Are The Official Sovol SV08 Upgrades Worth It?

[@ModBotArmy]

Sovol reached with some feedback: 1. For the HDMI screen, currently we have 3 ways to install it: At first our HDMI screen and knob screen are designed to function at the same time. So it’s just placed on the side of the machine and does not require the customer to print anything. Later, many customers said that they wanted to replace the position of the knob screen with an HDMI screen. So we temporarily designed a bracket for customers to print. That’s why this installation method customers need to print a support frame. In the future we may redesign a back cover according to customers’ needs. But that still depends on market feedback. In the front of the PLA parts on the enclosure 2. For the PLA parts on the enclosure: When printing PLA the fully-closed machine would always have a plug. The PLA height part will help with the heat dissipation. Not only that, without the parts, the enclosure glass will be crashed when the toolhead moves to the max height of the printer. Also, the HDMI screen can be installed on this part for a closer look. 3. For the cable chain: We have made some changes on the chain. One parts on drag chains now needs to be reprinted. I will send the stl to you! 4. For your injection mold suggestion, we still need comprehensive evaluation. But we will make sure it on records to see if it can happen in the future. Thank you so much for your thoughts on it! Good news is the length of the cable chain has been fixed for a while. The machine in later batches no longer has this problem, and printing parts is only a measure for the users who first received the machine. I’m so sorry that we didn’t keep you updated with this change. And I totally agree with you that the accessories page should include more information about the products&instruction of how to better update them. We really should have done it earlier. After hearing from you I immediately feedback to the team and they are already processing it. It may take some time to edit and I’m not sure if it will be uploaded before your video. But if any news I will let you know! And according to the team, this internal part will not be easily worn out, and the knobs and magnet holder is fixed with screws, therefore currently the part we ship out is still PLA. But of course, you can share your thoughts to the audience. If users want to print it in PETG or other filaments, we’d be happy to provide the stl to let people get to choose. In addition, the holder of the screen&enclosure is already under test and discussion. We do attach great importance of improving customers’ experience when they choose our products. And in the future we will keep trying our best to make sure this idea reflected in our products and services. Thank you so much for all of thoughts&feeling you shared above. Thank you for clarifying the confusion to me so that we can fix them. If there are any update on what you bring up I will let you know!

[@Valerie_is_doing_stuff]

lol the same day i make my mod. go figure. 3. For the cable chain: We have made some changes on the chain. One parts on drag chains now needs to be reprinted. I will send the stl to you!

[@Zolous.]

#2 seems like a hilarious non-response to me

[@Sovol]

Thank you so much for sharing your honest thoughts&feeling for SV08. Good news is the length of the cable chain has been fixed for a while. The machine in later batches no longer has this problem, At present our product page has updated the latest printing needs of enclosure according to your suggestion. We will keep refining the details of the page to help customers get more information about our products. We do attach great importance of improving customers’ experience when they choose our products. In the future we will keep trying our best to make sure this idea reflected in our products and services!

[@Beskar181]

It's nice that you're continuing to try to fix and improve thr SV08. This is much appreciated by the community.

[@247printing]

I tried to install the enclosure yesterday and my head hurts scratching. Came across all the same issues including cable lengths on drag chain. Plus the printed parts there broke. I also think that I don’t want to install that screen upgrade. Thanks for putting out that honest video 👍

[@iacopozucchetti5494]

What do u think about sovol sv08 ?

[@247printing]

@@iacopozucchetti5494 I like it, worth the money 👍

[@gMan1971]

Half Baked... that sums it up pretty well. Thanks for the review. Glad I didn't get the enclosure... cheap PLA printed parts...

[@eaman11]

You can use your smartphone / tablet as Klipper screen display, it's even wireless.

[@geauxracerx]

Right! I just don’t get why people use Klipper Screen at all, when you have way more control with a tablet or smartphone

[@logicalfundy]

Honestly the screen is one place where I wouldn't mind a 3D print as long as it's made using a well tuned printer. It's not structural, it's not going to be exposed to high heat, and I'm not a big fan of the snobbery over injection molded parts. The same piece on my Mk4 is also 3D printed, but you can barely tell by looking at it.

[@ModBotArmy]

I think you misunderstand. I am not against a printed screen holder. On a mk4 it’s expected it’s part of the prusa way. The SV08 is all aluminum and injection molded. At the very least it’s about setting proper expectations. If they are gonna print it then say it on the product page. That way the person ordering is aware of what they are getting. If the sv08 used a bunch of printed parts then it wouldn’t even be a thing.

[@Enjeenier]

Im still eagerly waiting for people to develop crazy mods and upgrades for this

[@3dpathfinder]

Teaching tech is supposed to be doing a tool changer for the sv08 using the sovol sv08 print heads

[@Duckferd]

Going to be interesting if at some point the number of mods gets you to the point where you might as well have built a V2.4 to begin with

[@downsyndromebear]

I did the bambu hotend mod and couldn't be happier. No worries about the nozzle falling apart and the ability to print cf materials on the cheap.

[@ss1gohan13]

But how's the flow?

[@downsyndromebear]

@@ss1gohan13 the same if not better.

[@liamosterhout6538]

Whats the logic behind that? if you could explain that that could alleviate some of my curiousity.

[@downsyndromebear]

@@liamosterhout6538 I can get nozzles from Amazon usually with same day delivery if I order early enough. When I did the mod, the sv08 nozzles were falling out when people were printing PETG and Sovol didn't have a hardened steel nozzle ready at that time. I like to move away from proprietary parts whenever possible. So in short, cheaper parts, faster delivery times and more nozzle options to choose from.

[@MusicManOntario]

Thank you for the updates on the sv08. I'm waiting for mine and appreciate the honest reviews

[@shi3ld90]

wow u showed mine SV08 at 4:09! now I printed a new version for the BTT touch screen, way better!

[@kilianlindlbauer8277]

The build height issue with the enclosure is probably inherited from the voron design its based. For standard size builds you miss about 50mm in z compared to xy, depending on how much you want to scratch the top lid. The sovop enclosure is at least glass, so the tube wont scratch it nearly, if at all, as quickly as the acrylic/polycarbonate panels

[@logicalfundy]

The decision to make the printed parts out of PLA is also a bit confusing - even PETG is a much better material, and is the same price as PLA. Prusa makes their machines in PETG, although they are starting to add more PC-CF in more recent revisions.

[@ziggystardog]

I bought a 3rd party screen and mounted it on the printable top hat which I modified to close the holes. The mount points of the Sovol screen fit this mounting point NOT the base. I left the stock screen in place. It’s nice to have the option of both interfaces.

[@reprinted3D]

Thanks for the video, Daniel. The timing is perfect as I had been contemplating the screen, but it looks like going with the BTT one will be the better option!

[@rarbiart]

having 3d printed parts on a 3d printer: nothing i would complain about!

[@Derek_S]

PLA is fine for the SV08 parts. It's only a partially sealed enclosure so apparently only gets to around 50 degrees C internally. I bought a Big Tree Tech 7 inch screen and mounted it in a PLA printed enclosure that can be mounted anywhere. I'm going to bolt it to the top hat, which I also printed out of PLA. I'm just about to fit everything tomorrow and the first job is the cable chain so it's good to know Sovol have already modified those parts. I had read that the original parts would work if you remove two links from the chain and had been expecting to need to do that. I'm very pleased with my SV08 so far. I have come across a couple of issues but they are fixable. The first issue is the auto filament change operation doesn't work very well. When unloading filament it always seems to leave some molten filament inside, which quickly solidifies and prevents loading of the new filament. I've found the answer is to remove the PTFE filament guide tube and to clear the pathway through the extruder from the top while it's hot using the cleaning wire provided with the original printer kit. The new filament can be then loaded easily. The second issue is the filament spool spindle is poorly positioned and by using bearings the spindle is so free spinning that the filament on a new spool can unwind leading to an excess of unwind filament that could easily jam if left unattended. So far, I've got around the problem by mounting the filament spool on the Ender 3 sitting next to the Sovol. The spindle on that doesn't have bearings so the filament is kept under the right amount of tension. I had some 4mm PTFE tubing delivered from Amazon earlier and am planning to run the filament from the spool through a closely aligned length of that to a simple clip on bracket mounted on the sensor where it enters the machine. I got the idea from my 7 year old Flashforge Creator Pro, which uses that method to route the filament from the spools mounted on the back of the machine and has always proved to be 100% reliable. If the spindle still runs too freely, I'll just have to redesign the spindle for a solid one that has no bearings. That's always worked fine on all my older machines but of course they were feeding filament more slowly.

[@JohnJones-oy3md]

It's almost like they hired someone on Fiverr to design these parts, but that person didn't have access to an actual SV08. Personally, in 2024 I just want a printer that prints. I don't want to dick around endlessly to get something that works like we did ten years ago.

[@Theprofessor1212]

Agreed.

[@TheJacklwilliams]

Bambu…. These other style printers appeal to engineers BECAUSE we dig futzing with such things.

[@JohnJones-oy3md]

@@TheJacklwilliams Fair enough. The journey is often as enjoyable as the destination.

[@Eric_In_SF]

Yes, because hiring on fiverr is the only way someone could possibly do something wrong. Kind of a dumb thing to say. There’s plenty of way to do something the wrong way.

[@JohnJones-oy3md]

@@Eric_In_SF Why so salty? I hope your day gets better.

[@Immolate62]

Honestly there is no reason to consider the SOVOL replacement screen. The BTT is cheaper and better and it works like a boss. I couldn't get my SV-08 to connect to my WiFi until Reddit suggested I install the BTT which I'd already bought, so I did and was able to immediately connect. This isn't like the P1 series from Bambu where you can ignore the crappy screen. I have yet to install my enclosure.

[@jenspaschmann7906]

I had initially ordered the HDMI Touch, but then canceled it. I think that was a good decision. I thought the enclosure was too expensive from the outset. Since I don't print ABS or ASA yet, and won't be printing in the foreseeable future, I don't need a heated build chamber. However, I do need a draft shield for large prints in PETG or PLA. That's why I simply stuck insulating foil around the printer. It works wonderfully. In contrast to the open printer, I no longer have any warping.

[@oleurgast730]

You can use FFC HDMI cables (about 50cm) to connect the display. Theese cables are very flat, you can fiddle them between the HDM port and the case, back into the case. There is an stl on printables for the BTT HDMI screen v1.2 without openings on the side for the cable, but routed from the inside of the printer. There is one free USB-Port inside the printer. So an USB to USB-C cable can be connected there. I recomend an angled USB-C connector. As FFC-cables are easaly damaged, I recommend to print a smal cover for the connector, avoiding to accidentally damaging it.

[@HopeThisWorks]

I uses Nadir's BTT 5in screen mod. I did cut some openings to run the cables though.

[@clb1024]

On thier website under the SV08 it does say with the enclosure the print volume is 330mm on Z. I feel your right on the injection molded parts and I'd pay $200 for the enclosure if it included those parts and $215 if it included the riser parts.

[@Armor3dprinting]

I ended up getting a BTT HDMI5 and NADIRs mount, but i just ordered a KTOUCH. I also made my own enclosure

[@unity3938]

Does anyone still use the on printer screens on klipper printers? I've always just had the web interface as a favorite on my phones browser. Paying $100 for a worse interface than the one in my pocket just seems silly to me.

[@therick0996]

I use mine all the time. Convenience factor. But yeah, it's not really necessary. Also e-stop being easily and quickly reachable

[@trugbilddrachen]

Same here. Use it all the time.

[@unity3938]

That's super interesting that folks are still using touch screens, I guess I'm the weird one lol.

[@jasonjennings6686]

I love all my screens. Use them a lot along with the web interface

[@BTom16]

My cable has the same problems, with the cable chain.

[@NessieKnows]

almost makes me want to just build a Voron 2.4 but since I havent built a full printer yet I am at a crossroads LOL.

[@TS_Mind_Swept]

Really don't know what's wrong with the screen mount being printed, like as if that's not everything we're making anyway..unfortunate about the case and screen mountn't tho..

[@geauxracerx]

4:05 any idea if that BTT screen still works if you migrate to Vanilla Mainsail without Klipper screen.

[@Service_John]

At 00:48 it looks like the PLA door corners are wrong (left and right) 😂

[@Guardian_Arias]

How thick are the sheets of metal? are they thin sheets folded to match the 4mm recess in the frame? or are they actually 4mm thick pieces of aluminum sheet metal? because I can buy enough sheet metal for all sides that's 4 mm thick and make the paneling part of the structure for about 120 usd from a local metal supplier.

[@PYROWORKSTV]

Honestly? Those Sovol Upgrades look cheap as fuck. Either copy Voron properly and do everything injection molded or don't do anything at all. Can't just mass produce a printer that's meant to be DIY'ed and then half ass it in the long run.

[@ronnyspanneveld8110]

And then there was an Bigtreetech K-TOUCH for 60$....

[@bozthescrewup410]

They should just send out the screen and the case file and reduce the price. Make it a project like the Bambu mouse.

[@LincolnWorld]

So few 3D printer companies put out "fully-baked" printers and accessories. Do brands care at all about developing brand loyalty? Putting out half-baked products creates the opposite of brand loyalty.

[@jon9947]

I highly recommend staying away from Nadirs mods. I am not saying his mods are bad, they are much better than I could do, but there is also FAR better out there. From the Bigtreetech screen to the riser and everything else in between including his unofficial enclosure, there is something else better out there! He just happens to have made a name in the sv08 modding community early on, and now every one keeps recommend his work. Again, none of it is bad, and its better than I could do! Take the screen for example, the one that Mommel made mostly hides the wires. Yes you have to still plug them into the sv08 on the side, but they run though the electronics bay to get there and you dont have a rats nest of cables hanging out the front. Nadirs enclosure you have to drill holes into the frame to have a working door, there is a half dozen other enclosures that mount the doors the same as the stock and dosnt require you to put holes in your sv08. Then again Nadirs seems to like putting new holes into his sv08, you have to add holes to use his screen mod too.

[@iacopozucchetti5494]

Do u have any github link/yt channel to one modder better then nadirs? I dont have sv08 but im looking what to do if ill buy it and i dont like nadirs mods too

[@jon9947]

@@iacopozucchetti5494 I mostly just searched Printables and Makerworld for the stuff I needed. I havnt really seen much of anyone talk about mods who were not Nadirs. Again, his work is good, its just anytime I went looking for a solution to a problem I found something better.

[@kimmotoivanen]

In a sense, it's funny to complain having 3D printed parts in customization kit... They could send only hardware and have you print the rest. Yes, from your choice of material, limited to PLA/PETG without the enclosure ;) I wonder, how expensive those plastic parts were, if they were injection molded. It makes no sense to tool injection molds before knowing the kits will sell to cover the cost + delay for tooling and injection. Start with 3D printed parts, evaluate based on demand.

[@theo4626]

This is like a reason why I went for a Creality K1C. After I used Voron, SuperRacer, Ender and CR6-SE for roughly four years. Yes, the K1C has its own problems but to be fair they are an easy fix. Buying and making upgrades needs to be done to make things work. We consumers need machines for consumers. Less haggle and more fun. If you wanna tinker please go ahead and do as u like. I do not blame anyone.

[@bruceyoung1343]

What did you mean the svo8 is open source? Is the printer diy?

[@Dutch929]

How does the screen itself function compared to the BTT screen?

[@bennetb01]

I had the same issues with the enclosure and was just as disapoonted

[@Critical_Zero]

I ordered the SV08 with the screen combo, was really disappointed with the screen. The case felt really cheap even for a 3d print...decided to design my own enclosure So I took it apart. Turns out the screen is a makerbase ips50 from the model number on the back. Thats a 39.99 screen retail, so sovol is charging 60 extra for the case and cables...really bad value. If able to do over, I would have just ordered a BTT 7in and made my own enclosure.

[@oldman1944]

So frustrating that "half baked" could be applied to nearly every 3d printer that gets released these days.

[@Speedgaming802]

cool!!

[@petsol]

I got little sad when you told you want them to injection mold a casing part. Why would someone who prints 3d parts want something non-mechanical to be injection molded? Printed in a better quality? Yes.

[@youtubehandlesux]

Monolith AWD on sv08 when

[@haraldlonn898]

Is this really the right way to develop a 3D printer. For me, who doesn't want to tinker, it's terrible.

[@KJMcLaws]

Half baked. It's only grace is the fact it would save 40 hours of work to do it yourself entirely from scratch.

[@g.s.3389]

I have an sv06+ and i was thinking of getting a SV08, but I think I will not, as a rule of thumb, never buy the first issue of a product unless it is very well thought.

[@Castdeath]

Did you run into the nozzle unscrewing issue some SV08s had?

[@Immolate62]

The nozzle doesn't screw. That's why there's an issue. I've run many spools of PETG through mine and haven't had that problem. Other problems? Yeah, no shortage of those.

[@arminth]

It's pushing the nozzle out! And yes. I had the issue. Destroyed the build plate. This is something that should be talked about.

[@MicahT-l7p]

Sovol is a 95% company. They dont finish anything.

[@jeffreyepiscopo]

They 3D printed the parts, putting their money where their mouth is! Kinda cool tbh. Yeah they should tell you in advance, but that’s cool. I wonder what printer they use

[@redkingrauri3769]

I do applaud printing companies trying to do more enclosed core xy systems, but if someone wants a Voron style printer with a larger build volume they should go for a Vivedino Troodon over the SV08 right now.

[@klaidasrunele]

If bro has some thoughts about something, it can't be good 😅

[@username9774]

the screen is very overpriced, you can get a tft35 spi btt screen for 15$

[@Duckferd]

I would say the HDMI screen. BTT's tft35 spi screen only works with BTT-Pi and CB.

[@jasonjennings6686]

That SPI screen is pretty trash though. I have it on my v0 and I hate it

[@simonnofisher4422]

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[@velban912]

Thx for review. Seems like a waste of time and energy

[@justinbouchard]

bought my first 3d printer a month ago i will never buy anything that would require so much fucking around before you can print something successfully. i have no idea who these old relic machines are for. prusa included.

[@simonnofisher4422]

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[@serdalo5035]

Just get yourself a Qidi enclosed printer 🤷🏽‍♀️