Are Turkish, Korean, Mongolian & Japanese Related? (The Altaic Languages)

[@ThePolyglotFiles]

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[@EnderEraydn]

You are provoking us...

[@amirtemurturk6634]

Umit, exactly my thoughts, nowadays japanese are pathetic.

[@EnderEraydn]

And all the inventions you mentioned above, you will always find a Turkish scientist in any science team who worked for these inventions...

[@EnderEraydn]

Amir... abartmanın alemi yok... sakin ol biraz...

[@j-nscmember6363]

lol

[@akarchive0508]

I'm a native Korean speaker and grew up in a multinational environment. I am aware that Korean and Turkish not only shares similar vocab, but also similar phonology and way of "thinking" or structuring words. It's very interesting, and strangely I find it magically(?) easier to "connect" with Turkish or Japanese people.

[@ThePolyglotFiles]

Hmm. That's pretty interesting :) Thanks for sharing.

[@jingukkorean236]

but to add, the "similar vocabulary" is mostly of chinese loanword origin. native korean words are not related to turkic or "altaic" at all. phonology is not same but there exist some similariteis, but also with dravidian. there are about 500 words with same meaning and same spoken in old-korean and old dravidian. one linguist said that the similarities between dravidian and korean are stronger than to any "altaic" language. but he also said this do not proove a relation. genetically korean is not related to dravidian or altaic. korean classifiaction officially is isolated language

[@BatuHanAltai]

Kara saro no! Japanese and korean is altaic! Many Linguistics saying japanese and korean is altaic! Research it.

[@BatuHanAltai]

이준성 koreans are not a altaic people! But korean language is altaic! Many Linguistics saying that.

[@이준성-y8m]

that was past you ignorant turk. today the altaic theory is seen as discredited. korean is isolated japanese is isolated or malayo-polynesian related or austric related. so hard to understand?

[@xiumilla]

As a native Turkish speaker who is learning Korean, i can confirm that learning Korean is seriously a lot easier than learning English or German. We have been forced to learn English and German at schools for years and i learned 0 things there. I learned English on the net with speaking with people. But i can say that even with watching kdramas you can clearly hear the grammar is 80% the same with Turkish. It feels like its the same language but with different words and sounds. Its so fun to learn it. And most importantly i want to say that in Korean alphabet theres a letter "ㅋ" which is reading as "K". This letter's look is exacly the same with Orkhun (Göktürk) Alphabet's "𐰚" which is also reading as "K". Also in Korean theres this letter "ㅏ" which is reading as "A(h)" and in Orkhun its "𐰀". Its so interesting that modern Korean letters looks like the old ancient Turk letters.

[@sinemyldz5040]

Aslında ülke olarak İngilizce öğrenmeyi beceremeyişimizin ana sebebi öğretmenlerin inatla yanlış yöntemle (gramer öğretimi ve çeviri yaptırarak) öğretmenye çalışması. Dil konuşarak öğrenilen bir şey, dil bilgisi kurallarını ezberleyerek değil. Bu eleştiriyi bir İngilizce öğretmenliği son sınıf öğrencisi olarak yapıyorum. Malesef ki sistem/müfredat hatası da değil, müfredat öğretmenlere sınıf içerisinde öğrencilere İngilizce konuşturarak öğretin diyor. Fakat öğretmenlerin çoğu kendileri öğrendikleri eski usul kolayına geldiği için aynı hamam, aynı tas

[@bleee1]

Koreans came down from Central Asia in ancient times. If you look at the remains of the tombs of nobles in the Silla era in Korea, they have genes close to those of modern Uzbeks or Uighurs. Dangun in Korea used to be Dangole Was called(Tengri).

[@bleee1]

Silla(Turk), Goguryeo(Mongol)

[@xiumilla]

@@bleee1 yeah i know that but unfortunately almost all koreans deny that we were connected centuries ago

[@bleee1]

@@xiumilla More and more people know this . somedaykorean will join altaic group

[@aukafka8500]

I am a Mongolian myself and currently studying Japanese. The grammar is eerily similar, in the majority of the cases, the Mongolian language has corresponding grammatical structures to Japanese. Also, Turkish and Korean share the same "logic" in how we speak.

[@shknjyaoigod427]

Ima mongolian too :)

[@roufamagga4453]

Do you know the exact version of this music composed of the lyrics in the Orkhon Inscriptions? I could not find any. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmK3en5rlpZke5o

[@jkim76]

I know for fact that Korean and Japanese languages are very similar. And when I was in elementary school, I was taught that Korean language was part of Altaic language group.

[@yingqin7256]

@yusuf kocaman Chinese and English are Subject-Verb-Object,so, Chinese and English belong to one group?

[@memeolski]

mongolia has only 2 miloin pupolation and its first time i see a mongol in internet and i need to ask you , why mongols still use 32 bit version of windows 7 i understand its cold there and not much economic country but why 32 bit:|

[@erenakca7022]

I am from Turkey. My mother tongue is Turkish (Oghuz Turkish) . And I also speak English and Japanese. I can honestly say Japanese is not hard to learn to me, it's because the phonetic is %80 the same! And structure of the language is very similar. For example when I speak English, I have to think in English ; but I can think Turkish when I speak Japanese, only translate the words and be careful about the main rules... If Japanese is written in Latin alphabet.. it will be even easier.

[@EnderEraydn]

If Japanese is written in European Alphabet... just like the way Turkish language is... Would it be easier for a Turkish person to learn it?...

[@steros1068]

Ender Eraydın the only difference will be that you dont need too learn the letters anymore.

[@09kn09]

Umm that are not letters, they use characters derived from Chinese system, a heavy load to memorize ^ ^''. Koreans too.

[@09kn09]

yok, modern Korece için Çince karakterleri kullanıyorlar demedim (Japoncadaki kanji gibi bir olayları yok tabi), ama kullandıkları sistem Çince yazı sistemlerinden devşirilmiş, dönüştürülmüş bir sistem. Yani sıfırdan bir yazı sistemi değil, ondan derived dedim. Bizim Latin alfabesinden kendimize abece yaratmamız gibi; ya da Uygurların Arapça karakterleri kullanması gibi (bunun varyasyonları var biliyorsun). Koreliler epey oynamış yalnız, bence çok da iyi etmişler. Japonların basitleştirilmiş sistemi de hiragana ve kılıç yazısı katakana bilirsin. Bu ikisi de Çince yazı sistemlerinden doğma.

[@09kn09]

El Turco Ezberin sağlamsa, fotografik belleğin varsa sorun değil. Baş ağrıtan kısmı kanji (yazarken-okurken). Ne kadar kanji karakter ezberlersen o kadar iyi. Fırça darbesi sırasıyla bilsen daha iyi, zaten işin ehli hocalar öyle anlatır. Çizin de darbe sırası önemli değil diyen hocaya aldırmadan uzaklaş. Romaji ile (Latin harflerle yazımı) derse başlayan hocanın yüzüne bile bakma. Gündelik gazeteleri takip için 1500'ün üstünde kanji iyi olur. Ondan sonra Çince gazeteleri bile okursun zaten :)) Yalnız bu kanji arkadaşların irregularları var epey. Hele ad-soyad okumak olanaksız. Japonlar birbirine bile diyor zaten adım falanın kanjisiyle yazılıyor, filan gibi okunuyor diye. Bizim Japon hoca üç ayda gündelik akıcı konuşmayı beceremedik diye salak yerine koymuştu bizi, bildiğin tembeldik; sınavlara kitap açıp bakmadan girmiştim, yüzde seksenin üstünde başarılıydım. Ama ilk üç kurdan sonra olay ciddileşiyor. TRT Türkçesine denk bir dil öğretiyorlar burda. Gündelik konuşmaları öyle değil; kibar/resmi konuşma - samimi/laubali konuşma - kaba konuşma, kadın dili- erkek dili ayrı. Türkiye'deki kurs eğitimiyle gaijin der geçerler, sorun olmuyor. Günlük konuşmalarda ustalaşmak bir Türk için kulak aşinalığına, Japonya'da yaşamaya bağlı. Akademik olarak ustalaşmak için ciddi sınavları var, burs ödüllü. Ve ileri seviyeleri zorlayıcı.

[@zola93]

I am Moroccan I speak Berber, Arabic, French, Spanish, and English fluently. Few years ago I started learning Turkish by self at home - I am half way - I can understand 50% or more and I can carry basic conversation. Recently I started watching Kdrama and decided to learn Korean. Because I learned Turkish, I found it easy to learn Korean because they share the same sentence structure and they both uses suffixes. I am just gifted with grasping quickly in any language.

[@obseraft]

loves to Morocco!

[@henrytranslate5878]

Japanese:水(みず Mizu)water Korean:물(mul) water Uyghur: مۇز (muz) ice Turkish: Buz ice. There was an analysis showing that in mid-Korean water was something like 뭇mus if I remember correctly. And many Turkish words that start with letter “b” correspond to words with letter “m”( Ben-men in other Turkic languages.)

[@henrytranslate5878]

For these words, they become similar if you trace back in time

[@帝国-p5o]

wrong.... it seems you have no clue about japanese vocabulary... there is no native vocabulary similar to korean or other northern languages... japanese is isolate language family or related to austric. in 2015 japanese was grouped with ainu and austric. especially austroasiatic and malayo-polynesian

[@henrytranslate5878]

マレーシア語などと似てる単語があるのも認めますけど、韓国語、トルコ語などと似てる単語もたくさんある。逆にそっちより多いと思います。↓ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Japanese_and_Korean

[@帝国-p5o]

these studies either lack conclusive evidence or have suffered large discredit.[9][10][11][12] and "may".... this is nothing....

[@帝国-p5o]

no they are not... the japanese root word is different, not to mention the other ryukyuan. look proto-vocabulary. japanese is prooven to be connected with ainu and southeast-asian languages. i am not sure about korean, but genetically koreans are also not related to mongols. japonic is officially isolated, but grouped with ainu and southeast-asian languages. proto-japanese show similarities to southeast-asian languages, especially native taiwanese(austronesian). read in text books about

[@defski]

I speak Turkish, and Mongolian sounds eerily similar to me. When I'm listening to Mongolian, it sounds like I should be knowing what's being spoken, but I don't, and it completely throws me off!

[@iamsema]

Bonkaholic ! I completely agree!^^

[@derlinclaire1778]

The Guardian of Truth b

[@baretous]

Maybe the smiilarities are due to the sprachbund effect. Like between turks and some uralic languages. Think about hungarian: it's an uralic language but even before arriving in Pannonia they had already many turk words. Certainly because they lived alongside each other for some times.

[@sunheechoi3679]

language structer is easely borrowed, we see this in the papuan languages and the near indonesian ones, or the iranian and turkic languages, or the ancient latin langauges. grammer can change with several arts. it can be cultural contact, mixing, yes, even war.

[@sunheechoi3679]

that also, but i mean that the grammer of old-iranian is different to today iranian. today it is SOV. also interesting, proto-indo-european was SOV like latin or turkic, than it changed to SVO and some like persian again changed back to SOV.

[@cosmokaulitz22]

While being in Turkey a Japanese friend studied Turkish language and literature and he excelled in the subject cuz he said the language logic structure and grammar and to some extent vocabulary are similar. The same when a Turkish girl in my class learnt Korean with almost no effort. I remember when I learnt Turkish it was a nightmare since I'm a Spanish speaker (Indo-European). Theese language not be similar in vocabulary today but they might have a common origin

[@kohati7512]

It's clear that Turkic languages, Japanese, Korean have the same origin. Grammatically and lexically, they are similar, thus get classified into Altaic family

[@ers4690]

Let him learn Uzbek Qazaq or Mrygz language Its turkish but with old words (no arab words)

[@naomus]

@@kohati7512 Turkish & Korean vocabulary is similar even nowadays: Turkish - Korean buz *(*muŕ)* "ice" = muĺ "water" kurum = küüŕüm "soot" kül "ash" = kuĺ "soot" dam "roof' = dam "wall" kayın *(*kayun)* "birch" = kamunbi "spruce" davar "stock" = dabaĺ "bunch" güneš *(*güneĺ)* "sun" = günüĺ "shadow" balık "fish" = baĺgani "carp" balta *(*baltu)* "ax" = maĺttug "pile" bašmak *(*baĺmak)* = baĺmak "foodwear" yoğun *(*yoygun)* = dukkoun "thick" gönül "heart" = üŋöŕi "core, stiff muscle" kaburga = kaĺbi "rib" boran = baŕam "strong wind" ördek = oŕi "duck" kadı = kudın "solid" daha = tö "more" karadža *(*karaĺga)* "roe" = koŕani "elk" (compare Nenets hora, Chukchi qoraŋä, Tungus oran, Mongol oroŋgo "deer") bütün = modın "all" turna = turumi "crane" sungur = soŋgoĺ "falcon" čağ = čök "time"

[@user-xs7kb3cz6j]

yeah i've heard many turkish people say that the only hard thing about learning korean and/or japanese was the alphabet and the rest was both easy and enjoyable

[@roufamagga4453]

Do you know the exact version of this music composed of the lyrics in the Orkhon Inscriptions? I could not find any. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmK3en5rlpZke5o

[@jacquescielbleu293]

One of the old Japanese religion is called Tenriism. However the old Turkic religion is called Tengrism. Both religions have one god. So, I think we can say the words "Tengri" and "Tenri" are cognates. Moreover they both mean "God". I don't know if the word Tenri is still being used in Japanese but the descendent of the word Tengri is "Tanrı" in today's Turkish. This religious similarity may lead us to think that they might derived from a one original language.

[@Genso326]

@@xanshen9011 Good for you Ding dong

[@melihcan1167]

Jacques Cielbleu tanrı new turkısh Tengri Old

[@ataulgenbaykayacan9177]

​@@Genso326 The problem is, even the ones who claim to be of true descendants of the "real" Turks, - i.e. a close friend of mine-, believe in Islam. Do not misunderstand me, however, Christianity, Islam or any other religion are perfect in their own way as long as they are practised properly since many of the religions out there are to guide humanity by stating the facts of what is good and bad. Yet, the humankind is simple, I'm simple. It is simply too complicated to fill in the gaps and to interpret what we do not understand. Sometimes it is difficult to question every single thing you believe in even if they are outdated and doesn't make sense anymore. A poor man will only see one side of the curtain and he will not seek, even may be afraid of the other side since what he desperately needs is something to feed on to ease his hunger, the hunger being of the soul if he can't pay for the food. Therefore, as human beings, we are bound to take a wrong step away from the path of whatever our religion is. Moreover, so long as we are social beings, we are going to spread the wrong things to our society, be it intentionally as a politician, religion leader or unintentionally. Eventually, the original religion becomes what people want to believe in day by day. For the so-called non-believers, believing in something else replaces the religion. They just create their own version of religion. Religion itself is of no importance but the act of believing is. Because, this is what I've come to understand in my own perspective, there is no antonym of 'to believe'. The verb is contradictory. You don't disbelieve, you believe in something different. Now that I am done with my little rant here, let me explain why I wrote these which seems like unrelated to what you wrote. I'm a simple guy, be it a Europian or Asian, I've had many friends and I get along with people wherever on earth I go to. However, religion being the top discriminating factor as I tried to find a solution to convincing people accepting me as I am, just a simple human being just like you, him, her, anyone, I've come to an understanding after a long trial and error. The only way I'm perceived is either as a Muslim of Middle East, or a blasphemer in Turkey. I am neither. Yet, at the same time, I'm both. If there was no such thing as religion, people would have found something else to believe in, to create the fundemental structure of a society in order to survive. Take 10 random peope for example and put them in a room. They will always find a way to create smaller groups if they stay in the room long enough. This is why people like one of my close friends can not change without a solid reason but I found mine! If we are to pick between this and that option, I say, fuck the ones who force me to pick. If the game rules are to have side, I'm going to choose Tengrism. I'm not doing it out of a whim. Instead of being either a patronizing European, or a misogynist Arab, I choose to be what my real ancestors used to be, long before some empire. None of the religions are any different than one another, the game is just to name your religion, that is all. So, I do agree with you to a certain extent. Turkish people should return to the religion of their ancestors; I would love for this to happen. But do tell me, what do you suggest to make them convert? If, by chance, anyone here can answer to my question and provide a practical solution, I will try my best to make it happen along with many Turkish in my country who are neither Western degenerates or hive-minded Arabs.

[@wallsart1696]

Yes We call god as “Tanri” in Turkish language

[@Fukurosan8189]

You mean 天理教(Tenrikyō),the word "Tenri" is from Chinese language.

[@jadenhwang4768]

Long live the Altaic brotherhood!

[@이도원-q2l]

altaic is not existing.... educate you.... it seems american education is shit lol koreanic is isolated family.

[@jadenhwang4768]

lol i think you should learn proper English first before insulting people on their education. It's just pathetic how you fucktards are trying so hard to sound smart. pity on you

[@proabe3203]

キムチ野郎 wwwwwwwwwww

[@yoshida.takashi]

★LONG LIVE THE ALTAIC BROTHERHOOD ★ *The message goes to all Altaic Language opponents* -For all fake Japanese and Koreans here with 3 subscribers and no videos. Piss off and tell no nonsense here. Most of you can´t even speak Japanese or Korean. We are Altaic people and proud accept it her degenerate idiots.

[@jadenhwang4768]

大江広元 you sir, are amazing. I'm sure we would've been good friends if we met in real life😃

[@turan2815]

long live our brotherhood 🇹🇷🇲🇳🇯🇵🇰🇷🇭🇺🇫🇮🇦🇿🇹🇲🇺🇿🇰🇬🇰🇿🇰🇵

[@itzz-monster6272]

finland azer hungary not alatic

[@Timurid1370]

@@itzz-monster6272 azer iz turkic u fool

[@King-Hammurabi]

Finland and Hungary are Uralic (Finno-Ugric), and Azerbaijan is Caucasian.

[@FleexİD]

​@@King-Hammurabi Azərbaycan is turkic. İ'm Azerbaijani

[@abbosbekmahamadaminov3687]

I am a native speaker of Uzbek language which is one of the most spoken turkic language, moreover, I am in Korea now, so I am learning Korean. My fluency through time is becoming better, and it is way more better than other native Indo-European, Chinese language speakers. It is easy to build and structure sentences in my head, and even the most of Korean grammar is also similar (prefixes, suffixes are not pronounced in the same way, but used in the same way).

[@tulparkultigintengrikut8440]

what do you do in korea?

[@abbosbekmahamadaminov3687]

Study

[@tulparkultigintengrikut8440]

study what?

[@rimatic3257]

Tulpar Kül Tigin Tengrikut korean language

[@aqlli_yechimlar]

Qalesan, Abbos? Oqishlar bo'lyaptimi?

[@darthlion6419]

I speak both Turkish and Japanese. We do share grammar and the same way of "thinking" in the language. What intrigues me most is when describing how something looks like or does, for example when describing how something shines Turks say: "piril piril", Japanese say "pika pika". I can vouch for the Altaic (languages) Sprachbund (see edit). But I think all those languages did evolve isolated from each other. I can understand how critics say that these languages don't originate from the same source, but got related to each other due to regular contact of the people speaking these languages. This still, makes the Altaic languages related, even if they might not have the same ancestors. Edit: I can vouch for the Altaic Sprachbund, not the origin. Sprachbund = our languages had different origins, but learned words or grammar from each other through regular communication. That explains why the language today share some similarities, but the proto's don't.

[@altaykun98]

DarthLion this is the comment i was looking for, thanks man :)

[@kinhahaha7161]

this comment is underrated .

[@giargo]

What is pika pika?

[@emdadahmed5592]

@@giargo Pikachu's cry!

[@ufukoztrk748]

@@giargo pika pika or pırıl pırıl's menas is "sparkling"

[@mad4396]

Altaic family is the best.

[@kohati7512]

Turkic, Japanese, korean, Tungusic are Altaic

[@batu8261]

ko hati +Mongolic!

[@cudanmang_theog]

Khazar Azkenazi Jews are Turks

[@Umut_9182]

@Aline Cardoso Nah. If Altaic family never exist, Europe couldn't be Europe rn

[@reddituser6403]

@Aline Cardoso It's cool too. I'm still surprised how Indian and European languages are connected

[@grim3075]

I am a native Turkish speaker and I also speak Korean, even though I started learning Korean on my own I excelled faster than my friends couse of the similar language structure and way of thinking. Pronunciation was also not that hard for me even though I know my American friends had a hard time learning it. Just from these points I do think we must have had some tipe of similar ancestry.

[@kaanpullu]

As a native Turkish speaker, I think the point is lack of documentation. Japanese and Korean people had a settled lifestyle, so they could easily write down their languages. But in the other hand, Turks, Mongolians, Tungusian peoples (mostly native Siberians actually) were all nomads and unsettled people. So it was impossible for them to write their languages. Earliest records of Old Turkic are from 8th century, and they are only some historical and mythologic scripts carved on stones, and some gravestones. It is understandable for modern Turkish speakers in a sense. Nomads didn't have neither time or opportunity to write things down, because they had to live in hard conditions and they fighted with each other almost everytime. But, about this "going back to old languages" thing, historical sources disagree with what you said as "They get diverged forom each other.". In many Arabic and Persian historical sources from Turkish migrations to Middle-East, they clearly say that Turks and Mongolians didn't find it hard to communicate. Even during the Mongolian Invasion, some sources tell that Mongolians could understand Turkish and vice versa. Many linguistics sources from the period called as "The Transition Period" (Early Islamisation of Turks) say that Turkish and Mongolian languages were so close, almost the same, before the Xiongnu Empire (Mostly accepted as the Hunnic Confederation much before they raided Europe) collapsed.

[@levent-erhan]

agree with all of that except i'm not sure how much is known about the Xiongnu. i did a little research but got the impression that nearly all aspects of that confederacy is based on speculation.

[@pearljamay]

Kazım Mirşan

[@luckyblu9790]

I agree with this. I don't think I would include Korean and Japanese in the Altaic languages. When I look at Turks and Mongolians, I think that they are more similar because of their lifestyle, culture, and languages similarities. I would just say that Turkic people are Muslims while Mongolians are not. That's the differences from what I've seen that sets them apart, but language-wise, they sound quite similar from what I've seen. Studying both Korean and Japanese cultures and languages, I can say they are more influenced from Chinese (Sino-Tibetan) than Turkish and Mongolians. Korean language is heavily influenced from Chinese Confucius. This is why they have so many honorifics in their language. Koreans and Japanese are both agricultural societies, whereas Turks and Mongolians were nomadic societies. I'm sure there are some word sounding similarities, but I say all of their languages evolved differently. In reality, I think that Korean and Japanese are both their own isolated languages. Even Korean languages and Japanese languages quite different, despite both of them being SOV languages like Turkish and Mongolians. Since Turkic and Mongolians languages are from East Asia, what some scholars forget is that even some Sino-Tibetan languages are SOV just like Turkish and Mongolians as well. Even ancient Chinese language was a SOV, but as of today, their language changed to SVO. Is it possible, or the likeliness to include Sino-Tibetan in this Altaic languages as well? No. I would not include Sino-Tibetan, Korean, and Japanese in Altaic languages because of their cultures and societies differences from Turks and Mongolians.

[@casper-z9rkls6gl]

@@luckyblu9790 True, some half of all words in Japanese and Korean are of Chinese origin, but that does not alter their fundamental character, just like 50% of English terms come from Latin, but that doesn't make English a Latin language (it belongs to the Germanic family).

[@moseschrist1113]

@@luckyblu9790 not really, it wouldnt surprise me if there are more muslim mongols.

[@Dudik28]

I'm Estonian and I've always had this strange feeling of similarity when listening to Japanese and Turkish. There is something odd, because the words are absolutely different.

[@soguknevale5195]

hello my friend I'm from Turkey. our ancestors lived in Central Asia and migrated to approximately a thousand years ago today, on the border with Turkey, are mixed with different nations in Anatolia so the only thing resembling asian been our language, but it's still people slanting eyes, although Western facial features in Turkey (I)

[@aukafka8500]

As a Mongolian, I also felt that too when I heard Hungarian, Estonian and Finnish

[@rilonius2865]

@@soguknevale5195 He’s Estonian which is Uralic not Turkic. There is no sufficient evidence that Uralic is genetically related to Altaic or Turkic languages and the Uralic languages originated from Siberia near the Ural Mountains not Central Asia. Also, Anatolian Turks are only around 10% Central Asian on average. They are mostly descended from Hellenized Anatolians who were assimilated and converted by the Turkic nomads. Assimilated slaves from the Balkans added to the European appearance.

[@mhkuntug]

@@rilonius2865 Turkic family is south Siberian from Altai Mountains

[@jackwhitestripe7342]

@@rilonius2865 Turkic nomads (or any nomad) were not able to assimilate and convert sedentary people, by no means. It is just not possible. In the Anatolian case, Turks migrated to the region on large scale; they did not just send an army to conquer but migrated altogether. Turks were a "warrior" nation, warrior nomads. They could build an army very quickly and build huge tribal federations, confederations very quickly. But all those things happened in a long period of time and by different migration waves. Some Turks kept the northern route to Euroasia, Europe, Northern Europe and Balkan. In Turkey, they are Oghuz Turks (Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan and Moldova- Gagauz Turks). But the Turks who took the northern route Europe were Pecheneq, Uz, Avar, Khazar, Kuman, Kipchak, Bulgar and many more.

[@fearmetv4010]

I'm a Persian native speaker, and I can speak Turkish, Azeri, English, and I know a little about Arabic and Korean too. As far as I've seen, Korean and Turkic languages do sound similar, despite having very little words in common. Turkic languages do not have as many honorifics as in Korean; however, a non-Turkic non-Korean speaker might not notice a difference in their sound when they hear both languages. If I wanted to compare my native language, Turkic-Korean languages are more similar to each other than Persian-Arabic or Persian-Turkic (and interestingly enough, they're neighbor countries too). I think the reason behind such a diverse language family is the nomadic and decentralized lifestyle of their ancient people, with each tribe growing their own isolated culture, while having similar ancestries.

[@ulgenkoc2893]

Mohammadreza Hajianpour very interresting comment, thank you

[@0Er0]

Decentralized lifestyle exactly.

[@mutluanne1492]

I am a native English speaker who became somewhat fluent in Turkish. The first time I heard Turkish spoken it struck me as a cross between something like Chinese and German. While living in Turkey, I met Korean people who could very quickly learn the language because of the grammatical similarities, but they had difficulty with pronunciation. Their accent made it difficult for native Turkish speakers to understand them. The tutor who helped me tremendously at learning Turkish was also learning Japanese and apart from the characters versus romanized alphabet, she didn’t find it at all difficult.

[@royal6355]

@@mutluanne1492 Türkçe duyduğun ve okuduğunun yüzde kaçını anlıyorsun?

[@fearmetv4010]

@ДЖАВАД ХАН Natives call it Azeri.

[@alibaba888]

Hi, I know Turkish and I am learning Japanese at the moment. I can't say it is super easy but it is easier than German/Spanish. The grammar is really similar but it can change time to time for some sentences (esp. when there is a number in the sentence but other than that, it is easy). I don't know why people say that Japanese/Korean/Turkish is TOTALLY different but my (native) Japanese teacher knows Turkish and said it is not that hard for a Japanese. I see Japanese like that, it is not that hard but it takes time. ALSO I saw some rude comments about saying Turkish are terrorists OR they are all Kurdish, those are really sad because they don't know Turkish people neither Turkey. You must live here to know what is really going on (same for Japan/Korea, maybe that is why they are really nationalist). Some people will say Japan hates Turkey, some will say I am a terrorist and just accuse me for being Muslim, some will say I am brainwashed, people who say this; please look at yourself and don't believe everything on the internet. In my school there was an exchange program and a student came from Brasil, he said that on the internet there were a lot of bad things about Turkey (which was true, I mean some of them) and as a result his family didn't want to send him to Turkey, but when he came here we all treated very nice (that is how we treat people who are respectful to everyone equally) and he was amazed that the media was lying a lot.

[@masafumiikeda961]

most japanese do not have any feelings for turkey(no hate, no love, only neutral). it really depends on personality. but japanese language is not altaic. japanese language is in the japonic family. japonic family=japanese&ryukyuan. japonic is a isolated family, but maybe related to austronesian.

[@jonturk2593]

You are a bit right and a bit wrong

[@alibaba888]

RunOnur Pixelon where am I wrong? I just want to know ^^, please don't get offended

[@alibaba888]

+Masafumi Ikeda I know they have not feelings for Turkey, I hope they don't hate us ^^ . I read somewhere that Japanese is Japonic (like you said) but for some reason maybe it is connected to Altaic language family because it is easier for me to learn Japanese than Spanish

[@masafumiikeda961]

most do not hate turkey :) most japanese do not hate any nations, only some nationalists. yes japanese is japonic. the altiac theory seems to be debunked some time ago. i think you learn it easier is because of SOV and agglutinative grammer. austronesian is also agglutinative. or dravidian is SOV and agglutinative. we say now that japanese is more related to southeast-asian languages. but i think all human languages are a bit related, because we all are humans :)

[@yagmurpark7319]

Turks ,Koreans and Japanese have a common cultural understanding as well. We get along, understand and speak the same body language as well.

[@moseschrist1113]

koreans and japanese dont get along. japanese are bullying them

[@linguisticschp2947]

Turks Koreans Japanese common culture???🙄. First of all Turk culture is nothing like Asian!!!! It looks like mostly Arabs

[@linguisticschp2947]

@Dylan Daley not all Indians are genetically Asian !!!

[@yagmurpark7319]

@@linguisticschp2947 Turks are a extention from Mongolians from asia minor all the way to the Balkans, Russia, Misdlle ease and almost reached Europe. The only thing they have iin common with Arabs are the religion and that they conquered and ruled some Arab speaking nations such as Syria İraq. FYİ.

[@linguisticschp2947]

@@yagmurpark7319 but , not all Turks ! ... Some maybe by Genghis Khan

[@jc4379]

i speak korean and hear similarities in the turkic languages. i have kazakh friends and we always share a comftorable bond on meeting.

[@jc4379]

that's cool. It's such a unique grammar as well. There must be some ancestral links

[@SYldz67]

dina im turkish from turkey. i want to learn kazakh language as well. i have been to azerbaijan and learnt their languages in 1 week :D and i want to travel to other turkics countries like yours too.

[@Abeturk]

Ka=(Qua)= which Ön=(eun)=(fore/ first- one ) (Ka-ön) = which one (Ka-eun) = (Gæn/gên) = (ğan/ğen )= an/ en Gel = come (Gel-gên) =gelen = which one is coming /(what or who comes) (Get-gên) =giden = which one is going /(what or who goes) (Sat-gên) =satan = which one is selling /(who sells) (Bak-gên) =bakan =which one is looking /(what or who looks) (Gör-mã-gên) =görmeyen =which one is not seeing /(who doesn't see) Kak-mak= to direct Kaktırmak= to steer Kakılmak> to get being oriented/ to get being fixed =kağılmak >kalmak= to stay /~to remain Kakılmak>to be directed any side >kalıkmak>kalkmak =to stand up / to get up Kakıldırmak>kağıldırmak> to get being steered away = kaldırmak = to remove / ~to lift up (Yukarı Kak)>Yukarı Kalk = (direct yourself up) =Get up Kak-ak = which thing to direct it = what to steer it Kakak= Gagak=Gaga (All of them are the same meaning) (Kuş'nuŋ Gagağı) Kuşun Gagası = ( the router of bird ) the beak of bird=(it's not bird's mouth or nose) Uç-ak=which thing to fly (uçak=airplane) Bür-ek= what to wring by twisting (börek=patty) (mantı=pasty) Ka=(Qua)= which Ön=(eun)=fore/ first-one Kakğan= Kak-kan=(kak-ka-eun)= ( which one leads )= Who's directing Kakğan=Kağan=Hakan=Hahan=Khan=Han (All of them are the same meaning) Han = director- manager-leader Kohen = religious leader Kãhin= who directs us regarding the future (Mu-eun)=men/man= this one Kak-man=Kağ-man= kaoman=kaman=Xaman=Haman=Amon=the manager is this one=(commander) Çün=(chun)=factor ( Jiŋ= agency /being the agent/element of..) Ka=(Qua)= (which) U=(ou)= it (that) (Ka-u)= Ki=(Qui)=which that (Çün-ka-u) =Çünki =(parce que/ c'est-pour-quoi)=(that's why))=(therefore)= Because (U-çün)= İçün=için= (that factor..)= For.. (it's for) (Ne-u-çün)=Niçün=Niçin=(what-that-factor)= Why.. (what-for) for deriving new adjectives from nouns and adjectives Çün=factor ( Jiŋ= agency /being the agent/element of..) suffixes.. (Cı-ci-cu-cü) or (Çı-çi-çu-çü) = (jui / tchui ) Yaban =faraway/ out of center =Jaban (Jaban-jiŋ) Yabancı = (outsider)=foreign-er (ish-jiŋ)İşçi= work-er (Kapuğ-jın) Kapıcı=doorman Temür=Demir= Iron /ferrum (Temür-jin) Demirci=ironsmith (Temochin/ mongolian) gemici=sailor Tengiz=Deŋiz= Sea (Tchenggis/mongolian) (Tengiz-jin) Deŋizci=seaman

[@jildizasankulova5230]

I speak Kyrgyz. They say it sounds like Japanese. It belongs to turkic languages group. Some japanese people look like Kyrgyz people by the way.

[@masafumiikeda961]

no. i am japanese and i can say that this is a wrong claim. japanese phonology(sound) is very similar to austronesian, especially to native taiwanese and polynesian. japanese language is not altaic. it is isolated or para-austronesian. the altaic theory is discredited. we have no genetically connection to central-asians.

[@tulparkultigintengrikut8440]

Japanese people and krygiz dont look the same.

[@alexanderrossovitch2585]

The original Turkic phenotype (or rather, the basic phenotype) is Turanid. The Turanid race is exclusively in Turkic and Hungarian people. However, it is not found in Japan, or even China, except in parts of Uygurstan.

[@marcusaurelius3200]

Александр Хирешев Hungarians do not have turanid. Just in some little tribes.

[@muhammetocak5042]

@@masafumiikeda961 i am a native turkish speaker and can speak japanese too. it was just a child play to learn japanese for me. it is almost gramatically same. btw old turkic alphabet was consist of syllable letters. i mean you have ro, ku, n, ni, chi etc and old turkic alphabet has ra, ka, an, ne, nç, etc. i am not a linguistic scientist but i dont know it has to be relative from somewhere.

[@erikravdanbayar]

I am mongolian it is easy to learn Korean

[@Nordisk11]

Ecko Erka Korean should be easy for everyone.

[@ykuk1380]

Ecko Erka as a korean, I totally agree with you. Mongolians speak just like the native koreans, not even comparable to Japanese or Chinese speaking koreans. Why do you think that is so??? I'm really curious, when Mongolians speak fluent korean, we cannot even differentiate your face feature from koreans.

[@peti54]

Ecko Erka same i mean i speak turkisch it is really easy. But it is easier to learn japanese bc the pronunciation is quiet similar

[@s4nity597]

@Jangwoo Lee, i admit we mongolian people are immature and we do stupid things at times, but please do understand that not everyone acts this way.

[@michkodvd273]

Ecko Erka me too чих шиг 😂😂 I am mongolian

[@bulentbulut4965]

As a Turkish speaker. I apologise to all Korean and Japanese people. You are stay obliged under some bad turanic comments because of us but I can sincerely say Korean and Japanese grammars are highly similar to Turkish language. It can't be just a coincidence. Maybe we can share same ancestors with Japonic and Koreanic people for some reason. But particularly not earlier times. May be 20000 or 30000 years ago. Again sorry guys. Peace 🤞

[@kohati7512]

Wrong. Japanese and Korean are Altaic and related to Turkic and Tungusic.

[@waggonvalley2523]

korean and manchurian[tungusic] language similarity examples 1. catch + ~ [verb in imperative sentence] korean: ~ + jaba manchurian: ~ + jafa 2. caught [past tense verb] korean: jabatda manchurian: jafaha 3. go + ~ [verb in imperative sentence] korean: ~ + gara manchurian: ~ + gunu 4. root [noun] korean: bulhui[bburi] manchurian: fulruhu 5. at + ~ korean: ~ + e manchurian: ~ + de 6. question mark word korean: ~yo?/~hano?/~gga? manchurian: ~nyo? some linguist say more than 200 similar words between korean language and manchurian language were found recently. according to records, first machurian people lived in korean peninsular and later moved to manchuria. it means ancient manchurian people was one of korean peoples. so it is almost no doubt both languages are originated from same language.

[@kohati7512]

Korean-Jaoanese-Tungusic-Mongolic-Turkic share the same origins. That's why they are similar. Haplogroup O2b is found in both Manchurian (Tungusic) and Korean-japanese.

[@yingqin7256]

@@kohati7512 All Korean and Japanese words that are similar are Chinese words, idiot

[@yo2trader539]

Proto-Korean speakers are from Manchuria.

[@goodstuff6006]

This is interesting. Some questions in korean in the past actually used ~nyo? As well. (I.e. 거기서 뭐하느뇨? ~을 하다뇨? Etc)

[@martonjuhasz1544]

I'm Hungarian and I can assure you we understand no-one but ourselves. Uralic and Altaic languages sound much more natural to me though. It is sometimes really depressing that it appears like we have no close kin like Germanic and Slavic people. It would be nice to have solid evidence to the connection to the mentioned languages instead of being told we are a dying, defeated language family. Maybe I am wrong, but i feel positive about the relation to these northern and eastern people. However our feelings play no part in this. We are who we are and if we are alone, then we will just have to accept it and try our best not to go extinct. Have a great day!

[@fenderplayer2355]

Marton: I hope this finds you in a better state of mind. I am a Hungarian- American. I read your post with a heavy heart; I will not say that you are wrong in some of your assertions BUT it seems to me that Hungarians seem to have a melancholy attitude about who we are. YES; we DO have an identity crisis. We are a small island of Magyar speakers surrounded by sometimes hostile and highly unrelated neighbors. Germans and Slavs. We are NOT related to these peoples. We are UNIQUE in Central Europe and should be VERY proud of this fact. Our nearest relatives are NOT the Finns or estonians BUT the Mansi and Khanty peoples of the Ural region, deep in Russia. These people speak a language so close to ours that Hungarian monks traveling there in Middle Ages in search of "lost Hungarians" were elated to find people who language was so very close to Hungarian. The Magyar tribes left this area sometime early in the First Millenia and where influenced by the Turkic tribes they encountered to their south. There are VERY significant similarities, esp . in vocabulary between Magyar, some of the Turkic languages and even Mongolic. Certainly, the life styles of all these (including Hungarians) were very similar. They were herdsmen, who were constantly on the search for fresher pastureland for their herds and were seen as fierce warriors, members of the "Nation of Archers" which were the bane of the most settled peoples they can in contact with. There is some evidence that the Early Magyar tribes in their Westward trek out of the steppes of Asia spend alot of time with the Bashkirs, a Turkic people. The legend goes that while the Magyars were out raiding some of the sedentary peoples, their arch enemies, the Petchenegs, yet ANOTHER Turkic group ( "Besenyok" ) in Hungarian raided their camps and killed most of their women and Children. The Petchenegs got their just desserts later when in a series of wars, the Petchenegs were virtually annihilated by a combined Byzantine /Magyar/Cuman force. In fact , their pitiful remnants were incorporated into the Hungarian nation. The Bashkirs saw what had happened and for reasons which are lost to the mists of time, offered to have Bashkir women marry into the Magyar tribes. Some people cast doubt on this as pure mythology BUT many other scholars maintain that there are myriad reasons to believe that it is true. IF you look at Bashkir people, they LOOK like us, many of their customs mirror ours and their music esp. sounds like ours. Most significantly, Bashkir clothing and textile design patterns are also found in traditional Hungarian clothing. This reinforces the story of the infusion of Bashkir women into the Hungarian tribes as women would be the primary carriers of these designs and traditions. To my mind, Were are NOT alone. We have Many "Cousins" to our east who look and sound like us. There are MANY, MANY more points of contact between Turkic peoples and ourselves, too numerous to mention here. Here is one more. The Cumans, ANOTHER Turkic group settled in Hungary and up to the 18th century in Central Hungary the Cuman language could be heard amongst their descendants in Hungary. Anyone in Hungary with the surmane "KUN" is of Cuman ancestry. If you listen to some of the Turkic languages, their Sounds and cadence are very close to Magyar. Marton, remember something, we are 10 million strong in our beloved homeland, we are are MILLIONS more across the globe and in our stolen homelands, we have a GREAT legacy of literature in our own language, and as long as we stay PROUD of who were are; we WILL Surely Survive......... ELJEN A MAGYAROK!!!!!!!!!!!!! PS: Sounds Turkic doesn't it?

[@kbasusta]

@@fenderplayer2355 as a Turkish person I found your post very enlightening and well thought out. Thanks for sharing.

[@pearljamay]

Bro, we are cousins. Dont worry. Doesnt matter what you believe in or what language you speak. Greetings from Turkiye.

[@foottoast4235]

Hungary is a shitty country either way so whatever, be happy you're related to a good country like Finland

[@xstoofpeer]

@@fenderplayer2355 If you're not related to Germans and Slavs, why did you mix so much with them that your DNA became 80% German/Slav?

[@winterbalm]

i speak Sakha language and I am familiar with other Turkic languages, Japanese and Korean I think it is not right to unite them into one family whatever similarities there are can be explained by the fact that tens of thousands of years ago humans came to East Asia and may have been in contact with each other and then formed their own languages

[@문기강-v2i]

Language contect happened much more among Euoropean languages than among Altaic languages.

[@bababashqort3598]

I am a native Bashkir speaker, and I am currently learning Japanese. I find it MUCH easier than how other learners described it to me, and after starting, it was easier for me to make the sentences due to the same word order and the similar suffixes. My sister is learning Korean, and she also said that it is much easier than what others have told her, and despite these languages being considered as isolate, I saw a lot of similarities in syntax and even in some expressions! I also listened and researched some other Japonic languages, like Okinawan, and found even more similarities there, probably because of them having less Chinese influence than Japanese. I am a supporter of this theory, because I think that at some point, everyone was speaking the same language, and in the area of the Altaic languages, they must have a single common ancestor, isn't it?

[@Abeturk]

Deriving a new verb in turkish 1.(Der-mek= ~to set layout & to provide)=ter'kib & ter'tib etmek (used after the verbs which ending with a consonant) Verb+"Der" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (ter-tir-tür/der-dir-dür/er-ir-ür) Verb+"Dar" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (tar-tır-tur/dar-dır-dur/ar-ır-ur) (ak-mak>aktarmak)(bakmak>baktırmak)(almak>aldırmak)(çıkmak>çıkarmak)(kaçmak>kaçırmak) 2.(Et-mek = ~ to make) (mostly used after the verbs ending with a vowel sound and when the suffix "der" was used before) Verb+"T" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (t-it-üt) Verb+"T" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (t-ıt-ut) (ak-mak>akıtmak)(bakmak>bakıtmak)(yürümek>yürütmek)(yırmak>yırtmak)(öldürmek>öldürtmek) 3.(Eş=partner) (together or with partner)-(all together or altogether)-(each other or about each one) Verb+"Eş" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (eş-iş-üş) Verb+"Aş" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (aş-ış-uş) (gör-mek-görüşmek) (bulmak>buluşmak)(uğramak-uğraşmak) (çalmak-çalışmak) 4.(Al / El)= come to a state/a form through someone or something (to get being ...ed) Verb+"El" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (el-il-ül) Verb+"Al" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (al-ıl-ul) (it's used as N to shorten some verbs) (gör-mek-görülmek) (satmak>-satılmak)(vermek>verilmek)(yemek>yeyilmek/yenmek) 5."En"=own diameter(self environment)=(about own self) Verb+"En" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (en-in-ün) Verb+"An" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (an-ın-un) (gör-mek>görünmek) (bulmak>bulunmak) (tıkamak>tıkanmak) (kıvırmak>kıvranmak) Mak/Mek...(emek)=exertion /process Git=Go (verb root) Git-mek= to go (the process of going) (Git-der-mek>gittirmek)=1.Götürmek= to take away (2. Gidermek=~to resolve) (Git-en-der-mek>gidindirmek)= Göndermek= to send Gel-mek= to come (Gel-der-mek>geltirmek)=Getirmek= to bring 1.Gelmek...2.Getirmek...3.Getirtmek...4.Getirttirmek..5.Getirttirtmek..and it's going so on Dür-mek= to roll it up (to make it becomes a roll) Dör-mek= to rotate on its axis ( törmek=old meaning)-(to stir it , to mix it(current meaning) (döngü)törüş/törüv=tour (törüv-çi=turqui)(tör-geş=turkish)=tourist...(törük halk=mixed people in ownself) (Tör-en-mek)>dörünmek= to rotate oneself /(2. to turn by oneself) (Törn-mek)>Dönmek= to turn oneself (Dön-der-mek)>döndürmek= to turn something (Dön-eş-mek)>dönüşmek= to turn (altogether) to something (Dön-eş-der-mek)>dönüştürmek= to convert/ to transform Yürü-mek= to go on (to walk) (Yürü-et-mek)>yürütmek= to make it go on (Yürü-et-der-mek)>yürüttürmek=to be provider ensuring it's going on simple wide tense for positive sentences Var-mak= to arrive (for the thick voiced words) (positive suffixes)=(Ar-ır-ur) Er-mek= to get (at) (for the subtle voiced words) (positive suffixes)=(Er-ir-ür) for negative sentences Ma=not Bas-mak= to dwell on /tread on (bas git= ~leave and go) Maz=(negativity suffix)=(ma-bas) =(No pass)=Na pas=not to dwell on > vaz geç= give up (for the thick voiced words) Ez-mek= to crush (ez geç= ~think nothing about) Mez=(negativity suffix)=(ma-ez) =(No crush)=doesn't > es geç = skip (for the subtle voiced words) Tan= the dawn Tanımak= to recognize (~to get the differences of) (Tanı-ma-bas)= tanımaz= ~doesn't recognize (Tanı-et-ma-bas)= tanıtmaz= doesn't make it get recognized (Tanı-en-ma-bas)= tanınmaz= doesn't inform about oneself (doesn't get known by any) (Tanı-eş-ma-bas)= tanışmaz= doesn't get known each other Tanışmak= to get to know each other =(~to meet first time) Danışmak= to get information from each other Uç=~ top point (Uç-mak)= to fly (Uç-a-var)= Uçar=it flies (arrives at flying) (Uç-ma-bas)= uçmaz= doesn't fly (~gives up flying) (Uç-der-ma-bas)=(uçturmaz)=uçurmaz= doesnt fly it (doesn't make it fly) (Uç-eş-ma-bas)=uçuşmaz= doesn't (all)together fly (Uç-al-ma-bas)=uçulmaz= doesn't get being flied Su=water (Suv)=fluent-flowing (suvu)=Sıvı=fluid, liquid Suv-mak=~ to make it flow onwards/upward (>sıvamak) Suy-mak=~ to make it flow over Süv-mek=~ to make it flow inwards Sür-mek=~ to make it flow on something Suv-up =liquefied=(soup) Sür-up(shurup)=syrup Suruppah(chorba)=soup Suruppat(sherbet)=sorbet sharap=wine mashrubat=beverage (Süp-mek)=~ to make it flow outwards (süp-der-mek>süptürmek)>süpürmek=to sweep Say-mak=~ to make it flow one by one (from the mind) = ~ to count ~ to deem (sayı=number) (bilgisayar=computer) Söy-mek=~ to make it flow from the mind (Söy-le-mek= to make the sentences flowing through the mind =~to say, ~to tell ) Sev-mek=~ to make it flow from the mind (to the heart) = to love Söv-mek=~ call names (to say whatever's on own mind) Süy-mek=~ to make it flow from inside (süyüt) =Süt= milk Soy-mak=~ to make it flow over it/him/her ( to peel, ~to strip, ~to rob ) (Soy-en-mak)>soyunmak=to undress (Sıy-der-mak)>sıyırmak= skimming, ~skinning Siy-mek=~ to make it flow downwards =to pee Siyitik>Sidik= urine Süz-mek=~ to make it lightly flow from up to downwards (~to filter, strain out) Sez-mek=~ to make it lightly flow into the mind (~to perceive, to intuit) Sız-mak=~ to get flowed slightly/slowly (~to infiltrate) Sun-mak= to extend it forwards (presentation, exhibition, to serve up) Sün-mek=to expand reaching outwards (sünger=sponge) Sın-mak=to reach by extending upwards or forwards Sin-mek=to shrink (oneself) by getting down or back (to lurk, to hide onself) Sön-mek=to get decreased by getting out or in oneself (to be extinguished) Sağ-mak= ~ to make it's poured down (Sağanak=downpour) (sağ-en-mak)>sağınmak=~ to make oneself poured from thought into emotions (Sağn-mak)>San-mak= ~ to make it pour from thought to idea (to arrive at the idea) Sav-mak=~ to make it pour outwards (2.>put forward- set forth in) (sağan)=Sahan=the container to pour water (Sav-der-mak)>(savdurmak)> savurmak (Sav-der-al-mak)>(savurulmak)> savrulmak=to get scattered/driven away (Sav-en-mak)>savunmak=to defend (Sav-en-al-mak)>savunulmak=to get being defended (Sav-eş-mak)1.>savaşmak=to pour blood / to shed each other's blood (savaş= the war) 2.savuşmak=to get spilled around.(altogether-downright)=(sıvışmak=~running away in fear) (Sav-eş-der-mak)1.>savaştırmak=(~to make them fight each other)2.>savuşturmak =(ward off-fend off) Sürmek = ~ to make it flow on something (Sür-e--er)= sürer = lasts /gets go on /drives / spreads on (Sür-der-mek)> sürdürmek= to make it continue (~to sustain) (Sür-der-e--er)= sürdürür = makes it last forwards ,(makes it continue) (Sür-ma-ez)= sürmez = doesn't drive / gives up fllowing on / skips the spread of (Sür-der-ma-ez)= sürdürmez =doesn't make it go on (doesn't make it continue) (Sür-al-ma-ez)= sürülmez =doesnt get driven by any.. (2.doesnt get followed by any) Sür-en-mek> sürünmek= (~to makeup) (~rides odor) (~to paint oneself) Sürü-mek= to take it away forward / backward on the floor (Sürü-e--er)=sürür=takes it away forward (Sürü-et-mek)=(sürütmek) sürtmek=~to rub (Sürü-al-mek)=2.sürülmek=to get expelled (Sürü-en-mek)=2.sürünmek=to creep on (Sürü-en--der-mek)=süründürmek=~to make it's creeping on (Sürü-et-en-mek)=sürtünmek=to have a friction (Sürü-et--eş-mek)=sürtüşmek=to get rubbed each other (Gör-mek)=to see (Gör-e-er)=görür=(that) sees (Gör-ma-ez)=görmez= doesn't see (Gör-en-ma-ez)= görünmez= doesn't show oneself (doesn't seem) (Gör-al-ma-ez)= görülmez= doesn't get seen by any.. (Gör-eş-ma-ez)= görüşmez= doesn't get seen each other (Görs-der-ma-ez)>göstermez=(that) doesn't show (Görs)=(Khorus) Göz=Eye (Görs-et-mek)>görsetmek=to make it visible (Görs-der-mek)>göstermek=to show 1.(la/le = to make via)-~getting by means of ~to do through it -to make by this way ~getting with ) (used after the nouns and adjectives) (.le-mek-..la-mak) (.le-et-mek- .la-et-mak) (.le-et-der-mek-.la-et-der-mak) (.lemek-.lamak) (.letmek- .latmak) (.lettirmek-.lattırmak) Tıŋı= the tune (timbre) Tıŋı-la-mak= to get the sound out >(Tınlamak=~reacting /answering )(~to take heed of) Tıŋ-mak= to react vocally Tıngırdatmak=to try playing the musical instrument Tiŋi-le-mek=to get the sound in >(Dinlemek= to listen) Tiŋ-mek=to get at the silence >(Dinmek= to calm down / to get quiescent 2.(laş/leş =(ile-eş)= (to become equal with.) (to get the same) (used after the nouns and adjectives) (.leşmek-.laşmak.) (.leştirmek-.laştırmak) (.leştirtmek- .laştırtmak) 3.(lan/len =(ile-en)= (to become with)- (to get like this )(to have -this way.) (used after the nouns and adjectives) (.lenmek-.lanmak.) (.lendirmek-.landımak) (.lendirtmek- .landırtmak) by reiterations (Parıl Parıl) parıl-da-mak= to gleam (Kıpır Kıpır) kıpır-da-mak (Kımıl Kımıl) kımıl-da-mak by colors Ak= white Ağar-mak = to turn to white Kara= black Karar-mak=to become blackened Kızıl= red Kızar-mak= to turn red (to blush) (to be toasted) by a whim or a want Su-sa-mak= to thirst Kanık-sa-mak öhö-tsu-ur (öksür-mek)=to cough tüh-tsu-ur (tüksür-mek/tükürmek)=to spit out tıh-tsu-ur (tıksır-mak) hak-tsu-ur (aksır-mak) hap-tsu-ur (hapşur-mak)=to sneeze

[@Abeturk]

Ka=(Qua)= which Ön=(eun)=(fore/ first- one ) (Ka-ön) = which one (Ka-eun) = (Gæn/gên) = (ğan/ğen )= an/ en Gel = come (Gel-gên) =gelen = which one is coming /(what or who comes) (Get-gên) =giden = which one is going /(what or who goes) (Sat-gên) =satan = which one is selling /(who sells) (Bak-gên) =bakan =which one is looking /(what or who looks) (Gör-mã-gên) =görmeyen =which one is not seeing /(who doesn't see) Kak-mak= to direct Kaktırmak= to steer Kakılmak> to get being oriented/ to get being fixed =kağılmak >kalmak= to stay /~to remain Kakılmak>to be directed any side >kalıkmak>kalkmak =to stand up / to get up Kakıldırmak>kağıldırmak> to get being steered away = kaldırmak = to remove / ~to lift up (Yukarı Kak)>Yukarı Kalk = (direct yourself up) =Get up Kak-ak = which thing to direct it = what to steer it Kakak= Gagak=Gaga (All of them are the same meaning) (Kuş'nuŋ Gagağı) Kuşun Gagası = ( the router of bird ) the beak of bird=(it's not bird's mouth or nose) Uç-ak=which thing to fly (uçak=airplane) Bür-ek= what to wring by twisting (börek=patty) (mantı=pasty) Ka=(Qua)= which Ön=(eun)=fore/ first-one Kakğan= Kak-kan=(kak-ka-eun)= ( which one leads )= Who's directing Kakğan=Kağan=Hakan=Hahan=Khan=Han (All of them are the same meaning) Han = director- manager-leader Kohen = religious leader Kãhin= who directs us regarding the future (Mu-eun)=men/man= this one Kak-man=Kağ-man= kaoman=kaman=Xaman=Haman=Amon=the manager is this one=(commander) Çün=(chun)=factor ( Jiŋ= agency /being the agent/element of..) Ka=(Qua)= (which) U=(ou)= it (that) (Ka-u)= Ki=(Qui)=which that (Çün-ka-u) =Çünki =(parce que/ c'est-pour-quoi)=(that's why))=(therefore)= Because (U-çün)= İçün=için= (that factor..)= For.. (it's for) (Ne-u-çün)=Niçün=Niçin=(what-that-factor)= Why.. (what-for) for deriving new adjectives from nouns and adjectives Çün=factor ( Jiŋ= agency /being the agent/element of..) suffixes.. (Cı-ci-cu-cü) or (Çı-çi-çu-çü) = (jui / tchui ) Yaban =faraway/ out of center =Jaban (Jaban-jiŋ) Yabancı = (outsider)=foreign-er (ish-jiŋ)İşçi= work-er (Kapuğ-jın) Kapıcı=doorman Temür=Demir= Iron /ferrum (Temür-jin) Demirci=ironsmith (Temochin/ mongolian) gemici=sailor Tengiz=Deŋiz= Sea (Tchenggis/mongolian) (Tengiz-jin) Deŋizci=seaman

[@CelestialWolf246]

If we go way back in time, Proto- Turks, Mongols and Tungusic people all originally descend from Ancient Northeast Asians and thus they all have a common origin in todays South Siberia and Manchuria region. It is very likely that they once spoke a common ancestor language during ancient times which over time diverged in branches and evolved differently however we still dont have enough evidence to back this up. For now what we know is that Turks, just like Mongols and other northern nomad groups were a mongoloid group which later on migrated and moved further west where they intermixed with various Indo-European people forming the modern Turkic people of today who are racially mixed while those in Europe are barely asiatic anymore.

[@MauriFinnish]

Finnish,, Greeting from Finland

[@MauriFinnish]

My hablogroup is I-M253 , but hard is Russian

[@iremindongbudak355]

MauriFinnish East asians love Finland.

[@MauriFinnish]

Thank you !

[@kinhahaha7161]

greetings man!

[@omerdemir4931]

@Viking Pride vikings and kurdish are related you are both hairy bear

[@dwolfe2907]

Turkey and Koreans are blood brothers not simply because they came through during the war, but I've heard they are literally related to us in some distant past. Mongols and Koreans look strikingly similar to one another, although for some odd reasons Mongols detest being associated with Koreans. Japan is an island that was populated by the Joseon people, and they mixed with the Ainu's which eventually turned them into the Japanese we know today. We are related in many ways ,so our languages probably are too.

[@user-yp6wo5vd7v]

facts

[@5587bnnaaa]

터키와 몽골 한국은 조상이 같아요. 그러나 일본은 한국인이 넘어가서 필리핀,인도네시아, 동남아 민족이 섞인 사람이라 키가 작습니다.

[@jasonch5123]

I'm Mongolian and a native speaker. Studied Japanese for 2 years and it was definitely easier than any other other language I've ever tried learning, especially Russian. Back then, Russian was taught in Mongolia throughout middle and high school (6-8 years of it) and I think I was able to absorb way more Japanese in 2 years than Russian in 8 years. I've heard similar things from other Mongolians who learned Korean, Japanese and Turkish languages. These languages definitely come a little more natural for Mongolians when learning. I'm just curious. I'm sure languages play important roles in the study of history, but moving on, what difference will the fact whether they originate from the same roots make at this point linguistically? I feel like they're similar enough at least grammatically/structurally to just call them a family. Just an honest curiosity . Please don't be rude. ; )

[@masafumiikeda961]

grammer also does not proove anything. for example korean and dravidian are exremly similar even with over 5000 similar vocabulary. so it seems korean must be related to dravidian, but no one know. it is already sure that japanese is not related to mongolian or "altaic". look at proto-japanese. a japanese youtuber made a phonologic example of proto-japanese, it is very similar to southeast-asian/austronesian languages. also linguistsic recreation of proto-japanese show strong relations to southeast-asian langauges.

[@masafumiikeda961]

in 2015 a linguistic research programm grouped japanese(japonic) together with ainu and austroasiatic/austronesian into the austric macro-family. and the reconstructed proto-japanese shows many similarities to southeast-asian languages, especially austronesian(the formosan part). not only phonology. and genetics support aswell the austric theory. jomon y-DNA D2 (ancient asian found in japan, tibet and some in southeast-asia). yayoi y-DNA O2b and O3 (mostly baiyue, found in korea, japan, china, southeast-asia, polynesia, and some in madagascar).

[@dev_kuo190]

Masafumi Ikeda Jomon people came from middle Asia not Southeast Asia.

[@ChromeMan04]

@@dev_kuo190 they originated from Russia

[@Abeturk]

Deriving a new verb in turkish 1.(Der-mek= ~to set layout & to provide)=ter'kib & ter'tib etmek (used after the verbs which ending with a consonant) Verb+"Der" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (ter-tir-tür/der-dir-dür/er-ir-ür) Verb+"Dar" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (tar-tır-tur/dar-dır-dur/ar-ır-ur) (ak-mak>aktarmak)(bakmak>baktırmak)(almak>aldırmak)(çıkmak>çıkarmak)(kaçmak>kaçırmak) 2.(Et-mek = ~ to make) (mostly used after the verbs ending with a vowel sound and when the suffix "der" was used before) Verb+"T" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (t-it-üt) Verb+"T" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (t-ıt-ut) (ak-mak>akıtmak)(bakmak>bakıtmak)(yürümek>yürütmek)(yırmak>yırtmak)(öldürmek>öldürtmek) 3.(Eş=partner) (together or with partner)-(all together or altogether)-(each other or about each one) Verb+"Eş" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (eş-iş-üş) Verb+"Aş" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (aş-ış-uş) (gör-mek-görüşmek) (bulmak>buluşmak)(uğramak-uğraşmak) (çalmak-çalışmak) 4.(Al / El)= come to a state/a form through someone or something (to get being ...ed) Verb+"El" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (el-il-ül) Verb+"Al" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (al-ıl-ul) (it's used as N to shorten some verbs) (gör-mek-görülmek) (satmak>-satılmak)(vermek>verilmek)(yemek>yeyilmek/yenmek) 5."En"=own diameter(self environment)=(about own self) Verb+"En" is used as suffix for the subtle voiced words (en-in-ün) Verb+"An" is used as suffix for the thick voiced words (an-ın-un) (gör-mek>görünmek) (bulmak>bulunmak) (tıkamak>tıkanmak) (kıvırmak>kıvranmak) Mak/Mek...(emek)=exertion /process Git=Go (verb root) Git-mek= to go (the process of going) (Git-der-mek>gittirmek)=1.Götürmek= to take away (2. Gidermek=~to resolve) (Git-en-der-mek>gidindirmek)= Göndermek= to send Gel-mek= to come (Gel-der-mek>geltirmek)=Getirmek= to bring 1.Gelmek...2.Getirmek...3.Getirtmek...4.Getirttirmek..5.Getirttirtmek..and it's going so on Dür-mek= to roll it up (to make it becomes a roll) Dör-mek= to rotate on its axis ( törmek=old meaning)-(to stir it , to mix it(current meaning) (döngü)törüş/törüv=tour (törüv-çi=turqui)(tör-geş=turkish)=tourist...(törük halk=mixed people in ownself) (Tör-en-mek)>dörünmek= to rotate oneself /(2. to turn by oneself) (Törn-mek)>Dönmek= to turn oneself (Dön-der-mek)>döndürmek= to turn something (Dön-eş-mek)>dönüşmek= to turn (altogether) to something (Dön-eş-der-mek)>dönüştürmek= to convert/ to transform Yürü-mek= to go on (to walk) (Yürü-et-mek)>yürütmek= to make it go on (Yürü-et-der-mek)>yürüttürmek=to be provider ensuring it's going on simple wide tense for positive sentences Var-mak= to arrive (for the thick voiced words) (positive suffixes)=(Ar-ır-ur) Er-mek= to get (at) (for the subtle voiced words) (positive suffixes)=(Er-ir-ür) for negative sentences Ma=not Bas-mak= to dwell on /tread on (bas git= ~leave and go) Maz=(negativity suffix)=(ma-bas) =(No pass)=Na pas=not to dwell on > vaz geç= give up (for the thick voiced words) Ez-mek= to crush (ez geç= ~think nothing about) Mez=(negativity suffix)=(ma-ez) =(No crush)=doesn't > es geç = skip (for the subtle voiced words) Tan= the dawn Tanımak= to recognize (~to get the differences of) (Tanı-ma-bas)= tanımaz= ~doesn't recognize (Tanı-et-ma-bas)= tanıtmaz= doesn't make it get recognized (Tanı-en-ma-bas)= tanınmaz= doesn't inform about oneself (doesn't get known by any) (Tanı-eş-ma-bas)= tanışmaz= doesn't get known each other Tanışmak= to get to know each other =(~to meet first time) Danışmak= to get information from each other Uç=~ top point (Uç-mak)= to fly (Uç-a-var)= Uçar=it flies (arrives at flying) (Uç-ma-bas)= uçmaz= doesn't fly (~gives up flying) (Uç-der-ma-bas)=(uçturmaz)=uçurmaz= doesnt fly it (doesn't make it fly) (Uç-eş-ma-bas)=uçuşmaz= doesn't (all)together fly (Uç-al-ma-bas)=uçulmaz= doesn't get being flied Su=water (Suv)=fluent-flowing (suvu)=Sıvı=fluid, liquid Suv-mak=~ to make it flow onwards/upward (>sıvamak) Suy-mak=~ to make it flow over Süv-mek=~ to make it flow inwards Sür-mek=~ to make it flow on something Suv-up =liquefied=(soup) Sür-up(shurup)=syrup Suruppah(chorba)=soup Suruppat(sherbet)=sorbet sharap=wine mashrubat=beverage (Süp-mek)=~ to make it flow outwards (süp-der-mek>süptürmek)>süpürmek=to sweep Say-mak=~ to make it flow one by one (from the mind) = ~ to count ~ to deem (sayı=number) (bilgisayar=computer) Söy-mek=~ to make it flow from the mind (Söy-le-mek= to make the sentences flowing through the mind =~to say, ~to tell ) Sev-mek=~ to make it flow from the mind (to the heart) = to love Söv-mek=~ call names (to say whatever's on own mind) Süy-mek=~ to make it flow from inside (süyüt) =Süt= milk Soy-mak=~ to make it flow over it/him/her ( to peel, ~to strip, ~to rob ) (Soy-en-mak)>soyunmak=to undress (Sıy-der-mak)>sıyırmak= skimming, ~skinning Siy-mek=~ to make it flow downwards =to pee Siyitik>Sidik= urine Süz-mek=~ to make it lightly flow from up to downwards (~to filter, strain out) Sez-mek=~ to make it lightly flow into the mind (~to perceive, to intuit) Sız-mak=~ to get flowed slightly/slowly (~to infiltrate) Sun-mak= to extend it forwards (presentation, exhibition, to serve up) Sün-mek=to expand reaching outwards (sünger=sponge) Sın-mak=to reach by extending upwards or forwards Sin-mek=to shrink (oneself) by getting down or back (to lurk, to hide onself) Sön-mek=to get decreased by getting out or in oneself (to be extinguished) Sağ-mak= ~ to make it's poured down (Sağanak=downpour) (sağ-en-mak)>sağınmak=~ to make oneself poured from thought into emotions (Sağn-mak)>San-mak= ~ to make it pour from thought to idea (to arrive at the idea) Sav-mak=~ to make it pour outwards (2.>put forward- set forth in) (sağan)=Sahan=the container to pour water (Sav-der-mak)>(savdurmak)> savurmak (Sav-der-al-mak)>(savurulmak)> savrulmak=to get scattered/driven away (Sav-en-mak)>savunmak=to defend (Sav-en-al-mak)>savunulmak=to get being defended (Sav-eş-mak)1.>savaşmak=to pour blood / to shed each other's blood (savaş= the war) 2.savuşmak=to get spilled around.(altogether-downright)=(sıvışmak=~running away in fear) (Sav-eş-der-mak)1.>savaştırmak=(~to make them fight each other)2.>savuşturmak =(ward off-fend off) Sürmek = ~ to make it flow on something (Sür-e--er)= sürer = lasts /gets go on /drives / spreads on (Sür-der-mek)> sürdürmek= to make it continue (~to sustain) (Sür-der-e--er)= sürdürür = makes it last forwards ,(makes it continue) (Sür-ma-ez)= sürmez = doesn't drive / gives up fllowing on / skips the spread of (Sür-der-ma-ez)= sürdürmez =doesn't make it go on (doesn't make it continue) (Sür-al-ma-ez)= sürülmez =doesnt get driven by any.. (2.doesnt get followed by any) Sür-en-mek> sürünmek= (~to makeup) (~rides odor) (~to paint oneself) Sürü-mek= to take it away forward / backward on the floor (Sürü-e--er)=sürür=takes it away forward (Sürü-et-mek)=(sürütmek) sürtmek=~to rub (Sürü-al-mek)=2.sürülmek=to get expelled (Sürü-en-mek)=2.sürünmek=to creep on (Sürü-en--der-mek)=süründürmek=~to make it's creeping on (Sürü-et-en-mek)=sürtünmek=to have a friction (Sürü-et--eş-mek)=sürtüşmek=to get rubbed each other (Gör-mek)=to see (Gör-e-er)=görür=(that) sees (Gör-ma-ez)=görmez= doesn't see (Gör-en-ma-ez)= görünmez= doesn't show oneself (doesn't seem) (Gör-al-ma-ez)= görülmez= doesn't get seen by any.. (Gör-eş-ma-ez)= görüşmez= doesn't get seen each other (Görs-der-ma-ez)>göstermez=(that) doesn't show (Görs)=(Khorus) Göz=Eye (Görs-et-mek)>görsetmek=to make it visible (Görs-der-mek)>göstermek=to show 1.(la/le = to make via)-~getting by means of ~to do through it -to make by this way ~getting with ) (used after the nouns and adjectives) (.le-mek-..la-mak) (.le-et-mek- .la-et-mak) (.le-et-der-mek-.la-et-der-mak) (.lemek-.lamak) (.letmek- .latmak) (.lettirmek-.lattırmak) Tıŋı= the tune (timbre) Tıŋı-la-mak= to get the sound out >(Tınlamak=~reacting /answering )(~to take heed of) Tıŋ-mak= to react vocally Tıngırdatmak=to try playing the musical instrument Tiŋi-le-mek=to get the sound in >(Dinlemek= to listen) Tiŋ-mek=to get at the silence >(Dinmek= to calm down / to get quiescent 2.(laş/leş =(ile-eş)= (to become equal with.) (to get the same) (used after the nouns and adjectives) (.leşmek-.laşmak.) (.leştirmek-.laştırmak) (.leştirtmek- .laştırtmak) 3.(lan/len =(ile-en)= (to become with)- (to get like this )(to have -this way.) (used after the nouns and adjectives) (.lenmek-.lanmak.) (.lendirmek-.landımak) (.lendirtmek- .landırtmak) by reiterations (Parıl Parıl) parıl-da-mak= to gleam (Kıpır Kıpır) kıpır-da-mak (Kımıl Kımıl) kımıl-da-mak by colors Ak= white Ağar-mak = to turn to white Kara= black Karar-mak=to become blackened Kızıl= red Kızar-mak= to turn red (to blush) (to be toasted) by a whim or a want Su-sa-mak= to thirst Kanık-sa-mak öhö-tsu-ur (öksür-mek)=to cough tüh-tsu-ur (tüksür-mek/tükürmek)=to spit out tıh-tsu-ur (tıksır-mak) hak-tsu-ur (aksır-mak) hap-tsu-ur (hapşur-mak)=to sneeze

[@jojomythe]

To be honest, to my ears korean and turkish don’t sound that similar, but i had asked my turkish friends how to say some sentences and the order of how sentence structures were laid were similar to korean. I feel that words can more easily replaced by outside influences, whereas syntax is harder to get changed

[@cemyildiz7842]

I am not a linguist, but as a Turkish person, I was even surprised in Estonia. For infinitive case, Estonians put -ma suffix, and we Turks put -mak or -mek, or even putting -ma or -me also makes verbs infinitive. In Estonian they say Olema and we Turks say Olmak which means to be, a very basic word or a language. Mina or Ma means I in Estonian, Ben (or Men in Azeribaijani dialect) means I in Turkish. Sina or Sa means "You" in Estonian, Sen in Turkish. Unustama = Unutmak (To forget) Kuule means to hear in Estonian, Kulak means ears in Turkish. I don't know Estonian but I guess there should be much more similarities between Turkish and that Uralic language. Beside that, Võru dialect of Estonian has a vowel harmony just like in Turkish. Other interesting detail is the letter õ of Estonian is the same with Turkish letter ı. I also sometimes watch Korean movies, I am far to Korean, but it sometimes make me fell like our languages sound similar.

[@karensastclair4872]

Cem Yıldız I also thought that. My schoolfriend is Korean descent so I was used to hearing it a lot although I didn't pick much up. I married a Turkish guy and I was struck how similar the two languages sounded to me. My husband also said that Turks and Koreans are blood brothers, he said they had empires next to each other (gokturk + 3 kingdoms) and had problems with the Chinese to the south. Not sure if that's true because he talks a lot of crap at times 😉

[@이준성-y8m]

korean and turks are not genetically related. the term "blood brother" is because of the help in korean war. and we also was enemy to turks. one day a ally next day a enemy. same with chinese. and korean langauge is not related to turkish/turkic. this theory is seen as discredited.

[@EnderEraydn]

I KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE... YOU ARE A RUSSİAN... WE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE UP TO...

[@cemyildiz7842]

이준성 that's right, we Turks and Koreans are not relatives. Just like Mongolians and Chinese people, we have fight against each others in our history. But somewhere in prehistory, I beleive that Uralic people, Turks and Koreans should have connection. And todays Turks in Anatolia are even genetically far to Turkic people's of Asia.

[@EnderEraydn]

Herifi çok fazla ciddiye alma Cem.... Bu herif Koreli değil...

[@nataliekonutgan5591]

I speak Tukish and have heard these arguments before. My contact with Japanese, Korean and a few days of Finnish make me feel like there must be a relationship. Good video. Thanks!

[@kohati7512]

They belong to Altaic family

[@夜行者-s2x]

Origin of Koreans: Korea C12.9 D2.5 N3.8 O1a 3.1 O1b 33.4 O2 42.1 Q1.8 In the case of East Asian Y-DNA, it was already mutated from NO to N, O2, O1, O1a, O1b1, O1b2, etc. from 30,000 years ago, during the Ice Age. The tribes could be viewed as being of the same genetic group. Each of these gene groups walked through Sundaland and moved to various places such as East Asia, Southeast Asia, and Siberia to settle there. The gene that arrived on the Korean Peninsula about 20,000 years ago was O1b2. As the Ice Age ended 10,000 years ago and the Neolithic Age began, sea levels rose due to the melting glacier and the Yellow Sea was created, and O1b2 was isolated on the Korean Peninsula. This theory is supported by recently excavated bones from Gadeokdo(가덕도, 加德島) in South Korea. They turned out to be 7000 years old, and were found to be O1b2. Around 2000 BC, O1b2a2 and O1b2a1 were mutated from O1b2 in south-east part of South Korea. Around 1000 BC, for some reason a part of the O1b2a1 group migrated to Japan (first Yayoi migration), where the population increased over hundreds of years. Around 200 BC, lots of Dongyi people from the north (Gojoseon, O2) migrated to southern part of K peninsula and founded a nation (Mahan). [Evidence: According to [後漢書], “King Jun of Joseon(Gojoseon) was defeated by Weiman, and led the remaining thousands of people through the sea, attacked Mahan, defeated Mahan, and established himself as the king of Han(韓).” According to [三國志], “With every dawn, many refugees flowed into Mahan's homeland, and Mahan was founded.”] Those migrated Dongyi (O2) mixed with the natives (O1b2). From that time, many peoples (O1b2 + O2) of K peninsula have begun to migrate to Japan (second Yayoi migration) until 660 AD when Baekjae was destroyed. Then, Qin migrants (O2) arrived in K peninsula and found a nation (Jinhan). [Evidence: According to [魏書 東夷傳, 後漢書], “Jinhan (辰韓) people were refugees from Qin (秦) to avoid hard labor (苦役), and Mahan allocated the eastern border (Jinhan).” According to [三國遺事], “辰韓(Jinhan) is also called 秦韓.”] Then, after AD, another northern Dongyi (Buyeo, O2 + C2) arrived in K peninsula and founded Goguryo and Baekje. [Evidence: According to [魏書 東夷傳], “Goguryeo was an another kind of Buyeo.” According to [後漢書], “Baekje was an another kind of Buyeo.”] That's why modern Koreans have O2(45%, Dongyi migrants from the north), O1b2(35% ~ 40%, natives), C(15%, migrants from the north). However, in Japan, the first Yayoi migrants were O1b2 and the second Yayoi migrants were (O1b2 + O2) (both from K peninsula). Thus, O1b2 population is two times higher than O2 (O2 arrived late on the K Peninsula). Yayoi migrants mixed with Jomon and became today’s Japanese.

[@miyako4506]

I've read somewhere, that in Tang Dynasty, a turkish princess married a korean prince, but i'm not sure if that's true. And also, that in the very past water was "su" in korea, then changed to "shu" and now its "mul". "Su" is now water in turkish. Correct me if i'm wrong pls, i've just read those somewhere 🙆‍♀️

[@tovarishchfeixiao]

Isn't Korean "su" just a borrowing from Chinese? Because Japanese also has a chinese borrowing in form of "sui" for water while the native word is "mizu".

[@taht-qrm6696]

i am Tatar polyglot i know Turkic branch ; 1. Tatar 2. Kazakh 3. Turkish 4. Azerbaijani 5. Uzbek 6. Kyrgyz 7. Karakalpak Indo European branch ; 1. English 2. Russian 3. Persian (still i am learning) I want to learn also ; 1. Korean 2. Japanese 3. Mongolian 4. Hungarian 5. Finnish (finland) 6. Uyghur 7. Turkmen 8. Arabic 9. Indian 10. Chinese 11. Bosnian 12. Serbian 13. Croatian 14. Polish 15. German 16. French 17. Esperanto 18. Volapük

[@AliVeli-gr4fb]

for about a year I am obsessed with etymology of Turkish words, now I can clearly say there is absolutely same proto language behind Turkish and Mongolian, it is absolutely mind-blowing. well it is already known of course but seeing is different

[@JonVonD]

I speak Turkish, Japanese, and Kazakh, I've studied Khalkha Mongolian and Xibe/Manchu, and done some research into Old Turkic, Qing-Era Manchu, and Old Mongolian, and done a little field research on Koryo-Saram Korean speakers in Kazakhstan. I really, really wanted to believe in Altaic at a point. Altaic is simply not a family. It's a nice dream, and it even helps unite some of these ethnicities, but it's just not a family like Slavic or Indo-European. Especially when you consider the time-depth for a language family like Turkic and Mongolic. We need more archeological research and hope to find some documentation, but it's just lacking the most important thing for language family relatedness - systematic sound correspondences (as you pointed out) IN THE OLDER LANGUAGES.

[@ThePolyglotFiles]

Me too! It would be so cool!

[@alexanderrossovitch2585]

If Altaic is not a language family, than Indo-European as a linguistic term should be considered obsolete. There is no comparison between English and Bulgarian, let alone English and Persian.

[@alexanderrossovitch2585]

***** The only one who is acting mentally defected here seems to be you. Can you somehow prove to me that Turkic languages are not related to Proto-Altaic? Altaic languages have covered a large landmass. I will research the connection between Old Norse, Old Avestan, and what you call 'Old Church Slavonic' myself. But people have the audacity to say Old Bulgarian was 'Old Church Slavonic' when the Cyrillic alphabet was created for non-Slavic Bulgarians. The Slavs only adopted Cyrillic when Kiril and Metodi came across the Slavic tribes further north.

[@JonVonD]

Купрат Хирешев cyrillic is an alphabet, not a language. Belarusian was written in Arabic, doesn't change that Old Church Slavonic is the oldest form of Slavic and the closest thing we have to Common Slavic. also, please feel free to look into Norse. Avestan, and OCS --- even better, consider modern Spanish, Greek, and Hindi. Today they're extremely divergent, but if you compare Latin, Ancient Greek, and Sanskrit (the trinity of IE) you'll see more similarities and not less. The same can not be said for Turkic, Mongolic, and Tungusic

[@emretosun4457]

John Doyle Wagner eger turkce anliyorsan banaa kanitla

[@ayşenurunefşanı]

Yes that is true. That is why ı learned korean almost in 2 mouths and also my brother learned japanese almost in half year fluently. Our native lang is Turkish and spekimg or listening Korean makes my mind relaxed in order to thinking in english's did. Korean and Turkish way of thinking almost same. Almost completely same reactions same attitudes same logic practical way of live we share.

[@kohati7512]

Because Korean, Japanese, Turkic, Tungusic have the same root. They are Altaic.

[@sarscov-2942]

As a Turkish person who lived in Korea for 2 years, it only took me around 1 year to achieve fluency while it was pain in the ass for native English speakers. I also have studied some Japanese, and it was super easy since I speak Korean. It is quite obvious that Korean and Japanese come from the same root, since the grammar is %95 the same except the vocabulary differences. As for Turkish, I think it not that related to Korean and Japanese except the grammatical similarities. Turkish people were a nomadic society; which caused so many different dialects to show up over time. In contrast, Korean and Japanese societies were more settled and under Chinese influence. Thus, Korean and Japanese has become much more grammatically-strict. Korean has many sentence endings, which have basically the same meaning but different emotional patterns. For example; 학교에 갔다 =I went to school (neutral) (hakkyoe gatta) 학교에 갔잖아 =I went to school(reproach) (hakkyoe gattjanha) 학교에 갔거든 =I went to school(reminding) (hakkyoe gattgodeun) The above sententeces all have the same translations but different emotional messeages through the sentence endings. However, in Turkish, you can basically say the same santence in only one way with different intonations to give that emotional messages. Okula gittim = I went to school I think these are there main things what separates Japanese and Korean apart from Altaic languages.

[@kohati7512]

It's because Turkic languages and Japanese, Korean belong to the same language family, Altaic.

[@sarscov-2942]

@@kohati7512 I was trying to say even if Turkic languages and Japanese/Korean are similar up to some degree, they are still quite different. Japanese and Korean are obviously in the same family, but I don't think they are Altaic

[@kohati7512]

@@sarscov-2942 The difference between Turkic languages and Japanese is comparable to English and Russian. They belong to the same family but still there is a vast difference between them. It's not all of the sudden that Japanese, Korean and Turkic languages get classified into Altaic family. The similarity between Altaic languages such as Japanese, Tungusic, Turkic languages is not a coincidence.

[@sarscov-2942]

Of course the similarities are not coincidence. They all are Asian languages after all. But Turkic languages are more Middle Asian while Korean/Japanese are East Asian. The structures may have some similarities but they all have the different characteristics of the regions they are belong to. Similarities are probably coming from their influence on each other just like the similarities between English and French.

[@kohati7512]

Being Asian languages does not make Turkic languages similar to Japanese/Korean. Chinese, Burmese, Hindi are also Asian languages but bear no similarity to Turkic languages.

[@ykmtjtyjm]

Japanese-Korean-Turkish language group traced to farmers in ancient China 9000 years ago so yeah they are related.

[@NurcanKurt]

I am turkish and i have a friend who is turkish too and she learned a little bit of japanese and now started to learn korean. She said that Korean is very similar to our turkish gramma, more than japanese. And since we both live in germany we would know or at least understand the diffrences between the indogermanic and altaic lanugauges. I unfortuanetly dont know what it takes to be a language family, but at least it seems like turkish and korean should somehow be related. I unfortuanetly never had the chance to talk to a mongolian person to say something about the similarities between them.

[@magzhantursunbayev8534]

My native language is Kazakh. And I have been learning Japanese for the last recent times. The grammar of Japanese is super easy for me both structurally and logically. Because Kazakh language shares the same features. The hardest part is Kanji only.

[@09kn09]

Hi! As a Turkish speaker I guess I may favor the idea of our Japanese teacher who thinks Altaic and Japanese, all arose from a single language but later each one evolved in their modern form. According to him as a native Japanese speaker Mongolian bore the influences of much exposure to Chinese, Japanese couldn't keep up with mainland, and what he said was because Turkish language was kinda 'autocephalous' one - maybe he wanted to say the savage one - it sustained its proto form with much success... Well, he was an academician, he told to class that Modern Turkish was the most faithful one to its primitive form among widely spoken languages around world. I have no academic background on such subjects. Again with an indescribable motive I feel like there's a bond btw Altaic languages and Korean and Japanese language as well as Uralic relatives in macro sense. There may be a time when they were in close touch it seems to me. How to say it, as a native speaker I feel shocked every time seeing how easily Japanese and Korean speakers can mask themselves among Turkish speakers (for example when they visit Turkey as tourists) while English, Arabic, German, or Russian, even Greek, and Farsi (I'd count Kurdish within Farsi) just roar like 'hellooo! I'm totally foreigner in here!'. I can't say I was feeding feelings towards Japanese traditions or K-pop or anything like those particularly. Yet the fact that I learned Japanese in a three months term (Kanji characters make it no less easier) where English ate up all my three years makes sense with what Sensei told us. By the way never I did say Japanese or Korean ppl and Turks have common ancestors, shared genetic or anything like that. Talking about just lingual logic.

[@jkim76]

I don't think you are wrong there. As a korean, I was taught that Koreans migrated from Ural region through northern pass if I remember correctly from my elementary school history class. We believe Korean language belongs to Altaic group.

[@esrefatas]

I have done language swapping with my Japanese friend and we both surprised about how similar Turkish and Japanese, it's not only grammar also some words and rituals indicates some common background

[@Mongolian_Lhagvasuren]

as a Mongolian myself Japanese, Korean, and Turkic languages are much easier to learn compared to say English or Russian it just feels more natural and also Mongolians and Turkic Languages share Mutually understandable words like Gold, Sea, Sky, Cow, Milk, Year Black, Flower and Heart, Ice, Nation, Lion, Iron, Apple blah blah blah to the point some sentences I had no problem understanding like the sentence "Demir Aslan, Altın Ulus'ta Kara yılda doğar" after a few seconds i realized it said Төмөр арслан Алтан улсад хар жилд төрсөн. In Latin alphabet its "Tömör arslan Altan Ulsad khar jild törsön"

[@TarihFanKanali]

Tür=species /descendent Türe(mek)=(to) derive /to descende Öd Tengri yaşar , kişi oğlu ölgeli türemiş=God lives the time (God is immortal), people are borned as mortal. (Turkish Text from 8th century).

[@Mongolian_Lhagvasuren]

@@TarihFanKanali i understood most of that

[@PimsleurTurkishLessons]

@@Mongolian_Lhagvasuren Linguists' opinions on Turkish Grammar Receiving the Babylonian World Award, Belgium's Ghent University Center for Eastern Languages and Cultures, Dr. Johann Van De Walle explains why he is interested in Turkish today: “Turkish can be learned in a very short time. The rules in chess are logical, simple and few in number. Even a seven-year-old can learn to play chess. Despite this convenience, the person playing chess does not get bored throughout his life. The game possibilities are endless. It is a very magical feature that the same situation exists in the Turkish grammar system. Turkish grammar is a language that has a regular and unexceptional character almost as much as mathematics. Prof. David Cuthell : “I know many foreign languages. Among these languages, Turkish is such a different language that it is as if a hundred high mathematics professors came together to create Turkish. A dozen words are produced from one root. Turkish is such a language that it is a language of emotion, thought, logic and philosophy in itself.” Max Müller “Even reading a Turkish grammar is a real pleasure, even if he hasn’t had the slightest desire to speak and write Turkish. Those who hear the skillful style in the mods, the compliance with the rules that dominate all the shots, the transparency seen throughout the productions, the marvelous power of the human intelligence that shines in the language will not fail to be amazed. This is such a grammar that we can watch the inner formations of thought in it, just as we can watch the formation of honeycombs in a crystal… The grammatical rules of the Turkish language are so orderly and flawless that a committee of linguists, an academy, approves this language. It is possible to think that it is a language made with consciousness. Prof. Dr. Johan Vandewalle;, now I have learned about 50 languages ​​. After learning languages ​​with very different systems, the language that I still admire the most, the language that I find most logical and mathematical is Turkish.” Paul Roux: "Turkish is a mathematical language full of thought and intellect." *Moliere: "Turkish is language to be admired; you can express a great deal by a few words." *French Turcologist Jean Deny : "The Turkish language suggests that it was formed as a result of the consultation and discussion of an elite committee of scholars. Turkish verbs have such a peculiarity that they cannot be found in any of the Arian languages. This feature is the power to form new words with affixes”. Jean Deny *Herbert W. Duda:“Turkish, which expresses all thoughts and feelings in the most perfect way, has such a rich vocabulary that everyone admires this language and accepts it as the most perfect scientific language.'”. *Herbert Jansky: “Turkish language is an extremely rich and easy-to-understand, easy-to-learn scientific language in terms of vocabulary, phonetics, orthography, syntax and vocabulary.” johan Vandewalle “…I think that a native Turkish speaker thinks in short sentences, and when speaking, he builds complex structures by connecting these short sentences in various ways. This "tendency to connect sentences" can be weak in some speakers, and strong in others, almost to the extent of a disease. The linguistic structures that emerged in this last situation reflect the superior possibilities of the human mind in the best way. Although I have studied many languages ​​belonging to different language groups, I can say that I have never come across a structure that fascinates me as much as complex sentence structures in Turkish. If you let me be a little sentimental, I sometimes say to myself, “I wish Chomsky had learned Turkish when he was younger too…”. I'm sure then modern linguistics would have been shaped according to Turkish, not English…” page 257 (261 in pdf) in book (The Science of Language by Max Müller in 1861) It is a real pleasure to read a Turkish grammar, even though one may have no wish to acquire it practically. The ingenious manner in which the numerous grammatical forms are brought out, the regularity which pervades the system of declension and conjugation, the transparency and intelligibility of the whole structure, must strike all who have a sense of that wonderful power of the human mind which has displayed itself in language. Given so small a number of graphic and demonstrative roots as would hardly suffice to express the commonest wants of human beings, to produce an instrument that shall render the faintest shades of feeling and thought;-given a vague infinitive or a stern imperative, to derive from it such moods as an optative or subjunctive, and tenses as an aorist or paulo-post future;-given incoherent utterances, to arrange them into a system where all is uniform and regular, all combined and harmonious;-such is the work of the human mind which we see realized in “language.” But in most languages nothing of this early process remains visible. They stand before us like solid rocks, and the microscope of the philologist alone can reveal the remains of organic life with which they are built up. In the grammar of the Turkic languages, on the contrary, we have before us a language of perfectly transparent structure, and a grammar the inner workings of which we can study, as if watching the building of cells in a crystal bee-hive. An eminent orientalist remarked “we might imagine Turkish to be the result of the deliberations of some eminent society of learned men;” but no such society could have devised what the mind of man produced, left to itself in the steppes of Tatary, and guided only by its innate laws, or by an instinctive power as wonderful as any within the realm of nature. *page 260 (264 in pdf). there is one feature so peculiar to the Turkish verb, that no analogy can be found in any of the Aryan languages-the power of producing new verbal bases by the mere addition of certain letters, which give to every verb a negative, or causative, or reflexive, or reciprocal meaning Sev-mek, for instance, as a simple root, means to love. By adding in, we obtain a reflexive verb, sev-in-mek, which means to love oneself, or rather, to rejoice, to be happy. This may now be conjugated through all moods and tenses, sevin being in every respect equal to a new root. By adding ish we form a reciprocal verb, sev-iş-mek, to love one another. To each of these three forms a causative sense may be imparted by the addition of the syllable dir. Thus, I. sev-mek, to love, becomes IV. sev-dir-mek, to cause to love. II. sev-in-mek, to rejoice, becomes V. sev-in-dir-mek, to cause to rejoice.

[@TarihFanKanali]

(some Turkish stone texts in 732) Tengri küç birtük üçün kangım kağan süsi böri teg ermiş, yağısı koriy teg ermiş. Because God gave strength, my king father's soldier was like a wolf, and his enemy was like a sheep. ---- Türk budun atı küsi yok bolmazun tiyin, Türk budun üçün tün udımadım. Küntüz olurmadım. İnim Kül Tigin birle ölü yitü kazğandım. For Turkish nation, I did not sleep at night, I did not sit during the day so that the name of the Turkish nation would not disappear. I won with great difficulty with (help of) my younger brother Kül Tigin. -- Tengri Türk budun yok bolmazun tiyin budun bolçun tiyin kangım İltirş kağanıg ögüm İlbilge Katunug yügerü kötürti .” God took my father İltiriş king and my mother İlbilge queen up (blessed them with kingdom/khaghanate) so that the Turkish nation would not perish and so that the nation could become a nation.

[@PimsleurTurkishLessons]

@@Mongolian_Lhagvasuren Altyngül= Altın gül = Golden rose (it seems me like this. i m sure with Altın but not with gül, in google translate it says different.) Also Tengiz is Deniz Turkish word. but Dalai means sea in Mongolian. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZ29goWhpp2ZfMk Introduction to Turkish (General Features and Grammar)

[@AzrentheLanguageNerd]

So long story short, these may or may not be related, HOWEVER they do share quite a few similarities regardless. That was my big take-away in this video :)

[@ThePolyglotFiles]

That's pretty good summary :p Hope you have a great new year!

[@AzrentheLanguageNerd]

The Polyglot Files same to you :)

[@NJP-4402]

As a learner of Japanese and a fluent Mongolian speaker, I can attest to the vast similarities between both

[@BatuHanAltai]

Love my altaic language❤️

[@omerpasa3328]

nerelisin kardeş?

[@BatuHanAltai]

Türküm

[@omerpasa3328]

kardeş onu bende anladım nerenin türküsün mesela ben anadolu türküyüm.

[@BatuHanAltai]

ÖmerPaşa bende anadolu türküyüm kardes

[@nitro5247]

Scheise Scheise like you

[@rbalsdldiify]

I, personally, dont support Altaic family hypothesis due to lack of evidences. But I do think Turkish, Mongolian, and Korean is related and affected each other in someways in ancient times. For example, there was a ancient Korean kingdom named Silla which eventually unified Korean peninsular. Their kings wore a golden crowns and refered themselves as "Kosokhan" or "Malikhan" which resembles with Scythian and Partian customs of gold crown and calling their ruler "Khan". No other kingdoms near them had such a traditions.

[@ChromeMan04]

None of those people are genetically related and Scythians and Parthains weren’t Turks.

[@Abeturk]

Tan= the dawn Tanımak= to recognize (~to get the differences of) (Tanı-ma-bas)= tanımaz= ~doesn't recognize (Tanı-et-ma-bas)= tanıtmaz= doesn't make it get recognized (Tanı-en-ma-bas)= tanınmaz= doesn't inform about oneself (doesn't get known by any) (Tanı-eş-ma-bas)= tanışmaz= doesn't get known each other Tanışmak= to get to know each other =(~to meet first time) Danışmak= to get information from each other Uç=~ top point (Uç-mak)= to fly (Uç-a-var)= Uçar=it flies (arrives at flying) (Uç-ma-bas)= uçmaz= doesn't fly (~gives up flying) (Uç-der-ma-bas)=(uçturmaz)=uçurmaz= doesnt fly it (doesn't make it fly) (Uç-eş-ma-bas)=uçuşmaz= doesn't (all)together fly (Uç-al-ma-bas)=uçulmaz= doesn't get being flied Su=water (Suv)=fluent-flowing (suvu)=Sıvı=fluid, liquid Suv-mak=~ to make it flow onwards/upward (>sıvamak) Suy-mak=~ to make it flow over Süv-mek=~ to make it flow inwards Sür-mek=~ to make it flow on something Suv-up =liquefied=(soup) Sür-up(shurup)=syrup Suruppah(chorba)=soup Suruppat(sherbet)=sorbet sharap=wine mashrubat=beverage (Süp-mek)=~ to make it flow outwards (süp-der-mek>süptürmek)>süpürmek=to sweep Say-mak=~ to make it flow one by one (from the mind) = ~ to count ~ to deem (sayı=number) (bilgisayar=computer) Söy-mek=~ to make it flow from the mind (Söy-le-mek= to make the sentences flowing through the mind =~to say, ~to tell ) Sev-mek=~ to make it flow from the mind (to the heart) = to love Söv-mek=~ call names (to say whatever's on own mind) Süy-mek=~ to make it flow from inside (süyüt) =Süt= milk Soy-mak=~ to make it flow over it/him/her ( to peel, ~to strip, ~to rob ) (Soy-en-mak)>soyunmak=to undress (Sıy-der-mak)>sıyırmak= skimming, ~skinning Siy-mek=~ to make it flow downwards =to pee Siyitik>Sidik= urine Süz-mek=~ to make it lightly flow from up to downwards (~to filter, strain out) Sez-mek=~ to make it lightly flow into the mind (~to perceive, to intuit) Sız-mak=~ to get flowed slightly/slowly (~to infiltrate) Sun-mak= to extend it forwards (presentation, exhibition, to serve up) Sün-mek=to expand reaching outwards (sünger=sponge) Sın-mak=to reach by extending upwards or forwards Sin-mek=to shrink (oneself) by getting down or back (to lurk, to hide onself) Sön-mek=to get decreased by getting out or in oneself (to be extinguished) Sağ-mak= ~ to make it's poured down (Sağanak=downpour) (sağ-en-mak)>sağınmak=~ to make oneself poured from thought into emotions (Sağn-mak)>San-mak= ~ to make it pour from thought to idea (to arrive at the idea) Sav-mak=~ to make it pour outwards (2.>put forward- set forth in) (sağan)=Sahan=the container to pour water (Sav-der-mak)>(savdurmak)> savurmak (Sav-der-al-mak)>(savurulmak)> savrulmak=to get scattered/driven away (Sav-en-mak)>savunmak=to defend (Sav-en-al-mak)>savunulmak=to get being defended (Sav-eş-mak)1.>savaşmak=to pour blood / to shed each other's blood (savaş= the war) 2.savuşmak=to get spilled around.(altogether-downright)=(sıvışmak=~running away in fear)

[@waggonvalley2523]

similarity of Even[North Tungusic] and Korean water Even: mu Korean: mul lady Even: asi Korean: assi mother Even: engmi Korean: eomi sister Even: no Korean: nui teeth Even: it Korean: i clothes Even: oj Korean: ot have Even: ga-daj Korean: gat-da catch Even: jab-daj Korean: jab-da sweet Even: dalra Korean: dalda also Even: da Korean: do like [preposition] Even: -gaci [suffix] Korean: gati [postposition] noun+s [plural] Even: noun+l Korean: noun+dl closely [prefix] Even: daga- [ex] daga-m-daj [come closely] Korean: daga- [ex] daga-o-da [come closely] question suffix Even: -gu? Korea: -gga? gerund suffix Even: -ke [ex] ebi-ke [playing] Korean: -gi [ex] nol-gi [playing] verb suffix Even: -daj/-dej [ex] ha-daj [know], bo-daj [give], em-dej [come], ebi-dej [play] Korean: -da [ex] al-da [know], ju-da [give], o-da [come], nol-da [play] grammatical words of Even like gerund suffix and verb suffix are significant because the similar patterns apply to all verb words in Korean.

[@たみかみ-l6t]

Japanese, korean, turkic, mongolic, tungusic are the same language

[@kohati7512]

Japanese are related to Turkic and Tungusic, a.k.a Altaic language family.

[@yourlocalfairyhere]

Honestly I never even thought about these languages being somehow related, until I actually learned Korean and realized if it wasn’t for my mother tongue turkish, that I wouldn’t have learned it easier than other people ! After I realized how different, but similar the language sometimes seems I also started seeing similarities in culture and I just thought there needs to be something that binds these languages so I truly want to believe in the Altaic language family ! Also to add I know for a fact that Turkish speakers also are comfortable with learning Japanese !

[@BackUp-o5x]

Long live Altaic Family

[@element4element4]

It's sadly already dead.

[@kohati7512]

@@element4element4 Fuck you Vietnamese troll

[@DoctorDeath147]

@@kohati7512 triggered

[@DoctorDeath147]

@@element4element4 good riddance

[@element4element4]

@@kohati7512 Vietnamese...? What?

[@혼고르졸]

I'm mongolian and i can speak korean. It's was pretty easy to learn...kinda cool lol

[@kohati7512]

Mongolian, Korean, Tungusic (Manchurian) have the same origin. That's called Altaic

[@djtokki1487]

Koreans from China

[@djtokki1487]

Mongolians Siberian people same

[@tonydoyoonjeong8637]

We are all one human guys... why are we all fighting and arguing about their family root? We are all HUMANS!

[@movingdragons]

Absolutely... Altaic is a fact. First time I heard Mongolian.. I jumped up and said, "That sounds just like Korean".

[@justrandomthings709]

😂😂 ok I heard both language but they sound very different

[@numdd4717]

@@justrandomthings709 It's different when you actually speak these languages, there really is a certain logic behind all of them, this is why often people discrediting are not native speakers XD and it's annoying

[@sminsmin3456]

As a language enthusiast I gathered up some ‘cognate-looking’ vocabulary from Korean and Japanese (Old Korean reconstructions are based on Ito Chiyuki’s proposal on Old Korean phonology and tonal reconstruction by Alexander Vovin) and it’s kinda interesting. Meaning / Old Korean / Old Japanese Water / mïlu / midu Island / sema / sima Bear / koma / kuma Bee / päli / pati Crab / käni / kani One; beginning / pilos- / pita God / kämi / kami Up; rise / ukï- / oko- Whale / kolai / kudira Pebble; accessories / kosïrV / kusiro plural particle / -tëli / -tati Field / përV / para Breast / tsetsi / titi to burn / tak- / dak- so basically I guess Korean preserves more ‘types’ of vowels while Japanese preserves more ‘number’ of vowels. Korean has developed l and ts consonants probably both originating from t or d respectively. These cognates cannot be the reason for the two languages being the same language family though, because borrowings occur all the time, and almost no other vocabulary is cognate apart from the above list. So I think there are a few possibilities: Theory 1) Koreanic and Japonic were prehistorically ‘Proto Japano-Koreanic’ or ‘Proto Far Eastern’, located in probably present day Manchuria, Northern Korean peninsula or Liaodong peninsula. Then the language got seperated into North / Southern, while the southern proto far eastern language got mixed with some paleoasian language or austronesian. Southern Proto Far Eastern again seperated into Peninsular and Insular. The Peninsular one again mixed with the Northern Proto Far Eastern and became the Proto Koreanic language, and the Insular one again mixed with Ainu(?) languages and formed the Proto Japonic language. Theory 2) Proto Koreanic and Proto Japonic existed seperately, but due to a certain proto peninsular language which existed in the modern day Korean peninsula, some vocabulary was shared, which had cognative qualities Theory 3) Proto Koreanic and Proto Japonic existed seperately, but due to some borrowings in a certain period in time, vowels and consonants seem to match each other like cognates. Welp, those are just my thoughts. I’m not a linguist so don’t entirely believe me, although I wish you to find the cognates ‘interesting’ just like I did.

[@5587bnnaaa]

곰은 일본어로 kuma 입니다. 일본에서는 고구려를 goma라고 합니다. 그런데 한국은 단군신화에서 (탱그리) 천신과 웅녀( 곰여자)가 단군(탱그리)를 낳았다고 합니다. 그래서 일본에서는 신이 kami죠. 특히나 고구려와 뿌리가 같은 한국 민족의 백제같은 경우는 수도가 웅/진(woong / jin)인데 woong이 곰, kuma입니다.

[@johnpark2986]

Korean and Japanese Language are very similar. 60-70% of words in both languages are replaced by Chinese. But, in terms of Grammar and sentence structure, I do believe both languages are related to Altaic language. That is why Altaic people are easy to learn Korean or Japanese.

[@assmaniac]

Turkish is my native language, and my best friend is Japanese. Our languages have basically the same "thinking style" with the literal meaning of words, vocab, phonics, etc. (which does make it easier to learn japanese turkish) but I don't think they are related. Japanese has many more differences than similarities to Turkish as far as I know, and I can't truly see them coming from a common ancestor.

[@dna8814]

Japanese is not a Altaic language! Japanese is in the japonic family. Japonic family is "isolated" but most japanese linguists say it is Para-Austronesian and part of the Austric language family. in 2016 education books of japan, the para-austronesian classification is accepted by most linguists. 2015 the russian-japanese linguist vovin alexander reconstructed the morphology of proto-japanese. mophology is similar to southeast-asian languages and very different to northern or central-asian ones. in term of DNA and genetic we are not related to "altaic speakers". we are the admixture of the native jomon population and the yayoi immigrants. jomon are southeast-asian in origin, yayoi originated somewhere near the yangze-river area in southern china.

[@夜行者-s2x]

The Turkic people are believed to have originated in today Manchuria (northeastern China). They were partially agriculturalists but adopted a nomadic life. Than they started their journey to the West. (The Turkic migration). During and after the conquest of Central-Asia and some other places, they assimilated some of the locals (mostly Indo-Europeans/R1a). All Neo-Siberians have origins in Northeast Asia including Korea（hg K2a/NO+C）. They split from common ancestors from Northeast Asians before migrating to absorb Paleo-Siberians K2b/Q.R1a Turkic people Genetic marker =K（K2a+K2b）and C2b K2a（N1a+O2）+C2b/Proto-Altaic K2b（R1a z93+Q1）+C2b/ancient siberian Proto-Altaic =Turkic+Mongolic+Tungusic+Uralic languages/Yakut+Koreanic+Japonic/Ainu K2b/R1a+Q1→Mongolia C2b→Bering Strait→Americas →Native American mtDNA=ABCD Mongolian=53.8％C2+10.8％O2+10.8％N1+4.6%P* (xQ,R)+9.2%R1a K2a/NO，Origin: mainland China, Indochina 1，N1+O2→Manchuria C2e/C1a1→Liao River Civilization 2，N1+O2→Mongolia，Manchuria C2b→Mongolian+Southern Tungusic 3，Manchuria O2+C2e/C1a1→Korean Peninsula→Goguryeo Koreans=Samhan+Goguryeo Korean = 20%-37%O1b2+(40%O2 +15%C2) 4，D1→ Manchuria C1a1/C2e→ Hokkaido →Jomon/Ainu Northeast Japan C12.5 + D 87.5 = 100% 5，Korean Peninsula O1b2+O2→ Yayoi people Janpanese=Jomon+Yayoi Janpanese=35-40%D1+(30%-35%O1b2+15-20%O2) 6，Proto Altaic NC→Siberia→Ugric/Northern Tungusic/Paleo-Siberian Second migration 1，Mongolia C2N1O2→Central Asia/Indo-European/R1aJ=Eurasian/The modern Turkic people 2，N1a→Siberia → Eastern Europe/Northern Europe=Tatars N+R1a (R-M458)，Finnish N+I，some Slavs R1a (R-M458) I2+N：Latvians，Estonians，Baltic 3，The modern Turkic people→Middle East /JGER1b=Anatonian Turks K2a→NO→O→O1+O2→O1a+O1b1+O1b2+O2 O1 Liangzhu/Hemudu culture Fujian O1a→Taiwan→Philippines→Oceania→ Austronesian O1a+C1b O1a，O1b1→Tai-Kadai/Baiyue people→Laos,Thailand O1b1→natives of Southeast Asia O1b2→Korean/Samhan Sino-Tibetan O2+D1a1 O2 → Qinghai → Tibet → Tibetan (aborigines D1a1 + O2) O2→Qinghai → Northern China → Han people/O2a2b+O2a2a → Manchuria/Dong yi people Y-chromosome haplogroup O2-M122 is a common DNA marker in Han Chinese, as it appeared in China in prehistoric times.Other Y-DNA haplogroups that have been found with notable frequency in samples of Han Chinese includ O1a 13,0% C- M217 12,0% N-M231 10,3% O1b 7,2% Q-M242 4,2% Tibetan=51.6% D + 33.9% O2 (M122) + 2.6% C-M217

[@lukatore123]

What brought me here is that I saw a Japanese guy talking English but with a Turkish accent. I am sure there is more than just a cultural contact troughout centuries.

[@derlinclaire1778]

Great discussion on the debate over whether the Altaic Languages are actually related to each other,friends.Kudos to the Young man giving this presentation.

[@u.iceman6598]

I think all languages are related and I think some languages are more related than others. I was watching a Korean drama one day and my mom was startled when she saw Koreans on the screen and said "wow I couldve sworn that sounded like Turkish for second" I have had similar reaction from my Grandma and other people around me that are Turkish. Fact is, you will never truly know how a language relates to another unless you are a native, since I am not talking about measurable things like grammar or similar words, but more regarding things that cannot be directly measured such as the vibe, intonation etc. completely different sounding languages yet they sound very similar at the same time Are they all directly related, I am not sure. Are they indirectly related? 100%

[@kimurahundoshi4485]

as a korean when I heard turkish,I thought it too it was really interesting 😂 sometimes turkish sound like korean for korean

[@duksoe]

The reason why Korean and Japanese are in its own isolated groups is because two languages are hybrids of Altaic and Tamil/Dravidian (Korean)and of Altaic and Polynesian (Japanese). Before the nomad group speaking Altaic language migrated to the Korean peninsular and Japanese islands, the southern people from India and Polynesian were already living in Korean peninsula and Japanese islands. they were using stoneware and were agricultural people. These ancient natives of Korean peninsula and Japanese islands were conquered by the nomad people having metal technology and speaking Altaic language. Korean and Japanese languages were formed as Altaic language was going through ancient pidginization and creolizaion by the native people of those regions, who eventually mingled with their conquerors. Both Korean and Japanese are very similar to each other in terms of grammar structure (very altaic) and and even some native vocabs. Interestingly Korean shares lots of etymology with Tamil regarding to aricultural terms,while Japanese shows strong Polynesian characteristics with respect to its phonology and some native etymology.

[@boatvoyage3925]

do not say your imagination. which nomad conquered korea? even mongol, strongest nomad, failed to conquer korea. in past, people believed korean C3 came from nomad. but now it is already well known that most nomadic groups are C3c but korean are C3e. so korean C3 did not come from nomad. the connection between nomadic groups and korean can be O3. some people say probably O3 spread from korea[O3 40%] to mongol[O3 20%], kazakh[O3 10%] and altai[O3 5%].

[@duksoe]

boatvoyage DNA story that you're talking about is meaningless. None of your DNA story is relevant to language and culture. Besides, there is no so called Korean DNA. Koreans are mixture of at least 4 different ancient ethnic groups. Among those groups, no one thought that they were so called " Korean" in the pre historic age. But one thing for sure is those who built Go-Choseon and bought the bronze technology and brought the word "dangun" are the descendants of nomad group migrated from Central Asia and Siberia.

[@morisoba2550]

I'm native Japanese. I know little about linguistic study but I know there were many Japanese living in the southern tip area of Korean Peninsula 2000 years ago. It's confirmed by Japanese historical records, archaeological study and DNA science. They had to have many language borrowings between ancient Japanese and ancient Korean there. When those Japanese people lost the war in 7th century, they migrated to Japanese mainland and brought lots of influence to the language in Japan. It seems natural to me that we can find similarity between Japanese and Korean language.

[@sorrynotsorry5466]

actually your japanese hypothesis have many supporter... japanese have around 1,500 similar cognates with all austronesian languages, also japanese have austronesian gene, one japanese linguist think japanese is austronesian that acquire an altaic grammar when huge wave of altaic speaking people migrated to japan... as for koreas relation to dravidian is much less accepted since korean have very small tamil gene, japanese also have more tamil gene than korean but having many similar korean tamil cognate also around 1,500 is still mystery

[@alexanderrossovitch2585]

Interesting.

[@doman362]

Conjugation of some verbs from Turkish, Korean, Mongolian and Japanese Language would make it clear that these languages are related or not. For example conjugation of verbs in Hebrew and Arabic shows clearly that these tow are closely related.

[@夜行者-s2x]

Origin of Japanese: Haplogroup D1a2 and C1a1 are suggested to have arrived into Japan during the prehistory of Japan, during the Jōmon period. D has its highest diversity within Tibeto-Burmese groups and the oldest D lineage was found im western Tibet and one sample in the Altai region. Y-DNA haplogroup D1, making up 40% of the Japanese male lineages Haplogroup D1a2a is found among the Ryukyuans as well as the Ainus, and is t hought to have been the dominant paternal lineage of the Jōmon people. K2a/NO During the Yayoi period, haplogroup O1b2+O2a started to arrive and spreaded to every region of Japan. Just over half of Japanese men belong to haplogroup O. The vast majority belong to O1b2, a lineage found especially in Manchuria, Korea and Japan, and O2a, the main Han Chinese paternal li neage. A negligible percentage of the Japanese belong to the O1a and O1b1 The O-M175 haplogroup origin were Yunnan-Burma border，and separated into 2 branch, O1 (O-F265) and O2 (O-M122) O2 - Sino-Tibetan O1=O1a+O1b O1a Austronesians. O1b1 Austroasiatics O1b2 moved to Korea/Samhan people Approximately 3% of Japanese men belong to haplogroup N, a lineage that is thought to have originated in China some 35,000 years ago It is found at low frequencies in Korea and could have arrived with the Yayoi people. Alternatively, N1 could also have entered Japan via Sakhalin and Hokkaido, as it is present among eastern Siberia tribes Haplogroup N1 was found at high frequency in Neolithic and Bronze Age remains (4500-700 BCE) from the West Liao River valley in Northeast China (Manchuria) by Yinqiu Cui et al. Haplogroup N1 is found especially among Uralic and Turkic peoples nowadays, including among the Finns, Estonians and Sami in Northeast Europe K2b/Q Haplogroup Q is the dominant lineage of Native Americans, but originated in Siberia. it is possible that the tiny fraction of Japanese Q lineages came with Yayoi farmers. It is unlikely to have entered Japan through Hokkaido as it is not found among tribes at the eastern extremity of Siberia, nor among the Ainus. In conclusion, approximately 43% to 48% of modern Japanese men carry a Y-chromosome of Jōmon origin. The highest proportions of Y-DNA haplogroup C and D is found in northern Japan (over 60%) and the lowest in Western Japan (25%). This is concordant with the history of Japan; the Yayoi people of Sino-Korean origins having settled first and most heavily in Kyushu and Chūgoku, in Western Japan Haplogroup C is another extremely old lineage that left Africa approximately 60,000 years ago and spread over most of Eurasia. Two subclades of C are found in Japan: C1a1 and C2a. The first group to separate was C1, which colonized the Middle East and South Asia. One branch (C1a ) may have moved north to Central Asia and then split in two: One tribe moved to Europe (haplogroup C1a2,C1a2 is now nearly extinct in Europe.), while the other migrated to East Asia and survives today only in Japan (C1a1). Haplogroup C2a, representing also 3% of the population, is typically found among the Mongols and Siberians. It might have come with the Ainu through Sakhalin island and Hokkaido, or along with the Yayoi farmers from Korea. The second branch of C1 spread into South Asia, Southwest Asia, and Central Asia, where it is found today at low frequencies (C1b1a1). During this time, other C strains continued their eastward migration into Southeast Asia, where they split into four main regional clusters: The first branch colonized Indonesia, Melanesia, Micronesia, and Polynesia (C1b2a). A second branch went south to Australia, where they became the Aborigines (C1b2b). Another settled in the highlands of New Guinea (haplogroup C-P55). The fourth branch went as far as Northeast Asia (haplogroup C-M217) and is now widespread mainly among the Mongols (Kalmyks, Buryats, and Oirats), the Turkic peoples of Central Asia (Kazakhs, Karakalpaks, Uzbeks, Dolgans), and the East Siberian tribes (Chukchi, Itelmen, Nivks, Tungus). Furthermore, it is also common in moderate amounts among Chinese (Han, Hui, Manchus), Koreans, but also among several indigenous peoples of North America, including some Na-Dené, Algonquian or Siouan-speaking populations.

[@5587bnnaaa]

그냥 한국인과 인도네시아-필리핀 혼혈임.

[@sminsmin3456]

in 3:49, only Korean has the 'n' ending. The reason is because 'n' is kinda like an adjective/adverb form. Similar usage to 'i' in 'kuroi' of japanese, or 'no' in japanese. Interestingly, the 'n' ending of Korean was probably spoken similar to 'no' in proto Korean or old korean, similar to the Japanese 'no'. and the reason why only Korean had 'k-m' type of consonants in 'black', is because in proto Korean, 'black' is 'kəmərə' so probably Koreans just took out the 'rə' part, while the others took out the 'mə' part.

[@Spino2Earth]

Greetings from Norway, i am trying to learn one of them, the Finnish language :)

[@Horusian]

is finnish similiar to these languages?

[@fmdmdeanon9955]

Finnish is uralic, not altaic.

[@Spino2Earth]

@@Horusian I don't really know but it would have been cool.

[@jungkyume]

Having learned Japanese and Manchurian, The grammars are all very reflective to each other.

[@user-pj2ph1bm1p]

When i pay attention while someone is speaking Korean i can hear that the accent on the words or some of them sound really close to the way the turkish accent sounds when i hear my grandparents talking

[@lvc1361]

Kazakh: *** -ge ketti Japanese: *** -e itta

[@cengizhan3549]

Turkish -e gitti

[@sarscov-2942]

Korean -e gatta

[@NoSupports]

in russian идти idti :D

[@trafkgaming7604]

@@NoSupports what is "идти" xd?

[@NoSupports]

@@trafkgaming7604 idti na xuy dan biliyorum ... nın dikine git demek gibi birşey

[@filmlovepenguin4315]

For me, native Turkish speaker, it was much easier to learn Korean compared to many fellow students who were coming from different countries and continents (except Japanese friends). Many other factors might be included but I guess these mentioned lexical similarities had an huge impact ✅

[@yelsavidaravskaja905]

All of the features of Altaic also exist in Uralic.

[@EnderEraydn]

Are you familiar with Turkish by any chance?

[@chronologuemusic8083]

+Ender Eraydın I think they were referring to the four main common features noted in the video.

[@chronologuemusic8083]

+Atatürk of Germany ! That makes very little sense, for the sole reason that Altaic is an obsolete hypothesis and is nowadays used mostly as a term of convenience.

[@EnderEraydn]

Chronologue Music... Nope ... Altaic is very much alive... and proven .... it is a reality....

[@chronologuemusic8083]

+Ender Eraydın That's where you're wrong: Altaic is NOT proven. There's not enough evidence to prove it. That's the reason the majority common agreement among *modern* linguists is that it is not a language family, but rather just the product of a sprachbund.

[@muratciftcioglu]

Dude.. Altaic languages cannot been compared just as the word similarities.. it must be compared with the sentence structure, which is totally different than Indo-Europian.. Ural-Altaic language family has followed an order which is, Subject+Object+Verb and suffixes (personel pronouns, prepositions, tenses)... just added at the end of word.

[@jojomythe]

Murat Ciftcioglu i totally agree! Because words are easily replaceable

[@Railkralive]

I'm turkish. Should i learn mongolian, korean or japanese if i wanna learn a new language? I guess, these languages are easier for me than other languages, or?

[@ThePolyglotFiles]

If you believe the Altaic Language theory, then, yes :) Thanks for watching!

[@defski]

Won't make any difference. The similarities are far and inbetween, too little to help much at all. Just pick a language you like the sound of the most and learn it! Or learn all 3, if you want.

[@Railkralive]

Bonkaholic ! I've picked the korean language already, it sounds amazing for my ears and i think the koresn language is a good match for me to become my next new language.

[@EnderEraydn]

You can learn Japanese language easier... it is closer than Korean... I know that because I learnt some in the past... the sentence logic is a bit more similar...

[@Railkralive]

Ender Eraydın Yes you are right, but i would say just the pronunciation of japanese language is easier than the korean language. The japanese use three different types as like Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji, what make japanese difficult. The koreans only own the type Hangeul, which makes easier than japanese. Therefore i would say it's actually better to learn korean, but japanese is as well as good, but instead of one type, you have to learn three different types.

[@mertkoraytopalak]

Native turkish speaker here ... i guess im comunicate realy easy with koreans and japanese and day by day ,its very easy to learn the language ... hard part is just difference in alphabet... pronounce and fonetics are realy easy for a turkish speaker... for example when i first met with japanese i just understand what he ment only with sound not with words ... he was told mazui !! and ioshi!! you can test this leaveing a turk in japan or korea without a teacher and how much time he needs to learn the language... i guess its just a month ....

[@manukorb6131]

I learned both Japanese (A1-A2) and Turkish (B1-B2) and I can confirm the structural similarities, but everyone is just stating those similarities, which sadly doesn't really prove any relation, while the counter-arguments are really strong. :(

[@Abeturk]

Ka=(Qua)= which Ön=(eun)=(fore/ first- one ) (Ka-ön) = which one (Ka-eun) = (Gæn/gên) = (ğan/ğen )= an/ en Gel = come (Gel-gên) =gelen = which one is coming /(what or who comes) (Get-gên) =giden = which one is going /(what or who goes) (Sat-gên) =satan = which one is selling /(who sells) (Bak-gên) =bakan =which one is looking /(what or who looks) (Gör-mã-gên) =görmeyen =which one is not seeing /(who doesn't see) Kak-mak= to direct Kaktırmak= to steer Kakılmak> to get being oriented/ to get being fixed =kağılmak >kalmak= to stay /~to remain Kakılmak>to be directed any side >kalıkmak>kalkmak =to stand up / to get up Kakıldırmak>kağıldırmak> to get being steered away = kaldırmak = to remove / ~to lift up (Yukarı Kak)>Yukarı Kalk = (direct yourself up) =Get up Kak-ak = which thing to direct it = what to steer it Kakak= Gagak=Gaga (All of them are the same meaning) (Kuş'nuŋ Gagağı) Kuşun Gagası = ( the router of bird ) the beak of bird=(it's not bird's mouth or nose) Uç-ak=which thing to fly (uçak=airplane) Bür-ek= what to wring by twisting (börek=patty) (mantı=pasty) Ka=(Qua)= which Ön=(eun)=fore/ first-one Kakğan= Kak-kan=(kak-ka-eun)= ( which one leads )= Who's directing Kakğan=Kağan=Hakan=Hahan=Khan=Han (All of them are the same meaning) Han = director- manager-leader Kohen = religious leader Kãhin= who directs us regarding the future (Mu-eun)=men/man= this one Kak-man=Kağ-man= kaoman=kaman=Xaman=Haman=Amon=the manager is this one=(commander) Çün=(chun)=factor ( Jiŋ= agency /being the agent/element of..) Ka=(Qua)= (which) U=(ou)= it (that) (Ka-u)= Ki=(Qui)=which that (Çün-ka-u) =Çünki =(parce que/ c'est-pour-quoi)=(that's why))=(therefore)= Because (U-çün)= İçün=için= (that factor..)= For.. (it's for) (Ne-u-çün)=Niçün=Niçin=(what-that-factor)= Why.. (what-for) for deriving new adjectives from nouns and adjectives Çün=factor ( Jiŋ= agency /being the agent/element of..) suffixes.. (Cı-ci-cu-cü) or (Çı-çi-çu-çü) = (jui / tchui ) Yaban =faraway/ out of center =Jaban (Jaban-jiŋ) Yabancı = (outsider)=foreign-er (ish-jiŋ)İşçi= work-er (Kapuğ-jın) Kapıcı=doorman Temür=Demir= Iron /ferrum (Temür-jin) Demirci=ironsmith (Temochin/ mongolian) gemici=sailor Tengiz=Deŋiz= Sea (Tchenggis/mongolian) (Tengiz-jin) Deŋizci=seaman

[@tibet15]

@Manu Korb, hey bist du Deutsch? :)

[@Lucip11]

Mongolian and Turkish words are very similar. You just use K for Turkish and H for Mongolian. For example Kara in Turkish and Har in Mongolian.

[@Bombogor]

Yes there are plenty of them that's why i started to learn Mongolian btw your language is really beautiful i hope one day i can read novels and poems .

[@5587bnnaaa]

그말은 khan과 han은 같은 말입니다.^^

[@yowshanannagurban581]

Köp sag bol! Thank you a lot! I am Türkmen and we often say taňryýalkasyn (God bless you) for good deeds.

[@waggonvalley2523]

There are two schools of thought about the Altaic language family. The Altaic school of thought argues that the Mongolian, Tungusic and Turkic groups, together with Korean and Japanese, have descended from a common ancestral *Proto-Altaic language. Proponents of this theory point to typological similarities among these languages. The Anti-Altaic school contends that typological similarities among the member languages are due not to their common ancestry, but rather to intensive borrowing and long contacts among them. It must be noted that the status of Korean and Japanese as members of the Altaic language family is particularly debatable. - from AWL[About World Languages] -

[@scytho-iranian7510]

there was two schools, but since the linguistic census has debunked the altaic theory there is no scientific support anymore. the last supporters now say it is only a areal family with different origins. and it only include turkic, mongolic and tungusic.

[@sunheechoi3679]

the majority census of international linguists officially say altaic is discredited(debunked). no modern major linguist belive this theory anymore. maybe some hoppy or pseaudo-linguists

[@sunheechoi3679]

name them. and actuall researches made by them. maybe you mean micro-altaic. turkic-mongolic and most times tungusic have some supporters, but even this is now very controversial because the similarities between turkic and mongolic get less in proto-forms. that means they share not a common linguistic origin. the areal-family has support. but the areal family is not altaic. it is only the result of long contact between turkic and mongolic people.

[@loks117]

korean and japanese nothing related with altaic people (mongolian), even chinese have more central asian gene than japanese, while korean do not have central asian gene at all. wake up from your stupid delusion, korean. genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations-next-gen/ chinese : 81% eastern asia, 8% central asia, 7% southeast asia & oceania, 2% finland & northern siberia japanese : 89% eastern asia, 2% central asia, 7% southeast asia & oceania, 2% finland & northern siberia korean : 94% eastern asia, 5% southeast asia & oceania mongolian: 59% central asia, 25% eastern asia, 6% asia minor, 2% eastern europe, 8% finland & northern siberia

[@Bombogor]

@@kohati7512 What is Vietnamese problem with us..We are very far from them . We don't have any negative relations. It is sad Most Turkish people admire their courage fighting against superpowers . I am so sorry :(

[@phnumsamkos1600]

I am a staunch supporter of the idea of the Altaic language family. I am Cambodian-American and I speak English with Khmer and several other languages (polyglot already). When I learned Mongolian (because I love their throat singing and culture) and eventually Japanese (weeb to a certain extent), the grammar of both were almost the same, despite they originate from two different language families and are almost completely different. What unites Mongolian and Japanese in similarities is that they are SOV (subject-object-verb) and agglutinative. In fact, the grammar of both is almost a carbon copy of each other. As a result of my experience with Mongolian, it made me learn Japanese without that much problems in grammar because I already had an innate knowledge of the grammar. My Mongolian skills made my time learning Japanese a lot more like a cake walk. If I were to start to learn some other language like Korean or any Turkic language, etc, then I would most likely be met with the same results. EDIT: also to top it all off, the other (non-Altaic languages I speak along with English and Khmer is Indonesian, Thai, Vietnamese and can also use Malay to a big extent).

[@sinemyldz5040]

I'm from Turkey, and we learned that Turkish is a part of Altaic languages since primary school. My major is English Language Teaching right now on college. So I took linguistics course. We learned same thing (Turkish is a part of Altaic languages) on college too. Besides, I have friends learned Japan and Korean. They learned these languages faster and easier than English, or Russian. My father loves Korean historical TV series and he learned more than 50 words by watching them. Also, I learned lots of Japanese word while watching animes

[@jeywow]

i come from somalia hargaisa but the most strange thing is my grandpa deosnt write or read but he told me that the turkish and korian mangoliina and japan where cousins swear he was born rural aria suha

[@alparslantuncer4052]

that 's true

[@yourcalicocat]

I would love to find out how he learned this

[@darr640]

Who is Rural Aria Suha? Or what are they talking about l dont understand english

[@queenb7209]

That's true dont know about japan but turks were mongoloid and lived next to/close to koreans

[@darr640]

@@queenb7209 what is true?

[@c_ke]

I just wish Turkish people would stop with this Ural-Altaic fantasy. ;-; Just because there are similarities and such does not mean they are directly related. There are things called _coincidences_ or _influences_ over time.

[@loks117]

korean and japanese nothing related with altaic people (mongolian), even chinese have more central asian gene than japanese, while korean do not have central asian gene at all. wake up from your stupid delusion, korean. genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations-next-gen/ chinese : 81% eastern asia, 8% central asia, 7% southeast asia & oceania, 2% finland & northern siberia japanese : 89% eastern asia, 2% central asia, 7% southeast asia & oceania, 2% finland & northern siberia korean : 94% eastern asia, 5% southeast asia & oceania mongolian: 59% central asia, 25% eastern asia, 6% asia minor, 2% eastern europe, 8% finland & northern siberia

[@loks117]

"if science denies it at some point ofc we will look for another answer" lol, idiot. if science already denied it, it mean those altaic theory are fake / bogus. there is no need to find another answer because there will be no other answer. and most of people dont deny turkic and mongol, they are indeed cousin, what most people denies are turkic and mongol + korean-japanese language

[@Kharon46]

Vocabulary is the problem here but my opinion is that they are related especially because of the vowel harmony, i find difficult to believe they all come up with vowel harmony apart each other

[@이준성-y8m]

the theory is already debunked. not only vocabulary, many more difficult things. look at dravidian and korean, typological and vocabular is similar, but not same family at all. korean language is isolated and japanese is isolated. maybe korean is related to japanese, but controversial. japanese do not show vowel harmony, and korean only in little form. the similarities between japanese and austronesian are even stronger.

[@dieweltsprachen5032]

Vowel harmony doesn´t necessarily prove anything. If memory serves Mayan also has vowel harmony. Many same language features can develop independent of each other in various languages. Take Chinese, Navajo and Mayan all of which are tonal languages, ergo they must, or could be related, right? After all American Indian languages are supposed to have their origins in East Asia, therefore it could be even more probable right? But none of those languages are related and any contact would have been thousands of years ago if there ever was any contact. Chinese and Indonesian have similar grammar, yet are unrelated.

[@MartinDWeiss]

I have been an avid (sometime fanatic) spoken language learner since my parents moved us to the Brazilian jungle when I was six. And I’ve taken a pretty deep dive into at least one or two languages of every widely spoken language family. My doctorate from Columbia is in cultural anthropology (with some linguistics) but I instinctively apply theirs and my own analytics. I don’t care much how they define language “family”. That’s all about theory and history. What matters more in today’s world is the practical and URGENT challenge of pulling the human family away from the brink, and a great venue for doing so is by helping to inspire language learners to feel, in their gut and in their heart, the amazing similarities between their native tongue and those of others many thousands of miles away who may not look, eat, think, live or pray like them. Based on amazing and sometimes shocking similarities, Quechua, Turkish and Japanese (three I’ve spoken and/or speak fluently today) are close siblings. I think they do share the same ancestor, but it’s prehistoric - an ancestor language that was spoken long before it could be traced by historical linguistics, but VERY long after the birth of language, the event, which along with the advent of tools, best distinguishes the human species. Let’s call that kind of language family a prehistoric family and base the analysis strictly on the practical experience of not only how easy it is to learn other languages in the same family, but how doing so immediately turns on Chomsky-like, deep, structural, emotional affinity for the language and its people. This helps explain why so many Turkish people adore Japanese and vice-versa, why they mutually revere the Turkish-Japanese film “125 Years Memory” (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/125_Years_Memory), why Quechua language lovers in Cuzco, Peru have sponsored special outreach efforts to their counterparts in Japan and much, much more. So let’s pursue the Altaic family debate when we have the spare time, but spare no effort in the pursuit of learning and sharing what makes our language and feelings so profoundly close.

[@hattila4812]

Altay theory is invalid. Basic words such as number names and organ names in the language families are not found in the Altaic languages.

[@KingofKpop]

There's dictionary being developed to connect Korean and Japanese language - which includes over 2,000 native words. IMO, Korean and Japanese language are somewhat related and yes they all use loan words from other countries too. But they have exact same grammar and even share common expression words. I have also found that Inuit, Nivkh, Evenki languages some connection with Korean as many expressive words are very similar. Also, Turkic, Tungusic speakers can master Korean very easily with correct accent as well. But Japanese and Chinese can not master Korean accent.

[@loks117]

korean and japanese nothing related with altaic people (mongolian), even chinese have more central asian gene than japanese, while korean do not have central asian gene at all. wake up from your stupid delusion, korean. genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations-next-gen/ chinese : 81% eastern asia, 8% central asia, 7% southeast asia & oceania, 2% finland & northern siberia japanese : 89% eastern asia, 2% central asia, 7% southeast asia & oceania, 2% finland & northern siberia korean : 94% eastern asia, 5% southeast asia & oceania mongolian: 59% central asia, 25% eastern asia, 6% asia minor, 2% eastern europe, 8% finland & northern siberia

[@loks117]

what is your point? mastery in language and accent are related with individual capability in language, nothing to do with all whole group of people. i myself can speak cantonese, mandarin, and american english very well including each one accent, do that mean chinese language have something related with american english? no, so do korean and japanese, nothing related with altaic. once again i tell you, words can be borrowed, grammar and expresion of word can be learned / influenced, have nothing to do with genetic. genetic are more reliable than language because genetic can not be borrowed, only can be inherited, and korean gene have nothing to do with altaic people.

[@sminsmin3456]

Well funny because Modern Korean doesn’t have a pitch accent…

[@jaloliddinqarshiyev5558]

I'm Uzbek which is Turkic language I observed that Uzbeks and Japanese people can learn each other's language easier!!!

[@BY-me3cp]

This topic is being taught compulsorily in turkish high schools and they indeed defend the idea of these languages coming from the same family so I thought it was 100 % correct information 😵 though i agree with the last comment “similarities should increase as we go back in languages’ history” to me personally, korean sentences sound sooo different from turkish but sometimes in kdramas they tell the exact same words as the turkish subtitle which shocks me every time. Also, I must admit that I’m highkey proud of my gender-neutral language 😇

[@thomaskingschillerlein7843]

No matter how much "discredited" the theory may be... and ... really no matter how much sense this video makes... all the mentioned languages in the video have simply too much in common to be not in some form related or descendant from one another. Protomongolic split to Turkic and Mongolian (and/or Tungusic?). either Turkic or Mongolian developed to Tungusic. Tungusic settlers mixed with others and settled in Korea. Koreans sailed to japonic islands and mixed with Ainu and others. It may well be that the more you go back in history the more different the words are. But to the same degree it may also as well be that the languages - due to geographically being cut off and having too much e.g. Chinese influence- developed so differently that they were not recognisable as a language family BUT ONLY RECENTLY started to develop parallele to one another or develop even into the same direction. Either way... The sound of Mongolian Korean and Japanese feel simply like "home" to Turks! Even hungarian is more pleasing to our ears than anyone elses. Unfortunately I do not know enough about Finnish and Estonian to refer to them. But can't you understand? We can even feel it in our urine!!! :-) But honestly, it's not rocket science people come from "somewhere" and descended from "somebody"... and did not miraculously pop up somewhere on the Korean Peninsula and developed an "isolated" language family (lol+gtfo) And... as it is too far away from Chinese language family... (drrrruuuuhuuums...lol) it is highly probably altaiic or other.

[@selengeenesay7449]

Send love to mongolia and all Turkic nations from Turkey! ❤️🇲🇳🇰🇿🇦🇿🇹🇲🇺🇿🇰🇬

[@kohati7512]

Japanese, Turkic, Mongolic are Altaic

[@selengeenesay7449]

ko hati I know

[@kohati7512]

@@selengeenesay7449 But reading all the comments here, you will see that there is an attempt trying to distance the Turks from Mongols, Japanese. You can even find these attempts on Twitter and Quora as well. [imgbox.com/gchCuRzB ], [imgbox.com/5kbqrSn0 ], [imgbox.com/EWgbFPZ3 ]. You would be surprised to know who is behind this attempt. They are Vietnamese !

[@kohati7512]

I have tried to find their specific identities, but it's quite difficult because one of them works for Facebook. If you are interested, search for my blog article "Why are some Japanese nationalists anti-Turkish and supportive of the Armenian Genocide ?", you will find it.

[@selengeenesay7449]

ko hati where are you from?

[@shirou777]

According to Japanese scholars(originally Russian scholar), Japanese language is multiple layers. It's mix of Southern and Northern. Apparently, Northern was Altaic. Influence of Southern China, Korean Peninsula , and Siberia route. At the same time, there is more similarity between Japonic and Austronesian languages. Sometimes, some Hawaiian, South East Asian, even African, people say Japanese pronunciation is similar to their languages and as a Japanese, I think so, too. It's a language of amalgam. Is it okay to say that I guess remaining elements are Japanese original?

[@wilusan]

can you please provide a study or anything to do with your claim, i couldn't find anything regarding to what you said on the internet. thanks in advance.

[@shirou777]

@@wilusan the scholars I mention are Yevgeny Polivanov, Shichirō Murayama. Btw, I can't expound the detail in english because I'm not academic.

[@dltmdwnfkdldjs]

i dont know turkish, and other altaic languages and not even sure they are related. one thing i can say is that Japanese grammer and Korean grammer are literally identical. its strange almost how similar their expressions are also. they are different languages but gurl, u cant say they are not related. shocking.

[@TheNera2010]

Turkic languages and Mongolic languages are definitely related. They are in the same language family. But I am not sure about Korean and Japanese. The ancestors of the Turks and Mongols were living around today's Mongolia and they were so active, mobile people. I think thousands of years ago some of those ancient people went to Korea and Japan. And they mixed their languages with local people. And one of the difference between them is the affect of the Chinese. Korean and Japanese are much more affected by chinese. So their languages got so different by the time.

[@arborinfelix]

As a native Turkish speaker, I can say that the syntax of Japanese and Turkish are almost the same. Just take a Turkish sentence and swap the words with their Japanese counterparts, and you have a syntactic correct Japanese sentence in most situations.

[@baatarishero]

I am a Mongolian who speaks both Korean and Japanese. So I’d like to add some insight. First of all, all three have the same basic sentence structure of subject+object+verb. Moreover, a lot of grammar particles are placed in similar locations within the sentence. This is as far as the commonality between all three of them goes. Aside from a few, Mongolian doesn’t have many words that sound similar to the corresponding word in each language. As for Korean and Japanese, they both have words of Chinese character origin: 한자어 and 漢字語 which make up a huge portion of the vocabulary. These sound similar most of the time and even identical at times. Pronunciation wise, I had an easier time with Japanese while Korean had some phonetic sounds which I had trouble mastering. ie: 사 vs 싸, 의 I will say that they are more comparable to each other than other languages and that there are clear signs of historical connections. However, vocabulary-wise, the similarities aren’t on the same level as English and Spanish for example.