Are We Allies? Black Americans vs Asian Americans | Middle Ground

[@jubilee]

Hi Goodhumans! Thanks for watching this episode of Middle Ground. In this episode, we wanted to highlight the conflict and underlying tension between East Asian Americans and Black Americans, which is why the casting choices we made were focused on East Asians. We hope this conversation gave you a glimpse into a topic that isn't often discussed. We learned a lot from making it! Thanks as always for your support!

[@TKN_FORZE]

Do Black Americans vs African Americans or Indigenous latinos vs white latinos.

[@FriedrichBarb]

Your videos are only making more people racist overall, focusing on race so much is not productive, its genuinely brainwashing your audience into believing its still the 1950s But if your agenda is to make more people racist and embrace tribalism, then you're doing a excellent job

[@Simeautomatic100]

*Can we have a B.A.'s vs BP across the Diaspora (More particular, those who came here & live in the USA)????*

[@hallabajwa9325]

South Asians do exist jubilee

[@micahisbetter]

Goodhumans honestly I have never heard of that but I like the name😭✋🏽

[@dellabella3644]

A discussion between Africans and African Americans* would be great for a video! Edit: */ Black Americans

[@maleahj308]

That's a needed discussion

[@debraidehen]

Yesssssss from an African!

[@Isinforblood]

Facts fr

[@Peridium]

YES. This is not addressed enough.

[@Princess0ftheLight]

Yes, this is an issue that needs to be addressed. First generation African vs Continental African vs African Americans.

[@stuti9815]

can y’all do south asian americans vs east asian americans? i think that would be interesting...

[@thegent2258]

I’m trying to picture it and most comments would be “how do you feel when you’re the poster child of the asian continent”

[@pragyagupta6605]

South asians are racist af against east Asians and east asians heavily stereotype south asians. It would be interesting to see both the sides pointing fingers at each other.

[@laoyue5924]

And southeast asians

[@pragyagupta6605]

@@sawsawsuka k-ent and j-ent are quite popular all over the world. I'm an Indian, I'm myself quite into japanese and korean pop culture. But personally, I've come across a lot of narrow minded and vicious people who are quite racist towards East asians.. calling them c and r slurs, despite of being asians themselves. Some east asians still call Indians "curry munchers" and address us with that stereoypical mindset. It's been a high time now and asians (no matter what ethnicity) should all respect each others' cultures and beliefs.

[@unknownvv4924]

Yes!!!

[@DiannaMarie92]

The Asian man getting choked up understanding her pain really got to me.

[@MegumiHayashida]

Same

[@quinn4427]

@kranj doo ?? What does that have anything to do with her comment. The Asian man was getting emotion in the video because he acknowledges that asians are more privileged than black people and sees her pain.

[@MaybeLily1234]

A true empath

[@EKL_22]

Same and I really don't like to cry 😢

[@weiwenwwe2066]

More victim card coming their way

[@dannyy8619]

I just cant get past how bad the questions were for this one. To make it all about anti blackness among Asians and to not even remotely challenge anti Asian sentiments, biases among the black participants really represents the broader narrative of this country.

[@kitejohnson515]

Blsck people don’t have anti Asian sentiments they literally support all of their businesses so they can stomp on black when they make it

[@nemonymous89]

Yeah,America loves to ignore the lopsided direction of interracial violence in these segments.

[@alexcanning5383]

I agree but it’s only a 20 minute video.. it’s tough to delve into topics when it’s such a short video

[@morganjanaeee]

what do you mean

[@TKBell1970]

@@nemonymous89 Violence is inherently American. There are lots of ignorant people and they all should be highlighted. If you want to see a more “balanced” segment then create a more balanced segment.

[@London.g14]

I'm not Asian but I will say this; I feel there needs to be more representation when it comes to Asian-related topics. Indians, Sri Lankans, Filipinos, Indonesians, Malaysians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshi, Afghanistanis, Nepalese, Iraqis and Iranians are also Asians and are from the continent of Asia. I also noticed, when it comes to Asian related topics/discussions, I hardly see South Asian people (India, Pakistan and so on) being represented

[@camerynr8344]

i clicked on this video as a black girl who lives near a large community of south asians and is was a little surprised there wasn’t one.

[@voxschultz3958]

@@rndmusrnm2763 The Middle East is part of the continent of Asia, so yes.

[@Adam-xy4ny]

@@rndmusrnm2763 It is called west Asia lol, the Middle East is west Asia plus North Africa

[@singbin]

Even though we're all Asians but many Asians didn't claim India or Pakistan as Asian... lol

[@singbin]

@@rndmusrnm2763 Google existed for a reason.

[@neemasjourney1465]

Tony has such a heart and you can really see that he is trying to understand and be compassionate. It is just refreshing to see.

[@0shawhat]

That's def an example that we all should be! Be compassionate to understand each other's perspectives :)

[@RY-os9vw]

I love his heart!

[@Unknown16537]

He was so sweet 😭😭😭 bless his heart. I hope they can all become great friends after this

[@missshannonsunshine]

Right he was crying and I wanted to give him a hug

[@cosmeticaffairs7220]

He made me cry.

[@jacooplax]

That 1 girl saying that East Asians have more of an advantage than South East Asians hit hard because we're not always perceived as smart and mostly only as laborers

[@MyStaryStaryNight]

Yeah the lighter asian hates the darker Asian and I'm southeast asian. It sad, because even asian are very segrated by color and class

[@tendou._7320]

@@MyStaryStaryNight Because in east Asia they find 'lighter skin' more beautiful, and dark skin ugly which is very sad.

[@awisepolarbear.3211]

@@tendou._7320 yup my family is like that they wanted me to get light skin.

[@crystaly7159]

@@MyStaryStaryNight STOP IT. i don't and I know a plenty who don't hate Southeast Asians. I'm Korean and it saddens me whenever I see southeast Asians saying stuff like that about East Asians. Have you ever been to East Asia? Ive been to SEA and have met various types of people. Had met both bad and good people but I don't generalize the whole SEAsian people as bad just cuz i almost got scammed, wrongly touched/groped, had people who constantly tried to sell me stuff. Ive made amazing local friends who welcomed me with their open arms, showed me around their country, invited me to their houses and showed generosity.

[@nicknatsvlishvili8343]

we west asians always get rejected lol

[@21andyyc]

I'm Asian and I've had a black girlfriend, white girlfriend and Asian girlfriend. When I went to my black girlfriends house her brothers would make fun of me openly about being Asian but didn't have any negative intent. When I went to my white girlfriends house, her parents would be verbally nice but stare at me with disapproval. When I went to my Asian girlfriends house her parents would ask me how much money I make and if I can help their son get a job. Everyone has their stereotypes and are racist to some degree. Your viewpoints are shaped by the world around you and how you are treated by a certain group/race will shape how you interact with them and your feelings towards them.

[@b.a.nfrazya]

I'm Black and icurrently live in Korea...Thing about black people is we really dnt care about the whole race thing...We just tired of getting shitted on and targeted about being black..If we joking or teasing you, that's our way of showing acceptance and in hopes you can do the same I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm clarifying the action...Since ibeen here it's been nothing but genuine love by Koreans, they really make Korea feel like a place ican call home

[@YvonneEche]

​@@b.a.nfrazyaIt's rare for a black person to care about race. Of course we notice race obviously but it doesn't determine how others get treated.

[@yingkouzen]

You’re winning the lottery bro 😎

[@chrisofmelbourne87]

Yes, wow! Very well balance ans wise comment. I agree.

[@Azrael3176]

Nah black people just like roasting people. We even roast eachother for fun thats just how we are.

[@JovanLatte]

PLEASE do black Americans and Africans! Seriously. That is so beyond over needed.

[@putent9623]

Im african so j can definitely clarify that african people do not in any way whatsoever agree with these black americans. Edit: just gonna add this in. Half of the people here saying "I'm africa and you do not speak for me" 1. Do you genuinely think I'm trying to make a broad statement. What do you think I was expecting people to actually leave a like on my comment, just randomly commented what I can almost guarantee is true and that's it. 2. You can't say "I live in africa" then also mention places like sudan. That's like calling your self an Asian just because you live in India (even though it's technically true). Also I'm hating the sass coming from you guys, it's the most passive aggressive crap I've seen in a while and its also cringe, like "omg gosshshshh you do not speak for me sister 👁️👄👁️"

[@yvankate2248]

Yesssss Am african and I REALLY wanna see this

[@zebibtekle4889]

@@GeronFletcher I was going to mention The Grapevine

[@zebibtekle4889]

​@@putent9623 you can't speak for all Africans. I'm a Black African and I agree with the Black American cast. Plus, how are you going to negate their experience?

[@chaizan9733]

How about african americans and africans period. It would be interesting to see arabs, amazighs, kurds brought into tge conversation as well.

[@sselemaNrM]

I would really ike to see African Americans and Africans. Would be really interesting to see cultural values and lifestyle differences!

[@AngelicTroubleMaker-LaVooDoo24]

That is all over the internet especially on KZbin.

[@ThouRookie]

@@AngelicTroubleMaker-LaVooDoo24 but not with the same layout

[@brandonclark8395]

Definitely would be interesting

[@yeniheriyani6640]

African >>>>> african Americans

[@WestCoastTruth]

Now this da one!!!

[@demetrondotson6956]

I will always be triggered by another Black American being racist towards any race... Like We of all people should know how hurtful that is and we should always strive to never put anyone through that.

[@glennrhee6832]

Same and then I see other black people my age say crazy things about other people but lose their minds when they say something back

[@ajones2367]

it irks my nerves tbh

[@akuaik.100]

Same, it pisses me off so much

[@LeondreWilsono0o]

Thats why I hate Tiktok it's literally a place were black creators make hundreds off of insulting white people. It's disgusting.

[@taliaiaaiia]

@@LeondreWilsono0o Tiktok overall is disgusting. It promotes bad habits and it is just extremely unhealthy. But I hope people start becoming less gullible and less ignorant on that app. Majority of users on tiktok are those things and when that racist negativity is on peoples “fyp”s it spreads that gross mentality and makes people think it’s okay since a black creator/poc creator posted it. It’s terrible

[@LeonahMagalona]

Definitely agree with that phrase "Filipinos are the black people of Asia." Being a Filipino watching a lot of Korean TV shows, that's their perception of Filipinos that we are poor, uneducated and dark skinned. Love my morena skin tone and soooo proud of it.

[@ss-gv3tm]

No,you Filipinos are the most sweetest,kindest and hard working people out there🥺❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@yowinmymind]

loving the moreno/morena skin tone! as we should 💋

[@206guy5]

Stop acting like Filipinos are the only dark skins of Asia. Cambodians, Laotians, Burmese, Thais, Indonesians, Malays ets have dark skin.

[@sunN.Y]

Cambodians is the black of asia lol

[@206guy5]

@@sunN.Y facts lol.

[@rizaaliyah]

People fail to recognize that Southeast and South Asians exist, whenever they hear “Asian” they think lighter skin, they think Korean, Japanese or Chinese.. Whenever i mention to someone that i’m Filipino, they go “so you’re not Asian?” like ??? Asia is not a monolith. In fact, it is incredibly diverse.

[@poojas7869]

YES!

[@Username-lt7lt]

It's because they're ignorant and have never listened in history class.

[@PyanY]

Yes!

[@dorkability]

I think future Jubilee videos need to differentiate between East Asians and South Asians. These are two completely different experiences. It's like saying Latinos and White Americans have a comparable experience just because they're both from the Americas.

[@sabrina16477]

Exactly! Asia is huge but people always refer to those three countries when there are various ethnicities, all of them really unique.

[@Hannah-ur3ks]

A lot of the “good” stereotypes associated with Asian people does undermine the work and the person behind those stereotypes. Like, you’re good at math or so and so because you’re Asian not because you worked hard and dismisses the struggle behind the success. Often when I was younger a lot of the things I worked hard on was dismissed because I was Asian and was never given the help I needed. Either way stereotypes are bad and harmful.

[@VlVlWONG]

yeah. I think that's why she put it in quotes. it's like thats not a good stereotype but it's better than everyone assuming you're a thug or ghetto because those stereotypes are the ones that more often endanger you.

[@drunkenlilTIFFY1990]

Not really. Stereotypes aren’t always bad. It’s a defense for our minds. I’ve take. Sociology and it’s actually not entirely bad.

[@theunitedkingdom]

@@drunkenlilTIFFY1990 “Good” stereotypes have always harmed us.

[@FNAFCREW]

I feel like a lot of these comments are negative and just talking abt how one side was afraid to speak up blah blah blah but in reality the questions they asked were terrible they were basically asking like “who’s more oppressed” and when you ask stuff like that it’s only going to cause more division i think they should’ve asked more question and more things more so on the understanding side bcuz right now all i see in the comments are black and asians trying to state how the “other side” vise versa didn’t mention there problems enough and that’s where division gets created😐

[@Chill-mm4pn]

That's messed up, I remember reading a post on reddit from an asian guy with adhd. He talked about how his parents and other people expected him to do well in school just because he's asian eventhough his adhd makes it difficult. I have it as well so I can relate to him on that level.

[@RoseEyed]

As a Black person with Asian family members these relationships fascinate me. Just important not to throw all of one group under the bus to the point we’re projecting negative things on individuals. Can’t wait to see the conversation! Update: Watching now. This is actually just as nuanced, well-rounded, and wholesome as I hoped it would be. I really do hope we can learn to come together en mass one day. We're SO MUCH stronger together than we are apart. Edit: Was NOT expecting this many likes y'all... Wow

[@AxxLAfriku]

HELP MY!!! My muscles are too big! I am a big tall man and my muscles are even BIGGER! I use them to get views but they HURT so much!!! Because they are heavy. Do you have any advice, dear rose

[@deepstariaenigmatica2601]

*twotter has joined the chat

[@kei7540]

@@AxxLAfriku Sucks for you buddy

[@gamejamxclan569]

@@AxxLAfriku ?

[@breadst1c772]

@Caleb DeCoteau why are asians targeting black ppl worldwide?

[@wblue812]

As African Americans we need to start changing our culture and making it more healthier and start destroying the dysfunctional behavior within our own community's!

[@VintageFuture_]

As a black American we need to fix ourselves individually so we can make the country we're living in a better country.

[@RealKoolKid1]

@Rajasekaran19948I’m sure you do because it confirms your racist bias!

[@TheErsu]

Generalizing based on skin colour is bad, no matter who does it. No one should do it.

[@lighgblue2676]

I agree :)

[@yolandaperry86]

Exactly!

[@laurenpulley9855]

Exactly! I don’t mind the idea of two minority groups discussing their issues. But when they were saying like “Asian people keep to themselves” - that’s a huge generalisation. Like it’s not based on whether they’re Asian or not to act like this??

[@sesameshroom8768]

Exactly, there’s no such thing as ‘they can fight their own battles’ when it comes to things like this. You don’t get a pass for generalizing others if you are a victim

[@kukguroki4179]

And you’re the same kind of person to generalise whites

[@Cocolocomococrazy]

An East Asian vs. South Asian episode would be very interesting bc I don’t think a lot of people understand there is more to “Asian”.

[@ishwaaq191]

Yeah I’ve seen that in the U.S, Asians are considered to be East Asians, whereas in the U.K Asians are considered to be south East Asians . I think it’s to do with the population of South east and East Asians in the country

[@malachy2515]

@@ishwaaq191 Don't people in the UK think of South Asians first when they hear the term "Asian"? East Asian - China, Korea, Japan, Taiwan South East Asian - Indochina, Indonesia, Phillipines South Asian - Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, etc.

[@FrankiePacino]

Asian vs Japanese would be good too bring some of grandmas too would be must watch

[@raindrop3280]

@@malachy2515 We do, yeah. They're right in it likely being due to differing demographics, though. With that said, the US seems to do their demographics really weirdly and seems to just group Asians in together with no further breakdown, so I can't say for certain.

[@user-Void-Star]

You mean brown and yellow?

[@HI-hb5yf]

They should’ve thrown in two blasian one raised with their black family and the other raised by their Asian family

[@jbarral6509]

I would be in awe to see that

[@cristiany3285]

And I would have been the blasian

[@f.k6920]

No that would complicate things

[@sortaizzy]

Yes!! I was thinking that too!

[@alorhamahal]

Yes

[@ittamm3818]

in mycountry, we have a national motto that says "unity in diversity" what this means is that even though we have different ethnicities, cultures, races, religions, and etc our nation is one unit.

[@meganaxelia]

that isn’t a ‘nation’ then. a ‘nation’ is a land representative of an ethnic demographic. you simply live in a country/economic zone.

[@bubullibooooo9928]

@@meganaxelia There are MANY non homogeneous countries/ nations.

[@meganaxelia]

@@bubullibooooo9928 Countries, yes. Nations, no. A ‘nation’ is the land of an ethnic peoples. Often American politicians and all like to appropriate the term ‘nation’ to falsely allude to their country being more unified and ‘bound to them by blood’.

[@cheesecakeisgross4645]

There is no unity in diversity..

[@mayoiko]

yeah but then the muslims start to burn churches and the javanese be all racist to chinese people, also every muslim in our country hate the jews. my catholic friend was discriminated by muslims, and i have a lot of friends from NTT in my major and other major/faculties in our campus do look down on them simply because they look different. we do have idealistic national motto but that doesnt mean we are clean from racism or bigotry.

[@somebodyoulove]

This is beautiful. Still waiting on the Black American vs Immigrant Blacks / first generation African Americans episode.

[@TronBKNY]

Don’t get me started on that!

[@abidanielson2747]

yesss i really want to see that episodes 🇪🇷

[@smartie3445]

Yesss, I need this

[@Princess0ftheLight]

Definitely! There’s a lot to unpack there.

[@TronBKNY]

It’s so frustrating with my moms side from Jamaica and my dad from America.... yes we need this

[@akino5795]

In Asian cultures, colorism is a huge issue my parents would jokingly tell me to bleach my skin.

[@eyeyamjstn628]

Same lol, not as exaggerated as yours but people have told me that I’m dark but I’m light af in reality

[@samcruz7782]

same especially as a filipino

[@kg2002]

@@shegoblin4014 please don’t use God’s name in vain

[@shegoblin4014]

@@kg2002 ok sorry

[@iyang2341]

@@kg2002 stop gettin offended snowflake oh my god

[@giacominaj5601]

Tony seems so kind and loving. It really says something by the way he choked up talking about black discrimination in the workplace-you can tell he cares.

[@WesleyC5771]

@Caleb DeCoteau Why do you feel that way?

[@WesleyC5771]

@Caleb DeCoteau okay but what does this have to do with Tony being a disappointment?

[@WesleyC5771]

@Caleb DeCoteau Well are you going to explain? I’m genuinely curious.

[@the_other_michael2]

@Caleb DeCoteau I have come across quite a few of your responses in this comment section. You seem to harbor a lot of resentment towards African Americans, I would really like to discuss why that is if you don't mind.

[@the_other_michael2]

@Caleb DeCoteau I googled and there were three main articles from 1997, 2010 and 2020. The 2010 article detailed the strenuous relationship between the African American community and the Asian community as the latter felt they were the target of to roberries from members of the former community. The police didn't feel it was racially motivated which frustrated the shop owners who felt their plight was falling on deaf ears. They also noted that due to the language barrier most shop owners weren't reporting the issues which only further exacerbated the issues. If this is the source of your resentment and frustration I completely understand. I just feel like if you color all black people with the same brush and refuse to interact with them you effectively hinder conversation about the issues. It's not all African Americans that are doing this, those that are, are clearly reprehensible and if you come into the conversation with your grievances and less insults you may very well find allyship in African Americans who would condemn the actions of those who are being prejudiced against your brethren. It is clear that African Americans can be prejudiced too and everyone should try to work together to be empathetic and understand each other. I am really keen to discuss your experiences, as I believe you may have been hurt by others and I would just like to extend an olive branch

[@mks9574]

East Asian racism is more widely accepted. Nowadays, many people agree that black stereotypes are bad, but when is comes to other minorities (Asians specifically), the stereotypes are more commonly expressed. I've heard a lot of teachers say "What happened to your Asian genes" and everyone in the class starts laughing. While in comparison, if a teacher said a stereotype about black people, it would probably end up with them getting fired. Black hate is more worldwide, however. Many people from other countries believe that black people are more dangerous and are scared of them due to a lot of the media they intake. What's interesting to me is that depending on where you are in Asia, black people can be seen as scary or super cool and people to look up to. Also, about the Model Minority: Any and all stereotypes are harmful. I personally don't like how that girl skipped over the negatives of that. Another thing, racism and colorism aren't the same thing!!!

[@timepasstubee]

south asian raceism especially racism against Indians is very accepted and never even acknowledged

[@YN-wo8rd]

1:00. This is wrong. The “good” stereotypes aren’t good. Asians are considered good at school, so whenever an Asian does bad on a test or something, we all get laughed at because we are supposed to be the smart ones. Also, south Asians are called dirty A LOT! I am Indian and people call me dirty for eating with my hands. I didn’t realize someone could be SO ignorant.

[@soupysoupp]

yes, thank you! i’m an asian american too and although it might feel nice once or twice to be considered smart, it’s also a VERY high expectation that we are held too CONSTANTLY. And the second i don’t understand something or my grades aren’t perfect, i feel like a failure for not keeping up with those stereotypes.

[@gerardorocha247]

I agree. The “good” stereotypes are also harmful. Many Asians have their merits undermined because of their race. People assume an Asian is smart because of race, rather than the person’s discipline, hard work and determination meanwhile they just happen to be asian.

[@aubriawalker8107]

i Totally get what you are saying!!!! But I think they mean that they rather be stereotyped as “smart” rather than being a “thug” because you can potentially lose your life for being stereotyped as that i.e police brutality, racial profiling

[@beatrixkiddos6672]

What you’re saying is 100% valid but I think they meant “good” in the sense that Asians are stereotyped more positively than black Americans. So for example, black Americans are stereotyped as lazy, loud, ghetto, etc. While Asians are usually stereotyped as smart, hard working, etc. It doesn’t mean the stereotypes hurt any less or that Asians don’t feel the same way as black people do when they are stereotyped. They are just as hurtful. But, I think the point is, regardless of the stereotypes both ethnicities face, Asians are generally viewed more positively in white america than black people are (hence the model minority idea). Again, this does not discount their experiences or diminishes the amount of oppression and racism Asians have experienced for centuries.

[@bloodmoneyhistory6845]

@@beatrixkiddos6672 exactly

[@mokatinker6142]

I would really like to see Indigenous Americans vs Black Americans

[@ClayMastah344]

Same! That’d be something to seen

[@JosephYZWang]

Native Americans vs White Conservatives or Evangelicals :P Edit: sry didn’t know “American Indian” wasn’t a thing

[@WhoCaresInc21]

@@JosephYZWang Oh god. I can already see the answers to the, "Americans are living on stolen land," question.

[@baileyelisejasperson8260]

That would be interesting. I am an Indigenous person, and my tribes had conflict with the African Americans in my area. It's because some of our people were forced to marry slaves, so some of the black people are sort of related to us. But they're not related enough that they fit the blood requirement.

[@brookdaniels8219]

@@baileyelisejasperson8260 also in some cases natives owned slaveszzzz

[@뿔뿔이-b6w]

one time black kid called me - "whats up Jackie Chan" and I replied - "Not much Samuel L Jackson" and we became bros

[@MusicWorldWonder]

That is amazing, I wish we had more stories like yours in the media instead of one sided race baiting mess.

[@뿔뿔이-b6w]

@@MusicWorldWonder I know a lot of black dudes. schools, army and in civie. I remember all their names. the ones on the news are just... a bit misguided. They save my ass, I save theirs. same stuff.

[@uyagraph]

Lol love this

[@venus7286]

You're sweet

[@jaakunaokami2981]

Did you two make a Rush Hour Movie Film?

[@karaeats8118]

Asians helped build this country . They built the Transcontinental Railroad and then were all murdered after completion. Every ethnicity has helped build this country not just one group.

[@tramarthomas6105]

What you're saying is true, duh, but that's unrelated to what she was talking about specifically

[@laurencameron3150]

They helped build it most likely from the money gained from slavery

[@noahn4564]

⁠@@laurencameron3150so? Wtf??? Asians were mistreated and overworked til their deaths literally. How does it matter that the money came from slavery? Asians didnt enslave black ppl or contribute in the slavery in any way.

[@porothashawarma2339]

@@laurencameron3150the Asians were the people that built the railroad . They were indentured labourers and their conditions were horrible , they were just free in name but in every other aspect they were slaves .

[@Indiansareallpajeets]

Definitely

[@dayvonnaking177]

When she was talking about immigrants I think she was totally correct like their is already this colorism in Asian countries so when they come here is and see actual black people they don’t want to be in the vicinity-of these people

[@dayvonnaking177]

@@Snorlax-t6z well am sorry that happened to you from a history standpoint the only reason why I think black people had a problem with Asian people is because of immigrant their was in an influx of Asian immigrants in the 50s-70s and when they got here their was a thing we’re you could only get here if you were valuable like a doctor or something you had to have skills so when they got here they stuck to their own and acted better also restaurant their were a lot of Asian food places opening and a lot of them didn’t welcome black people

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

@@dayvonnaking177 you're making this up for likes

[@dayvonnaking177]

@@Dave_of_Mordor no am not I learned this from experience and history

[@dayvonnaking177]

@@Dave_of_Mordor if you just look it up their was a ban for Asians only doctors and lawyers and so called valued people could come that’s why south Asians have a bigger wealth then any other minoritie group in America

[@Dave_of_Mordor]

@@dayvonnaking177 right...

[@torilu3272]

i’m really disappointed that the conversation was almost fully about oppression vs. oppression rather than the similarities of our cultures. It also made me sad to see that neither side really talked about the historic sides to oppression that both races have faced. i love love love jubilee but as an asian american i didn’t feel represented in the slightest nor did i find the conversation productive.

[@therealmemalapane3491]

It's about them being allies not about their culture

[@millzz]

Fully agree. This whole conversation looks more like a game of "you oppressed me, you oppressed me too" instead of "WE'VE been oppressed as people of colour" and talking more about similar struggles and celebrations.

[@jiggzstarr]

I agree but I also think any discussion of racial tension is productive as it's so lacking in our culture and in the world overall.

[@jahsworld9456]

YESSS I completely agree I feel like with a lot of poc it’s a competition for them, like who was more oppressed and that is not the case that shouldn’t be the case and I feel like because of that it can create some animosity between two ethnic groups when it shouldn’t.

[@AndreTJones]

I somewhat agree. There’s a type of “Oppression Olympics”. Given the format of the show it was bound to result in the conversation. I think the ending was a lot better.

[@camilleboudville3043]

As an Asian who has grown up in an Asian country, I have to agree with Tony. Racism is deeply embedded in many Asian cultures - colorism is alive and well in several countries, but I think there has been less of a drive to get rid of it. That being said, it is improving.

[@loulousworld92]

@@Ethiopianexposer if you don’t care why are you watching the video and why even bother to comment under Camilla‘s post.

[@manis8569]

India is fucked up with its colourism problems. When I was a kid and went to school there, even teachers would discriminate in class against the darker coloured kids.

[@UzairKhan-qd3xu]

well INDIA's cosmetic industry is filled with FAIRNESS CREAMS so that tells a lot!

[@fionagallagherapologist5968]

i think its rooted in white supremacy tbh :(

[@무군]

Colorism is rooted both in white supremacist hierarchies established through colonialism by Europeans, but also classism to some degree. The understanding of what race is is also very different from the US. Asians don’t adopt a collective pan-Asian identity before we move to a place where we are the minority.

[@froggielady3204]

Wow. This was just, wow. The end where they are self reflecting gives me hope because this pretty much just proved that anyone of any color can be very racist to others and to their own race. That judging a book by it's cover is wrong.

[@fionagallagherapologist5968]

i wish they spoke more about the racism against asians in the black community because it exists! they go through a lot of discrimination as well, it may not be as "huge" as anti-blackness in the asian community but its still present and should be talked about edit : i see a lot of debate in the comments about which issue is "bigger" and that is so insane to me because both issues are important and should be talked about. that is not to erase the horrific consequences of anti-blackness but my og comment was about THIS video in particular, and in this video they barely talked about racism against asian people in the black community which is aggravating because to solve an issue, every side must be heard.

[@Chaipuffai]

I totally agree! I live in one of the most racially segregated cities of my state, and if I actually pay attention to what others say, I can hear some African Americans make some really rude and discriminatory remarks towards their fellow Asian peers. However, the same goes from the Asians to the African Americans .

[@elainexiao8086]

same here! i wish linh brought up her encounter with a black man to the group-it felt like that tension didn't really get relieved for her. all of the black participants admitted to coming with stereotypes about the asian community (being a passive monolith that only cares about themselves), but i feel like they didn't really touch on that enough. Eg. bad driver is definitely NOT the worst of it, and there are many negative aspects to "positive" stereotypes too. I hate how the model minority myth has intentionally segregated minorities in this competition of who's more "white" or who's more oppressed, and I felt like the prompts jubilee gave kinda perpetuated this competition. i wish this was way longer and unedited because this is a SUPER important convo to have. would've loved to see more questions about media portrayal, colorism, affirmative action, etc!

[@heulwan]

I was waiting for this to be brought up in the discussion but it wasn't! As an Asian growing up with predominantly black friends and spending a lot of time in black communities, I experienced a lot of prejudice but this reverse situation is rarely talked about.

[@fionagallagherapologist5968]

Elaine Xiao omg yeah !! the white privilege thing bugged me too because its simply not true :/ its a bit like they were minimizing the discrimination that asian people face literally everyday

[@fionagallagherapologist5968]

Ami im so sorry you had to go through that :( we have to do better

[@siathakur5847]

As a South Asian living in America it's outstanding how many people don't even realize how racist they are to south asian and how normal it is for people to just think racism is okay towards south asians

[@tsumi_the_hapa4009]

This is so true the amount of scrutiny south east Asians go through for just existing is so gross. No one deserves to be descriminated against

[@tsumi_the_hapa4009]

And I'm sorry you have to go through what you go through when people think about asian they always think china, Korea, and Japan but never recognize countries like laos, Cambodia, and the Philippines

[@lanajohnson7401]

South Asians are not successful. Thats why. Poor countries do not get the same respect obviously

[@Jjhkljhhjj]

@@lanajohnson7401 the Indian immigrants are the most successful though. Indians make the most money out of every other ethnicity in the US, UK and Canada.

[@NotJoegoldberg]

@@lanajohnson7401 lol most indians living abroad especially in the US are super successful and wealthy but ok.

[@whisper2284]

That Asian guy is such a beautiful human being. I cried along with him. Humans hurt one another unnecessarily.

[@remedytee]

His emotions are real. He starts of by saying that he wasn't privileged because of the color of his skin, only to follow it up (next sentence) by saying that people tell him he's eloquent and intelligent... i would argue that at least some of it is based on merit and education

[@whisper2284]

@@remedytee I hear ya. Privilege is rarely so simple. For example Pretty privilege is based upon someone’s appearance being considered attractive by the greater society. Their beauty was bestowed upon them through DNA, good genes and a societal definition of beauty that is based on their proximity to a white standard. However, consistent exercise, good diet, hydration and consistent skin care regimen play a role in it as well. There are many factors at play, but the underlying fact is society defines attractiveness. Just like the United States created the Model Minority Myth which gave Asians the space to better their status after the 1965 Immigration Act. An Act that came about as a result of Black Americans fighting for Civil Rights. Asians also benefited from Affirmative Action, Small loans to Minorities, establishment of opportunity zones in inner city neighborhoods so Asians could open businesses and receive tax breaks, and a whole host of other programs that Blacks were denied but were put in place because Black Americans fought for them. It is unfortunate to see how many educated Asians don’t understand the history of their rise in the United States, and the important role that Black Americans played in their ascension.

[@remedytee]

@@whisper2284 You are right about beauty standards. I think all races are susceptible to this all over the world. Someone who is handsome will have different interactions (but prejudices too). Yes, we live in a Western society that has idealized beauty for thousands of years. E.g. Spartans, but in fact thoughout Greek and Roman culture. Not saying that all Westerns are attractive though. But apart from racial tendencies.. In the US people were sterilized up until the 60s (white people included) for not adhering to certain standards, so let's not take it personal 😅

[@remedytee]

@@whisper2284 About these beauty standards... it is kind of normal that those who resemble white people have a "better shot", it's still a society governed by the West. It has its flaws, but what do you suggest? To implement African institutions? Asian? About the rights evolution and the impact of African Americans... i have no knowledge about that. But I imagine the impact was substantial. Can't imagine Asians raising their voice (that's a joke, no pun intended... I'm from Asian descent myself) 😂

[@whisper2284]

@@remedytee it is normal for the group that has the greatest power to define beauty in their own image. What is not okay about it is when that power broker hides the history of how the standard was conceived. There is no denying that the western powers’ advanced military methods, and weapons, warfare tactics and technological innovations have allowed them to amass great fortunes and power. That is an amazing fait accompli and their triumphs and success deserve acknowledgement. Yet, there is the problematic side of western powers that distorts history through omission and telling an incomplete story about the world.. Great Civilizations far older than Europe and America are rising again and will force a shift in all standards including beauty. China is becoming a massive Power broker, and India is developing at a fast pace. Investment in Africa is increasing considering Africa holds almost 60% of the world’s natural wealth in resources. The power balance will restructure and those peoples will want the world to know about their Dynasties and histories. Westerners will be forced to tell the truth about the past due to social media or get left behind. The standard will change via globalization. We already see China’s impact on Africa, the Caribbean and Central America. China’s model is NOT colonization. It is INVESTMENT in Infrastructure and Business. The locals can see the immediate benefits when the Chinese arrive unlike the Europeans and Americans who come there to extract resources, cause civil unrest and leave those countries poor and in debt to them.

[@buttercup293]

Wow, Tony. You touched my heart. So empathetic and kind, always willing to listen and educate yourself.

[@jkkmane]

When that lady said Asians never been oppressed, she must not know the history of korea and Japan lol.

[@riz5303]

yeah, we are still even oppressed now

[@志瑜杨]

Yep another reason Asian American history needs to be taught in the US. We have entire generations of people not knowing that Asians have dealt with racism and oppression.

[@RS-on3lp]

And the history of Chinese Americans, which is brutal and silent. As a half Asian half white person, I read about it for the first time (because our schools teach us nothing about AAPI history) and I cried.

[@nikhilprem7998]

bruhhhh heard of some thing like yellow peril etc.. but that was for chinese

[@志瑜杨]

@@RS-on3lp I’m Asian American and learned more Asian American history from FACEBOOK than all of my years in school from elementary school to the end of HS combined. University was better but there is always more room to improve though.

[@alixreu]

A discussion between Black Americans and Native Americans would be really insightful. Especially in regards to BLM. There is this really interesting article by CNN on how Native Americans are the forgotten minority in police shootings.

[@candancelazily8693]

Thank you, this needs to happen Natives get ignored

[@tylerknight9830]

i would say forgotten minority is a off-white phrase for this. BLM doesn't say that other minorities aren't being killed it's just highlighting the cases and instances where African Americans have tried to highlight what they view as injustice.

[@stillvillian]

Every race gets shot by the police why talk about natives when we haven’t even talked about the white people being shot.

[@candancelazily8693]

@@stillvillian White people mention White people getting shot, but its usually used negatively of course every race gets shot but people want to focus on what race gets killed the most But I want to focus on Natives because they are ignored or forgotten But lets also mention everybody else like you said

[@termlimits4congressx306]

It's true but the native Americans own the casino industry where I'm from. And they have they're own areas can hunt and fish exclusively. It's just different

[@BonazaiGirl]

Ouch, this was cringe to watch as a black person. Don’t get me wrong, this was fairly civil and some issues were addressed, but not some of the more pressing issues. Neither side really got to the meat of the issue and seemed to have a game of “misery poker” rather than discuss each other’s plight or issues. And when the black representatives laughed and acknowledged they had joked about racism against Asians, I was disheartened. Hypocrisy at its finest. It really shows how much of growth we need to do as a people, because we’re not seeing the other side. I do hope we get a do-over with a new cast that can be more willing to discuss with one-another about racial struggles and issues.

[@frankbaldizan3410]

Literally was going too comment the same thing. Thank you, you said it much better than I would’ve

[@teddybear979]

The questions were kinda disappointing too

[@V10-x1f]

True

[@ginama3162]

Hello everyone, It's Regina from the video. One thing I want to point out is this video's main discussion is why the black community and Asian community are allies or are not allies, thus framing many of the questions and possibly the cast . Another thing I want to point out is the video is edited!!!!! We had a longer richer conversation, with more questions and more answers. Some answers were for other questions, cut off, not included, etc. okay :) Please keep that in mind while you are watching this "conversation", it doesn't necessarily reflect the actual or full conversation had. Also, we were six people that stepped out of our comfort zone and put ourselves in a room full of cameras, and tried to have an unprepared open conversation. We as a cast are planning to come together to address some top questions but keep in mind, we entered that room with the purpose not to have a battle Royale, and for those that was looking for that tic for tac experience, please search within yourself of am I looking at a bigger problem that has caused a breakdown of social relationship or am I just looking to take my frustrations out, which can lead to further breakdown. I will say one last thing on behalf of this great group I was with, is we are all real people with our own full experiences that a 20 minute edited shared space video couldn't do justice to explain. Before calling anyone a poor representation of anything or projecting what you believe to be the beliefs of anyone in the video, keep that in mind. Hugs and kisses and thanks for watching the video.

[@Regmuslima]

@@ginama3162 Thank you for commenting, as it was also a concern of mine. I'm glad to hear there was a richer conversation but a little disappointed that we couldn't see that fully represented here. If it's true you guys might be coming back then I look forward to the next conversation you have and hopefully it will be edited a little bit better or perhaps be longer since it seems 20 minutes is not enough for the audience, as shown by most of the comments in the comment section

[@veedge1]

@jubilee you guys really need to come to South Africa. The conversations that need to be heard from our perspective would shock a lot of people.

[@nikrose5229]

They dont care about South Africa. They only care about creating racial division in America

[@adaezeokafor2242]

Yes like the xenophobic mindset, alarming black on black crimes

[@rainbowcity911]

i have said this many times and i will say it again. we can not compare apples and oranges. doing the oppression olympics will get us no where. race is very diverse and has so many factors such as nationality, class, gender, sexuality, religion, we cant generalize each others races either. what we should do is listen to each others stories.

[@Daniloetcetera]

Very good point made.

[@neverbackdown1918]

Um, what? First off, race doesn’t technically exist. Second, “race” has nothing to do with any of that. It’s simply skin color. What you’re talking about is ethnicity. This is why Hispanic/Latino are considered ethnicities, but not races.

[@tru2daci]

@@neverbackdown1918 clown🤡

[@mr.monocle4812]

@@neverbackdown1918 Can you elaborate on that?

[@neverbackdown1918]

@@mr.monocle4812 just look up the definitions. Race vs ethnicity. Ethnicity has to do with culture. Race just has to do with skin color. Sure, that makes us look different, but all humans are on average 99.9% similar. Why not eye color, height, or hair color? Skin color is just the most obvious. Also, Africa in itself has more genetic diversity than the rest of the world COMBINED, yet most Africans are black. Why is that? Because skin color isn’t some significant thing. Just to give an example, an Asian and a white person would probably be more genetically similar than two people from two different tribes in sub Saharan Africa. There is also speculation that the Toba super volcano catastrophe 70,000 years ago completely decimated human life to 10000 total survivors. If this is the case, then all nearly 8 billion people are descendants of these 10000. So yeah, we may look very different to someone else, but we aren’t that much different genetically. I’m not saying that we aren’t unique or different as human beings. Of course we are. However, the differences are not as significant as they seem. Two rats may look IDENTICAL to humans, but they could have more genetic variation than any two humans on earth. We are humans so we can easily pick up on human differences. We are also innately tribalistic. We are going to want to be with and protect those that look more like us. Whether you are aware of it or not, we always judge and put people into categories. That’s just how we are.

[@Anonymous-um3im]

We really need a African American and Hispanic talk. I feel that there’s been a lot of tension between us recently but there’s always been that black and brown unity at the same time too.

[@ep4801]

This one!

[@f0repl4y]

Why is there little to no tension between Hispanics and Asians?

[@_itsdelya_]

@@f0repl4y because of colourism, some ppl apart of the hispanic community are full on racists to darker ppl (including to black hispanics)

[@Anonymous-um3im]

@@_itsdelya_ ummm not really…. I’m Mexican and we ain’t really racist we just have stereotypes like for example one that is very common is that “black people are aggressive” But we ain’t racist Mexico has many different type of skin tones.

[@Anonymous-um3im]

@@_itsdelya_ or wait I think I may have misunderstood your comment are you talking about how Asians think towards Hispanics ?

[@TianZhaoHeavenlyFortune]

Hey Regina, if you can see this - I'm a tech worker too, I'm sorry you experienced that. I would NEVER ever say such things to a black coworker. I actually love the tech industry because I personally think the tech industry is way more inclusive than most other industries or at least tries to be. Regardless - I hope you don't leave the tech industry because of your negative experiences - the tech industry needs more diversity and just know that I'm an ally and have faith that there are more allies in the tech industry than foes.

[@basedabdu8653]

The tech industry in Israel needs more diversity

[@poopy2382]

It's really comforting to hear that. I'm sure if she sees this it'll give her some hope too.

[@joblessboy7030]

@@basedabdu8653 That Asian Spoke as if Blacks aren’t racist....I’m Asian and I see blacks discriminate Asians all the time. Double standards!

[@mochak8563]

@@joblessboy7030 “blacks” um yeah no that’s derogatory

[@basedabdu8653]

@@joblessboy7030 I understand. I just think that Israel needs more diversity. They should bring in millions of Ethiopians into Israel permanently

[@toppz1008]

As an asian immigrant, 12 years living in the US, my experience with racism and discrimination were from either Hispanic or Black.

[@HostileOfficial92]

Yea because y’all want to fit into WHITES category … THEY DONT LIKE ASIANS EITHER

[@xoho3462]

@@HostileOfficial92what is whites category exactly..? Such a silly statement.

[@RafaelaBittencourt-k3t]

Lmao, USA is a joke. Hispanic is a ethinic category in this country.

[@Taiminshao]

I went to a school mostly Asian I cried. Now I hate my skin tone

[@RS-on3lp]

There is no such thing as a “good” stereotype. Whenever there is a stereotype, there is negativity and hate. For example: Asian people being “smart”. This does three things. 1. Discredits the amount of work Asian individuals put in to study and go through in order to gain individual intelligence. As well as put stress on those who do not fit the stereotype. 2. As Linh said, it implies that other minorities are bad, 3. In both saying that Asians are naturally smart and that other minorities are unintelligent, it creates this idea that only white individuals work hard for their own intelligence. Feeding into the concept of white superiority. “Good” stereotypes benefit nobody.

[@wc7575]

I agree, but the stereotype does end up with Asians getting more opportunities.

[@RS-on3lp]

@@wc7575 I am aware of that, but we shouldn’t be excusing any kinds of stereotyping just because someone thinks it’s better for those in that race. When in reality the benefits are shading all of the negativity and prejudice resulting from said stereotype.

[@ironmantis25]

@@wc7575 No, getting high grades and being well-educated end up getting Asians more opportunities, the model minority stereotype is used to box Asians into a pre-defined role and trap us there. There are no good stereotypes.

[@xxnotmon939]

@@ironmantis25 do you know the stereotype of that is being held against us? Now we are being limited in where we can go college to because of apparently since we’re “smarter”, we can find other colleges and jobs easier. It would’ve work if only not many college do this.

[@loretoku4246]

@@colinshen7944 i will have to strongly disagree. being asian does not lower your chance of getting into college. in almost every ivy league university, the proportion of asians in schools like harvard is higher than their percentage of the population in cambridge, massachusetts. in many cases, asians make up the highest representation in these schools, only second to white people. asians are not penalized for the model minority rhetoric. your claim is inaccurate. in addition, many other minority groups also work hard. asians do not work harder than black people or hispanic people. no one is penalized for belonging to any group. in any case, while generally harmful to everyone, the model minority rhetoric does not negatively impact asian presence in colleges. in most cases, it does the opposite.

[@spammusubi1607]

Several other people have pointed this out already but Jubilee- why didn’t you guys include more South Asian voices??? If you’re gonna do one on Asians then you need to include a variety of us.

[@PyanY]

Exactly!!! South east asians! South asians! East asians! People gotta know how small of a bubble asians have been categorized in!

[@Anonymous-xm7rf]

Everyone needs to like this!

[@singergal07]

I wanna see a south Asian one next :(

[@Maxmillion77]

americans can't tell the difference that's why

[@bonappetit7522]

I mean the girl behind the camera sounds South Asian

[@jenttn1121]

I was incredibly disappointed by this discussion. The Black American perspective of Asian Americans here is the reason why Asian Americans need more representation. Asian American communities are complex, just like black communities. The values of Asian Americans differ with generation, age, country of origin, reason for immigration, and the area in America in which they settled. This could've been an educational discussion on the Asian American experience that is long overdue, but it fell flat.

[@Joseph-zd7kg]

I couldn't agree with you more

[@thevipblink8571]

👏👏👏

[@glowcat5691]

true, I wanted to see both sides of perspective. Love this vid do, shows us minorities have to stick together

[@keniku]

Yes, I agree Jubilee should have opened the discussion enough to talk about the oppressive history Asians have also suffered. However, the biggest issue they needed to address here was the legitimate privilege East Asians tend to have over the Black community. We, too, need to check our privilege to open the conversation. Maybe Jubilee will ask these necessary questions next time!

[@singbin]

oh, boo hoo. keep crying...

[@ebonysharee]

One thing I know about Black folks is we patronize Asian businesses a lot. From food to hair...we don't shy away at ALL. I grew up in Seattle where there are so many different Asian restaurants. My aunt also worked in a Cantonese restaurant in St. Louis so, I even learned how to make Egg Foo Young too! It's really all about how you view the world around you and what you are willing to learn and teach. I am so happy with my upbringing because it taught me to respect other cultures that were different from me and embrace others. I think it is SO important to unify. They want to divide and conquer but it's up to us to reject that. *my two cents*

[@Cocoafropuffs]

I feel like this was the right topic but something was off here. Like it didn’t seem to truly accomplish what I think the intended goal was. The video wasn’t bad, I just feel like there should have been more discussion on racism among each other. Not about “you have a struggle but my struggle is more than yours.” Maybe I was looking for a more in depth discussion...but this is definitely a start. I feel there’s a level of unlearning we have to do on both sides and re-teaching as well.

[@mentalchillnesss]

People call it the oppression Olympics for a reason.

[@msushi98]

I agree so so much! Even looking through some of the comments here just disappoints me. It’s not a competition, it’s about banding together and standing against racism of all kinds in solidarity.

[@Cocoafropuffs]

@@msushi98 exactly!! And I was kinda disappointed as well. But it all starts with a better behavior. I know I had Korean neighbors and they never spoke to anyone (we were more so a black neighborhood). But no one ever spoke to them either, so me being me...I waved to them and welcomed them. They seemed shocked for a moment but were smiling and happy I said anything nice. For then on we talked and helped each other if needed. So it’s all about ridding ourselves of misperception and prejudice we have toward each other.

[@gegilso]

I guess white struggles are equal to Asian, Hispanic, and Black struggle then.

[@redbenada798]

@@gegilso you missed the point

[@kaylapham8321]

Jubilee need to redo this fr.

[@micah2887]

Nah,I like the video. Go watch another video if it doesn't fit your interest but to me this is fine

[@chocolate_mousse5684]

I honestly wished they included the issues that they have to go through and not just compare to the other race to see who had it much worse. It would’ve been more interesting and relatable as well

[@brianna094]

@@chocolate_mousse5684 yeah except they won't because it's race baiting and this is what the liberal agenda is. They want to create chaos so we're all against each other. This is most media today and everyone believes it

[@goldenwarrior4727]

Well I heard they went in more detail but much if the video got cut due to time constraints.

[@Thai_nerd69]

@@brianna094 exactlyy why u believe the clown who most likely is a racist and sits on the internet all day,do better.

[@colorfulcodes]

Dang I feel so fortunate. I'm a black girl in tech and Asian people have been the main one's rooting for me and helping me get opportunities. More than my own tbh. This was an amazing discussion that needed to be had thank you 🙏🏾 Edit: 11 hours later I come back to this comment and people are using my experience to discuss politics and invalidate the woman's own experience. 🤢 Embarrassing. 😔 There are ignorant people in every race. I've experienced prejudiced commentary from every race, even growing up in NY tbh. However in my years in tech and finally employed I've realized those willing to help me most did not look like me at all. Which was actually surprising 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@determined919]

Yeah but black people are SOOO oppressed right?

[@e.e9596]

@@determined919 What purpose does your comment serve?

[@Musicalgirl02]

@@e.e9596 exactly. unnecessary as hell.

[@arigold3099]

Gotta love that affirmative action amirite???😆

[@haylienbeauty2380]

@@determined919 what is ths white dude doing here this isnt even about you dummy

[@candacedolls4048]

I love TONY. The compassion is so appreciated

[@mew7661]

I'd love to see something between African Americans and Black British people.

[@scarlao]

I was about to comment the same! I wanna be on Middle Ground as a Black Brit

[@cocoajames5]

most black british people are mostly from africa. so i believe that it should be africans that were born in europe/africa. my aunt is british-nigerian

[@scarlao]

@@cocoajames5: that is not true. Most Black British people are from the Windrush Generation and generations that followed so most British people are Caribbean.

[@cocoajames5]

@@scarlao well most black british in the media are mostly from sub saharan africa. i'm not saying that other groups of black people don't exist in britain, i'm just saying the ones that are most common.

[@cocoajames5]

@@scarlao and as you know africa was colonized by europeans so that's why some countries may speak french or portuguese. it's like lagos nigeria. there's a city in portugal called lagos too. the portuguese colonized that part and named the city lagos. that's what my mom told me

[@chihiroogino7464]

I appreciate Tony normalizing men getting emotional enough to shed a tear.

[@j0sh_u_a892]

Yes, I love it

[@singbin]

i love Tony sm.

[@sugaspice7684]

and also men supporting eachother expressing emotions when the other guy put his hand on his shoulder

[@nubbiewubbie7285]

The day my father cried in my presence was the day he stopped being my father.

[@tonikoku3518]

@@nubbiewubbie7285 huh

[@flipperboy2754]

Y’all should do African American VS Hispanic/Latin Americans.

[@JupiterKnight]

ASIAN MASTER RACE OVER BLACKS

[@josephgarcia3284]

@@JupiterKnight no tf

[@jmrmtch1138]

Why, Hispanics and blacks are cool

[@harperwhite8570]

@@jmrmtch1138 yes and no we have some stuff to work out

[@jen_greatguys2721]

@@jmrmtch1138 as a 1st generation latinx/hispanic, we were mostly taught to judge people base on nationality, color of their skin then race bc we come in all shade of the rainbow. that being said, i remember growing up, we would speak spanish when were around people who doesnt look like us or sound like us. but then u have people from Haiti and DR and PR and central america who were also affected by the slave trade but no one doesn’t see or want to know that bc of the influence on american history and culture. Hispanic had the end of the stick during the civil rights movement bc no one talks about our culture and the influence that we did to help other minorities during that time period. Hell we have ignorant people in the community that doesn’t want to get out of that mindset of “i work my ass off here the ‘legal’ way so why cant u?” knowing why or go “dont hang out with them bc they’ll group us up”

[@jeffery1855]

Wow, did they cut something out in the last prompt? Nobody mentioned how black people were targeting elderly asians during the pandemic? It feels like there's a slant towards Black Americans in this video...

[@derrickdavis862]

There was a story that released that talked about most of those being FBI setups to push more bills and such… most of those were scams

[@duckmercy11]

A few homeless crackheads attacking people don't represent a whole group.

[@moriahhamilton7436]

This Asian guy was so honest and unfiltered. I'm proud

[@ronalddeleon3991]

I love how he recognized our compassion as black people despite how we are portrayed we are very giving and hospitable people who would give the shirt off our backs.

[@moriahhamilton7436]

@@ronalddeleon3991 I agree, the black community wholeheartedly appreciates acknowledgement and truth

[@jamilmccall6553]

Great stuff

[@Hboogie182]

He's a libtard. He thinks he got to where he's at because he has white privileges. The dude discredits himself and throws out all of his merits.

[@davidsilverfield835]

Yup

[@xd-wk3hp]

reminder that asia isn’t just east asia... there’s south asia, south east asia, central asia, and western asia. edit: jubilee said in the comments below that this video was focused on east asian americans finding common ground with black americans.

[@dominicpersaud1155]

@Mr Doggo Lads Lol facts

[@dr.woozie7500]

This is an American thing. In the UK, “Asians” refer to South Asians from India, Pakistan, etc.

[@amirulazizol844]

southeast asia as well

[@xd-wk3hp]

@@dr.woozie7500 yeah that’s completely true, i was speaking from an american stance anyways😅

[@Sachin25279]

@@dr.woozie7500 ikr I’m an English-Indian person and when people over here say Asian they mean people from all of Asia, not a specific area

[@alanahelen8876]

I’m a black American and where I live in the south there’s not many Asians that you would see but I still respect them and I don’t downplay nobody’s experience with racism. I think everyone should just respect each other and learn to live in the same environment with each other.

[@datsusasa]

I couldn't agree more! The whole "who's more oppressed" thing is kinda weird

[@acidman5]

Yeah I’m from the south and I don’t see to many Asians here and if I do I don’t really have an issue with them. It seems to be racial problem between Asians and blacks in the north part and west part of the country.

[@oh_omo7989]

Yea like y’all this isn’t a competition everyone has their own experiences

[@talani7450]

@@datsusasa it was really weird

[@micah2887]

@@datsusasa it wasn't weird at all..im sry that your not open minded

[@shainahuntsberry6758]

The Black and Asian communities have so much more in common than what is realized and seeing this connection formed through this beautiful conversation is truly inspiring. Together, we can do more and build each other up. That duo is beyond powerful and I hope to see more of it:)

[@agustin2812]

Asians are much more racist than whites. the Chinese, Japanese and Hindus pff very racist.

[@pinheadlarry4538]

@@agustin2812 Blacks are more racist than everyone most anti-Asian hate crimes are committed by Black people

[@SkankHunt42isback]

Yup the asians own nice stuff, and the blacks own the asians stuff after they rob them.

[@Mylesknox]

@@pinheadlarry4538if black people were truly the most racist would they have fought for civil rights and immigration reform? Which paved the way for every non black person in America to even come? NO! The only thanks black people got was a spit in there face

[@sidogga1234]

White people will be scared when all minorities band together to suppress racial discrimination and white supremacy.

[@staninsertkpopgroup1181]

I dislike that when the term "Asian" is used it's mainly referring to east Asians

[@littleboots9800]

In the UK when you say Asian mostly ppl would assume you meant Indian, pakistani, Bangladeshi etc. You would clarify if you meant Chinese or Malaysian or whatever.

[@Andy-zm8bq]

yeah its usually south-east/east asian, when they refer to asian. But i think the reason behind it is that south asians and east/southeast asia are just so different. But yeah they should've just specified in the title as east/south-east asian.

[@littleboots9800]

@Melaucity yeah, its cos indians, Pakistanis etc make up the bulk of our Asian population I guess. In Australia they use the term like in the US because they have so many more Chinese/ Malaysians/Philippino Asians.

[@taforacho5693]

This !! Like why couldn’t they invite any southern Asians such as Indians?

[@Andy-zm8bq]

@@taforacho5693 Maybe because east asians/southeast asians are a lot more similar in terms of culture/looks than south asia.

[@izadorad]

I would love to see white Latinos vs Afro Latinos. But like dark skin Afro Latinos ones you don’t see as often.

[@martharigby]

...vs mestizo latinos (mestizx latinxs) as well

[@minbum2320]

@@BlackCamaro198 what are you even talking about

[@whateverferes7225]

@@BlackCamaro198 search on Google Gisele Bundchen shes a Brazilian so shes latina and shes white. Search IZA on Google she's black and shes latina as well

[@PoutineProductions]

I would like to see white Mexicans from the city and the native Mexicans from Pueblos or Villages.

[@AB-yk2pq]

@@BlackCamaro198 Latino isn't race,simply because you can be Latino/a and be any race.

[@janelm7645]

i’m a little disappointed in these questions implicitly centering around the oppression of the Black community. of course, we should ALWAYS be talking about how we can further support the Black community, and there’s no question that Black people have experienced more oppression in American History than Asians, and there is a huge problem of Anti-Blackness within the Asian American community. but Asian Americans have their own history of oppression in this country that is just as valid, and those struggles so often get blown off or over looked. racism against Asians is one of the few kinds of blatant racism that is still so socially acceptable and normalized. hell, most of the Black people in this video don’t even realize it. that wasnt highlighted or talked about the way it deserves to be, the way that it really needs to be.

[@rowena0723]

Completely agree with you. A lot of covert racism in this video.

[@janelm7645]

@@rowena0723 SO much. the Black folks in this video made generalizations about Asians way too easily here, and didn’t even question themselves.

[@ghog4792]

@@janelm7645 speaking facts

[@cloudy.jpg.]

She said we go the good stereotype 🙄is annoying as an Asian American it’s a bit rude

[@cairawilliams93]

You just all lives mattered this video...... I didn't need to get to the but to know you were going to shoot down everything Black in this video. When someone says something then says but that is a contradiction to everything just stated. You said a lot of fluff then negated all of it to satiate the agenda that obviously asians are the TRUE victims here.

[@greencowtd]

Ya know, I’m glad I watched this. 1) I’m glad to see our two cultures finally having this discussion 2) I’m glad to be acknowledged as a black person that they are aware that their community does this and 3) I’m glad that no all Asians believe in disliking us

[@ademolaabu372]

They just being funny not racist cause they were the first great people of earth. These ones should go and ask there eldest people in their communities how they first made relationships with black people before caucasions.

[@rustysky81]

Most Asians dislike black people. And if I narrow it down then it will be African Americans. Now some of us know the difference between a black person and a megro. Unfortunately the African American diaspora is probably 30% black and 70% megro.

[@59Gretsch]

Get serious, these two “communities” or not talking or getting together this is simply a KZbin production. These two groups are as opposite as any two groups in the world, how can you find common ground?

[@sjpark1991]

I kinda think a lot of “racist Asians” are generally older Asians (our parents generation) who grew up in their own Asian countries that have no diversity. Us younger generation understand diversity better. EDIT: To clarify, I'm talking about younger people here in the US, not asia. I was also talking about Korea, where i grew up until i was 11 or so

[@TheAgentOfDeath]

What do you mean by diversity? Typically boba liberal here.

[@ekoyal_gemu4446]

No they don't

[@hlpss92123]

Where are you from tho? Cuz at least in my country the majority of young people is till very ignorant and even unaware of the fact that they are being racist smh. I think we shouldn’t suggest that racists are generally older people even though some of them indeed are not quite used to or willing to accept different people and idea, I have actually met some old people that are very open-minded and acceptive. But I agree that the lack of diversity does have huge impact on the ignorance and racist behaviors of many Asians.

[@Sophie-ni8qm]

Tbh my parents and a lot of the people I know come from china and are first gen immigrants, but they are learning to be more acceptable. They're not perfect, but everyone has their flaws, but they're still learning and trying to become more accepting, despite having grown up in a less diverse environment.

[@whooah]

No. The younger people are racist too.

[@Big3DREAMER]

Growing up I feel like racism vs Asian's was almost normalized, we didn't have much of a political voice and we were taught to just put our heads down and go to school. On the flip side we as a community also weren't very vocal about social injustice issues, because it seemed like no one stood up for us. But all that is in the past. We are 100% allies, the racism that i dealt with growing up, it doesn't compare to the racism that my black brothers and sisters have gone through in this country. So yes, black lives matter and many of us asian's will support the fight for equality forever.

[@jewelmiller6367]

We are 100% allies! We always have, but white supremacy loves to divide minorities every chance it gets. There were so many Asian Americans involved in the civil rights movement but they were erased from that part of history. That breaks my heart ❤️ but Thank you 🙏 for your kind words.

[@apen8440]

@Caleb DeCoteau ok white

[@apen8440]

Why TF is there even a race war

[@jewel7784]

well said. while racism against the black community is highly prevalent and obviously terrible, racism against Asians has always been basically considered a joke and something that's just normal. we don't really speak up much either and get involved in politics, so others just continued to think that mocking and insulting us based on our races was fine. it's ridiculous.

[@tinalove4324]

I don’t think we’re even close to becoming allies ever

[@amarireeves4336]

They really didn’t talk about Asian racism and the impact on Asians being a “model minority” gives along with the Feminization of Asian men in TV movies and everyday life. As well as the fetishization of Asians.

[@phenitagomes1292]

Perhaps a different kind of episode. Right

[@acegikm]

I've been meeting some of the best single men ever, since I realized Asian men will often be single because of stereotypes against them. Most single men of other races I meet have other issues that keep them from dating longterm. So I've been meeting Asian men online, and haven't been disappointed. A lot of awesome Black women and Asian men are only single due to silly stereotypes.

[@lozer93gurl]

As a black person, I also wish they talked about the pressure the “model minority” stereotype puts on Asian Americans. They should do a separate video on that and the other two.

[@user-tt6be2zx3h]

those two are VITAL in understanding the asian struggle.. esp asian males..

[@FieryJuniper]

"Model citizens" are we victims suddenly? No people! We earned that respect for working our asses off without a moment to question. People if you want to stop racism, then stop talking about it and put on some pants have some backbone.

[@PaigePlates]

At 17:30 This girl really said I don’t think Asian’s experience as much racism because they are a smaller group of people in a smaller minority. Girl that by definition makes them more of a minority because there’s less of them. A smaller minority is more of a minority hahahaha

[@siiiiiuu7]

Seriously. This whole thing was just one big butt-kissing, groveling session. Our horrific experiences as minorities don't count. Please like us and accept us. Pffft bye.

[@pdx13]

literallly @paige

[@wiseguy240Winston]

They weren't experiencing much racism as black ppl till the pandemic.

[@siiiiiuu7]

@@wiseguy240Winston Comments like this only reveal great ignorance about the struggles of groups outside your own. It costs nothing to be quiet 🤷🏽‍♀

[@blakelip3]

Middle Ground: Black Americans vs Africans we have lots of baggage to unpack within our own community

[@FlowerTower]

Black Americans ARE African Americans. Wtf?

[@blakelip3]

@@FlowerTower people in the comments don’t think so it must be a difference somewhere

[@blakelip3]

@@FlowerTower the discussion between Africans and black Americans need to be had

[@FlowerTower]

@@blakelip3 Uh... African Americans are descended from transatlantic slavery. African American and black American are interchangable. African American DOES NOT refer to african booty scratchers who just moved to America last year. Y'all still African - say that. Say, "I'm Cameroonian." or whatever tf you are. Y'all have no identity so you be pressed AF to steal the identity of the supreme black folks. Please find some culture.

[@HAPPILYANTALIE]

@@FlowerTower were not African in the sense we don’t know our culture there’s a difference

[@troib.7991]

This conversation needed to happen.

[@FriedrichBarb]

What does "Are we allies?" even mean? allies against what?

[@wizkhalifa828]

@@FriedrichBarb are we allies, rather than opposed to each other

[@sweetenlemons8659]

Indeed

[@amulyakadaba8906]

Agreed! Much love to everyone! The conversation definitely opened my eyes! ❤️

[@forrmyheart]

@@nendu4316 exactly

[@ienjoydrpepper5938]

As an asian american, the people who have been the most racist to me are not racist because of their race, but their age. It is either older people who are stuck in an older time, or young people who have not been educated properly or at all. Edit: by young I mean below 20

[@edmundlau94]

I definitely feel that older Asians are more overtly racist, but younger Asian Americans have a lot of internalized racism. Just a peek at the Subtle Asian Traits page surrounding any discussions on BLM will bring all the young anti-black Asian Americans out of the woodworks and into the comments. I have personally heard a lot of young AAPI vocalize this us vs. them mentality when it comes to activism and progress. A lot of people feel like in order to prop themselves up, they need to put others down or that if another community gains, theirs suffers. We have to realize that we aren’t trying to gain privileges (privileges implies one is systemically better than the other), we’re trying to gain acceptance and understanding, but we don’t need to do it by destroying the other side.

[@YourFriendSJ]

Disagree. This minimizes the experience of many people and leads us to conclude that it’s mainly the older folks who are racist. There are many young racist people. Look at all the hateful young white people on social media. There are young Asian Americans who get nervous on elevators, who are inadvertently racist. It’s the young Asian Americans who get uncomfortable when placed in your group in college. It’s not just old people.

[@ienjoydrpepper5938]

@@YourFriendSJ did you read what I typed? I said young people are racist too

[@ienjoydrpepper5938]

@@YourFriendSJ also it's not just White people and Asians who are racist, anyone of any race can be racist.

[@YourFriendSJ]

@@ienjoydrpepper5938 You said that young people are racist because they’re not educated and that’s not true. There are tonnes of educated people - like the young Asian Americans in colleges - or the coworker in the video who told the participant to “talk differently” that are racist. It’s not a lack of education issue - it’s a hate issue. And by you claiming that it is - you’re minimizing the problem at hand. There are educated racist young people.

[@demigodfangirl721]

This video was hard to watch. The utter ignorance some of the participants had, grouping all asians as a monolith, only addressing anti-blackness in asian communities..... So frustrating to watch

[@queenpoots562]

I wish they added a variety of Asian people like Cambodians or Filipinos that come from a more diverse community.

[@91toinfinity]

Wasn't the Faith girl Filipino?

[@rafizsadique4299]

Also South Asians. Great episode otherwise but was kinda disappointed by the absence of South Asians when the title said 'Asian Americans'.

[@91toinfinity]

@@rafizsadique4299 Asia is a huge continent with so many countries. There's no way they could've included everyone. Also, it's COVID, so there's a limit on the number of people gathering.

[@rafizsadique4299]

@@91toinfinity Yup I know but still. They coulda gone with one South, one East, one SE Asian. Voila! All 3 represented. Instead, South was left out.

[@91toinfinity]

@@rafizsadique4299 But then what about Central Asia?!?!

[@watercloud-j8z]

The problem with the model minority myth is that it ignores the fact that positive Asian stereotypes actually root from racism. The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 and Immigration Act of 1924 barred Asians from immigrating to the United States. Now only those with enough money are able to actually emigrate from Asia and come to the US. That's why Asian Americans are stereotyped to be rich and educated. And it in fact causes a lot of harm in the Asian American community because they are expected to live up to this standard. People stay in toxic relationships and abuse their children to keep this reputation of high education and low divorces. And they always feel the pressure to assimilate.

[@worshipthecomedygodseoeunk4010]

exactly. the only asians usually who dont come here rich and educated are the refugees who usually come from southeast asian countries like Vietnam, Thailand, or Cambodia. so for them trying to live up to the standard is wayyy too unrealistic considering their circumstances escaping war, poverty, political genocide, etc. which can circulate intergenerationally as trauma, as well as all the practical economic and social struggles of reintegrating with little support from outside and often being placed in poor urban neighborhoods with high structural violence and poor quality housing. And still, it affects east asians too, because as new generations pass by, the cultural expectations/racism stays even though the new generations are trying to assimilate even more into white society. So there comes to be identity crises. Nowadays young people overall are struggling compared to previous gens and so keeping up with that standard is becoming increasingly difficult. almost impossible. not every asian is a rich successful entrepeneur or daughter of a millionaire. most aren't. so it is frustrating.

[@ganquan4419]

Underrated comment, I’m actually learning about the Chinese Exclusion Act. What I got was: America based their racism and built their gate-keeping model from the era of Chinese Exclusion. The difference between the Chinese immigrants and the black immigrants then, is that America can send the Chinese back, but they couldn’t send the African Americans back.

[@mrsnavy7034]

When all Asians move to "I want to be accepted by white people" I was like DAMNNN

[@MC-uf8qo]

@@worshipthecomedygodseoeunk4010 YES YES YES

[@tadm123]

Lol, if you go to Asian countries and see their family culture and the expectations/pressure that parents put on their kids, especially China, the parents are extremely demanding to their kids so they study and overpeform academically by putting overwhelming pressure, which can do more hard than good sometimes This is typically Chinese/Asian culture, outside the US and inside the US. This is why the stereotype exists, because culturally Asian parents are extremely demanding. Not because some law the united states passed 100 years ago.

[@baeoshi]

Do a black men vs black women discussion on gender issues & roles, colorism, racism, swirling, etc in the black community.

[@jordandummie6276]

Def wanna see

[@baeoshi]

@Mel when a black person gets when a white person or non-black person

[@lizziedanse8335]

I love the idea but this platform may not be the best for it.

[@baeoshi]

@@lizziedanse8335 it’s on here (: itd just be on a major channel for everyone (diverse) to see. & they already see “the issues” everywhere else

[@lizziedanse8335]

@@baeoshi Yes, there are indeed. So thankful for them. I'm thinking here might not be good because the platform IMO is good at bring out the drama in discussion versus a deep dive.

[@KristianWashington-n1j]

Tony moved me to tears of joy and relief with his compassionate words. He inspired me to include compassion when discussing difficult topics.

[@creamymarshmxllow2830]

Sure, Asians have the quote on quote “good stereotypes” but does that make it okay for people to be racist to us? Racism against Asians is so normalized and acceptable in the eyes of the media.

[@fchu616]

True

[@AP-pk6mk]

They all agreed that was wrong and needed to stop. Everyone was in agreement

[@wenjiaguo2113]

the thing about our stereotypes is that most of them were created in the 1960s by white people to create a division between us and other poc. it’s worked, and now we’re stuck as the “ privileged poc who don’t actually face racism “

[@andrea-ns6vq]

@@wenjiaguo2113 someone gets! you have the luxury of not having to prove yourself twice as hard in job fields because they'll often think that you're undeserving of your position or there due to affirmative action.

[@wenjiaguo2113]

@@andrea-ns6vq and with that luxury comes abuse lmfao the amount of people i don’t know begging me for test answers everyday is crazy but yes it’s still a luxury to be overestimated then underestimated

[@Ilyche]

i wish they talked about racism against Asians in blacc community because they are acting like it doesn’t exist lol racism against Asian is so downplayed they are told to take it as a joke when it’s still as serious lol. ALSO-I didn’t write this comment so someone can say no one is racist against Asians stfu w ur opinion

[@alma942]

racism against asians is SOOOO downplayed:(

[@Ilyche]

@@alma942 exactly and it needs to stop

[@lea3049]

Asian Americans exhibit anti black sentiments and discriminate towards African Americans all the time but try to make it seem like it’s a two way street. Do you really think black ppl HATE Asian the way Asians hate black ppl?? This isn’t a vice versa situation.

[@Dropkickurteacher]

@@lea3049 We as black people should know how it feels to receive racists comments, no excuse at all to be racist. Stop with the whataboutism, racism is racism. And I’m going to be brutally honest: some black people hate Asian people the same way the kkk hates minorities, because unfortunately and frustratingly a lot of Asian people have been violently attacked or killed by people who look like us. You should be ashamed of yourself for pretending there aren’t some black people that hold an Anti-Asian mindset.

[@lea3049]

@@Dropkickurteacher I wonder what happened to my reply...

[@standZ4]

The guy with the hat already has a seat in heaven. He really feels for the people that accepted him, to the point that he's crying. That's so real.

[@ИванИвановИванович-т1ф]

No one has ever gotten into heaven for being sensitive.

[@EclecticallyEccentric]

@@ИванИвановИванович-т1ф No one has ever gotten in for a lack of empathy, either.

[@roshi_blackent.88]

@@ИванИвановИванович-т1фu just had ur comment turned on u hard🤣

[@munkqiking7207]

@@ИванИвановИванович-т1ф Oh excuse me, so youve already been there? No, no you havent. Get a grip.

[@lauroseva]

I love his hat haha

[@hydraelectricblue]

Oh this was an important one. Tye dye boy made me tear up. Also mind-blown when the one lady brought up that she knew she was viewed as a model minority but also pointed out that she knew she was being used by white people against black people. She’s playing chess not checkers. I loved the honesty in this.

[@So-what692]

Yes I wish more biracial people (blk/white mixture) could be this honest. Instead they project their emotions of not having “daddy” around and being raised by white women as a way of not feeling accepted by blk people yet in the same sentence claim they feel more accepted by blk people. most admit they were raised in predominantly white communities where they were treated and looked different than their peers and white family members. So why not express those same sentiments of not feeling accepted by the culture you are raised in. Instead they try to push acceptance onto blk people specifically blk women because they know there is a color hierarchy in the blk community…..

[@hydraelectricblue]

@@So-what692 I'm actually biracial and I agree 100%. My community has some major issues with anti blackness and colonizer mindsets. I'm embarrassed how we've been all over TikTok. I've seen white people more educated about white supremacy than some biracial people are and it's embarrassing. I use to be uneducated but I was younger. There's no excuse for someone past a certain age acting like that. I was adopted and raised by a white conservative family in the South. If I can educate myself out of that type of thinking that I was raised with, anyone can.

[@dariusbrown7870]

I believe she was used by the one family she mentioned in particular but I wouldn’t generalize and say she was used by “white people” as sort of collective.

[@vg7735]

Just a way for her to not take responsibility for her own actions. Blame whitey for manipulating you. Big bad whitey.

[@edwardduda4222]

This conversation would be wayyyyyyy different if this wasn’t filmed in LA

[@minimistmoehre6400]

Or in the US in general.

[@user-ui5lo4ye3h]

Am curious, why?

[@officerbrown9709]

@@user-ui5lo4ye3h because everywhere else isn’t full of other ethnicities. a lot of states are just black and white people.

[@xwrtk]

Just for the record. They don’t always have all LA people in every video except ones with kids.

[@RenSayLess]

@@officerbrown9709 cities**

[@cheriehughes5660]

When Tony started crying and talking about how Asians still get the benefit of the doubt despite their racism it broke my heart.

[@songxia735]

Cherie Hughes It's pretty embarrassing tbh. Crying over such a small matter.

[@ぼじん-o5r]

@@songxia735 some people are more sensitive than others. There's no "crying too much" about these things

[@MsFiyi]

@@songxia735 You just full-on displayed your lack of empathy

[@ajones2367]

@@songxia735 it's small to YOU but that really touched me as a black person that he recognized that and genuinely cared.

[@AnimeUni-versed]

LOOOLLLL I personnally found it very unnecessary that he would cry on camera like that.

[@lexil.1170]

as an american, i feel like most americans ive met have referred to asians as only being east asian... like come on there’s india, russia, iran, myanmar, the philippines, turkey, and so much more

[@zahrasaghir8657]

turkey is European/Middle Eastern and yes Iran is in Asia but many would argue it's middle eastern it even shows up anywhere on google. The Middle East isn't exactly a continent but a region.

[@MizanQistina]

@@zahrasaghir8657 Middle East is Asia

[@blackvelvet6165]

@@zahrasaghir8657 We're still Asian tho

[@quirkiebean793]

@@MizanQistina Its Afro-Eurasian. It says so. Iran is considered Asian, Turkey is considered more European, and the areas more inland on the peninsula is known as Afro-Eurasian. Egypt is considered African. This isn't me denying anything, its fact.

[@lexil.1170]

lmao i meant east asia*

[@kev4850]

This video needed some Southeast Asian candidates. I live in California and growing up, a lot of southeast asian (mostly Cambodian and Laotian) kids grew up in poor poverty affected communities that consisted of both Latino/African Americans. I was one of those kids, and most of the times, the asians were the minorities in those neighborhoods, so we dealt with a lot more hatred than the other groups probably did within the community. Take some gangs like TRG and Asian Boys for example. Those gangs were only created because the asians that migrated into these communities needed to protect themselves from the violence that was happening so often to them.

[@s9ka972]

South Asians too specifically Indians

[@judeduarte6179]

Racism and Colorism is a big issue here in Asia that should be talked about more.

[@guyeswanson7958]

The idea that pale people are elite due to not having to work is ridiculous, this is a modern world. What sort of lame ass loser gets through life without working a single day? The type that are toys for those that have spent their lives working.

[@tsumi_the_hapa4009]

It's kinda crazy that we both have some of the same issues especially with colorism and racism we have to have a duologue about it.

[@tsumi_the_hapa4009]

@@guyeswanson7958 I think it comes from deeply rooted self hatred. I for asian side it comes from royalty never having to leave their palaces and the more in power you were or your higher position it means you were more lighter and those who had to work outside or didn't have the luxury to stay indoors which leads to the thing of when you're lighter skinned (east asian) vs deeper skin (south east asian). But for black (american) people it stems from slavery where slave owners would rape enslaved women to have lighter skinned black people who in more times than not would be treated more fairly then again those who worked outside. They were still treated as second class citizens but we're treated better than deeper skinned black people. Which does infact lead to light skin privilege which lighter skinned black people (although still seen as black people, but treated better) have an advantage over those with deeper skin tones. I hope this helps a little

[@nnyv0040]

There are lots of KZbin videos about colorism in Korea, India, and in Latino and African Americans communities etc.

[@dowlernatasha1396]

It is colorism but not related to western idea of colorism. In asian countries, women started to think having a whiter skin is better. darker skin means you do labor outside. They were aware of societal stigma about it and that men do not like women with tanned skin.

[@ITSRACHELNINA]

As a person who is both Black and Asian I personally feel like this didn’t hit hard enough on issues between the communities or on how history came into play and created the current situation. It’s a great start to the conversation, but it seems like a lot of the issues were glossed over in a sense. It might be more specific to my experience and the people I have been associated with, but there are often huge issues when it comes to being friends, dating, marriage, workplace privilege, being mixed, beauty standards, etc. I think both sides could have been focused on more so as well. I would’ve liked to hear about Asian pressure from family and tradition, how Asian culture accepts White culture at times but not others as openly, etc. It also would’ve been great to hear about how Asian language terms affect perception and standards. Same thing with American slang.

[@Rose-xm4og]

I agree with you 100%. They spoke about the current issues but not necessarily the root why Blacks and Asians go on different roads.

[@hawkgaming3029]

@@Rose-xm4og the answer is its easier to divide and demoralize, the simple fact is its only been 50 or so years since we have even gotten to a point where people can have the conversation about racism in america, the big thing and this is something where everyone has dropped the ball even moreso with trump, is that people are not being taught to be strong and to be above yourself. I have a one year old mixed boy as a jamaican man who grew up in canada, i have alot of perspective on everything and in my mind the biggest problem is, when are we going to get to a point when everyone is strong enough to defend others against the up in the air racism that gets brought up, what could it have been if asian and black people who had to work on building american railroads in the 1800s, took up for one another back then? we will never know sadly, but the thing that comes up after that then is how can we as people strengthen ourselves to the point where we take up for others? where its not about your skin color but about who you are as a person, i have to be the one to find this answer for my son because he is the next generation. Ironically my answer is simple I will use Jamaica's coat of arms as my strength in defending those that put up with these intolerences, “Indus Uterque Serviet Uni” means in english " Out of Many, One People" this country needs more unity, it needs people to better themselves, to love and respect their fellow man or we will never change or get better.

[@Joseph-zd7kg]

@@Rose-xm4og Not necessarily true. Asian men experience far more racism when dating then asian women since asian women go out of their way to date white guys while asian men struggle dating. Black women experience a similar issue when it comes to black men dating out but to a lesser degree. Neither of these issues were talked about but I think this is one area where black women and asian men can relate too and connect on. There is also a rise of black women and asian men dating since both groups share similar values and likeness in terms of family oriented, work ethic (black women being the most educated and entrepreneur minded) etc. I think recognition of black women and asian men dating seems to be more popular in korea. I rarely see americans open up this conversation. It seems to always come down to which race begs the most for white acceptance

[@maxscratch3759]

It would have also been interesting to really breach the topic of gentrification of black neighborhoods and how Asian communities push the original residents of those places out and monopolize their local economies while simultaneously pushing extremely anti-black rhetoric

[@Joseph-zd7kg]

@The most creative Username Blasian is a term used to describe Black and asian mix, DUH

[@xaamcdx]

Bless that Asian man, honestly black and Asian people should stand together, I wish we could, we both face so much

[@sydnacious4239]

The most acceptable forms of racism in 2021: 1/ Racism against white people 2/ Racism branded as 'anti-racism' 3/ Vilification of minorities who don't support left-wing parties 4/ Infantilization of black people 5/ Lowering standards of behavior & performance based on race

[@karankapoor2701]

No we don't , y'all Victim blaming

[@Simeautomatic100]

*Yes you are right but unfortunately, that is not the case. B.A.'s welcome other groups in their circle with open arms & fight hard for them but it's not reciprocal*

[@sydnacious4239]

@@Simeautomatic100 I have never witnessed Asian kids get bullied harder and more aggressively than by black kids in multipe states across America. From California to New Jersey. Sad but true.

[@RDCFemmes]

as a black african person, when I know how they treat black in their countries and even how they treat Africa in Africans, it's extremely hard to treat them allies. My african experience is that white people are less racist than the rest of them and i lived in Africa and in Europe

[@mariesmith7096]

I wish that brown/darker skinned South and South East Asians were involved in this conversation because I think that their experience is very different to the experience of East Asians. There is a lot of colourism and racism against South Asians is very normalised unfortunately :(

[@thomaschu6341]

I'm Asian and my wife is black and when I first got to know her we both have so much in common especially when it comes to family values and both of our culture are almost alike And we really hit it off when we spoke about the things we got woop with when we were little lol

[@crappyaccount]

Cute

[@daddybrent]

it makes you realize just how similar we are to each other and once people get the gist that the way we are treated in society, how our cultures are misused and what’s expected from our older generations of parents, it will definitely be easier to solve this issue. we’re both on a basketball field on different sides, but we both see the same lines painted on the court

[@laterdays7645]

I hope you guys stay together forever

[@samiasegero5484]

aww

[@aceliu]

OMG! this is so true. A$$ whoopings are part of growing up for me too (once a week on-time delivery). Tho we've not whooped my child because my wife wouldn't allow it lol (she is a teacher).. we use time out and talk to them nicely afterward but it does the job too I must say. My kid now starts balling once we time them out, and this saves me the physical labor having to do it.

[@tedcharleceus9753]

I feel like this video doesnt address the history of Asian Americans in america

[@michaeljordansburner474]

Its a jubilee video what you expect

[@joe_mama_]

fr

[@rsarin18]

Like when Regina said that "we helped build this country" I get what she was saying because they have been here longer, but don't act like Asian Americans haven't helped at all

[@usefulpolls3750]

@@rsarin18 400 years vs maybe 100 years, her point does stand.

[@genevieveowusu885]

@@usefulpolls3750 Are you sure? Personally, I don't think it matters for how long-obviously, it does, but- just how much one has contributed. Oh, and Asians have been here since 1587.

[@marywalker8533]

To see a discussion between African Americans and Black People from other regions (Caribbean/Africa) would be a great discussion. Also a video dealing with colourism is needed as well!

[@monkeydluffy7735]

Huh? What shouldn’t it be just black Americans vs African Americans(ppl who’s parents r from Africa)

[@clarkjefferson7732]

@@monkeydluffy7735 you mean 1st or seocnd gen (possibly more) africans born in America. I say that because African American is an ethnicity and is used to describe the black people who are decendents of slavery in the U.S. basically why would you call yourself African American if you know exactly where you came from

[@salingstuff8085]

We not at all african. We indigenous. Another stereotype

[@clarkjefferson7732]

@@salingstuff8085 you're delusional

[@masseillysherif9612]

Salingstuff80 Well who said you were...?

[@ReignbowLight]

I would love to see a debate between Black-Americans and Mexican-Americans because I also do notice a lot of tension between these two groups.

[@maggielu3927]

ngl i’m a little disappointed by this conversation, or at least how jubilee is showing it. there were so many parts of this conversation that turned into the oppression olympics, and i wish there was more information being shared about asian american history. i don’t necessarily disagree with anything in particular that was said, but it’s unfair to leave out the history of systemic racism against asians like the treatment of asian immigrant workers in the 1800s and the chinese exclusion act. without understanding the history and having a conversation on common experiences this conversation is obviously going to be almost one-sided.

[@giannagolino6693]

not to mention the japanese internment camps and to this day various micro aggressions about our eyes or us being the cause of covid. asians have been opressed for a LONG time but for some reason it feels like its just not important to acknowledge it. maybe cause we are culturally trained to stay silent. growing up i was taught in my japanese household to stay quiet and not speak out and many asians are taught this. it is sad.

[@singbin]

@@giannagolino6693 Japanese colonized south east asian, and most of us are moved on, and you act like ur being oppressed, most east asian are racist towards south east asian also, eh no, we are racist towards each other:) even though we are Asians.

[@rips1231]

@@singbin They sure did. Most people and cultures are responsible for things like that. When will people stop playing who has it worst card? And yanno just be decent human beings.

[@viglor]

@@rips1231 because poc and mostly blacks are still oppressed till this day. It’s okay tho this system is burning before our eyes

[@rips1231]

@@viglor Not only was that completely irrelevant to my statement. You seem to crave pity and show very little knowledge of current events. Be gone

[@lizzieeee3945]

a group where all of them are genuinely likeable. edit: if you're going to argue in the replies please do it respectfully just as how the people in this group did. thanks :)

[@jasonedwards3123]

@Caleb DeCoteau 😐

[@jinki3632]

@Caleb DeCoteau No.

[@maiv2528]

@Caleb DeCoteau be quiet

[@kevinpeng6573]

@Caleb DeCoteau bruh no

[@lesserafimchangedmylife]

@Caleb DeCoteau yikes

[@feijaodo]

I'm sincerely disappointed that none of you really knew the history of blacks and asians in this country. We once had a very harmonious relationship. There's a reason a wedge was put between us.

[@feijaodo]

There's a great documentary by Momo Yashima & Ralph Brannen about this exact subject and they're great.

[@Theohybrid]

Same here!

[@ginama3162]

Hello everyone, It's Regina from the video. One thing I want to point out is this video's main discussion is why the black community and Asian community are allies or are not allies, thus framing many of the questions and possibly the cast . Another thing I want to point out is the video is edited!!!!! We had a longer richer conversation, with more questions and more answers. Some answers were for other questions, cut off, not included, etc. okay :) Please keep that in mind while you are watching this "conversation", it doesn't necessarily reflect the actual or full conversation had. Also, we were six people that stepped out of our comfort zone and put ourselves in a room full of cameras, and tried to have an unprepared open conversation. We as a cast are planning to come together to address some top questions but keep in mind, we entered that room with the purpose not to have a battle Royale, and for those that was looking for that tic for tac experience, please search within yourself of am I looking at a bigger problem that has caused a breakdown of social relationship or am I just looking to take my frustrations out, which can lead to further breakdown. I will say one last thing on behalf of this great group I was with, is we are all real people with our own full experiences that a 20 minute edited shared space video couldn't do justice to explain. Before calling anyone a poor representation of anything or projecting what you believe to be the beliefs of anyone in the video, keep that in mind. Hugs and kisses and thanks for watching the video.

[@xmswayzemx]

@@feijaodo what’s it called? I’m looking for it and can’t find it

[@romeilicousk]

Yes because of yt people

[@alienjourney]

Asian racism is real. I've experiance it all my life. I live in predominately African American and Hispanic community and experiance racism. People don't take Asian racism seriously because to them it's a joke. It's sad. Like how is that even normal? Wtf.

[@aidenlewis1555]

I'd like to see a conversation between black Americans and black Caribbeans.

[@elliotross3217]

YES.

[@lona234]

Yhhhh

[@lona234]

@Anthony Davis lol 🤣

[@anti.bctards7376]

So you mean the ones who come to america to work and the ones who were born here that whine?

[@lona234]

@@anti.bctards7376 ummmm rude

[@leannemanikavasager4348]

A lot of people seem to forget about south asians when they mention “Asians”, and when South Asians are being acknowledged, were being referred to as just Indians when there are clearly more south Asian countries.

[@poisonkiss201]

That's very true. I've always wondered about that.

[@itsanu1420]

agreed I wish there was at least one south Asian there on the Asian side because sometimes the south Asian/Indian vs black American relationship can be different from East Asian or south East Asian American vs black relations

[@zuboy4272]

@@itsanu1420 Indians would give out Tide to black people to rise up on ranks

[@Wordsbyk]

Exactly

[@sara215]

I get so annoyed. People are like you are Asian? I’m like wtf dude India is part of Asia Indian people are way less discriminatory to black people and Africans

[@adc2327]

I am Black, in my late 60s. I have a early memory from when I was about 6. Our Chinese neighbors and owners of a corner store asked my mother about Halloween. They had 2 little girls about 4 and 6. My mother took us all in costume to a Halloween party. We had a great time. 25 years ago a Chinese co worker brought me into her inner circle. We have taken time to learn about each other's culture through our relationship.

[@nivlacsenoj6264]

@Smoke King As an African American I’m happy for South Korea lots of Blacks fought so that the south could be free. I personally knew a Korean veteran, he passed not that long ago, may he Rest In Peace.

[@ryanadams85ra]

That's what's up

[@stevest8675]

Nice. I am Asian and I love y’all.

[@JackDenn]

@@stevest8675 same. We love you guys as well!

[@Indiansareallpajeets]

I am asian and I love black people❤