Are the new Pirelli PZERO Race TLR RS the BEST New Road Bike Tire?

[@outdoorbros_]

Questions? Drop them below.

[@michprent]

Are you ready for the update yet?

[@billybelsom6285]

Which tire width will you be testing?

[@outdoorbros_]

30mm. 28mm feels so small these days.

[@BrandonAquino-mu5fl]

@@outdoorbros_ Chris, I mounted the PZero RACE TLR 30mm before these new RS came out a day later. UGH

[@UltimateTuner10]

BRR testing on these just came out and they may be the new performance all rounder king. Gives up half a watt per tire to the S TR, but had way better grip and puncture score

[@charlesmansplaining]

I'm always keen to get new tires, send me a set and I'll be glad to test them.

[@outdoorbros_]

If you find a way to get a set for free, I’d love to know how.

[@charlesmansplaining]

@@outdoorbros_ I just ask, but if they say no I can't help you.

[@RonBalone]

Questions for the Pirellis: - How are they to mount? - their pressure guidelines seem higher than avg, formy weight they rec 90 PSI (which would be above my wheel's guidance). What is up there? - Obvious: Ride feel, specifically cornering. - w/ Silca sealant I think puncture protection is almost a thing of the past, but if you got thoughts here by all means. - Longevity: where Pirelli has ALWAYS missed the mark w/ me. I might 3-4k miles on GPs, rarely do I get more than 1-1.5k out of pirellis.

[@DesertTriDad]

Same, when it comes to race tires, I was burning through PZeros compared to the GP5000. With that said the cinturato is the best daily training tire that I’ve ever used.

[@kidsafe]

1) Extremely tight bead. Mounting requires levers, seating is easily done with a floor pump. 2) Use online tire pressure calculators (SRAM AXS or Silca.) 3) Ride feel is great, among the best of any vulcanized tire. ENVE/Tufo and Goodyear are also good in this regard. 4) Orange Seal over Silca Ultimate. 5) I get 4800mi from 28mm GP5K S TRs. Hardly anyone has used up a set of P Zero Race TLR RS. The regular versions last me about 3000mi.

[@razorree]

Pirelli tires' widths are all over the place... :/ Race TLR 28mm measures 26.5mm on mine 19mm rims ! Road (non-tlr) measures 29mm !!! and I heard that Race RS TLR are in a middle (~28mm?).

[@outdoorbros_]

Probably depends on the wheel width- I’ll double check mine!

[@razorree]

@@outdoorbros_ 28mm tires (P Zero Road, GP 5000) bead to bead width measure around 74mm (unmounted tire, could be folded like in a box), Race TLR measures only 70mm !!!

[@umah.]

Vittoria Corsa, everyone?

[@outdoorbros_]

For the first 800 miles, sure. But that’s an expensive 800 miles.

[@carboncrank2250]

When GP5000 s came out, they took out a layer on the base to reduce weight. But that decreased puncture protection. The new vittoria corsa pro were sick. Definitely the fastest tire I've raced but they only lasted about 600 miles before splitting. Pirelli p zero I can get a year out of riding, even took on some gravel roads. Feels fastest than GP5000. Vittoria was faster though but I love the puncture protection of the Pirelli for me. Its all personal for tires though and everyone has different road conditions. Sucks they didn't do gum wall for these so I'll be passing. And if they took a layer out I lose confidence in puncture protection. But we will see how others do, still love my Pirelli p zero race tlr classic.

[@outdoorbros_]

Good points! We’ll see how the new one holds up.

[@PatrickDelorenzi]

Just set up a pair of 700x32 of these... Wow. They really are amazing

[@ronlosa9544]

You have Enve bikes, what do you think about the Enve SES tires, road and/or race?

[@MiamiCycling305]

Not a question. More of a statement. I recently started riding a 2024 Propel SL Zero and it came with 25mm cadex aero tires and I just can’t seem to fall in love with them. I have my options narrowed to Ole reliable Conti STR Vitoria Corsa Pro (never ridden) These new P Zeros

[@josiahlomas2111]

But do they come in tan wall(gumwall)....yeah exactly

[@outdoorbros_]

They don’t, unfortunately.

[@dainiusvysniauskas2049]

Luckily, no

[@josiahlomas2111]

@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 tan wall is stylish....

[@farelakasya]

hey chris, are you interested on doing a review of enve foundation?

[@fo2456]

How do they hold up so far?

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Dethroning GP5000 is no easy task (impossible?), however, I won't cut Pirelli short. In motorcycle sport touring they make the Angel GT tire, long known for exceptional handling, grip, and longevity. Pirelli has the know-how to make a great tire, but c'mon, we're talking about GP5000. It's not just the rolling resistance, these are the most puncture resistant tire on the market.

[@masonsadventures3310]

the GP5000 has notoriously poor punture resistance compared to other tire in its class

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

@@masonsadventures3310 What planet are you from?? Try comparing like for like, not GP5000 versus Brand X Bombproof Trail Rated tire.

[@benhardwick1970]

@@user-cx2bk6pm2factually I’ve had gp 5000’s puncture on me constantly and many of my friends also. Pirelli offer far better puncture resistance in my experience

[@masonsadventures3310]

@@user-cx2bk6pm2f basically any other tire from any of the manufacturer has better puncture resistance to the GP 5000 that’s not what they’re known for. I see people complaining all the time with punctures on GP 5000.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

@@masonsadventures3310 How old are you, 12? Immature. Troll-ish. Blocked.

[@milkdud3618]

Just blew a front sidewall at 30 mph and after the road rash, concussion and fractured rib I’m returning to Continental GP. Setup was on hooked road wheels at 90 psi.

[@RefRMart10]

My mustang car pirelli p zero tires i had nothing but problems with. Side wall air bubbles multiple times. So hearing you had a sidewall blowout doesn’t surprise Me. I’m sorry that happened man. I think I’m going a different route as well. I want to love these tires but don’t wanna take a chance.

[@christophermeier1770]

Question: can you send me some tires to test out myself? We can then follow up every 3 to 6 weeks on the status and ride experience to help develop a video.

[@outdoorbros_]

If you’re going to make the videos, Pirelli might send you a set.

[@flennboyd6413]

Could you maybe do a cheap bike build challenge? For us common folk who can't drop $7k+ on a bike?

[@thebrunoserge]

Their widest tire is 30? LOL already outdated. Why can't speedy slick models offer wider options? At least 32 and 35 FFS. So dumb