Making the Case - 1986 Celtics

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Clayton Crowley

Clayton Crowley

3 жыл бұрын

There are eight teams since 1970 that I think you can make the argument for as being the greatest NBA team of all time. The 1985-1986 Boston Celtics are one of them.
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@ClaytonCrowley
@ClaytonCrowley 3 жыл бұрын
Whoops! The '86 Celtics have the SECOND best record in Celtic history. The 1973 Celtics went 68-14. There's always something.
@DirtyDev
@DirtyDev 3 жыл бұрын
Huge success coming your way man just pls keep it up
@jp3813
@jp3813 3 жыл бұрын
Please put this series in a playlist as well.
@travismichael9595
@travismichael9595 3 жыл бұрын
Wasnt trying to pick the video apart, it was just something i noticed. Amazing video with amazing quality Clayton.
@ernestboykin3rd706
@ernestboykin3rd706 3 жыл бұрын
Lol loved when he said I could give a shit less about Boston priceless bruh
@clintwilson6380
@clintwilson6380 3 жыл бұрын
'86 Celtics would smash the '73 and '21 Boston teams. Ya'll softer than Cottonelle Bunnies.
@austinrawlins
@austinrawlins 3 жыл бұрын
I would pay serious money to see this guy write a “Book of Basketball” esque book
@kingabe07
@kingabe07 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking he must of read the Book of Basketball by Bill Simmons
@evokanq35
@evokanq35 3 жыл бұрын
or like one similar to Ben Taylor at thinking basketball wrote, it’s amazing. i would love to see that
@vishnujannareddy7046
@vishnujannareddy7046 3 жыл бұрын
I would pre order it if he wrote about the goats and making the cases for teams and players.
@seano6859
@seano6859 3 жыл бұрын
Idk about that- bill simmons did so much research, idk if Clayton is quite as qualified- but I deff think he should keep doing videos in this vein and keep researching for them!
@evokanq35
@evokanq35 3 жыл бұрын
@@seano6859 true because i think thinking basketball is second to none in the statistical and in game research they show but clayton is more like a casual one that could maybe make a more entertaining book but doesn’t go as in depth
@panther99299
@panther99299 3 жыл бұрын
"...Video for another time".... Making the Case: Most Underrated Player Of All Time
@odiadonervo1915
@odiadonervo1915 3 жыл бұрын
we need this!!
@thomaspitts5161
@thomaspitts5161 3 жыл бұрын
imo this is 2 players EASY...Dr. J or Moses Malone. I think because so much of their peaks were in the ABA but those guys were GREAT
@wrdsmf
@wrdsmf 3 жыл бұрын
Horry!
@paddypgaming23
@paddypgaming23 3 жыл бұрын
Easy, Allen Iverson, Derek Fisher, Robert Horry
@calamorta
@calamorta 3 жыл бұрын
@@paddypgaming23 AI? LMAO
@RobelFesseha
@RobelFesseha 3 жыл бұрын
Next series should be making the case on greatest mvp season of all time
@josephhanicak7922
@josephhanicak7922 3 жыл бұрын
2016 Steph, 2000 Shaq, 1991 MJ, and 2013 Lebron are the ones that come to mind for me.
@cultmoss4482
@cultmoss4482 3 жыл бұрын
My case: 1988 Michael Jordan. MVP, scoring title (averaging 35 points btw) [FG: 53%, FT: 84%], Steals leader (3.2), DPOY, All defensive first team, AllNBA first, All-Star Game MVP, led the Bulls to 50 wins (not a single all star teammate). Nearly a perfect season, his only flaw was that three point shot, but this wasn’t the three point era, and that never held him back from being the most dominant player in the league
@Psquared2324
@Psquared2324 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephhanicak7922 87-88 Jordan is the best. In that era doing what he did.
@jackb750
@jackb750 3 жыл бұрын
@@josephhanicak7922 not tp burst your bubble but curry was not better then any of those and many other mvps are better
@josephhanicak7922
@josephhanicak7922 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackb750 lol what? 2016 Curry has a very strong argument for best season of all time, idk what you're going on about
@wmden1
@wmden1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 69 years old and I didn't know I would get more sentimental the older I got. I sometimes get mad at myself, but I almost teared up, with the section on Bill Walton. It was a great tribute to Walton, who I believe would be in the, Greatest of all Time, conversation, if he could have stayed healthy.
@DDRisBEST
@DDRisBEST 3 жыл бұрын
let them emotions fly!
@Amick44
@Amick44 3 жыл бұрын
No question about it. Only Hakeem is as versatile or more so than Walton in all areas.
@xXEliminatorXx99
@xXEliminatorXx99 3 жыл бұрын
@@Amick44 Ever heard about Chamberlain ? The dude who blocked 8.8 shots during his last 130 games in the NBA ?
@gregallan2842
@gregallan2842 3 жыл бұрын
@@xXEliminatorXx99 Wilt got bored one season and decided to lead the league in assists. AND succeeded.
@retiredwelder1971
@retiredwelder1971 2 жыл бұрын
Bill Walton is a special human being. His love for his fellow man and he don’t judge people by money. He judges people by character. And so full of love for his teammates and respect for everybody he played against. I miss this team so much. It’s all I do is watch 80’s Celtics games on KZbin. Only one I can’t find that I wanna see so bad is game one bucks at Celtics ecf.
@TheCaesarMania
@TheCaesarMania 3 жыл бұрын
What it’s called: “Making the Case” What is it really: “Clayton’s Living History of the Evolution of Basketball: 80s Power Hour”
@NumunuBeats
@NumunuBeats 3 жыл бұрын
I played against Larry Bird in 1986. True story. He came to a camp at our school in Kentucky and when he picked a few kids to come “guard” him I was lucky to be among those chosen. Supposedly he picked our school for our proximity to our world class crappie fishing at Kentucky Lake.
@Scott-hq3jq
@Scott-hq3jq 2 жыл бұрын
Nice story! 🙂 And it's too believable that Bird would have Crappie fishing on his mind, Ha ha!
@Head318Hunter
@Head318Hunter 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding story !! Wanna go hunt morels tomorrow? I'm actually working today.
@newerafrican
@newerafrican 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, sounds about right. For all of his worldly experiences, Larry seems to be a simple man at heart. He sacrificed a lot of time honing his game so I’m sure he enjoys spending his free time doing what he loves. We should all do that more often.
@bensagal-morris8072
@bensagal-morris8072 Жыл бұрын
@@ScotchIrishTarheel You know he did lol.
@roberte.christian1741
@roberte.christian1741 Жыл бұрын
@ Dave Whitehead You were given a once in a lifetime gift to have done that. I'd love just to meet him but to play against him? Wow!! He was my hero then and I realized his legendary greatness at the time. I tried to pattern my game to be like his. Never able to shoot like him but his fearless and tenacity and total team player were things I always tried to base my game on. He is still my hero today.
@saadkhatib3456
@saadkhatib3456 3 жыл бұрын
This was easily one of the most entertaining and free flowing attractive attacking teams to watch of all times, The ways they attacked so fluidly and the way they passed the ball was like an orgasm to the eye, adding the players talents of birds skills, mchale assists, waltons power, parish offense and ainge aggressiveness to the mix was something unique, regardless if you agree regarding this team being the best you can’t argue that it was perhaps the most entertaining and eye dazzling teams of all times.
@jp3813
@jp3813 3 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean Walton's assists, McHale's offense, & Parish's power?
@wmden1
@wmden1 2 жыл бұрын
You may have gotten the individual attributes a little mixed up, but I agree. Bird, by himself, was as much fun to watch as the Globe Trotters. Add the rest and you have really got something to watch.
@Amick44
@Amick44 Жыл бұрын
@@jp3813 Walton, like Kareem, gained muscle and power as they got older.
@theupside591
@theupside591 3 жыл бұрын
Dennis Johnson really doesn’t get enough respect as an all-time legend. Gus Williams and him brought Seattle a Larry O’Brien trophy (something the Jazz, Nuggets, Suns, etc. still can’t claim).
@sardonicus76
@sardonicus76 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone talks about the infamous Joe Barry Carroll for McHale and Parish trade as one of the most lopsided in league history (and it most definitely was). But no one ever brings up the fleecing that Boston inflicted on Phoenix in ‘83. Red Auerbach received a former Finals MVP, one of the greatest defensive point guards of all time and a future Hall of Famer, Dennis Johnson, in exchange for Rick Robey. Now, that’s criminal.
@HipsterShiningArmor
@HipsterShiningArmor 2 жыл бұрын
and Jack Sikma
@Amick44
@Amick44 2 жыл бұрын
@@sardonicus76 it sure was. I honestly bet Red was in near disbelief after realizing he pulled that one off!
@madcapper6
@madcapper6 Жыл бұрын
Like you I'm guessing, I bled Sonic green back in the Sonic Boom years. Loved me some Gus, JJ, Lonnie, Jack, Downtown, all of them. But DJ I think was the straw that stirred the drink, not just because he was Finals MVP in '79. He brought a championship dimension to the Sonics that was a little hard to define because it involved stuff like intangibles and went way beyond just the stat sheet. Defense, offensive rebounds, hustle plays, huge clutch shots and just overall team play from DJ is what gave the Sonics an edge against any team they played. When they traded him, they lost that edge that he brought, which is why they never got within sniffing distance of a title again. All DJ ever did was win, no matter where he went. And when he left, he always left losing in his wake. I think every season of his career except for maybe one year when he was with the Suns, his team made it at least as far as the conference finals, not counting his years with the post-championship Celtics when he was past his prime in the late '80s. There will never be another player quite like him.
@user-gx2yy1df6f
@user-gx2yy1df6f 7 ай бұрын
sikma made the most amazing dunk i ever saw, he was literally horizontal when he dunked it , i've tried to find it but can't but i saw it live and they kept showing replays. @@HipsterShiningArmor
@oliverdennis3115
@oliverdennis3115 3 жыл бұрын
McHale has the only 60 80 season in history. He was insanely accurate,
@MrHam-sk3kr
@MrHam-sk3kr 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Twardzik did it too, but McHale did it with over 20 ppg, whereas Twardzik had 10.3 ppg
@oliverdennis3115
@oliverdennis3115 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrHam-sk3kr I didn’t know that, learn something new everyday, even if that something sounds like a Jewish book store owner,
@TheShachattack13
@TheShachattack13 3 жыл бұрын
Enes Kanter had a 59 85 season and Ivica Zubac is having a 65 80 season this year
@dudelitte7817
@dudelitte7817 3 жыл бұрын
Faxs he is underrated definitely deserves the 86 mvp
@donovanm5128
@donovanm5128 3 жыл бұрын
@@dudelitte7817 lmfao no tf
@Cheese797
@Cheese797 3 жыл бұрын
Bird had such a beautiful game. All these years later and still eye popping talent. Legend indeed!
@robdon3472
@robdon3472 3 жыл бұрын
This is flat out some of the most beautiful basketball ever. It's like watching pinball seeing those passes fly all over the court
@bonerjoe1230
@bonerjoe1230 3 жыл бұрын
as a celtics fan this is exactly what i need after these last few games. thanks clayton :)
@yawnymoon3116
@yawnymoon3116 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing, this season is torture 😫 haha
@andyandyandy5781
@andyandyandy5781 3 жыл бұрын
Facts bro we are underperforming so much right now I’m getting tired of having to defend the Celtics to my buddies
@yawnymoon3116
@yawnymoon3116 3 жыл бұрын
@@andyandyandy5781 I thought this was gonna be a breakout year too haha
@yawnymoon3116
@yawnymoon3116 3 жыл бұрын
@Trevor Rogert which "stars" are you referring to?
@yawnymoon3116
@yawnymoon3116 3 жыл бұрын
@Trevor Rogert I think we keep the Jays and build around them. They're the future. Get rid of Kemba, Thompson and Smart and some picks .
@performtransform
@performtransform 10 күн бұрын
Watching Walton in '86 was an absolute joy! Rest easy, Bill.
@SandyClaws17
@SandyClaws17 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there Patreon handsome devils
@achyuthjayagopal10
@achyuthjayagopal10 3 жыл бұрын
Literal chills, man. The ending sequence about the "Walls of the Garden" was just insane. Goosebumps.
@qqw743
@qqw743 3 жыл бұрын
I got to see Bird and company play in the old Garden when I lived in Boston for a year, 1990. It was a terrible place to see a basketball game. You couldn't breathe, you couldn't see much, the fans were pretty much all drunk jerks, and there is no redemption clause in this sentence. It sucked. I've been in plenty of other sports venues, with plenty of nutty fans. The Garden was so much worse. I wanted my ticket money back. The mystique isn't about some leprechaun-special space. It was an armpit, but a lot of good teams played there, so you get the impression it was some kind of glowingly special win-maker. Man, I don't know: maybe you thought your high school locker room smelled good, too.
@precisism1804
@precisism1804 3 жыл бұрын
Clayton is something of literary genius
@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf
@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf 2 жыл бұрын
@@qqw743 I wish the ticket wasn't wasted on you. Although it makes me wonder if you were even there when you say "you couldn't see much." There was no arena where the fans were closer to the action. I'm guessing that you never played meaningful basketball.
@qqw743
@qqw743 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf All basketball is meaningful, and people paid for "obstructed view" because the pillars holding the building up were in the way. Wonder away.
@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf
@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf 2 жыл бұрын
@@qqw743 🤣
@jordanwilliams4235
@jordanwilliams4235 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, you are the G.O.A.T. at NBA documentaries
@javigar133
@javigar133 3 жыл бұрын
He is, no doubt, I dont miss a single one
@gretchenlittle6817
@gretchenlittle6817 3 жыл бұрын
DJ was an assassin -- he played solid fundamental basketball as well as it's ever been played.
@Mattulaak
@Mattulaak 3 жыл бұрын
The best part was <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1187">19:47</a> when Old Man Walton swam through the ref and football tackled Sampson. Hilarious
@NameCallingIsWeak
@NameCallingIsWeak 5 ай бұрын
Walton is 7'2", so he HAD to take Sampson down
@pd9020
@pd9020 3 жыл бұрын
This quality is genuinely amazing. it's honestly astounding that this is free and not part of a box set of DVDs on the history of the NBA or airing on ESPN like a 30 for 30
@matthewalexander1943
@matthewalexander1943 3 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that those 67 wins came at a time when the NBA was strong, and they came in the East, which was easily the stronger of the two conferences. The Bulls and the Lakers got their 70+ win seasons immediately after dilution by expansion.
@Mrd9960
@Mrd9960 3 жыл бұрын
The Lakers never won 70 games, the most they won was 69, in 1972
@MistaP13
@MistaP13 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget they were 40-1 at the crib that year too! 😳
@bigMooney06
@bigMooney06 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video man. Seriously high quality production value and script writing. 👍
@XxMRDARKWOLFxX1
@XxMRDARKWOLFxX1 3 жыл бұрын
Deserves more likes! Love the vids
@bryanleaf1533
@bryanleaf1533 2 жыл бұрын
Fr fr. Mans underrated. Guys like him and Thinking Basketball gonna burst onto the scene soon, just watch
@spkrause
@spkrause 3 жыл бұрын
The ending of this video got me all emotional. Now just imagine the '87 version with Len Bias.
@grog3514
@grog3514 2 жыл бұрын
That would've been the most broken team in history. If I could change one thing about bball history, it would be for Bias to have lived a full life. Imagine someone with possibly greater ability than Jordan being mentored by Larry Bird and maturing inside one of the greatest teams of all time ... insane.
@brgreg8725
@brgreg8725 2 жыл бұрын
Reggie Lewis too. Those two (I believe) could’ve kept the Celtics dynasty rolling in the 90s.
@johnhebert3855
@johnhebert3855 2 жыл бұрын
Me too on both accounts.
@DonSMDT
@DonSMDT 2 жыл бұрын
I'll raise you Len Bias *and* a still healthy Bill Walton
@spkrause
@spkrause 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonSMDT And a non-hobbled McHale.
@VictorDiGiovanni
@VictorDiGiovanni 2 жыл бұрын
There has never been a better display of passing than the 86 Celtics. It was breathtaking to watch.
@cm9241
@cm9241 Жыл бұрын
2014 spurs.
@hjcolon24
@hjcolon24 3 жыл бұрын
Next series we need a making the case: Clayton Crowley vs. Jon Bois
@joebulischeck7120
@joebulischeck7120 3 жыл бұрын
Bois still wins hes the video essay goat
@1missing
@1missing 3 жыл бұрын
@@joebulischeck7120 Clayton hasn't written his 4 hour masterpiece yet, give it time
@donttalkaboutmymomsyo
@donttalkaboutmymomsyo 3 жыл бұрын
He must first square off against the other young squire jousting for sir bois' crown-j.kyle mann
@rowanespeverda4120
@rowanespeverda4120 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see two of the sports KZbin goats collab shit would be fiiiire
@2tiddies404
@2tiddies404 3 жыл бұрын
vs Kyle Mann
@twolak1972
@twolak1972 Жыл бұрын
The greatest year team ever. They had it all. Bird, McHale, parish, ainge and the so underrated DJ. He and Bird were reading each others thoughts by the way they always found the open man, whether it was Bird taking the shot , or DJ or Danny it was TEAM, 1ST, LAST AND ALWAYS.
@Mr061099
@Mr061099 3 жыл бұрын
This team was so good that not even the GOAT dropping 60+ on em was enough to give them an L lmao
@GOPMAN71
@GOPMAN71 3 жыл бұрын
The GOAT didn't drop 60 in that game, but his team did win and sweep the series and did it again the next year, even with all the injuries.
@dodihassan6176
@dodihassan6176 3 жыл бұрын
@@GOPMAN71 😂😂
@tombstone1111
@tombstone1111 3 жыл бұрын
@@GOPMAN71 Absolutely correct.
@tombstone1111
@tombstone1111 3 жыл бұрын
@@dodihassan6176 WTF are you laughing about, he is right.
@davidschmidt1793
@davidschmidt1793 2 жыл бұрын
@@GOPMAN71 hahaha
@anthonytomb8857
@anthonytomb8857 3 жыл бұрын
This team would have dominated in today’s era
@juniorjohnson9509
@juniorjohnson9509 3 жыл бұрын
To understand just how dominant the '86 Celtics were, you had to be there and watch what they did all season long.
@paulhegarty4612
@paulhegarty4612 Жыл бұрын
up by 20 with a minute left no one would leave the garden because you were afraid you would miss a great pass or seven.
@michaelgilmer3581
@michaelgilmer3581 2 жыл бұрын
I remember watching that season with my Dad. Larry Legend is still my favorite player of all time. It was a real treat to be able to watch them that season.
@gregoryevans8179
@gregoryevans8179 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never been a Celtics fan, but this was one of the greatest teams ever. No one could touch them that year, Auerbach called Walton’s number exactly at the right time.
@juderayalmario1087
@juderayalmario1087 3 жыл бұрын
“Boston - a city I don’t give a shit about” - Clayton Crowley
@qqw743
@qqw743 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched everything Clayton has put out and that was his best moment. Couldn't agree more, and I've lived there.
@chitownkidd33
@chitownkidd33 2 жыл бұрын
Ya nothing important about one of the most historically significant states in the country.
@jp3813
@jp3813 3 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1230">20:30</a> Sampson was actually listed at PF that season. Meaning that the Rockets' superstar center was shorter than their tallest forward.
@benjaminbiondi8857
@benjaminbiondi8857 3 жыл бұрын
Your the only channel I will say “LETS GO” to when I see you posted.
@ty88nyc35
@ty88nyc35 3 жыл бұрын
The 1986 Celtics are the epitome of perfect team basketball.
@xedyir_oZZ
@xedyir_oZZ 3 жыл бұрын
2014 Spurs will like your location
@Abbad1579
@Abbad1579 3 жыл бұрын
2014 Spurs: Are we a joke to you?
@steviechampagne
@steviechampagne 3 жыл бұрын
86 Celtics would wipe the floor with the Spurs
@ty88nyc35
@ty88nyc35 3 жыл бұрын
@@xedyir_oZZ It's a shame we never got McHale vs. Duncan
@thatsalotofdamage8568
@thatsalotofdamage8568 3 жыл бұрын
@@steviechampagne cap
@steph899
@steph899 3 жыл бұрын
This team was easily the best interior and post defensive team ever, even the best interior and post offensive team ever.
@thomasbrady3827
@thomasbrady3827 3 жыл бұрын
Only real competition is the bad boys pistons
@LowdownBoy
@LowdownBoy 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasbrady3827 Gay boy Pistons lol
@nxrthexst7356
@nxrthexst7356 3 жыл бұрын
@@LowdownBoy that wasn’t funny
@mariovillacourt994
@mariovillacourt994 2 жыл бұрын
Bird was the best player I ever saw and this team was insane
@73Trident
@73Trident 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct.
@luisantoniofernandez5552
@luisantoniofernandez5552 3 жыл бұрын
Before "Making the Case", I've never taken stock of players and teams from the 70s - 80s as legitimate GOAT candidates because of how different the rules were. Thank you Clayton, for this wonderful series.
@nicford1486
@nicford1486 2 жыл бұрын
I really feel like you do all these old teams justice. I was never alive to see them, but you highlight them so well. Celtics were my dads favorite team, and of course Bird his favorite player. He passed away last year, but watching videos like this make me think fondly of him. Basketball was how we connected, talking about the fundamentals and the game as an art and science and not just a sport. You understand the game well and make great videos. Much love.
@user-dd4hi2cl7y
@user-dd4hi2cl7y 3 жыл бұрын
"...and after killing god" lmao. Your content rules, keep it up my man.
@vetoland92
@vetoland92 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Bill Simmons is gonna hire you at The Ringer eventually
@joelmilten
@joelmilten 3 жыл бұрын
Especially if he puts out more videos like this one!
@andrewjackson6412
@andrewjackson6412 3 жыл бұрын
Just thinking about the well rounded team Boston had in 1986 just gets me excited and wish I was there as a kid or teen
@drlovesausage
@drlovesausage 3 жыл бұрын
Clayton, I just wanted to say that your videos are really amazing and you are super talented. It's apparent that you put a lot of thought and time into these videos. Seeing one of them pop up in my feed always makes my day better.
@milart12
@milart12 3 жыл бұрын
I forgot how good Walton was at this point in his career. Near the end, but still dominating in stretches.. Hands down best frontline in NBA history-Bird, McHale, Parrish, Walton.
@ChinmaiNaregal
@ChinmaiNaregal 3 жыл бұрын
I may not know everything about basketball but every time I see one of Clayton's videos, I'm convinced his point is correct. Your writing is immaculate dude!!
@weldonbishop2755
@weldonbishop2755 3 жыл бұрын
As a lifelong Laker fan, I have to say that K.C. Jones is the most criminally underrated coach of all time.
@lesduenas5699
@lesduenas5699 Жыл бұрын
I was so glad that Walton went to the Celtic. Loved the way he played for UCLA, Like Bird, Smarts plays.
@Primus54
@Primus54 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when these games were originally televised that you HAD to watch the instant replay in slow motion to keep your eyes on the ball during some of the impossibly quick passes flying around the court. Main camera movements often got lost or faked out.
@austinhenkel3569
@austinhenkel3569 3 жыл бұрын
As a young Celtics fan with much to learn, this felt good to listen to
@broadstreet21
@broadstreet21 3 жыл бұрын
And imagine if Bias lived. It would have been 60s all over again.
@hirshja
@hirshja 3 жыл бұрын
Easily a top 5 "what if" in modern sports history. He was supposedly around the same level as MJ.
@broadstreet21
@broadstreet21 3 жыл бұрын
@@hirshja If you ask me, the Celtics would have won four more NBA titles. Meanwhile, the Lakers would bolster their roster, trading for Barkley, and possibly Ewing. Johnson also cuts out his swinger ways, doesn't get AIDS, plays until 1996. They battle the Lakers for titles. Bulls eventually land a discontented Olajuwon in a trade in 1993 - only then does Jodran win titles. What happens after 1998 is anyone's guess.
@broadstreet21
@broadstreet21 3 жыл бұрын
Long story short, MJ would have lots of competition and won't dominate the 90s like he did in real life. He never wins a ring without Olajuwon.
@daveverplank
@daveverplank 3 жыл бұрын
Had Bias lived, the Celtics would have won again in '87 with him playing for an injured McHale. Also, Bird says he would have retired in 1989 if Bias had lived.
@broadstreet21
@broadstreet21 3 жыл бұрын
@@daveverplank If Bird wasn't bluffing about retiring, I'm sure the Celtics would talk him into staying, showing him how many more rings he could win. McHale probably won't get injured, Bias would have eased the burden.
@zhuber
@zhuber 3 жыл бұрын
This and the GOAT making the case are on the rushmore of best basketball series of all time!!!
@Jondsmusic
@Jondsmusic 3 жыл бұрын
To me the 86 Celtics was the most complete all around team ever, not to mention the best passing team ever!
@HFH-Official
@HFH-Official 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos confuse me man..... Every time I watch your "making the case" videos, you convince me, only to watch another video and you convincing me again that another team is the greatest.... I am in the land of confusion 😂😂😂😂 that means your vids are soooo good you make a case for every team.
@dachizzizzile7416
@dachizzizzile7416 3 жыл бұрын
Great video from one of the best sports channels on KZbin. Other channels might do more with things like analytics and film breakdown, but I don't think I've seen a channel that's better at telling a story around basketball than yours.
@MikeyD22
@MikeyD22 2 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video! A huge thanks for sharing. Brings back great memories of my all-time favorite sports team.
@paullempges7860
@paullempges7860 3 жыл бұрын
Just done so well once again, already loving your second making the case series!
@HectorTheGr8
@HectorTheGr8 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not a huge basketball fan but I love the work that you have put into these videos. Excellent stuff.
@qqwertyuiop13
@qqwertyuiop13 3 жыл бұрын
How does this channel not have millions of subs? Fantastic content
@jefflawver971
@jefflawver971 8 ай бұрын
Well ya convinced me dude. Then again I witnessed that team back in the 80s. As soon as they got Walton, I thought look out Lakers, they're coming back with a vengeance. Well they sure did, even if they only got two shots at the Lakers that year. They beat them twice, once without McHale, and at the Forum. The first meeting, Walton went nuts, blocking shots left and right., rebounding, dunking, leading the way to a lop sided win. He gave that team, for one year, arguably the best 6th man ever. Add in the rest of that crew, lead by Bird, and I can attest, it was special to watch.
@sakketin
@sakketin 3 жыл бұрын
The 86 Celtics were what Pep Guardiola's Barca was in football and what prime Muhammad Ali was in boxing. Never has the game of basketball looked more beautiful.
@GOPMAN71
@GOPMAN71 3 жыл бұрын
Prime Tyson would knock prime Ali's big mouth out in 2 rounds tops, just like the 86 Celtics would've mopped the floor with the 87 Lakers or 96 Bulls.
@sugarnads
@sugarnads 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they were the 1948 Invincibles of basketball.
@sakketin
@sakketin 3 жыл бұрын
@@GOPMAN71 Have you seen Ali's first Patterson fight? The peek a boo style of Tyson would've been easy to prime Ali.
@haroldmccoy6748
@haroldmccoy6748 3 жыл бұрын
@@GOPMAN71 If Sonny Liston ,and Henry Cooper couldn't succeed at knocking Ali out in his prime ,who by the way always had one of the greatest chins in boxing history ,his only stoppage was against Holmes when the corner through the towel , how was a psychologically fragile Tyson engaging against the greatest psychological mind playing master in boxing history going to knockout Ali .Tyson never defeated a in prime great opponent in his whole career ,never won a fight in which he was knocked down or was trailing after 6 rounds , benifetted by entering the heavyweight division at a time period in which no apex predators were present at the time to challenge him, when he encountered a stiff challenge he fail apart , particularly against a true Heavyweight Hof opponent ie Holyfield and Lewis . Spinks was a glorified heavyweight ,true hof credentials are at light heavy weight , who should have been ruled the loser inthe 2 Holmes bout ,so that Tyson win isn't authentic in terms of defeating a prime great heavyweight opponent . The 86 Celtics lacked the athleticism to matchup with the 87 Lakers ,and Kareem owned Parrish when he desired to impose his will , James Worthy's athletic ability would neutralize McHale defensive presence , Mychal Thompson , AC Green and Kurt Rambis through attrition would limit his effeciency offensively , Magic vs Dennis Johnson ?? Get real ,and I'm a Dennis Johnson fan ,but he's not winning that matchup . Cooper always gave Bird fits ,Byron Scott speed too much for Ainge , Wedman and Sichting , Bill Walton's pedigree passing ,interior defense ,good low post scoring via sweeping hook ,short 8 foot jumper would be minimized because he would have to run up and down the court so much he'd become tired , physically brittle he'd break down . Wes Mathew and and Billy Thompson bought additional athleticism off the bench .
@georgepetrov5669
@georgepetrov5669 2 жыл бұрын
Barcelona did not play beautifully under Guardiola. The incessant passing, sometimes going for minutes and minutes, on and on, just in order to tire an opponent out, is just plain boring to watch. The closest thing to it in basketball are the San Antonio Spurs of Gregg Popovich; however, I have a lot more respect for the Spurs than I do for the little Catalans.
@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812
@jaysonraphaelmurdock8812 3 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing that Walton was deeply disappointed that the Lakers didn't make the finals in 86 because he wanted to play against Kareem.
@flula
@flula 3 жыл бұрын
Clayton congratuulation on 50.000 subscribles! Boo Ja man!
@rowanespeverda4120
@rowanespeverda4120 3 жыл бұрын
Please make more anything. Making the cases, rants, analysis. Past present or future I will watch it all. You are one of the best things about youtube!
@sergrito
@sergrito 3 жыл бұрын
your videos are so good. You have the pace, the language, the skills. Man, I really enjoy them. Great. Thanks
@lhart99
@lhart99 3 жыл бұрын
40-1 win/loss record at home. Enough said! PERIOD!
@youtuber3328
@youtuber3328 2 жыл бұрын
the playoffs count the most
@youtuber3328
@youtuber3328 2 жыл бұрын
the best playoff teams ever are the first 10 celtics championship teams and the 1967 76ers led by the goats tied bill russell and wilt chamberlain
@fr.larryyoung4222
@fr.larryyoung4222 3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos. You are doing a fantastic job. Articulate bordering on poetic and pretty darn funny here and there. Keep up the good work Clayton!
@joejohnson5870
@joejohnson5870 Жыл бұрын
I finished your making the case players series and it was honestly some of the best content I have seen. The non bias you present backed up by facts data and logic are sound. This is the second one I watched in this series with the 2001 Lakers being the first. I am telling friends about your content who love basketball. Great work man.
@bobjames5264
@bobjames5264 2 жыл бұрын
“The hive mind.” 🐝😄👍🏼 Another great video, Clayton. I’m trying to watch every one you’ve ever done. I also like how you catch your own errors and call them out. Nobody’s perfect, so there’s no shame in being imperfect.
@anthonypetrozzelli5429
@anthonypetrozzelli5429 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video! As a die hard Celtic fan I couldn't agree more. It's too bad Len Bias past away. The Celtics dynasty could have continued.
@JeezusTheGoat
@JeezusTheGoat 3 жыл бұрын
Clayton that intro man! Chill!! Good shit
@FarFromIncident
@FarFromIncident 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t say enough how much I appreciate these videos. You’re one of the best channels out there for basketball!
@Mugiwara_Luffy12
@Mugiwara_Luffy12 3 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to your videos man!
@xxxog8446
@xxxog8446 3 жыл бұрын
“ I don’t give a shit about Boston “ 😂 love your videos man
@thewheelsonthelabus
@thewheelsonthelabus 3 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed by the quality every time
@docclabo6350
@docclabo6350 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking as one of the insufferable Boston sports fans, one who was lucky enough to see the old greats...Russell, Hondo, Cowens, and many others...play in the Garden -- nice job! This is a great tribute to a great team. Thanks. BTW, I'm not sure if you mentioned it or not, but the Celts were 40-1 at home during the regular season. They were unbelievable and a blast to watch.
@ethanheberer4469
@ethanheberer4469 3 жыл бұрын
Always excited to see you upload, keep doin you Clayton the videos are consistently quality!
@johnbragg1578
@johnbragg1578 3 жыл бұрын
Let's go Clayton! Lets go baby!
@killerking5168
@killerking5168 3 жыл бұрын
This Made my day
@stanboddeke8651
@stanboddeke8651 3 жыл бұрын
You make incredible videos, you show greatness so expertly that you make me tear up at the sight of such triumph almost every video. Keep it up bro!
@P1P31150
@P1P31150 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love to see it! I love the inside story telling, is what gives the cases that emotional value and perspective! Another amazing video Clayton!
@daltongreely7922
@daltongreely7922 3 жыл бұрын
I finally understand why this team is so great. Thanks Duncan!
@austinkearney9965
@austinkearney9965 3 жыл бұрын
I highly suggested a video of the 1966-1967 Philadelphia 76ers.
@mikegillins4992
@mikegillins4992 3 жыл бұрын
Still feel. Even today 67 sixers is one of the top two teams ever strong back court greer and Jones strong front court Jackson walker and legendary wilt Chamberlain
@akashkarthikeyan7765
@akashkarthikeyan7765 3 жыл бұрын
Hes not gonna do teams b4 1970. Speaking of 6ers, i think 82-83 76ers should make the list.
@Amick44
@Amick44 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikegillins4992 they are.
@mikegillins4992
@mikegillins4992 3 жыл бұрын
@@akashkarthikeyan7765 I think that 83 sixers team is in the top five convo
@mikegillins4992
@mikegillins4992 3 жыл бұрын
@@Amick44 even thou I like 86 celtics as best team I always said the 67 sixers is the one team that would have a legitimate shot against them cause of there strong front court and Chamberlain scoring, rebounding, passing and shot blocking ability
@alexmarsh8358
@alexmarsh8358 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great vid Clayton, this one really feels like it has just a different tone than the rest. Loved it
@jlolson53
@jlolson53 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT video! THe '86 Celtics were extraordinary on so many different levels - and extraordinarily FUN to watch!!
@wagezombie
@wagezombie 3 жыл бұрын
clayton continues to make the best basketball media on youtube. his videos are always blockbusters. like kobe its like he never misses. keep up the good work, proud to be here before you hit a million subs.
@immortal8447
@immortal8447 3 жыл бұрын
Kobe has the most misses in nba history lmao
@wagezombie
@wagezombie 3 жыл бұрын
@@immortal8447 he got more makes than u so go away
@johnmichaeldelapaz4965
@johnmichaeldelapaz4965 3 жыл бұрын
"The ultimate GOAL is to win a CHAMPIONSHIP"
@vibesmom
@vibesmom 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, great storytelling and highlights from a tremendous year in basketball. I’m so glad I stumbled upon your channel and you’ve definitely gained a new subscriber. Beyond the impressive editing you sparked some very fond memories for me. Growing up just south of Boston, sports were part of the framework surrounding me. I remember fondly listening to Johnny Most on my grandfathers transistor, the rise and fall of emotions as my family gathered around the tv, and the excitement of skipping out of middle school to go see the parade. A great moment in time for basketball and my childhood.
@KaranC17
@KaranC17 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful work boss🔥 this is exquisite!
@madelynroesch7279
@madelynroesch7279 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite was the Celtics in the 1950s Cousy, Heinsohn, Russell, KC Jones, coach Red Auerbach.
@greysonG10
@greysonG10 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, you must be pretty old Madelyn.
@usmanfarooq96
@usmanfarooq96 3 жыл бұрын
how about making a case series on 'Best Robin' (as in 2nd option to a batman) or most underrated player?
@TheGodOfAllChads
@TheGodOfAllChads 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say David Robinson before I read all of it
@JoaoVictor-mw8ln
@JoaoVictor-mw8ln 3 жыл бұрын
For a a bunch of seasons is scottie pipen for a single season is Kobe 2001
@Suporchin
@Suporchin 3 жыл бұрын
Best Robin is a great question. I'm sure someone will suggest Pip or Kobe, but those two were Batman and their teammates were Superman.
@RonnieG
@RonnieG 3 жыл бұрын
@@Suporchin Sure but pip was always a batman, whereas kobe had played superman for his team, for long stretches of his career.
@Rodneyjackson11
@Rodneyjackson11 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff man. Love these series
@Akbballer33
@Akbballer33 Жыл бұрын
Hats off to you, Lad! You really have a gift for storytelling- this was mad entertaining and informative to watch. Keep up the awesome work 🔥
@76JStucki
@76JStucki 3 жыл бұрын
This team and the ‘96 Bulls are my 1-2.... and I go back and forth on the order.
@paysonfox88
@paysonfox88 2 жыл бұрын
I posit that the 2001 Lakers would have taken both of those teams to game 7 at least. The 2001 Lakers are the very greatest team I'll ever watch. I wasn't around in the era of the Celtics , and I didn't even know about the NBA during the Bulls runs. But from all the tape and analytics I have studies, I can say that the playoff version of 2001 Lakers. The version that walked all over 4 X 50+ win teams, and had the hardest road to any championship by quality of total opponents, and STILL WENT 15-1 with that 1 loss being a close overtime affair vs Iverson. That version of the Lakers would beat anyone, or at least take them to a close nail biter game 7. I don't think the combo of Rodman, Scottie and Jordan alone could quite hold off MVP Shaq + 28 PPG Kobe with their support cast of defensive specialists and long range bombers like Fisher. The 2001 Lakers literally have an answer to everyone.
@jessmanuel540
@jessmanuel540 3 жыл бұрын
And if Len Bias did not die, they could have won a couple more championships.
@gumdeo
@gumdeo 3 жыл бұрын
1987 for sure.
@kevinadkins1524
@kevinadkins1524 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s goooo!!!! Love when you upload man you probably have my favorite channel on this whole site.
@jjb33083
@jjb33083 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video and this series.
@lacroyyy5642
@lacroyyy5642 2 жыл бұрын
Clayton "doesn't give a shit about Boston" Crowley
@hirshja
@hirshja 3 жыл бұрын
Clayton: Dunkin Donuts can go to hell as far as I'm concerned Me, a native Bostonian: This fuckin kid thinks he's betta than me?
@oliverdennis3115
@oliverdennis3115 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad that these videos spaced out and probably planned, these are more polished then the individual GOAT videos.
@justinbaskin5283
@justinbaskin5283 3 жыл бұрын
Clayton's videos are all great. I get really excited when I see a new one come out
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