Minecraft's Forgotten Mechanics

[@SethBling]

A small addition: that Jeb tweet at the end was specifically a reply to my video that day: Paint Program in Minecraft Snapshot 13w36a. Amazing how accurate you got all the details on a 10 year old story, this was a really fun walk through some fairly obscure but impactful history!

[@Legitimoose]

Thanks so much! I had that paint video in my list of potential sources, but never put together that the tweet was a reply to it! Very cool additional lore :D

[@raynfall77_69]

I always love when I find big KZbinrs in comment sections

[@XaviLR]

@@raynfall77_69 I love when I find small KZbinrs in the reply section

[@akhen0950]

i always love when i find KZbinr in me

[@TheeFlashbackMan]

such a humble creator

[@CraftyMasterman]

TRAZLANDER???? What a pull

[@Kabukkafa]

Crafty and no comments no way

[@Keatosis_Quohotos]

Haven't heard that name is SO LONG

[@frogmouth2]

*ULTRA RARE 8 STAR MCYT PULL!!!!!!*

[@yIsThisMyName]

crafty :O

[@ISamAtlas]

the idea of not having /fill and using such a roundabout way to achieve the same effects makes me oddly nostalgic for a time i wasnt even present in. I almost feel sad to have missed it because this is cool as hell

[@orangemonks894]

I remember showing my older cousins, who introduced me to the game, how to use /fill, bringing the cycle full circle

[@lucipo_]

this sort of thing happens ALL the time in the datapack community, we find a "hacky roundabout way" to do a feature (such as create custom mounts) that is inherently buggy and unintentional by mojang, and then mojang has to end up adding it because well the feature was basically already added by the community.

[@ISamAtlas]

@@lucipo_ lol yeah. IT BRINGS BACK SOME GOOD MEMORIES! I remember a couple years back someone wanted to make a compass that leads to the nearest nether fortress. I knew locator maps could be the key to this and recommended it, but they needed help. I basically created a system that generates a loot table for a nether fortress locator map, reads the x and y value of the X on the map, and set that as the compass’s coordinates.

[@lucipo_]

@@ISamAtlas watching the growth of hacky solutions to implementing custom structures into minecraft via datapacks was a fun time, custom engines and apis until mojang finally said FINE WELL ADD IT

[@SetOfAllSets]

/setblock is the smaller one i think

[@TrazLander]

❤

[@Content_Deleted]

[@SpaceSoups]

[@cooper54729]

@@TrazLander a legend

[@BakeBakePi]

[@randompixel2053]

[@moxvallix]

Theres always a certain tragedy to adding new technical features to Minecraft. It feels so magical to work around the limitations of the game, and it always feels a little sad when a better, proper way is implemented. I personally felt it most with the introduction of command macros; they unlocked so much functionality of datapacks, but at the cost of all the little hacks and workarounds the community had invented. I guess the upside is that theres always another limitation, and one can use the ever expanding datapack arsenal to push against it in ever more interesting ways.

[@immibis]

I see this tragedy for gameplay features, but not for map making features. A game where you can do anything you want is just a 3D modelling program, but a system where you can create any game you want is worth billions of dollars. Having said that, limitations also generate creativity, otherwise all these Minecraft maps would just be Unity games. My favourite modded adventure map is Material Energy 4; they made a whole map series around a mod mechanic that let you swap areas of the world into storage items. It wouldn't be as cool if it was just a Unity game where you walked through a portal to load the next level.

[@Mogswamp]

Man, this really brought me back to this era. Everything was so new and exciting back then. Thanks for this awesome documentary

[@Legitimoose]

mogswamp??? thanks! :D

[@TheeFlashbackMan]

honestly loved this whole video i never knew minecraft technical community was like this i was 10yo and barely knew english back then i never understood what was happening but still loved to watch sethbling's videos thank you for this documentary now i have more appreciation towards the community i want more

[@justvladcreate]

exactly

[@coolshockbt]

I hate seeing your face anywhere

[@StarWarsExpert_]

yeah, I loved this whos video as well and didn't know how the tech community back then really was like.

[@awsomebot1]

The limitations resulted in wild creativity. I subbed to SB back in beta Minecraft and was there for all the videos you've shown. How he used to do redstone, TNT, and MCEdit filters, and later switched to spawners, command blocks, and (later) armor stands. Armor stands in particular felt like it would be the end of it, because they seemingly allowed Seth to do ANYTHING. All his videos then had the same "cure cancer" jokes in the comments section. A decade later, we have almost unlimited freedom with datapacks which can effectively mod the game. Unfortunately, some of the charm was lost in the way now that there are no limits. All the context you've provided was really enjoyable, I imagine it took a lot of work to dig up the details most of us had no idea about even back then. I also appreciate you didn't overly embellish the story to play into the nostalgia, or try to make it overly sentimental. It was just a well presented and researched retelling of what happened, and it speaks for itself. Great video.

[@MineZapp]

Truly, the Spawner Minecart is a hero of the ages. Created with no clear purpose in life, and choosing to instead, be a hero. Attain a moment in the spotlight, and sacrifice it for the greater good of the community. While it itself may never see the same power, the same use, it has granted us an incredible tool which has shaped Minecraft for years. Thank you, Spawner Minecart.

[@SupFederich]

No way he's bacck

[@JustDonat]

Fr

[@stray1239]

THE MOOSE RETURNS (again)

[@cupofdirtfordinner]

legit imoose

[@1lucia]

I'm shocked that people don't remember Hypixel for his great maps anymore and instead just his server, this is it, I'm truly getting old. Being around in that time was AWESOME. I was keeping up with Hypixel and Sethbling religiously. Every new update added some new fun mechanic that allowed for another infinitely awesome addition first seen in a Sethbling video and then in Hypixel's maps. Nowadays we just kinda have everything. It's kind of comaprable to how video game graphics got better and better from 2000 to like 2013. Everything since is just kinda samey. GTA 5 on max settings kinda looks as good as what we're seeing in the GTA 6 trailer. Now sure, are there more realistic details? Are there more hair strands and more pores in the face? Sure. And I love every small step that makes games look more realistic, if that is the wishes aesthetic. But comapre the jump from GTA 5 graphics to that of GTA 6 to GTA: San Andreas to GTA 4. That is kinda what every update or hell, even snapshot felt like in terms of map making abilities. While I am still in awe at what map makers and redstoners create these days, 2012 and 2013 were like the goldrush of Minecraft maps. I remember fondly how I played them, I made maps myself in my free time (shitty ones, I was like 10-12ish), and I kept thinking how impossible these Hypixel maps were, but I could still recreate elements. Now I see data packs that add what is equivalent to the entirety of Herobrine's Mansion as randomly generated structures! Not saying we should go back, but there is something great about how rudimentary those old maps were and how a drop of new content always had a ripple effect of dozens of new great looking/great gameplay mechanics. Sitting down, lanching MCEdit and playing around with the new spawner features to create a small map was super fun. Great video! You made me revisit all that nostalgia :D

[@anthonybrown2781]

@@1lucia Sometimes I forget Hypixel was a guy, it’s easy to forget

[@Landjrin]

Dude I was THERE when Herobrines Mansion released, that shit was revolutionary. Ironically I never touched the Hypixel server, truly getting old 💀

[@THEEJONESY]

@@1lucia you are so wrong about the technical jump

[@TrideGD]

I remember religiously watching sethblings videos as a kid, being completely in awe just at the idea of spawners and falling sand. Really awesome to hear all the deep history I couldn't possibly have known about as a kid, thank you for making this video

[@cuz9892]

Tride can you make Minecraft in GD

[@ThatBeePerson]

Goodness I remember the old days, just sitting in a superflat world for HOURS trying to wrap my head around some of this old tech, no clue what keywords to search or who to follow to increase my understanding, no clue how to download custom maps, or how to use or even GET MCEdit. I think the much more in depth command blocks and the modern way of using commands in general (as well as the much better access people have to resources teaching them how to use these things) is for the better. Definitely nostalgic to think about that old stuff though. Wish I could have been there alongside everyone else learning about it.

[@erher1433]

this is why minecraft can never be replaced, the jank, the charm and it's community

[@metashrew]

what a blast from the past. I remember playing around with this stuff after Sethbling showcased Trazlander's stuff. I then watched all of the Trazlander videos and started playing around with it myself, recreating some of the effects i saw on the hypixel maps. I was too young to really know how it worked though. It was kinda like black magic; super powerful stuff, but if you mess it up it can break your world.

[@bluejayofevil]

I've been looking for that video from TrazLander for ages, but couldn't remember that name for the life of me. *Thank you* for uploading this. I remember how revolutionary a lot of these quirks and technical experiments were at the time. And now datapacks continue that legacy and push the boundaries even further.

[@Nzargnalphabet]

Bro craft dynasty was the reason I was banned off KZbin when I was young because one of the door videos was on the old fandom wiki and had a swear word I didn’t recognize, but my parents clearly did

[@blueskull7898]

Loved hearing this old story! I recognize bits and pieces from back then when I’d watch those guys. Hearing “MCGamer” was a real call back for me

[@NotKnafo]

i think it was still used to some capacity in those "command blocks data packs" that were popular around 2014 to 2016

[@Che8t]

Falling sand riding falling sand baby

[@cjremingtonhype]

13:46 the silence 🤣

[@Teleputer]

Glad to see my nostalgic knowledge of minecraft spawner mechanics finally has a digestible form for the public to enjoy my ramblings of the days of ye-old minecraft spawner mechanics can now be understood by all with this single video.

[@eshleyyy]

I still goof around with spawner minecarts for the hell of it time to time. Thankfully I dont have to spend half the time awkwardly navigating MCEdit anymore, and even though the mechanic itself isnt particularly useful in this day and age - it forever occupies a special place in my heart for introducing me to the world of mapmaking over a decade ago, and I continue to have fun with it to this day.

[@BlockerLockerYT]

So glad to see someone cover this topic! I remember using spawner minecarts to make stupid mini games back in the day, I wish I could still find them. The technical community really relied on witchcraft back then.

[@MrHendrikje]

They still do. Nothing has changed. If you want to see a glimpse of it in normal gameplay usage; Docm77. If you want your mind shattered; Scycraft. I'm still miffed Mojang patched Poppy technology.

[@Che8t]

@@BlockerLockerYT even command blocks had a weird time when the "one command" data packs would have you summoning hundreds of falling sand blocks riding other falling sand redstone blocks to summon hundreds of other custom spawner minecarts to change the game.

[@jason_man]

24:16 that snapshot picture is somehow burnt into my retina. I remember where I was when that dropped as a mere 14 year old. Wild.

[@milesromanus7041]

I remember when you took damage while trying to sleep on a bed outside.. "Sure grandpa, let's get you to bed"

[@JoBot__]

I remember when you could put slabs over the bed to stop that from happening.

[@Yqe-]

It is exceedingly rare for me to be able to sit through a minecraft video essay now a days without dying from cringing at blatant misinformation or horrible editing, but this video is indeed a rare exception! Expertly researched and explained, I remember following the trazlander map making series as it was coming out along with the spawner minecart tech and you definitely gave it some justice. I really hope you continue making videos like these!

[@OkCoffeeIsNice]

12:33 the sanji skin is crazy

[@svej6912]

THE ONE PIECE IS REAL - WAN PISU WA JITSUZAI SURU

[@OkCoffeeIsNice]

@@svej6912 facts

[@EmdyMC]

It's funny you mention ModPunchtree's IRIS computer considering that it doesn't use any commands or mods and is purely redstone wires with a texture pack lmao

[@Surr3alD3sign]

"Things couldnt be doing better for the minecart spawner" "The minecart spawner dies" Oh no 🥲

[@mateus8889_]

2:08 Nikola Tesla playing Minecraft

[@citybuildmc2516]

He Remeberd his password and found his old phone he used for 2fa! He's finally back! (big fan went into development just bc of you)

[@Yes-jf9tj]

A couple years back during the pandemic, your videos were the main reason I enjoyed messing around with command blocks so much. I clicked on this video because you uploaded it but all my expectations were blown away. Great video!

[@LavaTheLatvian]

THE GOAT IS BACK

[@waldendoom3783]

NEW MOOSE POGGERS

[@kl0nos]

wow, i have to say this vid was amazing! So much research on this niche topic :). Also this reminds me when I used to build nukes in Minecraft, using an egg to spawn a falling spawner block thag spawned command blocks and blocks of redstone lol. Good times :)

[@KittenKatja]

I remember a 2011 Video of someone standing atop like 20 spawners, looking towards a mountain, and whenever they were near the spawners, lava blocks and fire would spew out of the mountain like a volcano.

[@Legitimoose]

another Sethbling banger

[@KittenKatja]

@@Legitimoose I thought a nobody made that. xD

[@im_funny2510]

When the world needed him most, he came

[@kylebowles9820]

This is awesome! I have a few of these things going on in the oldest parts of my technical creative world. Thank you for helping me localize some of these builds in time

[@jackwoodhead]

This video is such a cool portal into the past

[@TwashMan]

This was an amazing video The spawner and spawner minecart era was when i was most active and interested in mapmaking. I don't think anything else has managed to make me feel this nostalgic

[@DxDeksor]

What a blast from the past, I remember hypixel's maps and how mind blown we were. Like I played it with a friend and after beating up a boss a chest appeared and I was like "Wait how could it be there ? There's no trace of a piston, wtf !" Then me and my friend became very interested by those tricks and we decided to make a sequel to a map we had made using this amazing tech. For months I worked with this tech, fine tuning my map, going mad due to the instability of spawners, etc ... and then 1.7 released and suddendly I had much better tools ... but also I had to rework everything to use command blocks instead. In the end I never released that map and it has stayed unfinished for a decade 😅 It's easy to forget how hard things were back then to do these tricks

[@tryashtar]

Great blast from the past. I miss the era of mcedit filters, spawners, falling sand, and wither skulls so much. Thank you for preserving this story.

[@MattDim]

As someone who didn't know the Golden Age of Minecraft, I'm really impressed on how people manage to do theses things without the simple ability of the Command Blocks, that's an brilliant evolution (I didn't even know the existence of the Spawner Minecart)

[@arsen4093]

fire thumbnail

[@wscamel226]

7:44 - It's just like with the "go to" in programing.

[@otmgi3865]

SethBlings water fountain still blows my mind

[@mrkefirek9]

This video is way better than i tought by looking at the thumbnail

[@Keatosis_Quohotos]

This got me right in the nostalgia. I was there for all of this. I thought I was the only one that remembered

[@awsomebot1]

There's tons of us, we're just outnumbered these days. It's good that people like OP are chronicling these things so we don't forget, and newer players get to hear about it.

[@Cobbet2]

Holy this video is so well made..

[@conure512]

I started playing minecraft in 1.7.10, which means I just BARELY missed this era. I hadn't ever really thought about there being a time without /setblock, much less than it being just a few months before I got the game. This was a wonderful video, thank you mooseman

[@3d523]

You caught me way off guard with that, didnt see it coming. I liked, commented and subscribed.

[@Siggerobot_]

HE FINALLY REMEMBERED HIS KZbin PASSWORD

[@QwertyAD1150]

Wow, maps were difficult to make back then.

[@Blook_industries]

he hasn't been silenced by Microsoft?

[@Legitimoose]

please i dont have much ti

[@Blook_industries]

@@Legitimoose to late, already sent more agents.

[@FoodFor1000]

Will we get another upload this year moose

[@antehll]

this video is just genuinely amazing, thank you

[@tearlach47]

8:42 What is this music?

[@Eyatu]

Please make more videos like this, It's a masterpiece

[@igo2573]

He’s alive!

[@MrBrineplays_]

Now I love minecarts with spawners. They look useless but turns out they were a major part of minecraft history and even led to the addition of the setblock command

[@Kabukkafa]

Never expected such thing

[@TheeFlashbackMan]

hell yeah

[@gnowmansangster]

holy shit its The Flashback Man from the hit manga JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 8: JoJolion!

[@TheeFlashbackMan]

@@gnowmansangstersome say i am the best character in the entire series

[@Zappr]

I remember watching the original mega-piston video and getting so inspired, not even owning the game yet! They say constraints are the mother of creativity and that can’t be more accurate with old-school technical minecraft.

[@stray1239]

1:04 hey its the chaos box

[@AnesPro0]

Bro rembered his password 🔑

[@thepuglover888]

This was a superb and informative video that really highlighted the use of this relic

[@Reyde_]

Such a nice story, something that probably havent been spoken about in modern Minecraft , people dont realize hiw creative mode was limited in features, but how much been done my community, so it seems we have so many new thing like block displays and external tools, and most will ether never atempt trying to work with them or wouldn't be able to outdo creations that are over 10 years old.

[@ritcardplayar8453]

I didn't know that the lapis block was so beautiful, I want it back so I can appreciate his beauty.

[@Nathaniel328]

It’s always a good month when legitimoose uploads

[@DawgDude2047]

Yo, I have been waiting for a long time to see a new @Legitimoose vid. This looks like a banger.

[@NotRynch]

moose upload before gta 6

[@kater2612]

i love your videos yeserday i made a spawner that spawns spawner minecarts that spawns spawner minecarts

[@wscamel226]

1:04 - Yooo!!! its chaos box!! Oh man you died so stupidly btw

[@buldozzer3456]

I remember playing the original "Rush" map back in 1.4.2. It was basically Bedwars. I was so amazed that there were custom villagers and a mobspawners that would spit out gold and bricks.

[@JamesTDG]

NGL, it makes you wonder, will we ever get people that will try to study the cart again to see if we can find some new ways to integrate this seemingly abandoned feature

[@ivan-the-crafter]

he posted!

[@rayzhao491]

Hey, Mojangles police here. Props to this guy for using proper Mojangles instead of fake Minecraftia!

[@Kevinkoo1213]

i could watch videos like this for hours

[@chase4247]

Yay

[@Aceedyt]

Watching your vids makes me relaxed and happy:D

[@Tedliho]

I've never heard of Hostinger before today, and this is the second ad I've seen of it.

[@felipebatalha3063]

it was so useful it became useless

[@xrexy]

It's been so many years but im still grieving cause of the lapis block texture...

[@BryanLu0]

Am I getting old. I remember Trazlander using this so much in building his map. And then setblock/fill came along

[@ykashgirl]

what a good video, you deserve more views!

[@jakeandhenryvideos]

I miss how cool little inventions by little known people would always blow up on KZbin ~10 years ago.

[@Abelkrijgtalles]

When we needed him the most, he came back. (it's been 4 months but idc)

[@hachikuji_mayoi]

Probably the most interesting minecraft history video I've seen. I was a kid and all redstone was just magic back then lol

[@DanYami]

FVDisco... :(

[@b3kstudio]

it's funny that the falling sand entity continued to stay relevant until datapacks

[@sinisterisrandom8537]

One day the Spawner Minecart will serve a new purpose. One day. Though I suspect it would have a purpose for spawning mobs in rotation in some maps. Though it would be the exception.

[@NotSum1UKno]

WOOOOOO

[@Voxelist1]

22:53 the player’s sprint jumping matched perfectly with the beat 😮

[@JohnsonBlu]

trazlander is a legend (rip spawner minecarts... the points you made at the end of the video are interesting too)

[@simi_says]

Great video moose!

[@swagmastermario8933]

1:07 "it's practically Essential" damn right it is, Essential mod is based

[@Zodaxa_zdx]

early days minecraft tech in every kind it be building ideas or actual redstone/spawner tech was always so crazy how it was discovered

[@kikivoorburg]

The map I remember from this time was HiFolksImAdam's "non-Euclidean geometry" thingy, which would be trivial to achieve today but was amazing to me at the time!

[@Mecreeping]

Reminds me of the One Command Block Creations people used to make. Those were wild to watch generate