Are Multi FX a False Economy? Or An Essential for Guitarists?

[@andrewdempsey5312]

An advantage of a multiFX, is that it helps you discover what you like, and what subset of effects you end up using. If everything settles down to a consistent “board”…. You can then go and buy specific pedals and drop the multiFX is you want. As a beginner like me, it should help kill the gas. Now I just need to decide Spark 2 or Ampero Stomp 2.

[@williekenk]

That's exactly how I've started to approach it. My GX100 immediately paid for it self.

[@steved1099]

​@williekenk I second this.. I got a GX100, and that's my modeller search over...

[@KeithMilner]

Bear in mind, if you are trying to avoid chaining digital to analog conversions, some of the single-function pedals mentioned, like the Digitech Drop and Strymon Cloudburst, are digital.

[@kmjansen]

Strymon Cloudburst has analog dry-through

[@KeithMilner]

@@kmjansen Yes, but there's still A-D D-A when you are actively using it. Incidentally, I have heard at least one person say they prefer the sound of the digital through setting on the Cloudburst. Maybe it's less noisy, or buffers better, or something?

[@kmjansen]

@@KeithMilner Not of your guitar’s dry signal, just of the effect. You’re right about the ADA, but in this context I don’t think that’s what he meant.

[@randrothify]

I find that the main purpose of a multi FX is to find a cheaper way to get all of the effects that you might need but don’t necessarily use regularly. They are not necessarily best of breed but they are good enough. These tend to be marginal effects for me like flangers, chorus, pitch shifters, etc. But for things that I am a stickler for like spring reverb, amp sims and IRs, drives, analog delay,s and some fuzzes, the multi FX just don’t sound as good and I really look for very specific pedals.

[@jaymax3201]

I got a very nice M5 for $65 and will be pairing it with a Mesa Boogie. The amp costs $85. I no longer have any doubts, I no longer need the FM3 Turbo or the new HELIX.

[@RobCmusic]

I'm always on a budget, but still try and create various ways to have everything I want in my rig. That varies from no effects or a manageable choice of delay and modulation. Recently I realised I could employ my Mooer Prime P1 (which is not amazing, but useable and affordable) in the FX loop of any amp and control it via the bluetooth footswitch, so no trailing cables and easy to add to my pedalboard-amp rig (Quilter Superblock), a combo or just at the end of my pedal chain into a clean amp. Being on a low-budget I've been forced not to indulge in many superior-sounding devices, but it's also helped me realise that I don't really need much to get the job done.

[@uwedasler425]

Haha, good timing. We had a little high school band reunion in a park this morning and the idea was to use as much of the original gear from our first concert in late 1983 as possible. So I brought my Camac Space Tiger (great, but short-lived super-strat), my Kitty Hawk Supreme I head and cab, and all my original effects (Ibanez UE-400 and UE-405 multi effects and Ibanez DM1000 digital delay). Your question about multi fx having been cheaper made me do some research. Adjusted for inflation (and our change from German Marks to the EUR), the approximate current price of the UE-400, UE-405, and DM1000 combined would be in the area of 4.030 EUR (approx. 4.375 USD, 3.400 GBP). This is based on my original invoices from 1983 and official inflation charts. Absolutely everything these 3 devices do can be done better, with lower noise floor, and - if desired - in stereo, with e.g. a HX Stomp, an Ampero Stomp, or a Plethora X5. So, no, multi fx have not remotely been cheaper.

[@ShreddingFinn]

If you need a massive effects library on a budget you can’t beat a stomp, going back to pedals would cost me thousands

[@manuelhe46]

Intro sounds like early 80’s Steve Winwood.

[@natearchuleta2003]

Sounds like that one Christmas song that I only hate halfway through the season and miss again by summer.

[@DarrellW_UK]

Sounds a bit like ‘Town like Alice’ to me!

[@24avenged24]

I've had the same experience with basically finding my favorite thing in each category and that being all I use in a multi effect or plugin. Which is why I think an all in one solution is the best place to start, even if you decide to go the individual pedal route it's a great way to figure out what types of things you actually like.

[@olivernunn1656]

I switched from individual pedals to using an HX Effects. I have a couple of my 'indispensable' pedals in the HX Effects' loops (a Neunaber Immerse, and a cheap and cheerful Joyo AC Tone that I use as my preamp stage), but everything else is being done by the HX Effects. I love the flexibility that this gives me - being able to set up completely different 'pedalboards' for different gig types, without an epic rewiring project, is a huge benefit. Are all the effects in the Line6 unit as good as the individual pedals they replaced? Probably not, but the difference isn't anywhere near to negating the benefits of the HX Effects, and I doubt anyone listening would be able to tell the difference anyway!

[@steved1099]

I do think you can't beat a LOUD tube amp.. but FX wise I am all for modellers. After trying a few I landed on a GX100, and I now have all the sounds I personally need.

[@Wileylikethehawk]

I started playing guitar in the late 90s. When I bought my first whammy pedal I figured out a way to use it on six or seven of my band’s songs because I felt like it was so expensive I had to get the most use out of it. …If only I could see my future self having an entire lexicon rack in my system for 30 seconds of one song.

[@robertmitchell2178]

The BOSS GT-1 has been the best effects, amp and speaker pedal I have invested in. One needs to understand signal chain and spend the time to program it, or any multi effects unit. Great video!

[@narrowonflow]

That synth patch was so sick🤩

[@DrBadLlama]

I have an hx stomp on my board - it comes after other drives and before delay and reverb - I use it for a couple more drives and modulation. I also like it on there as a failsafe all in one or back up amps if needed.

[@alexmbrenner]

I got my HX Effects used for $350, it’s fantastic and I use it for my studio board. I own probably 85 pedals and still use analog pedals as well. Financially multi-effects make a lot more sense, two delay pedals could easily cost me the price I paid for the HX. Great video as usual!

[@myhapylife]

Man that synth sound... imo best demo of h90 poly synth.

[@yikelu]

I've been back and forth multiple times on this account. Context matters a bunch. For live use, I value portability, one-touch-switching, and editability. I experimented with several setups and I think the one I like best is just a plain Helix. The ability to edit with the capacitive touch switches while retaining "gig" view with the scribble strips is crazy helpful. Then the two modes -- I use 4 snap + 4 stomp as mode "A", and 10 stomp as mode "B", with the extra stomps in "B" as less used FX and behind the scenes param changes (high/low cut for example). For time based FX I only use a limited subset of Helix and for drive FX, I use a wide variety of both amps and pedals (internal to Helix). In this context, I think a traditional board controlled with a loop switcher still makes a lot of sense, although it always bothered me that the loop switchers took up so much board real estate. For me personally though, I missed the different styles of amps I could play with. For studio/creative exploration use, that's where I'd try to explore way more of the scope of a multi-FX. In fact I'm likely going to put together a board with HX Stomp + H90 and/or a big Meris pedal for that. The idea being to let the HX Stomp mostly be a drive section and base layer, with the H90 and Meris stuff being the features. Of course there's a danger of writing really cool material with this board and suddenly wanting to gig it!

[@timchalmers1700]

I got an M5 a few months ago. It has 108 different pedals in it. If I need something on short notice I can get close if not bang on. There are 24 preset slots. There are 6 categories: Overdrives (includes Boosts/Compressors), Delays, Modulations, Filters, Reverbs. 24/6=4. but I don't need 4 Filters, so the first 6 presets are overdrives & comps, the next 5 are delays, then modulations, then a filter, then 5 reverbs. I keep practicing thru my presets so that I get comfortable with each one. And occasionally I go thru the whole list to see if I'm overlooking something I might need.

[@StephaneBergeronPixelyzed]

My current main rig is the Helix floor. I have a small board on the side with a tuner (always active) and 2 analog compressors ('m very finicky about compressors and that's an always on thing for me). For clean tones, the Wampler Ego 76 has replace the regular Ego comp for me. Not exactly transparent but much mopre so than the regular Ego. The second one is a Mini Ego comp I use only for certain lead tones. It has a volume boost and adds lots of sustain. It's natural "thumpiness" is much less apparent on higher gain tones (all my presets use 2 amps, one for clean, one for gain). Other than that, everything else is all Helix (mod, delays reverbs, EQs + specific effects for certain songs (Twin Harmony for exemple). On my "analog" board connected in 4 CM with my Revv Dynamis 7-40 2 channels tube head, I've use the HX FX for even longer than I've had the Helix floor. On there, I also have the Wampler comps + 2 analog drives (the Revv G2 and G4). Most of the time, I'll use the amp's gain channel as it's very flexible with 3 "Dynamics" levels varying gain and voicing (similar to Revv's Aggression switches on their flagship Generator amps. The Dynamis 7-40 is my holy grail amp that finally gives me the tones I had in my head for many years. Got it in October 2021. The HXFX is the main controller of that rig (the Dynamis has midi which controls several of its features including channel switching and more). I loved the HXFX from the get go and a lot of the same effects are used in it like in my Helix floor as it's used to play the same material (either our own originals in a neo-prog style or our Marillion 80s era tribute project). But I admit that now I'm kind of addicted to the cleanliness of the Helix floor and having everything stereo. With the Dynamis, time based effects are in the loop including mod but int he Helix, they all live after the cabs/IRs so it's a different thing. The HXFX is the best multieffects I ever used. In recent years, I also played with a Boss MS-3 which the HXFX replaced in early 2022. I'd used that MS-3 for a few years. Before that in my older rig (tied with my old Fender red knbs Twin), I used a Korg A3 and, before that early in the 90s, I used an Art mult-ieffect unit whose model name I cannot remember. Before that I had a board full of Boss pedals as many others did at the time. It failed way too often at the worst moment ;) That's the thing with multi-effects and modern rigs, they are far more reliable than what I started with in the 80s ;). So, ther than drives and comps, I'm in no rush to start having a board with all separate pedals again. I prefer the multi-effects route.

[@DarrellW_UK]

I got my hands on a fairly inexpensive Sonicake Matribox and was 🤯, what it did was mind blowing! Like most of them the presets were overdone particularly with the amount of reverb. Turn the reverb down on most of the presets and it’s really well useable. Best money I’ve spent for a long while!

[@zoomzoom3950]

I've been using HX-Effects for a few years; I have an H9 but I use it with keys; an H90 is on my buy list, but I have a SY-1000 and SY-300. I try to keep my rigs as simple as possible; MFX, modelers and computer software rigs do that for me.

[@ikbogle]

I’ve thought about swapping my Carbon Copy Deluxe and Boss Dd-5 for a timeline to benefit from presets but honestly I can get so much out of these two, I know them very well and tweak them on the fly, there both setup in a looper to receive tempo so can do rhythmical stuff. Other than that I settled on a Wampler terraform to consolidate my growing modulation needs and it’s been great, of the 10 or so Fx I use 8.

[@andrewchristie6483]

I guess there are 3 types:- 1. Full multi fx, no physical amp 2. Full individual pedal board into physical amp 3. Pedal board with assisted multi fx physical amp I’m generalising, yes I know, but you’re kinda talking about those in camp 3. Real estate AND power supply are considerations. Some of those mfx units draw a lot of power as well as some straight digital pedals. I’m in camp 2 but would consider something like an HX One to handle tuner and effects I wouldn’t use too often.

[@tonedowne]

I am no1. I do have a really nice individual pedal board, but I generally only use it in the studio. Having the full on switching presets on stage with all fx going off the same tap tempo, and no moving parts like cables and psu and velcro, makes the modeller a no brainer. Has to be into an actual amp though.

[@CameraLaw]

As a beginner four years ago, I started with a modeling amp (Mustang GTX50). This year got a tube amp (George Benson Hot Rod Deluxe) and was hankering for a lot of effects and purchased a Boss ME-90. All of these choices were in the moderate price range and there’s so many ways to go.

[@paulandreas7955]

Walrus Canvas tuner - walrus mira - dream 65 - hx stomp and a strymon ojai. I can do everything with that.

[@williekenk]

Your point on the pricing is valid, but that's the H90. That pedal costs too much to justify unless you're really using it for a lot of things. But with the HX One selling for $200-250... that makes sense. It only takes using it for two effects for it to make sense.

[@dscataglini]

I agree with @andrewdempsey5312. A multifx helps you discover your sound. Also, even once you settle on the same "pedalboard' the ability to have different settings on the same fx for different songs, and being able to recall that is invaluable. Your choice of pedal/amps/fx differ also by band/genre. I had a band where all of my presets were marshall based. If I was to introduce a different highgain amp like a mesa boogie, at the same loudness level, it would disappear in the mix, because the rest of the band would eat up all of my frequencies. A multifx can help with that too.

[@edlib02169]

I’ve played with all the chorus patches in my HXFX… but I keep going back to my 30+ year old Boss CE-3. I don’t know why. The choruses in the HX sound great… and some of them have loads of options… but that single physical pedal sucks me back in as soon as I patch it. I don’t own any reverbs or delays that don’t live in a rack… so having a wide selection of those options at my feet are worth the price of the HX. But I do go back and forth on the question.

[@alguitarchristie]

The Mobius is great. I use it for Phase, Flanger, Chorus, Vibrato, Univibe, Leslie and tremolo. Pre and post effects return! Love it.

[@mickeygiesbers8176]

I've been using my H9 for about 10 years now, even when I was using my full Helix floor, I still used my H9 with it. Because I love the effects in it. I think it's a very personal matter, everyone is different in that way of course.

[@kenphillips3282]

Great sounds in the intro John, are they the H90 and do you have that patch available on your patreon? I love it!

[@picksalot1]

I switched to using Modelers long ago. The have retired all my stand alone Effect Pedals, except my Looper. When my Looper Pedal died, I started using a Software Looper. This is because the HX Stomp doesn't have "auto-sensing" to start recording when I start playing, and the HX Stomp is usually sitting on my desk.

[@sonofdirt]

What software looper do you use?

[@picksalot1]

@@sonofdirt I use "Mobius Looper" which runs on Windows 10 even though the Software is no longer supported or maintained. If you decide to use, I can tell you how to set up "auto-sensing" to save you some time and effort. The Looper is available from Circular Labs, and is described as "Mobius is software for the real-time creation of audio loops. It was inspired by the venerable hardware loopers of the past, but moves beyond them in many powerful and exciting ways. You can think of Mobius as 8 synchronized stereo loopers that can be used in any combination with extensive MIDI and computer keyboard control. Loops may be saved to and loaded from files. A powerful scripting language allows you to create macros or customize Mobius to support your unique style of performance."

[@dsm1573]

The H90 is a beast, but the only way to get your $$ worth in a live situation with other effects in your chain is to use a midi controller like the MC6 Pro.

[@nikolaki]

Lower tier gear user here. I got my Zoom G3n shortly after it was released from a chap that had incorporated it into his board for reverbs, delays and modulation. He struggled to use and replaced it with a few stomp pedals. The Zoom G3n was my everything pedal for many years and I use a G3Xn I keep at church instead. Again purchased used for a paltry sum. I have two pedalboards at home and a range of stomp pedals I put on the them. One of them actually has my Zoom G3n paired with a Harley Benton GPA100. Whilst I have a lot of fun with the dedicated stomp pedals at home, playing out with the pedalboard is too much of a faff for me and the Zoom G3n plugged into the power amp in of an amp is less noisy, more controllable and convenient.

[@primaballerina84]

Multi FX is perfect for me! I use my old AX8 in 4CM +midi with my Engl E570, I sometimes adding an extra Drive pedal like the Folkesson Raptor but the AX8 is good enough most of the time. Don't care about small algorithm differences between certain original delay racks etc. My rig is definitely better than my guitar skills 😅

[@jayK7347]

I run an H90 into my Stomp but my approach might be a little different. I believe in multiple drives, multiple verbs and multiple delays. I don't always run any of those options from my Stomp although I'll blend some options from the H90 to a Halo or Big Sky. To me it's all really an exercise in blending/layering to get the sounds I'm looking for when I play in a church setting. I do find a lot of useable options though in the Eventide and Helix pedals using a fairly regular rotation of about thirty for the former and about 60 for the later.

[@trickfall8752]

Once I'm using a digital pedal I have a hard time thinking of a reason to use a single purpose one over something like an H90 or HX Stomp. My home board is Rat - H90 and ToneX. Super powerful and fun.

[@HansNederland]

haha, I have an ANALOG multi-FX: Electro-Harmonix The Worm! Sounds great, has a lot of funny things like turning a knob for function A, also infulences B (feels very organic). No, it is not very flexible and the effects are weak (3-stage phaser for instance).

[@kenphillips3282]

I struggle with the world of multi units, I have the H90, a stomp and a Quad Cortex… BUT, I can’t move away from my single pedal pedalboards because I love my Unobtainium and being able to tweak any effect on the fly has been a lifesaver. Absolutely, playing live, I have to be comfortable with everything and able to make an instant change… oh the dilemma!!! 🤣

[@ChristopherDowning]

I think there's no doubt that good effects pedals produce some awesome tones. But that's more for the studio, home recording, and perhaps solo work. But as soon as you are playing gigs then really the average audience can't tell the difference between a really good £200 pedal and a £20 one. And that is where multi-effects kick in. It's so much easier to have one big, integrated box on the floor, than a huge pedal board with £1000 worth of pedals. The Helix Stomp does the job every time - or a Boss GX100. I've done lugging a DLR around with pedals - about 50 lbs. I'm now on live gigs with a DV Mark Raw Dawg (18lb speaker and 4 lb amp) and a Helix Stomp XL ( 3lb ). Get paid ok and nobody asks for the valve+pedals rig.

[@girotn9065]

I think you might need something similar to the JOYO PXL8 Foot Pedal Controller. True bypass all that A/D/A conversion when necessary and you could also do stereo by using multiple ports per device.

[@knmoves]

Zoom 4040, many years old, but love it. I’ve got two!

[@trentwaterman7049]

For me - my H9 plays the roll of my second delay; big ambient reverbs and any effect such as phaser flanger etc. Most of the time I'm not using any of those effects though so I can have a small board and whack a h9 on there - if I need it can tackle pretty much any effect I might need for any given song - without needing a massive board.

[@toddcarroll2703]

Korg G3 Guitar Performance Processor MultiFX was great in the 1990s.

[@BillySoundFarm]

It's true, most guys are not using all of the Buffalo when it comes to multi-effects. But that doesn't mean it's not valuable for it all to be there. You never know when you're going to go down a rabbit hole. For instance, I went on a cruise recently and saw a guy using a Looper pedal, so I got into using a Looper pedal, but I didn't have to buy one because there's one in my HX stomp and another one in my hxfx and another one in my kemper. For each of those I have a whole new breed of patches for toggling acoustic Sims with electric guitar sounds, toggling acoustic patches with distortions paired with IRS to make electric sounds. Also a multi-effects is super helpful with experimenting with sounds, you can a b stuff in ways that are very difficult with single-use and analog pedals.

[@pauljohnston1560]

You see, those chord voicing’s are just gorgeous all over the neck, if you ever get tired of legato, feel free to dumb it down for some of us mortals 😝😝😝

[@Francis23777]

I’ve always believed in hybrids, multi effects are practical, but many effects lack depth in some effects, so pedals are a necessity in the echo system of great sounding guitar. My individual pedals cut like a knife in a way with all respect not even fractal can touch them.

[@25dbz-ot9br]

In the 90’s I was a board guy. Had 2 of em. Had one for touring and artist gigs and a small one for clubs. Bought a Boss GT 3. Last multi built by boss that had analog distortion and digital everything else. Slowly I started using it with a wah for every gig. Took about 2 years. In the early 2k’s, the pedalboard game was different, and the GT 3 fixed every problem and just killed. I used it at every gig from about 2001 til I bought my Helix 7 years ago. I’m a multi guy all the way.

[@Robguitarjarvis]

This pedal is absolutely awesome and 100% a keeper. But I have too many others to really explore thoroughly. It’s staying with me though simply because it’s just incredible. We are truly living in an era now where fx are so amazing that people are a little spoiled. When i started out in 78 i considered myself lucky to have a Shin-ei fuzz. To conclude I’d say it’s always great to more options even if you do generally use it for just one or two things and Eventide deliver a world class choice.

[@onlyusernameleft2]

I went through a couple different multieffects/modellers recently. One did effects really well but the models were mediocre. Another had passable models but the effects sounded cheap and digital. I tried standalone modellers and didn't care for them either. The HX Stomp is the first one that has it all. I use it just like I would an amp- dirt pedals in front, wet effects in the loop- that can live on my pedalboard.

[@0TheRain0]

The H90 is deceptively powerful because many of the effects are actually combinations of effects. So even though you have only two algorithms, depending on what you're using you may have as many as 6 or so effects at your disposal. I think this lends it more to being used for a "sound result" than to think about it in terms of what effects you can have running at once. More like, what is the sound result that can be achieved with the two slots you have. I think the disappointing thing about the H90 is that it really mostly fits in a workflow where you're augmenting something else with it... and it doesn't have USB audio so that something else can't as easily be your home DAW and plugins. It really belongs on a pedalboard because it doesn't have amp modeling, it doesn't have a headphone jack. There's really a lack of post/pre audio utilities like an eq or compressor that doesn't take up one of those two slots.

[@johnnyrenfield]

I can get a heavier sound with my pedal board going into my neve di than micing amps.. but I also though to the amp and two track record so..

[@MrIantodd]

Can you get those kinds of sounds out a HX Stomp?

[@bennettskb555]

Essential for me👍

[@psc502]

I don't see why The HX stump Just can't do everything for you I see all these people with these boards and they have like three Drive pedals In an atex stomp and I'm like wait a second those Drive pedals are in the stall Why not just make your board smaller There's a phaser There's a tremlow There's really good pitch shifting There's multiple reverbs multiple delays I just think That it can be an all-in-one unit And it's not the only brand that has a unit that should be an all-in-one unit and yet people keep Putting on the same effect that is actually modeled in the modeler On their board I don't get it To me maybe you want a tonex like I've got For the amp tone But all the effects I need Or either in my head Rush Or my HX stomp

[@ogmakefirefiregood]

I gave an Eventide H90. Which senth were you using?

[@justice100forwin2]

I think a lot of the thoughts John has are thoughts very few people have the money or amount of free stuff sent to them , to have! Plus he gets regular REAL LIFE GIGS!!!!! Remember those... 🤣😂 Just kidding John love to listen to your playing and your musings ❤

[@davidmaki6960]

Don't forget Roland was way ahead of the whole game with the VG8, VG88, and VG99. Still amazing units.

[@user-jy3io4iz2p]

A multi is nice for mod and time based fx (fx loop). For od,ds,fz I like analog pedals better so far.

[@michaelschneider7590]

Seems much better suited to Pat Metheny’s tones than the Allman Brothers’ or Clapton’s. Not a “right or wrong” matter, but a question of what you’re seeking to create.

[@erinmylungs8711]

Please release one long ass video that’s just a compilation of all your intro solos 🙏🏻🙂

[@charliepriceqc6604]

Maybe you have too many toys to choose from. Maybe choose one multi FX and go with that. Maybe.

[@KozmykJ]

Uncle Larry uses an M9, not an M5, doesn't he ?

[@jjbs58]

Looks like John is trying to justify the H90 for his world... and not only would I say ABSOLUTELY as it really complements his style of playing but I would also tell him to get a H9 Max as well... as they are really great sounding pedals, and once connected you can loop them in together with yet other pedals. . . . - #StateOfTheArtsound

[@intenzityd3181]

I play keys along with guitar live and the guitar synths rarely sound convincing, a cheap korg will do the same thing so much better and keys aren't hard to learn.

[@joeurbanowski321]

Cool sounds that I expect from keyboards.. but not a guitar.. To each his own..

[@lassekalhauge4801]

Digital multi fx for guitar are essential- especially if you only play/produce music from home😊

[@ryanvergara3603]

I have been using a Line6 HD500X since 2012 and in terms of return-of-investment, it is great acquisition considering the price I paid for it. It has supported my income and stood the test of time, and can cover all genres in my repertoire.

[@tsachou]

always some great contents , but that's one ugly guitar 🎸

[@jahstafari4606]

Well it aint worth nothing to me ..i play only acoustic .....was into production and effects 20 years ago then i realised duriing recording my playing is bad or went bad during few years of learning DAWs and programing so i ditched it all to get back to basics ...nothing can stop a acoustic man no electricita shortage you have speakers integrated and sound ...rst is up to you ....who no like it natural can go listen digital pink popilusions and loud noise ....i'm not missing all that equipment at all

[@ChristopherDowning]

Sounds like every Bluegrass player I've ever met! When I'm playing that stuff nobody's looking for anything but good guitars, good playing, and good singers. Sometimes there's a mic in front of the whole band!

[@jahstafari4606]

@@ChristopherDowning i quit listening any music from 2008 to 2018-19 just to find my own music and forget about everything i knew ....i feel kinda stupid for not knowing what bluegrass is exactly ...i'm prrety satysfyd with what i recorded today out of first take some sketch of song i made in my head withou any equipment bcs i was not using any for10 years so i hade to make studio in my own head and remember all the parts of all instruments of all songs i made ...now i'm just pulling it out if can remember if not i make new 😅 i'm recording all instrument parts separetly onto their own channels ...i'm using built in pc laptop mic and ASIO for all ...nothing else .....and trial version of FL 😅 have a good day