Are these the WORST Makeovers in Reality TV History? Ladette To Lady

[@MarcelWhy]

"we shall now transform you into spinster librarians"

[@Luxeria]

Very that!

[@ccdaly2561]

Hey, we librarians can be Glam! (But yeah, you're right)

[@Torsanist]

I'm literally a spinster librarian and life is glorious, what they are doing to these poor souls are much worse. They are breaking them down and turning them into voiceless victims of the patriarchy.

[@MarcelWhy]

@@Torsanist @ccdaly2561 apologies; my comment wasn't intended as a slight to librarians ❤

[@Torsanist]

@@MarcelWhy Oh, I didn't take it that way at all, no worries! I have actually benefitted greatly from people thinking librarians are calm and quiet bookworms and have no problem with the stereotype 😁

[@morganmightbeok...]

When Rachel said she was 22 I just about choked on my drink. I can’t believe how much they aged her with that haircut.

[@CandySphynx]

I think that inappropriate old man would have caused me to be eliminated because I would have obliterated him for behaving like that. How is this man supposed to be "high-class", it's beyond me. Class doesn't have anything to do with your social background, to me it has everything to do with the grace with which you treat others.

[@TheSecondOne123]

Or even that weird rich guy talking about "getting naughty." Knowing he's on TV. But yet the guys are still considered high class, born and raised. High-class society is a pharse. The older woman nailed it, knowing that these guys are predators and the women are easy prey.

[@CandySphynx]

@@TheSecondOne123 You are so right. Imagine what goes on behind closed doors if THAT'S what he's okay saying to camera. The invading of physical space really hit me harder, but I don't think that this was ok either.

[@misssunnydee]

Amen to that! Just like I hate it when people in higher positions expect to be bowed to. Respect needs to be earned and that goes hand in hand with class.

[@Babesinthewood97]

Yes!

[@tracyjane7724]

The male host and the "there might be some naughtiness" guy can say those things and still be considered high class because they are MEN! Women are expected to behave.

[@rosvokisu]

As a non-brit, EGGLESton hall sounds like the most stereotypical fake name for a british finishing school where you learn needlework and flower arranging. And it's completely hilarious

[@corinne_vintage]

Seeing those smug, frowning, frumpy, pearl clutching women look down their noses whilst judging these gals causes a visceral reaction in my corporeal being. 🙅‍♀

[@maddygullotta2551]

I get such a rage cringe. Like my body wants me to blip back intime and start scolding these women until they cry. Not to mention the show producers and director for even allowing this and funding it.

[@ChrystalVanDusseldorp]

Those "high-class" men were disgusting. I have a feeling they thought the ladettes would be easy to take advantage of. Gross. 🤢

[@Torsanist]

"These men would not survive an evening with me" I would pay to see you break them, it would be glorious!

[@larfor8235]

Imagine being called a failure by a grumpy weremole wearing a cardigan 🤡

[@happygoathorror]

“A grumpy weremole” - I am dead 😂😂😂😂😂

[@C.G.Hassack]

LOL weremole is my new fave word! So true btw

[@steffanixoom]

they really said "We've allowed a dirty old man to sexually harass you, now get out"

[@poolboyatvampiremansion]

As an alternative person who went to Catholic school, I can very much understand how they are feeling. Having your identity stripped is one of the most painful things to do to someone. I never thought that I'd be someone to have a mental breakdown when forced to change your hair but it's truly so sickening to do when you feel like you've finally found your identity

[@KingOfGaymes]

@@kewliopejones8830akes me think of Japanese schools.. it’s like their schools try so hard to make everyone be the exact same. And I’ve heard people say they’ve even made kids with lighter hair dye it darker so they “don’t stand out”.. Like that’s nuts. I feel like making every kid look the same in school can cause major identity issues..

[@Tardisntimbits]

I went to public school here in Canada, and I am also alternative. In middle school (grades 6 and 7 for this school before I had to switch), the guidance counselor basically ripped me apart, told me I was to blame for being beaten up nearly every damned day because I was "Too different" from the other students, and that I should conform and be more normal. -_- My Mum ended up having to pull me out of that school and demand the school board to put me in another, because everything escalated to the point where I got swarmed by 14 girls on the playground on my fourth day of grade seven, and the supervisor teachers just let it happen. They WATCHED and ignored my pleas for help. I guess the difference is, I had the choice to continue on as I was, I just had to pay the price. -_- lol Man, I really want things to be better for young alternative and nerdy kids now, I really do. They deserve better than what came before.

[@SewardWriter]

​@@TardisntimbitsThose kids were ASSHOLES. My G-d.

[@krazyworld6433]

​@Tardisntimbits thats terrible. I hope u took action against those teachers and got them in trouble

[@TheChgz]

I once dated a catholic guy who wanted me to dress in a summer dress for kink reasons. I was happy to try something that I knew would be arousing for him but the dress he had in mind was very preppy. I consider myself a goth. He wanted me to dress "normal". It felt heart breaking when I realised this guy I had been with for 10 years wanted me to change my whole identity because the whole time he didn't like my gothiness. You better believe it contributed to the end of our relationship

[@morgenzon69]

The worst part about dyeing her hair red/brown is that's a pigment that's impossible to get out if she wants to go back blonde...

[@yahyahyahuhuh]

You can tell the hairdresser was a bit useless as they didn't repigment the hair as it was A LOT lighter at end so it'll end up this dull washy colour with no dimension

[@maggiee639]

I think the worst part is that it looks awful on her skin tone but that is a close second 😅

[@maggiee639]

@@yahyahyahuhuhoh they absolutely did not fill the hair. That’s why it looks so shit

[@zeasea2519]

my god that entire thing about that one girl with the fabric aversions, food aversions etc made me SO UNCOMFORTABLE because i'm autistic and these feelings and the way she's being treated is just my entire life to this day and it's just the idea that we have made nearly no progress at all from 2006 to now in 17 whole years because this is still how i am treated on a day to day basis

[@TimeMovie93150]

autistic too and i related to her so much, especially the dinner scene. eating dinner at other people's houses has always been such an anxiety ridden task in my life, it's almost traumatic actually. i tend to avoid NTs after my diagnosis because they don't seem to accept differing communication and perspectives, they always want it their way

[@pigeon_person]

ADHD with sensory issues here and I completely relate! I'm really sorry your environment doesnt allow room for your sensory needs

[@aviolasympony]

Yeah I have ADHD and sensory issues so I hated going anywhere that wasn't familiar

[@lavenderoh]

Ditto

[@Hellohannah178]

I'm not diagnosed or anything but I have all of those aversions and reactionary experiences too, do they think we WANT to not be able to just eat any food?🙄

[@Plantsandtoyhorses]

That older guy definitely crossed a line with April at the poole table, with his gropy hands. That should never be thought of as her fault, drunk or not.

[@anufajemisin4348]

Couldn’t agree with you more.

[@rainbowlady1532]

That “gent” was an absolute pig

[@Werevampiwolf]

This is completely random, but I'm trans masc and one of the things I'm most dysphoric about is my chest. And after being a long time viewer, the voice of my dysphoria has been replaced with the sound clip of you saying "big tiddy lady" and it just makes me laugh every time. So thank you for that, Lux

[@LykaFoxbriar]

I mean this in the best possible way- but mens tits are sublime, whether they're transmac or just very well endowed pecs, and it's so good to find that someone who can help reframe the nasty voices those like us with dysphoria feel when we look at our chest (I'm a flavor of enby, learning to lean masc- its been a process)

[@The_Avery]

The lobster scene is just beyond cruel, and nefarious and frankly makes my stomach churn.

[@PuertoRicanqueen90]

Im not even a vegan or vegetarian and that scene was just too much! My goodness!

[@maggiee639]

I would boil a lobster at home and kill it in the same way and I found that gross

[@softhorror8779]

I hate these makeovers where they force people into hairstyles without letting them choose. Im very much of the mindset that hair grows back, ive shaved it completely, rocked different colors etc, but all because *i wanted it* like that. Hair is a key part of lots of peoples identity and its sad to see someone have a crisis because the producers decided that drama was more important than a person's happiness with their appearence

[@rebelwithacause666]

Exactly. I'm of the same opinion but even I've willingly given myself hair styles/colors that gave me a shell shock and made me feel like I lost my identity. I couldn't imagine having a random person just completely change my hair without my consent I'd be so sad and shaken.

[@pigeon_person]

Shaving my hair was one of the most liberating experiences I've had while experimenting with self-expression. Before that point, however, my hair had always been a safety blanket in a sense- it was my only point of self esteem at times, the only healthy thing I could control in an environment that was very oppressive. If that was taken from me without my consent I would have been absolutely crushed, and I completely agree- its awful to see someone be put through that for TV.

[@wolvie1618]

Same. I've been growing my hair out for over ten years, if someone cut it without my permission, I am going to kick up one hell of a storm. My hair is a part of who I am, I've wanted this my whole life, and having my hard work and dedication taken from me in a matter of minutes is unacceptable.

[@angie.2757]

agreed. I also hate that they always see someone with long hair and want to immediately cut it super short just because it is dramatic. It seems lazy like they cant figure out what else to do. I'd like to see them keep the same basic length and still figure out how to make it different.

[@Starbits7]

One of my friends who was tricked into getting a hair style she didn't want. She told the stylist she wanted a couple inches off and different colour. The stylist cut an extra 5 inches off and put a chemical straightener on instead of a different colour. It looked good but only for a month because then her hair started to grow and the roots were curly... it was bad. My friend was not happy about the bait and switch but she was used to it though as she said a lot of stylists claim to be good with curly hair but are terrible at it. I'm sure a lot of people would be really upset though if that happened.

[@sloancp3739]

As my (strong female) work mentor says, “You don’t need to be liked. You need to be respected.”

[@aaron4876]

This episode was gaslight central. The stylists messed up most of the girls’ hair and then tried to convince them they’re in the wrong for hating it. They also invalidated their feelings at every turn and refused to give them any real help. I feel so bad for them

[@demial4]

If I were them, I'd need some therapy after being on the show

[@KingOfGaymes]

5:51 I can’t get over this guy with the frozen face trying to judge his daughters “accent” like sir can you even move your lips 💀

[@Donice09]

I hate how this show tries to strip them from their identities, first with their hair which is always very integral to a woman’s identity then with the accent. I’m a scouser and I love hearing all the accents of different people around the UK, it gives flavour to the person, and is part of their cultural identity. These Tory loving hoi polloi seem to want everyone to be boring stepford wives and I’ve never understood the appeal.

[@tracyjane7724]

I'm Scottish and like you, I love all the different accents we have in the UK. I'm also very proud of my Scottish accent (as I'm sure you are of your Scouse accent) and I wouldn't let anyone change it.

[@SadWitch27]

Bit late to the party but I have to add that even when given by a professional in a controlled environment, "exposure therapy" rarely actually works - in many cases it actually makes the fear/sensitivity worse. What does actually work is systematic desensitisation - in simple terms, really gradually exposing someone to their fear so they can gradually learn to control their reaction to it. It's really unfair for anyone to be forced into any situation that contains something that is going to trigger a sensory sensitivity, and it will likely only make the situation worse (as this train wreck of a show seems to be great at demonstrating)

[@tohaovershell]

Exposing yourself super gradually works for me. I have awful noise sensitivity and I moved house because of it and I try to challenge myself when I feel ready to more stimulus but remind myself I can leave when I need. This has helped for my fear of driving too. Not staying in the house too long and avoiding it, super small steps.. I felt for her in that scene having aversions to certain noises. I’d have gone off too

[@Tardisntimbits]

I'm going to be honest, this is making me super uncomfortable. I spent DECADES pretending I liked the dresses I was put in, letting people dress me up and force me into the girly cookie cutter, and I hated it. I finally attended a wedding as a bridesmaid (I'm friends with both the bride and groom though), and I finally got up the courage to ask if I could wear a suit instead of a dress, and they said yes. I'd been experimenting wearing suits for years through cosplay, and it felt good to finally bring it to reality. Sometimes you CAN'T put the "lady" into a woman, sometimes you're just hurting the person you're trying to "correct". =< I really feel for the one girl, because if someone forced such a drastic change on me to fit THEIR image, it would make me sick to my stomach. Ugh. I really do not like this show...why can't non-traditional ladies just be left to their own devices. The fact that the parents (and all these others involved in the show) are like "yup, they need to be molded to fit this vision of what a woman should be....gross.

[@renb6133]

I’m really glad you found your own personal style & your friends were really supportive of it. There’s really no “right” about what you should wear. Rather, it should reflect who you are & allow you to be comfortable in your own skin. I really don’t understand why people feel the need to put others in narrow, little boxes. If you truly love someone, you should support them to best feel free & themselves. I’m so glad you had support in your journey to be your authentic self. Go, you! 💕

[@lavenderoh]

I had the opposite journey. I've been big my whole life so when I was younger I felt like I couldn't dress very feminine because society would think it was like "lipstick on a pig". I convinced myself I hated dresses, overly feminine clothing, makeup, etc. Now I'm in my mid 30s and happily married to a man that tells me I'm beautiful, and I feel it! I've started a light make-up routine and bought a bunch of dresses. I haven't worn anything but dresses for months and I've felt so good! And it really is true when you feel good and confident, others will agree. I've gotten compliments every single time I've gone out, which is only on weekends but still! I think it's really hard to get to know yourself and your true identity if you fall outside of the norm in your society for any reason.

[@Tardisntimbits]

@@lavenderoh Keep living your best life! I'm glad you've found a person that appreciates you!!

[@skylerover8643]

One thing this show is inadvertently showing is that high society people are just like everyday people and that's actually the people "below stairs" who hold these insane opinions, people like the teachers and judges, but then don't live up to them themselves. The lord was loving talking career with the gas fitter lady but the chaperone was being in my opinion impolite to the other guests herself by going after Jessica during dinner. So really this show is these people from below stairs trying to take people from "outside" and make them into their image of someone above stairs

[@ajrockne307]

I absolutely agree. The teachers and judges are the staff of the lords and ladies. They come across as bitter and angry because they can’t cross the great divide. And as for the old man at the billiards table - disgusting! Those men believe they can get away with it because they can and have for centuries. Ladies are just supposed to put up with it, laugh it off, and gracefully get away. DOWN WITH THE PATRIARCHY! These women are nothing to those men.

[@mothturtle7897]

Most British aristocrats aren't that rich. Don't get me wrong, they're still very rich in terms of property and assets but they're often quite cash poor because old houses are major money sinks and tend to be surprisingly frugal.

[@NiasiNoir]

The biggest thing is that if this was filmed in 2005/6, sensitivity to neurodivergence was not a thing. This was still very much the time where it was more pushed to "force" people to get over it and act like everyone else versus finding ways to cope healthily. For example, some treatments still included electroshock therapy, and behavior correction via punishment. Even though around the 80s/90s they started seeing better reception to positive reinforcement, a lot of "experts" and families chose to keep using corporal punishment, "exposure therapy" (done in the most incorrect way), and a lot still refused or accept that their child actually had some form of disability/divergence and wanted to generalize it all as the child choosing to be difficult. So all in all I am not at all surprised that they were trying to shame Jessica more than try to help her cope.

[@NickFinn1985]

I never thought I'd say this but the judges on Ladette To Lady make Janice Dickinson, Trinny and Susannah look nice in comparison.

[@Luxeria]

It’s like each show gets worse and worse 😂

[@NickFinn1985]

@@Luxeria 😂 I definitely agree with you about that Luxeria

[@MorningStar426]

They aged so many of those girls with those hairstyles. They gave them granny haircuts when most of them are under 30. They don't look posh and high class, they just look older and out of style.

[@BethNote]

I was really shocked they sent April home because she was pretty good but it's obvious it's not about whose excelling it's about tormenting those they perceive as lesser than them. On a lighter note the Headmistress' fondness for Jessica (?) Reminds me of when a Grandparent dotes on a "naughty" Grandkid much to the chagrin of the kid's parents lmao. Jessica isn't naughty tho she's just a neurodivergent queen

[@kodamaspirit9298]

That "you've gone flat" comment is giving me ANTM flashbacks, in the spirit of "do as you're told", followed by "where's the personality? We still don't know you" (after berating a girl for existing wrong. She then makes efforts to follow instructions and is still found to be existing wrong).

[@anufajemisin4348]

Yes well that’s gaslighting at its finest I’m afraid.

[@SarahMacDani]

I think this really speaks to how little certain sensitivities were given at this time history. And it wasn't that long ago. I personally wasn't diagnosed ADHD until this year and I'm 32! Back when this show was on people did not think of these things, they just decided that the person was being difficult or rude. There was no consideration given for anything else and it's so sad for the person in the situation.

[@Lady-Jane1]

I was taught that to call out someone elses behaviour publicly is demonstrating a lack of grace and class; that is exactly what the teacher was doing, in front of the hostess no less, to the poor girl who was struggling with eating. I recall being a stranger living with a family in another country and struggling with nerves for the first few days and not being able to eat. Everyone pretended not to notice and my hostess had a quiet word when noone else was home and helped me through it, now that was a classy lady living in her grace.

[@terribleghoster7006]

As an autistic person, I 100% feel every struggle Jessica has regarding to textures and things she's used to have, like her hair. I'm not saying she is autistic aswell, nobody has to be to struggle with textures. But the ways she's treated because of it hits very close to home, just the absolute ignorance and not even hearing her out fully is such a common autism experience. I hope she's doing better and knows it's fine to struggle with certain things.

[@Angelina14799]

As a curl girl myself, I can say flat out that razors are not allowed near the coif! That creates frizz in curly hair.

[@laurenochs6120]

"I believe you, but millions won't" is something I can relate to hearing many times growing up. I was diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder the day before I turned 24, so I know how hurtful that phrase can be. I relate so much to Jessica in this scene and her frustrations that it almost brings me to tears. These instructors have no idea the trauma they are causing.

[@ryanwinter1562]

Imagine packing a suitcase and, upon arrival, being told you aren't allowed to unpack your own clothes? Especially since I want my things in a specific order, so the "servant" would end up doing all of that hard work for nothing. Every episode of this I watch alongside Lux and little Biscuits makes me so happy I am not part of this group of society

[@wolvie1618]

Goodness I would feel so uncomfortable. I was not raised to let people wait on me, so I'd be trying to help them and possibly get them in trouble.

[@The_Rat_Dude]

As a punk gremlin man, id probably make those judges combust on the spot 💀 apparently being a lady is being extremely judgemental and putting down other people for harmless things out of their control

[@katiek6393]

As someone with very strong food aversion issues, I really feel for her in this episode. When I eat certain things it causes a gag reflex. It's not just 'oh no I don't want this', it's if I try to eat it I will definitely gag, maybe worse. And I am all too familiar with being put on the spot like that at a table full of people going 'oh just try it'. Being very shy as well, those situations would usually reduce me to tears, or close to. That's what finally got some family members to stop. I still have one relative who brings it up when we're all eating together, saying something like 'oh right (I) wouldn't like that, too much flavor'. And it's just...you know why I don't like it, you know how embarrassed it makes me, why bring it up? This episode is bringing up some feelings I didn't expect...

[@TimeMovie93150]

this has been my experience too as an autistic with food aversions and sensory issues, and it is traumatic. you are NOT alone in this

[@peachxtaehyung]

Same! I have textural issues and also swallowing problems! So my diet is very limited

[@ilanarhian]

Yep! Same here too!

[@ivonne58270]

same here as an AuDHDer! I will literally gag at something because of the texture (tomatoes being one. mushrooms being another 🤢) And to complicate things further, my food aversions also change randomly where a food that I was hyper fixated on becomes one of my food aversions.

[@Foxtail529withluck]

I work as a server and had to pass hors d'oeuvres at a debutante's ball. This was in the south, so I imagine the rules of etiquette are a bit different but... I think the judges would have a heart attack if they saw how the debutantes behaved at that event. The girls were WASTED, throwing up, and breaking wine glasses all over their dance floor. And none of them told us there was broken glass that needed to be swept up until someone cut their foot. "High-class" people very rarely are classy.

[@jademorgan999]

The old lady with "feathering" of her hair is likely under a hood dryer once a week. It's likely a rollerset with plenty of product to hold it that vertical.

[@rebeca2330]

As a person who can't even watch shows or movies where animals die and who always feels a pang of guilt when killing a bug, I was PISSED at the "joke" that the ladettes would have to kill lobsters. I would have been in tears as well. For people highly sensitive to animal harm, this "joke" is like telling the average person that they have to kill a pet, and laughing when they get upset.

[@Awatsonillustration]

My ex-boyfriend came from a wealthy, upper-class family. I, however, am proudly working class. Anyway I started taking etiquette classes because I didn't want to be seen as "the poor person". My point being is these classes are generally quite welcoming and in my experience they understand its not easy to learn immediately. This show is very loosely what it says it is

[@FetchItFred]

Imagine yelling and insulting someone and then follow up with the phrase "don't take it personally". Absolutely not. Disgusting behaviour.

[@Kellynelspethplanteen]

Wow. As someone with sensory issues, I felt SO SEEN when you pointed out Jessica's sensory issues. Even my own mother sees it as being overly dramatic (and I'm 36) Your compassion is life changing.

[@BBALFONSECAPONE]

My friend and I got her hair done at the beauty school in our early 20s and they gave her this hair cut. I had to go in and tell them how upset they made her because she wanted a medium length cut and they gave her a dutch boy. Poor girl was devastated 😢

[@maggiee639]

Wtf im in beauty school now and I don’t get how this could EVER happen

[@maggiee639]

@@kewliopejones8830 that sounds traumatic, obviously we have required cuts but if we can’t get a model they don’t force us to cut anyone! Thankfully we are encouraged to use our best judgement and our teachers coach us through every cut and color.

[@emilydavis670]

11:50 gave me chills and flashbacks to my verbally abusive grandmother telling me similar things. Disgusting.

[@lilme7052]

The anger felt when people tell you to eat and you can't eat is unreal. Like them saying it five times is going to change my mind?!

[@Cove_Blue]

I didn't know I was autistic (and possibly have ADHD) till my 30's and 100% used alcohol to get through my 20's. It was not a good idea. I wasn't an alcoholic but I wanted to be social and it was the only way I could. I wish I had been diagnosed or figured it out much sooner because I have regrets but I'm forgiving of myself because I am a totally different person now that I understand myself better.

[@ivonne58270]

absolutely the same! I wasn't diagnosed until a couple of years ago (ADHD and Autism) and I used alcohol to be able to cope with being out in a crowd or in places that were sensory overload. I stopped drinking several years ago and have had to re-learn how to be in these spaces (also the pandemic didn't help my social anxiety!)

[@Cove_Blue]

@ivonnequiroz58 Yeah I haven't drank in years but I also started having to self isolate a couple of years before the pandemic because I have an AI disorder and get sick literally any time I'm around people. The pandemic was kind of easy for me cuz I already had a couple years of practice but it was the first time I didn't get sick when I left the house because everyone was masking. I miss that part of it tbh.

[@choperchic24]

The audacity of these “upper class” teachers forcing these girls to pay fines on a reality show. 😮

[@bposytyv6282]

ladette to lady never dissapoints....to well..dissapoint....lmao Luxeria on the other hand always slays and does her magic

[@Luxeria]

It’s such a bizarre show, and Thankyou 😂

[@ragdollrose2687]

As a fellow neurodivergent, this party would have me crying by the end of the evening. So much nonsensical muchness for absolutely no reason while people in power are being gross, my brain couldn't cope for long 😵‍💫

[@gigitastic90]

Thank you so much for speaking up for Jessica. As someone who struggles with almost all the stuff discussed in the episode like certain fabrics, things around my neck, and struggling to eat new foods it can be really difficult. I often worry especially about trying new foods I have had several people tell me I was being rude or try to push me to "just try it!" . I dont know how to explain to them that it's not that I dont want to try new things it's that I physically cant make myself put it in my mouth. I dont want to dislike most "adult foods". I would love to eat fish for example or mushrooms I just can't force myself to. I doesnt help that I have a really bad gag reflex and can and will vomit. There's nothing wrong with saying no. Its nothing personal or against the host it's just not everyone can handle everything and thats ok. People should be more forgiving I don't know why we can't leave other adults alone isn't the point of being a good host to make your guests comfortable?

[@kdkorz10211]

I feel you. I have a very strong negative reaction to certain food textures (mainly mushy and certain mixed textures) and am very sensitive to bitterness. The wrong food makes me literally gag uncontrollably and is such a viscerally awful experience. I’m *extremely* reticent about trying new foods because of just how overwhelmingly awful it can be. I wish there was more awareness and acceptance of food sensitivities as a legitimate issue, and one that certainly is *not* helped at all by being pressured into eating things!

[@PokhrajRoy.]

I remember this video where Monét X Change and The Vivienne did an Etiquette class and I loved seeing the instructor getting more and more perplexed.

[@NickFinn1985]

She was speechless when The Vivienne responded to how to excuse yourself to "powder your nose" 😂

[@PokhrajRoy.]

Even the most ‘lady’ of ladies can be a ladette at heart like that time Lady Diana and Fergie dressed up as policewomen for the latter’s hen Party and got arrested.

[@Exsugarbabe1]

Fergie was definitely a laddette and didn't Di have loads of affairs?

[@zekaay]

that poor girl, and that rust colour is the worst dye ever, I would definitely not classify that reddish colour as elegant xO it is bad, oh it is baaaad.

[@paedreau1]

That woman does not look 22! When she gets sad about it and they send her to a 70 year old lady who LOVES it - well, that's not helpful. Find a 22 year old that can honestly say "I LOVE IT"! Just awful.

[@Juxsu]

SPUH - GEH - TEE I was actually at a wedding yesterday (against my will) and had my hair just a tiny bit moist still from the shower while walking next to sneaky but huge fans that were hidden between bushes. The bloody fans were so strong that, somehow, these few seconds were enough to make my hair look like I styled it this way (41:43) for the rest of the night. Was heart broken.

[@Woodlessss]

This is my favourite series that you have covered on the channel so far. It is shocking how much bigotry and classism had been squashed into an hour last episode and I’m sure this one will be the same!

[@capucnechaussonpassion14]

It seems that it his going further into the sexism. Telling them how to "get and keep" a man while sllut shaming them... How detrimental to them and the audience

[@maddygullotta2551]

@@capucnechaussonpassion14 And also throwing them to the wolves with these rich upperclass men who clearly have no respect for them either and are also just talking about them behind their back. I think this show out of all the 2000s reality tv shows Luxeria has watched this is the biggest example of the everyday classism, sexism of this time (and in alot of respects aswell) along with abusive and disrecpective behavious towards women and I honestly think theyd behave like this off of the TV show aswell.

[@Woodlessss]

@@capucnechaussonpassion14 when I made this comment i hadn’t watched more than five minutes of the video, and certainly with this episode it has leaned for more into sexism. Either way, disgusting!

[@jodyfieldhouse6420]

I remember watching this when this when it first came out, I watched it with my dad who said that Rosemary was trying too hard to me the “nasty Simon cowell judge”

[@matchbox420.]

How did this show get multiple versions of my mother to be the hosts?

[@hushhush85]

To your former German teacher: Sie haben komplett Ihren Beruf verfehlt. 6, setzen! Ich hoffe, Sie haben in Ihrem Privatleben weniger Schaden angerichtet.

[@gabbydoo3232]

hairdresser to answer your question- it can be done with blowdrying with overdirection however most people i’ve seen and through my apprenticeship learned it’s a LOT easier to do with an iron- and it stays a hell of a lot longer

[@salemstrange2091]

51:35 having autism and being adversed to most “posh” foods it’s really hard to sit there and not eat anything because you think everyone is looking at you, it sucks

[@Rosanna-]

Hey Lux, ready for some internalized misogyny gout 😁💜 have a great Thursday

[@PanelHopper]

When the party moved into the Billards room, I felt like building a giant Neon “Yikes!” Sign in my garden, just for that moment.

[@chloeywithaY]

I feel for Jessica. I would not last a day in high society. I'm autistic and my biggest sensory issue is food and texture. I think she did far better than I would have in those situations.

[@cannibalquinn]

can't wait to get unhealthily angered over this show hahaha

[@Luxeria]

Honestly same 😂😂😂

[@Etsuk0]

This all feels like an exceedingly elaborate scheme to mold the "ladettes" into the 'perfect ladies' for those very specific men who are more than likely related to the show runners or mentors because they are struggling to find women who exactly fit the women they want and their ...how to phrase.... "old-school persuasions of thinking and home expectations" (Edited spelling because fat fingers lol)

[@pot_noodle]

This series is wild! You and Biscuit are both looking stunning as always!

[@Luxeria]

Thankyou lovely!

[@cassandral.5840]

What a bunch of nonsense. It all screams extreme insecurities of people "in power" playing make believe and getting outragged when others dont partake. Luxeria im GAGGED at this entire series!

[@ox0cherrybomb0xo]

I need someone to look at me the way Biscuit lovingly gazes at Lux

[@pinheadlarry2921]

as a masculine woman who desperately wants to be feminine it makes me sad that this is what people think it takes to learn to be feminine. so extreme, so insulting.

[@arualblues_zero]

That nervous laughter when that disgustingly inappropriate old man behaved like a total pig brought me back to some dark memories. We like to believe that "oh if it had been me I would have..." but the truth is sometimes you just feel trapped in the situation and you feel like you have no power.

[@litaylor]

I hate women that tells other women that they are cheap if they’re happy in their sexuality. Be happy in your sexuality and do not let anyone tell you you’re cheap and wrong.

[@Redtinmug]

What you said Luxeria about wanting to see the opposite of Ladette to Lady where rich girls learn to go to Wetherspoons- that show does pretty much exist, it's called Peckham Finishing School. I think it was a BBC production from several years ago.

[@sarahwithstars]

This woman is teaching these ladies an important lesson: that male attention does not satisfy a need to feel valued. She could have so easily avoided the use of the term 'cheap' and instead said anything about valuing themselves higher....but her use of that term actually put up a barrier between her and the ladies when this entire discussion could have been mutually beneficial. The girls might have come away realising that they don't feel valued in other areas of their life and she might have had some useful insight into the mentalities of these binge drinking women that she is clearly struggling to relate to.

[@sorchayoung8867]

oh as someone with adhd and autism, jessica reminds me of how i felt i had to meet certain standards and expectations, especially when they made me extremely uncomfortable. there is a sense of sexism to it too, where girls are expected to uphold these standards so heavily that the only way to cope is to repress and mask everything.

[@spiritus_iris]

All these teachers will never see ladies in the girls even if they'll learn all etiquette in the world. They always will be bad enough. I don't like all this "ladette" behaviour as a nerdy person but I feel bad for the girls. I needed to go to school in the nearest town and I was considered a stupid villager just because I was a "farm girl" from a village, despite the fact I was a top student in my class. Good for me that my classmates were way better than teachers so I'm glad to see that the girls in the show support each other as well.

[@rubymilne6651]

The whole sexual discussion thing sounded very “you can’t do that or dress like that or say that because you will distract the man!!! How dare you!!!!”

[@GamerGal30]

This episode was strange, the girls in a way were being pimped out to these men. How is that seen as “high class”, like it felt weird to watch.

[@myishenhaines1706]

I am autistic with food texture aversions and also sometimes the sight of some foods. I’ve been ridiculed for that all of my life. I hate it. It’s not okay. I will literally gag. I also have disordered eating, IBS and food trauma/body issues. It’s just not easy for me.

[@xHalleyHeroine]

When the ladies go to one of these fancy dinners, do you think they are allowed to avoid alcohol entirely? Like would they be allowed to drink water the entire time or would that be frowned upon because they are participating in all the norms of a fancy dinner party? Because for some people the only way to not end up wasted is to not drink at all.

[@elaexplorer]

Merchant Banker sounds very Dickensian. Like something people did before the advent of electric lights.

[@thebadpoet]

I wonder if that rather unfortunate pale green dress was literally the only one which was long enough for that delightful woman. I’m two inches shorter than she is and formal dress shopping was always a nightmare. I’ve been to two black tie weddings and made my own dress for both.

[@ConnorAdventure]

I have social anxiety and it gives me a stomach ache and makes me nauseous. So eating around others can be a tear inducing experience because every bite I have to keep myself from throwing up

[@Kvr_stabby]

I will never ever tire watching Trinny walking into that door 😂😂😂

[@nathryl03]

How is it possible that basically torturing someone (the one who doesn't do meat) with a practical prank was ever acceptable. I don't have a problem eating meat, but even I wouldn't kill a lobster, or watch someone do it. And if someone tried to force me to do either, I would have many unsavory things to say. Edited to add: How DARE anybody try to force anyone else to eat something. If I don't want to eat something, I will not eat it, and if anybody tries to force me I'll throat punch them. I am so extremely angry with this episode, to the point of feeling nauseous. I can't believe this was ever allowed on TV.

[@MagentaDinosaurs]

Same Lux, I'm AuDHD and I'm an absolute goblin if I have too many drinks 😅

[@LibraInSeattle]

The food aversion situation was so difficult to watch. My daughter has a food aversion. She’s 21 now and after years of treatment with an occupational therapist, RD, and LMHC she is doing better. She still has rituals, meaning she eats the same breakfast every day, the same lunch and the same dinner. She may rotate her dinners between chicken and turkey being her protein. She recently tried salmon and liked it so she added that. Every time she tries something and doesn’t gag immediately it’s a win. She still won’t touch anything with sauce. When she was 8 months old she had a feeding tube. So, this has been a lifelong journey for her. I don’t know too many people who have heard of food aversion, so I was really surprised when Luxeria mentioned it. I had been thinking the exact same thing about Rachel when she described how it felt to eat something she had never tried before, she said she gags. That’s similar to what happens when my daughter eats something that has a funky (strong , spicy or bitter) taste or texture. People would always say “she’s too picky, why do you cater to her like this?” Or my favorite “She will outgrow this.” It’s a medical condition not a pair of jeans!

[@misssunnydee]

I'm so sorry to hear your daughter has been fighting this battle. Mental health issues (or anything related to autism) are rarely taken seriously nor understood, even nowadays when there's so much more information out. Unfortunately, even when they dò have info, most people aren't as empathic as needed. I'm happy to hear she's been able to add an extra protein. You must worry about her physical health too with this. But any improvement is amazing. It must be so hard for her to be with friends, extended family, and colleagues when there's food (lunch, dinner) around. I can only hope she'll keep improving, or otherwise will get the understanding she deserves. I have a wide array of food sensitivities, and my parents often forced me to eat it, thinking I was being picky and whiny. Despite the fact an internist had told them I most likely had at least IBS, and to prevent certain foods. About 25 years ago I got definitive diagnoses that explained a few things (related to stomach, bowel and hormones), and I've been on a strict diet ever since. However, even now, at a luncheon (I'm a few weeks away from becoming 46yo), my mom had the audacity to say "Hmmmpf, you're not eating thàt now either? When did that start? What DO you still eat?" (When pushing my beets and most of the onion aside on my plate). Seriously? I've been on that diet for 25-frigging-years! So, let me just say that you're a wonderful mother for supporting your daughter in this way.

[@PestoPasta666]

What personally annoyed me the most was especially the speech classes, the girls go through all these hoops for the men to... not be held up to the same standard? which isn't really a surprise is it

[@digger420]

Imho, the judges were upset with how the older "gentleman" was fawning over April, and she was out, no matter how well she did. Also, that dress was perfect. Classic, and sexy, glamourous and NIPPLES!! No way could those old birds let that one slide 😘😆

[@esmeraldagreengate4354]

Naughtiness after dark in my subtitles was nutiness after dark. Make of that what you will. 😉🤣

[@stephutech]

"We will move through this topic as fast as the fastest person in the room" as someone who needed extra thinking time in the classroom and during tests, I hate that so much!

[@kdkorz10211]

Honestly, as someone who was always one of the fastest learners in the room, I also absolutely hate that. One, that’s not teaching and two, *everybody* benefits by taking the time to answer questions and make sure everybody is on the same page.

[@Itri_Vega]

Ignoring the fact that I am a trans man, I would have been kicked off the show the moment that old man got grabby with the lady at the pool table, at the latest. Disgusting. Part of my neurodivergence is an intense sense for injustice and another is hating non consensual touch to such a degree it feels like burning ants crawling over my scalp. I will speak up and I will end up being labelled the asshole for it. This show really brings back bad memories of expectations I grew up with, even though they had nothing to do with high society and everything with my mom projecting her insecurities on everyone around her, especially me. I heard her reference exposure therapy many, many times to try and get me to overcome my aversions to touch or any situation that felt out of my control. All it did was to cause an even stronger need for control, hyper independence and a very strong defiance against unreasonable demands.

[@elaexplorer]

It sounded like they were saying they did her hair like that as some sort of revenge/punishment for being a handful.

[@tamarabuxton2516]

21:38 "lie back and think of England"🤟😂🇨🇦

[@rae7864]

Crazy.. the blonde one April had the most BEAUTIFUL dress at the party, didn't act out at ALL, her hair style from the makeover was gorgeous and classy, and she overall did a good job.. no idea why they sent her home lol. Weird.

[@salhooper]

This series is so interesting on many levels as a non binary person. When they say the word ‘lady’ it makes me feel ill! That is the number 1 word that I HATE to be called 😂 I used to be an extremely fussy eater, I wouldn’t eat any vegetables and when I went on holiday as a kid, I ate nothing but chips the whole time. I’ve got better as I got older (I’m 29 now) and don’t like very few things, but there are certain things I can’t eat otherwise I will be sick😂 Having someone force you to try things is never the answer, I had to try things alone without pressure, and in my own time. I have Autism & ADHD but it never never crossed my mind that was a reason until I realised I was neurodivergent at 27/28. Also, I cannot contain my hatred for Rosemary when she said ‘Just don’t open your mouths yet’. She is on another level.

[@felvkitties8]

I can't imagine having your boss basically say he hates your accent and wants you to change the way you speak. We learn language from the people around us like our family and community that's why accents exist! That's just awful

[@Deathwish1408]

I get extra chatty after taking my adhd meds, I think it’s because my brain is relaxed for a change so the bull**** can flow freely 😂😂😂 love you Lux ❤️💕

[@josiahlewis5838]

I think biscuit can have is own makeover advice show he's 100% more qualified than these people on how to live; lick necklaces and being an angel

[@Kalani_Saiko]

People tend to forget that the best hairstyle for you depends on your body type and face shape. What they did to the 22 year old (forgiver me, I forget her name) with the granny cut was clearly intentionally horrible.