Are Shaders Without Mods Possible?

1.17 added a new type of vanilla shaders (shaders without mods!) If you thought 1.17 was bad/disappointing because it didn't have caves OR cliffs, THINK AGAIN. I'll explain what the new vanilla shaders can do, their limitations, and how YOU can get them yourself!
Minecraft Commands Discord [ / discord ]
My rainbow selection pack:
cdn.discordapp.com/attachment...
Xilefan's wavy leaves/water:
gist.github.com/felixjones/d5...
Onnowhere's ortho shader (the rest are unreleased):
github.com/onnowhere/core_sha...
bradleyq's reflections/bloom shader for 1.16(!):
github.com/bradleyq/mc_vanill...
Sotshi's random textures + many others:
github.com/EwenCollin/MC-Shaders
Selicre's night sky/fractal sky:
/ gqn7dgz
Vilder50's monkey block:
/ 1370441756987232269
BálintCsala's VanillaPuddingTart aka path traced graphics:
github.com/BalintCsala/Vanill...
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=== music used ===
C418 - Chirp
C418 - Door
Celestial Valley - Kirby Air Ride
Jowee's House - Drawn to Life: The Next Chapter
Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney OST - Logic and Trick
Persona 5 - Life Will Change Instrumental Version
Rhythm Heaven - OK
Are shaders without mods possible? Sort of. I'll explain. You can use these shaders to do all kinds of cool stuff, from making the minecraft world round, to making all the textures random! the youtubers (cough karl cough) are gonna have a field day once they get their hands on this ;^)

[@reesespuffs8998]

Some guys found a way to get shadows without path tracing using the core shaders system. Since you can't render the world a second time for the shadow map it just renders the shadow map every second frame and then projects the shadows on the first frame, which basically halves your framerate.

[@Legitimoose]

omg Do you have a link to that? 👀 That sounds awesome.

[@reesespuffs8998]

@@Legitimoose unfortunately I don't. I heard of this on the Shaderlabs discord server, try searching there.

[@KoharoMegumin]

i want a link too👀

[@SuchFlare]

hmm 800/2 400 and my monitor is 144hz sooooooooooo can i have the link

[@RBYW1234]

@@Legitimoose Feel like we in the 90s and someone is saying, hey I can build a computer for you. Guy says "What?"

[@retroruin4917]

i love how one of the instruction points for installing that shader pack is "Do as best as you can to ignore the warnings"

[@TM450FI]

Nowadays cellphone and PC os has so many warnings to stop boomers from downloading trojans lmao

[@bluesillybeard]

Not only did they add vanilla shaders, they actually completely rewrote the rendering engine to update from OpenGL 2.1 to OpenGL 3.3, updated to Java 16 (they had been using the outdated 1.8 for years), and they also made it to where the world height limit can be changed using a datapack. 1.17 is a very under-the-hood heavy update, to say the least.

[@bluesillybeard]

@@killerbryne 3.3 is still a 12 year old version of OpenGL, and driver updates can bring newer versions of it to older cards

[@ArtisticScratch]

I had no Idea any of this was possible until today, mind is officially blown

[@PaperTree]

isnt the 1.17 update the update that took some time to get an optifine release?

[@kodicraft]

@@PaperTree No, that was 1.15 which also had a pretty significant engine change that the optifine dev promptly reverted them in optifine

[@SarkanyGergogaming]

No reason why they couldn't go with a newer OpenGL like 4.0+, but the only major addition is tesselation support, and in a voxel engine there isn't a lot of use for that.

[@amakerofminecraftthings1103]

Yay he remembers his password for yt

[@Uziel175]

Pog

[@luccakapakapa]

Creative

[@Oddo22]

the thing is..... shaders have been in bedrock without mod for a long time

[@singularcroc]

oh god is this one of those youtubers with 40k subs that uploads every other blue moon

[@hugejazz2737]

I forgot mine so I had to create a new account :(

[@scraub8913]

4:00 Oh my god you can actually see the Squid's animation in that, that's funny and also incredibly cool

[@labyrinthzone9397]

flat squid

[@vitorgabrielgomesrodrigues]

As a programmer, you get my respect for explaining what shaders are

[@Sight649]

eae

[@tomsterbg8130]

It is definitely a difficult thing to explain at a stage like this and I wouldn't have been able to explain it properly if I was given the same resources. Man's got not only programming knowledge, but can teach well enough too

[@ZweiForgot]

@@tomsterbg8130 WHAT THE FUCK HOW DID I JUST FIND YOU

[@tomsterbg8130]

@@ZweiForgot I'm an active commenter, no surprise we both watch the nerdy parts about Minecraft

[@finchproplayz]

okk

[@draco6349]

The block bugs in the pathtracing resource pack remind me of how a rendering technique called raymarching can seem to change the actual geometry of models. Really cool, actually!

[@vladyslavkryvoruchko]

res = smin(object1, object2, 1.0); Yeee smooth minimum is one love in raymarching!

[@TopchetoEU]

@@vladyslavkryvoruchko smin separates the boys from the men

[@theosib]

A CPU gets its speed through instruction level parallelism. Since that parallelism isn't explicit, a TON of hardware is dedicated to tracking and executing instructions to run in parallel and out of order and then putting them back into order again. The result is one or two threads (per core) that run pretty fast. On the other hand, a GPU gets its speed from massive thread-level parallelism. Instead of a few massive beefy CPU cores, there are *thousands* of really simple ones. One pixel isn't computed super fast, but the GPU can compute thousands of pixels in parallel.

[@joechristo2]

yeah say all that without explaining any of it leaving us completely confused

[@Jason9637]

@@joechristo2 CPU cores are fast, GPU cores are slow, but GPUs have thousands of cores, while CPUs only have 4-8 cores.

[@hi_its_jerry]

@@joechristo2 cpu core = few but fast monke gpu cores = horde of gorillas

[@harrylayton9359]

@@hi_its_jerry that..... that damn works......

[@AntonioNoack]

@@joechristo2 CPU = 5 college students, GPU = 1000 elementary school children

[@smarty265]

7:29 manliest scream

[@ninenezumi]

Such amazing content man, keep up the great work!

[@Legitimoose]

Thanks a ton! I'll do what I can! ;^)

[@ValeryRelaxingMusic]

@legitmoose you said the 2d MC shader where is this?

[@itzangel0735]

During the 1.17 snapshot cycle I really got hyped because og the OpenGL, I thought it was the first step to shaders and new amazing light features to come in vanilla. But I found few resourse pack or people talking about what this can mean for the future.

[@marcinsarniak]

Mojang should allocate way more resources into customization and modding of the game, especially documentation, and developer tools. It is in my opinion the single thing that keeps the Minecraft community alive all these years later. Honestly, all these useless mobs and blocks they have been adding lately, aren't interesting enough on their own to keep players coming. Amateur modders have put Mojang to shame for years. Even with all the resources Mojang has, modders still make more interesting content, and faster as well. The extension of Y axis was absolutely the main selling point in 1.17. Now that we have to wait, they could make the shaders more accessible, perhaps by actually writing documentation for it... Same goes for datapacks, and commands, which are a topic for themselves. The commands in Minecraft are probably the most chaotic implementation I have seen that wasn't added by a third party developer. Creating official tools, such as skin and resource pack editors, data pack creators, adding back the world customization that they got rid off, would take the game way further than adding a fucking goat. Now I understand all of these things are possible to do, and if someone wants to understand how to do it, they can. However I'm looking at this from a "Company that wants their game to do well" perspective. You always want to have as big of a reach as possible without compromising your products use and value. Making these tools isn't a problem for Mojang at all, they have all the money and tools they need. If people can do it for free because of the passion for the game, Mojang can do it for the long term investment, that will without a doubt yield in years to come. Why they don't is truly fascinating to me.

[@ToxicMothBoi]

Its literaly coded in java, how much easier do you want modding to be? Its literaly so easy you could learn it in a day.

[@syserq]

@@ToxicMothBoi he wants it mcreator level

[@twiddlerat9920]

I really hope they add more resources for datapacks, I see them as a much simpler future of modding without clients

[@caspernotghost5089]

@@twiddlerat9920 but they are also way more limited

[@ALittleKitten]

@@ToxicMothBoi Wheres the modding api lol

[@jonathandavidson2468]

As someone who was trying to get into a career for graphic engineering while I was still studying in Uni, even I wasn't aware you could do this in 1.17 lmao nice! I'm gonna make some absolute wild stencil buffer stuff c:

[@anirudh6642]

finally, a video that talks about shaders in minecraft instead of 100 video tutorials on downloading shaders for optifine. much gratitude

[@ideologyonion4025]

I agree, I couldn’t find any information on it before this video!

[@masterclash9959]

Suggestion: Making custom advancements and recipes for datapacks! I discovered how to make them, so I would love to see them explained in one of your videos!

[@inkkles]

YOU CAN DO CUSTOM ADVANCEMENTS?!??!?!?!??! BROOOOOOOOOOOOO WHGAT

[@franspacenaspace8141]

@@inkkles Yeah, you can do custom biomes with custom structures, loots of other things! Datapacks are the nearest thing to mods

[@nikkiofthevalley]

@@inkkles Yeah, but the main thing it's used for is custom crafting from a crafting table.

[@rinsw8872]

2:28 ah yes...the software where we delete the cube and paste it back just because why not

[@elnico5623]

To be perfectly honest, i don't know where the default cube has been, the new ones also smells so good

[@noxmore]

I knew this was a thing but i always thought it was extremely limited because i didn't see too much use out of it, awesome video!

[@polarsbear668]

This looks absolutely amazing. I'm trying to learn how to code shaders currently (having some trouble wrapping my head around the whole rendering procedure), and hopefully I can make something fun for a minecraft resourcepack. Thank you for sharing this, and not being one of *those people* who feel their audiences are too dumb to understand technical terms.

[@Blacksoul444]

you probably won't come around the projection matrices. Better try to understand the whole pipeline, but its worth it.

[@rcoder01]

I'm glad I finally found a video with as much enthusiasm for this change as I had when I first saw it!

[@iIO_OIi]

It has occurred to me that the texture swapping probably allows for animated mob textures, which could of course also be synchronized with other shaders stuffs- ie, hypothetically you miiiiiiiight find a way to make the eyes of the drowned glow, but have a blinking texture that geys applied every now and then, and have the glow effect turned off for this time. That being said, even though I'm pretty sure it's possible (now), I have no idea how to actually code it.

[@alafermojouet163]

Great video !! The drawn to life music in the background is a great too

[@nerdamethyst]

Finally! I've been waiting for someone to talk about vanilla shaders. I've been wondering how to use it but I can't find anyone who talks about it.

[@caverace9005]

most underrated youtuber ever

[@MilsonDev_]

I agree

[@gergelygrosz3181]

I agree

[@tripureshmishra8978]

See you in a month when this has like 5 million views

[@nineseven4225]

Gotta mark the walls for the next people to complain about too

[@seanthomas5182]

Crazy this isn't viral yet!!

[@XXLSteve]

@@seanthomas5182 still at 21k views

[@taelim6599]

This didn't age well lmao

[@Igotnolphone]

I got this video recommended randomly so it might get viral soon

[@mr.winstone]

I was thinking that it's Phoenix SC video. :o You're alive!

[@allesprobieren]

4:17 This reminds me exactly of the 4D dimensions videos I watched

[@MYakhovlev]

Video about "4D Miner"?

[@yeounine5910]

Imagine if we could use this to make effects like heat wave distortion for deserts and the nether!!

[@pixstatic200]

heat distortion would actually be pretty straightforward on its own (scrolling noise textures, spooky stuff I know), but it would really depend on if biome information is passed to shaders or not. If it's possible to access that data in a shader it would be super easy to add some cool heat distortion/mirage effects.

[@mvdestiny4882]

My shaders actually do this and its really cool!

[@yeounine5910]

@~ MVDESTINY ~ is there an link that would be so cool

[@noktu]

@@mvdestiny4882 you play gacha life so thats cap

[@mvdestiny4882]

@@noktu man I haven't played that one in years. good times tho. I mean I didn't know it was impossible to play both gacha club and minecraft on the same device, but if you think so then you do you boo-boo

[@ChromaticRed]

This is actually fantastic to know, thank you for giving attention to this, gotta push this to other people's recommended

[@timetravellingblockhead2122]

Absolutely love your style, comedy and tone (:

[@ynntari2775]

4:11 - looks like 4D Minecraft

[@davidn2749]

This is the first videos of yours I watched. If your others videos are even a little similar I can easily say I love your content. Subscribed

[@Legitimoose]

Thanks! Definitely more videos in a similar style to come, I'm real proud of this one :D

[@DrJrGenius]

Yo good video man! Great work

[@Wallee580]

First video I've seen from you and I'm already subscribing xD

[@chrisliask]

You deserve much more attention, you are amazing 🙌🙌🙌

[@Torbikini]

This is actually so cool! I took a computer graphics course and learned about shaders, I might have to give this a try!

[@ibiteni0]

i know i’m a year late, but that sounds So Exciting! i also know that “another year later” is a very optimistic estimate of when i’ll get to playing with all of that, but when i do, things are gonna get Wonky!!

[@BierBart12]

Without mathheads, modern technology, let alone gaming, wouldn't exist. I appreciate them so much for it This kinda thing must be a paradise who have fun playing with numbers

[@GoldGomme2002]

omg this was the best minecraft related video ive seen in a while!

[@jalamity]

Love the editing

[@rendommguayy221]

This man needs much more attention!

[@MasonFowlkesKenneth]

Dude.. how has this video not blown up?! This is sick! I've liked and subscribed. But you totally deserve more subs!

[@Nugcon]

Friendship ended with optifine 😎 Jk optifine pls give me my frames back

[@RohitSharma-wx2ky]

Plus IRIS💕

[@iamb0]

@@webots125 is sodium better then optifine?

[@iamb0]

@@webots125 ok

[@ae-_ae]

@@iamb0 they're better in different ways its mostly what you prefer

[@Nugcon]

@@webots125 I would but my optifine cape is holding me hostage

[@padgodlol6063]

love your vids keep up the good work :)

[@Updoggo1]

Ain't no way you're using the drawn to life soundtrack in this video that's awesome

[@unnaturallynatural8885]

the drawn to life ost used in this video was so nostalgic

[@Will_-it3mh]

6:28 in the words of Fundy: "change a number, change some more numbers, compile that boi"

[@legobuildingsrewiew7538]

I love this channel. So underrated!

[@ynntari2775]

5:53 - Oh my God, even Switzerland is there

[@ynntari2775]

Schwiizerdütsch is truely not an easy language

[@empcat1254]

drawn to life music! oh the nostalgia, love that game so much.

[@Firazoid]

I just want to say that I caught the Kirby Air Ride music in the background. Celestial Valley. Fun game with an amazing soundtrack. I haven't played it in ages, and yet I remember the music instantly.

[@watermelongaming8658]

VERY underrated channel thank you :D also which one is the wonky camera angle one?

[@spacegoat0133]

5:04 oof…gave me calculus 3 ptsd flashbacks with that one

[@sillicon8227]

Matrices are easy

[@rerere284]

yay! I managed to make a shader that makes moody lighting actually impossible to see in when you're in a dark area :D

[@OnionTheSquid]

2:49 AMAZING

[@sweetsonicgamer]

Bro the draw to life music in the background brought back so many memories 😭

[@Aseramon]

All the minecraft aside, the drawn to life music in the background was a vibe.

[@Legitimoose]

one of my favorite game OSTs, and no one ever uses it in videos! it's always cursed when you're watching a video and suddenly "wait, this is the mark rober music-"

[@Aseramon]

@@Legitimoose Yeah. The music in the game was a bop to listen to. I mostly loved the opera scene where she looses her voice and the end credits. I really wish they'd putbthe8r music out to buy on iTunes to vibe to it.

[@GeoCloud2]

good video man keep it up

[@super_pro1000alt]

0:57 that completely... It reminds me of him... Rest in peace Techno

[@tetraxel]

Woaaahh :o 6:27 best advice to learn shaders in minecraft

[@pbg2600]

Man, you deserve more subscribers.

[@lapiswolf2780]

I was impressed and then when he explained the part with moving vertices to make waving water and blocks, I got less surprised as I thought, "Hey, I've seen this before. I use these all the time in another free game to have waving water and leaves." And we just got native dynamic shadows too. 3:15 Also this looks like the game I just mentioned, Minetest Game(to differentiate from Minetest Engine) with maybe medium dynamic shadows enabled. I play this already. 😂

[@raandomplayer8589]

Literally the only video on KZbin covering this

[@Blaineworld]

This is one of the few channels I've subscribed to after watching only one video.

[@RandyLent]

I remember years ago, back then when my computer was barely able to run shaders, I tried looking up shaders texture packs, and back in the day, they were kinda garbage lmao. So it's cool to see this.

[@alihesso2233]

Hello legend I am a new subscriber! I really loved you tuturials So could you please make a tuturial about making a simple egg wars with scorboers and eggs destroing and like that.

[@dontknow6175]

Please cover the new replacement for /replaceitem and the new loot table that you can do with it.

[@thetoad.1251]

This is cool as heck!

[@miodek9323]

I love the new blender monkey block

[@loopdit]

as soon as i heard the lbp music at the end, my mind flooded

[@novaspacewitch9963]

The glitches in that one resource pack were like an incredible creepypasta

[@irakli-2k]

0:39 I totally forgot that this was a thing lol

[@rinislaboratories1315]

I taught myself GLSL to rewrite a games shaders because it bugged me that they hadnt fixed then yet. It is surprisingly straightforward and easy to learn with help from ChatGPT

[@technotoister]

ok, for 1 ur hilarious my guy i'm subbing and 2 cool vid

[@TaylorMAston]

Respect for the drawn to life music in the background

[@CallMeThyme]

This is si cool! I love it

[@IchigoMait]

Talking about using just shaders with Raytracing, without the textures. Like using the nvidia-pbr-example-texturesets-pixelart just so that can enable the raytracing setting, and replace all the textures with vanilla textues, and see what Raytracing does with just shader modified stuff. Probably shaders would need to be custom modified so that raytracing would work with it without texture pack. Or raytracing works only with raytracing compatible textures.

[@niceman7138]

the ending played me like a fiddle

[@dan_le]

This was a pretty cool video. Of course, I subscribed because you used the word "nerd" correctly. Most people use it interchangeably with "geek," which is completely different.

[@benceturi]

Really cool video! And I just realized that a hungarian guy made this shader. n i c e

[@mattimotion]

idk why but the scream at 7:29 was just beautiful

[@RevolutionaryOven]

Wait... is that Drawn to Life and Kirby Air Ride music in a single video in 2021? You sir take my like.

[@Legitimoose]

drawn to life ost slaps forever

[@Alexfreddiek260411]

Please do a /data command tutorial love your vids :)

[@darqed]

finally an upload!

[@KvaGram]

ooh.. that brings me back to my collage days. Matrix math was fun. Complicated but fun. Haven't had any use of it since. Well, except for moment like this, where I can proudly say: I know what that kind of math is.

[@doufmech4323]

I have used matrix math a lot lately, it is really fun.

[@MeteGamerYTPvP]

after 3 years learning C, finally something cool to work with :D

[@mathmachine4266]

1:19 OH MY GOD I IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZED THIS MUSIC! Drawn to life the next chapter!!

[@zolmik-1389]

Hi! I am a Russian person, I watch your videos, they often help me! The video about writing data packs helped a lot! You are so cool! You deserve more followers!

[@Mr.Pumpkky]

When I played pocket edition, the only way to get shaders was with resource packs. That was YEARS ago. So this has actually been around for a while.

[@obsidianflight8065]

you have been hit by the ~youtube algorithm~ and i have liked your video!

[@volnas1665]

I was hesitant about doing path tracing in OpenGL batchelor thesis in the next grade and then going for computer graphics masters degree, but if it means I will be able to make shaders for Minecraft, I'M IN. I'm learning OpenGL now so thanks for this video, I'll include messing with Minecraft shaders in my free time 😅

[@sugarbooty]

Have fun buddy, what's your github? Id like to take a look at what you do :D

[@arlwiss5110]

I really wish these caught on. They're so cool but there's basically nothing new made using this feature since then. Good thing the ones from this video still work though - I use the rainbow block select all the time and honestly it should replace the vanilla one which is almost invisible

[@Legitimoose]

there _is_ actually a ton of cool stuff made with this feature since this video, but it's still _rather_ obscure lol someone made _working realtime_ optifine style shaders: github.com/bradleyq/mc_vanilla_shaders/tree/dev and this person just repeatedly goes sicko mode: twitter.com/spheya_ maybe i'll gather enough stuff for a part 2 someday

[@arlwiss5110]

thanks for the recommendations!

[@heroyearsley-prior4951]

everyone from 3 months ago said this was gonna go viral in a month but i think youtube is just gonna put this in everyone's recomendations 20 years froom now

[@Legitimoose]

i haven't found the right title/thumbnail combo for this baby yet. at this rate, 20 years sounds about right ;^)

[@john27638]

I give this 2 years until we see some crazy person port some game into minecraft using shaders, the new font rendering stuff and plugins

[@Povilaz]

Now that's interesting!

[@carlostotola5359]

Truly amazing.

[@XXLSteve]

7:29

[@oliverkodys7723]

The best part

[@XXLSteve]

@@oliverkodys7723 yes

[@harrylingard8783]

"Split into 2 parts." The wild update is basically caves and cliffs part 3, and yet they still didn't add half the stuff they said.

[@user-tzzglsstle585e38]

half is a massive exaggeration

[@kaiser724]

Props for using music from drawn to life 2

[@ArmoredarmadilloX]

Is my man using Drawn to life music? Nice

[@XeonPrototype]

wow, I never would've thought 1.17 was such a big deal honestly, seeing this though I can't believe how under the radar this was, as a texture pack enthusiast I am honestly in shock