Are we getting a Classic Shadow?!

[@GameApologist]

I probably should have made this before Keanu showed up. Oh well! Have fun!

[@ChannelAboutYou]

I’ll buy a 50$ super thanks if that happens but just know imo classic shadow is a unlike chance due to him being the same age and it was stated in IDW aswell.

[@nazomius7033]

Are you joking? Shadow was from SA2, not the classic games. Make better VIDEOS FFS

[@GameApologist]

@@nazomius7033make better comments, you angry little weirdo

[@SNOCKLESYT]

​@@GameApologistnah he has a point

[@LateefA519]

Never let bro cook again

[@Toastfreak]

The other character will just be a modern-looking Shadow with a colourful propeller cap to show it's a younger version of the character.

[@pixellord2370]

And an exaggerated green lollipop that looks like a Chaos Emerald.

[@davidthecommenter]

don't forget the red and white striped shirt and suspender shorts

[@some_body_else3636]

this comment and it's replies are just golden

[@ryananthony2869]

The Biolizard was made to be the Ultimate Life form long before Shadow was made,so technically, we already have a Classic Shadow.

[@GameApologist]

@@ryananthony2869 that’d be a hilarious second playable character tho

[@cat-cam-87]

that thing can't even move. it would be a slowrun.

[@ChrisWilliams-ur7fn]

​@@cat-cam-87That thing can't even _BREATHE_ without the life support.. haha.. imagine that as a gameplay

[@cat-cam-87]

@@ChrisWilliams-ur7fn oh, imagine the sounds of it's body sliding. it trying to go through a loop-de-loop. imagine it all. it's ridiculous.

[@Sonic-q6i]

​@@GameApologist two things 1 movie shadow definitely isn't a pre existing creature before meeting Gerald they sonic an alien and shadow in the games is also a alien cough 😷 black Doom. And 2 you kinda scard me with the knuckles video with that masscout clip.😒

[@hattoripool1533]

Considering that the Classic designs are supposed to be younger versions of the characters In Universe shouldn’t a Classic universe Shadow have his Modern Design?

[@nexusetmiaouss]

Yes. Or biolizard 😂

[@yonaguy6978]

Not even in universe, its just an artstyle change otherwise Tails and Cream would not be having the colored irises. In generations don't think about it, was supposed to be a fun one-off

[@Butwhythough881]

Pretty much. It’s the same Shadow since we know for sure he didn’t age physically when in cryo-sleep for 50 years

[@nexusetmiaouss]

@@yonaguy6978 now yeah its two different timeline but for a long time it was past and present

[@grawman67]

​@@nexusetmiaoussIt still is past and present until Classic Sonic in Generations goes back. That Sonic then goes through Mania and Forces where the original Classic Sonic didn't go through them until he was older as Modern Sonic (with Forces)

[@Bionickpunk]

What if the mystery character is Silver. Dude is constantly involved with time travel stories, and Generations would be the time to include him due to all the time shenanigans.

[@GameApologist]

Would be fun to play him again for sure!

[@SonicAndGun]

​@@GameApologist Silver hasn't got that much attention so I agree

[@smolbrendan5978]

finally. sonic '24

[@ShadowNemesis575]

​@freàk-i2g with some of the limited time promo stuff sega released recently people are speculating that we'll be getting a "year of Silver".

[@redjirachi1]

Silver and Shadow do have a bond of sorts

[@sixmillionisimpossible]

It'd be hilarious to find out SA2 Shadow is slightly shorter then modern Shadow and THAT'S the classic shadow. So basically slightly different personalities of the same person. Maybe they could get one of Shadow's other long-time VA's to do the "other" Shadow. Maybe David Humphrey so we could have Kirk and David in the same game. That mural isn't depicting Sonic with wings lmao. That's just his quills. Secondly this is a massive stretch since the mural CLEARLY depicts the hedgehog as blue.

[@nicholassgobero]

Classic Shadow is Just Shadow with a lower polygon count

[@logytrail]

It also depicts the Death Egg Robot (or whatever that’s supposed to be) as blue

[@enkayrome]

my thoughts: it’s goddamn maria and she gonna get pumped

[@anthonygarland8839]

If she does it more likely to be an stealth based gameplay

[@ccelite3782]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@Goobywoobygoo]

You have to do a qte to avoid getting shot.

[@shuckleknuckles3581]

Matrix maria fr

[@2bruhiscool]

all the other kids with them pumped up kicks

[@legendarycryptid2629]

Black Doom is back to redie his Black Death, in an adventure set to Eclipse the Shadow of the 2005 game... also Mephiles and the Metal Overlord, our favorite "dumb metal lizard thing" are back, too. So excited!

[@lasercraft32]

IMAGINE if the second playable character was secretly Mephiles. That would blow everyone's minds if they teamed up! XD

[@chillihog1543]

Mephiles is confirmed to be a boss fight, how n why would they team up?

[@lasercraft32]

@@chillihog1543 After the boss fight he joins you, duh. That's why nobody would expect it! (that and the fact that he's _Mephiles)_ In case you couldn't tell, I was joking. I highly doubt they'll make Mephiles a playable character.

[@chillihog1543]

@@lasercraft32 Doubt the 4th character rumor is a thing, otherwise we would have been shown the mystery character by now after summer n story trailer tbr. Maybe when Dark Beginnings is over, that’s when Sonic Team reveal the playable character but that’s really hopefully thinking

[@Okamikurainya]

I'm hoping for "Lock-on" content, giving the original Sonic Generations zones an Act3 for Shadow. I think it's too cool to happen, but I can dream.

[@Artista_Frustrado]

i don't think so, otherwise they wouldn't have made Shadow Generations be it's own game (don't get me wrong i would love to use Shadow with his new Alien powers in the regular Sonic Generations levels)

[@crimsonrayquaza46]

Honestly I would settle for like a Forces thing where we can play as Shadow in at least Modern Sonic Levels in base Generations

[@FerinitheBloodHusky]

itd be cool even if it was just the modern sonic stages with slight object placement differences

[@FireWizzrobe]

@@Artista_Frustrado well there'll always be the mods innit

[@aperson8604]

Shadow seeing Sonic in Shadow generations: "That blue hedgehog again, of all places..."

[@HoneyTaffy-rz2es]

Bro predicted the future 💀

[@Cooled_animates]

I don't think they'll make a 'classic shadow' the second playable character. But I think it would be funny if the second character was Sir Lancelot from Sonic and the black night, and they'd have no reason to put him in or for why he's there, but he just is.

[@Goose-wj9wx]

"I'm Sir Lancelot, I go where ever I want." -Sir Lancelot, probably.

[@greensoda123]

Imagine how crazy it would be if you get to play as Mephiles or Black Doom once you beat the game. Not gonna happen but would be rad.

[@MattAnd]

I know you were joking, but I kinda want a playable Maria now. If I remember, she was a companion for one of the Shadow the Hedgehog levels, so it could happen!

[@derekstryder2281]

Two levels actually, both of which were flashbacks for both dark and hero.

[@AstroTom]

Mephiles, Black Doom, Metal Overlord and Emerl are some of my favourite Sonic characters so to see SEGA go "SURPRISE! They're all back!" feels like a dream come true

[@nonymouswisp8176]

Who did they eat?!?!?!

[@thechickenboyshow7229]

They did WHAT?!

[@AstroTom]

​​@@thechickenboyshow7229Damn, I only just noticed 😂

[@mau2172]

Fun idea i guess but like. What would that add to shadow's character? He's already all about his past. Adding a second layer of past to him would be kind of redundant. Especially considering that much of shadow's themes are intrinsically linked to the fact that he never got to live a normal life on earth. His confined, artificial, space colony life is a deliberate contrast against sonic's connection with nature and adventure. That is the backstory that informs shadow as a character. It's not just lore for the sake of lore.

[@DeeJamari]

Even if Gerald being inspired by the mural in Hidden Palace was a fan theory, I wish they’d just RUN with it. It only makes sense! Hopefully the do confirm it!

[@DilHark]

I'm pretty sure it's confirmed in the Gerald Robotnik's journal they give with preorders. In the picture they showed for the preorder ad, you can see Angel Island and in the full parody ad they showed at Sonic central, they talk about "discovering ancient ruins"

[@NightFuryLover31]

I can’t believe the joke line from the Twitter Takeover a few years ago about Doom’s Eye being alive is now canon! I have to admit, this game is looking to be quite promising. Maybe Classic Shadow was who he was before being infused with Black Doom’s blood. But that does kind of sound similar Surge and Kit’s origins. I still want the mystery character to be Silver. It can work since he somehow got brought into the White Space. Then again, his gameplay is very different from most of the cast. I love how you used Shadow’s cringe face at “one of the greatest embarrassments.”

[@ZillaYT.]

Honestly it would be kind of cool if it was some sort of classic shadow going through some training on the ark. Kind of like the crash bandicoot 4 flashback tapes.

[@anthonyoliver418]

The second character is clearly Maria who is brought back to be a permanent character in the Sonic series, clearly it makes the most sense.

[@HedgehogY2K]

Re-release means DX11 for multicore performance. If you recall Generations was one of the many DX9 games of the day.

[@dedenneleader_official3305]

Call me crazy, but it’s going to be Silver. Sonic, Shadow, and Silver are the 3 main Hedgehog characters of the series, and with Shadow not really HAVING a “classic” design, I can see Sega having the other character be Silver with hopefully his own campaign akin to Shadow’s

[@ahsoka_polo]

Isn't Shadow, Silver's mentor?

[@dedenneleader_official3305]

@@ahsoka_polo I’m not sure. I don’t really follow on the Sonic lore lol. Either way I don’t think that would cancel out Silver’s chances of being in the game as DLC

[@nicholassgobero]

​@@ahsoka_polono? Where did you get that?

[@ahsoka_polo]

@nicholassgobero was watching a vid of a guy talking about their character dynamics of sorts. He could've made it up tho

[@gramergames]

There is no way the secret character will be Silver

[@mrstickmantas]

If they just said "generations caused a timeline split after sonic 3" and didn't over complicate things in forces and superstars we'd probably have one by now tbh

[@mrstickmantas]

@@Captoad one game says time travel, one game says other dimension and it just kinda got messy, plus being stuck with forces for 5 years did make it more annoying and honestly I got no clue whats go anymore

[@mrstickmantas]

@@Captoad alright

[@CptJistuce]

OR they could wildly overcomplicate things with a huge wall of lore about the phantom ruby and the effect Generations and Mania had on the multiverse.

[@mrstickmantas]

@@CptJistuce pretty much yeah

[@arieson7715]

I'm almost 100% positive that this Shadow in Generations is a post-frontiers era Shadow. His adventure though is in a similar time void that Sonic Generations Sonic was in meaning technically Shadow Gens takes place at the same time as Sonic.

[@dominator_virus427]

I personally dislike this idea. Shadow was not around during the classic games. He made his debut in SA2 battle as an antagonist, kicking off the modern series. To me, a classic shadow would not only make little to no sense considering how he was created, but also wouldn’t be too groundbreaking. I doubt shadow was much different when he was younger. And, what did he even do back then? Talk to Maria? Classic sonic has actual lore like fighting metal sonic in Sonic cd, and much more. Classic shadow would just bring more questions than answers. Besides, one shadow is plenty on his own. He doesn’t need a little buddy.

[@popuied6688]

So it's a Surge and Kit type of thing... I wouldn't hate that honestly.

[@tpbandit8669]

I believe Shadow has gotten to Chaos Island when in a fight with a Death Egg Robot and that’s the same robot you fight on the island

[@thedoglovinggamer5825]

The second character is either going to be Emerl or Gemerl. I'm calling it.

[@anoriginalusername1088]

Here's my take...we never see Omega in Sonic Generations, maybe it's him? Probably not but could you imagine. We can't talk about Shadow games without mentioning that time he shot everyone...so here's a character you can use to shoot everyone.

[@ibexis]

Personally, I think Shadow Generations's mystery character will be Emerl

[@jasonjimerson7046]

They are trying so hard to make "Edgey the Hedgey" into another Venom-like anti-hero with all these new forms... But I am not complaining. Shadow's backstory is still mostly an enigma to me, and anything new is an upgrade.

[@glacierwolf2155]

I feel like the mystery character slot could be Emerl. He was shown off in Dark Beginnings, and it'd be unsatisfying for him to only show up there.

[@Your_LocalWizard]

They still haven't bothered to update the website that the extra playable character tease came from, so the jury might still be out on that one

[@YourAverageNerd06]

The mystery spot has to be Rouge, Omega, or Emerl

[@neon_tom_bear7543]

I headcanoned Classic Metal Sonic taking that spot Like imagine Robotnik seeing Shadow traveling through time and sent Metal to capture and take the power from Shadow

[@Hawkcam1996]

I’ve been wondering if we’d ever get a “Classic” Shadow ever since Sonic Generations came out. I think it’d be cool.

[@skrappothemonster1436]

*I am at Aldi.*

[@joancioffi5002]

(*here we go buddy*, *here we go buddy*)

[@Belozoneඞ]

i think if they wanted to add a classic shadow they could maybe state that the time eater could also travel dimensions and maybe pull an alternate dimension type shadow that resembles a classic shadow out of that dimension into the normal dimension (could also maybe help fix that "is classic sonic from the past or a different dimension?") or maybe black doom could be the one changing/pulling "classic shadow" out of a different dimension (or maybe he can already do things like that idk tbh) i feel like that would be the only way they would integrate a classic shadow into the cannon. and if you see this i love your videos btw!

[@oranglordd]

I always thought that we should've gotten Shadow and Metal sonic being his classic counterpart

[@B.Toast10]

New Game Apologist upload!

[@MantledMimi]

So the thing about Chaos Island is you can see the volcano erupting. Which is what happens after sonic completes that pinball “puzzle”. So that means Shadow is sent there during Frontiers.

[@logansharpe9034]

9:01 I know you just mentioned that Chaos Island may take place during a battle, but you can clearly see that the Death Egg Robot is in the same beaten up position like Sonic Frontiers.

[@doswallo]

This was just a nice, fun collection of thoughts and I appreciate you sharing it.

[@Amero2005]

What if "classic shadow" is meant to be Sonic Adventure 2's Shadow?

[@Butwhythough881]

The second playable is 99.9% likely gonna be Movie Shadow. Takashi Lizuka has debunked the possibility of Classic Shadow due to the timeline. And no, Classic and Modern Sonic are no longer separate timelines because of the aftermath of Forces and Mania’s Encore campaign. Classic Shadow, is an impossible thing to do without screwing up Shadow’s origin.

[@anthonygarland8839]

Movie shadow is an skin so it's not that

[@Butwhythough881]

@@anthonygarland8839 Basically in the same way that Shadow in Forces was just a Modern Sonic skin for the Episode Shadow dlc but could then be played as in the main campaign.

[@altreon3608]

i'm holding out for the gizoid to be playable

[@intheneighborhoodtv]

My absolute favorite thing about Sonic Team and Sega right now, is that this could swing either way and it would be amazing and unsurprising because they have been COOKING lately. I genuinely think this mysterious approach works great because they haven’t stopped hammering out bangers as of late.

[@eyzmaster]

loved the entire video, I'd love some time travel shenanigans to tie all this backstory, like a Gerald boss fight in the past near the Echidnas to inspire the painting, etc but 16:00 jumpscared by a cursed Sonicman fanart XD

[@RandomPlushies47]

Really like the idea of shadow having the same backstory of the fleetway sonic. Also I think the playable character is gunna be Memphis

[@michaeldurden4885]

15:42 is the best part of the video

[@Sonic-q6i]

It's Dreamcast shadow I like the idea of classic shadow but he'll need to be in a alternate timeline of the classic games Dreamcast shadow is more likely considering they are pulling and paying tribute to sa2 his debut game.

[@connordoesamazing3009]

I don,t think they take place at the same time because we see sunset city from forces witch happened after generations

[@Kidkinsey]

You said chao and i got hype. We really need a chao garden back

[@Colekole]

Cream as a new playable character would be amazing

[@Twillek1019_]

I am 95% sure that second spot next to shadows is going to be filled by Emrl, but who knows

[@darkreflection9087]

I’m actually excited for Sonic 3 I wasn’t a fan of Sonic until much later my first sonic game is Sonic Frontiers

[@Goose-wj9wx]

NO! THEY ARE TRYING TO GIVE ME LORE AGAIN... I'M JUST AN EDGELORD!" -Shadow the edgehog

[@MrAppleSalad]

In ShTH during one of the flashbacks we see Black Arms-esc pods in the background with dozens of Shadow embryos growing. It's pretty clear that Shadow was grown from scratch on the ARK.

[@greensoda123]

13:28 So basically what your pitching is what if Shadow had a similar origin to Surge and Kit. Because that sounds pretty rad I will say.

[@GameApologist]

Thank you for actually watching to that point of the video

[@porterdz]

If they do make a classic shadow sotryline, I wonder what the potential stories will unfold if shadow ever meets the imposter duo in IDW

[@Zabliss654]

I had a dream last night where the mystery character was revealed to be Boom Shadow and in his reveal trailer Lyric & Double Trouble from Fire & Ice were shown as bosses. If that’s what my typical dreams are like then I want more of it

[@Rishi123456789]

>Are we getting a Classic Shadow?! I hope we get a Classic Shadow. I don't care if a Classic Shadow doesn't make sense lorewise because none of this has to make sense.

[@LC-DDM]

Seeing Sonadow Generations and being reminded of 3DWorld+Bowser's Fury just made me realize something. Expansion Pack-tier DLC is back.

[@BasementDweller_]

I think it would be funny if in the classic Sonic games we get Shadow but they’re just normal looking Shadow.

[@MrJ-u6h]

2nd character will be Marine so we can canonically get the cartoonishly pissed off shadow look in the games

[@PluckyInc]

think my headcanon is that Shadow in SXS Generations is actually Shadow from the present (as alluded to w/Terminalmontage's video. assuming SEGA has direct mandates on rep+speciffic things shown). Battle was placed after Shadow the Hedgehog's game which kinda makes sense. i think Shadow is going to be somewhat of a living paradox where one version of himself was absolutely hunted down by GUN, or his timeline was slightly different. Black Doom has the ability to utilize chaos control (to an extent) as well as telepathy+arguably telekinesis). i think one timeline Black Doom would've just done his thing but Gerald *doesn't* learn of the fact that there are 7 chaos emeralds and instead incubates his DNA inside himself and Maria, before creating Shadow. (maybe Gerald thought he could generate Familial antibodies to Maria's disease?. then when that failed, incubated Maria, then Shadow?) in this original timeline, Shadow does whatever upto around Shadow the Hedgehog where stuff goes off the rails. where all his allies turns on him when Black Doom reveals that he preserved both Gerald and Maria's souls as psycho-conscious simulacrums within himself. Shadow goes full Klingon and eliminates Black Doom, assimilating his form into himself+cultivating some new powers. he becomes aware of the Doom hivemind and discovers the Time Eater; which'd be retconned to be a somewhat-formed psionic death scream of a previous King (think Ant queens), which he breached into blank space. he then tampers with an alternate timeline where he instead mindjacks (or subliminally suggest to) Black Doom that he'd expect the 7 chaos emeralds in 50 years and to use his DNA to create shadow himself. this leads to the timeline where Adventure 2 happens and Shadow presumably dies, only to lead up to Heroes. After Episode 1 of the animation released, my theory. timeline progresses until sometime after Forces or even possibly after Frontiers (if the murder of sonic the hedgehog reference in TM's video was allowed by Sega?), the Time Eater pulls in the present shadow into blank space, to use his own Gerald/Maria to tempt Shadow into finding out who he is, and possibly in the attempt to overwhelm him and steal his body. Shadow having PSTD memories+questioning events occurring similar was actually the Alternate Black Doom/Shadow affecting his mind with the events how he saw it. when Emerl escaped, the speakers mentioned multiple subjects breached containment (Chaos drone clones?): it may not mean much. maybe it was the Alternate Shadow defending himself from GUN as a mild callback to Omega taking down Shadow in a bad future of 06 (when in the original timeline, only a small coalition of soldiers approached Gerald for stuff he worked on, in which he gave them the Gizoid...that he purposely reprogrammed something of a Soul in (based on Maria's, was written in Battle), to dial down its destructive impulses as well as its weapon abilities.). the Alternate Shadow lived past those 50 years alone until the black comet reappeared. Frontiers Retcon ideas: Sonic using the Fake Emerald to use Chaos Control was a lucky shot, since Knuckles had the master emerald on him in shards, coincidentally attracting him like a beacon. the Gizoid would've originally been created as a way to cultivate a biomechanical force to defend against The End's forces on the Starfall Islands, or may have been created as an attempt to stave off species extinction (leaving the Koco inhabiting their charms), the Master Emerald was teleported away with a small clan of Ancients to what'd eventually become Angel Island, they eventually devolved into Chao. the Gizoid becomes an OOPart (out of place artifact), being used in countless wars (usually changing alliegences to whoever has the most power/tech), until Pachamarac stormed the master emerald altar and awakened Chaos. when Tikal sealed away Chaos, it also reset and deactivated the Gizoid, leaving it to sit until Gerald found it. Tikal may have also levitated the island itself as secondry protection. Black Doom gained Sapience, once the previous Doom clan leader was sealed in digital space, becoming The End, since "There always needs to be a Lich King" (or the Someone Has to Do It trope.) i think the endgame/secret character is going to be Shadow Prime surviving+usurping black doom. and leaving canisters of ooze for our Shadow to find. Alternate Shadow either wanted to assimilate, or self-terminate. Our Shadow will reject Alternate Shadow's offering of his version of Gerald & Maria. he'll end the game by saying Sayonara Shadow the Hedgehog.

[@Sp00kyBones]

Here's a bit of a fun detail! During one of the shots of Chaos Island in the trailer, you can see the volcano in the background exploding. In Sonic Frontiers, the volcano only explodes after Sonic has completed the pinball level! This potentially means that Sonic *is* present during Shadows time on the island, just out of view.

[@Snip216]

Imagine if they throw a curve ball and the mysterious 4th character is an anthro biolizard

[@namedone3359]

I really don’t like the idea that Shadow wasn’t created by Gerald, it completely ruins the symbolism of SA2 with real and artificial beings and it also just would hurt Gerald’s character the way you propose it in my opinion Edit: I did like the video though I just really do not think Shadow’s origin needs to be expanded that way! Apologies if comment is rude!

[@AnnCatsanndra]

You joke but look, I am one of the handful of people on this planet who would be absolutely ELATED and OVER THE MOON to see Bubsy get adapted as a Sonic character.

[@trynnicus]

6:20 I think it would make sense they have a race battle to see who's faster since the premise of generations is "the more sonic moves, the more he pulls space and time back together". or at least that's one of tails theory before I stopped playing after crisis city, as I don't want to ruin my experience with the rerelease

[@fromas4487]

The Chaos Island level cannot play before Forces due to the Death egg robot is already on it. You can see it in the Doom ability trailer.

[@comicfan1324]

Personally I wouldn’t be against the idea of a Classic Shadow. I would still like it to be established that he is a test two baby, because the sci-fi fan in me loves that and it makes shadow that little bit more unique compared to the rest of the cast which is typically either an animal character or a robot. However you could totally have a classic version of shadow by either having him from an alternate timeline where he came out of the pod a little unfinished meaning that he would visibly look younger, or just have it be from a completely different universe where things are a little bit different

[@AerinstadasChronicler]

This and Frontiers DLC feels like Sega testing the waters on reception to games or adventures focusing on specific characters that aren't Sonic, again. I think games focused around the side cast with maybe different genres would be super great! A localized 3D exploration game a la the classic Tomb Raider and Uncharted games for Knux would be great!

[@santiagoarrieta2175]

Chaos island, look like that gonna be the starting point of all this, Shadow learning of the island and finding the "Black Doom", and it present a curios scenary, there are records of Eggman for all the island and curiously there are one that talk about Gerald and Maria(and with the last trailer there is a possibility that they gonna appear like claasic Sonic and Tails, and see there records) Plus there is the unresolved detail that we don't know how both Eggman returns to their time. Likely Shadow rescue them simply to avoid causing damage to the timeline as he is from their future. PD: i ever find these particular records odd, they fit the inner narrative of Eggman was going on, but itself was curious to me that they made so deep efasis on Maria and Gerald instead of a simole mention.

[@Femren]

Since Generations deals with time travel, Shadow being in these post-Generations levels could be him being transported into the future. Just a thought on how they might justify that canonically

[@KraziShadowbear]

I'd like to imagine that in an alternate universe, this DID actually happen and Shadow got a backstory before Maria and Black Doom, revolving around Gerald, akin to the story of Surge & Kit (From IDW) and Sonic's origins (in Fleetway), where Shadow was just a normal hedgehog who was used and "improved upon" in a certain way that led to his creation as the Ultimate Life Form and the loss and promise of Maria. Could be cool to explore, but I'm not sure everyone would like it. Especially since Shadow was designed to be for the Modern era, I guess people wouldn't like it to have a little bit of "Classic" in their "Modern". Maybe they think it'll devalue Shadow's backstory or make him seem more "normal/average", like how Steve Rogers took the Super Soldier Serum to become Captain America, rather a uniquely created creation with no connection to Sonic (or anthropomorphic hedgehogs), other than the design and some abilities. To be honest, I'm guessing the character that has yet to be revealed may be either Emerl or Silver. Other than that, I've got no clue...

[@solarammy2255]

Sonadow Generations about to be the game of my life

[@gerhomewright1285]

I was originally guessing Emerl was going to be the 4th character but now you got me thinking otherwise.

[@BDeerhead]

One wishful head cannon I've wondered about, concerns how much time passed between Shadow escaping the Ark, and being captured by GUN. And if during that time, could Shadow have perhaps hooked up with a lady hedgehog 50 years ago, and could he possibly be Sonic's grandfather? It would explain where Sonic got his powers from.

[@sonicthehedgehogfan1108]

Man, October will be my month to indulge and enjoy, as a Dragon Ball fan, DB Daima looks really visually appealing, DB Sparking Zero looks phenomenal, Shadow generations looks really fun, I have Wizard of Legend on steam, and the sequel looks incredible, and I know it’s in December, but Sonic 3 looks like it might be the best in the trilogy Edit: What if the shadow in Shadow Generations is the shadow from where we are now, post Frontiers, so Shadow is aware of all of the events that happened up until now, and thus, that’s why he might recognize Forces and Frontiers locations

[@TheBoneHeadClan]

I'm pretty confident that it's Super Shadow, ala Super Sonic's Golden Question Mark in SA1.

[@CFodd01]

Fingers crossed the final boss has a part to it where you fight in the way frontiers had its bosses, those felt cool. Even if its like 1 phase.

[@Ibalistic_hedge]

The angel island mural doesn't depict shadow as he wasn't even thought of back when sonic 3 came out.

[@K_The_creator]

When shadow kicks his faker in the face in forces that could be how a level in SXSG ends for him in Sunset heights or he sees Sonic fighting his double along the way and then when that comes up in the present he’s there to save him

[@coolj4334]

I feel like it will be Adventure Shadow, back when he still believed that his destiny was to destroy the Earth

[@aaronolson6736]

Would be funny if, on top of inevitably having to give up a life with Maria and Gerald, Shadow finds out he technically has a brother. "Terios" would be an attempt at the Ultimate Lifefrom that (for one reason or another) died after being created, perhaps lacking that Black Arms' blood and thus not having any powers like how Classic Sonic doesn't have boost.

[@lonelywolf5659]

Classic shadow is him rolling around in a pod

[@Crow_Rising]

A quick correction for 5:25 is this: The difference in appearance between Classic Sonic and Modern Sonic in Sonic Generations is purely for our benefit as external players. Tails has a hard time telling the two Sonic's apart and both Sonics even think they're looking in a mirror when looking at each other through glass, revealing to us that although they look different to us they are actually canonically close to identical. They aren't quite exactly identical as there are examples such as Amy being able to tell that Classic Sonic looks a bit younger, but she still doesn't see such a drastic difference as to realize it's Sonic from the past she's talking to and not the same Sonic she's used to.

[@thewatcher9500]

They can do a classic non canon style shadow skin there's nothing wrong with that just acknowledge it's not canon or an alternate iniverse version.

[@dericecooker]

I feel like we are getting a playable Maria character for 15 minutes

[@Andypatino7612]

Imagine beating the game... "You can now play as Luigi"

[@cynthiagabaldondc5501]

I seriously hope they add more to sonic generations too, I have been waiting for 8 years for something new to come out in this game.

[@ineedmorecandycanes7101]

Imagine Classic Shadow is just Shadow but without the chest fur

[@ScorpionTamer]

I think Silver is the best option for that spot in general, it really doesn't make sense that he wouldn't have some form of involvement in this sort of situation, especially since he's a boss fight in the original game. That being said I'm REALLY hoping they bring in Eclipse the Darkling from the Archie comics as the second character. I also think it's weird that they would create a parallel between the two Sonics and Shadow just to then say there won't be a second playable character, cause that's what the second box next to shadow seems to imply, but maybe they just didn't think it through. I don't think it's Black Doom or Maria because we all knew the two of them would be in the game, so it wouldn't be much of a reveal unless they were playable in some capacity. I think it has to be a character not yet revealed if it's not a playable character (though if it's not a playable character, I'm not sure why they'd be placed on the same pedestal as Classic Sonic in the story.)

[@endamcnabola]

I'd like an Ultimate/Absolute style alternate universe to the entire series.

[@darkmalice5130]

Doesnt Gerald's Journal mention about how he explored the StarFall islands before? Wouldn't him taking Shadow as an escort make sense then if Gerald went after Shadow's creation. Shadow could have been on the islands decades before Sonic and co ever appeared there. Gerald had mentioned that he had to look for ways to use the power Black Doom wanted against him so in the research of creating the Eclipse Cannon, he might have discovered the weapons of the islands that used Chaos energy to power them as inspiration to create his own. Hell, the Eclipse Cannon might be a copy of one of the weapons he found.

[@bbguy2245]

Theory: Remember the 8 month gap shadow was missing in between episode shadow and sonic forces? What if the time eater takes him then into the same time sonic is being attacked by the time eater? We see at the end of terminal montages video shadow staring over the forces level from green hill which is a weirdly specific thing to show in a terminal montage video (That video was hilarious though)

[@RhythmOSauce]

Potential Candidates based on Shadow's history would be Mephiles The Dark (STH 2006), Infinite (Sonic Forces), Emerl (Sonic Battle), or someone like E-123 Omega (First appeared in Sonic Heroes). It would be interesting if instead of these iconic characters that appeared and are associated with Shadow, it could just be a new character all together that Sega could cook up in the kitchen.

[@ytwhattup6128]

The extra slot is the GUN soldier that shot Maria

[@tazien]

If we get a baby Shadow who doesn't know what's about to happen to him and his sister, i'm going to scream and cry istg

[@cjaawesome616]

i hope it is sir lancelot. That would be cool.

[@GameApologist]

That’d be an awesome skin at the very least