Are new Colt AR15's Junk?

[@jasonfite397]

I own a few Colt Ar15 rifles and evey one has been completely reliable.I would trust my life with any one of them.

[@memirandawong]

Damn right! I have a few different AR's but the M4A1 my favorite!

[@RickyJohnson-nt1km]

You wouldn't new colts or cheap parts from.any maker nit true colt 6920le defense tcp mitlary spc best of best defense not new cr bar codes ones m4 colts 6920le mitlary spec same as full ones quality only true pony's or real.all marked parts not same new or made by who nos range beaters only

[@hairydogstail]

Colt still follows the TDP other than full auto parts and inspects/test all parts like they always have.. Every drill procedure is checked with pin gauges..Every Colt I have put on my bench has passed my gauges. I can't say that for any other manufactured AR rifle I have tested..The TDP is owned by Colt and they hold their rifles to it..A lot of bad information about Colt AR rifles these days based on bs..

[@The11eleven]

Can you provide any actual knowledge on the barrel manufactures? Is the R designation for Rosco? A? I?

[@hairydogstail]

It is irrelevant who Colt subcontracts with..All parts (including subcontracted parts) are obtained through DOD approved manufacturers and are verified material TDP required spec through Colts lab..Colt barrels have to be pushed buttoned, not pulled..Colt receiver extensions have to be machined forged, not extruded, etc, etc..@@The11eleven

[@davidschaadt3460]

I had two Colt preban AR's and made a good profit in the 90's when I sold them. But I so regret getting rid of them.I have some clones now ,but I still want to get another Colt.

[@andrewjohnson6907]

They may outsource parts, but from the 2 Colt barrels I built rifles around, they are top notch in accuracy. Theres nothing wrong with new Colt. Its fine.

[@memirandawong]

M4A1 SOCOM...my favorite of my AR collection from Colt. ALL from Colt dating back to 1988!!

[@B-G556]

Just purchased a Colt Carbine…. Wanted a gun that’s gonna outlive me

[@blankeny]

I've got a Colt H-bar circa 1995, and that rifle is proven out to 550yards+. Find me an out of box rifle in 5.56 that comes even close and I'll give you a cigar!!!

[@memirandawong]

I won first place in a national competition with mine! Open sights 30 yards. Standing. AR-15 H-bar!!! Still have that beast!!!

[@jpduder13]

Colt started outsourcing components quite some time ago. The last time I believe everything was all Colt was with the LE restricted roll mark models. Look up the square, keyhole and other forge marks. Different manufacturers. I have both the M4A1 socom with 13629 cage code and I have an early LE6920 with keyhole forge and cmp stamped barrel. My socom appears to be built better but they shoot the same. I agree they are both quality rifles that will last a lifetime.

[@TheMilsurpMan]

You're absolutely correct sir! Thanks for watching!

[@hairydogstail]

Colt has always outsourced parts..

[@jpduder13]

@@hairydogstail not to the degree they are now. Of course some components have always been outsourced. But I believe the majority of parts were made by Colt. Barrel, upper and lower receiver, etc.

[@hairydogstail]

@@jpduder13 Not true. Colt always outsourced parts including barrels, bolts, etc. Of the 125 to 150 parts in the M-16 and M-16 type platforms, Colt only made 18 parts in house and also out sourced many of them when needed.. Go to page 229 in the Black Rifle book to get the in-house manufactured parts..All parts used today by Colt still go through the testing and metallurgy testing process in their own lab..Most AR manufacturers today actually receive components from the same parts manufactures..What separates Colt rifles is Colt will only accept DOD tested and approved parts from bin one which cost considerably more than the lessor quality parts sold from bin 2 through 6..

[@DutchK75]

There's a .mil., .gov supplier for all of the parts. And Colt sourced from them as well. Schmid Tool has always supplied the lower parts. Wilson Armament supplied barrels. The people who do the chrome lining are right down the street from Colt. They have used a lot of vendors.

[@victoria19853]

The people who say colt sucks are the people who are hating on the person who has the Colt because they don’t have a Colt.

[@seijiroukikuoka5975]

Or maybe we're just smarter and more patriotic than the pathetic lot of you who like to pay for companies who want your freedom stripped. Like your mom.

[@naposthecavalierkingcharles]

Yep. My 6920 - made in 2018 - has never had a malfunction of any kind in 3,000 rounds. From round one. Unlike my Ruger AR556, which came too tight and had many jams in the first 200 rounds.

[@chrispewkreme]

I have a colt. It’s pretty pathetic how bad the quality is. Rifles I prefer: Daniel Defense, BCM, Geissele, PSA, and Springfield Armory. When PSA makes higher quality rifles than colt, you know something’s not right.

[@victoria19853]

@@chrispewkreme love Geissele but they are on the really expensive side of things like Daniel Defense. I recently purchased a Colt Ar and I don’t consider their quality pathetic or bad. Don’t know your circumstances and what you seen but that’s why you look at any firearm you’re purchasing before you buy it.

[@cjsteele9594]

The new ones are just as good, just bought one tonight.

[@EarlCorgi]

I’ve bought three Colts in the last couple years. One of their M16A4 clones, an M4A1 clone and an OEM2 to do a build around. Of the three rifles I’ve only changed parts for aftermarket parts on the OEM2 and only because I bought it from beginning to upgrade. All of them have performed well with stock parts. All three rifles have performed as reliably as any Colt the military issued me. Fit and finish was superior to most of the other brands of AR’s I’ve bought over the years. I’d have no problem whatsoever trusting my life to any of these rifles.

[@fishinforfun3359]

I’ve been very happy with my 2021 colt. Tightly built, shoots good groups, surprisingly not that over gassed despite the inch carbine gas. I’m pretty happy. Mine had a recalled trigger, so I just made it simple and through in a geissle trigger. Love that rifle

[@TXDYNA]

I have a 2022 Colt. Ive replaced the CH , trigger , buffer tube spring and muzzle device all by my choice. It ran just fine with the stock parts.

[@ninjaturtlesrawk5415]

I have a feeling cz isn't seeing the numbers they want by them continuing to sell these with outsourced parts. would be smart for them to bring back at least the roll marks. if I recall hearing they actually don't make really any of there parts. barrels are marked with either a I or R ( first letter of the actual manufacture, can't remember the I but the R was Roscoe barrels..) its also been reported there lower parts aren't in house either. don't get me wrong I'm sure they are still great rifles but there are only 2 people who are buying colts really older people who grew up with colt being the brand to get and cloners. and I really don't think cloners are buying this stuff much.

[@ericohop5704]

Outsourced they are

[@jimbo9357]

I have a Colt LE6920 got it at Walmart in 2013. Glad to have it. I put a 14.7 in FN barrel, ACOG, Matech, Knights rail and vertical hand grip on it. Close to M4.

[@dalejulian989]

Colt 6929s are m4s its literally stamped on it

[@memirandawong]

WaLMART! Yay!!!

[@Gh0sX]

Besides you pronouncing Carbine correctly, couldn't be more correct on quality control! Great vid

[@P46345]

I bought my first Colt in 2010, an LE6920 that is marked Law Enforcement Carbine, I also got an Aimpoint Comp M4 put it on and zeroed it once and only once. A few years later I bought a Colt LE901-16 marked Colt Modular Carbine when they first came out, I decided to put my Aimpoint on the LE901 and figured I'd have to rezero the sight, I was wrong. This Aimpoint went from one Colt rifle to another and at 100 yards I've only zeroed it once in 2010. ;-)

[@davidhetherington5529]

I have two Colt M4's. A 2009 6940, and a 2019 M4A1 Socom. Ive not ever had one problem out of my Colts. Im still impressed with how they eject the brass in a nice little pile. I had two Daniel Defense M4's (still own one) and both went back to DD because the bolts would not lock back. Just saying!

[@michaelmarkle5133]

They're great. Accurate, reliable.

[@irakennington9701]

I own one of the new 6920 EPR's. It's hands down the best of the half dozen AR's I have owned in my life. If there was a time that Colt had QC issues I don't know about it. I would take a chance on another Colt in a heartbeat.

[@desertsoldier41]

I just purchased a 3/24 date stamped us gov property marked Colt SOCOM. I have the C mark on the bolt carrier and MPC mark on the bolt. No CAGE code on upper receiver though. CAGE code however is on the barrel

[@jims512]

I bought an LE6920 NIB (factory furniture not Magpul) for $830 in 2015.

[@naposthecavalierkingcharles]

Yep. I got the grey magpul one in 2018 for $890. Has never malfunctioned in 3,000 rounds. Perfect from round 1

[@M81_WOODLAND]

I have a post-CZ Colt 6920. The reliability and groupings I can put up would suggest this carbine is anything BUT junk. Matter of fact, quite the opposite. I trust my life to this carbine, no question.

[@bentheenigma1913]

My colt cr6920 is a fine rifle I bought on sale $1158 with tax out the door. It has a colt cage code “13629” on the upper. Wanted a rifle that worked and it seems that’s what I got. And with the world as it is now you can’t ask for much more than that.

[@beltrik3766]

I noticed some parts have 13629 on it and some dont does that mean the non 13629 components are not mil spec and not test to the colt QC?

[@bentheenigma1913]

@@beltrik3766 they are all “mil spec” by virtue of them fitting together and from what I understand the have a QC inspection before they leave the factory so I don’t think anyone has anything to worry about

[@naposthecavalierkingcharles]

They were $890 with the special magpie furniture in 2018.

[@18echo]

I proudly own several sp1 prefix ,a couple of cmh, a pair of le 6920 one crx 16 and one crx 18 from bold ideas Texas , just got a pair of the new cr prefixes and to tell you the truth they are good to go ,even with all the outsourced parts including the rosco barrels , the only thing I miss is the old Colt stamping , on a good day with decent ammo and without the sling they are capable of printing under 2.5-3 moa at 100 yards, and yes I’m a Colt fan boy since 1982.

[@rickypickles2219]

I feel like daniel defense was the upgraded version of colt. Still kinda acts like that today. I never owner a colt but i kinda want an oldschool one. I have a couple daniel defense and theyre fantastic

[@zipper978]

DD is overpriced hype. They charge way too much for what they offer. Colt is battle tested

[@kawikadee9670]

Yes the old one are strong and solid and the new ones are shaky and loose feeling.

[@hairydogstail]

They are both made to the same TDP specs, no difference..

[@kawikadee9670]

@@hairydogstailI recently went to the gun store and noticed that the newer ones are cheaper and shaky, it was newer than the one you have.

[@hairydogstail]

I have the older and newer CR versions.. Colt is still building their rifles with the same TDP military spec most AR rifle manufacturers can not pass..The fit between the upper and lower is not any concern as long as it is within tolerances..A snug fitting upper and lower is nice but has no relation to reliability and function..Colt rifles are not cheap, but the standard others are measured..There is a lot of b.s. being spread on the interweb about what mill spec and mil spec parts are, most don't have a clue..Only the highest DOD parts are put into Colt..That said, poor QC can slip through from any manufacturer and does.. @@kawikadee9670

[@wvdave771]

​@@hairydogstailthen why the lack of proof marks , my bolt carrier group is devoid of all markings , notta , zilch

[@hairydogstail]

Different contracts require different markings..Look closer, the carrier should have a c electric penciled on the side..They can be hard to see..@@wvdave771

[@THEPAGUNGUY]

My 2022 M4A1 does not have the cage code on the upper. It’s marked every where else just not the upper. But it is T marked and well you seen my A4 I just got marked carbine but that’s marked 13629 on everything even the buffer tube. 💁‍♂️ idk I went to colt in 22 and haven’t looked back. They still are a military contractor

[@juansgotguns_9079]

Same here upper is does not have a cage code. But everything else has cage codes.

[@beltrik3766]

@@juansgotguns_9079does that mean non 13629 parts are not mil spec and not tested to colts QC?

[@juansgotguns_9079]

@@beltrik3766 not necessarily, because even in the military there’s been pictures with uppers with no cage codes

[@beltrik3766]

@@juansgotguns_9079 so then everything is test to colts QC as far as stamping goes its just hit or miss

[@juansgotguns_9079]

@@beltrik3766 yeah just the stamps are hit or miss. You will have a cage coded barrel and C marked/Mpc bolt carrier group

[@mcb2757]

Colt's are the gold standard. Even the new ones. Anyone who says a Colt rifle is junk (new or old) shouldn't be allowed to speak publicly because they are maliciously misleading people. By the way may want to consider taking that ugly-a** magpul hg off of that 2013 that is a sin. Stocks I don't blame you. No offense.

[@TheMilsurpMan]

To each their own. If we all liked the same thing it would he a boring world wouldn't it?

[@Terrapinneck1]

My Colt M4 has a little lower serial # than yours and Colt shows it to be built in 2013. However the furniture is Blackhawk... Was Blackhawk a factory application like Magpul or aftermarket ? Thanks

[@TheMilsurpMan]

Colt used a mixture of different furniture and parts during that time. There was a few different variants of the 6920. I've seen some with Blackhawk stuff and others with milspec furniture and Roger's super stocks.

[@WiIdbiII]

Just my theory here. People who get paid by competitors of Colt spread these rumors of Colt being an inferior product.

[@Poopingcricket]

Both of my issued colt m4’s in the Army had a lot of wobble… people who complain about that are complaining about nothing. It’s part of the government “charm” or somethin

[@ar-15techtipsinunder5minut8]

2 Beautiful Rifles !!!

[@deedeewhipple4668]

Do you know if you can purchase a Cage 13629 small parts kit?

[@hansblitz7770]

Living on 2006 reputation. Not bad, not great. Other companies have successfully made the same or better and have been for a long time.

[@richardmeredith69]

I used a 2020 Colt M4 for duty it works perfectly

[@Free_entertainment401]

I just pick up my colt ar15a4. I have no idea about there Cage code. I always thought that it would be a “ C “ I quickly learn about just be google and looking up videos. All my lower parts are made by Colt, my barrel, BCG is colt but my upper receiver is not colt . There is no marking only the Square from the forging. My rifle has a mixture of Cage code and “ C “ markings. But I still love my Colt AR15A4

[@Exl6243]

Eh, it's not that Colt's are junk, it's just that the standard has been raised. A Colt AR15 is built to the TDP, which means it needs to cycle reliably and shoot at a minimum 4 MOA. That typically means that they're overgassed and comfortable for 300 yard shots. Also, for 14.5 and 16 inch barrels, they use carbine gas systems with Front Sight Posts and aren't free floated. If you try to put a bipod on the handguard, pressure will push the barrel up. Compare that to a modern AR: typically the accuracy is tighter. With a free float barrel, at minimum, you expect a 2 MOA group or less. With a 14.5 barrel, you can expect a mid length gas system that provides less recoil. Finally, if you get a free float handguard, you can expect a lot of rail space to add accessories to push further up front. It just depends on what you're looking for: if you're just looking for a reliable weapon that can shoot out to 500 yards on a torso (4 MOA = 20 inches, about chest size at 500 yards), Colt absolutely works. If you want extra items like: lower recoil, increased hit probability out to distance, shooting with a bipod, add additional items, then go for a higher tier rifle.

[@zipper978]

Colts are not 4 moa 😂. Not even close my guy. They can land man sized targets at 600 meters all day long

[@cadamsm11]

Good Video. I’ve tended to build my own AR’s, but would like to get a Colt, “just because.” My local has the M4, but it’s just labeled ‘Carbine 5.56.’ Retail is $1099 plus 10% off at my store. Thoughts?

[@TheMilsurpMan]

I would check to see what all parts have the "13629" cage code. If the upper receiver has it. Then I'd see no reason not to get it. They are excellent rifles!

[@naposthecavalierkingcharles]

You should have bought a real colt 6920 as your first or second carbine by about 2015 at the latest.

[@WalterLitwinko]

Buy It they are about 1500.00 in my area.They are excellent guns.

[@IndependentArmz]

let my moon cut bolt slip off in a rifle a sold, non colt. Oops. Wish I still had it, it's what came in my colt. It was a semi auto but you don't see them. Collectable gone for nothin. Still have the rifle though.

[@chrispewkreme]

I have a LE6920 Colt. Quality is pretty damn rough to be honest. I’ve got a Springfield Saint that blows the Colt away in terms of quality. I’ve also got a Daniel Defense that’s nicer. I’d go with BCM and PSA before anything Colt. I just got the Colt as a trade for a P320. Didn’t know anything about out em. Figured it would be a good base for a SOPMOD Block II build.

[@retrowoohoo468]

Love Colt 1911 and for AR-15 they are hit or miss. With some modifications it becomes a functional rifle.

[@joshuakang4507]

And exactly what modifications do you have to make for a colt to be a functional rifle?

[@zipper978]

Colt makes the best ARs. The Gucci rifles are garbage made to rob you

[@Phantom8589]

I used the Colt Sopmod 1 and the Sopmod 2 URGI on my deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan fantastic weapons and they never jammed in combat ever. That said the new colts are a bit over priced. Colt needs to fire that Marine Gen that lost them the contract. The FN M4's(that replaced colt) suck they rust and jam a lot they are no where nearly as well made as the Colts. Wish the military had looked into the colt Piston it would have been the best option. DD mk18 are also some of the best guns you can get, my 2 cents.

[@koja6241]

Funny,I have the same identical 6920 and bought it about the same time lol

[@rockerdude8000]

My problem is the lower looks weird. The m4 profile barrel is stupid

[@isaactrujillo76]

People who own Daniel defense say colt sucks.

[@Michael-fh6lw]

" out sourced parts?" And thay is why it's now considered JUNK... have a 2012 6940, a Spikes Tactical M4LE and now a BCM Haley Jack....no need for another Colt...

[@TheMilsurpMan]

Not necessarily true. Lots of high end manufacturers use out sourced parts. There's only a few companies that make everything in house

[@Michael-fh6lw]

@TheMilsurpMan I was being sarcastic...the AR community always finds ways to nit pick a literal 70 year old design that multiple manufacturers can easily produce as if the TDP was some secretive soup recipe! If you've ever seen posting on M4C website - anything less than a DD or Larue or Noveske will apparently blow up in your hands!

[@Daniel-pk5vr]

I have the flat dark earth and yeah the wobble totally bothers me.

[@Nathan-zw7nq]

People who hate on colt are either stupid collectors who will never be happy with anything or people who don’t have one because it’s “old fashioned,” or they heard they’re outsourced now, or blah blah blah. I have a DD and I’m honestly disappointed with it. It’s violently overgassed, has a milspec trigger, and no iron sights out of the box for 2 grand. Wtf DD?! Where as the Colt’s are all properly gassed, all come with iron sights, and at around $900-$1,300 depending on the model. Sure it has a milspec trigger, but it’s far less expensive than the DD rifles. There is 0 excuse for Daniel Defense to not at least put a Larue MBT-2S trigger in their rifles. These rifle are as good as BCM but still a couple hundred bucks cheaper than that brand. Y’all should look into the Colt EPR, it’s a fantastic, modern rifle and for the price it is as good as a BCM but cheaper, and it is certainly cheaper than DD!

[@wvdave771]

I have a 90's HBAR Anda cr6920 , the 6920 is a Delton with a colt logo

[@sr25jd]

The older Colts are the ones looking for.. I’ve owned a couple of the newer ones and I can’t find anything in the performance.. I like the old roll marks .. soon has I can safely say up I’m buying the M4A1 .. Colts are a nice rifle for the money ..I’ve owned the Daniel Defense after shooting the DDM4 theirs no difference in Colts quality they both shot the same too many Of these companies charging you for the name… Now the LMT BEATS both Colt and Daniel Defense

[@jjung2005]

People I know hate Colt because their brand new ARs got scratches all over from the factory. I guess colt doesn't care.

[@spookyindeed]

The old one also did. Colt tests each of their rifle so they will have some signs of use.

[@JimJones762x39]

what kind of forward grip is on the black one?

[@jordanreynolds6802]

Looks like knights armament

[@nunyabeezwax1413]

There’s not a damn thing wrong with rosco barrels.

[@TheMilsurpMan]

Not at all in my opinion

[@Nathan-zw7nq]

Especially not roscoe barrels, they also provide barrels for the military. There are too many people on the internet talking about things they don’t know a damn thing about

[@douglasharp2278]

@@Nathan-zw7nq Absolutely true

[@xusmico187]

Old colts are good gear. When they made their parts in house. except starting with that cheap expanse with the fake FA they started to fail. When the contract was lost, they started to fail especially Gen Keys. Hope CZ can turn it around but it will TAKE YEARS.. NO MORE COLTS. Try and get to the shop. rings for long time, machine picks up and says closed for holidays be back Jan 2... that wa on 5/16/24

[@miniaturefarmer464]

They aren't any better than they were in the 80's and early 90's. Overpriced for what they are.

[@Quirky.Turtle69]

Good info here 👌

[@wvdave771]

I have a cr6920 , it's a Delton with a colt logo

[@philclodfelter5994]

Checks out Small Arms Solutions, he just had a video out on his Colt collection,

[@wvdave771]

It was a eye opener , I seen it , they are not military grade anymore

[@philclodfelter5994]

@@wvdave771 ya really bad that Colt has went to shit

[@countryfriedent]

@@wvdave771 what makes the cr6920 not mil spec anymore?

[@wvdave771]

@@countryfriedent I meant military grade

[@hairydogstail]

@@wvdave771Yes they are, Chris is wrong, they still follow the TDP

[@jayking1276]

Bro no …C…that like... Taking cool out of colt... Come on man...

[@RickyJohnson-nt1km]

Faxs if it has a bar code stamp cr serial number it's range gun not tcp lk org 6920le there or real mitlary spec tcp made in full auto line best made for a colt not new barcode s no difference Ruger deton dmps PSA sw etc quality is not there but a windam wep fit finish better then colt fn bcm new nuns even my DD I go to my ww they made great but that's the truth in new cheaper made no quality colts or not true colt if it's got a bar colt nother not colt parts if it has barcode cr serial number no way they uses any parts they save money I put my windam wep up again all these new colt fn etc much better fit finish on ww quality is there old school is best wobble on colts true not any in on windam wep

[@BNatoAk]

Ugh! Magpul on a colt 🤮

[@RickyJohnson-nt1km]

New cr colts or junk.nothi g colt 6920le defense tcp mitlary spc only real made pony all.civl colt or made cheap no quality windon weaponry makes better quality then any fn new colts to.

[@seijiroukikuoka5975]

Colt sucks. The fact that they hate civilian sales should prove it. But hey, simp away.

[@staplehead3]

You just learn that corporations are shitty or what?

[@xusmico187]

AND it is a carBINE not carBEAN

[@SB-ju8ki]

The colt markets this as LE but the serial and the box shows it to be CR. Both, however, are great M4 clones and both use third party parts, including the barrels, bolt carrier groups, etc.. The Colt LE prefix is a bit misleading, but as I said, both are very nice.

[@RayLahey]

Colt was the one all the others wish they were, maybe not today, but my 2013 configured le6920s are hands down absolute quality. I have a newer 13629 marked 6920 that seems good, granted I prefer my C marked older ones, but still quality. The same goes with other companies I have a couple bushys from Maine that are excellent quality, and we all know what happened after freedom group bought them. These are both beautiful rifles you have here, good to see.