Did Slavery Affect Your Family? Africans vs African Americans | Middle Ground

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0:00 intro
0:33 slavery affected my family
4:27 racism is the main cause of poverty among black people in the USA
10:52 hip hop reinforces stereotypes
13:24 the American dream is only for white people
18:19 I trust law enforcement
21:31 we are obsessed with race in America
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[@dylagence443]

We need a African parents vs American parents episode, the chaos that would happen would be insane

[@GreenBanana675]

The absolute chaos.

[@Retr0ver4]

You are a officially a chaos bringer if this ever happens

[@zeofighter9]

I agree

[@The_Real_Kokichi_Oma]

YESSS

[@amalmoallin1410]

😊😊😊

[@PrettyBrownEyes718]

Always wanted to hear this conversation, but without a black American woman there you're missing a significant perspective. The impact of American slavery and everything else (systemic racism, welfare system, etc) on the black American woman is profound.

[@nana8135]

thank YOU

[@OTB2002]

Why are Africans doing better in America compared to black Americans?

[@lexvt3551]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@gillianmurphy2111]

I can't believe they couldn't find a black American woman to speak on this topic. Swing and a miss Jubilee.

[@mizmimi54321]

NO FOR REAL big fumble on Jubilee when there are countless texts easily available that talk about how Black women are ignored and overlooked in conversations about the Black experience

[@briannawillis1124]

I'm DEFINITELYYYY gonna need to come back & rewatch this because everyone's mind is evolving my own perception of society. I JUST LOVE SEEING STRONG, EDUCATED BLACK FOLK SPEAKING TRUTH !!!!!

[@dmoney_pimpslap]

You act like "educated black folk" are the anomaly.

[@briannawillis1124]

@@dmoney_pimpslap I just love seeing the media coverage of it!! I go to an HBCU & I manage a trade school that teaches at risk youth life skills, so I’m constantly surrounded by very intellectual, promising individuals. Some people don’t have that opportunity, so it’s nice to see a video that shows the perception of educated POC.

[@TheBarbequeKid]

​@@dmoney_pimpslap in all honesty they are, that's just the truth

[@KayKashi]

My girlfriend spent 5 years of her life in prison for a crime she didn’t commit. She’s the sweetest most tender hearted person I know and even tho she has been home for years it still affects her every day. The criminal just systematically targets us and throws us away

[@saveyourtearsforanotherd4y]

im so sorry i hope shes doing better

[@benbowland]

I'm so sorry. I can't even imagine what that does to your spirit

[@FactsOVERFeelings100]

LMFAO STOP THE CAP AND PLAYING THE VICTIM CARD LMFAO They had enough evidence to convince 12 jurors she did commit the crime or she supposedly had no choice but take a plea deal. SELF ACCOUNTABILITY

[@QyonatheCreator]

@@FactsOVERFeelings100Central Park 5 is enough proof for you to eat your words & choke on them. Research before you allow racism to lead you back to ignorance.

[@petep5207]

@@FactsOVERFeelings100 YUP. Definitely a lot of details missing from that story--conveniently.

[@InternetGirl1093]

I appreciate that Elizabeth acknowledged that many Africans see African Americans as just complaining, but realized the nuances that exist on both sides. That was great to hear.

[@Ten_dai]

Mostly because a ton of Africans don't seriously study history in school until uni, if even then,much less the history of the United States and African Americans so the ones who make those type of statements are usually doing it from a place of ignorance. Often it takes them decades of lining in the US to realize certain things. Others know what to expect but choose to deal with racism like a sort of 'immigrant tax', the price for the American dream.

[@twistedbliss58]

Because they are, very few people today have had their lives affected by slavery

[@adrianna5378]

@@twistedbliss58 Definitely segregation though. It wasn’t that long ago.

[@KimmyLL1890]

@@twistedbliss58 every single thing and everyone in America is affected by slavery that’s how the country even exists today. They are not “complaining” because they acknowledge that fact.

[@steppinschool]

@@adrianna5378nobody age 30 or below have to deal with it though. Those are the main ones complaining.

[@dikhathatochimbwete2327]

A conversation all black people will appreciate and have waited for

[@ishy6875]

If you're African or African American.

[@johnconnor4749]

Not at all.

[@MrsLizziee]

@@ishy6875 Well... not all africans are black.

[@nicotinedietcoke]

I’m not black but I appreciate and have learned a lot from this video

[@blue-yc6iu]

No I can give af what a African says

[@eduardopapelo2413]

Not surprised why ppl been' asking where she's from the minute they hear Elizabeth speak. Her accent is sweet n beautiful. Hope she never loses it.

[@manoftmrrw]

This was very refreshing to watch. I'm happy to see progress in the unity of people of the diaspora. We must continue this conversation to know better and do better, my people

[@itsnatemate7697]

“But it’s still nothing compared to…” “I wouldn’t want to minimize that pain, what you just said hurt me…” I teared up. That’s how it should be nowadays. Instead of people putting down other marginalized groups history and gaslighting them with “well that was a long time ago” or “stop playing victim”

[@klaudinegarcia8932]

IKR??? White people make it sound so easy to move on. African Americans were enslaved for 400 years or more. Do they really expect healing can happen over night??? 😅 And it's not just slavery trauma African Americans are struggling with. They're also struggling with an identity crisis because their ancestors had to assimilate (more like erase) their culture and language.

[@neyou6940]

Bunch of pussies

[@Ninuoluwa]

Yea that part touched me too. ❤

[@heyitsbroski]

While it is tragic, they need to stop thinking they're the only ones that suffered. People of all races were slaves at one point or another and the transatlantic slave trade was NOT the worse of all-time. They need to start blaming their own people, the Africans that sold them to the Europeans for weapons. Blame the Jews that owned and operated the ships that brought them over. Staying in the victimhood mentality will always give them a reason to blame others rather than taking action of their own lives to better themselves and their culture.

[@swanton47]

@@heyitsbroski chattel slavery is nothing like the other forms of slavery and nobody said we were the only ones. The fact that other people were slaves does not minimize what we’ve been through when those scars and the affects are literally still here today. There were wars fought to get us back and some slaves were prisoners beforehand. And damn ok blame everyone except the white colonizers? Jews didn’t have as big of a role as you think

[@somebodyoulove]

Africans went through colonization and African Americans went through slavery. We all have different but some what similar histories. Also this group seem so intelligent and respectful.

[@deritmi_]

agreed!

[@woodzy4984]

Africans were sold buy their own country so I guess they went through slavery too.

[@itsymmetry137]

Africans also went through slavery; in fact, they played an integral part in creating the transatlantic slave trade.

[@thepubquiz3198]

Everybody went through Colonization and slavery.

[@nirvanak4634]

@@thepubquiz3198 This video isn’t about everybody

[@lifeordeath9228]

Not African or African American, but I am a First Gen Black (Caribbean) American. One thing I love about this conversation is that I relate to both camps, being perceived as and treated as an African American by society and having ingrained responsibility to pursue the American Dream to better support my family. This conversation gave me a lot to personally think about, this was a fantastic episode!

[@konlish]

I thought most Caribbeans have African heritage

[@Wokemelanaire]

You’re a Caribbean American not a Black American

[@barbiedreamzown]

You aren’t black American at all you’re Caribbean American

[@lifeordeath9228]

@barbiedreamzown reason I say Black (Caribbean) American is because while I acknowledge that I am literally a Caribbean American, I am socialized as Black / African American by American society. With the exception of keen Caribbean people, nobody is thinking I am anything other than African American. That's just how it is growing up here, if you are Black then you are put in the bucket of being African American even though that history does not inherently apply to you. Especially since I am able to articulate myself in an "American" accent, have a White sounding name, do not overtly wear or use anything that ties me to my Caribbean identity, or have any specific ethnic features that may allude that I am anything other than African American. Saying that I'm not a Black/African American doesn't make sense in that context. I am treated as one by society, so that is my lived experience. Even when I go back to the islands, they treat me as a foreigner despite my ethnic routes. Intersectionality due to nationally makes ethnic/racial matters more complex than one may think.

[@Wokemelanaire]

@@lifeordeath9228 no you can identify however you want yet you chose to identify as one of the descendants of American chattel slavery.. you are NOT one of us! You have no ties to this land. You are neither a Black American or African American. You’re a Caribbean American. Accept your ethnicity. Be proud of your ethnicity and culture. Don’t cosplay our ethnicity and culture!

[@lvencent]

I think the conversation was beautiful from cousins to cousins, understanding each others walk by sharing our shoes, bring us closer together and expand our respect-one-to-The-other ❤

[@ParadiseLoading]

It is so refreshing to see an actual dialogue with no screaming, yelling, name-calling, or cutting people off mid-sentence. I loved the mutual respect!

[@deejay7339]

That's yt behavior. Since there are none present, you see civility.

[@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0]

@@deejay7339 That’s racist

[@deejay7339]

@@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 facts can't be racist

[@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0]

@@deejay7339 What about your comment is factual? Watch you not respond, avoid the question, or straight up lie.

[@deejay7339]

@@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 All of my comment is factual. ✅ And nice job thumbs upping yourself in a min lmao.

[@mosandkaka]

As an African I appreciate the efforts of African Americans for fighting for the betterment of all black people in America. Without that fight us Africans would not be benefiting from these benefits.

[@merrytunes8697]

Thank you! That seems to be lost on some, as the only welcomed immigrants for decades were from European countries. Without the African American fight, there would be no African immigrants.

[@cutiepiettvjackson8744]

This is true, without the fight, Africans would be sent back to Africa and not even allowed the benefit of a better life, bullied, etc. All the things blacks went through would be put on Africans and it would be horrific, so the fight was worth it in the end. I do believe Black America has gotten way better for blacks.

[@floridababy974]

What benefits?

[@Nostalgia-im6wi]

@@merrytunes8697 YES!! Sometimes it's so difficult to explain this to people for some reason.

[@pierrejacque1994]

@@merrytunes8697 oh men thank you oh afro american but we are the richest black we also suceed thanks to our work

[@reyjdl14]

love seeing intellectual conversations like this. great episode!

[@Boobalopbop]

I loooooooved this conversation! So not what I was expecting. I love that everyone didn’t “sloganize” And spoke straight from their own experience, knowledge and heart.

[@jackieferrarimusic]

Freedom isn't just physical. It's also mental. You can be physically free and mentally enslaved to an ideology or something you have been through

[@racheljohnson7177]

Very true

[@animejesus8940]

preach

[@omnium_gatherum]

Or even mentally enslaved to something someone else has been through

[@bibaolaitan5189]

So how do you get out of it..... is it not by just being honest with yourself, instead of just blaming people.

[@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon]

That is totally true.

[@Jemimahcheesburger]

As Africans, we experience a very deep level of discrimination where there are divides amongst the people. There's a quote that says, "When brothers fight each other, outsiders inherit their property." And that is exactly what happens.

[@snowfall2507]

Yessssss!!!! I agree with this 100%

[@nwalden5744]

Y’all created it tho

[@putinsgaytwin4272]

Love that quote. I feel like it's applicable in every culture

[@looper964]

When brothers sell their brothers Fixed it for you

[@edwinamendelssohn5129]

Despots divide to conquer. Always have

[@shannondbrown1552]

I thoroughly enjoyed this panel. It is so interesting to hear their perspective and the stereotypes they have about us. I was pleased to see that once they heard the other out and put themselves in their shoes they were able to understand better. Such a wonderfully diverse and intelligent group of people. I think we should have way more discussions like this on higher platforms where some changes can actually be made. This world has turned into such a hateful horrible place and I’m afraid of where we are going…..

[@Becca77720]

I agree with Prosper and Elizabeth love what they were saying.💜

[@KamariaP]

This episode is how Africans and African Americans should be towards each other. I loved how open and accepting everyone was towards the different opinions. As someone who is African American, it does feel like there is a divide between us when there shouldn't be. I wish as a whole we could be more like this. Great conversation guys!

[@sasazamami]

but if you listen to the answers, you can hear how the Africans are grateful to the White Americans and that is what make us different. they have abandoned their homeland to do the white man's bidding and undermine the Black American struggle for reparations and liberation.

[@timbredan3476]

@@sasazamami well said

[@justwallace]

cause we didnt create the divide

[@angela7014]

@@sasazamami stop whining

[@sasazamami]

@@angela7014 where you from?

[@catherinecampbell1215]

As a black person born and raised in America with a Nigerian dad, this conversation is really great to see.

[@nigeriansista]

Yes, same here! I have a Nigerian dad and American mom

[@miurtouissi1093]

Do you consider yourself African American?

[@maryb.5668]

@@miurtouissi1093 I'm also a Nigerian raised in America. I don't consider myself African American because I'm truly not a direct descendant of slaves. Culturally though, Im a mix (I grew up under AA influences outside but at home, it was all Nigerian). It gets a bit complicated. but I consider myself a Nigerian simply living in America

[@miurtouissi1093]

@@maryb.5668 this is interesting. I'm Canadian from the Caribbean and I consider myself Canadian. I've always wondered how other black people from the diaspora living in the USA felt about their identity since AA have a strong culture and history but also being born in America for most makes you American. I guess I thought you would always see yourself as a Nigerian American but then I would also understand not since I would say I'm Canadian. I guess the slavery aspect of it is part of AA identity. I hadn't thought about that since I myself am a descendant of slaves.

[@bryant475]

It comes down to Parenting/Mindset/Culture (PMC), not race. Africans/Caribbean tend to be more successful because of PMC, that places high value on Godly morals, hard work and education, etc. Similar to Asians and other groups. Victim vs Victor mentality!

[@ladybugblack]

We need more conversations like this. Everyone speaking with respect & understanding. I love it 🖤🖤🖤

[@Twodime4032]

People complain but no one likes hearing ppl complaining, everyone has struggles. Asian struggles too everyone has issues don’t be cry baby

[@vic902]

As an African, I also think that because we are immigrants and had the choice of coming to America, that experience in itself will be quite different from African Americans who were initially forced to come over and went through generations of being in a system that didn’t allow them to have opportunities for career growth . Most African immigrants WHO do come over, have at some capacity exposure to education, work experience or connections. Not saying there are Africans who don’t come to America struggling but coming over to America requires most immigrants (especially African immigrants)to have some sort of aspect that makes them “valuable” for them to even attain a visa. I really don’t like when people try to say that Africans are more “successful” than AA cause we work harder and are not lazy. AA are just as successful but there are still families that are still going through that cycle of poverty and trauma due to slavery. While most Africans who happen to migrate to America with a set plan with high exposure are probably going to be successful anyways and instill that in their children. Comparing both groups in numbers regarding success misrepresents it cause keep in mind there are Africans back home who are also still trying to break cycles of poverty. So I’m just saying that immigrant experience is very much distinct than that of AA experience.

[@Queenc782]

Very well said 👏🏽

[@timbredan3476]

So well said!

[@anyaw340]

Completely agree. The US government does not select just anyone to come to the US, since many people would come here and be burdens on US society. They select people who have already demonstrated that they can persevere and achieve some level of success in their own countries. These are people who have already *proven* to be ambitious and talented in their own countries, but just need the tools of a first world country to really reach their potential. These are the kinds of people the US selects. Thus, immigrants in general (not just Africans) are more successful than *all* native-born Americans (not just African Americans) because they were selected specifically for accomplishments they've already made before they even got here. That's certainly a compliment to immigrant populations, but it's not reflective of their cultures in general.

[@vic902]

@@anyaw340 Exactly💯👏🏽👏🏽

[@mazvitaaa]

You definitely hit the nail on the head.

[@ceeshaki7305]

as an nigerian american, i appreciate this conversation it’s something we need to continue.

[@itsprincipe]

nigérian american how does that make sense

[@religiohominilupus5259]

@@itsprincipe Actually makes a lot more sense than saying "African American," "American," or even ""European." Neither of those are countries, they're continents. Nigeria's a country, so is the US, and so is Spain, just to name three. So yeah, OP specifying they're Nigerian American makes perfect sense. At least to me.

[@umiprincesscosplay]

@@itsprincipe it’s like Italian American, it’s a country within a continent. Like Nigeria is a country within the continent of Africa.

[@petergeramin7195]

@@umiprincesscosplay What are you talking about?

[@itsprincipe]

@@religiohominilupus5259 ok so would they be from america but their half nigerian or what

[@OuuThatteaHot]

I thought dude in the orange was legit From Africa 😂 I mean we our African but his blood line seems to be strong his features are very beautiful!

[@wintervanilla1966]

Watching from Nigeria and I'll say this is one of the best video I've watched and about racism part it is not something I'll ignore because if i face racism I'll be affected physically, mentally and emotionally

[@yankytank09]

I'm glad they had an older person's perspective. I wish there were an older perspective on the African side. All in all, this conversation was so healthy and insightful! 🙏🏾

[@liberatambua7271]

That would have been amazing. Our African grandparents have stories to tell, stories of the excruciating pain they went through under the colonial rule. There are some freedom fighters still alive in Kenya, and I doubt any of them wants to hear the name of the late queen, sorry to say

[@angelazsz]

i absolutely agree. an episode with elders of different cultures on the question of “how is life better/worse now than before” would be extremely insightful and educational

[@baridakara]

Yupp

[@Q.T-T]

They also need a woman on the AA side..

[@panlis6243]

As a polish person, I would love to see more episodes with people outside of USA

[@sleepyboi1964]

this ^

[@BitchChill]

This is a US channel

[@piececake5820]

@@BitchChill yeah, but an european episode would be so nice. Like to have people from different countries there to talk.

[@necrom4454]

@@BitchChill Yet they got African people for this episode

[@juanitacolette5766]

@@necrom4454what?

[@FelipeLobos-ig9px]

I love it.. This is a balanced conversation. This was done correct.

[@carlossantiago9926]

I love this one. Great conversation. It breaks my heart that racism is still a thing in this country. I legitimately thought that racism was something of the past when I learned about it in detail back in high school. It wasn't until my late 20's-early 30's that I started seeing that this crap was alive and well. I come from European decent with an eighth indigenous American and 3% African blood. I'm mixed up and so is everyone else. I wish people would recognize this, grow up, and let the hate go. Look at the big picture and realize that we are beautiful creatures sharing a tiny, little planet. I wish we could figure out how to look out for each other and play fair. There is no room for racism in my world-view.

[@Olivia-mj4vv]

One of the most chill Middle Ground episodes. There's no major arguing and fighting, just some understanding and calm talking and laughing. It's refreshing.

[@idku6554]

Honestly they should add in the casting the requirement of letting others talk and not interrupt. It gets so annoying I’ve stopped watching videos that was interested in because the people arguing would just shout at each other

[@antibullshit]

One of the best (and probably the most respectful) Middle Ground episodes to date

[@dapo3538]

💯

[@chrisvibz4753]

yeah because it was two of the same race homie. You just don’t see people liking white mfs anymore even tho they weren’t there during slavery you know?

[@career5690]

It is

[@createyouthnetwork9791]

Mesmo 😂😅

[@Dark.Scrolls]

Uh, wym? By the end of the video "white" people = still bad, which makes the whole video low IQ. The USA had a black president for 8 years.

[@oliviatagoeduring]

As a Black British, this was a beautiful discussion!

[@konlish]

I want to see a British version of this

[@thomaslinen9823]

We need to do this more. I tell my friends from Africa to stop judging Africans from America. We been through a lot. Miseducation, trauma, economic depreciation and terror. All of this was done to divide and conquer. Great video!

[@peachica]

goodness. everyone here is very insightful, intelligent, and they know how to have a proper discussion without being rude, interrupting, or disrespecting others. the best middle ground group hands down.

[@triple_gem_shining]

🤡

[@career5690]

@@triple_gem_shining ?

[@career5690]

@Mike Tython 🛑 that

[@milk6-]

Maybe they meant her pfp

[@peachica]

@@milk6- my FKA twigs pfp?

[@mayap3738]

I appreciated Elizabeth (Nigerian sista) because she acknowledged the negative way that many Africans feel about black/African-Americans but also confessed that through experience and research she was able to develop a more well rounded understanding. Hearing Africans say that their families are back home dying to come to America really makes me sad whenever I hear it cuz it should really be the other way around. We should be dying to come there.

[@isaiahprater8325]

Do they not teach this at school?

[@isaiahprater8325]

@Gleeful Glock bro who are you to say what I can and can not survive!? Once again, you fools continue to act like yall are better just because you don't use deodorant.

[@gleefulglock9461]

@Derrick Bol Yakwa 6’3 Most 😉

[@Bv3276]

@@derrickbolyakwa6395I’m an African American that just found her roots(Tikar of Cameroon) via AfricanAncestry test and I appreciate that. I love y’all fr! 🫶🏽

[@BB-ji3bb]

@@isaiahprater8325 😂😂😂 "Because you don't use deodorant" you're shameless, read a book abeg. You're uninformed

[@johnnyjohnson7077]

Very insightful discussions that were needed for some time. Reading other people's comments about the panel clearly impacted their perspectives, unexpectedly. The panel handled themselves well.

[@iyannawilliams3029]

I loved this conversation! I loved the many differences in the room and how everyone was able to disagree but still respect each other.

[@maggiemuriithi9648]

Elizabeth is just amazing How she puts her African perspective to her American life is beautiful Kudos from 🇰🇪🇰🇪

[@anodaone6525]

I think as black people, we need more of these conversations with each other. Black people all over need this. It helps us understand each other more.

[@fahimkar3361]

Africans are Africans. Afro Americans are black people. Just Afro Americans.

[@Northseattle-]

Ya ✊🏾✊🏿

[@someanimefan5990]

" Black people all over need this" Nope, not the privileged blacks in countries where they're the dominant majority; the privileged dominant majority should not play identity politics.

[@krash2430]

oh so now they are the privileged ones? not the americans that have acess to everything they need and yet still cry ? @@someanimefan5990ps: i'm not talking about the video

[@shawny5338]

@@someanimefan5990 Those and Conservative blacks are exactly who need to be a part of these conversations. Otherwise, you will only be in your own bubble and will never find alternatives or different points of view that could help Africans grow as a community.

[@user-rq9ti9pk2t]

I’m so glad to see Elizabeth back❤

[@cupofchi_]

i love this so much and this is my second video that ive seen with elizabeth. i just love her personality and wisdom.

[@NonStopParis]

I can’t help but feel there was a lost opportunity to include a black American woman. Other than that, very insightful and fascinating conversation.

[@jordanleighwheatley]

I agree and would've loved for a conversation between the women about racism in healthcare with those perspectives

[@zibz_art]

Yes, I thought about that too. When they were talking about a divide in African American communities, I wish there was a black woman, who experience/seen colorism to speak about it.

[@jordanleighwheatley]

@@zibz_art maybe they will repeat this episode and talk more about specific industries and racism. Retail, hospitality, healthcare, etc.

[@Curdii.]

@@zibz_art the American African American would've fucked that up

[@zibz_art]

@@Curdii. I am not sure why you would think that... strange...

[@inlivingcolor...abroad6099]

I love how Kai turned that statement about race obsession around. The reason why race is such a prominent conversation in America is in fact b/c laws were based on race and oppressing others for hundreds of years. You can’t hit someone repeatedly in the face and then say “let’s just move on”

[@suzygirl1843]

Wakanda Forever movie definitely had a hand in this happening because Africans and black Americans need to come together

[@_callmetre_2369]

@@suzygirl1843 I also think people completely missed the fact that Wakanda itself is supposed to be before Africa was colonized. So that’s why it’s an array of Black African folks in the movie. Like Winston Duke is from Trinidad. Letitia is Guyanese-British & the list just goes on & on. I think Ryan Coogler tried to included every ethnicity from the African Diaspora in the movie.

[@StarMercurian]

THIS

[@yungmetr0135]

the black people alive now did not get to experience laws that were based on race so what are u saying

[@devronl08]

@@yungmetr0135You’re acting as if the 60’s was over hundreds of years ago. Both of my parents were born BEFORE the civil rights movement. Not to mention my grandparents. MANY black people alive today have experienced laws based on slavery. And they still trickle into our laws today. Also my generation( in my family) is the first since the civil rights movement, so we aren’t far removed at all.

[@rachaelmutheu3312]

I like how it's been understated throughout this conversation that if you don't know much about a certain history but choose to educate yourself on it, you'll comprehend it. Whether you are African and have personal experience with colonialism and neo-colonialism or African American and have your fair share of experience with the systematic prejudice from the White Supremist system. I'm Kenyan, and I've always wondered why growing up, the media made me feel inadequacies about my skin color, hair, and so on, and why I unknowingly longed for what I wasn't. Now, being on the anti-racist journey of educating myself on the past is helping me make sense of so much that I'd have otherwise been blind to, and the bigger role these things play in propagating the white supremist narrative. I'm even beginning to understand where so many inequalities in colonised countries stem from, and this helps me in unpacking how I want to serve and contribute in the world! To quote Neely Fuller Jr, “If you do not understand White Supremacy (Racism)-what it is, and how it works-everything else that you understand will only confuse you.”

[@brightshining]

A most beautiful conversation, threading connection in our frayed world

[@shuffler111100]

I really wish there was someone from the Caribbean in this conversation. I feel we have a unique perspective as African descendants. Hopefully there's an opportunity for that to him in the future.

[@youtubesucks1821]

Big up to yout dem!

[@Aniwazoa]

I was thinking that as well!

[@anne-juliest-leger948]

Even Afro Canadian

[@youtubesucks1821]

@@anne-juliest-leger948 Who? Nobody cares about Canada.

[@YPM498]

@@youtubesucks1821 😂

[@reeik9000]

Best video they have posted. The Africans & African Americans really needed this conversation.

[@Ms.AshleyHoney]

I Agree

[@naomimosby5575]

I agree with this

[@SanctusObscurum]

What a beautiful and respectful discussion

[@yawaisnatural4344]

When I was in Ghana, I would tell, a lot of the locals about slavery! They looked at me like I had two heads!?! They never knew about the conditions of a slave, or how we are treated today! Some even laughed!!! but I totally get why they don’t get it, because American slavery was never part of any of their discussions! Ever!

[@KayKashi]

Wow we thought that all Africans new what happened even people were stolen and brought to America

[@KingofgraceSARA]

I find that so hard to believe considering Ghana is slave coast.

[@yawaisnatural4344]

@@KingofgraceSARA 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🙄 do you actually think that the kids in school over there in Ghana are being told about how slaves retreated in America!?!?🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ and they’re damn sure not being told how their forefathers sold my ancestors in two slavery!?!?!!!!

[@yawaisnatural4344]

Or better yet go there yourself and talk to them! And watch them look at you like, you’re speaking 🇷🇺!!

[@magdalinenjeri5262]

Very informative conversation. I am African and what prosper said about Tribalism is very accurate. The 'racism' we face here in Africa is in the form of 'Tribalism'. I am glad both sides acknowledge each others pain and points of view.

[@Sirie7206]

I had an Ethiopian friend. Beautiful girl. The Caribbean black girls hated her for being so beautiful. One time they tried fighting her at a club, they threw drinks at her. She would get the same hate from non African black girls. May she R.I.P.

[@Touchedbygod122]

So it’s not racism it’s self hate and the lack of a common identity and ideology with you guys ! Similar but tribalism is not the same thing as racism

[@magdalinenjeri5262]

@@Touchedbygod122 Quick question, where are you from? I ask this because just like we Africans cannot speak on racism(because we rarely rarely experience is first hand) if you haven't experienced tribalism first hand (like most Africans have,especially in my country) you shouldn't have such a "bold" opinion on it. While they are not exactly the same thing,they have similar effects on communities/people.

[@Touchedbygod122]

@@magdalinenjeri5262 Colorism is a form of tribalism We also have different demographics within the black community Afro Latin Creole And all other kind of mixture bi-racial That don’t classify themselves as solely black! Because of the exotic fetishized culture in the community from slavery la casta , platoons and quadroons . Just like the Indian caste system !! You should study more history!! We also were apart of an African tribe before slavery!!! So we can speak to the experience of tribalism!! Try again!

[@bgsonsthriving.]

Yes Tribalism is Africa’s biggest threat of racism is sad

[@Blakkbarbii101]

I’m from Senegal and I applied to be on this episode because these topics are so interesting. The people chosen were great. In high school I wanted nothing more than to share Africa with African Americans. Although many rejected me and mocked me for my background, some accepted me and l cherish those relationships greatly. I wish for African Americans to understand that we are truly not that different from each other. Hating each other fuels the fire of hatred that slavery and colonization created which means we lose in the end while they laugh at our demise. I wouldn’t be here freely as an African if it weren’t for your struggles. Let’s work as a team and make our ancestors proud. It’s a family reunion ❤

[@blomobloom9639]

How do you apply

[@sparklesp9304]

Yeah, some of our ancestors came from Senegal as well actually looking at DNA tests. I'd love to learn more. Im glad the Camaroonian gentlemen was there.

[@vilheard3030]

One of my best friends is from Senegal.

[@Blakkbarbii101]

@@vilheard3030 oh wow! It’s nice having friends from all walks of life.

[@Blakkbarbii101]

@@sparklesp9304 yeah the door of no return is in Senegal and so many slaves were taken from there as well 😢. I’m glad he was there also he had some great points.

[@gerissethlavalle6593]

One of the most respectful discussions I’ve seen on this channel. Great job!

[@mjb6839]

that stock analogy was brilliant

[@deborahwalakira2086]

Guys to be honest I am so glad . I have been wanting an African and African American middle ground vid to come out and finally it has happened . Sending love from 🇺🇬 Uganda .

[@dugebuwembo]

Hello Sis, another Ugandan 🇺🇬 here!

[@mulungiesther4462]

❤🇺🇬

[@deedee9835]

Kataala and Nakataala😂

[@cuupocabra1880]

I’m happy They been reading the comments because we all been asking!!!! :-)

[@onye9618]

I rarely comment on KZbin videos but I’m Nigerian and I want to commend Elizabeth because I feel like she explained how I feel perfectly. Especially when she said it’s easier for Africans to downplay racism because we don’t understand it. I mean we may understand it but you don’t fully understand something unless you have been through it. It’s easy to think “why’re you complaining when you literally have water?!” And not think about how everyone has struggles and Racism is a struggle black Africans have gone through. We have all suffered, no one’s suffering is less. It is all painful at the end of the day. I wouldn’t say I completely understand racism now but I am grateful for every black American who fought through resilience and effort to open doors for all black/African people because without them we would not have Africans in America at this point seeking opportunities.

[@tylergriffin2499]

They didn’t fight for anything without them Africans would still come with America stop acting weak

[@onye9618]

@@tylergriffin2499 I just stated my thoughts on it lmao. Don’t be so pained

[@tylergriffin2499]

@@onye9618 why would I be pained ? And lord knows you no African stop the cap

[@onye9618]

@@tylergriffin2499 you’re obviously pained because you’re here this early in the morning trying to invalidate my opinions. Why you think I’m not African is beyond me. I clearly stated that I am a Nigerian in the comment and I also just moved. Not you coming for me when you literally have the most English name ever. Tyler, abeg find peace with yourself and stop replying strangers comment. I wish you well

[@TychoKingdom]

That idea is so small minded also some people in America do not have access to clean water. But going back to the first idea. We do not stop fighting for better just because others have it worse. That's makes absolutely no sense to say oh people have it worse than me so I'm not gonna fight to make life better for me and my children. Why settle for less than you deserve. I think you don't get it because Black Americans are Americans we have the American spirit the American culture. We want the American dream we want luxury we want excess we are willing to work hard so we can play hard and we don't settle. Being idealistic is very American.

[@tressy92]

What I’ve noticed in regards to AA progression is; while there are programs available to apply for to get grants for small business or loans, when large amounts of Black people begin to apply for things like that rules and laws are created to slow the progression or loan rates are higher because of where they are from-the red line comes into play. So you move forward a bit, but “don’t try to get past or catch up” to others.

[@Cici-st2yz]

I thought it was interesting that those from Africa were aware of those in America and their history. I didn't hear from the African Americans as much understanding towards the struggles and experiences of those living/from Africa. It would've been nice to hear their knowledge and understanding of others struggles/experiences as well.

[@dontaskdonttell_]

they don’t care. it’s all about ME ME MEEEEEEE

[@Cici-st2yz]

@@dontaskdonttell_ why is that? Everyone has a story and it should be heard, not just one community.

[@jessicakarenmartin]

"Race isn't an obsession, it's a distraction..." - Very true!!

[@TychoKingdom]

Race is the law of the land.

[@ALemonAteHer]

It's a distraction when your obsessed with it

[@god563616]

yes

[@Moepowerplant]

I have a suspicion that differences in skin color, etc. are simply excuses to rally the masses (perhaps the only people who actually care about those things) of their respective nations behind them, but the elite know the real division in society: haves and have-nots.

[@edwinamendelssohn5129]

@@TychoKingdom where?

[@majidMouzin]

I'm not black, not African, not American and not white. So as a total outsider to this conversation, i really appreciate how everyone was so understanding of each other's points and there was no angry dismissiveness. Gained a lot of perspective.

[@corythegoat2745]

And black Americans ain't African! But some Africans ancestry is from America!

[@frenchkisse.]

@@corythegoat2745 literally all black people are originally from Africa, what are u on abt

[@xiao-sn1lq]

⁠@@corythegoat2745black americans have african ancestry and how would african people have ancestry from america

[@xiao-sn1lq]

they’d be mixed

[@tylerrenz2505]

Thanks for taking the time to watch. Means a lot that you seek understanding and not judgement. Cool human 😊

[@meeraftaddesse8956]

I loved this discussion. I wish it would happen more often.

[@fanceym2770]

So wholesome 🤗 and the Nigerian lady made a lot of sense

[@jhsemoxitha3821]

Finally. The most requested video on Jubilee. This video was requested multiple times by multiple people for YEARS, and Finally it's here.

[@daliborandic4046]

True

[@erilutsubayaki6262]

Ikr people have been waiting for ages

[@itsonlytherain736]

I thought they would never make it

[@career5690]

@@itsonlytherain736 I thought that they wasn’t gonna make it too.

[@sydneyr3460]

Idk about y’all, but I’m disappointed

[@KAIXOmusic]

So proud to represent my community in this episode and those among us who may not be the first ones invited to the conversation. So much love for all the people involved in this and love my African fam

[@chiblesstheraindowninafric9932]

Love you too Kai. I wish we would all come back together and be brothers and sisters like we used to be. 🖤🖤

[@CeeJai_K]

Really, really enjoyed you Kai. Blessings to you.

[@lungamadoda6992]

When you said your last name is king that brought tears in my eyes , I remember visiting the UK and there’s a large number of Caribbean people there and me coming from South Africa it was a shock to see how they all had slaves names and last names at that point I knew slavery was real😢

[@Specialeena]

Your contributions were brilliant, and this cohort gives one hope for Black unity! Peace and blessings!

[@SuperAH1985]

👏👏 It was such a great episode and very interesting. Thank you for your insights! Great point about how race obsession is a white supremacy issue.

[@romancewriter6296]

I just want to say something about going back in time with records: I think the sadness and recentment of not being able to go back and trace your ancestry as a black person in America is felt in comparison to white people of European descent. I can think of my husband's grandmother who was Algerian and no one even knew her real age. She was born in a rural village in Algeria where no written record was kept, not even a birth year, so there is no ancestry to be traced there. He can't even go back to before his grandparents and it wasn't because of colonization, just because of the local culture.

[@stenson05]

I’m so glad Skip was there. He made so many points relevant to his era that have still managed to affect the present generation of Black Americans and immigrants but are now happening covertly. For reference: telling us Black Americans that racism does not exist would be the equivalent of BA’s telling someone from an African country that tribalism does not exist. I wish SKIP would have brought up how Black Americans’ Civil Rights Movement led to Non-White immigrants being able to actually come to this country. I also like how he stops & acknowledges the Cameroonian genocide even after the guy in the blue shirt tried to diminish the plight of Black Americans. Which I find amazing when he later goes into how he was profiled and arrested. I realize we have access to many things here that others did not in their countries of origin and it should not be that way in 2024. However, I think other diasporans must understand that if Black Americans accepted the bare minimum here in this country and never fought back, melanated people of other nationalities would very well still not be able to migrate here and PROSPER the way they do currently. Just something to keep in mind when some of you are comparing struggles instead of just acknowledging and respecting everyone’s struggles with equity and sufficient historical context. If there’s another conversation like this, I hope Black American women from different age groups are included. I know the younger generations have been mastering genealogy and are now very well at tracking family history back to the 1700s and beyond. Also, Black American millennials and younger that are more well versed with our ethnic group’s history here in America are very proud of our history and our heritage as we should be. We have been here rooted in this country 400-500 years. It is our home the same way Brazil is home to Brazilians, Jamaica is home to Jamaicans, etc.

[@2ndCallSkipp]

💯💯

[@lethabomokgatle357]

I’m so happy to have been part of this episode 😊

[@ashley4764]

you were amazing!

[@bell-heir2934]

Love your take on the American dream

[@Ummkelechi]

You were amazing!! I actually loved your insight 😊

[@ivyrainbitch]

Are you planning on building up your home country?

[@ivandrago782]

@@ivyrainbitch why you replying to every comment? get a job bro.

[@sunflowerangelnctzen]

it would be really interesting if you could do a “North Africans vs Middle Easterns”. especially after all the heated conversations that surfaced during this Qatar world cup

[@HB-ey2dk]

That sounds like it could be very dangerous lol

[@memeaw2537]

That sounds like it could be very interesting

[@WbbBasketballfan222]

Yeah ok like the Arabs are going to take any accountability.

[@belle6358]

@@zuki7776 there are some north africans who identify as only arab then there are north africans who just identify as amazigh and african. some arabs try to claim north africans especially during the FIFA World Cup as Morocco came close to the finals.

[@belle6358]

@@zuki7776 yes you are correct. it’s just that some north africans do not like being called arab because they are amazigh.

[@JulindaLeDee]

This is a wonderful and much needed conversation

[@MandosCulture]

Absolutely excellent Panel great video and great individuals

[@inesr.mcgrath8010]

Coming from Cameroon, new in the us, facing tribalism, racism, and so much question that have been opened here... I thank you guys for this conversation. I actually needed it

[@ib6019]

Hi namesake, lol. My name is Inès too.

[@yasim]

It's sad to see black Americans hating Africans, while we welcome them to Africa 😢

[@nwalden5744]

Africa has racism too

[@popdavid-dd4lx]

Get ready to hurt and not want to live, let alone live here. Be sure to go outside frequently

[@chellynoob3215]

me too 🇨🇲 🇨🇲!!

[@a4l4l]

Thanks for letting me be apart of this episode Jubilee!

[@DaddyM7MD]

Lance, hi.

[@CGR1000.]

I respect and agreed with what you had to say💯

[@shakiyagotdreams2299]

U did so well 🎉

[@cadeolsen59]

Heyy

[@a4l4l]

@@DaddyM7MD hi

[@riellecasey8082]

Beautifully done and expressed!! This made me proud to look like both sides 😅

[@justinbutler9165]

Ngl the older gentleman had some amazing comments. Not all aspects of thinking are alike with me. However, very well spoken.

[@kassdremusic]

I’m Nigerian and what Black Americans have done. Should be applauded more. They are great, talented people.

[@fruitsarelife7073]

I agree 100% . They deserve more credit and understanding. They are amazing and strong.❤️Im Eritrean.

[@DefSquadFan]

The impact of slavery on law, generational wealth, self-esteem, culture, and relationships with whites today all come from slavery.

[@travelpro23]

And Africans would NOT be able to come to America and thrive without the sacrifices of American black people (civil rights movement, etc.). Do Africans really know and understand what people went through during the time of Jim Crowe and the horrific things people had to go through for basic rights, and African people just come to benefit off of all of that hard work??? Yes, it definitely needs to be applauded much more!

[@queenbbeaute2654]

Thank u We really appreciate it seems its easier for ppl to just hate first vs educate themselves and understand

[@natriac.6092]

@@travelpro23 Why do you feel so attacked. Like you are being so passive-aggressive. "African people just come to benefit off of all of that hard work" Both sides suffered, for your information.

[@lajoieurmom6011]

As an African person I really appreciate that they made this video. Bc I've always felt like Africans and African-Americans are really different in a lot of ways. Edit: I didn't mean to start a whole fight in the comment section, I just wanted to highlight my experience of living in the USA and seeing how different Africans and African-Americans are. Like their behavior and how they talk primarily 😭

[@Beno_nolove]

We are

[@reggiemiller6274]

We had to fight for our rights and while we were doing that the Africans waited until the smoke clear to come over and reap the benefits off the slave ancestors.

[@tommygogetter5992]

Africa isn’t homogeneous hence why somalis don’t like ethopia. East Africa has interacted for with the middle east and Africa than west Africa. Skin pigmentation has nothing to do with culture

[@Peach-hl3hz]

@@reggiemiller6274 ohh this 🙌🏽 they really would never understand our struggles!

[@danifranc7011]

We are n that's ok

[@konlish]

That was quite interesting thank you all for sharing your experience and views. I'm from Indian heritage and grew up in several African countries. I have an interest in cultural diversity so I do ask people where they are from as a way to get to know them

[@Yzygamer]

Pop was so on point, I would like to have a very long conversation with him

[@Harzeezreport]

As an African-American in Atlanta, I have these conversations all of the time with African friends and their friend groups. I feel fortunate to have the upbringing and point of view that I do. It really helps in these conversations.

[@nova77791]

The word slave comes from the word slav. The fa t is there were more white slaves in africa than black slaves in america...

[@dondrickdem]

@@nova77791 where's the proof

[@nova77791]

@@dondrickdem just wiki it. Fairly easy if u really want to know

[@nova77791]

@@dondrickdem u cant copy links to utube. But u can also look up the term in the dictionary.. if u dont even bother to look it means ud just prefer to stay in ignorance as it fulfillls a belief

[@Harzeezreport]

@@nova77791 wiki is not a reliable source, speaking from research experience and working at libraries

[@itsmj3103]

I loved how Kai couldn't stop laughing at Elizabeth's jokes. You can always see him in the frame laughing when Elizabeth was being funny, he seems to appreciate her humor a lot lol 8:32 12:21

[@Issaydee]

And 23:00 :)

[@lungamadoda6992]

I caught that too😂

[@williamchimezie7423]

Yea I saw that too Nigerians can be so funny without even trying

[@asfanmarkmcgwire]

@@williamchimezie7423 facts haha

[@benjaminbawa5273]

@@williamchimezie7423 Facts.

[@MakeUpRoom1940]

This was an amazing conversation ! Thank you. Kai is a Gem xxoo

[@charliesimmons9392]

Skipp’s point about supporting community vs supporting the system was something that I never had really thought of, very accurate point

[@adorablebelle]

Same! I never saw it this way before.

[@TopS7]

As African it always irritates me when other Africans say AA's complain too much about racism in America not understanding the history of AA's and how it's still connected systemically to what's happening today when it cames to how they're unfairly treated disproportionately in incarceration, housing, poverty or even getting a loan from the bank. As a Somali I'm very thankful for AA's their voices matter. The sacrifices they made directly benefits us. What some don't understand is what happens in America directly affects the rest of us. The U.S government has huge amount of controll and leverage over the continent of Africa. Only the politician's and the leaders they choose will stay in power as they will use their unlimited resources to manipulate and instigate till they get the outcome they desire in Which is based solely on exploitation.

[@TopS7]

@Blessing You're not seeing this thru clear eyes the wide spread inequality practices that was implemented against their ancestors for generations is the root cause and there is a direct link between poverty and crime.

[@Jeff-xv6gk]

@Blessing it’s part of the problem the reason why crime rates are high in black communities is the lack of resources they just did a study saying if black Americans receive reparations the crime rate will go down drastically!

[@TopS7]

@@Jeff-xv6gk She is only seeing the smaller picture. There list of issue why things are way they are. There was governmental policy to undermine black people in American for a long time and when it comes to crime rates AA's are always under the scope black neighborhoods are Patrolled more racist judge's, profiling, stop and frisk etc ...

[@ivyrainbitch]

​@Blessing build upbyour home countries African booty scratcher

[@anonymousbo0318]

@@TopS7You people never take accountability, you're clowns

[@faithnazulme5718]

I think it is sooo important to consider the different impacts of being oppressed by your own people versus others. Of course, as a whole it’s awful, but there are definitely differences. And black Americans notice this too. Thinking about how Prosper was explaining that hurt of knowing so many innocent lives are lost, and it’s because they are not being looked at as a life but as a way to prove a point. Or it’s like incredibly hurtful because you know that people are just being reckless and careless with others lives. And it has more to do with people just being bad people. When it comes to the slave trade, the African slaves brought to america would have had of course experienced the same thing in their own cultures before. It’s natural to have that within groups in species. But when you have someone look at the color of your skin, then for generations convince you that you are not human and show you books with quotes from the deemed creator validating those ideals. It really forces us to have a completely different relationship with this country. There was so much healing that needed to be done after everything that the young boy so beautifully explained that took place sequentially. And this is not in any way to say who’s had it worst or compare the struggles. But as a answer to one of the prompts and as an examplanation to why I think a lot of us who are defendants from slaves of the slave trade cannot just disregard that part of our history and move along. Our people have fought so hard to remember how hard needed to fight.

[@saefhenryosas1611]

Very enlightening. Looking forward to having an African parents version vs African American parents version. An insightful conversation that would be.

[@iasminfelix4667]

As a black brazilian, I thank you guys for this open conversation, very clarifying

[@sandman62100]

Are you single?

[@HundredManSlayer-]

​@@sandman62100nah bro ur down terrible

[@BoysKasa]

nunca, nunca

[@MikeyLikesIt89]

Just saying hello to my sister from Brazil. I really think it’s long past time for a stronger connection between African Brazilians (I don’t know how you all refer to yourselves) and African American because I truly believe in we are the only two groups of African people who can understand each other’s struggles.

[@NathaliLima1]

@@MikeyLikesIt89 and afro-colombian too

[@jesseross2641]

As a native from Aotearoa , I’d love to see “progressive Native Americans vs traditional Native American”

[@MB-mg6ky]

😂😭😭

[@indiald3373]

interesante @Jesse Ross

[@Zeyede_Seyum]

Where?

[@1ZzSuenoszZ1]

@@MB-mg6ky I'm confused what's so funny?

[@SunnyandNova]

You mean $5 Indians vs Traditional Mongoloid Native Americans? 😂😂 that would be so awesome

[@lawrencebello6177]

October 17th 2023. This was a needed conversation. Someone mentioned that there should have been an African American woman on the panel , and I agree. Would’ve brought a different perspective. As a Nigerian myself, with cousins that are African American , this was really cool to see.

[@Xphinity]

19:58 Kai, so well said! I Agree with you, I have never been able to put it like that before

[@yvonnekagondu7030]

The energy in the video feels calm, it's like the two groups of people feel safe around each other

[@shoshonnie7796]

Safe? Why because they’re all black? Nonsense, you’re statistically more likely to be attacked by someone who looks like you. I’m black and i don’t see this imaginary racism these people are talking about, I’m more afraid of someone that looks like me VS somebody who doesn’t.

[@deejay7339]

No yt that's why. Perfect.

[@imanahmed9754]

🧬

[@ItsMissChas5]

I can appreciate that.

[@bouroboumambaye2270]

family moment

[@dagurushow3262]

We need a Haitian and Dominican conversation like this

[@Shahdae2001]

I would pay to see that conversation

[@fsoto2900]

No we dont…. Both of those countries are equally corrupt poorly ran by their own country people… enough said… you can say that about each country in the Caribbean… they are poorly ran by Godless children of the Devil.

[@AmonRa1081]

Now THAT would be a great conversation.

[@regularpaul8142]

Wooosh they not ready for that.

[@franciscoaguzman1730]

Great idea

[@osazeimohe7269]

i love this video omg😩yall ATEEEEEE

[@richardrodney2274]

This is lovely and everyone was open minded they came to give perspectives and learn understandings

[@ahmypeace]

This is soo golden. As a Nigerian in the US, I have experienced different layers of biases and prejudices back home( cultural, social, economic and institutional biases etc). We were raised in struggles- to strive to get the bare minimum, that when we come here in the US and see AA complain, we feel that they are being ungrateful to the system that provided everything we struggled to get even in a place we call HOME. ‘I mean, how can I as an immigrant have access to scholarships, housing, quality food, security etc’. However, after a class in digital cultures with many people narrating their biases, I realized that even we who want our marginalized voices to be heard (regardless of place) have in fact become passive oppressors to other groups who we gaslight because we don’t relate to their struggles. And by doing so, we become the very oppressor we sought to repress. Therefore, by acknowledging each other’s pain like Skipp did in the beginning of the video where he acknowledged the struggles in Cameroon while also acknowledging generational and modern slavery of AA in America, we can all build a healthy community. Biases and struggles exist even in the tiniest unit of human existence, until we acknowledge ALL, we will keep fighting for equality and equity.

[@optiontopviewclub5366]

As a african Americans I think this was beautifully said. Thank you

[@PrinceZakariyya]

Great comment

[@gvilleboy352]

Thought-provoking comment. Well done.

[@amarigibson9447]

Don’t Africans get money from the government in the us

[@amarigibson9447]

Just to check if it was true

[@zaiah9252]

As an African American, this conversation needs to happen

[@ruthkashika5330]

As an African I agree

[@jasmine-kg7dd]

It already happened.

[@robbobthebot7359]

@@jasmine-kg7dd he probably meant needed excuse his grammar

[@kayaphus4303]

African Americans have many excuses. Africans dont have the luxury of excuses.

[@alexisrobinson9180]

This conversation has been ongoing and tiresome there are entire chanels dedicated specifically for this

[@tamupwork]

As a black woman living in Canada, none African, and None African American. I am always appalled about how African people come to America and tell African Americans who've been there and born there for more than 400 years, to stop thinking about racism and that it's a false concept. It is just crazy to me. Africans and AAs do not have the same experience at all. Also, AAs are not immigrants or recent immigrants, they are full Americans. So the mentality and experience are very different. Africans search for opportunities, while AAs fight for their rights as Full American citizens of many generations.

[@kr1373]

Period! Thank you.

[@ciciolhaaqui]

Victimisation at its fullest

[@CA-pp5nx]

@@ciciolhaaqui No your ignorance is at its finest

[@Kekoa552]

​@ciciolhaaqui nah it makes sense They should be fighting because If you see the prison system it usually black people that get more time and get jailed than any other race and that gotta be alarming We need to look into this and there was injustice going on that was discovered you can say victimization but it not entirely the truth I used to agree but now it ain't like that

[@Cameron-kv6kq]

@@ciciolhaaquiare you gonna explain how or you just gonna leave a blanket stwtement

[@neripotts6047]

Prosper spoke the truth! Loved to hear the African perspective

[@adriennem1003]

The gentleman in the blue expressed beautifully the opportunities we have here..even if it seems small. Coming from where he's from, he's very grateful for any opportunity.

[@silent1267]

He doesn't have the victim mentality... he's the most logical one

[@buuurrrrppppp221]

Agreed, really wish the older guy hadn't cut him off around 7:30 would like to have heard his full point

[@lordquastheonly]

@Tre Tyler you can’t have ptsd for something you’ve never experienced it doesn’t work like that

[@NordeGrasen34]

​@@lordquastheonly Intergenerational trauma is real and has been proven.

[@aaliyahhowayd98]

@Lord Quas you absolutely can though. per the dsm-5 (the manual used to diagnose every mental disorder there is) literally the first criteria is either: direct exposure to a traumatic event, witnessing a traumatic event, learning that a relative/close friend was exposed to a traumatic event OR indirect exposure to details of a traumatic event. being directly exposed to something traumatic is only 1 of 4 ways to meet this criteria