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[@elijahdaves1305]

"If we take the Bible literally, everyone in this room is sinning." Um...yes. That's literally the whole point.

[@caliblur1038]

😂😂 fax

[@cagedguitarist1208]

Preach!

[@crespeakslife]

The whole point!!!

[@telisharansome2920]

exactly what I said lol

[@QuackersMcCrackers]

Yeah, I'm as athiest as they come but even *I* knew that.

[@kaitllynmcnerney8364]

“People in the church hurt you, not God.”

[@sxmone2018]

God made those people that hurt you

[@glodimvovi2345]

@@sxmone2018 he didn’t make them hurt anyone people have free will they chose to hurt

[@jasminemurillo903]

Saucy Buckets32 god made those people have the free will to choose so yes god made those people hurt you.

[@glodimvovi2345]

@@jasminemurillo903 he didn’t make them to hurt, he made people and gave them the option to choose. If they choose to hurt, they chose to hurt, if they choose to do good they chose to do good

[@Neon_Distortion]

@@sxmone2018 more like satan

[@soy.ingrid]

“That’s a lot of self-control” the fruit of the Spirit is self-control 😂

[@taonanosihlez5268]

thats what i thought as well😂, like we are meant to bear the fruits of the Spirit

[@kadianedobor1715]

Nothing wrong with complimenting that in a brethren.

[@Drowning_Girl]

Excellent observation.

[@len-1768]

​@@taonanosihlez5268*fruit. If it's fruits, we'll end up cherry-picking which traits to have and which ones to reject. We need all nine traits together.

[@MargaretCutt-um8iq]

exactly, and part of being Christian is being able to live beyond self. We fail but must strive to do better.

[@ebbypetes]

Conservative Christian= bible based Progressive Christian= feelings based.

[@michaelplauche9901]

I agree with this. Progressive christians to me sound like lukewarm Christians because they want to go by their personal feelings and not the bible with their choices.

[@briahumble1858]

Yes

[@BennetDee]

That’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever heard 😂

[@ethandollarhide7943]

More like: Progressive Christian: Believes in Freedom Conservative Christian: Believes in Theocracy.

[@rem6032]

@@theprospect5888wym incorrect 😂

[@nick-andrewvath5045]

They pull out Bible verses like it's a rap battle

[@daisylovers3655]

As they should.

[@CJXcars]

@@daisylovers3655 yes sir.

[@kevinfernandez1929]

@@daisylovers3655 amen

[@tshetij]

🤣🤣🤣

[@deninpaul7509]

Im wheeezingg 😂😂

[@alicethemadrabbit1842]

"Oh, he's gay... What a twist!" "Oh, she's gay... What a twist!" "Oh, he's gay too?? What a twist!"

[@Melissa-gh6wg]

LMFAO FACTS

[@ChonosTack]

The black conservative gay guy is interesting, but also really sad.

[@deseann1591]

ChonosTack yeah it’s another way of how religion kind of blackmails you as in either you live in a box your whole life or you go to hell. That sounds like blackmail to me

[@unda2147]

Spoiler alert?!?!??

[@sharonolatunbosun7098]

@@deseann1591 true

[@arcyknows]

“You already have an agenda & your trying to fit the Bible into that agenda instead of accepting the Gospel for what it is.” Perfectly said.

[@sallygirl1012]

My agenda came after I started reading the Bible. How can you follow something that contradicts itself consistently. The Bible is full of human sin.

[@cetsy2023]

How?

[@w4rsh1p]

And what it is is a hateful violent disturbing book that we know cannot be true.

[@christopherpearson2116]

Well, it endorses (for life, too) slavery, for one... Also, captive brides... in several cases. And as for how... censuses... are handled: In 2 Samuel 24...? Odd. Macabre.@@cetsy2023

[@MCKingM4RTIN]

@@sallygirl1012there are no contradictions

[@lamis5348]

Watching as a non American, I think half the problem is there has been a mixture with faith and politics.

[@user-nc8yb7uq6q]

Watching this as a Catholic is a very different experience

[@ranYRMOM]

so true

[@jessebartunek3195]

Wow, as an American Protestant that is converting to Catholicism I see this so now that I would have a few years ago.

[@soleillouise8955]

"homosexuals, transgenders, and people who break the speed limit" ah yes, the htpwbtsl community

[@joshmeadows4067]

How is this not the top comment I'M DEAD hahahahaha

[@imawesomepersonDERP]

LMAO

[@booorue4876]

I don't appreciate how hard this made me laugh.

[@veronievicky]

this comment wins on so many levels XD

[@ChicoCabra]

@@joshmeadows4067 Agreed

[@oliviak9978]

I can’t believe Jubilee filmed my family getting together for the holidays

[@beccareid4816]

lmao

[@annabortion7394]

PLEASEEEEE LMAOOO

[@RoseColoredGlasses]

Hahaha yessss

[@breanna1346]

Hahaha

[@thespeedster7700]

😅

[@Miyykael]

Omg that line "I have desires and Inclinations to follow the voice of the Lord!" That sent me what a line

[@wham1984]

I’m so glad Angel and Jason are standing firm and speaking truth! Excited to meet them one day

[@rangariraikunedzimwe2780]

They're NOT! They are terrified of the LGBTQ community 🏃‍♂️💨💨

[@Xxx-ei6ff]

The black Jeffrey Dahmer is annoying

[@Dan-jp8jr]

​@@Xxx-ei6ffwhy

[@kailah7812]

@@Xxx-ei6ff😂😂😂

[@toddyboi7898]

Amen

[@fd6864]

"homosexuals, transgenders, people who break the speed limit..." when i tell you i screamed aloud

[@cookie508]

RIGHT!!! my jaw dropped

[@lacybarrier4439]

Yelling at screen like it’s a football game

[@thefantastictwo1356]

@@lacybarrier4439 TOTALLY HAHA

[@andrewstewart8798]

this guy hasnt seen northern utah highways

[@tobiasgross6899]

literallay

[@sliceofyourlyfe5794]

The Asian woman in this video asked why are divorced people allowed to participate in the church when the bible says they shouldn't but homosexuals are barred? No one answered her question, everyone just blew over it.

[@emberwilliams8902]

And it was one of the strongest points of that conversation too...They couldn't address it without breaking down their own hypocrisy.

[@kaluoji4415]

Because divorce is allowed in christianity, in the case of adultery. Therefore, if a person gets a divorce because they couldn't continue their marriage because their spouse cheated on them (or the other way round), then they can still serve in the church.

[@p0rnany0ne]

@@kaluoji4415 why is divorce allowed when it is clearly condemned in the Bible?

[@isopoika256]

@@p0rnany0ne Matthew 19:9 (ESV) And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery. Note that Jesus does not say this is the only reason for divorce. We find other reasons for divorce in Scripture.

[@Carolina_Berean]

This is what I always bring up and them same thing happens. People just ignore it.

[@user-ps2ic2xp3z]

It’s crazy how true the Bible is when it says ‘Many will come to me and say “Lord, Lord, did we not cast out demons in your name?’ And I will say ‘Depart from me, you evil doers”. It’s sad 😞 but it’s true.

[@jonathananderson699]

Just proving that this book is filled with lies because it wants people to constantly never know where they stand and to live in fear

[@jorgealbertobruno10]

I was thinking about the same verse towards the end of this video.

[@DJ_Orangutan]

Angel and Jason being the only ones able to quote scripture says everything.

[@Ni-wl9uh]

What about the mysoginystic verses in the bible?

[@obedmartinez5825]

💯💯💯

[@Djr127]

@@Ni-wl9uhwhich ones?

[@pythondrink]

​@@Djr127hang on

[@GottesgrosszuegigeGnade]

​​@@pythondrink ​@Ni-wl9uh when are they coming? There are non

[@sirTina]

Ciara was just like “homosexuality is a sin” and then Curt was like “so anyways my husband and I” I’m dead asf 😭😂 Edit: I do not indorse any kind of homophobia or discrimination of the LGBTQ+ community. Keep your hateful comments to yourself.

[@lavieenrose5334]

My guy was so eloquent

[@emmanuelaadebisi5743]

We have to stan

[@lapislazuli3793]

@@emmanuelaadebisi5743 no thanks

[@stefvnbrssl8601]

@@lapislazuli3793 lol why not

[@lapislazuli3793]

@@stefvnbrssl8601 cause its not good to ignore sins lol

[@PINQINQ]

These dudes spitting versus like it’s a rap battle

[@BLJ023]

Ok!!... I'm over here like.." Oh no he didn't ", "you better say that", "finish him" lol.

[@pjschaaf414]

💀

[@pauljones6629]

😂😂😂😂

[@ziggystardust2435]

@Luke Monsensey yes there was...? lol

[@LeeKnowsCatss]

Bible study is like that at my church lol

[@cdpyouth]

"I have a tendency to follow the voice of the Lord" 🔥🔥🔥

[@michaelrogers3857]

Bars

[@darenrrful]

if youre hearing things, seek mental help

[@cdpyouth]

​@darenrrful ok....keep that same energy when they come identifying as xyz...

[@Pollyanna4123]

This was the most calm and respectful middle ground I’ve watched😂

[@richardlew3667]

To my fellow Americans. God is not a Republican nor is He a Democrat because He is not an American!

[@fionafiona1146]

It's depressing to see you struggle with the two party system over 70 years after approving Fashisem retardend pluralistic more representative systems and having security reports on them.

[@declangorman4290]

idk about god but Jesus was definitely a socialist, if not a communist

[@independent_bully_maguire9320]

yep.

[@independent_bully_maguire9320]

@@declangorman4290 nope he would probably be Libertarian.

[@fionafiona1146]

@@independent_bully_maguire9320 the whole "follow the law (of the land, temple and being subservient)" parts do not fit that. Not to mention the "give and your will receive".

[@katiesbothers]

"People in the church hurt you, not God." - Oof that struck a chord.

[@HoodedSpidey]

For arguments sake, humans hurt you outside the church too. As an omnipotent being, is God hurting you by not preventing your harm?

[@masochistic_lele4414]

I just feel the building doesn’t matter. It’s the relationship with god.

[@Hello-qf3fd]

@@HoodedSpidey The simple answer is that God gave us free will. That means we as humans can use that free will to do harm or to do good. We just can't _blame_ God for our actions because we have autonomy.

[@elysian8823]

righty

[@Dina-vy7we]

@@Hello-qf3fd exactly

[@bvumazonke]

Jason and Angel ATE

[@khunli7]

PERIOD, THEY SECURED THE BAGGG

[@emiliodelvalle4093]

The point that Ángel defends is that basing life around desire and impulses leads us to an empty life, because the heart is insatiable, the more you satisfy its desires, the more it wants

[@Acts-238]

Yes the Bible says lust is never fulfilled.

[@kolawoleabimbola2264]

The Bible is the standard 💯

[@ThiccBoi23]

Delusional

[@Visionsofyvonne]

😮‍💨 i think you said it best

[@Nisikaa_]

Aren't you then still trying to fulfill an overall desire for a full life?

[@stefano215]

They were trading bible verses like it’s a rap battle 😩

[@prodby.kansha]

🤣

[@inactivetiffany3772]

Bars 😂

[@eaglementality1204]

So I watched the one with conservative/liberal Muslims…. Comment section: I love how he knows the Quran and is able to recite it . Wish I knew (and could quote) the Bible the same Christians do the same: Oh, you’re weaponizing the scriptures against people and using them like rap battles

[@caligurl8770]

Yeah 😅

[@bluebellbeatnik4945]

they need to do a hamilton musical of this

[@RoninDurey]

when the conservative told everyone he was lowkey gay OOP... THIS EPISODE IS CRAZYYYYYYY

[@alexcarlton4172]

He's totally closeted, the deniers are usually gay ooh LMAOO

[@woah7066]

I deadass lost it

[@roberthernandez5334]

Lmaoooo, I knew it too, I was like, homie is gay, I’m so sad for him

[@ebonyy5248]

@@roberthernandez5334 why are u sad for him?

[@MsAqaqSwsw]

I’m a same-sex attracted to Christian and I found deliverance and freedom and joy and peace that everyone searches for through Jesus. It’s very so possible that he will be just fine if he keeps his faith in God. 🤗

[@justarandomweeb4234]

20:02 I believe that when you’re able to straight up say that you don’t believe certain parts of the Bible then you have a big issue

[@Megalaglag]

Yup, she is a heretic

[@Estherokuwa]

That’s craaaaaazy

[@originalslicey]

I don't know who all needs to hear this, but THE BIBLE IS NOT LITERAL.

[@UrMom-jq8my]

@@originalslicey Of course most parts aren't, but that doesn't take away its absolute credibility.

[@Kevintendo]

Many Christians believe lots of the Bible is metaphorical, allegorical, etc.. 7 days of creation, anyone?

[@TheJayKellz]

To be honest this conversation could have been alot longer with more biblical context underlining each major discourse

[@taliyah2639]

The bald man is so calm and he makes me feel so safe 😂

[@Slawsers]

Making me turn gay

[@cauliflower2003]

Sameee his voice felt like a warm hug 🤗

[@kanine_2550]

That's a tad sus m8

[@kittennight3305]

@@Slawsers I get that lol

[@taliyah2639]

@@cauliflower2003 yessss it felt exactly like that

[@creamymarshmxllow2830]

I don’t want to be nice to others to avoid going to hell. I want to be nice to others because I genuinely want to be a decent human being.

[@honey-fo6ro]

Jesus wasn’t nice because He didn’t want to go to hell. He was nice because He was, indeed, genuinely a nice person who never did anything wrong to anybody. In fact, His kindness was just the tip of the iceberg. He was and is SO much more than that, so having faith is about so much more than just being nice.

[@yeehaw24]

You missed the point.... we can’t go to heaven just because we force ourselves to be nice. You have to genuinely want to do it. I didn’t help kids in 6th grade with suicide and cutting themselves to make me look good and take me to Heaven. I did it because I wanted them to go to Heaven. You missed something.

[@roguedaskill]

Sounds like you're a Christian then.

[@shomshomni2314]

But here's the thing it is not our works that lead us to heaven, it is our faith in Jesus Christ. Christians just do the works because God is working through us but Jesus has already done the work and paid for us to be a part of His family with His blood. We are saved by grace not by works, lest anyone should boast. - Ephesians 2:8

[@Miriam-xd6wp]

@@yeehaw24 people suffering from self harm will still go to heaven

[@Mattmaxi]

Wow, I think talks like this should be held often... It's beautiful to behold... It's so not aggressive, the answers came in softly, and gentle. And every bit of it came out nice. Thank you

[@chryztyn24q]

I love how free, unbiased and unafraid discussions of very sensitive topics are in Jubilee in it’s entirety not just on this video 🙏🙌🎉

[@hellriser__]

LMAO ciara saying "i can't say you're going to hell because i don't know your relationship with god" compared to the other conservative dude who straight said "no offense you're going to hell"

[@drhemaword]

And he is if he's living in sin....... Duhhhhhhh

[@gladiator8325]

It’s easy to determine if someone’s heading to hell by their doctrine

[@TheWeekndsFan]

@@drhemaword Wdym Yes living in sin?

[@panacea26947]

You can't be progressive and christian at the same time lmao

[@user-gh5hu8mh2q]

@@panacea26947 YES!

[@myaruth6010]

“People in the church hurt you, not God” is the best line because people don’t realize this and it hurts them more than anything. Edit: I said this because I know people who questioned their faith because of how the people of the church acted towards them and others.

[@yaelfox2906]

I got chills

[@blackarchon8778]

Thats why you should leave the church.

[@TornadoeJoe]

@@blackarchon8778 That's the furthest thing from the truth.

[@Lebronwski]

@@frogpoop397 you shouldn’t leave because of the ppl. You should leave if the doctrines false or hateful

[@evas1463]

Very true!! Religion is mostly about finding hope in someone greater than us and having a community but people seem to forget that, which is why we have those religious wars and people baptizing others and tearing them down, just because they want their religion to justify their own racism/homophobia or hate in general, when it really doesn't!!

[@joselinlopez4457]

I think it the only video I have seen in people have different beliefs and talking about it so peaceful

[@kaitlincampbell2405]

That’s got to be the most civil and mature Middle Ground I’ve ever seen❤

[@rodelremolana1155]

I can imagine them taking a shower, regretting about the arguments they could have said

[@nataly4426]

THISSS!

[@erenjaeger1738]

@@nataly4426 ur pfp say it all. "PERIOD"

[@manualLaborer]

or maybe they brought a mic to drop, but didn't say anything cool enough

[@HiHello-cw9vc]

IKRR

[@nataly4426]

@@erenjaeger1738 PURRR LMFAOAO

[@Marilynefc]

“The people in the church hurt me. God did not hurt me” 🥺❤️

[@Pseudynom]

The only way to stop a bad guy with a god is a good guy with a god.

[@DanLuxe]

Atheist here. Same. That got me.

[@elijahtrent21]

Praise God

[@wiswc]

Can we ban emojis already?!

[@cocoajames5]

right. i feel like people group the members of the church with God themselves and it ruins the message. that's why a lot of people that have met bad christians end up hating God and the religion itself and not the people. 😔

[@deadaccount6004]

I was a progressive/liberal christian before, but then I became conservative, not only because I started to read more bible, but because I knew I was in the wrong side.

[@sallygirl1012]

The more I read the Bible the less I want to follow it. Contradiction after contradiction. Yet you choose to ignore it for the sake of your agenda.

[@lenoirsolo1978]

You say that but then you quite literally do not understand it. Yet, I bet you’ve contradicted yourself but in similar fashion to what you claim “you ignore it”.

[@corwynprice1065]

@@sallygirl1012 what contradictions might that be?

[@hiyves9880]

@@sallygirl1012 why not give us some examples if theres so many

[@phi4721]

​@@sallygirl1012 human beings are contradictory, should I stop being human?

[@E.j-]

Yall need to put Cliff Knetchle in one of these😂

[@Estherokuwa]

Frrr

[@UnKnown-hx2bg]

And Sam Shamoun

[@Honeycoupe]

"Born again Christians vs Ex-Christians" would be a great episode.

[@gracenartey4830]

💯 … just waiting for that

[@realtalkwithphil]

Yup

[@marsjokes]

Still waiting

[@marsjokes]

It would be interesting to have @Gothix on the Born Again side too

[@Honeycoupe]

@@marsjokes and @Jaclyn on the Ex Christians side.

[@mothernature6790]

Me an atheist: This is interesting *clicks*

[@aeron9730]

me an agnostic HAHAHAH this is entertaining 😂🤣😭

[@wonderlandbunny8160]

Me a nothing specific, I'm here to get angry at religious people again.

[@anarchistonsunsetdrive7813]

I can't believe religion is even significant. Like really, let it go.

[@younggoat9846]

@@anarchistonsunsetdrive7813 ....what? Are you ok? Like legit question I’m atheist but that sentence had to be a joke right?

[@anarchistonsunsetdrive7813]

@@younggoat9846 what made you think that?

[@shanereignz8662]

Jason was on point. I thought i was progressive until i heard this conversation. I disagreed with most if not all the statements. This was insightful and thought provoking❤

[@PreachTh3Truth]

Hello! I am a conservative Christian too! Two questions: how are you doing today? What points did you find yourself disagreeing with for either side?

[@Jessica-gs1hv]

Angel is very brave. I'm so glad I found this video!

[@someonee5084]

Her saying being gay is a sin and him immediately afterwards saying he's gay is weirly hilarious and sad.

[@weirdlanguageguy]

having gay tendancies, or tendancies towards anything believed to be wrong, isnt a sin. Engaging in those things are

[@kamusta3446]

@@weirdlanguageguy So your saying Heterosexuals can marry, adopt kids, make love. while Homosexuals just stand there like a statue? What the actual hell is wrong with your brain?

[@jadenphilander8799]

@@kamusta3446 So when I have an impulse to drink, it is a natural impulse but to act on it and get drunk is a sin. So the life of a christian, muslim, jew is also about trying to control your impulses.

[@kamusta3446]

@@jadenphilander8799 So your saying not to treat LGBT people as equal? what is also wrong with your brain?

[@dalsegno7001]

@@kamusta3446 oof, that struck your nerve didn’t it? 💀💀

[@gracienorris7775]

“it was the people who hurt you in the church not God” wow that really hit me

[@xadielplasencia3674]

The people are the only ones there, so... Who did you expect?

[@carsonbrooks1326]

@@xadielplasencia3674 ok man, if people want to believe that way, let them

[@saigie3908]

I loved that quote. Ppl need to stop holding God to a human standard

[@xadielplasencia3674]

@@carsonbrooks1326 I agree, till that starts affecting me.

[@carsonbrooks1326]

@@xadielplasencia3674 the second it affected you was when you clicked on this video and the moment you started typing in the comments.

[@iem123]

Great to see Angel and Jason being both respectful to the progressive “Christians” but also being very firm in their stance on the bible being completely true. You can’t call yourself a Christian and turn around and disregard large parts of what he’s said and they were respectful but firm about that fact

[@yennifercortez6961]

Amen

[@historysyourbestfriend5500]

Neither can the “conservative” Christians. They don’t follow Christianity to the T either so what they’re not Christian? Don’t begin w that.

[@sheekyking]

Jason always made me cry 🥹

[@ashleycouch9084]

“God did not hurt me, it was the people in the church who hurt me”. Love this so much

[@brendonbuffaloe8830]

I’m sorry that you love that statement. It’s very sad that that happened to you. The church is meant to be encouraging and comforting to its members, so I question whether or not the church you went to is built on Christ.

[@c.l.4883]

@@brendonbuffaloe8830 many are actually not and that’s a tough pill to swallow for many.

[@brendonbuffaloe8830]

@@c.l.4883 I agree. But know that they do not represent what Christianity is supposed to be

[@c.l.4883]

@@brendonbuffaloe8830 indeed

[@lynnryan3727]

@@brendonbuffaloe8830 the church hurts a lot of people sadly, and while I resonated with that statement, personally I came to that realization too late. They hurt me in such a deep and personal way that i don't think I'll ever feel comfortable associating myself with anything that has an Abrahamic label. And there are more and more people every day who come to that conclusion. It sucks, but i feel more at peace with myself today without Christianity than i ever did with it, and i will never give that up for what's equivalent to an abusive family again.

[@kashcow]

When he said “I had homosexual inclinations” when I tell u, I have never screamed “IK IT” so loud.

[@daddylonglegs3420]

hun, with those glasses we been knew 💀

[@norapeace6526]

@@daddylonglegs3420 HOW???? Teach me your ways 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂

[@lilyfeist3841]

Low key just want to give him a hug and tell him it’s okay to be gay...

[@DizGaAlcam]

@@norapeace6526 its called gaydar

[@norapeace6526]

@@DizGaAlcam I know what it’s called.. I’m trying to improve mine 😅

[@gerard7417]

Angel and Jason are my favorite they spoke facts and fighting against evil hidden in plain sight , respectfully ofc , no doubt. Lol .

[@klompe7801]

A lot of respect for Angel-- what a guy!

[@imalwayspanicking]

“People in the church hurt you, not God.” THAT. I love that.

[@kovanashae1762]

They use god to hurt you so I see where they’re coming from as a Christian.

[@Eddie-oy6hv]

AMennnn!!!!💛💛💛💛

[@tinybubs6145]

Curt is my new favorite person

[@charl7346]

@@kovanashae1762 You know who else was hurt by religious people? Jesus. He was killed by them. He didn't blame God for the things men did to him.

[@KenWBO]

Now that I think about it. That’s a key point many people don’t seem to realize...

[@Jupiters_burns]

ANGEL LITERALLY CAME OUT THE CLOSET, DID A SPIN AND WALKED RIGHT BACK IN.

[@limewireomochao]

Right!?

[@court9311]

😂

[@HelloKittysFriend418]

Yeeeeeshhhhhh

[@memyself8942]

Literally👨🏾‍🦼👨🏾‍🦼👨🏾‍🦼

[@elifkfgl]

he closed the closet door right in front of his face

[@va.j]

I’m glad that Jason was present !

[@BlankF1lms]

JASON THE MENACE!!! This was a great video!!

[@rashidalhassoun8368]

this is probably the only channel on youtube where sensitive topics like this can be discussed without world war three happening

[@ihavenousername6340]

The comments may have to disagree with that World war three part

[@lovernotafighter6942]

true but then the comment section can get messy.

[@fos1451]

You forgot to read the comment buddy?

[@kelz4965]

Except the vegan and flat earthers Then yes

[@myaschultheis3004]

agreed 😂

[@bingusluvr2280]

“people in the church hurt me, not god” amen

[@galaxygalatics3255]

People will still hate you or me where ever we go online or in real life even when you or me beleave in god or not there is aways going to be hate in the world

[@dawoodalmas2476]

Hisoka God loves you but you need to take your eyes off from Gon and Kilua

[@bingusluvr2280]

@@dawoodalmas2476 ooooooOoOH gOoOooon

[@Unique_Monk]

He’s a pastor - he married a man - he is committing one almighty sin Stop making God fit your narratives people - how can you believe in God then change his words to suit - unbelievable hypocrisy

[@gitBritt]

The church even hurt Christ, as in they killed him. At the time the church was the nation of Israel.

[@donitanelson6813]

Amen Angel !! May the Lord bless you with more than you’ve ever imagined for your obedience & faithfulness !! Amen 🙏🏾✝️

[@SavyMarie20]

This was a very enlightening video for me.

[@buttercruffie]

im not religious but im kinda lowkey impressed at how they can memorize and just reference random verses

[@Godzilladad]

You would too, if you read the Bible every day

[@hannah.liu.04]

@Kaleela Edwards john 3:16 be like

[@yes2542]

It’s a lot easier than it seems. Especially when the same verses are preached week after week

[@berkozkan3922]

Just looks like someone wasting precious time bruh

[@assholebyginger]

@@Godzilladad I've read my own holy book several times from a young age, I cannot recite verses 😭 Btw I've never stopped reading it, I read like three or so pages every day of the working week (so not weekends) I've been doing this since I was 12

[@gilliandoplemore9357]

This is not Liberal Christians vs. Republican Christians, it is Progressive Christians vs. Conservative Christians. There is a difference that does not relate directly to politics.

[@christophermorillo369]

i mean it does relate directly to politics which is why they talk about various policy (abortion, marriage) and why 2/3 conservative Christians and 0/3 progressive Christians said republicans were more Christ-like.

[@walker7155]

how does this not relate to politics when all they talk about is politics?

[@gilliandoplemore9357]

@@christophermorillo369 Maybe in the context of this video, but in general it’s bigger than politics. There’s a different that goes beyond parties.

[@gilliandoplemore9357]

@@walker7155 maybe in the context of this video, but overall, there is more to it.

[@walker7155]

@@gilliandoplemore9357 maybe they don’t talk about issues you feel they should talk about, but the video is based on their individual association with either republican, or libertarian.

[@ihavetwoos]

Love the answer of the brother in the brown jacket

[@ihavetwoos]

At 13:43 he's spitting there

[@fearisaliar3]

Love watching everyone

[@nidamerchant1935]

progressive vs conservative muslims would be such a good topic

[@shzarmai]

Sunnis vs Shia muslims would be very interesting to see tbh

[@danabarakat1816]

nope. Conservative Muslims stand by what they believe in regardless. You cannot sway their opinions nor can you have a simple conversation about differing views. That's MY experience being born Muslim and no longer identifying with Islam in my community. The majority of conservative Muslims believe they are one hundred percent correct in every idea that they have been taught and even discussing different ideas/views is regarded as sinful. Not much of a discussion would ever happen (in my opinion).

[@danabarakat1816]

@@shzarmai I highly doubt it would be civil though.

[@shzarmai]

@@danabarakat1816 Ok I would still like to see it though regardless lol

[@danabarakat1816]

@@shzarmai I mean, it would most likely be a lot of bickering, yelling, and arguing and people constantly interrupting one another... just what I picture, lol. I mean in my Muslim community people get in actual fights about religion and it's just so unhealthy, but if that's what you want to watch... lol.

[@fishels3895]

Do conservative atheists vs liberal Christians lol

[@theglutton1815]

I’ve meet those lol

[@hazel6323]

I would pay so much to see that.

[@chriscraig6353]

Wait no cus that would be so crazy but yes let's do it

[@dariusd2003]

Wow that's an interesting dynamic. I'd be curious what each camp believes and how they defend their viewpoints.

[@brandontrammel4581]

I'm liberal Christian or progressive

[@evanfairchild9015]

Angel and Jason are great

[@msrivera360]

I love the way Jason expresses himself. Hit all the nails!

[@carloshinojosa9824]

idk how these people remember verses lol. All I learned in Catholic School: God is good all the time; all the time, God is good.

[@hzlkelly]

Because you don't read the Bible for yourself.

[@skappy8307]

samee cuz i don’t have time to memorize the Bible i would rather do something productive

[@lotus8650]

a lot of people “know” verses only to argue their point.

[@arrow2589]

It starts when you're a kid and years and years of brainwashing later it's pretty well indoctrinated

[@carloshinojosa9824]

@@skappy8307 lol, like breathing

[@moogan2000]

“I choose not to act on my homosexual tendencies” “And are you miserable?” “ꪀꪮ ꪀꪮ𝓽 ꪖ𝓽 ꪖꪶꪶ“

[@yellowtheyellow]

Lmao for real tho

[@gabriellecody3961]

Fr why'd he say it like that 😭

[@filipkarwowski6510]

But the fact is, it’s liberating. Not being controlled by your emotions and libido. Being a human being who is capable of controlling your passions. It’s truly a gift

[@arsaleos]

My heart broke watching him after he said this... you can see the pain in his eyes....

[@ahuman7882]

@@filipkarwowski6510 If you have to tell yourself that in order to be happy, then you're not truly happy

[@user-zw9ud5eg2z]

So much love for Angel

[@Waffles4903]

Even my mind is torn apart by the bias of religion versus non-religion almost all the time. These types of kindness helps my own biases stabilize.

[@Max-lx2vx]

i feel really bad for Curt in the lgbtq talking part there just saying how gay people won’t go to heaven and stuff and he’s here like:🧍‍♂️

[@ilovejesus77888]

well he has to hear it. It hurts but it’s a warning so he doesn’t go there. Someone had to say it

[@Max-lx2vx]

@@ilovejesus77888 he’s not gonna go to hell for being gay

[@gabbyalarcon305]

@Bruno Menezes why?

[@Max-lx2vx]

@Bruno Menezes no he won’t

[@ilovejesus77888]

@@Max-lx2vx I can guarantee that you really have no knowledge of what it is to follow Christ . He’s a compromised Christian. That’s the progressive clan. They want to follow Christ but there’s parts that they don’t want to let go, so they compromise and call it progressive Christianity. In other words..foolishness. So I don’t blame you for thinking that way. Take care.

[@acidmizer]

as a non-religious person, this was rather interesting.

[@nicholasgee9127]

It is misleading.

[@vincenzorutigliano5435]

It's just American protestants fighting over what does it mean to be protestant

[@natesalinas3736]

@@vincenzorutigliano5435 Progressive Christianity is like a Doctor telling you that you can drink a 2 liter of Soda a day, and you will still be Healthy. Because it makes you feel good. Oh but make sure you get your carrots in too.

[@jackryan7357]

same ol

[@vincenzorutigliano5435]

@@natesalinas3736 Protestantism is the first step down to atheism.

[@nataliamont05]

super awesome convo! brenda and jason were great

[@lizconstantly4178]

It’s crazy how respectful everyone here is! I was completely expecting a screaming match of opinions. I’m not a Christian by any means and am certainly liberal in my beliefs but here there were a few points where I could really respect the conservative Christians.

[@doctor1alex]

Christians should never be defined by by politics but should definitely care about politics.

[@crt1978]

Good point

[@eliesh3833]

Agreed. There's nothing wrong with having political beliefs whilst being a person of faith, as long as those two things remain separate.

[@DudeImWayBetter]

@@eliesh3833 Completely disagree if you are to have political opinions they should come from a kingdom / Bible perspective. Not a worldly one.

[@eliesh3833]

@@DudeImWayBetter What does that even mean? Politics themselves are a worldly thing. That's why faith should be separate from political belief. If you base your faith entirely on politics, then it seems like you're believing in God for the wrong reasons. There's actually a verse that may support this. *Mark 12:17* "Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they marveled at him." You may advocate whatever political beliefs that you want to, as long as your faith in God does not become intertwined with these things. Your spiritual faith should not be placed in people or material things, only in God. And if anything, I feel that being politically unbiased whilst supporting aspects of both sides is more Christ-like then just being one or the other. Both sides hold biblical values just as they both hold values that are unbiblical. Frankly, I don't think either political side is the "biblical" one. They're both just political ideologies that conflict one other in a myriad of ways.

[@DudeImWayBetter]

@@eliesh3833 nothing should be seperate from the kingdom / faith. If you have a belief that isn't first filtered through the Bible than what's the point of the Bible / your faith in the first place.

[@anastasiareid3333]

As a black student who attends private school, I would love to see black private school kids vs. black public school students, I think that would be interesting and a great experience

[@ericanation2458]

Love this idea!!

[@anastasiareid3333]

@@ericanation2458 thank youuuu+

[@kemidada6371]

YESS!! Or African Americans versus people who grew up in Africa

[@Dude-dx5ns]

@Tiarra How??

[@goggle2233]

@@Dude-dx5ns both side look down each other a lot so it may be hard but I do want to see it

[@lailah8691]

”because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.“

[@JohnWickPotter]

One question I think that should’ve been asked is what led them to where they are and what about the other side do they agree with. Something positive and it’ll open people up more.

[@juliacosta5472]

honestly some christians just choose the parts of the bible they want to believe. In both sides

[@jesusislord3050]

They shouldn’t

[@Ejiro__Kirishima]

I personally prefer the Christians that don’t explain hatespeech with the Bible.

[@beiimnida3266]

True. You really need to look for the right one and thank God I did

[@Keesha_Hardy]

@@Ejiro__Kirishima How are there hateful parts to the Bible?

[@christianlittle4303]

@@Ejiro__Kirishima um no if your a Christian you listen to all parts of the Bible not just what you want to here, being a Christian and not listening to the Bible would b Heresy

[@carter9608]

angel seems like the kinda dude who would tell me that 'i can still be saved' while patting my shoulder and smiling

[@spookyho5994]

hahaha yes

[@kafkaesqueangel]

i cant tell if this is for or not for angel 0-0

[@_cherrychi_]

@@kafkaesqueangel LOL

[@Lebronwski]

Everyone deserves hell and we all need saving

[@pippi2285]

@@Lebronwski good thing hell doesn’t exist

[@marcanuelplata889]

Jason and angel keep it up brothers. 💌

[@fysical7643]

bro these people memorized the bible, I can't even remember what I had for dinner

[@Eanna0228]

Right 😭😭

[@benborja3200]

lol

[@alainaholycross6586]

and that's being a pastor and being deticated to the Lord :D

[@emiliezylstra6589]

Bruh same

[@alainaholycross6586]

@Filcher Gravesly Not a waste of time if you knew where you were goin when you die... and it ain't heaven (for now) and it ain't staying put in the ground. It breaks my heart to know there are so many (like you) people that don't and haven't come to realize what they're missing out on when they should go to the kingdom of God! :( :( bless your soul..

[@EpicBURN321]

Would be interesting to see Liberal Muslims vs Conservative Muslims

[@Kyrgyz420]

It would be the biggest fight ever

[@hishamharis9371]

Truee..

[@hishamharis9371]

Yeah! Many of them. It depends upon their respective countries I may say.

[@hishamharis9371]

Like muslims in developed countries are chill.. uae for example. And muslims from multicultural countries like India are most likely liberals

[@hishamharis9371]

That's true... Moreover social media tends to polarise everyone's views.. so a conservative continues to be conservative and a liberal will have his feed filled with posts in favour of his own ideology. It's important for one to have a friend circle of various cultures and religions.

[@voiceofthefathertv]

“I have a tendency and desire to eat certain foods doesn’t mean I should just accept who I am”

[@terryboldenjr.3555]

Love what she said at the end

[@katiebells8024]

The girl made a really good point about divorce vs homosexuality that no one countered.

[@greenergrass4060]

Yeah, youre right. I think because Divorce is a "one-time" sin. Whilst homosexual relations last Long-term , and therefore become "lifestyles".

[@amartinez589]

@katiebells the Bible explicitly states that God hates divorce, Malachi 2:16. If someone was divorced prior to becoming a Christian they are not going to be excluded from service. If someone was practicing homosexuality prior to becoming Christian they should not be excluded either. But no one can claim to be a Christian and also practice homosexuality. They also cannot claim to be Christian and desire divorce.

[@greenergrass4060]

@@amartinez589 what are your thoughts on Annulment? Or legal, state-appointed marriage?

[@poocrayon4588]

Most no fault divorces would be a sin in Gods eyes. But I guess it was Eve that ate the apple and women do initiate 85% of divorce and feminists were the ones that fought for no fault divorce so its no surprise

[@jermerygrug3090]

@@greenergrass4060 I was just about to say this good onya mate

[@tomiy09]

“People in the church hurt you, not god” - powerful.

[@macbeth7701]

God* Truueeee 🙏🏾🙌🏾

[@jamesx8188]

very

[@f1i273]

God doesn’t exist

[@macbeth7701]

@@f1i273 He surely does sir or ma’am

[@ogechianusi6809]

@@f1i273 well many believe he does and many don't so I think you should just respect each opinion

[@gracious90]

"I have desires and inclinations to follow the voice of the Lord" Angel 🙏🏿

[@noahmchugh3769]

Mans said “I have desires and inclinations to follow the voice of the Lord” Amen brother.

[@Jojo_Ojo_14]

Angel said “as Americans, you all have rights” after Olivia said she wasn’t American.

[@eriley7809]

I noticed that too. I really hope it was editing or he just didn’t think of how that sounded.

[@lerulara]

I think he forgot, after she said it I forgot as well until you mentioned it, I mean she just seems like such a sweet girl and with the way she speaks she doesn't sound like from another country.

[@floritahhh]

OMG TRUE like why would he even say "as Americans" are other nationalities....not included...?

[@Wintermute01001]

There's a really weird conflation with Christianity and American nationalism among conservative Americans.

[@beigemeoli7016]

I don’t think he meant it against her I think he is leaning towards people who live in America weather you were born in a different country or not yk? Cuz I see anyone who lives in America as American

[@nono-mu9rw]

how do they quote the bible like that when I can't even remember song lyrics

[@brookepettenati3323]

right 😭😭

[@hydrolito]

Jesus loves me this I know because the bible tells me so, little ones to he belong they are weak but he is strong. yes Jesus loves me, yes Jesus loves me the bible tells me so. I remember that from when I was a child. Although no longer claim to believe in any god.

[@marcilk7534]

They work at memorizing it. I have difficulty memorizing too.

[@mollie-maiellmer6607]

Bible*

[@clarissafairchild16]

I can quote one verse and that's it. And that's bc it was drilled into my head during bible study in third grade...I'm now in 9th grade and agnostic

[@danieladegoke4910]

The last lady summed it all perfectly, all in all it is God's help that we need

[@excancerpoik]

i love how Jason speaks

[@amelasiller]

homosexuals, transgender & people who break the speed Limit..... WHATDIDHESAYYYYYY?!? 👁️👄👁️

[@JeyC_]

I think what he meant by that is people who break laws. Not literally people who break the speed limit

[@brandonmma]

Trans doesn’t exist. You can’t change your gender

[@thepopcornthatjenniethrew8381]

@@brandonmma actually animals can, and so can people, actually they don’t even change genders they’re the gender they identify as

[@arrghus]

@@brandonmma sex ≠ gender

[@thepopcornthatjenniethrew8381]

@@infinitedino9807 actually some fish species do it too, as well as some lizards, butterflies, birds, lobsters, snakes, turtles, and a lioness who acted and had many traits and behaviors of a male lion was found so checkmate. Oh and it’s been scientifically proven that Trans people’s brains are wired like the gender they identify as

[@Munenejr]

I’m Christian, been most of my life. The real question is how do people memorize verses so well. Do they just walk around reciting them ?

[@reichan8363]

Could be. You can also do it if you choose to memorize them.

[@adreannasears994]

I just read them over and over and pray about memorization.

[@adreannasears994]

@@n.g.l. reciting yes, but it does take personal disciple to actually memorize them. I have a difficult time reciting if I haven’t made any effort to memorize

[@GR-dw9nm]

@@reichan8363 When you want to force an agenda you tend to vomit the same nonsense over and over.

[@gosh_jm]

Ikr!!! I think it would be really cool to know verses like that. Knowing what verse to say at what moment would be really cool.

[@shannonhaworth2098]

It is HARD watching people justify sin so blatantly 😢

[@kap849]

And so passionately too while claiming to be Christians 😭. It's heartbreaking.

[@evontheone]

tell me about it 🥲

[@ryanlindback9393]

It’s so sad.. pray for them..

[@VasatiBrown]

So true!!! They even twisted what the Bible says. Lol

[@user-sk7zc1fc5u]

"sin" is a word only in Christianity.

[@DerekJohnson-vz9qg]

Let’s freaking go Angel and Jason

[@camilledeadwiler7266]

I find it weird that the question asked “Would Jesus protest” and people explained why they didn’t protest... the question didn’t ask what y’all would or did do

[@SailorAnthy]

Thank You! I came to the comments looking for this

[@_chade]

You bring up a very good point, which essentially is the basis of religion: ONE’S own beliefs and interpretations that are then put on Jesus.

[@nikolatheme5572]

Ikr, personaly I don't believe in god but if I did I would want to believe that he would. Because I would only want to believe in kind God that wants to help people.

[@enigmatic9118]

Mind you, I'm not a christian, but I was born and raised one. Their responses to that question seem based on the fact they view Jesus as within them, and that Jesus is many things. If they did not participate, then Jesus would not participate, but they also explained why. Once again, I do not hold these beliefs, but I do want to help explain where they are coming from.

[@my_cousin_mose9782]

I thought it was odd too. I bet that was all edited out. I could be wrong but it seems more likely than them skirting around the question like that.