMUA INDONESIA ITU MLAIUK LOL. YG NGERTI BM MLESAK LU YA YG MELAYU DOANK LAH. NGAPAIN MAYORITAS JAWA + SUNDA YG PUNYA BAHASA SENDIRI NGERTI BAHASA DAERAH LAIN? 😜😁🥴🥴🫵🏻

[@bonnieculla6210]

PORTUGIS - SPANYOL, JERMAN - BELANDA. ITU SEMUANYA SALING NGERTI BAHASA KARENA AKARNYA SAMA. PORTUGIS - SPANYOL DARI LATIN. JERMAN - BELANDA DARI JERMANIK. SEMUANYA JADI "BAHASA YG BEDA" KARENA MENGEMBANGKAN BAHASANYA SENDIRI DAN MEREKA PUNYA ABJAD MASING2 YG BEDA2.

[@bonnieculla6210]

​@@odeychan9014 PORTUGIS - SPANYOL, JERMAN - BELANDA. ITU SEMUANYA SALING NGERTI BAHASA KARENA AKARNYA SAMA. PORTUGIS - SPANYOL DARI LATIN. JERMAN - BELANDA DARI JERMANIK. SEMUANYA JADI "BAHASA YG BEDA" KARENA MENGEMBANGKAN BAHASANYA SENDIRI DAN MEREKA PUNYA ABJAD MASING2 YG BEDA2. MAKANYA GAK ADA BAHASA DI DUNIA YG DIKLAIM SAMA KALO ABJADNYA BEDA JAUH 🤪😜😁😁🥴🫵🏻

[@chrisbunka]

I've become interested in Indonesian since some of the Vtubers I am interested in are with Hololive Indonesia and speak mostly in Indonesian. I also fondly remember a series of beginner Malay workshops put on by Tohoku University Malay students when I was on the JET Program in Sendai in 2008. I can't get "Jumpa lagi!" out of my head even to this day. I also came across an Indonesian university in Sendai quite often since we were both involved in putting on cultural events. We eventually become acquaintances. Tim, what I would like to know is this: do you know of any decent and easily available Indonesian learning resources besides IndonesianPod101 and LingQ?

[@polyglotdreams]

Sangat bagus

[@argacc20417]

It's interesting to find people who are interested in Indonesia from vtuber😂

[@chrisbunka]

@@argacc20417 Thank Hololive.

[@NaFiS-91]

I wouldn't say that the lexical similarity is as high as 80%. Being Malaysian and grown up reading Indonesian books (I'm a bibliophile), I can say that at least 90-95% similar. "At least" not "as high as". Malaysian Malay and Indonesian in their standard written form is basically the same language. In many cases, Indonesian tend to be more Malay than Malaysian Malay, where a lot of Malay words in Malaysian Malay have been gradually replaced by English terms, as for example, Hospital (Malay: rumah sakit, Malaysian: hospital, Indonesian: rumah sakit), Zoo (Malay: taman/kebun binatang, Malaysian: zoo, Indonesian: kebun binatang), etc.

[@polyglotdreams]

thanks for the input

[@xiraoit9342]

Dan Malaysia ngaku paling Melayu🤡

[@BOPEENKK]

Dhong Zhong ketawa ngakak lihat bahasa Rojak MALASIA gak laku aja BANGLASIA hantu bungkus 👻👻 Sejarah mencatat patik patik Melayu palsu di MALASIA kebanyakan mereka kaum pendatang dri Indonesia yg hijrah ke MALASIA sebab itu banyak diaspora orang Indonesia sedangkan diaspora orang MALASIA tidak ada. Melayu palsu ,cina tamil India Bangla yg ada di malasya mereka kaum pendatang,suku asli merupakan suku original di ujung Medini Makanya jangan heran donK chnl trenpublika sudah membuktikan makanya hohoy yahoy yahut yihaa belajar sejarah di vlog chnl trenpublika 🤭🇲🇾❤️🇧🇩

[@nazgulblack7859]

Indonesian people don't understand Malaysian language even though Malaysian takes a lot of vocabulary from Indonesian

[@faiqahinsyirah7351]

@@nazgulblack7859 sorry to say Indonesian people pemalas. Ko faham tak cakap campur mcm ni? Aku hari2 cakap dengan org indon guna bahasa melayu je diorg faham. If they said some word I don't understand, I will Google. But Indonesia people aku keep explain same things many time they still don't remember what its mean. But I willing to learn Indonesia because for me it easy and I like to learn. The excuses they give, show how mentality in education, many of them don't like to learn other language they just love their Indonesia language only.

[@bruceweine830]

As an Indonesian who used to live in KL for 4 years, I think the “street” Malay and formal Malay (meaning Malay written on newspaper or spoken on news) are totally different. I can understand 80-90% of formal malay but once I’m talking to my Bumi friends or ppl on the street (grab drivers, mamak ppl) im struggling to understand the language at first (of course eventually I boleh paham). I also found that Bumi and Indian Malays accents or dialects are more difficult to understand somehow compared to Chinese Malays, which spoken closer to how Old Chinese Indonesian would speak their Bahasa Indonesia Now I live in Singapore (closer to 2 years), I think Singaporean Malay is closer to Indonesian Malay compared to Malaysian for some reason. Btw I see so many hatred in the comment section with armchair historians flexing their pseudo intellectual urges, but I just want to say as someone whose been living in all Malay speaking countries except Brunei, just chill, most of Malaysian that I met are lovely people and have a good or positive attitude towards us Indonesian. Also, Jokowi seems viewed as a gold standard of a southeast asian leader in Malaysia (until recently 😅)

[@fatahmukhriz8919]

Akar bagi bahasa Indonesia adalah bahasa melayu

[@amadeus7320]

​@@fatahmukhriz8919 Lalu?

[@malcolm83]

Terbaik bang. I lived in Bandung for six years in the early 2000s. My impression would be many Indonesians and Malaysians do not know each other country well enough apart from what being portrayed in the media, social media and movies/soap opera, as well as some ridiculously absurd stereotypes and cliches often associated with one country (hentak hentak kaki, hospital korban lelaki, to name a few). Thus it kinda explains the hostile attitudes of the keyboard armchair warriors on social media whenever Malaysia-Indonesia topics crop up. Many on both sides are simply ignorant. But if you meet and know people who have actually experienced and lived in the other country - me and you for example - the impression that we have would be wildly different than from what we were often told. People on both sides are generally kind, friendly and are very welcoming. I am gland to be one of those fortunate enough to know a different side of our closest neighbour Indonesia 😊

[@Luke-hm9vh]

@@fatahmukhriz8919akar bahasa ingris adalah bahasa jerman

[@zabeh._8936]

As a Singaporean Malay, one thing I absolutely hate about the Malay language in Malaysia and Singapore is that we keep using english words in them. And we almost never use Malay for higher edication, resulting in poor mastery over Malay and the inability to use Malay as an effective language of knowledge and debate. I swear, in Singapore, the Malay youth cant even speak Malay well. And throughout Singapore and Malaysia, the use of English (not loanwords) while speaking Malay effectively is almost unavoidable. Its a sad sight

[@raf1717]

Instead of using a religion or a political regime.. Indonesia use a language to unite the nation. "One language, Bahasa Indonesia" was part of the national Youth Pledge.

[@mirae9163]

As a Indonesian learner, i was surprised that i could use Indonesian to chat with Malaysian people without any knowledge of Malaysian. I also can understand 90% of the speech in Malaysian if i already understand it in Indonesian. The difference between them is like between American English and British English. And i've heard that linguistically, they're dialects of the same language, not different languages.

[@EverythingzPerfectz]

yes... you described it well.

[@mustakim8534]

For simple sentences, it is. But if you learn bahasa Indonesia deeper & complex sentences, you will know the diffrences, different languague structure between bahasa Indonesia & bahasa mekayu-malaysia

[@hix213]

kebalik anjjg.

[@EverythingzPerfectz]

@@mustakim8534 even if you read educational or stories or factual texts in bahasa melayu or bahasa indonesia, if you grasp the language, you will understand the texts... unless its an old historical/classical texts, both the malays and the indonesians may have some difficulties. its the same if you read old english classics texts compared to the modern ones, even native english people find reading classic texts difficult...let alone an outsider. Maybe the difference is like reading a mandarin story book written by a malaysian writer versus mandarin story book by china/taiwanese writer. some of the words used and description are more familiar to their place of origin, but you still can understand the storyline,other than a few unfamiliar phrases. maybe you can start reading works from both texts and see if you have any difficulties.

[@ah5904]

nah, it's different languages. Try to talk gorden, sepatu, bengkel, mobil, kedubrak, and so on(these are Indonesian words). They'll(Malaysian) think for a sec or maybe don't understand it at all bcs they don't have these WORDS. These words are not MELAYU moreover MALAYSIAN-MELAYU. These are all DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. Just like Nordic, Latin, Germanic & English. Just because they came from the same root, doesn't mean they are the same languages and just different dialects. Or maybe you want to say that European speak the same languages with different languages, then sure. Think whatever you like :)

[@kimdongdot2471]

First time i came to Malaysia, i needed 6 months to learn bahasa Melayu eventhough my first language is Indonesian..its better to speak in English with Malaysian to avoid misunderstanding or humiliating myself..i cant understand 100% either formal or informal language..people assume its the same, but once you learn both languages you'll realize its different languanges..same roots but very different branches..

[@afnanfaris8071]

what I know since I was kid at school is that bahasa Indonesia is taken from Bahasa Melayu, even nowadays in my place some old people prefer to say "he is talking in bahasa melayu" when their family from city visited and the children speak in bahasa Indonesia rather than bahasa daerah. they call like this: anaknya pakai bahasa melayu, tak panda bahasa kampung. but actually the children speak bahasa indonesia not malay :D What i want to say is, in my place, Bahasa Melayu = Bahasa Indonesia. Maybe they, the old ppl, when they were kids these two langs look the same, not too many different like we know today

[@polyglotdreams]

Terima kasih

[@ronzac55]

I mostly tend to speak English to Malaysian tourists when they speak bahasa Malay to me. Even though my English comprehension is rather low, i still find it more comfortable to reply them with English 😂. I guess it is because we mostly see international tourists are not all capable to communicate with Indonesian language. The funniest moment was when a Malaysian tourist bought something in my store and i said "Thank you", he replied "sama-sama", and i said "have a nice day." 😂😂 As how i would say to white or chinese tourists.

[@MatSani-wv1mb]

Karna malaysia gk punya bahasa ibu

[@Ali_art]

Its normal for malaysian to reply "sama sama" to a "thank you". I do that almost everytime

[@fatahmukhriz8919]

Malay language is one of the Austronesian languages. It is spoken mainly in Malaysia and various Malay dialects are spoken in Indonesia. The Indonesian language, official in Indonesia, is based on Malay. Most languages in Indonesia are Austronesian. Malay is closely related to other languages of the Malayic group, including Iban on Borneo, it is also quite closely related to the Chamic languages, spoken mainly in mainland Southeast Asia, and on Sumatra, and also to the Balinese, Sasak and Sumbawa languages, spoken on islands east of Jawa. It is a little less closely related to Madurese and to Sundanese, and even less closely or distantly related to other Austronesian languages. So if there are Malaysian who do not know that the Malay language is Austronesian, it is just ignorance.

[@ferrykurniawan1919]

Sama.. saudara juga ada yg nikah sama orang malaysia pernah ketemu ngobrol2 malah gak nyambung dan bingung akhirnya diem2an deh. Eh gak taunya saudara bilang dia bisa bhs inggris akhirnya ngobrolnya pake inggris wkwkwk

[@ronzac55]

@@Ali_art yes, same with Indonesian

[@bucek2247]

Pengguna bahasa di malaysia terbagi 3 yaitu bahasa melayu, mandarin dan tamil. Dan mereka menggunakan bahasa inggris sebagai bahasa umum untuk berkomunikasi. Sedangkan di Indonesia kami menggunakan 1 bahasa yaitu bahasa Indonesia, bukan bahasa inggris atau belanda. Lalu bahasa indonesia diklaim sebagai bahasa melayu, NO WAY. Karena bahasa Indonesia sangat berbeda dengan malaysia

[@sonnymak6707]

Kalau tak tahu situasi di Malaysia mohon hindar dari membuat andaian yang tak tepat.

[@intrickchannel7705]

​@@sonnymak6707andaian tak tepat? Undang² di malaysia pakai bahasa melayu atau bahasa inggris? Cina, tamil, bangla, india bercakap sesama mereka MOSTLY pakai bahasa apa? Bahasa melayu NO

[@sonnymak6707]

@@intrickchannel7705 Seandainya Bahasa Indonesia bukan Bahasa Melayu mengapa Saudara mengerti tulisan saya ?

[@intrickchannel7705]

@@sonnymak6707 Bahasa Indonesia jauh beda dengan bahasa melayu kalian malaysia, karena banyak kata yang "TIDAK LAZIM" digunakan di Indonesia begitu juga sebaliknya, tidak bisa dikatakan "SAMA" karena pengucapan dan ejaan sudah berbeda, tulisan dan ucapan dalam Bahasa Indonesia itu jelas A dibaca A bukan E, bunyi R jelas bukan samar, kata serapan banyak diambil dari bahasa daerah/suku² di Indonesia, kami bisa berkomunikasi dengan menggunakan Bahasa Indonesia dengan beda suku, dalam pembelajaran menggunakan Bahasa Indonesia, Media Televisi, Berita, Pemerintahan, Undang-Undang semua memggunakan Bahasa Indonesia

[@bonnieculla6210]

​@@sonnymak6707ANOTHER SMENNJENK ABSRD TERM "MEMBUAT ANDAIAN" BRUAKAKAKAKAK. ABSRD KEK GITU MASIH MAKSA NYAMAIN BM ANEH LU ITU DG BAHASA INDONESIA YG SUPERIOR 🤪😜😜😜

[@Mantoel33]

MIRIP bukan berarti SAMA . .!!! Bahasa INDONESIA yah bahasa indonesia. .!!! Sedangkan Malaysia menggunakan bahasa Melayu BAHASA DARI SUKU MELAYU . .!!!

[@KhomAsian]

Basically, Malay and Indonesian are one Malay language origin, and from time to time with exposing to other languages and context, they have different in word use, accent... Indonesia is known for linguistic diverse.

[@polyglotdreams]

Yes...I mentioned that in the video

[@GraculaReligiosa-404.b]

320 Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuijsen" is a Dutchman who was born in Solok, West Sumatra and mixed with the natives, interested in various Indonsian cultures, especially Minang/Malay, so he summarized the origins of the Indonsian language from the two great traditional figures of Minang Kabau "Tengku Nawawi with the title "Sutan Makmur" and Muhammad Taib with the title "Sutan Ibrahim" and the Dutch legalized/officialized the first spelling of Van Ophuijsen's version of 'Malay Language' as an intermediary language between colonialists and natives and in 1972 the Indonsian and Malaysian parties compromised on improving the Malay language for these two countries, EYD(Improved spelling) was used until now. Meanwhile, the language used by Indonsia from the colonial period until the 1901-1947 struggle and when the proclamation was read was the van Ophuijsen version of the spelling language. - The Malay tribe is one of the sub tribe of the Minang Kabau tribe, the spread of this Malay tribe is from Central Sumatra, the Malay Peninsula, west and north Borneo to southwest Philippines. - If the Malay language was not patented by Ophuijsen into the 'Alphabet' letters/characters, then it is very likely that Indonsian now uses Arabic (Jawi) letters/characters. Ophuijsen Spelling (1901) Republic Spelling or Soewandi Spelling (1947-1956) Spelling Reform (1956-1961) Melindo Spelling (1961-1967) New Spelling/Language and Literature Institute (LBK) (1967-1972) Improved Spelling (EYD) (1972-2015) General Guidelines for Indonsian Spelling (PUEBI) (2015-2022) Improved Indonsian Spelling (EYD)(2022) How could the Malay language become extinct, instead it is the Malay people of Malaysia who maintain the ancient/old Malay language. Meanwhile, the Malay language in Indonsia was changed and upgraded to become Indonsian. - This means that Indonsia is the one who destroyed/stole the Malay language. why do thieves shout thieves? Stup1d javqnese.. The bull symbol in the logo of the PD1P party (Indonsian Democratic Party of Struggle) is taken/copied from "Parta1 Nasional Indonesia1a", which also comes from "Perhimpunan Indonsia" which also comes from "Indische Vereen1ging" a social organization of Indonsian indigenous students founded by "Rajiun Harahap" (titled Sutan kasajangan soripada) with other friends in the Netherlands in 1908. - while Rajiun Harahap was once a student and teaching assistant of "Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuysen". Because of the great influence of Minang Kabau/Malay customs/culture on Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuyen, it also influenced the mindset of "Rajiun harahap" as his student, thus making the logo/symbol of the indigenous student organization 'Indische Vereeniging' become "Red and white buffalo head ". (Moreover, M.Hatta once served as the longest serving chairman of an Indonsian association) - then the symbol of the Indonsian National Party, was distorted/blended by Karno to become the head of a bull, and that is the logo of the party of Karno's descendants (the Megawat1) now. The 'Garuda' symbol, only became available after the formation of the 'State Badge Committee' on January 10 1950, which was regulated directly by the coordinating metric Sultan Hamid, there were 2 types of designs, namely from Muhammad Yamin and Sultan Hamid II, the two of which were combined to perfect each other, becoming the Garuda. - again and again, apart from the youth oath and the five principles initiated by Muhammad Yamin, the Garuda national emblem also involves Minang people and Sutan Hamid II, a Malay person as well, (Malays are one of the Minangkabau tribes). - Once again, javqnese just giving up his name, giving up fame, giving up his life, then betraying the nation and state. - What would you like to be proud of? There is no contribution other than being a sycophant and traitor. - It's so stupid that the 'buffalo fight' was lost to the Pagaruyung kingdom, pretending to claim to control the archipelago too. The meaning of the 'Minang kabau' word is winning buffalo. So there is nothing to be proud of from the Javq tribe, then they gained fame in the Minang civilization, type in Google: "keaslian prasasti adityawarman", open the Indonsian geogrqphic nationql site, there is a statement by a prof. Arlo who admits that it is only a one-sided claim based on assumptions High level fantasies link Adityawarman with the kingdom of Jawq Majqpahit. Even though there is no supporting evidence, this claim has easily entered Indonsian national history, and ordinary people (Javq stup1d) immediately believe it without finding out the valid data. It is increasingly proven and revealed that the disgrace of the Javq tribe is trying to dismantle history and distort the facts. (This is not much). Traitors to the nation pretend to be calling the 'nkri harga mati' (The unity of the country is non-negotiable) - This jealousy has been maintained from generation to generation by generations of the Javq tribe until now. If Javq were told to create their own country the size of Javq Island and create their own ideology, they would not be able to because human resources are low and natural resources are poor. (Try looking at the 'United Republic of Indonnsia' map on Google) They have no identity/no self-respect, they just want to gain name/fame, hang around for a living, occupy positions/seize power that the Malay heroes have struggled to form/establish. Seize the natural resources of other tribes' land and go on a spree on the suffering of the people. The proof is that in Papua there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg) but its people live in the poorest province in Indonsia, even though the regional budget is the 5th highest in Indonsia.

[@bonnieculla6210]

EEEWWW NOT ONE ORIGIN. SINCE WHEN INDONESIAN SPELLED "AYAM" AS "EIWAYEIEM"???? 🤪🤪🤪🤪

[@NasyaEgi]

Gio👍 Historical factual data directly from trusted sources on official state institutional websites, who can argue with that? (DPR/People's Representative Council, Ministry of Education and Culture/kemendikbud, BPS/Central Statistics Agency, Indonesian National Geographic, etc.).

[@NasyaEgi]

005 Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuijsen" is a Dutchman who was born in Solok, West Sumatra and mixed with the natives, interested in various Indonsian cultures, especially Minang/Malay, so he summarized the origins of the Indonsian language from the two great traditional figures of Minang Kabau "Tengku Nawawi with the title "Sutan Makmur" and Muhammad Taib with the title "Sutan Ibrahim" and the Dutch legalized/officialized the first spelling of Van Ophuijsen's version of 'Malay Language' as an intermediary language between colonialists and natives and in 1972 the Indonsian and Malaysian parties compromised on improving the Malay language for these two countries, EYD(Improved spelling) was used until now. Meanwhile, the language used by Indonsia from the colonial period until the 1901-1947 struggle and when the proclamation was read was the van Ophuijsen version of the spelling language. - The Malay tribe is one of the sub tribe of the Minang Kabau tribe, the spread of this Malay tribe is from Central Sumatra, the Malay Peninsula, west and north Borneo to southwest Philippines. - If the Malay language was not patented by Ophuijsen into the 'Alphabet' letters/characters, then it is very likely that Indonsian now uses Arabic (Jawi) letters/characters. Ophuijsen Spelling (1901) Republic Spelling or Soewandi Spelling (1947-1956) Spelling Reform (1956-1961) Melindo Spelling (1961-1967) New Spelling/Language and Literature Institute (LBK) (1967-1972) Improved Spelling (EYD) (1972-2015) General Guidelines for Indonsian Spelling (PUEBI) (2015-2022) Improved Indonsian Spelling (EYD)(2022) How could the Malay language become extinct, instead it is the Malay people of Malaysia who maintain the ancient/old Malay language. Meanwhile, the Malay language in Indonsia was changed and upgraded to become Indonsian. - This means that Indonsia is the one who destroyed/stole the Malay language. why do thieves shout thieves? Stup1d javqnese.. The bull symbol in the logo of the PD1P party (Indonsian Democratic Party of Struggle) is taken/copied from "Parta1 Nasional Indonesia1a", which also comes from "Perhimpunan Indonsia" which also comes from "Indische Vereen1ging" a social organization of Indonsian indigenous students founded by "Rajiun Harahap" (titled Sutan kasajangan soripada) with other friends in the Netherlands in 1908. - while Rajiun Harahap was once a student and teaching assistant of "Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuysen". Because of the great influence of Minang Kabau/Malay customs/culture on Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuyen, it also influenced the mindset of "Rajiun harahap" as his student, thus making the logo/symbol of the indigenous student organization 'Indische Vereeniging' become "Red and white buffalo head ". (Moreover, M.Hatta once served as the longest serving chairman of an Indonsian association) - then the symbol of the Indonsian National Party, was distorted/blended by Karno to become the head of a bull, and that is the logo of the party of Karno's descendants (the Megawat1) now. The 'Garuda' symbol, only became available after the formation of the 'State Badge Committee' on January 10 1950, which was regulated directly by the coordinating metric Sultan Hamid, there were 2 types of designs, namely from Muhammad Yamin and Sultan Hamid II, the two of which were combined to perfect each other, becoming the Garuda. - again and again, apart from the youth oath and the five principles initiated by Muhammad Yamin, the Garuda national emblem also involves Minang people and Sutan Hamid II, a Malay person as well, (Malays are one of the Minangkabau tribes). - Once again, javqnese just giving up his name, giving up fame, giving up his life, then betraying the nation and state. - What would you like to be proud of? There is no contribution other than being a sycophant and traitor. - It's so stupid that the 'buffalo fight' was lost to the Pagaruyung kingdom, pretending to claim to control the archipelago too. The meaning of the 'Minang kabau' word is winning buffalo. So there is nothing to be proud of from the Javq tribe, then they gained fame in the Minang civilization, type in Google: "keaslian prasasti adityawarman", open the Indonsian geogrqphic nationql site, there is a statement by a prof. Arlo who admits that it is only a one-sided claim based on assumptions High level fantasies link Adityawarman with the kingdom of Javq (Majqpahit). Even though there is no supporting evidence, this claim has easily entered Indonsian national history, and ordinary people (Javq stup1d) immediately believe it without finding out the valid data. It is increasingly proven and revealed that the disgrace of the Javq tribe is trying to dismantle history and distort the facts. (This is not much). Traitors to the nation pretend to be calling the 'nkri harga mati' (The unity of the country is non-negotiable) - This jealousy has been maintained from generation to generation by generations of the Javq tribe until now. If Javq were told to create their own country the size of Javq Island and create their own ideology, they would not be able to because human resources are low and natural resources are poor. (Try looking at the 'United Republic of Indonnsia' map on Google) They have no identity/no self-respect, they just want to gain name/fame, hang around for a living, occupy positions/seize power that the Malay heroes have struggled to form/establish. Seize the natural resources of other tribes' land and go on a spree on the suffering of the people. The proof is that in Papua there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg) but its people live in the poorest province in Indonsia, even though the regional budget is the 5th highest in Indonsia.

[@zenneszennes4143]

i am from west sumatera but grow up in west borneo, when malaysian talking I can understand 70% what they said but if I read malaysian newspaper it's so hard to understood, malaysian language is like melayu( some places at sumatera and west borneo) dialect in Indonesia..

[@zammerzaini4191]

Malaysian language is Bahasa Melayu my friend 😆.. even Bahasa Indonesia is based on Bahasa Melayu. Nevertheless I respect bahasa Indonesia as more poetic than Bahasa Melayu.. Bahasa Indonesia sound.. beautiful..

[@parmentier7457]

In the Netherlands, the Indonesian diaspora speaks Creole Malay. When the Indonesian diaspora came to the Netherlands in 1950, Bahasa Indonesia did not yet exist. In the Netherlands we say 'Maleis' (Malay). But this is sometimes confusing for the native Dutch because they then think of the country Malaysia? Then there is the large Moluccan community that also speaks Creole Malay, but which is closer to Malaysian Malay. Then there is a Javanese-Surinamese community. They are often confused with Indonesians, but they say that they are not Indonesians, but Javanese and that they only speak Javanese. This is also confusing for native Dutch people because present-day Java is in Indonesia and they think that the Javanese-Surinamese are Indonesians.

[@HerryNovri]

Indonesian language has been born into this world in 1928. Before that, it is called Malay Language in Netherlands Indie. Yes, especially for Indonesians it is considered as two different languages, but to be honest, you can not put on your CV that you speak the 2 languages. If you said you are fluent in 3 languages and those languages are Engish, Indonesian and Malay, then everyone will laugh. There is no "Malay course" in Indonesia, and there is also no "Indonesian course" in Malaysia. In this whole video all red text are recognizable at least for Indonesians. The meaning is almost the same. The origin is the same, except for parti and pesta. Parti from English and pesta from Portuguese. But, parti is also popular in every day languange in Indonesia, it is just not official. Then tanggal and tarikh. Indonesian know tarikh from Arabic, but instead of using it as "date" we use it as "calendar". The more official word for "calendar" is "penanggalan" which is pe + tanggal + an. So it is not correct that Indonesian only understand 70-80 % of Malay, it should be 95% or more. Strange words yes, but it is also Indonesian words. Malay and Indonesia is more like American English vs British English instead of Dutch vs German or Portuguese vs Spanish. I can say, Indonesian is Standard Malay Language in Indonesia, that for historical and ideological reason was renamed in 1928.

[@polyglotdreams]

Yes.. .

[@abdulwahidmdtahir3660]

It is like "English" in UK / Britain, in USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. They all speak English. They don't speak American, Canadian, Australian or New Zealander. Of course there are differences in term of slang, accent and a few words. Like (British English/ American English): lift / elevator, biscuit / cookie, ground floor / first floor, chips / french fries, maize / corn, flat / apartment, holiday / vacation, timetable / schedule, aeroplane / airplane, postbox / mailbox, jumper / sweater, trousers / pants ..... and many more.

[@kgdangar2]

well said !

[@broiswa7608]

Orang Indonesia hanya paham atau mengerti bahasa Melayu Malaysia hanya 50 persen saja

[@spectatingcheater9943]

@@broiswa7608 Sedangkan anda menulis dengan kata melayu 100% mana Indonesianya.

[@dhenarysdhenarys2397]

My company collaborated with Malaysian companies on several projects and let's be honest.. probably from most of our own experiences it's just easier to communicate with Malaysians using English. In my case, the Malaysian teams that we have worked with are pretty diverse. If we used Malay, first of all, most of our team members are not fluent in Malay language. We only have one team member who speaks Malay fluently. Second of all, the Chinese and Indians on the Malaysian teams understand almost nothing when our team member attempted to communicate using Malay language. Thirdly, well.. the Malaysians teams prefer to speak in English themselves. So, when our team member spoke Malay they responded in English anyway. So our team ended up have to said everything twice (in Malay and in English) before we just basically gave up and just communicated in English.

[@yosichadutawisnuandika5168]

English : room, Indonesia : kamar, malay : bilik. English : car, Indonesia : mobil, malay : kereta. English : horn, Indonesia : klakson, malay : horn. English : crab, Indonesia : kepiting, malay : ketam. English : FAST, Indonesia : cepat, malay : laju. English : government, Indonesia : pemerintah, malay : kerajaan. Dan masih banyak lagi. Jika saat ini bahasa Indonesia disebut sama dengan bahasa melayu, 100% tertolak dan tidak valid, karena saya ketika ke Malaysia memakai bahasa Indonesia, 90% orang Malaysia tau apa yang saya maksud, namun jika orang Malaysia ke Indonesia ( selain Sumatra) dengan bahasa Melayu, 80% akan kebingungan apa maksudnya.

[@Norman_Lazarevich]

As a Bruneian malay just neighbouring Malaysian state of Sarawak and Sabah, our Malay accent is similar to that of Sabahan Malaysian except that Sabahan Malay intonation or tone is more aggressive and loud. On top of that their chosen words when speaking is also quite different. From my experience I can easily understand the Malay spoken in peninsular Malaysia as well as standard/formal Malay except from Northern Malay accent and/or the "Pantai Timur" accent. For Bahasa Indonesia I still can understand it when spoken uhmm formally I guess? Maybe because from what I understand both languages originated from Johor-Riau Malay. However it's so difficult for me to get what Indonesian is saying from the various Indonesian videos I watched on KZbin. Reading comments in Indonesian is even harder to understand as they add syntax on places that I find quite odd like " Sebut'in', Coba'in' " plus with all the Indonesian regional language/dialect they add. What surprised me is that I encountered many times that Indonesian use many English words that they turn into Bahasa Indonesia which I find quite odd because I thought it would be Malay that use more English loan words. One example that I remember is the English word invasion, in Indonesian it would be "invasi" and in Malay it would be "penaklukan" which is completely different than English. Another example is the English word to invest, in Indonesian it would be "menginvestasi" while in Malay it would be "Melabur". I should have noted all the English loan words used in Indonesian because it's just too many. Another comparison is many mathematical terms used in Malay is in Malay language itself while in Indonesian it would be loanwords from English/Latin/Greek. I'm sorry I can't recall what the words are even in Malay language because the Maths curriculum in Brunei is in English medium so I'm not familiar with the Malay terms. However Malaysian maths curriculum is in Malay language. I bought their SPM Maths textbooks from this Malaysian book publisher called PNI Neuron if I remember correctly and they are in Malay and English. I remember many of the Malay terms are in pure Malay and not English loanwords.

[@JahalGyver]

Thats maling teriak maling 😂😂🤣🤣🤣😝😋

[@Norman_Lazarevich]

@@JahalGyver What do you mean?

[@bonnieculla6210]

​@@Norman_LazarevichLAH BAHASA INDONESIA KAN EMANG IS NOT A MERE BM?! KALIAN DOANK YG SELALU MAKSA MLAIUK THIS AND THAT. KALO BAHASA INDONESIA NYERAP BANYAK BAHASA ASING KENAPA EMANG?!!! 😂😂🫵🫵🤣🫵 YG JELAS PEMBAKUAN BAHASA INDONESIA SELALU KONSISTEN UTK SERAPAN ASING PAKAI "SI" SEJAK AWAL". BEDA KEK BM LU YG DULU "SYEN" BERUBAH JADI "SI" KARENA SENGAJA MEMIRIPKAN BM LU ITU DG BAHASA INDONESIA YG SUPERIOR 🤪😜😜🫵

[@erwino_alvarez]

Actually Indonesian use many loan word from Dutch not English, for example the word "Invasi" it comes from Dutch word "Invasie" which is the same in pronunciation

[@bonnieculla6210]

Btw, lu gak pernah buka KAMUS BM lu sendiri ya? Ada kata "INVASI" juga dikamus lu. Dan kalian NIRU itu dari INDONESIA. Karena serapan kalian itu harusnya jadi "INVESYEN" BUKAN "INVASI" 🤪😜😜😝🫵

[@andinurdiah2601]

Alhamdulillah bahasa Indonesia sudah menjadi bahasa resmi unesco ❤

[@aimanmanan7502]

Bahasa Melayu Indonesia

[@andinurdiah2601]

@@aimanmanan7502 bahasa melayu indonesia bahasa daerah

[@chikideliciouz960]

Betul bang bahasa melayu di Indonesia adalah bahasa daerah bukan bahasa negara. Bahasa negara cuma satu Bahasa Indonesia ❤​@@andinurdiah2601

[@sohibbbc1659]

@@aimanmanan7502 orang malon kepanasan.

[@RENDY.FLACME]

​@@aimanmanan7502ko pake bhsa Malingsial ko ?

[@xeezoo0013]

Malay and Indonesian language like Hindi and Urdu or like Swedish and Denise

[@darmawansyahbuyung-6363]

I speak Malay Kalimantan at home as my mother tongue/first language, and use it frequently with friends as well. I speak dayaknese with friends and older dayaknese here in my kampoong. In the kampoong we speak immaculate both Malay and Dayaknese as well as Indonesian. I speak Bahasa Indonesia and English too.

[@andrimaulana2519]

Definitely not the same. Indonesian is fighting for their independents 🇮🇩. Malaysian is begging for their independents🇲🇾.

[@sendolpulut5294]

Ya like sukarno go to japan and begging it,it has the video in youtube 😂

[@andrimaulana2519]

@@sendolpulut5294 show me, the only one I found was that tunku shitman is begging to queen (she is dead now) for freedom and using them as Puppets so the spreading of communism can be stop. The video that you talking about was in the 1945 independent movement lead by soekarno and phew Japanese that want Indonesia to independent. But in 1949 Dutch comeback and try to take over again, so the Indonesian people have no choice and fight back.

[@andrimaulana2519]

@@sendolpulut5294 Then show me, you copypaste country

[@ahmadadam5182]

yup Indonesians fighting with everybody even among themselves for their independence … ask the Ambonese, Moluccans, Acehese, Papuan, Tiongkok, etc etc … millions were raped and killed … you must be proud …

[@bonnieculla6210]

​@@ahmadadam5182 Ya emang PROUD lah. Udah kek gitu pun masih jadi SATU NEGARA dan SATU BANGSA. Gak kek MLESAK diklaim damai tapi BM MLESAK tetap GAK LAKU di non MLAIUK lol

[@meeveryday123]

Every ethnic group in Indonesia has its own language. They have to study Indonesian language for 9 years at school. So we don't have the opportunity to learn Malay language, we immediately learn English.

[@amiryazidali7659]

The question is like asking "Is the American English the same as British English.?"

[@polyglotdreams]

Yet, look at the opposite extreme comments here in which native speakers of Indonesian say they cannot understand Malay... that is hard to fathom for me since I could easily understand Malay with knowledge of Indonesian (later I also studied Malay)

[@amiryazidali7659]

@@polyglotdreams Some Indonesian do not want to put any effort to learn other languages. THEY have their own reasons.😇 However , Malaysians are encouraged from young age to learn other languages other than their mother tongue eg English , Arab.. Hence Malaysians can easily learned and understand Indonesian but not vise versa🫡

[@togarsihombing9219]

​@@amiryazidali7659No wonder your language is funny. Malay, english & arab all together in one sentence 😫

[@bonnieculla6210]

​@@amiryazidali7659WHY WOULD INDONESIAN NEED TO PUT ANY EFFORT TO LEARN NEAR EXTINCT LANGUAGE???? 😂😂😂

[@amiryazidali7659]

@@bonnieculla6210 UNESCO (2023) defines Bahasa Indonesia as a variation of Bahasa Melayu. THUS if bahasa Melayu is near extinct( according to you) then obviously its variarion is also near extinct. THINK BEFORE WRITING .

[@irdhiansyahsafwansiregar4824]

I always said, Malay in Malaysia and Indonesia in Indonesia is quite similar to Urdu-Hindi or Swedish-Norsk-Dansk in term of similarities and differentiations

[@xiraoit9342]

Jangan suka nyama²in lo Regar

[@uzeirgamazsi721]

@@xiraoit9342hahaahah tp ga salah sih dia bro, urdu sm hindi contoh paling mirip sih

[@erison_guci]

​@@xiraoit9342dia tidak salah. Memang benar.

[@VAhhhh98]

Or Batak Toba vs Mandailing

[@xiraoit9342]

@@VAhhhh98 Batak Toba is the original one.

[@denzdriay2155]

Malay is not really used since the most spoken language in Malaysia, brunei and Singapore is English. But in Indonesia, bahasa Indonesia is the only bridge of communication among different ethnicities

[@JonahNineveh]

Bahasa Indonesia is more advanced. It has clear system, It has more and more words than Bahasa Melayu. As long as I know, words from the Dictionary of Bahasa Indonesia (KBBI) even adopted by Bahasa Melayu speaking countries' dictionary. Bahasa Indonesia has bright future with more than 270 millions speakers compared to total sum of active Bahasa Melayu speaker in all over the world.

[@gastonmartinez6316]

I know nothing about these 2 languages so it was really interesting to watch. I'd love to see a video like this about Hindi and Urdu in the future ❤ Thank you for your work! Loving your channel! Greetings from Argentina

[@polyglotdreams]

Thanks sp much... great suggestion.

[@nayokoaji]

Try typing in Google, Malaysia: We Stole Everything from Indonesia

[@MalayanFrog]

so glad people are discovering formal and informal languages 😂

[@twelvehalo2929]

Penduduk MALASYA 🇲🇾 = 33 Juta terdiri : Orang China = 7.5 juta Orang india =2,5 juta = 10juta.= tak kuasai bahasa melayu. Jadi >>>33 -10 = 23 juta yg bisa bahasa melayu.

[@Patriot111able]

Perlu dilihat dari 23 juta populasi yg bisa berbahasa melayu dengan baik dan yang hanya berbahasa rojak

[@BOPENKK]

@@Patriot111able ya betul 👍

[@matthewrajagukguk5406]

@@Patriot111ableapa itu bahasa rojak? Bahasa campur campur?

[@AhmadHisham-rs1yv]

yg tidak pandai hanya 5% atau 7% saja la,di semenanjung Malaysia mereka pakai logat Johor/kebanyakkan yg tidak pandai bahasa melayu orang cina/orang India ada juga/kalau di Sabah Dan Sarawak jarang yg tidak pandai bahasa melayu dengan logat masing2

[@BOPENKK]

@@AhmadHisham-rs1yv Dhong Zhong ketawa ngakak lihat bahasa Rojak MALASIA gak laku aja BANGLASIA hantu bungkus 👻 Makanya jangan heran donK chnl trenpublika sudah membuktikan makanya hohoy yahoy yahut yihaa belajar sejarah di vlog chnl trenpublika 🤭🇲🇾❤️🇧🇩

[@devada785]

Are you sure there are 33 million Malay speakers in Malaysia ? Can all Malaysian citizens speak Malay ?

[@yosichadutawisnuandika5168]

😂😂😂😂 sorry i am laughing 😅

[@ufaalvaro]

😂😂😂

[@orangkalah3567]

😂😂😂 kaum china,india malay mana mau mereka ngomong bahasa melayu..

[@ricosubekti1450]

😂😂😂

[@luarbiasawaras8700]

Indonesian and Malaysia language are similar, understanding each other may be challenging because of different dialect, but if they speak slowly, or write that down or if they are singing, they will instantly understand each other.

[@bomba7197]

as an indonesian student who goes back and forth from kl to jakarta almost monthly, i would actually quite disagree in calling the two as different language, sometimes when I go back home I tend to "forgot" to switch the language because it is almost like there is no switching to begin with, the only thing i switch is accent and slangs.. yes there are some differences like "sulit" for "rahasia" but in that regards it is not really a problem, and if the minor differences are enough to make them to separate languages then what about arabic? morrocans can hardly have a conversation with iraqis even though they are both arabic speakers... in this case indonesians and malaysians can understand each other better than most arabic speaking countries in west africa to asia. i believe the only reason it is considered a different language is not linguistic but rather politics and national pride. neither indonesians or malaysians would like to admit it. indonesian doesnt want to admit that indonesian derived from malay which might bring the connotation of being from malaysia, while malaysians doesnt want to admit that malay comes from sumatra which then tied the 2 dialect of indonesian and malaysian together. if indonesian and malaysian are different language, then i will make a petition that modern standard arabic are different than the dialects in arabia, mesoptamia, egypt, and west africa 😂😂

[@grazzhood71]

Your example of Arabic language and dialects is spot on. Bagus

[@odeychan9014]

actually the Malays are smart enough we know there are descendants from Indonesia in Malaysia but not ALL comes from Indonesia wth 😂 the Indonesians logic thinking are even more funnier like everytime we mention about Malay they get defensive saying its not from Malaysia Their way of thinking Malay = Malaysia so its quite hard to teach them

[@bomba7197]

@@odeychan9014 ???? in which paragraph did I make such claims, starting your sentence with "smart" but not being smart is funny

[@odeychan9014]

@@bomba7197 I'm commenting in general based on the comments I kept reading from Indonesians 😅

[@agussw8908]

As Indonesian Javanese i can understand 100% Malay language because Upin Ipin cartoon TV program.

[@hurindturambar]

It is in fact the same language

[@bonnieculla6210]

Sejak kapan ada BAHASA SAMA yg pake alfabet yg BEDA TOTAL???!! 🤪🤪😂😁😁🥴🫵

[@hurindturambar]

@@bonnieculla6210 di jawa ada yg pakai abjad arab pegon, ada yg pakai aksara jawa, sekarang ada pakai alphabet latin, apakah bahasa jawa itu berbeda beda tergantung penggunaan sistem tulisannya?

[@hurindturambar]

@@bonnieculla6210 di jawa ada yg pakai abjad arab pegon, ada yg pakai aksara jawa, sekarang ada pakai alphabet latin, apakah bahasa jawa itu berbeda beda tergantung penggunaan sistem tulisannya?

[@bonnieculla6210]

@@hurindturambar YA EMANG BEDA!!! GATAU YA?!!! BAHASA JAWA MAJAPAHIT EMANG BEDA JAUH AMA BAHASA JAWA ERA MATARAM ISLAM!!! 😂😁😁🥴🫵

[@bonnieculla6210]

@@hurindturambar MAKANYA BAHASA INDONESIA SELAMANYA GAK AKAN PERNAH SUDI DISAMAKAN DG BM MLESAK KMPNK ABSRD ITU LOL

[@sudrazat8770]

As Javanese person, when i watching malaysian content in sosial media. I can still understand over 90 persen what they talking about. But the accent is pretty much different. For they who live in Sumatra or Borneo Island have more similar accent to malaysia i reckon.

[@nomad_ape]

That’s correct, and that 90% is more than enough to communicate. I would say it is similar to the case of British English and American English; each language has its own accent and a few different words.

[@kilanspeaks]

Sumatrans who live near the Peninsula would have similar accents to theirs, but people of Sabah and Sarawak have their own accents as well which are similar to ours. I say “ours” because I’m from the Indonesian side of Borneo and every time I speak in Bahasa Malaysia in Kuala Lumpur they’d assume that I came from Sabah 😁

[@GraculaReligiosa-404.b]

003 Long before the Republic of Indonsia was founded in the 20th century, Malay civilization existed in the 5th century in Minanga and had spread beyond the territory of Indonsia. That's why there is rendang in Malaysia because there is the Minang kingdom in "Negri Sembilan", and many Malay kings outside Indonesia are descended from the Pagaruyung/Minang kingdom of West Sumatra, the Malay tribe is one of the subtribe of the Minangkabau tribe. The Minang (Malay) people are the most influential tribe in Southeast Asia. The proof is: - The first king of Brunei Darussalam "Awang Alak Betatar/Muhammad Shah" and "Hasanal Bolkiah" were Minang people who succeeded in establishing their own country and were able to prosper their people with free taxes, education, health, their flag was black/yellow/red like "Marawa" Minangkabau/Pagaruyung kingdom. - The first king of Malaysia, "Tuanku Abdul Rahman" was a Minang man who was able to advance his country to defeat Indonsia, which was led by Javqnese people. After 77 years of independence, he had only just started basic projects outside the island of Java. - The first president of Singapore "Yusof Ishak" was also Minang. - Even the king in the Sulu kingdom in the Philippines "Sulayman" was Minang too. 3 founding figures of 3 religious organizations in Indonsia, learned from Shaykh Ahmad Khathib Al-Minangkabawi Rahimahullah THIS IS A FACT, everyone can prove it is true, type in Google: "Father of the Republic of Indonsia" is a Javqnese person? "Originally in Indonsian" open kemendikbud website, is it from Javqnese? - 90% of the Indonsian language comes from the Malay language whose spelling was perfected, and the founding heroes of the Republic of Indonsia were also mostly Minang (Malay), M.Hatta was the leader of the Indonsian delegation at the round table which made Indonsia de facto independent from the Netherlands. In his book (rowing between 2 rocks) contains the concept of free, active/non-aligned politics and his friend Nehru proposed it internationally. It was M.Hatta who formulated the text of the proclamation, Sikarno was only a writer and reader, even elementary school children could do it. - Legislative, Executive, Judicial is a large-scale implementation of the Minangkabau customary government system (Tungku tigo sajarangan) - 3 of the 4 founding fathers "founders of the Republic of Indonsia" were Minang/Malay, (Tan Malaka, Mohammad Hatta, Sutan Sjahrir and Sikarno), their statues are on tanah datar, West Sumatra was inaugurated by the DPR (Regional Representatives Council). Sikarno, a representative of the Javq tribe/island, his only ability was talking bullshit, a power-hungry dictator, a collector of wealth and a collection of wives, search on KZbin: "Sukarn0: jadi islam jangan jadi arab", what does that mean by being racist? - Sikarno was afraid that Indonsia would become an Islamic country, coincidentally the Malays were the ones who were the most religious, intellectual and had a strong sense of identity, so that Sikarno frantically felt that he was being competed/hindered in achieving his ambition to become president of Indonsia for the rest of his life, with a communist dictatorship system that had a secular/liberal social character. - that's why he carried out 1001 tricks to further his ambitions, he tried to weaken the influence of other tribes in Indonsia (especially his hatred of the Malay civilization) - Sikarno was jealous when he saw that the Malays had succeeded in establishing their own country in the land of their ancestors (Malaysia), he incited the Indonsian people to destroy Malaysia, because he had not achieved his wish to control the land of Malacca, Sikarno vented his frustration with the genocide of the Minang/Malay ethnic group in Central Sumatra on the grounds of the PRRI rebellion, even though that was just a complaint from the people because they were treated unfairly by Sikarno's system of government, centralizing the javq island focus only, Central Sumatra was broken up into smaller ones, an ignorant Javq person was made governor of that region, of course he was incompetent because he didn't understand the local culture. - Even though previously Sikarno studied politics and religion from many Malay people, after independence he actually betrayed the genocide of the (Malay) heroes. Tan Malaka (father of the Republic of Indonsia) was killed by Sikarno's orders, because he was afraid that Indonsia's leadership would fall into the hands of Malay people, barbaric Javq. Sikarno once said "a great nation is a nation that does not forget the services of its heroes and history." He himself and Harto were the ones who recorded the embarrassing history of "a great disgrace for Indonsia" (the enemy under cover). - Holding office is incompetent, like a brat who doesn't know political etiquette/ethics, simply violates the applicable constitution, SHOULD after 2 terms (5 years, 2 terms) resign like M.Hatta and hold an election (how come he served 22 years and Harto served 32 year?), Sikarno abolished the 1945 law with the concept of "guided democracy", so that his dictatorship would be free, he dissolved the official legislative institution of the DPR, disbanded the cleric party (Masyumi), unilaterally created the 5th armed group from civilians/farmers/laborers as a competitor to national army which had not sided with Sikarno, the generals who had different opinions (witnesses to his rot) were killed in the lubang buaya (G30spk1), - Siharto continued the dictatorship of Sikarno, with 1001 tricks to change the historical story through media and education, pitting people against each other into conflict so that the government had an excuse to genocide non-Javq ethnic groups under the guise of eradicating rebels. - Indonsia is just as old as corn and is pretending to be colonizing other people's land (in the "Timor Gap" agreement, Siharto and Asutralia conspired to colonize/thief Greater Sunrice Timor Leste's oil). Sikarno slave of Nikita Khrushchev (PK1/unisoviet) Siharto is a slave to Ronald Reagan (capitalist/western) Sijoko slave Xi jin ping (komun1s/ch1na) Whatever the course, as long as a Javq person becomes president of Indonsia, he will always be a slave. Search on YuTube: "Luhut: suku non-Jawq mustahil jadi presiden", this is the minister itself which says 'Indonsian democracy is not neutral', from the start the laws have been dismantled by the Javq tribe, the oligarchs descended from Karno/Harto have blocked the steps of the non-Javq tribe to entered the top of politics. - In order to dominate politics, the Javq tribe used the military to reduce the population of non-Javq tribes, brutally massacred thousands of common people, tortured, confiscated, raped (the number of victims exceeded the victims of the war against foreign invaders) and then the entire javqnese diaspora seized indigenous land and distributed it to Javanese people. under the guise of transm1gration. Now there are almost 50% of the tadpole tribe in Indonsia, if there are 3 candidates in the election, the Javq candidate will definitely win, because 50% of the vote will only be for 1 Javq candidate. - The name is "a democratic country" in fact "Social justice and prosperity for ALL Indonsian people" is just a dream, 53 years of independence only led by 2 dictators, even then there has been no significant progress, instead it is full of conflict and economic crisis, the president is busy thinking about wealth ,throne,woman. Lowly worldly slave. After resigning from vice president, Muhammad Hatta only became a teacher, he was not crazy about his position and did not carry any wealth. Malay people are dignified, civilized, intellectual and have self-respect. The motto of the Minangkabau tribe is in accordance with Islamic monotheism "Customary based on Shari'a, Shari'a based on the Al-Qur'an", the first principle "Belief in one and only God" is the result of Hatta's thinking, while the principle of the Javq representative is "family" even though it is talking about the state/national scope, it looks stupid. Sikarno also acknowledged the intellectuality of Minang/Malay people, he said: "Think like Minang people, talk like Batak people, work like Javqnese people" - Javqnese is just a worker/slave, it's no wonder he's incompetent as a leader. In the world population review, the income of Indonsian citizens under $10 = Rp. 155 thousand per day is around 79% or the equivalent of 219 million people out of a total population of 278 million people, while the income of Malaysia below that is not recorded. The IQ of javqnese citizens is below average, only 78, while Malays is 87. INDON IS A RACIST COUNTRY "Racial equality" is only at 37, Malay 48. On Wik1ped1a, Malaysia is the 19th most peaceful country in the world, while Indonsia is at number 53. Type on KZbin: "Papua barters noodles" even though there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg), while the most corrupt provinces in Indonsia are Javq provinces, the state budget is used up for stalled projects, type on Google: - deviation from guided democracy - the number of Karno's wives and assets - The highest criminal province in Indonsia - the province with the most cases of children in Indonsia - the most divorced province in Indonsia - sesqjen(kejqwen)/rice throwing culture in ngqwi Well, you know.. the factual data records UP TO THIS SECOND that the Javqnese are low class, traitors to the nation, greedy/covetous, barbarians (riots of football supporters, criminal gangs, bullying, boys who block trucks/squatting IQ, crotch brains, hundreds of schoolgirls who are pregnant out of wedlock, divorced mostly, the culture of shirk kjawen doesn't pray, primitive) all the bad ones javqnese are kings, Javq is a crisis of manners/morals/ethics. it's appropriate for there to be conflict in other people's countries, samp1t, sambqs, pos0, etc. This is the reason why Indonsia is lagging behind.

[@GraculaReligiosa-404.b]

004 Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuijsen" is a Dutchman who was born in Solok, West Sumatra and mixed with the natives, interested in various Indonsian cultures, especially Minang/Malay, so he summarized the origins of the Indonsian language from the two great traditional figures of Minang Kabau "Tengku Nawawi with the title "Sutan Makmur" and Muhammad Taib with the title "Sutan Ibrahim" and the Dutch legalized/officialized the first spelling of Van Ophuijsen's version of 'Malay Language' as an intermediary language between colonialists and natives and in 1972 the Indonsian and Malaysian parties compromised on improving the Malay language for these two countries, EYD(Improved spelling) was used until now. Meanwhile, the language used by Indonsia from the colonial period until the 1901-1947 struggle and when the proclamation was read was the van Ophuijsen version of the spelling language. - The Malay tribe is one of the sub tribe of the Minang Kabau tribe, the spread of this Malay tribe is from Central Sumatra, the Malay Peninsula, west and north Borneo to southwest Philippines. - If the Malay language was not patented by Ophuijsen into the 'Alphabet' letters/characters, then it is very likely that Indonsian now uses Arabic (Jawi) letters/characters. Ophuijsen Spelling (1901) Republic Spelling or Soewandi Spelling (1947-1956) Spelling Reform (1956-1961) Melindo Spelling (1961-1967) New Spelling/Language and Literature Institute (LBK) (1967-1972) Improved Spelling (EYD) (1972-2015) General Guidelines for Indonsian Spelling (PUEBI) (2015-2022) Improved Indonsian Spelling (EYD)(2022) How could the Malay language become extinct, instead it is the Malay people of Malaysia who maintain the ancient/old Malay language. Meanwhile, the Malay language in Indonsia was changed and upgraded to become Indonsian. - This means that Indonsia is the one who destroyed/stole the Malay language. why do thieves shout thieves? Stup1d javqnese.. The bull symbol in the logo of the PD1P party (Indonsian Democratic Party of Struggle) is taken/copied from "Parta1 Nasional Indonesia1a", which also comes from "Perhimpunan Indonsia" which also comes from "Indische Vereen1ging" a social organization of Indonsian indigenous students founded by "Rajiun Harahap" (titled Sutan kasajangan soripada) with other friends in the Netherlands in 1908. - while Rajiun Harahap was once a student and teaching assistant of "Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuysen". Because of the great influence of Minang Kabau/Malay customs/culture on Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuyen, it also influenced the mindset of "Rajiun harahap" as his student, thus making the logo/symbol of the indigenous student organization 'Indische Vereeniging' become "Red and white buffalo head ". (Moreover, M.Hatta once served as the longest serving chairman of an Indonsian association) - then the symbol of the Indonsian National Party, was distorted/blended by Karno to become the head of a bull, and that is the logo of the party of Karno's descendants (the Megawat1) now. The 'Garuda' symbol, only became available after the formation of the 'State Badge Committee' on January 10 1950, which was regulated directly by the coordinating metric Sultan Hamid, there were 2 types of designs, namely from Muhammad Yamin and Sultan Hamid II, the two of which were combined to perfect each other, becoming the Garuda. - again and again, apart from the youth oath and the five principles initiated by Muhammad Yamin, the Garuda national emblem also involves Minang people and Sutan Hamid II, a Malay person as well, (Malays are one of the Minangkabau tribes). - Once again, javqnese just giving up his name, giving up fame, giving up his life, then betraying the nation and state. - What would you like to be proud of? There is no contribution other than being a sycophant and traitor. - It's so stupid that the 'buffalo fight' was lost to the Pagaruyung kingdom, pretending to claim to control the archipelago too. The meaning of the 'Minang kabau' word is winning buffalo. So there is nothing to be proud of from the Javq tribe, then they gained fame in the Minang civilization, type in Google: "keaslian prasasti adityawarman", open the Indonsian geogrqphic nationql site, there is a statement by a prof. Arlo who admits that it is only a one-sided claim based on assumptions High level fantasies link Adityawarman with the kingdom of Javq (Majqpahit). Even though there is no supporting evidence, this claim has easily entered Indonsian national history, and ordinary people (Javq stup1d) immediately believe it without finding out the valid data. It is increasingly proven and revealed that the disgrace of the Javq tribe is trying to dismantle history and distort the facts. (This is not much). Traitors to the nation pretend to be calling the 'nkri harga mati' (The unity of the country is non-negotiable) - This jealousy has been maintained from generation to generation by generations of the Javq tribe until now. If Javq were told to create their own country the size of Javq Island and create their own ideology, they would not be able to because human resources are low and natural resources are poor. (Try looking at the 'United Republic of Indonnsia' map on Google) They have no identity/no self-respect, they just want to gain name/fame, hang around for a living, occupy positions/seize power that the Malay heroes have struggled to form/establish. Seize the natural resources of other tribes' land and go on a spree on the suffering of the people. The proof is that in Papua there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg) but its people live in the poorest province in Indonsia, even though the regional budget is the 5th highest in Indonsia.

[@nomad_ape]

@@GraculaReligiosa-404.b no one is going to read your essay. go spam somewhere else.

[@abangjago8867]

FAKTA UNIK Apakah anda tahu bahwa nama negara malaysia mungkin mengikut indonesia tetapi salah dalam kaidah? biar saya jelaskan indonesia = indo+nesos+ia ✔ malaysia= malay+S+ia ❌ lalu bagaimana dengan tunisia, andalusia, micronesia? tunisia = tunis+ia ✔ andalusia = andalus+ia ✔ micronesia = micro+nesos+ia ✔ lalu apakah penambahan "S" merupakan bentuk jamak? tentu saja tidak, bahwasanya nama negara memang mewakili seluruh bangsanya yang jamak. contoh: croatia = croat+ia bukan croatsia albania = alban+ia bukan albansia

[@JavaCoffee-n9y]

Tepat sekali Bang.

[@blackkittyyt]

Dulu nama Malaysia itu Malaya sebelum Singapura keluar dari Malaya. Setelah itu Malaya ganti nama jadi Malaysia, tapi asal-usulnya gue bingung juga, gak jelas siapa penemunya, gimana penggunaan awal, gimana populernya, apa artinya. Yang jelas tuh Malaysia baru ganti nama tahun 1963. Indonesia sendiri diambil dari bahasa Sansekerta, ada akhiran mirip "sia" dari nama-nama kayak Persia atau Rusia. Beberapa ahli bilang akhiran "sia" mungkin terinspirasi dari bahasa Yunani Kuno. Kata India berasal dari kata Yunani Indos. Kata nesos dalam bahasa Yunani artinya pulau. Jadi Indonesia dapat diartikan sebagai tanah air kepulauan atau negeri pulau-pulau. Nama Indonesia pertama kali muncul pertengahan abad ke-19 dari majalah di Singapura, diciptain sama James Richardson Logan dan George Samuel Windsor Earl, terinspirasi dari kata India. Jadi Indonesia berarti tanah air orang-orang India, tapi lebih merujuk ke wilayah Nusantara. Istilah ini dipopulerin Adolf Bastian dari Jerman, dan dipake luas di awal abad ke-20. Gue agak kesel, nama Malaysia dan Indonesia ini kan mirip-mirip ya sering banget orang dari luar negeri salah sebutnya/kebalik-balik

[@odeychan9014]

@@blackkittyyt sia tu bahasa dari Greek bermaksud tanah.. jadi Malay-sia bermaksud Tanah Melayu, org indon ni memang ada main character syndrom ke apa 😂 semua fikir ikut cara dia

[@FarisTVChannel]

orang Indonesia hanya faham bahasa Malaysia 20% orang Malaysia boleh faham bahasa Indonesia 90%

[@shaungordon9737]

The biggest difference in pronunciation is that malays pronounce R like in English, and indonesian rolls the R like Spanish

[@karawethan]

Another is that the closer you get to Kuala Lumpur (and this is true of Indonesians living on Sumatra), there is a vowel shift where people reduce the normal "a" sound to "ə" (schwa).

[@aurangzeb_art]

Hi, apart from borrowing words from the languages ​​you mentioned earlier, Indonesian has also absorbed a lot of Arabic vocabulary

[@polyglotdreams]

Not as much as Malay

[@pgig2892]

Bahasa malaysia adalah bahasa lokal (daerah) Indonesia

[@nok7411]

Which part of indonesia?

[@ferrykurniawan1919]

@@nok7411 riau

[@belalang3024]

Tidak ada yang namanya bahasa malaysia di malaysia..cuma bahasa melayu.Bahasa itu milik bangsa bukan milik negara tapi mana2 negara bebas menggunakannya.

[@clementluqman9761]

​@@belalang3024byk bahlol dan bladigol sood di negara Konoha... negara kaki klaim...😅😅😅

[@lindasafira2326]

​@@ferrykurniawan1919exactly 👍👍

[@nayokoaji]

Try typing in Google, Malaysia: We Stole Everything from Indonesia

[@asyfer729]

Bila orang bodoh berkata-kata sedang bahasa kamu tu pun ambil dari pelita bahasa melayu.

[@DekritGampamole]

Fun fact: Majority of Indonesians are polyglots. Most of them can speak at least one local language (sometimes several dialects of them), standard Indonesian, understand Jakartan dialect which mainly used in nasional televisions.

[@owenlantu192]

*Kalau kita tilik lagi, banyak sekali kata dari bahasa Malaysia dan bahasa Indonesia terlihat sama tapi pengertiannya saja yg berbeda artinya. Terkadang kita bisa salah paham. Contoh yg sederhana ➡️ pusing untuk bahasa Malaysia berarti jalan2, sedangkan pusing dalam bahasa Indonesia berarti pening / sakit kepala. Dekat bahasa Malaysia berarti di. Untuk bahasa Indonesia berarti jaraknya tak jauh.*

[@MrMalayboyz]

Pusing - punyai berbagai makna dalam bhs Melayu, antaranya berputar, berkeliling atau berlegar, menipu, bingung dan sakit kepala. Bergantung kepada konteks ayat. Bagi org M'sia, pusing sering diertikan dgn makna putar dan berkeliling kota (jalan2), sakit kepala pula lazim disebut 'pening', namun masih ada org M'sia yang menyebut pusing untuk 'sakit kepala' dan ia tidak salah. Dekat - dlm bhs Melayu digunakan untuk menunjukkan jarak tempat. Sama saja dgn bahasa anda. Namun, dalam bahasa percakapan tidak rasmi, 'dekat' sering dipakai untuk menggantikan 'di'.

[@BOPENKK]

Dhong Zhong ketawa ngakak lihat bahasa Rojak MALASIA dipersetannkan. Miris udah gak laku bahasa malasyA Rojak alien Kampoeng aja BANGLASIA hantu bungkus 👻 Makanya jangan heran donK chnl trenpublika sudah membuktikan makanya hohoy yahoy yahut yihaa belajar sejarah di vlog chnl trenpublika 🤭 🇲🇾❤️🇧🇩

[@aishahembi4709]

Di Malaysia....'dekat' atau 'kat' , itu bahasa pasar/harian, maksudnya 'di' lah...Kamu tinggal di mana?..kami guna 'di' juga untuk 'at'(English) Kalau untuk 'short distance', guna 'dekat' . Sama. 'Berhampiran' ..bahasa surat

[@BOPENKK]

Dhong Zhong ketawa ngakak lihat bahasa Rojak MALASIA gak laku aja BANGLASIA hantu bungkus 👻 Makanya jangan heran donK chnl trenpublika sudah membuktikan makanya hohoy yahoy yahut yihaa belajar sejarah di vlog chnl trenpublika 😭🇲🇾❤️🇧🇩

[@chairystabrick5335]

Karena malaysia tidak ingin mengakui bahwa akar bahasa melayu berasal dari wilayah Indonesia juga. Supaya tidak terkesan "mengekor" maka artinya dibedakan😅

[@suwardizakir4875]

Ini orang asal ngomong. Saya Indonesia, saya nggak fahan kalau ada orang Malaysia ngomong pakai bahasa Melayu.

[@singkongkeju589]

Lah ente kurang jauh maunnya, coba tengok sana di sumatra, esp Riau. Dulu punya temen kuliah mereka tuh logatnya bener2 kek org Malay

[@firstlast2602]

orang indonesia mana dulu? kalo bukan dari kalimantan atau sumatra ya jelas gak terbiasa denger orang melayu di malaysia kayak gimana ngomongnya. saya dari pulau jawa juga gak ngerti mereka ngomong apa awalnya, tapi pas liat tulisannya baru ngerti *asalkan* bahasanya formal. kalo ternyata gak formal dan mereka pake bahasa gaul ya orang dari malaysia sendiri juga gak semuanya ngerti bang

[@Iyuspirang-gq8uh]

@@firstlast2602 ah gw jakarta paham klo org malay bicara

[@MamanMekanik-xb3ow]

@@Iyuspirang-gq8uh gua juga orang Jakarta ga paham bahasa Malay Tempatan,tapi kalau mereka sudah keturunan indo Malay ya ngerti

[@nazripain9302]

@suwardizakir4875 Kamu ngomong Indon juga kami di Malaysia juga enggak paham....

[@martabak4622]

Without watching the video go straight to comments battleground 😎

[@corwyz1286]

Ingat brunei darusalam pernah mengambil beberapa ribu kosa kata bahasa indonesia, dan di masukan ke kamus melayu brunei darusalam, dan sampai sekarang banyak di gunakan oleh orang-orang brunei singapura malaysia dan thailand selatan. Dan Ingat kalau bahasa melayu yang murni sampai hari ini masih terjaga di indonesia, Karena bagian dari salah satu bahasa daerah dari sekian ratus bahasa daerah yang ada di indonesia. Dan orang indonesia yang bukan suku melayu bila mendengar bahasa melayu murni soperti di sumatera dan riau dll. Mereka hanya bisa memahami 20% bahasa melayu walaupun fasih berbahasa indonesia..

[@jktingkir]

Bapak Kau lah Brunei Pinjam dari indonesia. Padahal udah di jelaskan di video kesamaan itu 80% dikit kat itu? Baca "Kitab Pengetahuan Bahasa" Yang merupakan panduan Bahasa Indonesia mengklaim Bahasa Melayu jadi Bahasa Indonesia Yang di tulis Raja Ali Haji di abad 18 itu buku berisi tata Bahasa Melayu untuk pedoman pengajaran anak-anak Melayu, dan kosa-kata yang ditulis itu menggunakan Bahasa Melayu dari era Malaka. Raja Ali Haji tidak pernah menulis itu untuk Indonesia karena dia meninggal indonesia-Malaysia belum ada lagi. Stop Mental anjing gini ya. Kalau kelompok kau kurang kejayaan dan peradaban, waktu sekarang kau buat. Jadi gak iri

[@greenearthtalks4433]

Gak masalah...kita juga ambil kosa kata dari Portugis, Belanda , inggris , sansekerta dll

[@corwyz1286]

@@greenearthtalks4433 hadeh bedakan menyerap dan mengambil...tolol ko di pelihara.

[@corwyz1286]

@@greenearthtalks4433 sedangkan indo bahasa itu damusakan ke amanat undang, yang mana mengeluarkan apbn. Dan bedakan sarapan sama maling, nih gue kasih contoh bahasa serapan, kulkas itu dari bahasa belanda dan cara penulisan dan bacanya juga beda, lalu di serap ke bahasa indonesia di tulis nya kulkas dan dibacanya kulkas..

[@corwyz1286]

@@greenearthtalks4433 makanya belajar sastra bahasa indonesia.

[@RyuFah]

I’m Indonesian of Sunda & Java descendants. I speak mainly Sundanese everyday at home and with the community. But I am also fluent / near native in Indonesian language. As for Malay, I can say I am fluent as well, since I have many Malay friends and speak it esp the colloquial version, for the standard Malay, I found a little difficulty esp with the Arabic loan words

[@galangtirtayudha3973]

I'm an Indonesian and I went to Malaysia. And to be honest, there's not much difference between it and my country. Never in my life I talk Melayu, but day one in there, I somehow can talk Melayu..., with a bit of mistake for sure. But, yeah, not that much different tbh.

[@pikiranrantas1693]

Sangat beda, banyak kata-kata bahasa Indonesia di klaim oleh malaysia, dan ini berjalan bertahun-tahun sehingga malaysia merasa bahasanya sama dengan bahasa Indonesia... Malaysia tidak punya tata bahasa yang jelas, ejaan dan ucapan tidak konsisten dan sangat menyulitkan. Oleh karena itu dari 30 juta penduduk malay tidak menguasai bahasa malay dengan baik terutama warga keturunan china, india & bangladesh.

[@odeychan9014]

ooh, terbalik eh 😂 kami pulak rasa tatabahasa versi indo berterabur

[@karldonitz8056]

Most of Malaysians are knows Indonesian language and it's slang but most of indonesian are did not understand the Malay language except for part of it

[@landove1486]

Because Msians get exposed by Bahasa Indonesia more, through drama, movie, song, etc. Indonesians get quite limited exposure through animation series like Upin Ipin, Boyboyboy that do not include many slang words.

[@LunaMisake]

I love both Indonesian language and Malaysian language. But, Malaysian tend to be able to speak Indonesian even the slang because there are lots of sinetron, drama and movie, even lots of song coming from Indonesia. We tend to learn fast when it come to Indonesian language because of that. Nowadays I can speak even Javanese slang a lil bit due to I have lots of Indonesian friend. I will highlight one thing, Malaysian love to copy language wahahahaha XD But not in a bad way. When we like a certain language, we will learn it more but through informal way, watching movie with English or Malay subtitle really help a lot O.O and listening to song XD this day lots of short form from Indonesian became one of a thing even in Malaysia XD new word got accepted easily.. (we accept thing faster I will say)

[@GraculaReligiosa-404.b]

Because Indonsian was created by the Malay civilization, and the natives of Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore are Malays, of course Malay language exists in all these countries and of course Malay people understand Indonsian because it comes from the same language, only upgraded and perfected. the spelling.

[@BOPENKK]

Makanya jangan heran donK chnl trenpublika sudah membuktikan makanya hohoy yahoy yahut yihaa belajar sejarah di vlog chnl trenpublika 😀🇲🇾❤️🇧🇩

[@kratingdeng_]

​@@BOPENKKchanel pemecah bae kamu simak, sebagian besar cuman mengandung isu seng belum jelas, bukan 100% fakta. Belajar O sejarah dari chanel lain mas, jangan mau dibodohi

[@benitoriougm]

Bahasa Indonesia is totally different with BM, and hi malaysia don't ever labeling Bahasa Melayu Indonesia, itu adalah haram! just take care ur BM, and don't ever stole Bahasa Indonesia as BM!!!!

[@benitoriougm]

Bahasa Melayu Malaysia only spoken 16M people not all 33M Malaysian speak Bahasa Melayu, please make correction! BM just spoken very tiny people compare to Bahasa Indonesia 278M!

[@odeychan9014]

278M speaks Bahasa

[@benitoriougm]

@@odeychan9014 halu, lo claim bahasa Indonesia dasar x de adab dan malu!!! Cuma negara kecil tapi numpang ke Nusantara Indonesia yang besar

[@odeychan9014]

@@benitoriougm Bahasa tu maksudnya versi Indon dgn Malay ler.. so kira betul lah org indo pun mengaku bahasa sama 😂 malu2 lak 🤣

[@odeychan9014]

@@benitoriougm Bahasa tu aku maksudnya versi Malaysia dgn Indon ler 😌 punya marah sampai takut dengan bayang sendiri, kira mengaku lah tu bahasa sama

[@bonnieculla6210]

@@odeychan9014 oh berarti udah ngaku ya sekarang BM MLESAK itu BAHASA GAGAL? nyampe maksa klaim INDONESIAN speakers sekarang karena emang PENUTUR BM MLESAK makin lama makin minim 😁

[@sngkt9592]

Indonesian language is standardized Malay. Periodt.

[@sngkt9592]

The over nationalists Indonesian behaviour in the comment section will not change the fact that Indonesian language IS Malay.

[@sngkt9592]

You may have tons of standardized version of 1 language, in the end the difference is only occurred when it comes to vocabulary ! You will not have American, Taiwanese, or Egyptian language, you still call it English, Mandarin, and Arabic !

[@sngkt9592]

Greetings from Palembang

[@sngkt9592]

Deny as much as you can but in reality, the language body of Indonesian absorbed more English words than local languages !

[@sngkt9592]

Of course they are 2 separate language cause they have their own code, but it is solely because of political reason.

[@fritzid]

Malaysian and Indonesian are basically Serbo-Croatian language of the East. Technically the same, divided by nationalist sentiment

[@andriokurniawan]

The irony is that now what is happening in Malaysia is that Malay is starting to be abandoned, especially young people prefer to speak English. The funny thing is that if you go to Malaysia and use Malay, many Malay people don't understand, they understand English better.

[@kamaruzzamanothman4431]

Saudara dapat info dari mana ni. Jom datang ke Malaysia dan tinggal di sini. Nanti saudara nilai sendiri, betul atau salah apa yg saudara tulis.

[@HerryNovri]

@@kamaruzzamanothman4431 once I checked-in in a hotel, the receptionist is a Chinese. I spoke Bahasa and she answered in English. Then I went to a shop, I spoke Bahasa to the Indian shopkeeper. Again, he answered in English. Obviously they understood Malay/Indonesian, but they can not speak it. Lol.. I have many Singaporean Malay colleague. When I spoke informally with them I always use Bahasa. Everyone answered in Bahasa except one guy, he always answered in English..l.o.l.

[@vorcent_jax]

​@@HerryNovriLol

[@intrickchannel7705]

​@@HerryNovriThat fact is very painful😅

[@asiaone9609]

​@@intrickchannel7705it's more PAINFUL FOR POOR INDONESIAN LIVING ILLEGALLY IN MALAYSIA WHILE SAYING "INDONESIA MENDUNIA G20" 😂😂😂😂 WTF!!!

[@muhammadyazid6333]

Wahhh wan hit a different level 🎉

[@polyglotdreams]

Yes!

[@RENDY.FLACME]

Ase banyak belajar kau . Sejarah yang benar adalah si malingsial/ Malaysial tukang curi budaya dan Mengambil Sejarah Leluhur Melayu dari Daerah Riau Melayu Indonesia

[@JoshuaArfan]

I'm an Indonesia, I think an indonesia and a Malaysia, when we speak can understand each other

[@apinbozzo3457]

Saya orang Indonesia, bahasa kami sama dengan Malaysia, kamu saling mendengar lagu, film dan drama tanpa perlu terjemahan, bahkan kami berdebat dengan bahasa masing-masing dan mengerti satu sama lain. Tidak mungkin kita berdebat dengan bahasa masing-masing tanpa saling mengerti.

[@andrewdipta69]

Indonesia itu luas bro. Kalo situ Indonesia bagian melayu ya pasti paham. Coba situ jalan makin ke timur, puyeng2 dah tuh. Oiya, mengerti bukan berarti serupa. Mengerti karena ya memang akarnya sama, tapi mengerti karena otak ikut mencerna. Coba ke Jawa, trs ke timur Indonesia trs ngomong pake bahasa ala Malaysia, kasian yang denger harus kerja ekstra otaknya memproses itu semua, haha.

[@bonnieculla6210]

PREEETTTT SMENANJENK NYAMAR. MALU YA NGAKU JADI MLEISA? 🤪🤪🤪

[@netizen8146]

setuju. yang orang Indonesia perdebatkan selama ini tu cuma dialek, tapi karena kurangnya literasi tentang linguistik, mereka tidak bisa membedakan mana bahasa, dialek, dan logat. tapi tentunya jangan lupa ngegas dulu sebelum berfikir 🤪

[@netizen8146]

@@andrewdipta69 bahasa itu luas bro, yang Anda sebut² itu cuma perbedaan dialek, bukan bahasa.

[@andrewdipta69]

@@netizen8146 Bro bro, kenyang banget dikasih doktrin Malaysia masalah dialek. Sekarang apa iya Bahasa Jawa itu bagian dari dialek Malaysia? Bahasa Indonesia nggak pernah ingkar bahasa akarnya darimana. Yang jadi masalah disini, Malaysia gagal membentuk bahasa nasionalnya lalu sekarang sengaja bikin onar masalah bahasa dan kurang ajar masuk ke ranah teriyori Indonesia. Terserah Malaysia mau bikin bahasa sendiri, pake nama baru nggak ada yang peduli. Proses berkembangnya bahasa Indonesia udah jauh banget berbanding bahasa Malaysia yang susah berkembang karena politik kesukuan mereka sendiri. Akhirnya mereka mau curang bohongin Indonesia dan ambil kosakata Indonesia sampe puluhan ribu. Itu sebabnya Indonesia keluar dari organisasi bahasa antara Indonesia, Malaysia dan Brunei. Bahasa Indonesia berkembang banyak pengaruh dari bahasa yang nggak ada di Malaysia. Sekarang apa iya Jawa mau disebut dialek bahasa Melayu atau Jawa disebut Melayu? Yang punya masalah internal itu cuma Malaysia di 2024 ini untuk urusan kebangsaan dan identitas bahasanya. Negara lain normal aja kasih nama bahasa mereka sesuai nama negaranya. Misal, France (French), Dutch, Deutch, Thai, dll. Cuma negara krisis identitas aja yang masih ribut urusan beginian, yaitu Malaysia. Segala cara dilakuin ganggu Indonesia biar politik kesukuan mereka tetep jalan. Mana bisa di era terbuka begini masih terapin politik kesukuan, yang ada bubar malahan.

[@andrewdipta69]

Sorry, i guess not all 33 million Malaysian speak Malay. Some even can't speak the national language.

[@Dolok260]

You know nothing about non-Malay Malaysians. They speak the Malay language of course but the colloquial way and hesitate to speak formally.

[@Dolok260]

Why you compare casual Malay with standard version of Bahasa Indonesia 😅😅😅

[@andrewdipta69]

@@Dolok260 The hesitation is so big that they don't realise the important of the national language. Maybe it'll be better if the gov change the name of the language to Bahasa Malaysia and do not change it again into one spesific etnic language. And the gov should stop brain-washing the young people by telling the truth that "Melayu" is an etnic, not race. So everyone will have the soul to their country just like every other countries in the world. In this world in this modern era, maybe only Malaysia still battling with the etnicity problematic things including the language, at least in this region.

[@ferryirawan-on2wt]

Sumatra akar melayu,not malay.

[@thegrandlord2914]

​​​@@andrewdipta69exactly. When Indonesian language founding fathers decided to create a new language, they are stuck with the naming of the new language. At first the new language is called as Indonesian Malay language. But then they realize that this name will only causing alot of horizontal problem. Not only that, the existence of word "Malay" in the language name, will slowly destroying the authenticity of malay language and will causing the language to lost it's uniqueness between dialects. Realizing this, indonesian language founding fathers then removing the word "Malay" and officialy calling the language as Bahasa Indonesia. Just like what they predict, this new name of the language are easily accepted by every indonesian people since the name giving them the sense of ownership, since there is no identity of ethnic or tribe marked in the language name. Instead, the name showing them that the language is owned by the entire indonesian people. If malaysian government realy want their citizen speak the same language, they should change the name of their language to be Malaysian language or any name that shows neutrality. Btw, this attempt by Indonesian language founding fathers also prooved effective to preserve malay language and dialects in indonesia.

[@MuhammadafifAzindani]

What a great information and education, my suggestion as a viewer who are still learning english if you don't mind adding subtitles to your next video, thank you sir

[@polyglotdreams]

Great suggestion!

[@myoonly6974]

Malay language and Indonesian language is come from same root...Indonesian Language is Malay Language...Indonesia renamed it Indonesian language because of nationalism unified.. Indonesian Language habe been exist since 1928 and it still part of Malay language.. period.

[@motorola9956]

Modern Indonesian language does not owe its presence by wholesalely borrowing from modern malay. It has grown and developed alongside modern Malaysian malay since its conception in 1928. Interestingly Indonesian language had an influence on modern malay language. The suffixes of -is, -si, -isme, -isis, isasi, are one of many Indonesianisms found in malay. So modern Indonesian is its own language in its own right, while modern malay is also its own language in its own right.

[@kamaruzzamanothman4431]

Betul ...

[@ladycempluk2481]

john mcwhorter said colloquial malay is more complicated than colloquial indonesian John McWhorter(linguist) suggested that colloquial Indonesian would be an ideal universal language for the world.

[@obrolanngawur8457]

Lon malon

[@ongkialexander792]

Malay language born from indonesia,bahasa ORI malasiya is English,Mandarin and tamil.malay language in malasiya is came from indonesia(sumatera)

[@nagawahyudi]

ini makanannya tren publika wkwkwkm poligot malay sendiri ngaku kl indo malay itu udah beda

[@BOPENKK]

🤭👍

[@adibonot6109]

malaysia itu indonesia. karna kebudayaan bahasa,makana kultur semuanya itu indonesia. kalo orang barat lihat malaysia itu bukan negara dan bangsa itu bagian dari indonesia NKRI. harga mati.

[@robypratama1822]

I can speak malay dialect, im from Borneo Indonesia

[@BOPEENKK]

Di Kalimantan itu Melayu nya banyak ada Melayu Sambas Melayu mana lagi saya lupa dan setiap Melayu disana bahasa nya berbeda(di setiap daerah Melayu yg ad di kalimantan.berbeda baik makna ,arti dan logat dll)

[@netizen8146]

the question is the same as "are Portuguese and Brazilian, Spanish and Chilean, English and American, Saudi Arabian and Egyptian, North Korean and South Korean, Surabayan and Tegal, Bogorean and Bandung the same language?" so i consider it as the same language and just different dialect. and because of politic, it become a separate language. anyway, in my opinion, brother Wan Amirul is just afraid to say the truth, because mostly Indonesian will be upset and then try to attack to someone who said it's a same language. what an irony. ‼️DISCLAIMER‼️if you don't agree with me, let's discuss it linguistically not politically!

[@ladycempluk2481]

john mcwhorter said colloquial malay is more complicated than colloquial indonesian John McWhorter(linguist) suggested that colloquial Indonesian would be an ideal universal language for the world.

[@netizen8146]

@@ladycempluk2481 so what's your point?

[@ladycempluk2481]

@@netizen8146 to give you information

[@netizen8146]

@@ladycempluk2481 oh okay thanks, i'm glad to hear that. but anw i didn't mention about colloquial, mate! my point is it's just the same language. on social media, Indonesian use Jakartan (Jabodetabek) dialect for colloquial, Malaysian use Kuala Lumpur (Selangor) dialect for colloquial.

[@ladycempluk2481]

@@netizen8146 Have you studied linguistics?

[@danvisor]

Faham atau tidaknya biasanya tergantung dari gaya bicara dan kalimat yang sering diucapkan sehari-hari, banyak kata-kata yang mirip tapi beda fungsi & ada sebagian kata yang jarang dipake di negara Indonesia tapi di Malaysia dipake, begitu juga sebaliknya.

[@AlfarrisiMuammar]

As Indonesian malay etnic grup. This good video

[@polyglotdreams]

Thanks so much terima kasih

[@AlfarrisiMuammar]

@@polyglotdreams terimakasih juga Mr. Salam dari Riau , Sumatra, Indonesian 🇮🇩

[@muhammadnoorbinrohani39]

NO. MALAY USE ARABIC LANGUAGE

[@chunchunmaru3093]

11:13 Indonesia can also use word "basuh/dibasuh" but for me it only used for washing part of our body like "membasuh tangan", "membasuh muka", "kakinya dibasuh terlebih dahulu", and I think it's more related to how much water we use Basuh only for a few water. while "cuci" can be use for anything.

[@joshadams8761]

Fantastic video! I had been wondering for many years. These two languages seem at least as different as Received Pronunciation and Scots.

[@polyglotdreams]

Thanks so much for the encouragement!

[@joshadams8761]

@@polyglotdreams LangFocus has a huge audience, any anyone who enjoys that channel will enjoy this one.

[@nabilazzam9072]

why are you showing skycrapers (petronas twins) to depict Malaysia and rice fields for Indonesia? are you saying Indonesia was an underdeveloped nation?

[@faiq026]

Bro started a war

[@polyglotdreams]

Yes!

[@xolang]

Thank you for the very informative video! The lexical similarity of 80% is way too low though. İ'd actually say it is at least 90%. Even in your examples, balik is very commonly used in İndonesian as well, although it has a rather informal feeling. Bila is also used in İndonesian in a slightly different way. İt is true that if you're from Kalimantan or Sumatra it's usually easier to understand Malaysian, but even the Malay dialects in Sulawesi, which are de facto lingua franca in many parts on the island, have many things in common with Malaysian. For example using "boleh" in the meaning of "to be able to", or even basic pronouns like "kitorang" and "dorang" which are very commonly used in spoken Malaysian. Not to mention the fact that İndonesians generally know commonly used Malaysian words, even though they barely ever use those words in their own speech. The terms may end up sounding bookish, poetic, old fashioned or simply weird to İndonesian ears, but most likely they've encountered those words somewhere in İndonesia, be it through literature or (Malay based) dialects or through another medium.

[@ladycempluk2481]

john mcwhorter said colloquial malay is more complicated than colloquial indonesian John McWhorter(linguist) suggested that colloquial Indonesian would be an ideal universal language for the world.

[@bonnieculla6210]

THAT'S BECAUSE MLEISA CLAIMED 62K NON MALAY WORDS FROM INDONESIAN DICTIONARY BECAUSE THEY FAILED TO EVOLVE THEIR OWN LANGUAGE 😂 EVEN UNTIL NOW THEY STILL COPYING NEW INDONESIAN WORDS LIKE "SWAFOTO" BECAME THEY'RE OBSESSED TO MAKE THEIR BM SIMILAR TO INDONESIAN 🤪

[@hanflax4679]

ITS Austronesia language who connect those languages, not Malay. Austronesia region such Philippines also have some Vocabulary same

[@BOPENKK]

Dhong Zhong ketawa ngakak lihat bahasa Rojak MALASIA gak laku aja BANGLASIA hantu bungkus 👻 Makanya jangan heran donK chnl trenpublika sudah membuktikan makanya hohoy yahoy yahut yihaa belajar sejarah di vlog chnl trenpublika 😀🇲🇾❤️🇧🇩

[@offisialan]

Sangat bermamfaat... Selamat...👍👍

[@yogasetiaone]

I can speak malay melayu languages but they don't understand javanese languages

[@brandany17]

10:51 🇮🇩 Berbicara 🇲🇾 Bercakap

[@nuryusraamni1288]

Berbicara also malay word. Malaysia jarang guna x bermakna org melayu di negara lain tak guna ya.

[@terehmill1819]

​@@nuryusraamni1288Malay word apanya?? 😂😂 Jangan ngaku2

[@NUSANTARA.2045]

@@nuryusraamni1288 ngomong apaan sih?

[@depanbelakang1574]

@@nuryusraamni1288 sebaliknya "cakap " dalam bahasa indonesia memiliki arti yang berbeda yaitu ahli/mampu/mahir. on the contrary, "cakap" in indonesia have different meaning. which is not "to speak" but "skillfully, to be able to, etc". cakap1/ca·kap/ a 1 kl sanggup melakukan sesuatu; mampu; dapat: -- engkau membunuh hulubalang itu?; patik tiada -- bercerai dengan dia; 2 pandai; mahir: anak itu belum -- mengerjakan hitungan perkalian; 3 mempunyai kemampuan dan kepandaian untuk mengerjakan sesuatu: ia diberhentikan dari jabatannya karena tidak --; 4 bagus rupanya; cantik; rupawan: gadis itu modern lagi --; 5 bagus; elok (potongan atau halus bahannya tentang pakaian dan sebagainya): alangkah -- nya baju itu; 6 patut; serasi: ia pantas dan -- benar memakai baju itu; 7 Mk tangkas; cekatan (tidak lamban): tampaknya ia -- bekerja; bercakap/ber·ca·kap/ kl v mempunyai kemampuan atau keberanian melakukan sesuatu; berkuasa: seorang pun tiada ~ naik pohon nyiur itu; inilah prajurit yang ~ mencuri keris laksamana; mempercakap/mem·per·ca·kap/ v menjadikan lebih cakap (mampu, mahir): kita harus berusaha ~ anak-anak agar dapat melahirkan isi hatinya dengan tepat; mempercakapkan/mem·per·ca·kap·kan/ v mempercakap; kecakapan /ke·ca·kap·an /n 1 kemampuan; kesanggupan; 2 kepandaian atau kemahiran mengerjakan sesuatu

[@nuryusraamni1288]

@@depanbelakang1574 in malay, mampu atau bagus dalam buat kerja is cekap ya. Indonesia ambik dari bhasa melayu n tukar kepada cakap. Lagi perkataan apa lgi yg kalian rasa hanya indo punya dan bukan bhasa melayu?

[@sartonokanal]

What about alphabet pronunciation in melayu malaysia? Exactly, very different from bahasa Indonesia. Melayu Malaysia uses British pronounciation, while Bahasa Indonesia uses Indonesian pronounciation.

[@JahalGyver]

Beza pinjaman dan curian 😁

[@bonnieculla6210]

@@JahalGyver ANEH EMANG BM LU ITU MAKSA PAKE ENGLISH PRONOUNCIATION DI NON ENGLISH. CUMA BM LU DOANK YG KEK GITU SOALNYA EMANG BAHASA GAGAL 🤪😜😜🫵

[@peaceofmind7390]

Indonesia used dutch pronunciation....kenapa nggak mau ngaku?

[@GraculaReligiosa-404.b]

005 Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuijsen" is a Dutchman who was born in Solok, West Sumatra and mixed with the natives, interested in various Indonsian cultures, especially Minang/Malay, so he summarized the origins of the Indonsian language from the two great traditional figures of Minang Kabau "Tengku Nawawi with the title "Sutan Makmur" and Muhammad Taib with the title "Sutan Ibrahim" and the Dutch legalized/officialized the first spelling of Van Ophuijsen's version of 'Malay Language' as an intermediary language between colonialists and natives and in 1972 the Indonsian and Malaysian parties compromised on improving the Malay language for these two countries, EYD(Improved spelling) was used until now. Meanwhile, the language used by Indonsia from the colonial period until the 1901-1947 struggle and when the proclamation was read was the van Ophuijsen version of the spelling language. - The Malay tribe is one of the sub tribe of the Minang Kabau tribe, the spread of this Malay tribe is from Central Sumatra, the Malay Peninsula, west and north Borneo to southwest Philippines. - If the Malay language was not patented by Ophuijsen into the 'Alphabet' letters/characters, then it is very likely that Indonsian now uses Arabic (Jawi) letters/characters. Ophuijsen Spelling (1901) Republic Spelling or Soewandi Spelling (1947-1956) Spelling Reform (1956-1961) Melindo Spelling (1961-1967) New Spelling/Language and Literature Institute (LBK) (1967-1972) Improved Spelling (EYD) (1972-2015) General Guidelines for Indonsian Spelling (PUEBI) (2015-2022) Improved Indonsian Spelling (EYD)(2022) How could the Malay language become extinct, instead it is the Malay people of Malaysia who maintain the ancient/old Malay language. Meanwhile, the Malay language in Indonsia was changed and upgraded to become Indonsian. - This means that Indonsia is the one who destroyed/stole the Malay language. why do thieves shout thieves? Stup1d javqnese.. The bull symbol in the logo of the PD1P party (Indonsian Democratic Party of Struggle) is taken/copied from "Parta1 Nasional Indonesia1a", which also comes from "Perhimpunan Indonsia" which also comes from "Indische Vereen1ging" a social organization of Indonsian indigenous students founded by "Rajiun Harahap" (titled Sutan kasajangan soripada) with other friends in the Netherlands in 1908. - while Rajiun Harahap was once a student and teaching assistant of "Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuysen". Because of the great influence of Minang Kabau/Malay customs/culture on Prof. Charles Adriaan van Ophuyen, it also influenced the mindset of "Rajiun harahap" as his student, thus making the logo/symbol of the indigenous student organization 'Indische Vereeniging' become "Red and white buffalo head ". (Moreover, M.Hatta once served as the longest serving chairman of an Indonsian association) - then the symbol of the Indonsian National Party, was distorted/blended by Karno to become the head of a bull, and that is the logo of the party of Karno's descendants (the Megawat1) now. The 'Garuda' symbol, only became available after the formation of the 'State Badge Committee' on January 10 1950, which was regulated directly by the coordinating metric Sultan Hamid, there were 2 types of designs, namely from Muhammad Yamin and Sultan Hamid II, the two of which were combined to perfect each other, becoming the Garuda. - again and again, apart from the youth oath and the five principles initiated by Muhammad Yamin, the Garuda national emblem also involves Minang people and Sutan Hamid II, a Malay person as well, (Malays are one of the Minangkabau tribes). - Once again, javqnese just giving up his name, giving up fame, giving up his life, then betraying the nation and state. - What would you like to be proud of? There is no contribution other than being a sycophant and traitor. - It's so stupid that the 'buffalo fight' was lost to the Pagaruyung kingdom, pretending to claim to control the archipelago too. The meaning of the 'Minang kabau' word is winning buffalo. So there is nothing to be proud of from the Javq tribe, then they gained fame in the Minang civilization, type in Google: "keaslian prasasti adityawarman", open the Indonsian geogrqphic nationql site, there is a statement by a prof. Arlo who admits that it is only a one-sided claim based on assumptions High level fantasies link Adityawarman with the kingdom of Jawq Majqpahit. Even though there is no supporting evidence, this claim has easily entered Indonsian national history, and ordinary people (Javq stup1d) immediately believe it without finding out the valid data. It is increasingly proven and revealed that the disgrace of the Javq tribe is trying to dismantle history and distort the facts. (This is not much). Traitors to the nation pretend to be calling the 'nkri harga mati' (The unity of the country is non-negotiable) - This jealousy has been maintained from generation to generation by generations of the Javq tribe until now. If Javq were told to create their own country the size of Javq Island and create their own ideology, they would not be able to because human resources are low and natural resources are poor. (Try looking at the 'United Republic of Indonnsia' map on Google) They have no identity/no self-respect, they just want to gain name/fame, hang around for a living, occupy positions/seize power that the Malay heroes have struggled to form/establish. Seize the natural resources of other tribes' land and go on a spree on the suffering of the people. The proof is that in Papua there is the largest gold mine in the world (Grasbergg) but its people live in the poorest province in Indonsia, even though the regional budget is the 5th highest in Indonsia.

[@BOPENKK]

Dhong Zhong ketawa ngakak lihat bahasa Rojak MALASIA dipersetannkan. Miris udah gak laku bahasa malasyA Rojak alien Kampoeng aja BANGLASIA hantu bungkus 👻 Makanya jangan heran donK chnl trenpublika sudah membuktikan makanya hohoy yahoy yahut yihaa belajar sejarah di vlog chnl trenpublika 🤭 🇲🇾❤️🇧🇩