Are Mass Dampers Here To Stay?

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Күн бұрын

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@BenCathro Ай бұрын

If I put a mass damper on my helmet would it stop my vision going blurry in the whoops?

@pinkbike Ай бұрын

Absolutely

@lodg1e Ай бұрын

Maybe go easy on the beers the night before. That would surely ease some of the blurry vision.

@brettjohnson9453 Ай бұрын

There was a recent firmware upgrade for eye balls which addresses this. Nothing to do with helmets

@TheOtherPlayer Ай бұрын

Isn’t your brain kinda a mass damper for your head 🧐

@nathantoney.1501 Ай бұрын

Yeah. Sometimes my eye dampers aren’t working. It doesn’t sound crazy to me…

@dhrracer Ай бұрын

It may not be an item of tech. But the one thing all riders have talked about this season is the tracks. Mainly they have become much faster and that brings greater risks. Therefor tech/engineering works on finding solutions to improve control and safety in those conditions. If the tracks went back to being steeper and more technical some of these new things may not be even ideas. However, the common theme from the interviews was the effort of trying to come to a better understanding of how these things impact the bike so they can be as tools to give more options to tune for specific conditions. Which are the fundamentals of all types of racing platforms. I will also add that it is interesting to see how slow and far behind the bike industry is. All the tech that we see being as something new has been around for a good 40 years or so.

@William.Driscoll Ай бұрын

That Yeti keeps looking better and better

@nilsnilsnilsify Ай бұрын

Waiting for one of the enterprising mechanics or riders to say "they're awesome for braking bumps" and then sell them at WBP for $299

@Icamas Ай бұрын

That pivot seems ready for launch, on friday probably

@scrutch666 Ай бұрын

This kind of segments always proof that we have great bikes since a while and you can’t improve much

@casestudymtb Ай бұрын

Confidence is a hell of a drug

@xalexanderx7342 Ай бұрын

Mass damper could be something that is internal on the frame in the future, that would be really cool

@SneakyB Ай бұрын

rimpact installs them inside the steerer tube in place of the star nut. testing so far shows lower amplitude on impacts so they're a bit more comfy and stable on rough stuff.

@morganmegarry1793 Ай бұрын

Kaz getting the camera time, hell yea!

@dumwee Ай бұрын

Since you are using F1 as an example in thumbnail we should add remove supsension too on downhill

@worldstallestmidget Ай бұрын

Wow what a change! I remember when bikes were to heavy and light weight bikes made you you. Now heavier bikes are better! Tho be it strategic placing of weights theyre still making the bikes heavier! Good thing I am fat and I’m my own mass damper! Lol

@jacob_wilson_236 Ай бұрын

We need more product enhancement! Keep it up

@YTOnlineReviews Ай бұрын

Best Wishes.

@JamieMcilreavy Ай бұрын

I can't see it staying around long

@lucafrica74 Ай бұрын

Ok, but how are made these mass damper, what weigh, what there is inside sand or what? how big this sand is, different materials?

@SneakyB Ай бұрын

they're basically tungsten weights that are suspended with springs. the weights have to be changed according to the rider's weight since there's an ideal ratio depending on bump frequency.

@lucafrica74 Ай бұрын

@@SneakyB Thank's a lot, I undestand more about mass damper in your answer!

@SneakyB Ай бұрын

@@lucafrica74 the TMD featured in this video is from countershox. the weights they use is made of brass which is slightly lighter than tungsten that rimpact is currently developing. it's supposed to lessen the amplitude of vibrations ranging between 8-10 Hz. On a long hard day of enduro that would be very beneficial against arm pump since these cover the bigger arm motions. this also helps control "tire jounce" since rubber is difficult to control with dampers(this is used as safety device for motogp to prevent highsides). in contrast, products like vibrocore dampen higher frequency mainly in the 12-50hz which is the trail buzz. hope this reference helps.

@lucafrica74 Ай бұрын

@@SneakyB super, I understand more!

@tomraher8176 Ай бұрын

How does a mass damper work?

@TheTrio3331 Ай бұрын

There is a floating weight between two springs. It basically doesn't impact the very initial stroke or rebound but adds more mass to the system past a certain amount of travel. The specifics of the internals are all secretive, but I imagine these ones have some kind of oil system in them to provide further damping. The added mass sucks some of the inertia of whatever they are attached to, slowing down the travel of that part. They can also absorb higher frequency vibrations due to the spring-only connection they have to the rest of the system, so they may reduce chatter.

@daviddawson4091 Ай бұрын

weight, spring; upy & downy.

@montus123 Ай бұрын

I was about not to click this video because I didn’t want to see ben over and over again. But seeing kaz hell yeah. Also he’s a director now. Way to go!

@offroadrepairman Ай бұрын

I miss “ dialed ”

@danwilliams783 Ай бұрын

Riders should get on a rigid bike for the off-season, then return to their bikes with 7 inches of travel. This will give them an appreciation of compliant bikes they can push much more.

@rocketappliantist4969 Ай бұрын

like a batting weight!

@jigglemore Ай бұрын

I think the mass dampers are 90º out and they’d help with frame flex/leaned over grip… would love to see a team mount one sideways and see if it helps.

@luukjanssens5875 Ай бұрын

What a relieve to see a guy who can actually speak

@noControl556 Ай бұрын

Oh yea those things came and went pretty quick on dirtbikes. Hint nobody wants to strap extra useless weight onto their bikes.

@joerapo 13 күн бұрын

I don't know if these will stay, but dirt bikes are like 150lbs heavier than a DH bike so they already act like a mass damper. They also tend to ride on tracks with less rocks and roots.

@sk.maranam.gaming Ай бұрын

@valciobanu Ай бұрын

What is this mass damper?

@BkGE1996 Ай бұрын

You guys really really need to stop comparing DH World Cup racing to F1. None of us want this sport to become anything like F1. And the more the big media outlets compare it to that, the easier it will be for the sport to head that direction. Come on, smarter up!

@plainsrider Ай бұрын

I agree it is pathetic. Mountain Biking is nothing like F1 & a million miles away from it.

@Ganiscol Ай бұрын

You need to realize that gravity bikes are the pinnacle of bike technology, much like F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport and then stop thinking that keeping a comparison like that under the lid would have any impact on how the sport is going to be financially exploited. Its a fair assessment to make, if for nothing else than to attract more clicks without being totally misleading clickbait.

@plainsrider Ай бұрын

@@Ganiscol 🤡🤡🤡

@brandonreimer184 Ай бұрын

@Ganiscol lmfao while they each may be the pinnacle of tech in their own discipline. Throw an f1 car on a Baja course or a drag strip and see how far the pinnacle of automotive tech will get. The same goes with bikes the best dh bike is going to be shit on an xc course. Designs for different disciplines are so different they cannot be compared with each other.

@JamiedoesWildBikepacking Ай бұрын

Is the interview audio sped up? 🤣

@ryanliversage Ай бұрын

Wheel hubs need to be made to handle the extreme forces and be able to accelerate under those forces.. hubs are tiny in comparison to the bike .

@graemeesmith Ай бұрын

IMO hubs are mostly reliable enough, although I’m a relatively light person

@outthereindustries7413 Ай бұрын

Pivot Luged Prototyping - kzbin.infobYxpk7n1vNo ....My dog just freaked out at the sound of the frame snapping, boom!

@joshreyes4647 Ай бұрын

it should be electronic suspension that should be talked about being banned wth

@fts_gvng4480 Ай бұрын

I’m not sure that electronic suspension make a big difference (Amaury and Ronan won WC without electronic). I don’t see the point of banning them, but maybe regulate them…? Ps: sorry for my english

@joshreyes4647 Ай бұрын

@@fts_gvng4480 its because they dont cheat to win, 😅😅

@maxventuri-sn2mi Ай бұрын

so basically they tell you nothing

@vzhickok Ай бұрын

Are the grammar are correct here? 😁

@KP-ol3tc Ай бұрын

@lillisp9353 Ай бұрын

Hi (sorry for bad English)

@LaurentiusTriarius Ай бұрын

Mass dampers exist for one reason. Annihilation of resonance, you can't find resonance on a DH track, or outside for that matter. Google how to find resonant frequencies with pitch... Or whatever close to it. Still throwing ish at the wall, the same since the 1990's.

@joashparker8271 Ай бұрын

The track may be very irregular but the frame and suspension will have plenty of resonances