Are TF2's Gimmick Weapons Really THAT BAD?

In this video, I explore TF2's Misunderstood Gimmick Weapons to find out which weapons hold hidden potential, and which are useless.
CHAPTERS
0:00 INTRO & RULES
0:31 The Devil's Donker (Loose Cannon)
2:35 The Lucksman (Huntsman)
4:38 The Sneeze Machine (Beggar's Bazooka)
8:41 The Nightmare (Classic)
10:53 The Fan O'Why (Fan O'War)
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This video features (in order of appearance):
- The Loose Cannon
- The Huntsman
- The Beggar's Bazooka
- The Classic
- The Fan O'War

[@CreemSmile]

Happy to be the one to teach you how to use the beggars, it might not be the best rocket launcher but it's definitely the flashiest.

[@getaround1276]

The beggars is to soldier primaries as the engie is to classes: not the best in alot of areas but by far the flashiest

[@101Volts]

I'd think it's... The Boomiest. I had a good game defending Upward with it, considering the narrow hallways in last.

[@gamereviews5384]

It’s good mvm

[@paxton9299]

Nah beggars best

[@shadowsnake5133]

It's the drunken fist of tf2.

[@stinkology]

A while back, I've decided to main loose cannon demo. About a year later, I don't regret it. The obvious pro of the Double Donk sound effect aside, being able to juggle your opponents is very fun. After a certain point it's no less viable than the stock. It's a good tool to get scouts out of your face too.

[@marcellpinter4031]

If you are constant with the double donks then damage whise its better than stock

[@Kappa48985]

I also enjoy becoming a bird with it

[@FemboyTrain]

It's very useful against übered players as well

[@getaround1276]

@marcellpintet4031 due to the fact that sentries can't take crits it's trades off building power for player destruction

[@ammi5311]

​@@getaround1276except it was the opposite , theatrically (not always realistically) does more damage to building

[@STCTZenzas]

Fan of war is for hitting a strong enemy and then running so that the enemy that is demolishing your team dies much faster.

[@ammi5311]

Except strong enemy not just gonna let you touch them eith melee , let along the fan of war shoot out of a scope at any range (Sydney sleeper) or a jar splash in a wide aoe ,or idk a number 8 class (maybe 9 even)

[@CaptDestro]

@@ammi5311 You'd be surprised at the tunnel vision they get.

[@estlin2001]

@@ammi5311 did you know that one of the strengths of the Scout is his ability to flank and get behind the enemy?

[@ammi5311]

@@estlin2001 you're not getting any flank when your team were destroyed

[@estlin2001]

@@ammi5311 Well that's a terrible time to use the fan obviously, what is your point?

[@CaptainWobbs]

Because you retain your charge while jumping with the Classic, I’ve found a really dumb but fun way to use it is in Sniper duels. Imagine, you’re watching a sightline, and the enemy sniper waddles in, bunnyhopping. You take your shot, but because he keeps jumping you miss his head, and then he bodyshots you and you die.

[@TheIndogamer]

As a guy who played military simulators with realistic ballistics quite often, using fast projectile weapons like The Huntsman actually is easier for me to use than the conventional sniper rifles in TF2. I've adapted to aiming where a moving target will go rather than where they are.

[@davisdf3064]

Sometimes i wonder if people would complain way less about Sniper if all of the rifles were just fast projectiles

[@artezac]

​@@davisdf3064likely not, take hanzo from overwatch, more casual players complain more about him than widow

[@TheManglerMaster]

​@@davisdf3064A roblox TF2 parody i play has travel-time in the sniper rifles, and It's no less infuriating

[@aaronharper1209]

The classic lets you see more as you can charge while not being scoped. That alone makes it decent as you can whip around and shoot people and makes it harder to get snuck up on.

[@ammi5311]

Or you can quick scope as gabe intended

[@A.Singularity]

​@@ammi5311alr, *quickscopes the pyro with a vacc bullet uber* FU-

[@SwellestJeans32]

Honestly I disagreed with SeaRavioli because when I played with the classic I had the best time ever and since then my main sniper rifle has been the classic. I've even got second place on the board on upward just using the classic. Honestly the most fun weapon in the game.

[@user-zm2vp6eu9d]

Also it is very nice for new players so that they have a chance at hitting enemies

[@fishefall4495]

this guy has the editing skills of a 2 Million subs youtuber and the watchability of a 20 Million

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

That means so much, thank you

[@Zyxu1]

​@@SeaRavioli-TF2funni music

[@maxxcrafting7519]

Huh i didnt even realise he wasnt whats it with small youtubers with god teir editing

[@fishefall4495]

@@maxxcrafting7519 fr

[@zeroescape]

Why are there like over 10 TF2 creators with less than 10k subs who make better content than other fandoms 1 mil sub creators?

[@gekoh.]

I've been playing only beggars lately and once I got used to it, It's just so amazing when I accidentally hit what I call a 'lord and saviour". Hitting 2 burst rockets in a row on a jumping enemy, then hitting them with another 20 km off the ground, and sometimes hitting them with a last one or a crater either works. The entire weapon is just the dream of jumping soldiers and Is so fun

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

Yeah it’s great. I’m probably gonna try to learn it “properly” over the next little while because it’s so fun to jump with

[@techwizsmith7963]

I watched a video forever ago about a Beggars main that was extremely good at rocket jumping with its unique mechanics, and that's the only reason I started maining it. Such a unique Troldier playstyle potential

[@ammi5311]

Or remind of airshot becomes a no when they aren't literally in your face , hit one and know you have minus skill for hitting that one , also prop riding scouts

[@anstorner]

Also It's great since means being an trolldier no longer means being an 0 to the team anymore, so it's good if you want to go other places than hightower and harvest

[@Learner0012]

One thing to consider: the fan might not always be the best in helping YOU secure a kill, but instead helps ensure that someone else dies. There is very much a difference, since you can also get out of it a postmortem trade. It's also very much a mileage may vary weapon depending on your kit and approach. Most instances, you've used it and sat right on the target, but have you considered hit and run strats? Find a target, smack him, and pepper away at him. The mark sits on the target for 15 irremovable seconds after all. That's a tremendously long time in this game. Just my thoughts on it.

[@rejvaik00]

It's amazing how much more you can appreciate team fortress 2 when you're actively hindering yourself and not just running the meta day in and day out

[@Not_Nickel]

Honestly I love the Beggar’s, I love using it to bomb into the enemy, then.. *die to fall damage..* Edit: 8:00 *that miss hurt me*

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

I literally flicked to the ground for no reason, I think I was possessed or something LMAO

[@Not_Nickel]

@@SeaRavioli-TF2 Weirdly, the same thing happened to me before.

[@kailaine3974]

The beggars is pretty good imo. No fire precision is definitely a liability, but the mobility options it gives are insane

[@denifnaf5874]

Also you can go up to a demoman Call him a spy But right before soldier says spy you press G

[@Pudding404]

The loosecannon and the beggars are actually very similar, especially the mobility in exchange for health. Didn't know you could do that with the LC. A very informative video, and thanks for doing something other than the force-a-nature for a gimmick scout weapon.

[@arrangar]

I HATE how channels like yours have such little sub counts. Honestly, you should have like 300k. Your content is awesome.

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

Haha thank you so much, we’re getting there!

[@DeslikKarcasso]

As someone with a Hale's Own Classic, I feel I should throw in my two cents here. It does require a more passive playstyle compared to quickscoping with a normal sniper, but you essentially become an instakill sentry at any range with much more visibility than a normal sniper. Scope in for long range shots when necessary but stay scooed out for more map awareness. You're also even more of a menace to overconfident aggressive heavies. The ability to delete someone with a point blank 450 damage headshot is very potent, and even a 130 bodyshot will rid you of any light class that approaches you. If you try to play it like a normal sniper, you're going to be disappointed. Pretend you're a huntsman sidegrade, if that mindset makes it easier for you.

[@Ali365]

Like what lazypurple said, the loose cannon feels like sticky spamming.

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

Haha for sure, it's definitely an experience

[@estlin2001]

Honestly I've grown to enjoy the FAN and FON combo purely for the fact snipers facing you the split second before flying across the room is hilarious

[@resell_enjoy6]

When you say "Loose Cannon" are you speaking of "the dopamine machine?"

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

You know it

[@arkenn3497]

Great video :D Though I have a few things to say about the Fan-O-War : -The best weapons to use with this are the Scattergun (obviously), and the Soda Popper sing it doesn't push enemies away and has better burst damage -In medieval mode, it's surprisingly fun to mindlessly swing this weapon around, mark every enemy for death and get every assist under the sun

[@Xero-Space]

As someone who's favorite weapons are every single one in this video save for the fan o war and huntsman, im so glad this video exists. I've got 2k kills and double donks on my loose cannon (rip my muscle memory for not using it in months), and I've been having a blast with the beggar's recently. I'm glad you mentioned Antoni since that's who got me into using it and I genuinely can't imagine playing soldier without the beggar's now

[@acrosyy420]

I was waiting for this moment, keep the good work mate 🧡

[@QuicksliceFilms]

just got done with your subclass video, really enjoy this type of tf2 content. Especially highlighting less used weapons. keep it up!

[@shovelgaming52]

Found your channel last night and watched all your videos, just to find a new one today. I'm excited to watch this one, keep up the awesome work

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

[@baronbacku9984]

holy fuck, this editing and commentary is absolutely top-tier

[@MVCuber]

No way you have only 6k subs. Earned a subscriber.

[@tzman215]

Great video! Please bring us more :)

[@CPTN-TRK]

Dude I like your editing style 🔥

[@jalontf2]

I'm gonna blow your mind and say that running Demo with Pain Train, Chargin Targe, and Loose Cannon on payload offense is OP Just stay on the cart and knock away anyone that comes at you

[@Patata39]

Dude your videos are so good how do you not have more subs.

[@Iteration456-8_codename_goblin]

When it comes to the beggars you either suck and sniff glue Or sniff enough glue to become an elevated being Currently trying to go for the most glue consumed in one sitting and so far the weapon works wonders

[@spinomitegames9000]

I hadn't seen someone cannon jump into a double-donk before. But the first two minutes changed that. Excellent work!

[@TheStudioArchitect]

Great video! As an avid Lucksman user, I'm glad you found it enjoyable! :D

[@zeeko7405]

it was fun playing in that pub with you :) have a good day

[@Fatsaver]

The Classic can still one shot every class compared to the Sydney Sleeper which has really no purpose.

[@BigBreakfast]

i really love your videos already! can't wait to stick around for more (also surprised there's *another* soldier main that runs killer exclusive AND has a double-spelled, festivized rocket launcher lmfao)

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

Haha thank you! And you’ve got good taste in cosmetics 😎😎

[@pelonio6181]

A very useful mechanic of the loose Cannon that most players forget is it's insane knockback, when running the stickybomb launcher as a primary dmg source the loose Cannon is god-tier at getting aggressive scouts or soldiers (any class for that matter) pushed back to mid range right where the sticky bombs can quickly detonate and demoman is at his strongest.

[@YesItsChris.]

Your editing is amazing, I cannot believe you only have 6k subs! Don’t get me wrong that’s a lot but you deserve way more.

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

Thank you! We're on the way up 😎

[@thehollidayexperience]

It feels so weird to see that you only have 4 videos right now. The quality of these vids just makes it feel like there should be so much more of a backlog

[@frog_phone]

man ur getting good at this

[@siradameldmerdash]

Holy shit! From your editing and video quality i thought you were a popular tf2 youtuber who i just didnt know! Your amazing man! Already a big fan from egypt and in gonna binge your vids rn!

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

Thank you so much! I'm glad you're enjoying the vids :)

[@Autisticjesus]

It’s nice watching another KZbinr starting up who you know is gonna hit it big

[@virtualcakee]

I thought inwad watcjing a 100k plus subbed youtube channel, man, why is this video so well made for someone with such a low sub count to back it, you need more.

[@FurPeltKishin]

Hey I just played a game with you on upward a few hours ago! I was streaming to my friend on discord and we both pointed out "This soldier has a sick hat", so when I saw this video come up and recommended I recognized your pfp! (We were on the same team, I was playing spy and Beggar's soldier, which is REALLY ironic considering the video! 😂) It's nice to see new tf2 youtubers popping up now. Subbed

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

Hahaha that’s awesome, I appreciate the support! PS: my hat says thanks 😎

[@Beninator174]

All I can say is that I’m a day one’er! I’ve been watching your videos since the start and I’m excited to see where you go! You deserve more subs

[@simplyeyeronic1443]

Love the video! Hope to one day see more of tf2s whacky arsenal that we don't talk about as much on display, like the airstrike or the baby faces blaster.

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

You will be delighted by the next video :)

[@simplyeyeronic1443]

👀

[@untextured4240]

The fan o war pairs really well with the soda popper or the shortstop, the force a nature is one of the worst to pair it with and it’s also a better idea to use it as a support tool rather a weapon

[@AzureAleYT]

The loose cannon is my main weapon, it was the first alert item i received and i never figured out itd full power. I simply treated it like the stock grenade launcher. Thanks for telling me how to use it!

[@dasnivs]

Never knew the Loose Cannon could be considered bad, it can go real crazy with the knockback and with the double donks. Also, Classic is nice against second scoping snipers. Force em to get their shot first or be gibbed when you charge around a corner.

[@markkump9344]

high quality video and only 6k subs, new subscriber right here bro

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

Thank you thank you

[@XnerzTheNerd]

To me the best worst weapon is the huntsman

[@frog2098]

After seeing Antoni using the beggars I started only using that weapon for months straight and I honestly think it's the 2nd best rocket launcher now. Doing 1 overload jump and then shooting 2 rockets instantly at someone is so good at getting kills. And the movement with the weapon might be the most fun thing ever

[@junkmail103]

Dude a good beggars bazooka soldier is actually the scariest thing in the game

[@MrModez]

Bro, I'm getting so much nostalgia, I forgot how fun it was trying out new weapons in TF2 lol

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

Haha it’s surprisingly nice to mix things up now and then

[@soundwave8475]

The Beggar's Bazooka is also really, really great for Mann vs. Machine if you ever try it there

[@Sleepy_5Ads]

“Dude im so bad with this thing!” *the scout fucking teleporting*

[@OctoLemon06]

It’s great having the loose cannon and being able to just say no to an ubered heavy and then proceed to knock them back further that where they started the Uber

[@Electric_Embers]

ayyyy! let's go, Hive knight boss battle music for the intro!!!

[@mason5137]

the way i see the fan o war and the classic, you should use them as support tools. If you're low on health as scout with no health packs around, maybe marking someone (or shooting in the classic's case) could be useful for clearing a chokepoint

[@joshuashilo9914]

It's a great day when searavioli uploads

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

🙏

[@jellynikitakudlaj6609]

I like the classic backpack healing melee combo as you can tap fire your enemies then crit melee them also good to jump charge before korners to insta body shot 4 out of the 9 classes and then shot again if you are far away or melee if close it has a very aggressive plaistile Side note:love your channel hope more people subscribe

[@Mottenprophet]

FanoWar is for the times when pocketed heavy or soldier stomp the team and no singe man is capable to take down one or another by raw damage. I love the idea that some weapons is not made for using it in every single battle and have such a niche uses

[@NCR_trooper-69]

Running up to the face of a heavy as a scout is Genius

[@jefesusmuel8392]

the fan o war goes kinda crazy with the shortstop, but you do have to play less like a scout and more like a pyro with the dragon's fury. It might also help to use a pistol just in case.

[@ElloDere]

I used to use scatter gun, milk and fan o war as my loadout and it would work alot back when i was playing tf2 constantly

[@blacklight683]

I enjoy bagger's and loose canon, and i do believe if you somehow manage to consistently double donk you basicly got 30%damage buff and the ability to airblast ubers as demo and from far And baggers is baggers eazy to use and super effective...till you get ambushed

[@tristenx]

before this video i didn't know you could charge the Loose Cannon

[@jamp6167]

Jesus that editing -Chefs Kiss-

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

[@Yatsuzume]

Barnblitz plank jump is goated, huge if you wanna help out your explosive jumpers as medic

[@benwilkins9070]

The classic for me has 2 uses. 1: Killing cheaters. Your charge it up, then when they appear, whabam. insta kill. 2: Sniper duals. You can move around at normal speed when scoped if your not charging. Mess up the other sniper.

[@TheBalkanJoker]

I guess one Australian that dressed up as spy and ran around Sydney had a big impact on the tf2 youtube community

[@kokioen]

Without having played with the loose Cannon (or played TF2 for at least a few years), it strikes me as similar to the direct hit. Both of them requires a great deal of accuracy and removes or at least reduces your ability to spam a crowd for area denial. But the trade-off is significantly increased damage if you can adjust your playstyle and land your shots

[@megamania9393]

i feel that using the fan with the short stop would be a good idea

[@fluxyterminator6508]

Holy crap, thanks pyro, that is a sick jump.

[@Just.Ben_]

The Loose Cannon actually synergizes really well with the Quickiebomb Launcher, as the shorter charge time lets you launch bombs outside of the LC’s effective range, getting in that little bit of extra chip damage you may need to finish someone off with a Double Donk.

[@ChronicallyOn]

In the first minute to the fresh content. You love to see it

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

Gotta love it 😎

[@JaguarPanda]

The loose cannon is so good at denying ubers and disrupting pushes, it's not so good for attack but great for defense

[@JoSephGD]

The Fan O'War is actually very viable in MVM, as is the Beggar's Bazooka. That just goes to show how different vanilla TF2 is from MVM.

[@Rickythaias82]

Very underrated editing :)

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

thank you thank you :)

[@Rickythaias82]

@@SeaRavioli-TF2 np :)

[@Rickythaias82]

@@SeaRavioli-TF2 u deserve it

[@rastabananaman206]

The classic is actually pretty fun and decently good when you don’t only no scope. For example you can charge a shot then turn the corner and have a full view of the battlefield to pick a target and to get a fully charged scoped shot immediately. It’s pretty cool. Aka fully charged quickscopes which is nuts (even though there is some setup)

[@mightyz8382]

they made an achievement that makes you melee classic users for a reason

[@pigg1619]

I’m not gonna lie, the Loose Cannon is my favorite primary for demo, I was always better at it than stock lol

[@013wolfwarrior]

My most epic moment with the Huntsman was, in goldrush, second phaze, attacking team, were boxed in our spawn and theyre pushing in, ubered heavy coming, medic ubers me because the rest of the team is either dead or running back in spawn, me quick thinking might as well try, and I tauntkilled the ubered heavy.

[@tsuaririndoku]

Fan O War is actually quite useful when using with the Popper. Because it fills the meter a lot quicker which makes you becomes a Bird scout more often.

[@snorpus]

1.7k hours and i never knew about that flank route

[@hodgepodgethecardboardwossum]

As a classic main, it doubles as good rage bait

[@peika8324]

Fan o war in par well with scatter gun and pistol you can effectively duel a heavy straight on if you get the first strike

[@nobodynobody3187]

Heya! Fan o War user here, I run it with the pretty boys pistol and baby faces blaster-it's situational, but certainly secures me more kills then my atomizer would.

[@ericoneill-thomas8492]

The fan can be really good if you know how to use it but I do admit that it can be hard to get good with

[@bennyboyo9008]

I love your editing dude, what software do you use?

[@SeaRavioli-TF2]

Thanks! I used Premiere Pro for everything in this video!

[@nooshstuff]

Something important about the Huntsman headshot zones, it doesn't apply if there's a hitbox in the path of the arrow, only if it enters the collision box but just skims the actual character hitboxes.

[@evanandrews2993]

The loos canon is also a pretty good anti pyro weapon as its harder to do reflects with it

[@mrlampy]

sniper needs a secondary that buffs his primary whilst unscoped. Something like “35% faster charge speed while unscoped” for all of the huntsman and the (singular) classic enjoyers out there

[@aruan7sp]

The Fan o War paired with the Force a Nature has an interesting use case: you can 1 shot Medics

[@ZoofyZoof]

now do the rest of the weapons

[@ethbeatthem4836]

The Fan-O-War need to be paired with pistols and either stock or shortstop get gain it’s best effects. Marking is great if a weapon doesn’t have low ammo pool or can’t deal damage. Also good if there no sniper and you want soldier to snipe the medic.

[@privatetrolldier5640]

Beggars in mvm ends up being a rocket launcher machine gun.

[@gmanplaysgames256]

a good Beggar's Soldier is an absolute MENACE. he could appear literally anywhere at anytime and stuff 3 rockets into your face whenever he wants.

[@NCR_trooper-69]

Fan o War with the pocket pistol is nasty

[@berk__17]

How do you put that text on the right side? The which tells you when someone gets hurt, uber activated etc.

[@thewolfstu]

2:20 MMMMH, Love those juicy Cannon Ball Crits