Are the Forever Knights Cool Again?

[@DigiWarriorCallum]

It always bothered me that they never acknowledged Pierce dying here. Imagine if Ben went into that fight at the end with the mindset of doing it for Pierce and any of the other aliens the Knights murdered

[@Animestar21]

Hell we don’t even see the reactions of both his teammates or his friggin sister. And it would be so easy to fix. Instead of Argit coming out of nowhere, have Manny or Helen contact Max or Ben themselves and have them work alongside the team

[@Darkspyre2]

I legitimately didn't even know he'd died until they brought it up in... what, Omniverse?

[@MagillanicaLouM]

@@Animestar21 yeah it didn't really need to be Argit thinking back

[@jordandillow3423]

yes they brought it back in omniverse keep up slow poke

[@yxrackman2397]

It’s like Jet from ATLA lmao

[@SilverHyozanryu]

"Turn into way big, that'd be hilarious" That shit cracked me up good.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

Professor Paradox: there are an infinite number of universes, like the one where ben turns into way bug and throws O'Driscoll's bald arse into space. Causing the forever knights to disband permanently in perpetual pants pissing fear.

[@christophermitchell9739]

25:12 While I wouldn't call most of the Omnitrixes weapons, the Ultimatrix is the exception. It was designed for power, its forms are created through war simulations, and we know that it caused the sentient ultimates to suffer. The omnitrix was designed to create peaceful understanding and Ben uses it as a tool to do good, he's proven multiple times he's a hero without powers, but the Ultimatrix was created for combat.

[@justcoolerthenyou8926]

Which is a big reason why Azmuth hated the evolution feature.

[@christophermitchell9739]

@@justcoolerthenyou8926 Exactly

[@Eric6761]

And i think the Ultimatrix would be somewhat closer looking to OV omnitrix instead of actually looking like a gauntlet and makes me think it was made to substitute the glitched AF omnitrix

[@Tetraman_schlep]

I actually think albedo turned evil because of the ultimatrix and working with vilgax

[@randomturd1415]

Omnitrices*

[@zaxreg6418]

Pierce's death would've been much more impactful if they showed any sort of consequences for it, have Manny and Helen lose it again like when they were introduced and have max feel like he failed to keep a kid under his care safe, anything other than just never acknowledging it

[@axelnilsson5124]

Kevin did mention it in Weapon XI part 1 as one of the reasons why Ben never getting the omnitrix would have been better even if it was an act

[@aldordz5768]

@@axelnilsson5124 He technically still be alive, but I'm not sure how that would that be Ben's fault. He's the reason he got his powers, but it wasn't he's fault Pierce die. If anything, it is servantis fault for making everyone think they're half alien when they are technically still human.

[@ryanwiebe4096]

Yeah,I Always Thought That Was So Stupid. Make Us CARE About Pierce's Death

[@mitchjervis8453]

They couldn't, since then the Plumbers Helpers would actually matter and not only be a plot device for the Highbreed Arc.

[@StanHanrahan]

The knights used to always confuse me, their intentions or agenda was never really clear to me. All i could understand watching them as a kid is that they where in the business of scavenging alien tech, and often used as filler villains. I'm glad they got a more important arc in UAF. Always good to see another great breakdown! also how did i not notice mr Baumann was in UAF :0

[@Theokal3]

Don't worry, neither did I for Baumann. Like Kuro said, the two versions are so different it's hard to even believe they're the same character. I only know they are because I went to check TvTropes.

[@auditect950]

Kevin: Did Pierce just die? Ben: You know, it was really unclear.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

15:32 when he said "very small thing" and zoomed into Gwen 💀 also I think what "honourable" meant for Ben was to not choose an insta win alien like Way Big and keep it more grounded and fair

[@yashbjoshi12]

True,I noticed it the second he stop on gwen

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Still pretty unbalanced by going umtimate.

[@gammaf1365]

@@fightingmedialounge519 dude ult spider monkey got his ass beaten by psyphon and sunder

[@fightingmedialounge519]

@@gammaf1365 yeah, two aliens with different physiology to a human.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

@@fightingmedialounge519 Ultimate was him going his full power while still maintaining honor, if they wanted to take away his Ultimate in this fight Driscol shouldn't have been allowed to use his weapons too

[@Tinkatube]

Should be said, the "Wielder of the most powerful weapon" line is accurate because Albedo's Ultimatrix is actually a weapon. Or at least, was modified INTO a weapon by Albedo. Whatever research purpose it had before Albedo installed the energy core into it, it's now a weapon: the most powerful weapon in the universe.

[@petelee2477]

The chrono sapion time bomb or the anihilaarg might challenge that notion

[@Tinkatube]

​@@petelee2477 Sure, but Ben didn't know about either of those yet, and I don't believe the Knights did either. To Ben's knowledge, he has the most powerful object specifically designed as a weapon. My point is, the Omnitrix is a research tool with the potential to be used as a weapon, but after Albedo got his hands on it? It was 100% a weapon, completely.

[@izukumidoriya8600]

@@petelee2477 Alien X is in the ultimatrix so it is the most powerful weapon

[@vgngolley341]

@@petelee2477 The Omnitrix is definitely more powerful than both those devices since Ben was able to reverse their effects

[@Omega-uc7wl]

​@@petelee2477not really since the ultamatrix still has alien x and clock work

[@frostythesharkpup2754]

In the duel scene, Kevin was basically the whole fanbase: "Dude, go for Way Big, that would be hilarious" Yes Kevin, it would be hilarious

[@deeznut709]

I would pay to see that

[@gammaf1365]

me in the maltruant arc with alien x

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

Kevin says to step on Looma to in OV

[@deeznut709]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 Imagine if ben did it with *WAYBIG*

[@cooper3814]

Ben should've used Upchuck, remember Ben almost killed Driscoll as Upchuck! If he has PTSD, Driscoll would've been 😨😱😱😱😱😱😵😵😵😵😵😵 And Ben would just as *Upchuck* and just stand there staring at him for 2 seconds and just turn back human

[@Jack-sy8mr]

They really should’ve had Driscoll in armor that looked like his classic series Forever King, it took me years to realize they were the same character

[@armedweiss5531]

Or at the very least a similar type of armor. Driscoll is unrecognizable without it since he spent all hsi screentime in the suit.

[@HiperPivociarz]

Argit is growing bigger and bigger with each subsequent appearance! If we don't do anything, soon he'll be kaiju sized.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

I would explain how he was able to beat a way bad

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

Would explain how he took out a waybad all by himself

[@axelnilsson5124]

I’m just imagining that in Frogs of War Part 2 instead of shooting his quills at the Way Bad he’s actually fighting her like hand-locked and everything

[@nikewall6692]

For me, I always saw Ben threatening the Forever Knights as him transitioning into Ben 10,000, the one who took out Vilgax and feels he doesn’t have time for family or friends anymore. Would have been interesting to see him slowly turn into that Ben.

[@PiotrekDuncan7885]

Agreed! it would be very interesting to see him slowly move in this direction and at the same time show how important the people around him like Gwen, Kevin, Julie, his parents and Grandpa Max are and thanks to their presence does not change this counter incarnation of himself.

[@christianparrish3292]

Imagine in Driscoll's mind when he saw Upchuck again, he's thinking about two things. One, oh no, not again! And two, why does he look different?

[@axelnilsson5124]

Would be great if the sight of Upchuck frightens Driscoll kinda like Scott with Fang in Total Drama

[@rondo3800]

Maybe its a different artstyle

[@julianadams3710]

@@rondo3800it’s because Upchucks species is split into two subspecies and both are in the watch as separate forms. This time he’s the other one so he canonically does look different.

[@nabilnashat7977]

The problem with that is it was supposed to be artstyle difference then omniverse said subspecies so it was supposed to be the same alien in uaf​@@julianadams3710

[@otadota8864]

@@julianadams3710yeah but Driscoll doesn't know that, that was the point of the comment

[@calvinmatthews1527]

Ben's threat to Driscoll was legendary man! Ben tells him some of his greatest feats with such an imposing demeanor plus it doesn't come off as braggy or condescending, he's just giving straight facts. Truly one of the most iconic moments in the franchise!

[@nateds7326]

Seeing Ben just straight up threaten to murder the leader of the forever knights if he doesn't stop his alien extermination was spine chilling as a kid and still awesome now. It really made me realize how easily Ben could just waste his enemies if he wasn't a good person.

[@theredgaruda]

The scene where Ben threatened Driscoll shows how intense this show was at times.

[@trentenogletree5898]

@theglassespro4557 As Kuro once said "darkness and edginess is not what makes a great cartoon." case-and-point, Velma.

[@celestialsoldier622]

If you think that was Dark you need to grow up.

[@trentenogletree5898]

@theglassespro4557 personally, I don't think going darker tone would have made the series better or anything, I think it would have had a more negative consequence rather than positive and since the 2003 TMNT went down route in their 4th season and most just found it to be "edgy for the sake of being edgy" there wasn't really a reason for a some of the gruesomeness some of the scenes would bring (most notably in the Baxter Stockman episode, where he was literally falling apart) other than "it was edgy". Besides the first Ben 10 cartoon wasn't all that dark and people love it and for some of the points you made about AF and OV, for the most part they knew when to have jokes and when to get serious in screens.

[@KangarooMonkey]

So… not really dark just kinda dim. The shows had plenty of dark moments in it, I just don’t think this is one of them.

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

@@trentenogletree5898 yeah

[@brucesimmons5517]

I have to admit, this arc fully redeemed the Forever Knights for me. Not a fan of them in the original series and certainly not UAF, but here they finally got interesting.

[@axelnilsson5124]

Which makes their “redemption” kinda for nothing when Joseph reunites the remaining knight for the second half of Omniverse

[@FMK03]

@@axelnilsson5124 OV backtracking on UAF's lore is the curse that keeps on damning. It's similar to how the ones behind the ST constantly had opposing ideas of where the story would go despite the fact they had nothing to do with George's film hexalogy and the superior EU.

[@reviewersuniverse]

Well, while I will say that I take SOME issues with the retcons that OV had against UAF, I don’t really think that the retcons are necessarily really knew when compared to the OG to UAF series, especially since there were a lot of major changes that UAF did, and some of the changes that OV had were simply more similar to the OG series. (And as a personal opinion, I feel like there are some changes in OV that I felt were for the better, so I don’t think it was entirely a problem)

[@au7923]

@Axel Nilsson By omniverse, the forever knights should have been gone, but they weren't, which makes me question why the writers, or network, brought them back.

[@au7923]

@Reviewers Universe I wouldn't say that. Both UAF and OV had bad retcon, and I wouldn't say that even some of the retcons were for the better, but let's not argue, and let's just respect our opinons.

[@hert2458]

Pierce's felt should've been acknowledged by the trio imo, felt so random to kill off one of your characters without them at least being noticed by your characters. Also, liked the scene of Ben threatening Driscoll and the Knights, honestly it makes sense for Ben to be pissed off

[@cooper3814]

it does make an emotional thing for 2 seconds in Omniverses, in that ine scene where Kevin turns on Ben

[@drangc0bex119]

I kinda love the idea of 2 Baumann's just cause I can see the conversation they'd have like OV Baumann - "Ugh Tennyson was in again today...." AF Baumann - "Oh Benjamin, How is he? We should invite him and Max over for dinner."

[@aktivniigomes1989]

yeah, I kinda like it too, and more add to that I think the OV Baumann is older brother and UA Baumann is young one, so that's why they act differently

[@WebofSpeedForceTS-FU]

Let's be honests: this is the third most serious moment of the character. First time was when he almost killed Kevin 11K, then when he was willing to do it in Ultimate Kevin arc, and finally, here he establishes that, despite he is not used to take a life, he is willing to do it if he looks it necessarily, showing how compromised he is to the cause of protecting others.

[@steakhero]

Killing out of self defense/to save innocents isn’t compromised morals that’s good morals imo

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Wouldn’t say Ben 10k nearly killing Kevin should be compared to the other two moments since that was out of anger.

[@SpectacularSpidey670]

i like the idea of Baumann having a twin brother who sometimes take care of his store, and unlike his other brother this one actually likes Ben, good thinking Kuro!

[@JAYDOG1337A]

Maybe the reason Baoman(I think that's how it's spelled) didn't tell them immediately is because he was worried they were forever knights wearing ID masks to look like them trying to trick him.

[@Kikssune2]

YES!!! Thank you, Team Ink Tank!! I'm fully supporting you all! Have a blessed day! ❤

[@BeastForce141]

I know it’s late but, Sir George voice actor has passed away. R.I.P Peter Reneday. He passed away on September 8, 2024

[@trevoranthony3018]

RIP Hamato Yoshi and Sir George

[@rhyperiorhunter7339]

I know this is gonna be a hot take but I'm saying it anyway I liked that the forever knights were written to be so pathetic as their whole point is that the order had been corrupted by petty infighting among its factions, and had lost sight of their original goal, so when George reunites them it makes sense that they're a threat again as they have regained their original leader and purpose

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

I guess there's some sense there. Still there rise to prominence isn't enough to balance out their fail streak

[@rhyperiorhunter7339]

@@GreaterGrievobeast55 I understand but I do still think that the knights being so unbelievably pathetic was kind of the point

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

@@rhyperiorhunter7339 i'm not sure of bringing old George was the plan the whole time. We know the alien dragons were gonna be more important then they ended up being so it seems not everything went their way.

[@fightingmedialounge519]

@@rhyperiorhunter7339 pretty sure that was a retroactive justification for past episodes.

[@BeastForce141]

Ben Tennyson speech at the end, lives with me rent free for years.

[@ksoundkaiju9256]

Mine pays me 50 a month

[@theamazingspooderman2697]

he is good with speeches, we also see him motivating the people from Mad Ben's dimension to raise their voices and ofc we can't forget his speech to JT and Cash

[@fightingmedialounge519]

@@theamazingspooderman2697 wouldn't say his speech to jt and cash was all that impressive.

[@zeroknight1311]

You're right about Ben acting the way he does in this episode making sense. Since he had failed multiple times and seen great injustice regarding how Bradley was treated. So I kinda wish we seen more of Ben with this kind of Attitude in Omniverse. Since he can just threaten certain enemies who poses a great danger to Earth and those he cares about. I mean the Incursion Invasion of Earth that occurred in Omniverse wouldn't had happened if Ben threatened to destroy the entire species. Like he becomes one of the powerhouses inside of the Watch to prove a point by destroying a forth of the army with very little effort. And before anyone say anything, I don't condone violence. But for Ben, he would use it to get his point across.

[@yashbjoshi12]

@TheGlassesPro He kinda did that with incurseans in "Incursean invasion" arc in omniverse

[@yashbjoshi12]

He was going for that but Grandpa max interrupted him.

[@Theokal3]

I honestly do not know if I would have gone that far personally. But I do agree OV needed at least a few dark moments like this.

[@yashbjoshi12]

@@Theokal3 It had many dark moments tbh

[@Theokal3]

@@yashbjoshi12 Such as?

[@LoerisOtter]

I think that regenerating normal, non-metal arm is harder, because there are a lot of different "materials". Bone, muscle, skin and etc. While metal is just metal

[@akdrzllol1698]

Not even just this moment but every time Ben gets serious it’s always great to see. Even in og I feel like they always handled the serious scenes well🤝🏾

[@strongerthanever2039]

24:26 If I remember correctly taking your helmet off symbolises readiness for death in the knight code, and they are knights after all. So he basically was like "Ok. I either kill Tennyson here or I die trying!"

[@frederick0709]

Wow...That's really interesting! Cool fact!

[@strongerthanever2039]

@@frederick0709 Thanks! I'm glad to see somebody liked it!

[@theintrepid7583]

This would have been a great time to introduce Undertown. This episode also implies the public knows about aliens living on Earth, since Baumann's store casually stocks alien food. But this seems to have been soft retconned by season 3 of Omniverse.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

that's most likely not even the top floor of his busines

[@summoner0005]

16:30 You're looking too closely to the US for parallels here. While yes there is some of that in this episode in terms of trying to get aliens to "go back to where they came from", this also has parallels to Nazi Germany. The way Boumen is sheltering the aliens from the persecution of the knights on a holy crusade more closely resembles of how Dutch and other European families would hide Jews from the Nazi soldiers.

[@rogerkirby6883]

That’s what I was thinking. This episode definitely had more of a holocaust vibe than illegal immigration

[@fightingmedialounge519]

To be fair he did acknowledge this happens around the world, not just the US.

[@acmeanvil3022]

Good episode and a much needed return-to-form for the Forever Knights. I'm definitely not a fan however of how they brushed over Pierce getting murdered, not even acknowledging up until the Weapon XI two-parter nearly a hundred episodes later. It's also kind of confusing how George's first order was to wage war against all aliens on Earth, but later on they paint him as a hero who even knows Azmuth.

[@wijinsama]

Breakdowns are officially a way for Kuro to open talk about his thoughts about the Ben 10 franchise, and I love it.

[@t.v.rockwell4504]

I say that Kevin can't regenerate in his normal body, only when he's absorbed something like metal, wood, or anything. He needs to be actively using his power for it to work. So if Kevin had his hand cut off when he's in his normal state, his hand is gone. If he gets it cut off while he's using his power and goes back, it's gone, it'll be a stub. As for the removed hand, since it's not attacked to Kevin, it'll revert back to normal, so he can't just pick it up and reattach it.

[@Nelsito99]

21:32 interesting that we see the hologram for Upchuck before Loadstar and then Ben mistransforms into Upchuck

[@milesbradshaw6643]

I'm going with Kuro's head-canon of UAF Baumann and OV Baumann being siblings rather than the same person.

[@harryblocks]

My head canon on Kevin's "Material Regeneration" is it'll leave a flesh stub if he becomes normal since it was a clean smooth wound. He wouldn't be able to regenerate directly from his base human form since I'm guessing the "Absorbing DNA makes you crazy" or just it's cause how complex making a new arm is rather than just simply make "more metal" which is a make workable material to use. Plus it'll probably be painful to regenerate new flesh so being made of another material makes it more comfortable to shapeshift etc

[@yaminogame]

The man, the myth, the legend has returned for more breakdowns 😊

[@TheNightTyrant]

Sir Geoge was an amazing character, Him dying on screen was like WOW CN would never allow such, Props to Ultimate Alien crew for pushing boundries.

[@crazebanana6432]

I feel like, if kevin wasn’t transformed, kevin wouldn’t be able to heal his hand back. Mostly because of how complicated the human body is with all the muscle,bone,bloodvessels, blood the nails ect But if he transformed to a material he’d be able to regen, especially with him being one element right through

[@Neo232100]

This episode makes me think of a Superman story arc called Superman and the Legion of Superheroes where we find out in the 31st century that there has being a massive uptick in xenophobia and hatefulness towards aliens due to some bad guys perverting Superman's history, whereas there it was depicted as some kind of scheme. But later Legion stories in that era did showcase that even if it turned out to be a lie there was still a large issue of racism towards the species in the United Planets. Hell they even use the phrase "Earth is for Earthlings." And considering that the story started out in 2007 and Dwayne McDuffie did work on several DC books there might have been some crossover of ideas.

[@Ale_LSH]

That one is a fantastic story with incredible art, one of the best the Legion of Super-Heroes has to offer imo. It was written by Geoff Johns and drawn by Gary Frank, happened in issues #858 to #863 of Action Comics published between 2007 and 2008. Highly recommend it.

[@piko8434]

During AF and UA, when Ben wanted to transform into a specific alien, the chances of that alien's hologram first appearing happened a lot. Ironically, when Ben wanted to change in Lodestar but Upchuck's hologram appeared first but he still changed into Upchuck. Kuro, have you ever wondered why the alien Ben wants appear first? Due you think the Omnitrix and Ultrimatrix is like connected to his brain (thought patterns) during AF/UA?

[@FirestoneAnimation]

Honestly I like the threatening form of Ben. His current state of mind if "I'm freaking sick of this bs so you either quit it or I can make it short and easy."

[@LOMZI-10]

I see Ben calling the Ultimatrix a weapon as being more fitting seeing as it was originally created for combat whilst the actual Omnitrices were tools meant for peace, but yeah, I also agree with Kuro’s assessment too. Threatening a person with a “peace tool” is a whole lot less impactful than threatening them with “the most powerful weapon in the universe”.

[@Mohamad-m7md]

the omnitrix is still a weapon regardless of its intent pretending it's not a weapon is just foolish

[@rehanakhund2578]

@@Mohamad-m7md is mayonnaise a weopeon?

[@Mohamad-m7md]

@@rehanakhund2578 What do you think ?

[@rehanakhund2578]

@@Mohamad-m7md you can spray it over someone's eyes so yes I guess.

[@ZayTh3God]

The ultimatrix is part weapon part omnitrix it still keeps the original purpose of the Omnitrix but has an evolutionary feature used for battles

[@Rose-yx6jq]

Frick yeah!!! First full breakdown of the year! And it's forever knights episode. This is one of my favorite episodes of UA. Because of the scene from the far right of the thumbnail.

[@starcatcher9699]

A part of me wonders if, instead of the fight scene, the trio got a call regarding Pierce's death in the original plans for the episode and that was what prompted them to start investigating the knights but for whatever reason they didn't go through with it like maybe the scene was too dark or something. I could see that happening and we still would've gotten Ben's speech at the end there. Heck, it could've hit even harder if we had that scene.

[@CheezsterYT]

Ben: ULTIMATE SPIDERMONKEY!!! Kuro: Oh look, Squire's here!

[@anotherjason]

Ah, the iconic "I'm Ben Tenyson" speech. Never saw this until it resurged in popularity after airing, But i'm glad i got to see it regardless

[@dohickey7184]

12:03 Kuro here must be part pyronite cuz holy shit man that burn was savage

[@neekogregory]

Feel weird watching this on a Saturday morning after so long

[@cringegoku674]

fr

[@guilhermemarinho9861]

The Mr.Baumann retcon is honestly the best in the series because his reactions to Ben wrecking his shop are always fun to me

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

It's a Denis the menace reference and it works. Dude would've been boring if he loved ben.

[@pjdianalan7934]

I honestly believe that the Baumann in UA and the one in OV are different dudes, relatives(maybe brothers).

[@christianparrish3292]

I love the line that lodestar said to Kevin. I didn't tell you to absorb metal.

[@christianparrish3292]

Breakdowns live again! Also, good morning everyone.

[@Бобёр-ю8г]

nice

[@RoyalInspiration]

Good morning

[@Anime-117]

25:28 Careful Ben, you're starting to sound like a certain Ninja

[@Anime-117]

@user-fl4fi9pc5v buzz off bot

[@typedullx]

I love when Ben gets serious and threatening. In the episode where he fights the Plumber kids you realize how terrifying Ben would be as a villain or anti-hero. Often times it's shown he's way more intelligent than he seems. I honestly believe he'd be scarier than Albedo. While the reason they were restrained is unknown, the escape choreography shows how skilled they can be and further emphasizes how inconsistent it's being portrayed. I hate how Pierce dies but it's all just shoved under the rug. Even in Omniverse it's barely mentioned. It would've been better if instead of Argit, who barely does anything, Pierce's death would've been the catalyst to the plot. Also, I wish Gwen would have reacted to Kevin's hand being cut off

[@endrendstudios7665]

No way the scam bots got to Ink Tank too

[@an-animal-lover]

@@endrendstudios7665 is there a pattern to be recognized Like the more popular/well known a channel is, the more likely the scam bots will be all over it?

[@MagillanicaLouM]

Happy they're back. Been catching the mini ones too

[@J1P2K]

@TheInkTank Another air force base near St. Louis is Scott Airforce Base near Shiloh and O'Fallon, IL. It's about a 30-minute drive to and from the base, and the base was founded in 1917. The base was featured in the 2018 Rampage movie that started The Rock.

[@golisobro5296]

23:33 i think when ben says he has to win with honor, he isn’t speaking about his own morals or beliefs but instead that the forever knights might not respect the fight if he doesn’t win with honor

[@hankunis2051]

You should have a counter in omniverse whenever Ben damages Mr. Baumans or pacmar's properties.

[@kurt50alien]

13:25 The new thing reminds me a bit of Rex firing Ben out of the Slam Cannon from Heroes United. In terms of one character launching another through the enemy with a lot force. Maybe that's where the idea for the new thing came from.

[@retroforager]

I literally did not register the fact that pierce was actually K-ed off when I first watched this. But all the kill talk in the second half made me rethink that.

[@januhelj3796]

This is my favourite series on youtube and has been for a long time, it helped me reconect with mu childhood favourite show, thank you!!

[@ScoobertDoobert5123]

I don't think Kevin could regenerate outside of a material form, because he's always gone insane after absorbing organic matter/DNA up to this point, and (in my head atleast) it makes sense to me that if he tried this, it might work but over time I thunk he would slowly go mad again

[@sumeracarnatia6997]

NRG: I challenge you to a duel. *detransforms* Driscoll: Wha- What was the point of that? Ben: I just wanted to hear myself say that with that voice.

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

23:38 I could see it more as "There's enough knights that winning this fight, even as thoroughly and effortlessly as possible, isn't enough. We need to convince them via their own screwed up moral system that we DESERVE to not hsve to deal with them anymore."

[@kikyobi2573]

18:42 did Kuro just say enhanced jumping? The 5yl wiki is gonna have a field day with this one.

[@Door3234]

when I heard the episode title I just went "Holy shit it's THAT episode"

[@officialtroysolo]

Driscoll really said "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!" in the beginning of the episode 😂

[@bensonabernathy4664]

I would really like if you would actually do a full breakdown of the episode where the ultimates gain sentience. I liked the direction that the episode was going with.

[@parttimelazy4593]

I wonder how many villains realize that the reason Ben hasn't just snapped them away is because he's a good man.

[@axelnilsson5124]

Same can be said about Spider-Man considering the Superior Spider-Man story arc

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

Imma be real, I just think futuristic knights are sick. Glad they kinda picked themselves up in this arc.

[@christianparrish3292]

@TheGlassesPro is there a reason why you keep posting the same comments?

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

@TheGlassesPro the average citizen doesn't have to deal with Alien BS commonly enough to be that bold. The forever knights also have the charisma of an emotionally stunted hermit crab. No way they'd get an average joe wielding sword and shield, not even george... *especially* not George!

[@TheEagleWithNoName]

Kuro; the VA for sir George is still Alive. Peter Renaday is still doing VA work with his latest being Archer in 2017. I think the 2011 was his wife who passed away.

[@SecretMagician]

Peter Renaday has unfortunately passed away a few days ago now.

[@christianparrish3292]

Yeah, who had the idea to make Enoch's mouth move? It was so weird.

[@axelnilsson5124]

I think it’s supposed to be a different mask because there are masks where the mouth moves when your actual mouth moves

[@levievil9220]

@@axelnilsson5124but why would he change his mask

[@axelnilsson5124]

@@levievil9220 maybe it was disposed of?

[@avch1209]

8:53 If there he had known that his power comes from peanuts it would have been epic to see him in his giant form

[@axelnilsson5124]

That’s obviously not something that they thought of until Omniverse

[@ninjadandy9166]

Yesss finally I have been waiting so long! Thank you! I know you guys have worked hard and needed the break! Please keep us updated

[@southanime]

10:44 It's hard not seeing where the Forever Knights mindset come from, since even in the show every alien on earth is directly or indirectly responsible for a near end of the world scenario

[@ArtTheGaleWind]

I honestly love the story of Jeorge and the dragon is implemented into the Ben 10 lore with it's own unique ben 10 twist to the original tale, like ever since I got into the Fate series I started to love franchises that imcorporate historic figures or events into their lore in a way that makes sense, and that made me love Jeorge so much more as a result

[@AwesomeSaucerMC]

Visually I always assumed that Ultimate Spidermonkey was just bending the metal of Driscoll’s armor. If it remained as permanent damage through the rest of the episode I think it’s be clearer

[@nenmaster5218]

If you care for Video-Essays and/or Analysis like this here, try Some More News, Madvocate, or Jay Exci.

[@strongerthanever2039]

21:17 I think it's just like with his other powers. He most certainly can't do something like this right now, like he wasn't able to regen at all in the past, but maybe in the future? Who knows?

[@garpogods8323]

15:31 "very small thing too" *Zooms in on her chest*

[@Benjamin2099Tennyson]

I think Kuro like them biig.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

lmao

[@AlienSteel5253]

6:40 this part always gave me chills

[@altersol7255]

I heard your idea for Kevin's powers and would like to propose a balance since I know someone is going to say something. What if he can take the energy he absorbs and uses that as energy for his regeneration but can later push it even further, like optimize his base body without external material or DNA and can use what he's stockpiled for variations on ranged offense like energy slashes. I don't know if he's done that, I may be forgetting, but it can help Gwen since she's mostly ranged and compliment Ben to keep the enemy in front of him or set a target up for Ben to hit. For the close range he could charge and restructure his muscles first before adding material to strengthen himself further. Thinking practically Osmosians are like an imperfect omnitrix so Kevin using that idea as a basis for how he fights could compliment most of Ben's fighting styles. I could be asking and wishing too much but the amount of growth we see him go through makes me think he still has much further to go in term of what he can do with his powers.

[@wheresprototype3507]

The only time I think or at least I remember Pierce dying being mentioned was by Kevin in Omniverse during the Servantis 2 parter

[@athenendley889]

I feel like when Ben transformed into NRG for the second time, it was to act like a threat in order to keep the forever knights at bay, and then when he challenged Driscoll to a duel, he then knew that the rest of the knights wouldn't attack,because of their whole honor thing, making it safe for him to detransform from NRG.

[@tonigallagher3064]

4:53 Peter Reneday is actually still alive. He only stopped voicing in 2011.

[@JOHN-DUBS]

I just watched Omniverse and now I'm dying to see these breakdowns

[@alexrecrem9094]

The only thing I don't like about this arc is that they never acknowledge how George started an alien genicide. Would have been better if Driscol went *against* George who likes aliens because one gave him the sword, but Driscol hates aliens and that's also why he stole from the plumbers.

[@bobbyahmad5197]

It’s very sad to see pierce go….. I wish there would’ve been an omniverse episode of Helen going on a rampage with the knights and then Ben rook and even the helpers and max try to help her and reassure her

[@bobbyahmad5197]

@TheGlassesPro I know but I was thinking of Chadwick’s faction and then he captures her then the team rescues her

[@bobbyahmad5197]

@TheGlassesPro it was three but yeah

[@bobbyahmad5197]

@TheGlassesPro bengeance is mine in the beginning with water hazard

[@bobbyahmad5197]

@TheGlassesPro and there you go

[@SakuraLovesong]

Return to Forever, “Chadwhack” built an alien genocide machine that nearly murdered millions of aliens (including Rook) but before it could go off, Jury Rigg ultimately rewired it before it to turn Harangue (who was in cahoots with the knights) into an alien.

[@astrodawn578]

Finally back and dang is this cool. The Ben 10 recap is some of the fun of Ink Tank, outside the great art.

[@Aimez-da-Llama]

Killing Pierce here feels like when they killed off Labrid, or Gilhil. It kinda works, but we didn't know them well enough and their deaths aren't focused on enough for it to actually land. Ben 10 isn't really a show where character deaths matter, so I wish they had done something different, like having the knights kidnap and experiment on Pierce and the other aliens, like it was kinda established they did in the classic series when they were going to dissect Greymatter. Idk, it just feels like they wasted a bunch of characters with a lot of potential for shock value that didn't even work

[@treytheriot825]

I honestly didn’t think Pierce was dead when I saw this episode

[@axelnilsson5124]

I didn’t realize it until Omniverse and wiki research where I found out he died here

[@CrazyJabberwock]

The rabbit hole goes deeper, could kevin use his powers to give himself additional limbs?

[@bensonabernathy4664]

Glad the breakdowns are back.

[@solarwarrigil1364]

When it comes to Kevin's powers, he needs an external source to absorb, I feel like he could regenerate, but he needs an external source to "absorb" and can't use his own skin.

[@kingzone512]

(Ben 10 playlist) Brawn: Speed: Brain: Flyer: Water: Fazer/Invisible: Durable: Elemental: Regenerative: Miscellaneous: Brawn: Humungasaur Speed: Jetray Brain: Grey Matter Flyer: Big Chill Water: Ripjaw Fazer/Invisible: Ghostfreak Durable: Diamondhead Elemental: Heatblast Regenerative: Swampfire Miscellaneous: Feedback When I mean Water I mean Best fighter in Water. (Underrated Aliens) In my opinion underrated aliens… 1. Goop 2. Bloxx 3. Armodrillo 4. Frankenstrike 5. Chromastone 6. Upgrade 7. Pesky 8. Stinkfly (Not crappy Reboot) 9. Toepick 10. Worse

[@sdbzfan1]

To me ben saying the dual has to be with honor wasnt for integrety but to shove the knighs hypocrisy back in their face, they claim honor yet non of them back it up when it matters but ben plays by their rules and still wins showing that no matter what option he takes he will win even when not trying to kill Also the point of honor was no killing and one on one so ultimates are still honorable

[@theswankygoat6934]

I think in this instance calling the watch a weapon is fine because not only is he trying to intimidate the knights, but it's also the Ultimatrix which is definitely more of a weapon since it's basically just a weaponized Omnitrix. And also yeah, I think Ben's arc in Ultimate Alien is getting his ideals challenged by constantly being put in positions where the enemy is too strong or evil to where killing them is on the table, and he has to struggle with not going down that road, finally culminating in the ultimate test of self control in the final episode.

[@I_Stole_Your_Toast]

23:40 the reason Ben has to fight honourably, is because there would be no chance of the knights honouring Ben's terms if he didn't fight justly

[@SRMites]

Very Small thing to point 15:32 Proceeds to point towards Gwens chest.