Are Pyra And Mythra HIGH TIER Or TOP TIER - Smash Ultimate

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[@NoahHoi]

High tier or top tier, we can all agree that pyra side b is annoying asf

[@xaboltewolf9832]

Stop running into her than

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

Eh no. Its like one of both characters easiest to dodge move.

[@nile1790]

@@showmeyourmoves8551 how would you avoid it. usually by the time I can jump and get over it to get to them they’re rolling away

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

@@nile1790 the move is so slow, you can alrady see it in a mile before it can even came out.

[@Megggazap]

@@nile1790 That move is honestly not that hard to escape. Shield and punish. And if you are able to predict it you can punish her heavily as she can’t attack and can only shield.

[@blitzlander3477]

Top tier. There is like 20 top tiers… yea she’s top tier 100 percent

[@PK_Kaito99]

Almost 30 top tier tbh

[@TheCJTEdits]

Facts

[@NigelThrashner]

As a major XBC2 fan with infinity-billion hours played (hey, it’s been four years), I’m just happy to be here 🥸.

[@flavor_text8757]

Frame 10 isn’t really that bad as an out of shield options. Especially since mythra’s up b has a pretty big hitbox.

[@averagamer9222]

If I remember correctly, Mii Brawler's Soaring Axe Kick is also frame 10, with a range that surpasses Cloud's Up B.

[@flavor_text8757]

@@averagamer9222 Exactly

[@arshkumaran2680]

besides oos doesn't matter as much if you're a fast character and can dash in an out. Both greninja and joker don't have great oos either but joker is still top 3 and greninja is easily high high tier.

[@fupalover]

And that move lingers and it beats counters.

[@LiorRonen]

All of the people that were at summit except void said Pythra are top 3 in the game and most of them said they believe they are top 1. I belive that answered the question pretty clearly

[@JusRed48]

Also worth noting that Void plays Aegis himself and typically players who will say a character is worse than they actually are do happen to play them.

[@mathunit1]

@@JusRed48 It's funny how Esam is like the only one who sometimes overrates his main. lol

[@Simon-hs7ik]

@@mathunit1 maister said gnw beats min min

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

Pyra/mythra is easily top 5 character let alone a top tier. Only weakness is her recovery but that does not make cloud in smash 4 less of a top tier. Mythra's neutral is so oppressive. Tho oos is not their strenght, joker proves that a good neutral can compensate that.

[@CookieGal-]

The oos doesnt matter so much, at least for Mythra, because her speed, Foresight, frame data etc means she doesnt actually HAVE to shield very often. Not quite top 5 for me, but definitely close.

[@gravemind76]

Cloud in smash 4 had way more than that. Broke up air, down air and Nair their all huge and lingering hit box's that are very safe on shield on top of that infinite limit basically negated the "bad recovery" as if you try to camp him he will force approaches by charging limit which will remove his weakness and he will have a kill move on him at all times something pythra does not have with also give him the clutch factor. Idk why people compare them only because bad recovery with they are different but with that being said they are still top tier no doubt.

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

@@gravemind76I am just saying that having a mediocre revovery does not make mythra any less top tier just like cloud. The comparison stops there lol. there is no broken ass character in smash ultimate like bayonetta and cloud who were the only true suoer top tier in smash 4 so you cant compare cloud and mythra's entire kit.

[@showmeyourmoves8551]

@@CookieGal- who is your top 5 then?

[@gravemind76]

@@showmeyourmoves8551 true but ATM there's a lot of outrage with the character and I don't think she top 5 I feel a lot of people really don't know the match up and how to fight them due to them not taking wifi seriously or just not playing and the characters came out during the pandemic. they give me Roy vibes when they thought the characters was broke and in a few months counter play is made and she stays top 10 but not top 5 but that's just my opinion.

[@Alex_Dul]

If they had better recoveries, they would be busted honestly. They're top 7 imo.

[@guywithoutmustache4956]

you're dumb enough to think about that. "Her recovery is bad, she isn't top tier".

[@H4ri4n]

@@guywithoutmustache4956 Top 7 does not make a character bad and also how is this guy stupid? Their recoveries are generally just bad unlike most top tiers making pythra's recovery look very lackluster. Don't get me wrong I think they are top 5 but they have weaknesses and there's no reason to insult this guy.

[@diegoalejandroalvaradohern1270]

Im not suprised about a Pyra/Mythra video xD, I feel they are really good, but I'm more interested in a video about Diddy xD

[@erussell033russell2]

One thing I have to say is that people don't factor some of pyra's strengths as much as they should. She is a lot better in the range department, considering her side-B, longer moves, and higher launch power keeping people away. Not to mention her power is insane to the point where I have killed Mario at center stage with uncharged up-smash at 60% (it was on a stage with a high ceiling too).

[@atombomb2454]

One thing we don't want for this video is a bunch of people coming to shit on it because of opinions. They made a claim and backed it up with evidence and you don't need to agree with it.

[@Simon-hs7ik]

pyra has footstool dair up B as an OOS punish

[@bharadwajkk6823]

Tell you whats even more tier? The quality in the videos, especially the thumbnails. Your thumb nails are just _chefs kiss_

[@camusreviews6877]

Top 3 character Mythra’s out of shield isn’t even bad, foresight means that she can punish multihits for touching her shield, up-b has really good range, and up-smash is a frame 9 kill move. Mythra’s disadvantage is also really good in general since she has foresight, amazing air and fall speed, good landing aerials, etc even if her recovery sucks because her busted neutral means she isn’t even put in disadvantage often.

[@ultragamer8816]

Mythra has good combos with up tilt

[@massilyar341]

But falls flat on mixups with recovery. And just recovery all together

[@LiorRonen]

wdym "high or top tier" most top 20 pgr players think they are the best character in the game

[@BONKfrys]

Maybe we just wanna explain why for people who might not be on the same page?

[@andrewfeng7411]

Maybe some people aren’t as smart or don’t watch the comp scene so they wouldn’t know?

[@massilyar341]

Generally, aegis is top tier, but there are characters that can end them at their spot, we’ve already seen sonix do that on GOML, demolishing both mkleo and sparg0, and winning the whole major

[@dimitrimoisiades7292]

I'm no top player but I know that the Pyra/Mythra match up I am definitely going Min Min to abuse their poor disadvantage. However Mythra worries me. Not only can her fast speed overwhelm my mains but it could just be my luck but Foresight is actually busted. Oh you got a hard read on me? I guess I'm gonna get hit by your strong move and lose, haha sike

[@massilyar341]

I’m using sonic to beat pyra and mythra. His speed and insane ledge guard tactics can put an end to them because of their poor recovery. Aegis mains shouldn’t get away with having poor recoveries

[@BrianEX2023]

Make next is Sephiroth hight tier or top tier

[@brutal_lui]

When you compared her to Fox I thought of MK. Also she is top tier but like top 5 not 3. Also MK Mythra goes even. *MK B META*

[@BONKfrys]

It’s definitely in her favor, trust me.

[@brutal_lui]

@@BONKfrys wise words from a wise man. Mmm very well

[@ultragamer8816]

It’s definitely better to use mythra more than pyra but pyra is still good fir killing

[@darksyde0418]

Pyra/Mythra is top tier definitely. But I disagree with Pyra/Mythra losing 1 match up, like I think that don't have any losing matchup, like Pikachu is their hardest mu I agree but it's still even.

[@LuminoX688]

Pyra is Mid tier and Mythra is High tier Both are top tier

[@Brandon_4272]

No, Mythra is top tier and Pyra mid tier

[@LuminoX688]

@@Brandon_4272 Mythra is high in the high tier rank

[@Brandon_4272]

@@LuminoX688 idk about that lol. Individually, Mythra is the third best DLC character after Joker and Min Min

[@LuminoX688]

@@Brandon_4272 yeah true

[@Simon-hs7ik]

ehh pyra is low tier and mythra alone is top 10

[@raylay6504]

Why have u guys done Sephiroth review yet?? U have done almost ever other DLC character, but him.

[@SamuelJohnsonYT]

They probably don't like Sephiroth

[@bladewingmcowl5842]

When it comes to beauty and being thicc, Pyra and Mythra are both top tier 😎

[@literallydeadpool]

Wait people unironically simp for some anime woman with big boba?

[@RobBloxes]

@@literallydeadpool yes.

[@snomjudges5881]

B O N K

[@xanander4693]

Do minmin next!

[@frankjoz2803]

Picture this. Top 16 in locals. 6 of them were using this broken ass chars. Not even Jokers were so many.

[@mordeymay3739]

Still hasn’t happened

[@alienated8113]

trying to learn kazuya online and fighting pythra is not a good time

[@neptuneart551]

Where the new videos? You could be covering Steve or recent tournaments… I missed the high quality content.

[@praevidens]

This is cool and all but I need to know who's the best Isabelle player

[@fluffyadit7899]

I want it to be me someday… I just think I need a LOT of practice. Isabelle is my highest GSP with 9.7 mil. I’m just missing something.

[@BeckTheBros]

@@fluffyadit7899 1v1 me

[@fluffyadit7899]

@@BeckTheBros Ok, I’ll set up a Battle Arena.

[@fluffyadit7899]

It’s up now.

[@fluffyadit7899]

Respond back so I can give you the Password. :)

[@truevinister6278]

I feel that Pyra/Mythra struggles with heavy zoners like Samus.

[@kkim5000]

i don't think so, mythra's foresight generally makes using projectiles risky.

[@Simon-hs7ik]

do one about diddy

[@jeraldallam9504]

I thought they were number one????

[@roker936]

Lol at the guy complaining while playing Lucas

[@Rarest26]

I’m usually the first to say people fall too hard for the new toy syndrome, calling everything broken from release, but these two are the exception. They are incredible.

[@massilyar341]

You wouldn’t say that until you see GOML. Sonic made bacon and eggs out of both mkleo and sparg, who both used the aegis

[@massilyar341]

I meant sonix

[@pbz7572]

Idk where they are in top 10 but they’re top 10

[@Richmykal1212]

5.99 BABY also Fun Fact All of FP2 Characters are TOP TIERS

[@Rarest26]

Only these two are truly top tier though. Kazuya is too slow, Sephiroth is too light, Min Min has an abysmal recovery and Steve… don’t get me started on him.

[@ultragamer8816]

Mythra is good for getting lots of damage and pyra is good for killing

[@lbesavant]

Please stop spamming the comments section

[@Daemon4]

@@lbesavant Who asked you bro

[@lbesavant]

@@Daemon4 not about who asked. He’s ruining the image of the channel

[@SamuelJohnsonYT]

I think Pyra and Mythra are high tier in my opinion I think the reason why people think they are top tier is because they are thirsty for them didn't you put them in A tier but now you are saying they are Top Tier kinda sus

[@frankjoz2803]

Add a couple of ending lag and nerf 10% Pyra's Strength.

[@Chaaderbox]

How about buffing everybody that’s weak 🙃

[@gravemind76]

Pyra strength ain't the problem at all you know she kills later than Ike right? Do all her moves and Ike moves in training and you will see he kills 10-15% earlier on most his moves. Pyra was never the issue if you look at top level play and what they say smh. You want her to stay top 5 slowest characters with less kill power?

[@ninjaphant1881]

I main top tiers let’s go. Yet people keep saying they are stupid and broken

[@SmashJEFF]

I think she's high tier

[@dustinmartin6524]

why

[@LuminoX688]

top tier 100%

[@pepe_ronii]

neither. shes cheap nd op. Op dlc? nothin new

[@rtg_j0318]

Jesus is King and loves u and thanks for the great content you have a great day

[@StanLeFox]

ayo first!

[@2LoopMk]

She low high teir Everyone calm down

[@dustinmartin6524]

how

[@LuminoX688]

lol she's top tier

[@pablo.4011]

No. Lol.

[@2LoopMk]

@@dustinmartin6524 she just is

[@jkahl5596]

There high tier separate but if you use both characters properly their top tier

[@awesauce1]

High tier at best. These overrated pieces of shit have terrible recoveries, bad combo potential, Pyra is extremely slow, mythra is probably the weakest character in the game in terms of damage, and their just overrated characters. A character could come out with garbage damage, speeds, and/or recovery, and people will still say they are top tier

[@SamuelJohnsonYT]

Agreed I think the reason why people think they are top tier is because they think Pyra and Mythra are good looking or because they have a big chest