Are The 85-86 Celtics The GREATEST Team Ever? (GOAT Team Series #1)

[@jonnyarnett]

Could any team beat the 1986 Celtics?

[@Technoshirt]

Jonny Arnett -NBA KZbinr 2016 warriors

[@jnp6]

Jonny Arnett -NBA KZbinr 2017 spurs are underrated

[@alextheavatar189]

MJ and the bulls? Edit: 72-10 bulls

[@dobz746]

Nope they are not. Its the 2017 Warriors. C'mon they have 4 all-stars same as the 86 Celtics but the 17 Warriors have 2 Current and Previous MVPs on their Prime in Durant and Curry together wherein they might end up in the top 10-15 all time greatest list when they retire together with the top 3 best shooter of all time when he retires in Klay and you can't say about that with Mchale, Parish and Dennis Johnson.

[@Technoshirt]

Nigel Pang they didn’t even make the finals stfu

[@elijah_coursey_84]

The Celtics also had a 40-1 home record in the '85-'86 regular season.

[@johnanderson5156]

Only team to beat them was the Trail Blazers.

[@yesmymajestybut898]

Jetbaton 13 therefore the goat team is the trailblazers lol

[@at1212b]

MJ could have won in game 2, but he only got 2 free throws for a 3 pt foul as per rules then. But what would have been better for the legacy? 63 pts in a loss and being called 'God' or a win against this mighty legendary team?

[@__ike8604]

Imagine waiting all year to go to your first ever celtics game and its the only home loss that year lmao

[@ernestboykin3rd706]

@@__ike8604 listen my man I'm 39 yrs old in 1995 the Cleveland Indians had 1 of the greatest teams and seasons of all time Ab Ramirez Thome Baerga Lofton Vizquel Eddie Murray Orel Hershisher and they were unbeatable at home it seemed that yr. That summer me and my pops went to a 3-1 loss lol smh.

[@FoxUnitNell]

The celtics were the best example of fundamentals over high end techniques: they moved the ball well, they passed to look for the open player, they shot the ball well from midrange and beyond. Other teams that followed the playbook more than try to be creative were 90's utah, and 00's Marvicks but they weren't as sucessful as the 80's celtics.

[@CommentEnthusiast]

What u talking about, they flashy too

[@antonchizhov4419]

And Spurs, especially the '12-'14 squads

[@ovathere93]

And they pushed it up Court hard

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

You forgot about pretty much ALL of the Popovich-coached Spurs teams. They're the real heirs to the "team orientated strong on fundamentals" Celtics teams of the mid 1950s-early 1990s.

[@chuckweicha1]

There was nothing like the way these guys passed...I fell in love with '14 Spurs because the way they passed reminded me of the '86 Celtics and any team that Jason Kidd or Magic was on they had an impact on

[@markflores6104]

Larry Bird is one of the greatest of all time.

[@cristianosala5332]

Top 5-6 hands down

[@Romamb]

No shit Sherlock

[@jingqi9106]

GOAT

[@TrumpFanNetwork2]

You should be a detective... What were the clues? Everybody else saying the same thing, or did you actually watch him play? 🤣😂🤣😂

[@Moses44476ers]

The only thing other players have over Bird is longevity... Bird was banged up with a bad back and achilles surgery later in his career... In his prime Bird was the best that ever played

[@JimMacintosh]

This is such a great channel

[@lancevelarde7022]

Totally deserves more subs

[@andreasvogel4163]

Thats exactly what i think watching every single video

[@phanthomzm]

Agreed

[@lancevelarde7022]

Unpopular opinions

[@James-hq1yv]

@Royce Yaroshuk So how is his voice supposed to sound?

[@ivanwilson8038]

A lot of people don't know that Kevin Mchale was a beast

[@travisray2934]

Him and Barkley might be the two most disrespected and/or underrated players in history.

[@MaximusWolfe]

@@travisray2934 Barkley gets a lot more respect as a player than Mchale ever did. Kevin was the best power forward of the 80’s and very few people out there will even say that. But Barkley certainly hadn’t eclipsed him by ‘89 And Karl Malone, while quiet a player, never had the dominant inside game that Mchale did until the early 90’s. Even then Malone was never as impossible to stop in the low post.

[@travisray2934]

@@MaximusWolfe Oh dont get me wrong, I am a huuuge McHale fan. I agree, he's probably the most unstoppable low post player there was. But the younger generations think Barkley was a joke because they only see him get dogged by Shaq on Inside the NBA, I dont even know if the younger guys know who Kevin McHale is to be honest lol. Which is a damn shame because his game is a lost art, can you imagine someone with his length and skill set playing today?

[@skatei]

He looked like a human that wasn't meant to be that big, and like he was about to fall apart. I guess that's why he was underestimated so much.

[@sheli5483]

Would have loved to see him match up against Duncan.

[@markjackson6431]

their passing is just beautiful

[@kurtmagnus5243]

Danny ainge was a great perimeter shooter as well

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

Danny was more of an outside shooter than Larry early on - then Larry gets picked for the first 3 Point Shootout, starts putting some SERIOUS practice into the shot, and the rest is history.

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

@Coatesville Red Raiders Most if not all outside shooters and 3-point shooters in particular are streaky. Even folks like Dampier, Bird, Nash, Miller, etc had off nights - and HOT nights.

[@bricefleckenstein9666]

@Coatesville Red Raiders And Bird wasn't taking the 3 point shot seriously YET at that point - which just made him MORE dangerous when he started doing so.

[@sugarnads]

He doesnt get enough respect. Solid team man and a great shooter.

[@Amick44]

@@bricefleckenstein9666 true. Very few jump shooters didn't go thru some dry spells. I would say Mark Price, Walter Davis, maybe George Gervin went thru fewer slumps than other outside shooters. My take from what & who I've seen.

[@celtics17banners84]

It’s crazy that some of my favorite Celtic videos on KZbin came from a Laker fan. Lmao. Great video

[@moeball740]

I'm amazed that when Robert Parish went out - and he was one of the very best centers in the league - they would actually get better when Walton came in off the bench. Never seen anything like it. Destroyed any hope opposing teams might have of getting back into the game, especially in the Garden.

[@Ssnig]

Underrated channel imo I'm a new nba fan and from this channel I learned a lot about the 80s, 90s, and 2000s basketball Keep it up dude.

[@dabarnes12]

In all the classic hardwood videos, I've never seen 5 players walk together more confident than 86 Celtics. They really did put on a clinic.

[@maxstrom5450]

Jonny Arnett is the best Laker's fan for being so objective and fair on the videos about the Celtics. As a Celtics fan, I'm not sure that before the tragic loss of Kobe Bryant, any of us would publicly give the Lakers praise for anything ever. Much respect

[@mjjohnson9925]

They are definitely top 3 of my 40 years of watching along with '87 Lakers and '96 Bulls. I won't argue hard for or against any of those three.

[@elliota.1063]

Yeah, the '87 Lakers Finals were when I started watching basketball. Growing up in Philly, we hated the Celtics but usually lost to them, and then I see the Lakers just MANHANDLE the Celtics in '87. I was like, "Who is this wonderful team sent straight from heaven?" I've pretty much have been an NBA fan since then...

[@mjjohnson9925]

@@elliota.1063 A healthy Walton made Boston sooo much better in '86. The Lakers adding Thompson the next season was equally important. Without Thompson, '87 Lakers can't beat '86 Celtics and visa versa. Great basketball.

[@l9ikjam]

You could put most of the bulls championship teams as one of the greatest.

[@reymiguelperez6643]

@@elliota.1063 Should have watched this "team from heaven" in 1985 though LOL. They beat the Celtics in their home floor in their first Finals win against them on that year too.

[@shanesawyer5103]

What about the ‘83 76ers?

[@dawkinsbeagle]

A GOAT team series? Excellent idea, I'm already looking forward to the rest of this!

[@davidherdman9798]

In a 26 (29?) game stretch all 5 Celtic starters scored in DOUBLE FIGURES. This is a testament to unselfishness, and to making that extra pass. All 5 starters are in the Hall of Fame, but, personally, that is because Bird basically forced them to bring up their game if they wanted the pass from him. As a result, the other teams had to guard everyone all the time. Look at the way Jerry Sichting used to be left open, and would drain shots. Look at the way Walton would share the ball to the open person, most often Bird. That extra pass that was made caused havoc for the other teams. Their defensive rotations were disrupted dramatically. Yes, some of this was KC Jones. But mostly it was Bird making very timely and accurate passes. It was a pleasure to watch, for sure.

[@ShaneJoshua1980]

I see Jonny Arnett, I see Basketball...I click. SIMPLES

[@nicholasgjefferson5474]

ShaneJoshua1980 *SSSIMPLE*

[@ShaneJoshua1980]

@@nicholasgjefferson5474 The phrase is from a UK ad😉

[@jaycob1830]

My dad who grew up watching 80’s and early 90’s nba has always said this is the greatest passing team he’s ever seen

[@jamesmeuwissen7823]

More teams I would like to see: 50 Lakers 64 Celtics 67 Sixers 71 Bucks 72 Lakers 83 Sixers 87 Lakers 96 Bulls 01 Lakers 03 Spurs 12 Heat 17 Warriors

[@ultibolt3286]

I would rather see the 62 Celtics and I would rather see the 13 Heat but still a good list. I definitely want to see the 67 sixers and the 71 lakers. I think that replacing the 01 lakers with the 2000 lakers would also be better because they faced better competition and won way more games.

[@darrellboone9274]

No '69,or '73 Knicks?🤯

[@Brbos06]

That's a really good list. I wish more people gave credit to the late 40's/early 50's teams. Yes, the game has changed substantially, and no the skill level was not the same as it was by the mid 60s, but within their own era the best front court ever was Mikan, Mikkelsen, and Pollard. They were the Bird/McHale/Parrish of that time, and the second best front court ever, if we're comparing inside of their own era.

[@jamesmeuwissen7823]

@@darrellboone9274 69 they didn't win the championship. That was 70

[@jamesmeuwissen7823]

@@ultibolt3286 I think the 2000 Lakers with mvp Shaq would be better too, but the 01 Lakers 16-1 postseason can't be ignored

[@nathanrobinson3653]

They had cool nicknames--DJ, Mr. Automatic (McHale), Chief (Parish), Big Red (Walton), Larry Legend, Hick from French Lick. They lost 1 home game that year (40-1). Larry was the leader, the brain, set the tone for hustle, defense, and mental toughness, and he would come through in the clutch and make whatever play was needed. I saw a different, more inclusive definition for 'game-winner' or 'buzzer-beater' that included game-tying shots that led to OT or last shots that won the game that weren't at the buzzer and Bird had 33 of those I think in 12 seasons of play more or less if you consider missed time for surgeries or injury and topped the list--and again, in 11 or 12 seasons, not 16 or 20. On top of that, they were winning big a lot (9.4 pt margin of victory) and probably had limited opportunities for 'buzzer-beaters'. Larry has the 2nd highest career win percentage All-Time --2nd to Magic by a hair. Those Lakers were pretty decked-out when Magic got there compared to Bird's Celtics but Larry still took them to a league-best 61-21. I kinda felt like, top-to-bottom, the best Laker team with Pat Riley, Kareem, Magic, Cooper, Scott, Worthy, Rambis, Thompson had more talent overall than the Celtics, but the Celtics had Larry Bird and that enhanced his guys in a way that even superceded Magic's impact as great as his impact was and Bird could just take over at anytime, especially in the fourth, and the Lakers didn't have a scorer like that that could get any shot he wanted from anywhere at anytime and make it. That's what makes the 85-86 Celtics the All-Time team to me. When you sweep Jordan back-to-back, Olajuwon, and just dominate and put on a clinic for the league, lose 1 home game, move the ball and have a rock-solid unselfish, everyone knows their role and the sets, lunchpail, punch-the-clock identity and have fun while doing it, and know your the best, and have Larry Bird--it's All-Time great and basketball at the highest level I have seen.

[@cashmoneysniper4166]

The best NBA KZbinr to ever do it.

[@acpliego]

Eazymoneysniper definitely top 3.

[@jingqi9106]

Excellent video, Jonny. That Boston team was the best Boston team of the decade and one of the greatest teams, if not the greatest team of all-time. They were the best passing team I've ever seen and that includes the '77 Blazers (Bill Walton at his peak), the '72 Lakers (Jerry West led the NBA in assists and averaged over 25 pts a game), the '75 Warriors team (Rick Barry averaged 30 pts and was a GREAT passer along with great team basketball), and any of the recent Warrior teams. The '86 Boston team was so efficient with very little wasted motion and had the added dimension of a healthy Walton that was one of the greatest passing centers of all time. Watching Walton and Bird work together was extreme high level basketball and was a rare treat, too bad it was so brief. That Boston team is the best team I ever saw.

[@chuckweicha1]

'86 Celtics passing is still fun to watch with Bird and Walton and DJ zinging the ball all over the place baseball passes, between guys legs other teams got mesmerized and Celtics got so many open shots...'14 Spurs were only modern team that was close, '87 Lakers but that was all Magic and '77/'78 Blazers and that was mostly Walton...he was so good they ran the wheel play and had him at the top of the key making the passes like a point guard

[@jeraldvincentzumel5300]

That Celtics team was the Spurs of the 80s. People call the 80s players plumbers and accountants. They don't realize the Spurs did the exact same thing in the modern day era.

[@haad999]

but imo Celtics played more entertaining basketball than the Spurs.

[@jeraldvincentzumel5300]

@@haad999 regardless. They both played team basketball. Extra passes, full ball movement.

[@deathtoideologues]

The decade that saved the league. How sadly ignorant are millennials they never got to watch the greatest era in the history of sports, 80's NBA. I'd put an all star team of these players against any decade.

[@MichaelSevilla97]

​@@deathtoideologuesrespect to those 80s legends but they're getting beat by all star teams from this century the league is clearly more talented and better this century ✌️

[@deathtoideologues]

@@MichaelSevilla97 I'd be rotating Jordan, Kobe, Payton and Pippen on Steph constantly. Would be fun game to watch.

[@jamiecampbell3068]

This team was so gooooooood' .. .. that the city still rides on these fumes 35 years later. They were awesome.

[@cjbrown420]

86' Rockets beat the show time Lakers in WCF in 5 and took the 86 Celtics to 6 gotta give Houston credit that year

[@wingstop5541]

Hakeem was also a young man. Bird was in his prime. Both are in my top 3 favorite players of all time.

[@cjbrown420]

@@wingstop5541 it just makes me wonder how they would have rank that rockets Team had they won it all against who Was the best all time team

[@Moses44476ers]

@@cjbrown420 Rockets were a team on the rise and the future looked great until injuries stopped Sampson.... Rockets could have traded Sampson to the Blazers for the Clyde Drexler and 2nd pick in 84 and taken Jordan but turned down the deal.

[@duydo6924]

@@Moses44476ers Houston still got two chips out of Hakeem though so it's all good.

[@FuShengAlex]

No team in NBA history faced 2 teams in b2b series as great as the 85-86 Rockets. The 62-20 Lakers (won 3 out of 4 titles that sandwiched 85-86) and the 67-15 GOAT tier Celtics. If lucas wasnt suspended Houston coulda pushed Boston to 7 games. The manner which they beat los Angeles......maybe the greatest underdog playoff series win in history

[@maxdobasquete]

❤I was just watching your LATEST post about LeTravel decision and wondered if THIS Boston team was one of THE VERY BEST THREE HEADED MONSTER TEAM EVER... And VOILLÁ 🔥! I FOUND THIS ONE OF YOUR EXCELLENT CONTENT 👏🏼 👌🏼 👍🏼 💪🏼🏀💪🏼🏀💪🏼🏀

[@maxdobasquete]

Larry LEGEND Bird, Kevin TORTURE CHAMBER McHalle and Robert THE CHIEF Parish were, without a doubt SCARY NOT ONLY ON DEFENSE, AND I JUST DON'T EVEN NEED TO TALK ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR OFFENSIVE GAME 😉!!! 💪🏼🏀💪🏼🏀💪🏼🏀

[@robwasilewski9273]

Imagine if len bias didn't pass away the 86-87 season would be killer

[@saebyeolbe_2835]

Looking forward to this series! I'm a huge sixers fan so I'm hoping for a 1983 Sixers video!

[@elliota.1063]

Yeah, '83 Sixers have been overlooked in the "greatest team ever" conversation. That year, they ran through EVERYONE. "Fo, 'fo, 'fo..."

[@TK-mf2fr]

The east was so tough in the 80's!! Any time that survived was definitely battle tested and probably at a disadvantage. No disrespect to the lakers but the west wasn't close to the same

[@TK-mf2fr]

The Milwaukee bucks were a GREAT TEAM but they couldn't get thru bcuz of the Celtics and Sixers and then Detroit.

[@morewithles2738]

@@TK-mf2fr AMEN to that! Thomas Keefe I felt sorry for the Bucks in the 80's

[@asymptoticspatula]

I love your videos. Thanks for all of your hard work. They are very professional.

[@Romamb]

Possibly a little rushed. The editing sticks out also unfortunately. But i hope he improves as his stuff is really good.

[@mark-xc7oq]

this series gonna be 🔥

[@LuisCruz-fy2jg]

Always look forward to new videos, click on them as soon as I see em lol

[@domenicantonelli1451]

This makes me feel so old and I pine for a Celtics team like this again. Showtime without the showboating. Great footage. Excellent breakdown and analysis.

[@vintagemonte]

Been waiting on this series!! 🔥

[@retrosoul8770]

I'm relatively new getting into classic basketball, but your channel has made that immensely easier. Awesome stuff

[@tisdalelucas924]

I love your videos brotha! Great breakdown and insight; epecially on this one...can't wait for the rest of this G.O.A.T team series ✊🏽

[@johnnyreed8537]

One thing I loved about the '86 Celtics squad was despite having five hall of famers, they were incredibly unselfish. The ball moved like poetry in motion to find the open man. Today's players are totally different and their selfishness and massive egos prevents stars from bring cohesive and team oriented...

[@akselmarazyan4613]

Bird mchale and parish is one of the greatest frontcourts of all time (people forget that mchale and parish were amazing back in the day)

[@richardmilliken8705]

Bill Walton-Greatest 6th player of all-time from the 1986 Celtic's Basketball Team.

[@tab207]

It was the greatest era of basketball so to be the greatest team from the greatest era speaks for itself

[@genaudreyh4412]

And then MJ haters would say "He drop 63 and still lost to the 86 Celtics" Funny coz even the Heat's big 3 of James, Bosh and Wade would also lose to that team.

[@anthonyhutchins2300]

The MJ haters are stupid... This Celtics team was the best team ever period at the time. The Bulls won 30 games that year lol. Jordan was a second year player coming off a broken weight bearing bone. Jordan took some time to ascend to the unstoppable force he was. That would be like blaming LeBron for losing to that 07 Spurs team.

[@masonrudolphsbae6225]

Anthony Hutchins but it was LeBron’s fault tho

[@zackarmstrong.3089]

Mason Rudolph’s Bae but nobody ever considered those Spurs teams in the 2000’s to be a dynasty because they won sporadically and never consecutively. It’s not even like Lebron got swept and played well. He got swept and played horribly in the 2007 finals he avg 22ppg shooting 35% from the field and 20% from 3. Also note that when Jordan returned from his injury and played the Celtics in 86, he was in his 2nd season. Lebron played the Spurs in 07 which was his 4th season

[@keres9580]

@@anthonyhutchins2300 I mean I understand you

[@joshuachang5210]

@@zackarmstrong.3089 aaaand the Celtics in the 80s didn’t win consecutive champs either duh

[@creatorsremose]

Awesome video, thank you. Makes me feel even more fortunate for having seen them live on TV.

[@Dr.GillPeakPerformance_DPT]

This is going to be an awesome series!

[@MohanJan1954]

Unbelievable team and selfless play. Their matches against the Lakers were the most exciting to watch even today. NBA produced so many great players in that decade, that it was sublime.

[@fuehdnsjwisj8097]

Imagine if Bill Walton didn't have those injuries that forced him to be a 6th man.

[@shaq9838]

Then he might stay in Portland longer

[@whatever_it_takes6691]

Still had The Chief though

[@milosmiljanovic]

This channel is criminally underrated!

[@contrarian23]

Can’t discuss this team without referencing the 3rd quarter of game 5, ECSF. The Celtics absolutely eviscerated a very good Hawks team, 36-6, in what might the greatest 12 minutes of basketball any club has ever played.

[@artr1059]

It's nice to see your channel is growing and getting more popular. You deserve it! Keep continue doing so well

[@jun813]

Your channel is so underrated. Great contents!

[@BDUBZ49]

How is it underrated?

[@SIMSCITY69]

great video i really look forward to your videos keep up the good work

[@jonathanblaze1648]

I grew up as a child of the 80's in Detroit. I was 8 years old in 1986 and absolutely hated the Celtics. The Pistons were tough and very good but we could never beat the C's, it was so frustrating. Bird was great, but everyone knows this. What I would tell people is that Kevin McHale is the greatest low post player I've ever seen. Better than Olajuwon. Nobody could stop him from scoring in the post. The 1986 Celtics would be very tough for any team in NBA history in a 7 game series. Win or lose it's going to be a tough 6 or 7 game series.

[@georgeretsides4293]

Great vid as always Johnny. Do a video on the 83 Sixers

[@elnardowebster2842]

This is the Standard for greatness. Three Finals MVPs, plus McHale, Parish, Ainge. Just....Goodbye.

[@MichaelGibbons-uk2mc]

Not to mention Walton as your SIXTH man!! Maybe best passing center of all time.

[@elnardowebster2842]

@@MichaelGibbons-uk2mc yes!!!

[@sonnyandreotte5721]

its so hard coming from that era an loving how the game used to be played, to now. I just cant do it. I just wish the nba could put all the games from 1980 to 1993 on blu ray so i could just watch that.

[@realmichaud]

yep, I watched a basketball game a bit a go, say a year or so, and they suck compared to how they played back then

[@jvdnfthzd1335]

Great video, people sleep on 85-86 Celtics. I hope that next one is 71-72 Lakers.

[@Romamb]

Also 67 Philadelphia

[@anachin13]

The quality of your vids bro, amazing. Idk why you haven't gotten a million subscribers.

[@surfshack2]

The seed for developing the best team was planted when Bird was drafted in 1978.

[@Moses44476ers]

Nobody could beat the 86 Celtics! They were too versatile...too skilled. Great video Johny! Credit where credit is due!

[@dannybautista8669]

Powerhouse NBA Team 1986 Boston Celtics!

[@pokerpat6470]

Hands down the Greatest team in NBA history. They were virtually unbeatable and that was in the 80s. The era of the Superstars. Their only weakness was that they were soooo good they would get bored at times and take their foot off the gas. Otherwise they could beat you in any way they chose. The best front line in history. Awesome backcourt and bench and of course the G.O.A.T.🏀

[@powerboatguy2308]

I agree. The Celtics were completely committed to win and it did not matter who got the points. The court vision that all of them had was incredible. McHale was essentially as skilled as Tim Duncan, but did have to shoulder the offense, Bird was deadly anywhere on the court and would translate good in today's NBA.

[@mormanfreegan545]

Johnny Arnett, JMXY Highroller, and Golden Hoops are my top 3 basketball KZbinrs. No particular order

[@owenparker6651]

I'll check out Golden Hoops, love the other two. Give Chase Chats a look. Some excellent content, a real up and comer IMHO...

[@oglegacy4086]

Saw episode 5 on youtube had to go back and watch all of them

[@stevesibaja3123]

The 80's Old School Larry Bird🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀

[@vsharma1982]

I just want to say that Jonny know's his basketball history and does thurough research, In addtion to bringing up some amazing facts that get over looked.

[@darkknightsds]

They get my vote for best team of all time. Other teams like Jordan's Bulls were better over a longer period of time, but good Lord they had BILL WALTON as their SIXTH MAN. To me that says it all. I'll take them over the Bulls, Warriors, Spurs or Lakers from other eras.

[@ja8ames]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking: a healthy Walton as the 6th man, quite a thing to be able to say.

[@zepmarq]

Great vids, buddy. Keep up the great work. 🍻

[@louisvelez40]

I hope this proves why this 86 celtics team is one of the greatest of all-time and arguably the greatest and the players they had on that team. One of my favorite teams because of how versatile on both ends they were.

[@Saroumanos]

Great stuff buddy. Really keen on these videos. Thnx.

[@J34xalpha_KING]

Larry Legend 👍

[@bignizzle6973]

DJ was awesome!

[@sonofnam4418]

'86 Boston Celtics...they are indeed & truly the greatest NBA team of all time!!! MJ's '90's Bulls won't even stand a chance. The reason...Bird is MJ's kryptonite.

[@sonofnam4418]

@TheRealist 811 The Bulls sucked against no one except Bird's Celtics. Be real bro, & be safe.

[@sonofnam4418]

@TheRealist 811 Got it...stay safe.

[@woketv781]

@@sonofnam4418 the bulls weren't good yet

[@woketv781]

16-17 GSW>>1986 Celtics

[@sonofnam4418]

@@woketv781 And Bird was hurt.

[@davidwhitehouse9665]

Love this. Thank you!

[@jaycup9621]

I've been in Chicago watching the NBA for nearly 40 years and the one team I think would have given the 96 Bulls the toughest time were the 86 Celtics. That Bulls team had no trouble stopping Shaq but trying to stop multiple big men who can shoot, and pass would have been a nightmare scenario for the Bulls.

[@richardcerritelli9657]

I have your bulls as the number two team in the history of the NBA that one year Jordan and Pippin of course that Celtic team is definitely the number one team in history of the NBA anybody that argues is just a hater.

[@woo_shynen8805]

I'd say the '01 lakers, '14 spurs and '17 warriors would give them trouble too

[@MichaelSevilla97]

you must have never seen the 2017 warriors 😂

[@MichaelSevilla97]

​@@richardcerritelli9657the 2017 warriors were better curry kd klay igoudala is more lethal than jordan and pippen ✌

[@richardcerritelli9657]

@@MichaelSevilla97 Nope wrong Chicago for the win the 86 Celtics are the best team ever.

[@lll9416]

Danny Ainge was an All American all three major sports. A hell of an athlete with too many natural gifts so he never really go tin the shape he could have.

[@juicethreetwo]

Ainge was also the starting 3rd baseman for the Boston Red Sox, so he was one of the greatest athletes ever.

[@candyxxv5834]

Please, do the Bad Boy Pistons. I feel like they’re often overlooked.

[@candyxxv5834]

mistaeric a lot of players say they’ll do anything to win, but pistons are the only ones that did. I mean i don’t completely agree with the way they played, but it was more the rules’ fault for being so exploitable. I often relate it to James Harden and his double step back. I mean everyone complained, but it rarely got called cuz it was technically legal.

[@candyxxv5834]

@mistaeric That's what I'm saying. They're extremely overlooked, not just because of their play style but the era as well. Their dynasty was wedged right in the middle of Lakers/Celtics era and then the Bulls dynasty. I mean, they almost had a three-peat, so they should be brought up when talking about all-time greats.

[@Amick44]

@mistaeric and that's what his tainted their legacy. They were really, really talented. And I'll even say I think they may have been deeper than the 80s Lakers and Celtics and that great Sixers team for 1 year. Even the Bulls of the early 90s. The other teams may have had one or two greater Stars, but those Pistons we're talented and deep like maybe no other team. 2 Legit All-Stars and Hall of Famers and Isaiah in Dumars, Dantley and Aguirre we're both legit All Stars. Laimbeer as well. 6th man (3rd guard) Vinnie Johnson would start on half the teams in the league. Deep quality as any team I've ever seen.

[@jupham4771]

Saw this team in person at the Garden, WOW they were awesome. Angie and McKale signed autographs after practice shoot around(not pre-game), Bird refused. Bird was super focused it was Clyde Drexler leading the Trailblazers and Bird wanted to win. Bird had a "quiet" 42 and went head to head with Clyde (28 pts) for about 6 minutes in the 4th qtr, like he did with Dominique in the playoffs. It was awesome, Clyde missed a couple shots and Bird didn't end of match up...end of game. The only time I saw Bird in action personally and they called it a quiet 42. When a player plays a perfect game against a great team and everyone yawns, that's a MVP and GOAT candidate.

[@sugarnads]

3:43 but Bird cant jump...

[@retrosoul8770]

Amazing picture, high quality too

[@darrellboone9274]

Didn't have to🤷‍♂️(that's like saying "Magic didn't score enough",or "Duncan had no handle")

[@maxmustermann7030]

It's a myth. Bird was not unatheltic. His back was injured early. Who knows who we wolud consider the goat, if he stayed healthy. But yeah good footage he could jump.

[@Deathstroke24120]

Another Great Series !!

[@jaronzennaiter]

#1 all time greatest team!

[@MichaelSevilla97]

they weren't better than the 2017 warriors and 1996 bulls 😂

[@chuckweicha1]

Every one talks about this team being best passing team ever and having best front court ever...another reason to consider them as GOAT is to look how it all added up in their shooting FG%: Bird just under 50%, ( started slow shooting shot almost 54% last few months) Parish 55%, McHale 57% Ainge 50%, Sichting 57%, Wedman 48% and Walton 57%...As a team they shot over 50% for an entire season plus 80% from free throw line and 35% 3PT

[@tabeentariq9126]

Also this team played against the God Himself and WON

[@elliota.1063]

Yes, but Jordan was far from the GOAT then, plus the rest of the Bulls were fairly sh*tty.

[@sbh123yt]

well, God wasn't in his prime and was sorrounded by lousy angels

[@bloody_outlaw8000]

@@elliota.1063 he was the best individual player since his debut..

[@elliota.1063]

​@@bloody_outlaw8000 Hmm...I'm a huge Jordan fan. He had both the most beautiful and efficient game I've ever seen. But when he first came into the league, he simply wasn't as polished and skilled as he'd become, so I wouldn't say he was the best individual player then. I might've taken Bird, who was very near his prime, over him them. Bernard King was amazing then also, along with many others. Skills take time to develop, and it probably wasn't until the '86-'87 season, with Jordan averaging 37.1 per game when I'd say he was probably the league's best individual player. Even then, there were those who could compete with Jordan for that title. Bird, Dominique, and Magic (among a few others) were great then as well. If we're gonna be as objective as we can about it, I don't think one could call Jordan the clear, consensus best player in the league until the late 80s, even into the early 90s. Once he and the Bulls beat Magic's Lakers in '91, it became pretty hard to argue otherwise. But until then, especially in his early years, Jordan had many detractors, and some of them probably had valid points. Just some thoughts...

[@daneosborn3476]

@@bloody_outlaw8000 he was the best scorer when he came in the league. He wasnt the best player yet. And he had no help at all.

[@anthonycelestin3559]

What I'm impressed by Bird is that most of his passes came off the ball. Bird never really handled the ball or run the point, most of his passes came off instincts where hes coming off cuts or coming off screens. Bird is the rare players who can generate assists without ball dominating

[@vicepresidentmikepence889]

The only reason why Bill Walton is in the hall of fame is because, unlike football, there's no college basketball hall of fame. Basketball hall of fame puts college into the voting process. If you only take Waltons nba career, no way is he a hall of famer. It sucks that he got hurt, but that's life

[@ja8ames]

At least in Walton's case, the only real asterisk is injury. He was definitely a great NBA player when he was healthy, so it's good that the Hall of Fame doesn't disregard his college career.

[@williammorrison6311]

For two seasons, Bill Walton was among the greatest players I´ve ever seen.

[@jingqi9106]

The year Walton led the Blazers to the title he had the entire package - great defense with ability to change the game in the paint, next level passing out of the post and great outlet passing to lead the Blazers fast break, scoring ability when he needed to take on that role, and outstanding rebounding. His two peak years with the Blazers were two of the best all-around seasons ever for a center.

[@vicepresidentmikepence889]

@@jingqi9106 You are correct. His two seasons were arguably the best ever for a center, but two great seasons does not make you a hall if famer. You have to have a lot more than that

[@jingqi9106]

@@vicepresidentmikepence889 Poor Bill had 37 surgeries.

[@lipsmcgee8242]

I always jam out to your intro music 🤣 great analysis too man

[@ookenny-5941]

Johnny would you ever make who had the best work ethic video

[@jpmnky]

When a prime Danny Ainge is the worst starter on your team..... you're f-in' loaded.

[@ronaldsimanjuntak9047]

2014 Spurs played the highest quality basketbal games ever.

[@curtismartin8455]

Uh yea NO!!!

[@angelomattiatinella4046]

Totally agree , they're the most overlooked team in the goat team conversation. I also think is the only team who matchup good with the '17 and '18 GSW along with the 96 bulls

[@jasonmoukala8909]

@@curtismartin8455 um yeah

[@kentjax3622]

Simply one of the best team analysis ever seen.

[@MrE_]

Head coach was Casey Jones? Like from the Ninja Turtles?

[@jonnyarnett]

Yep, and when players got outta line, he'd smack em with his Cricket Bat. lol

[@alexismendoza1315]

Great new series bro, looking forward to it.

[@christiankeil7845]

Number 2 on my list after the 72 win Bulls. Really looking forward to the 83 sixers and 72 lakers

[@gray_gogy]

Would the 72 bulls really beat the 86 Celtics? Sure Jordan will get his 35 ppg, but who will stop McHale, Parish, and Walton inside? Pippen might give Bird some issues, but just some. He wouldn't be able to lock him down. I'm not saying the Celtics would win for sure, but I'd bet on them over the Bulls because of their overall toughness. Bird and Jordan are equally tough. But the rest of the Celtics team is tougher

[@melvynsngltn27]

@@gray_gogy Michael Jordan would have to play defense. Unlike the teams the Bulls played Boston knew how to win played a team game & was a huge team something the bulls always lacked

[@gray_gogy]

@@melvynsngltn27 yup, the bulls didn't have the defense inside to stop the onslaught of post points the Celtics would pour on. And since it was an era that didn't utilize 3s, a bucket was a bucket regardless of how they got it. Jordan would score a bunch, but he couldn't outscore Bird and McHale together, let alone the rest of the insanely deep team the Celtics were

[@woketv781]

@@gray_gogy the 96 bulls would beat that Celtics team

[@gray_gogy]

@@woketv781 at least explain your position

[@mikedwoz9460]

It was a pleasure to watch that team.

[@TheoBrownMusic7]

My personal list 1) 1996 Bulls 2) 1986 Celtics 3) 1987 Lakers 4) 2017 Warriors 5) 1989 Pistons 6) 1993 Bulls 7) 2016 Warriors 8) 2001 Lakers 9) 1972 Bucks 10) 2013 Heat 11) 1969 Lakers

[@MM-wi2vw]

Spur 2014?

[@TheoBrownMusic7]

@@MM-wi2vw thought about them for a while but decided against it because that was simply a revenge season. idk, they are definitely up there lol

[@TheoBrownMusic7]

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[@MM-wi2vw]

@@TheoBrownMusic7 For me they were better than heats of 2013, they destroy them in they final 2014 and also they basquet that they practice was supreme how they moved, how they pased the ball, they were poetry emotion. *But that is my opinion*

[@JulioLeonFandinho]

2013 Heat? what about 1983 Sixers instead?

[@johnburris7711]

You nailed it.!!!

[@DaDualityofMan]

Definitely the greatest mostly white team 😂

[@unlockedaccount]

your name😷

[@chrisb3738]

I was a Celtic fan back then. There were mid-season games where Parish and Johnson would come out for a rest - Walton and Wedman come in and 5 white guys would destroy 5 black guys on the court. It was funny to watch.

[@Karll541]

lol 😂

[@domingomacedo1758]

The '86 Celtics were always #1 on my list for the greatest team ever until the 2017 Warriors came along. They had the greatest front court in NBA history, they had a superstar player at his peak, an all-time great 2nd option in McHale, two more All-star caliber players in Parish & DJ who are in the HOF, Danny Ainge who is considered one of the greatest role players ever, & Walton who in his short spurts of playing provided elite rebounding, rim protection, & passing, the Celtics defense got better when he was on the floor, and him and Bird had all-time great chemistry. They had a perfect blend of talent and chemistry, they were very unselfish and a great passing team, elite on offense & defense, #1 rebounding team with that massive front court. It was a team with literally no flaws.

[@richardmather1906]

That Warriors team would have had little chance under 1986 rules. McHale and Parrish would have fouled out half the Warriors by half time. Steph Curry would have been knocked around from pillar to post. There was no dealing with inside strength like that under those rules. Though, truthfully, there is no dealing with inside strength like that under any rules. McHale would score a ton of points now. Who would guard him? The best to hope for would be to keep up with threes the damage that he is doing by twos and (with fouls) threes. But with those arms, he could play some perimeter defense if he had to.

[@domingomacedo1758]

@@richardmather1906 It goes both ways, yes, McHale would be unguardable, but who on the Celtics do you see guarding Durant? Larry Bird, although a good team defender was a poor man to man defender on the perimeter in '86. Their best option is to put McHale on Durant who was a capable defender on the perimeter, but Durant is a different animal in terms of scoring ability, this isn't Dominique Wilkins, he can score from all over the court, do you really like McHale's chances there? I honestly think Boston would be shell shocked by the 3 point shooting of the Warriors, teams in the 80's didn't shoot much 3s, they didn't even guard the shot. The way the Warriors can stretch the floor would make the Celtics uncomfortable, guys like Bird & McHale are not used to playing defense that far out from the paint consistently. The 2017 Warriors are basically the Showtime Lakers on steroids.

[@richardmather1906]

There is, of course, no way to really know. But I think McHale would do a decent job on Durant under 1980s rules. And I would take McHale shooting 2s from 6' away against Durant (or whoever they put on him) over Durant shooting 3s. McHale would shoot a ridiculous percentage against that team. And 3s would be harder to come by under an 80s style defense.

[@domingomacedo1758]

@Hello8 goodbye9 You are highly misinformed, it was not easier to score today compared to the 80's, it was more physical in the 80's, but in terms of quality defense the 80's was a very poor decade. 1986 NBA Season Team League Average: 110 PPG, 49 FG% 2017 NBA Season Team League Average: 106 PPG, 46 FG%

[@trentmcdowell3361]

Jesus Loves U Jesus is the one true God who created us all and even know we are all sinners and we fall short of the glory of God, he came in the flesh as Jesus to the Earth and died for our sins to be washed away. Jesus is our Lord and Savior. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life and the only way to Heaven. Jesus said to be saved we have to repent from our sins, follow him, and do his will which is lead others to him. Jesus dont want us to follow religion he wants us to follow him. He doesnt want us to be religious he wants us to be spiritual. He wants us to have a real relationship with him where we pray to him everyday, pray to him about everything, talk to him, be honest with him, tell him who really are, tell him how we feel, talk to him about stuff we wanna do, and ask him to lead us. God has plans for your life that are greater than your own plans for your life. And everybody has a purpose and our true purpose is to walk with Jesus, Love everyone, and lead others to Jesus. And Jesus commmanded us to preach the gospel to the world. And Jesus said we are saved by faith thru grace but Jesus also said that are faith is dead without works. Jesus said if U Love me then keep my commandments so we show Jesus we Love him with our actions. U aint gotta be perfect cause U never will be nobody is and we all sin and we all struggle with certain sins and we all fall short of the glory of God. Its so many commandments its hundreds of them and its impossible to obey all of them all the time and thats the whole reason Jesus died for our sins to be washed away. So Jesus jus wants U to try our hardest to do everything hecwants us to do and jus be honest and admit when we sin, ask for forgiveness of our sins, and ask him to help us not sin. Its cool to have our own dreams and goals in life but we gotta remember that God is whats most important and God comes first. God wants us to enjoy life, have fun, and do things we wanna do sometimes but he wants us to take time to fast, deny our flesh, give up worldly things, and spend time with him praying to him, talking to him, reading the Bible, seek him, and spend time doing stuff for him by telling people about him, teaching people the word of God, leading people to him, and trying to save souls. And U aint gotta go to church. Jesus set his church up on a rock with his disciples. So us the followers of Jesus are the real church not a building. U can have church anywhere anytime. And whatever U go thru Jesus is always there for U and will help U thru it. Jesus will save U, change U, show U the truth, set U free, and lead U. We living in the last days. This is beginning of the end times. And things are only gonna get worse down the road. God is judging the Earth right now. The spirit of death is upon the Earth and God is gonna allow alot more people to die. And The evil Satanic Devil worshipping One World Government have more control over everybody. The Illuminati, which is Satan's followers. They are 13 family bloodlines that are the richest people in the world that control the economy, Governments, Hollywood, news media, and drug trade. Under them are the Catholic church who controls religion on the Earth to lead people to follow False God's, false religions, false churches, and false doctrines instead of jus following Jesus. Under them are 200 sometthing billionaires who own most of the major business corporations all over the world that poison our food, water, and medicine and they put witchcraft curses on alot of the products we buy. Under them are the Free Mason brother hood and they run our cities all over the world, they run the government, courthouses, police forces, and other stuff Free Masons serve Satan, their are Free Masons everywhere, many pretend to follow Jesus but dont, many say they are Christians but when they get to higher levels of Free Mason they figure out they gotta worship the Devil and they been serving the Devil. Jesus said that the evil would take over the Earth would take over the Earth before he comes back. So down the road the Government is gonna try to force people to take the mark of the beast 666 chip and if U take it then U are handing your soul over to Satan. U will automatically go to Hell when U die. U will have no chance of making it to Heaven. If U dont take it they will say U cant buy anything or sell anything without it. And they will try to kill U if U dont take it. So U gotta be willing to die for Jesus. There will be a judgement day. And we will way go before God and he will ask what did U do for me. We will be judged based on if we were truly following Jesus, having a deep relationship with Jesus, and leading others to Jesus. Only those who truly follow Jesus will enter into Heaven.

[@juicethreetwo]

Larry Bird over Jesus. Not. Even. Close.

[@MrVinny434]

Tough matchup with 82-83 Sixers. Doc, Moses, Toney, Mo Cheeks, Bobby Jones off the bench. Love to see this series.

[@acpliego]

Great video! Would love to see a long video comparing the best team of each era.

[@ultrastandphoenix1883]

I grew up loving the Celtics. And people would sat to me .them white boys .becouse people loved the Lakers and Philly authentic time .I said there's brothers on the team .I just live the way they played passed .thought .tuffness.and am from Toronto .Great video .

[@thinkinginsideout4053]

Been following you. Love the goat series. Duncan is my goat though. Just in case, would you make a series for best draft class? 1984, 1996, 2003, 2011 to name a few... And continue doing this content. Love from the Philippines! Thanks!

[@blazerfan7752]

86 Celtics were stacked with talent and players with off the chart BBIQ. The starting 5 is legendary. DJ was clutch. He and Bird had an amazing connection. DJ modified his game to be a facilitator. Ainge, while he did piss people off was a gamer as well. Deadeye shooter, scrappy hustler. Consider that Ainge appeared in the finals not only with Boston, but later in his career with Portland and Phoenix. He was a key veteran contributor on those teams as well as in Boston. People remember the Bird to DJ steal and layup in game 5 in ‘87 but I game seven in that series Ainge was huge in the 4th. Bird really goes without saying. Highest BBIQ ever. People tend to focus on Jordan’s 63 in Game 2 of the series overlooking that Bird went for 36, 12, and 8. Bird at his peak was phenomenal. Oh, and in the close out game of the series with the Bulls-Jordan had 19 points as did Bird. Ainge had 20 and Paxson 23. McHale was one hell of a player. Bird thought McHale had a great shot at winning MVP in 87 until injury. Freaking automatic when he got the ball in certain spots. Virtually unguardable. Oh and 31 for McHale in the close out vs the Bulls. Parish is so under appreciated. His numbers always took a backseat to Bird and McHale, but Chief was as steady as they come. The fact that he played 20 years in the league is something else. Walton highlighted a bench that was phenomenal. Walton’s defense, rebounding, PASSING and timely scoring was awesome. Like DJ Walton and Bird had a connection. Bird, McHale, and Parish were amazing. Adding Walton was unfair It was unfortunate that Wedman got hurt prior to the finals. A healthy Wedman and Houston might have been swept. Carlisle, Sichting also were great shooters and passers. Thirdkill, Vincent, and Kite were great role players who contributed as well. The 86 Celtics were one “lost weekend” from tying the 69-13 Lakers from the 70s. I believe this to be the best team ever-and imagine if they had been able to add Len Bias. Celtics would’ve gone back to back for sure