Are we CRAZY for buying 6 of these!? - Blackmagic URSA Mini Pro 12K

[@wohnai]

My crystal ball is telling me a new LTT storage server is coming soon.

[@williamrose3413]

The yottabyte project lol

[@Northern_Sea]

@@williamrose3413 More like Yeetobite Project if Linus drops it while mounting into the server rack.

[@winstonvkoot]

@@williamrose3413 or if they want the vieuws yodabyte

[@rustyshackleford5166]

Can't wait

[@lucaspagote3042]

Also upgrading every editor machine to support 12k footage hahaha, probably ryzen 5000... Great!

[@sethmurphy6771]

“We run out of server space so quickly!” -Linus “Let’s record all of our videos in 12k”- also Linus

[@MirdjanHyle]

Imagine crying because your petabyte wasn't enough

[@SimoBenziane]

BRAw is very efficient, it's probably less than the RED 8k

[@FCPWHAT]

If you need the space then… You need the space!

[@addmd_]

actuualy 6K so it downscales nice to 5K or 4K

[@Danirio96]

Let's all hear Riley yelling technews at us at 12k

[@kdawg3484]

Listing soon to be on eBay: "Water-cooled RED 8K camera"

[@grayzelfx]

RGB water-cooled lol

[@TCHGOD]

@wmert w, no.

[@CenturionAlexander]

@wmert w no

[@DctrGizmo]

Me watching this on a 24" 1080p monitor: "Ah nice."

[@XS10SEALS]

Me watching this on my iPhone at 480p: “Ah noice.”

[@mouinemhb4960]

me watching this on 360p due to internet limitations

[@sachinbahadoorsingh5725]

18 inch @ 768x whatever resolution 768 is with

[@fu3go27]

Dont forget I'm on that also

[@Jacobpeasely]

Me watching on 3ds at 144p “I cant see anything”

[@JosephParlindungan]

LMG : "Now we are using Blackmagic, let's switch to DaVinci Resolve" Taran :"Years of making shortcut wasted!"

[@Gio_EL]

I believe you can import Premier keyboard shortcuts to Resolve, or are you referring to something else? Cheers! = )

[@pwii]

Resolve is significantly easier to script though, they have a python/lua API, it's possible to run scripts directly in Resolve, and even from a python/lua script running separetely

[@4.0.4]

@@pwii that sounds awesome.

[@Darkest_matter]

Shotcut is A VERY GOOD video editor

[@uwirl4338]

Resolve is a much better thought-out piece of software thought. Pretty sure a point and click workflow in Resolve is faster than whatever macro monstrosity Taran has turned his Premiere into.

[@ozun]

Blackmagic is way better than red in terms of pricing and customer care.

[@ivandrol4733]

Unless you’re a famous KZbinr or media group LOL

[@joemurgolo4917]

That makes no sense

[@the_prado]

@@joemurgolo4917 it does, trust me

[@zuhayrhannan9484]

Red be like: We love our customers money

[@sethtomas4930]

@@ivandrol4733 corridor crew?

[@noahlistgarten7832]

Two of the things I love about Blackmagic Design: 1) They LISTEN to customers, do free software/firmware upgrades (also free version of Resolve!), implement user feedback, are in tune with their customer community. 2) FPGAs! Please please please mention this in the LTT video! Their cameras are built on FPGAs instead of ASICs, so when they release firmware updates for their cameras, monitors, and other devices, they're effectively doing HARDWARE upgrades. It's how they can add better quality options to their devices than were previously available and even add RAW output options to cameras that didn't have it before or add encoding for new formats to cameras via firmware upgrades.

[@asjdiaosdjasd]

FPGA? man that's nice

[@noahlistgarten7832]

@@asjdiaosdjasd Yeah, their founder/CEO, Grant Petty, explained it at one of the recent (last year or two) launches/product updates. (It might have been NAB 2019?)

[@WayStedYou]

3) Australian

[@WayStedYou]

4) founder grew up in public housing

[@manikamali]

FPGA is *crazy*

[@PlamenDrop]

Fun fact. Blackmagic NEVER includes an IEC cables with their hardware. Even for their products that cost over 5 figures. That's why I always buy a pack of IEC cables anytime I buy anything BMD.

[@noahlistgarten7832]

To be fair, if you're buying a 5-figure BMD device, you probably either have $3 to buy an IEC cable or have a ton of extra IEC cables lying around from everything else you own or have once owned

[@alexdavis9324]

@@noahlistgarten7832 I'm just an average guy and have at least 5 of those cables laying around.

[@Crlarl]

Do you mean a C13 cable? IEC is a standards organization, not a power connector.

[@noahlistgarten7832]

Alex, yeah me too. Carl, yeah - C13. But in the A/V and theater world, I’ve only heard it referred to as an “IEC cable.” As you point out, that terminology isn’t technically correct. In A/V, we don’t really use any cables other than C13, so it generally isn’t confusing.

[@Crlarl]

@@noahlistgarten7832 Makes sense. It's just strange to me. It's a bit like calling CAT-5/5e/6 cable "ethernet." It's technically wrong but everybody does it and it causes no confusion.

[@SlayCC]

Can you Overclock it to 13K?

[@DarkNexarius]

lol no. overclocking could increase framerate but not resolution

[@maneater901]

Nexarius its a joke lol

[@genau14zeichen]

“12K also has some post-workflow stuff that we need to work out“ Smells like rig upgrades for the whole editing team, doesn‘t it?

[@aszher]

Upcoming ryzen 5000 and rtx 3090s

[@Jaker788]

@@aszher Maybe, although Linus doesn't like using cutting edge things for important work. He prefers stable proven hardware after a few years of being out. The last 2 upgrades were end of life components like the HEDT 6th gen stuff, and then I think old Threadripper was after that.

[@adrienpayet]

No the recording format (BRAW) is far more efficent that the RED raw. It runs smooth on an macbook pro !

[@genau14zeichen]

@@adrienpayet even 12K?

[@adrienpayet]

@@genau14zeichen Of course shooting 12K I think they won't be saving but won't be loosing space either in comparison with the 8K Red. Furthermore you have the option to shoot constant quality on the Blackmagic which let's the camera vary the bitrate if complex informations like confetti enters the frame. On the Red you would need to shoot the whole scene at a higher bitrate. The Braw codec is really solid, purists would say "not as good as the red one" but so much faster to edit, it runs so smoothly it's amazing.

[@DarkSwordsman]

Me watching 12K footage at KZbin's 4K on a 24" 1080p monitor. "*yeah that looks pretty good*"

[@mohamedzainsheikh9241]

I got a 1080p Monitor. Only thing is my internet - rather my company's internet - can only handle 144p without absolutely recking the company's performance.

[@mommyandson6237]

“Hopefully you have a spare cable at home”: me just like, my car isn’t worth as much as this camera

[@mrniceguy4277]

My entire property is worth less than that

[@_alucid_]

Mr Niceguy Where tf do you live?

[@Supermuffin5000]

@@_alucid_ i think in terms of what he owns and not the land he lives on

[@mrniceguy4277]

@@Supermuffin5000 Exactly, I'm a student in Germany and don't have any reserve assets or anything like a car. I get federal funding and a bit from my dad. But I could easily live for a year with 10k

[@jaxxrr]

I could buy my car 20x with the price of one camera

[@alexwhite1624]

"Are we CRAZY for buying 6 of these?!" No, just Linus. He personally went YOLO on them

[@summushieremiasclarkson4700]

That's nothing for him.

[@wibble4321]

I think Linus has been pretty clear on his feelings about Red as an organisation for their pricing practices. Any realistic chance he was given to break their hold was going to be catnip to him.

[@aspzx]

He explains the decision in this video (starting at 3:11) kzbin.info/www/bejne/opzVlXappNCVe7c

[@wibble4321]

@@mikeycrackson certainly not casual, but the Reds he has still have value plus the accessories. I think it is more about not wanting to continue investing in Red. Sure $60k is a lot of money, but in the grand scheme of a business like LMG, they are going to be just as concerned about ongoing costs of the ecosystems as the upfront capital outlay. Plus of course are all the features and benefits that the BMs have that provide content opportunity for the channels like he said and @aspzk pointed out.

[@wibble4321]

@@mikeycrackson this is true, but I think we tend to forget that a lot of the time, what is bought for the business is often content as much as it is a tool. They'll get (and Linus said as much) a lot of content just from testing the BM cameras. The more videos about the cameras, the more they pay for themselves. Then there is the added productivity they could produce. Yes a 10-20 minute KZbin video isn't the same as a 2 hour feature film, but all of the same processes still apply. Also, don't forget that most LMG content is uploaded at 4k and that it is almost always better to shoot in higher resolution and then reduce. You get many options then to reframe, zoom and so on after the event. Lastly, LMG produces tech content, it's kinda part of the job to stay at the front of the curve in most areas even if they (as a business function) don't really need it. It is about generating buzz and interest as much as anything for them - and they do it jolly well.

[@chaeyoungie9232]

Next week on LTT: "We Watercooled A Black Magic URSA Mini Pro 12k".

[@djhokage1]

If they sell their reds, they literally made profit of this change

[@TheBasti05]

Did they get the Reds as a present?

[@krisdphillips]

@@TheBasti05 No, Linus showed the bill. The REDs were definitely purchased. And the price tag was ridiculous.

[@dubious6718]

They might make even They wont get full price for the Reds, and the one they picked apart they most likely wont sell

[@Hoch134]

@@dubious6718 With the accessories they would sure get 60k for them. And I could even imagine that the watercooled one would be sold (maybe even for more) to some enthusiast.

[@billyoung9538]

@@Hoch134 Why do I get the feeling we might see a water cooled Ursa 12K video if this all works out...

[@collinschofield808]

I have suggested this elsewhere, but here it is again: Since you have 6 Of them, RIG THEM INTO A 360 CAMERA!

[@danieltroger]

fuck yes. Imagine finally seing sharp 360° video

[@strajkz]

Ah yes, 12k, 60fps, 360º porn video, just the type of content my HTC Vive Pro needs.

[@s0uls4nd]

@@strajkz O

[@Juhuuu]

It would probably work for outside panorama shots but close up I think the length of the camera + lens would create too much distortion. Don't know if that's something you can mitigate in post.

[@mranon7091]

@@strajkz Jesus! That was what I was missing too. 12K, 60fps, 360* will be heavenly in HTC Vive

[@Spice]

Disappointing they didn't call it "URSA Minor" instead of mini.

[@TK-rs9lq]

Now that you said that, I'm disappointed too.

[@royk7712]

Yep. Disappointed

[@naufalap]

maybe they don't want more people in the film industry to touch a minor

[@TheXylezz]

@@naufalap As if the film industry ever had a problem with that

[@eskilhr]

"URSA Major" 32K

[@zuhayrhannan9484]

Black Magic: 12k at a fair price Red: I’m gonna act like I didn’t see that😅

[@topup246]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/enq2o2Oof8aqjpo

[@manaspradhan8041]

You're comparing a cinema camera's price to a somewhat 'prosumer focused camera company'. The likes of arri Alexa and red are used in hollywood

[@amon_san]

i have no inside knowledge of the camera industry but from what i could gather on LTT and related channels RED seems to be the Apple Inc. of cameras. of course they could cost less but the market they appeal to doesn't really care about such trivialities as cost of purchase.

[@karthik2166]

Good job finding the cine lenses to resolve 80MP "SUPER 35mm" sensor.

[@mariomoneta2833]

@@manaspradhan8041 ... in Hollywood they use more expensive cameras than the reds one, they are cameras that you can't move and cost like $250k with everything included or more...

[@MisakaSkywalker]

Blackmagic: not including power cable Me: Apple had taught you well.

[@KyleAckerProductions]

Nah they are the OGs of no power cable, even their ATEM Switchers don't include the power cable.

[@robertpennington5926]

At least it’s a standard cable though

[@ArthursHD]

We already have far too many of IEC C13 cables - it is more efficient to deliver cables by the truck load rather than making a lager box for the sensitive equipment inside and raising shipping costs!

[@damantioworks]

It's also better for them because they dont have to ship different countries plugs

[@armelgd5675]

Maingear too

[@MadScienceHacksTV]

Well...If you wanna do tax write-offs the right way ....

[@egg6649]

Exactly my plan.

[@thechrisandrew_]

Brandon: "Hey Linus what's our budget on filming equipment for 2020?" Linus: "Yes"

[@kenfresno2125]

There are people filming on cameras that cost literally 1/10th what ONE of these cameras does, and their videos look far better. A higher resolution isn't going to fix Brandon's inability to properly light or frame a shot. This is another massive waste of money. One day Linus will hire a Director of Photography and never get over the fact that he let this kid set fire to $200,000.

[@hailgod1]

their red cameras cost way more

[@petouser]

@@hailgod1 Red cameras are overpriced anyway.

[@petouser]

@@kenfresno2125 Since they sell their old cameras, the investment isn't that high anyway.

[@seemysight]

@@kenfresno2125 hey, send your portfolio to them. you seen hurt

[@4ofFive]

The Red 8K is still $14,000 more expensive, with less built-in software. WHAT!?!? Edit: and less hardware* (thanks starshipeleven for pointing it out)

[@whitenoiserevived6575]

Yeah I don't even know how red get away with there pricing

[@gavin2067]

@@whitenoiserevived6575 same way Apple does it

[@whitenoiserevived6575]

@@iamaduckquack marketing maybe I do know is very well known throughout even people who arent interested in filming know them

[@thimoj7799]

RED 8k is a 4 year old body btw, if RED could actually release a new body every year they might be able to offer better prices and competition to blackmagic.

[@KiraSlith]

RED is the Apple of Cinematography, of course it's more expensive by far and you still aren't getting anything even close to it's value in return.

[@prasannakumar5567]

“Hopefully...you have a spare at home” 0:57 Dang it, that’s a deal breaker. I’d have bought that 12k camera if I had a spare power cable at home.

[@IAmNumber4000]

I will always love Blackmagic because they released Davinci Resolve for free. Excellent video editor.

[@o.l4890]

Davinci resolve is older than blackmagic ,Davinci existed in film days

[@breakfast-burrito]

Looking at the BM footage, I can really see a dramatic change in color science. The highlight rolloff compared to the main camera is much more smooth. Skin tones are also incredibly good, like ARRI good. I'm impressed by that little guy.

[@wuzihuzi]

"For any of you who haven't bought a modular cine camera" Like all of us?

[@SyntheticFuture]

Right? xD

[@nanoprehistoric]

exactly what i was going to comment lol

[@GeraltOfRivia69]

I have 3 modular cine cameras, he was talking about me not you peasant people

[@aromass3104]

What a flex haha

[@vieavona318]

@@Muhluri if you don’t want to zoom

[@doctorlovera]

Blackmagic: 12K Imagine the possibilities KZbin: Editors can zoom in 3x to Linus' beard in postproduction and still be in 4K Blackmagic: 8K at 120 fps, Imagine the possibilities KZbin: Slow mo of Linus dropping expensive gear. Blackmagic: You know what... nevermind KZbin: LTTstore.com

[@doctorlovera]

Now seriously... I watch LTT Shortcircuit, superfun and techlinked in 1080p and the content is great. I still dont get the 12k upgrade but i'll keep watching

[@sylvestermcgovern]

@@doctorlovera Eventually you’ll start watching in 4K, then 8K.

[@topup246]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/enq2o2Oof8aqjpo

[@matthewvuong6655]

Brandon - "judge the video quality compared what you're used to seeing" Me watching this on a 1080p monitor...

[@nikitakatashinskiy2428]

Laughs in 1024x768

[@TheFrogmanTV]

Recording in higher resolution can have sharpness benefits even when viewed at lower resolutions. If you film something at 1080p and at 4K, and you downscale the 4K to 1080p, it will look more detailed. It can be hard to see depending on the size of your screen and viewing distance. But that's why they film at 8 or 12K. You get the best pixels at every resolution.

[@topup246]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/enq2o2Oof8aqjpo

[@overdev1993]

@@TheFrogmanTV also the lower quality Options on KZbin will get a much better quality if you Upload in s high Resolution Like 4k

[@offbeattrance]

Me in a semi HD (768p) monitor :|

[@IAmNumber4000]

My god. 6 12K cameras. After filling up the Petabyte Project server. The LTT team is going to need to buy a whole data center from Amazon, Jesus.

[@Gepodm]

LTT: Buys 12k camera Also LTT: half of shots arent in perfect focus

[@zipp4everyone263]

And weird skin tones.

[@migneault62]

And sometimes forgets to color grade Tech Linked

[@Veptis]

It's 80MP to be the perfect 8K or 4K camera due to bRAW voodoo downscaling in sensor. Is there a difference between doing in sensor downscaling or doing it from 12K in post(apart from 6:1 instead of 18:1)? Are your lenses sharp enough? Are you switching to Resolve, how does Taran like it? Are you using Resolves Callaboration features? Rolling shutter of 12K Vs 4.6K G2 if you had one....

[@camshand]

Linus said that switching to Resolve is not going to happen in May 👉 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmq5qqaNh62Dmqs Adobe Premiere Pro has native BRAW integration, and Autokroma makes a great plugin for After Effects and Media Encoder which lets you handle the files there too so I'm sure Taran has got it working with the BRAW footage. (granted I haven't tested 12K files, so as Brandon said, there's some issues)

[@Oscar4u69]

@@camshand adobe is shit, not worth all the damn bugs

[@PheonixRise666]

@@Oscar4u69 watch the video. LMG (and many other media organisations) are locked into the Adobe ecosystem due to production (and revenue) that would be lost when re skilling.

[@thanatopsis112]

so from being in the film industry at the start of the transition to digital here are some dated but hopefully worthwhile perspectives. Panavision who is one of the main makers of film cameras back at the start of the digital transition took a film scanner and their cleanest test film and found that under ideal situations film could produce the equivalent of 10k vertical lines of resolution at 35mm. This was obviously done with their best lenses and best camera as an attempt at discrediting the early digital cameras that were only doing 2K or 1080p. Along with this a lot of action films, directors stuck with film because they could blow up the image and crop in without losing as much detail. the reality at the time was that film projection for the end-user was somewhere around Standard definition to 720p equivalent due to the nature of film reproduction and projector maintenance. With those considerations, a digital 12k camera means that you can shoot at the image quality equivalent of 35mm on its best day blow it up and manipulate it more than 35mm due to advances in digital tech from 2006-2009. with those two advantages alone it makes 12k worth it and the lens have been and will continue to be sharp enough.

[@markjob6354]

@@PheonixRise666 Uhhhh, nope. 95 % of everything you see in the Cinema and on cable and netflix is posted on Avid Media Composer, effect processing is done on Adobe After Effects and colour graded on Davinci Resolve. Period. MC is the top cutter of them all.

[@pranaygohel4630]

DaVinci resolve is honestly such a great piece of software to go along with Blackmagic’s equipment. I feel like Blackmagic is AMD and Red is Intel lol

[@jambononi]

Totally agree, Blackmagic has always been a disruptor in the market, but always had too many quirks and bugs to be taken seriously, but now with the 12k and their pocket cameras, they have a firm hold on the lower end cinema/commercial market. But I will say, if they don't have some kind of useable auto focus in the next two years, I think they might become irrelevant pretty fast. Even the RED Komodo will have useable auto focus, and the Sony/Canon options are only 1k more with more practical features. I think very soon it will be a standard, and I think they need to start developing it asap, because they have already proved an Arri like image is possible for $1200-4000, so other companies will catch up but with auto focus on top of that.

[@arrowdynamlc]

Ironic cause, well, AMD's color is red

[@waiitwhaat]

That is a great analogy. Every Intel needs its AMD, so the consumers don't starve to death for getting an average-performing device.

[@pranaygohel4630]

@@jambononi Well said

[@Powerman293]

I think Adobe Premiere is the most apt comparison to Intel for BMD than RED.

[@Linealo]

Are you guys now also switching to Resolve for bRAW full support or is this going to be a plugin-patched premier deal? Are we also going to see a water cooled version of this?

[@katech6020]

They said earlier if they end up replacing all their cameras with blackmagic cameras, they will switch to resolve

[@dannyvanderheide6098]

Tbf as someone who did a bit of video editing in multiple different programs. Resolve is pretty good

[@DavenneChua]

Waiting for watercooled version...

[@sopcannon]

@@DavenneChua or LN2

[@Arbiter099]

@@katech6020 and save big time on Adobe costs long term if they can replace the whole CC

[@blomproductions]

LTT: Are we CRAZY for buying 6 of these!? Me: No, its LTT we are talking about

[@eino1048]

what is the joke here i cannot find it

[@blomproductions]

@@eino1048 LTT IS THE ONLY ONES THAT WHULD BE CRAZY ENUTH DO DO THAT

[@eino1048]

@@blomproductions no

[@blomproductions]

@@eino1048 Then you are the joke 😁

[@Ordlnary_Gamer]

Eino This is ltts Sister channel

[@WarriorsPhoto]

No one needs 12k video. No one needs 6 or 8K video. But it's great to have and I hope you all get a lot of use from these cameras. Good unboxing and I enjoyed this one, thank you.

[@AibohphobiAband]

“It definitely feels 12k” Nerve endings firing in super high resolution

[@cosmicrider5898]

Sounds painful

[@ab2tract]

once again getting hardware before its actually useful...i cant wait for the elon musk 24k retina upgrade! ive already been testing my buy now bot farm so i can get one.

[@s0uls4nd]

@@ab2tract niceeee

[@archfxt3619]

@@ab2tract because thats what they do ? , I mean if youre a big channel like LTT , im sure its a guarantee

[@topup246]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/enq2o2Oof8aqjpo

[@ianlee6416]

When new zen3 threadripper comes out: Linus: Since we shoot in 12k now, system upgrade time.

[@LINKedup101]

Zen3 threadripper is gonna be fuckin nutty. I wonder if they're gonna find a way to get all 64 cores on a single NUMA node

[@ralphM1114]

Watching this on a 4K HDR display. The Black Magic video footage of Brandon speaking was significantly sharper than the Red footage immediately preceding it. Overall video quality was significantly better to my eye compared to the Red.

[@callmerive]

There was something wrong with the audio. Maybe mic sensitivity/gain changed, but it sounded like it started to pickup a lot more of a hissing noise from somewhere.

[@karanamjeevan]

Idk why I am watching this at 5 AM, when I don't own anything other than a phone as camera.

[@DJMaxY16]

ShortCircuit: Showing 4k, 8k, 12k samples, different framerates etc. Me, watching in 720p: Ah yes, you can really see how good it is...

[@Ducksnuget]

*Buys 6 cameras* “We still need to test to see if we want to keep them” Why don’t you just buy 1-2 and test?

[@SyntheticFuture]

Probably don't want to risk them being out of stock and having to wait when if decide to go for them. Kind of like the RTX30xx launch. Just buy as many as you probably need and if you decide otherwhise you can easily sell them without a loss.

[@malm4640]

He said why before it's cause they will sell out immediately so had buy them all from launch and if he doesn't keep all 6 they sell for more on eBay than what he bought them for when they go out of stock

[@waiitwhaat]

It's always good practice (for you) to buy a variety of items in general (for example, if im buying headphones, ill get one of sony, one of some other company and so on), test them all out yourself to see which one fits you the best and return all of the rest. You get full refund and the best item of your choice.

[@SyntheticFuture]

@@waiitwhaat except they bought 6 the exact same cameras. As stated before: to make sure they could get 6.

[@resentfulsoulofthetoilet589]

Honestly one of the annoying things about black magic is that they NEVER produce enough at the release date and you have to eait for a long time for them to produce some again

[@Linventor]

You're not crazy for buying those cameras. You're crazy for OTHER reasons. Like water-cooling a camera.

[@LINKedup101]

Inb4 they watercool these cameras

[@jacobanderson4057]

They're crazy. LTT films plain videos about tech. No one's watching these videos in 12K let alone in real 4K (at actual 4K bitrates not streaming bitrates) now or in the future. Higher resolution just means longer editing times and more expense towards storage. But in the spirit of having the latest technology it is great.

[@mistahnuke]

@@jacobanderson4057 do you even know what you're saying? higher resolution gives a lot of benefits for post, you can zoom in focus on a specific object in the frame without losing image details you can crop out stuff and just generally just do a lot of editing while retaining all the image details

[@DeltaNrOne]

I can picture this talk with linus “Hey linus i heared about this great new camera” “Linus runs as fast as he can” afraid of an other 300k usd in red accessories and cameras When brandon screams “ITS ONLY 10k!” Then months of begging to get 6 lol

[@JeffBourke]

0:31 Wow! they got solid foam! This is amazing.

[@hr1meg]

Jeff Bourke LOL. Your comment nailed it exactly! I know what you mean. Sadly most wont.

[@jasrenfro9856]

i have a camera i bought from the recycling center in hopes i could take great pics of my family but its not great and here i am watching a video about 12mp camera.... lol yes im one of the poors but man i love the enthusiasm the LTT team has and thats all i need in 2020. enthusiasm and authenticity about tech is what i love ... thankyou LTT team for helping me through 2020. i gaming pc came from the recycling center too lol it wasn't able to make a video for that why i need the free pc contest but these videos is all i need. thank you 1000%

[@DundeeZhang]

I bet Linus's wallet has a section just for Brandan

[@frapuz]

Alex has a warehouse full of industrial equipment and still, Brandon manages to be the most expensive employee ;D

[@jo_magpie]

"hopefully you have a spare at home". Like anyone is buying this for home use.

[@nathanb011]

I mean, it's a much more reasonable price than the RED

[@deminybs]

I think casting couch uses them stationary 😂

[@terbo2000]

Well I was going to get it for my Tiktoks but they don't offer direct uploading from the camera. Totally unusable.

[@karlleego2513]

@@deminybs hahahahahhaha and then the video is uploaded in 720p and sometimes it's noisy as hell

[@7DegreesOfFreedom]

Short answer: Yes Long answer: Yeeeeeeeeessssssss

[@porcubot]

... how are you typing with boxing gloves on?

[@7DegreesOfFreedom]

... Pardon?

[@topup246]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/enq2o2Oof8aqjpo

[@132nd.professor3]

1:37 is everyone going to ignore him asking whether we need 12,000 PIXELS in a camera?

[@playlets6465]

yes i noticed it too, it should be it has 12000 columns

[@coryandrum]

@@playlets6465 I think he was reading the script and knows the resolution is insane. 12,000 pixels is nothing compared to 10ish 8k screens it would take to see the image in 12k resolution.

[@benedykt123313]

@@coryandrum Lol 10ish 8k screens to display a 12k picture? You might want to redo that math.

[@coryandrum]

@@benedykt123313 oh, I used 4k lol. I guess Brandon is not the only one that confues the columns with pixels. Price-wise I think the 10 4k's would be cheaper than 2.5 8k's sadly

[@sirmurford2737]

@@coryandrum Even if he was just reading the script, he's listed as the writer for the video.

[@anonymosphilos8912]

Crazy is, that you never make videos about your microphones, which are similarly important, but often forgotten.

[@eformance]

Brandon: Hey Linus, we can buy 6 cameras for half the price of that RED we bought, and we don't have to pay RED prices for media! Linus: Where's my checkbook?

[@chadbizeau5997]

Wouldn't that be Yvonne since she is the chief financial officer LOL...

[@topup246]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/enq2o2Oof8aqjpo

[@silan2335]

But the real question: Can you use it as a 12k-Webcam? Then you wouldnt even need to choose one of the batteries..

[@MarcRitzMD]

You can't. There is no way to interface it. If it could output the 12K signal over HDMI, you could maximally do 10K with display stream compression. That is the hdmi 2.1 spec. But even then, there aren't any capture cards that support 2.1 or anything over 4K.

[@jonaslinter]

@@MarcRitzMD Of course you can. You need a Pcie Card that has an Sdi Port. Like one of Blackmagics Decklink Capture Cards. Cameras of this Caliber use Sdi as a Display Output

[@MarcRitzMD]

@@jonaslinter oh, you're right

[@danieljensen2626]

I mean yeah probably, but you can't stream that kind of data rate over any existing service, so you're just going to be downsampling the hell out of it anyway.

[@Leo9ine]

@@MarcRitzMD Someone in KZbin comments admitting someone else was right and they were wrong? This must be the wrong dimension.

[@ivandrol4733]

MKBHD, UAC and TLD: so you guys left the team...

[@MrTheSmoon]

i am willing to bet that all of them will try these cameras too at least to review

[@elflames1280]

I would love to see a updated workflow video, implementation to final delivery and all the troubling shooting LMG had to on the way with using these camera's. Also any hardware upgrades that were needed in the pipeline. Great vid as always Brandon.

[@krigarb]

This is first and foremost a foam review channel

[@the_prado]

Oh man, looking forward to Potato Jet review, because of course he’s getting one

[@omarcavazos92]

I see you are a man of culture as well

[@topup246]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/enq2o2Oof8aqjpo

[@tylerd7801]

I've been so excited for this since linus announced it on wan show

[@danieltroger]

Same! I hope they switch to them

[@leumasgh]

is it just me or the color of this video seems a bit off compared to the other LMG videos

[@yskuzi]

Yea

[@iloveanime6441]

I was scrolling for 10 min to see a comment about the colour I hate the new KZbin comment format

[@Supperconductor]

I'm guessing they haven't fleshed out their final work-flow. Grading is not trivial with cinema cameras.

[@petarmiladinovic4126]

check out from 2:15 next 5 or 6 seconds, focus on the camera lost and regained few times.... Focus should be locked on the item you are filming, just my noob opinion. 8k, 12k cams really are awesome to have but a semi decent cam with someone who actually knows what he is doing is worth much more. I know this is not a movie or a BBC documentary, but come on, these are the basics. And yeah, I also noticed the color of the videos all over the place.

[@thimoj7799]

@@petarmiladinovic4126 not sure if you ever shot semi live but that's what ltt does for these quick videos. they are quick cuts of a talking head shot on 2 and sometimes 3 cameras. the editor had to make a cut there but could've tried better to hide the fact that the camera had to be refocused. I don't blame the camera operator because pulling focus on a 12k camera with a cine lens (probably the 50-100 sigma cine zoom) is damn difficult. color is probably off because the colors on Blackmagic handle waaaay different than on RED.

[@ebridgewater]

Finally - regular 8K videos incoming!

[@samuell.siskind]

If Apple made a camera, they'd only put a single lightning port on it, and call it revolutionary.

[@undefinednan7096]

They do -- it's called the iPhone :D

[@lordv1le859]

Thunderbolt, come on

[@TheKratoKiller]

@@lordv1le859 thunderbolt, lightening. Very very frightening

[@finnmayer8722]

Background information: They bought 6 of these so they have backup if Linus trops a few of them.

[@KyleKehrwald]

Budget for camera gear: $$,$$$ Budget for set design: ¢

[@Xenoray1]

IKEA

[@tigran914]

They literally built an entire living room and kitchen. I doubt it's cheap

[@nextlifeonearth]

Linus once said there's a sweet spot in production quality at a very low price. A low cost set can be better than a slightly higher cost one in quality, you need a lot more cash to match or exceed the low cost production. (sunlight > cheap set lighting, for instance) Also: You don't need a Ridley Scott set for tech videos.

[@yskuzi]

I believe they spend alot to have the room setup and make them feel lived in. And they are renovating right now

[@PsyDei]

You CAN build an awesome set for cheap, you just need a better art director and designer.

[@Eric-lk9ig]

In my opinion, watching in 4k on a native 4k monitor, the ursa footage looks like the darks are slightly too dark, almost washed out, compared to the normal short circuit content. However, the audio sounds very slightly better than the normal audio set up, which is quite surprising.

[@hmoham]

I thought I was the only one, it felt like the video lacked the finer detail their normal camera's pick up, as you say almost washed out.

[@jambononi]

I don't want to call anyone out, but this hasn't been graded that well. Even the example shots outside were, let's just say, not very good and probably rushed. Half the video was out of focus as well. I think give them a bit of time. There's no doubt the RED is technically has a better look with less work, but $24,000 plus all the scammy overpriced accessories, I think they will improve their workflow and get it to look good. It is a process changing to a new camera setup.

[@Eric-lk9ig]

@@jambononi Oh I agree and I strongly hope that there is room for improvement on their end/camera settings etc. However, for less than half the cost, it seems worth it especially given that they probably have their RED cameras perfectly adjusted after 3+ years of usage, whereas they just received these. Hopefully, some 4k60 uploads will make it our way to tell in the future.

[@Carrot_Handler]

I haven't used this camera but I have used the Arri Alexa Mini and LF for several projects... and all I can say is you guys made the wrong choice, of course it costs more BUT skin tones and DR/noise is simple put stunning and unbeatable. That said I use a mobile phone and a Fujifilm X100T in my personal life for photography and I am completely content so I guess everything has a use case and you guys probably would be just fine with a Sony A9/A7 camera let alone a URSA. Also anyone saying its overkill, it sure is NOT overkill on my 65" OLED its very much appreciated.

[@wavelogic8471]

8K or better is critical for VFX shots, specially greenscreen shots! I can also see use for it on commercial display booths type stuff, theme parks and imax theater.

[@inventorllama0321]

So that's why you couldn't get the Spot robot

[@vizual3590]

"It doesn't come with a power cable. So hopefully you have a spare at home" did you expect us to buy one of these?

[@nofilterneito]

They meant a spare power cable but yeah LOL

[@Adroman100]

They also said they are going to use batteries instead of the wall power.

[@lordv1le859]

It's just a standard pin I have a few at home

[@LeutnantComanderData]

I’m actually looking for a cine cam for my company haha ... and yes, we’re looking at 2 or 3 blackmagics, the canon c300, the red komodo 6k and so on

[@ChrisWilmshurst]

I'd love to know in the full review about it's performance on a more moderate setup like a 16" Macbook Pro in real-life situations.

[@pocketsuke]

So when's the water cooling the 12k camera video coming out?

[@randomgeocacher]

1. Rolling shutter at 12K and 4K comparison. 2. Rolling shutter comparison with some other camera, eg A7S3. Mount the A7S3 on top so you know for sure there isn’t a big differences in how fast you move. 3. If you happen to have a Komodo accessible I wouldn’t mind hearing you ponder your opinion on BMD12K vs Komodo. I know they are completely different cameras, but their still extremely expensive gear (toys) that excel in extremely different areas. 4. Opinion on workflow etc with RED vs BMD. In Premiere and DaVinci.

[@thanhvinhle2893]

Few weeks later on LTT: "we upgraded our server with more storage and top speed network"

[@morgan1168]

Are we CRAZY for buying 6 of these?! ............ Yup, should have used a coupon bought 12

[@CFord256]

I remember them talking about this on a WAN show a while back when they per-ordered them. I believe that the cap for how many you could buy was something like 3. Then Linus got an employee to use his personal account to buy the other 3.

[@Matt_Vanepps]

You mean quepon?

[@mrrooter601]

combine them for 144k

[@danieltroger]

@@mrrooter601 that would be really fucking dope. Then mount them on a helicopter and enjoy the resolution when seeing every thing from above

[@pujanshah736]

@@Matt_Vanepps dammit was about to say that you dirty dog

[@2nd-place]

Looking forward to recreating all of your fingerprints from these 12K videos.

[@SunnyAustria]

Audio & Video is awesome. Not so harsh like the red cams. Love it!

[@rhodridavies9426]

I'd say Andy had some fun with his new toy! Also, the audio didn't sound perceptibly different to my ears when you switched to the onboard audio of the black magic, so I'd say that's a win!

[@catdrawsfish]

02:55 "I have never seen a higher resolution sensor" - S20 ultra weeping in the background

[@Darkanent]

Welp, after the recent announcement, I think you have your answer...

[@_misterkenta1608]

You guys should definitely live stream with all 6 of them using ATEM switchers!!! :)

[@davidgriffin79]

6:46 Time for another Petabyte Project.

[@SPIKEASAURUS]

ohhh i like that

[@why_though]

When you have so many that unboxing isn't an event but a chore.

[@isaiah9322]

does higher resolution mean anything on youtube considering the amount of compression that takes place when uploading?

[@gavin2067]

Its more for editors to zoom in without losing quality and stuff like that. You may get a little more bitrate outof a higher resolution camera on KZbin but I doubt it.

[@jambononi]

Technically the better the resolution, the less noticeable compression will be. If you upload in 1080p it will be degraded by a greater percentage, so it's more noticeable. So 12k, at a high bit rate, should look significantly better once compressed. But even Blackmagic admits, they didn't make it to be 12k, they developed a new sensor for better RGB capturing and figured out a much higher resolution could achieve that. So 12k is a symptom of better colour rendition. And is presumably easier to achieve than what Arri do, with only 2k footage, but perfect balance of colour, dynamic range... everything except for resolution. My guess is higher res is a brute force way of improving everything else.

[@archfxt3619]

Yeah

[@atcpadi1]

I like your words magic fancy camera man. I don't know what you're talking about when you're pointing out all that I/I but I could tell YOU know what you're talking about and that gives me confidence.

[@videoguy3110]

Not sure what you shot this unboxing on, but it was a huge upgrade to the image when you switched to the Ursa 12k. This was more revealing than the "test" footage.

[@Ryu_Makkuro]

Brandon: ...In less than 5 pounds... Camera costs 5995 USD Me: Pound sure went up in value it seems.

[@Hoch134]

Camera costs 9995 USD actually (inflation)

[@paulgray1318]

Why we need 6: 1) Too film 2) For Linus to drop 3) Too film 4) For Linus to over-clock 5) Too film 6) For Linus to water cool So obvious :)

[@qops1981]

Y’all have the camera, gear, writers, and on screen talent. Ever think of making feature-length content? I would watch an LMG movie.

[@lordv1le859]

What about? They can barely make scrapyard wars.

[@prayforpeace2204]

You will be happy. I moved from RED to UMP last year and was much happier. ND, better audio, great color science...etc but at the end of the day, it just feels better lugging around a $8k camera than a $40k camera. Things break eventually.

[@dyuman3983]

Yo team LTT could we please push brands to include eco-friendly product packaging? You guys are awesome people running a brilliant platform that I've been following for years. The community could really bring in some change here. Just consider it guys, that's all I'm asking. :)

[@laserflyer]

"I have never seen a higher resolution sensor," says Brandon. The man who reviewed a GFX 100. A camera with 25% higher sensor resolution.

[@Goose619]

Reviewed should be used lightly. This guy is a complete weeny.

[@laserflyer]

@@Goose619 One can review with varying degrees of quality. I tend to like Brandon's "feel for the device + impressions of its handling" approach. As a stills Canon shooter I highly doubt I'll use the equipment he usually reviews but it's light and mostly entertainment.

[@5at5una]

at what price point? compared to this?

[@laserflyer]

@@5at5una at $9,999.99, a Fujifilm GFX 100 with a 102-megapixel sensor costs $4.89 more than a Blackmagic URSA Mini Pro 12k. granted, these are extremely different devices with entirely different use cases. Their only real overlap is a high resolution sensor and pretty much every other feature of these cameras is different, including the size of that high res sensor.

[@Hulluboju]

@@laserflyer Honestly brandon just forgot the GFX100. It's not comparable in any way, yes, and also the pixel density of the ursa is so far beyond the fuji. But in the end it is the highest res brandon has seen and he just forgot it at the time of making this video

[@braddl9442]

"are we crazy" Was there a need to add anything else beyond this.

[@leetmelvic696]

"In such an affordable camera" - 10.000$ Well, not for me I guess

[@autarchprinceps]

I think people need to understand, that certain things designed for professional use cases are measured differently. A private person could or would not pay for it perhaps, but a professional in the real sense of the word would. Nobody is going to bat an eye at paying billions for an oil rig or a village sized coal digger. Many servers will cost 5 digits, some 6. You can easily pay more than a million for a mainframe. The first half way recent supercomputer I heard from in the top 500 and could find a price for, cost more than 100 million $. That doesn't make it a rip off. You cannot get the same for consumer amount of money, and it doesn't have to be better by only the thing private people measure their devices by. A computer with ECC, transactional memory, or fully hot swappable memory and cpus or certifications for use in medical equiment, etc. will cost more, but might not computationally outperform a recent gaming or high end desktop chip.

[@Tehkezah]

@@autarchprinceps And people need to understand that affordable means different things to different people. And additionally they literally make money with cameras. It's like saying why is a racecar so expensive, they could just use a normal car.

[@DanielVegter]

Where did these 6 camera's go

[@shudidesai]

Like the new hair Brandon! Great unboxing, as always my friend.

[@Tsino69]

"Are we crazy?" You spelled rich wrong. 😂

[@Biker_Gremling]

Must be that nVidia 8k Gaming video money

[@calsimeth1588]

They are not necessarily rich they are just a business. Employee salaries probably cost them more than half a million dollars a year.

[@TheBasti05]

@@calsimeth1588 For real, I hate these comments. Like what do these people think a 30 employee company does all day? Finance Linuses pivate jet?

[@J.R.WilliamsFilmMaker]

Years and years of being a RED fanboy.....I think I'm officially going to be switching to Black Magic lol

[@ArthurD]

Nah, let's go balls to the wall: Buy NEW Arri camera. With Arri lenses. And anamorphic lenses too.

[@danieltroger]

dude arri is even more overpriced than red

[@thorwaldjohanson2526]

Arri is for multi million dollar cinema productions, where time lost due to technical issues, is far more expensive. They are expensive, but rightly so.

[@rawchickennugget767]

@@thorwaldjohanson2526 And for Mark Zuccerberg

[@hoixthegreat8359]

@@thorwaldjohanson2526 You missed the key thing - Arri's colour science is unmatched.

[@Goose619]

Yeah no shit. Get an Arri. Stop messing around with this crap

[@VeselinMarkovic]

So... You made a 10:05 video about a... professional camera that barely anyone outside the movie industry, you guys included... needs? Good job, well done. 👍

[@bits2646]

Looks like great allrounder... Can't wait to see the results

[@techtt6213]

I'm sure everyone needs 12000 pixels in a camera. Rather small otherwise

[@dennispremoli7950]

ehm... 12k isn't 12000 pixels it's 12288 x 6480 for a total of 79,626,240 pixels

[@GayLitesFTW]

@@dennispremoli7950 he's referring to the width of the image. Just like Brandon did. He said 12,000 pixels early in the video.