Sonic x Shadow Generations - RadicalSoda

[@RyderMK]

Holy shit it’s Shark Tale for VHS

[@Danominator]

Holy shark

[@runningoncylinders3829]

@@DanominatorThe SharkFather!

[@TheKpa11]

@@RyderMK What’s a VHS 📼

[@Goobywoobygoo]

The boy!

[@runningoncylinders3829]

@@TheKpa11 The VHBest

[@icemanlj2k7]

Live action footage is back. Which means its only a matter of time before our lord and savior, Bear Grylls, returns to us!

[@Shantae1188]

Why did he stop?

[@icemanlj2k7]

@@Shantae1188 I believe the camera he used to film the live action segments broke

[@Shantae1188]

@@icemanlj2k7 Ah

[@awildmoose6541]

that weird 2010 youtube bit was never funny, please no

[@ccmonty994]

@@awildmoose6541hop off the goat

[@WhatTheCheick]

My assumption about Orbot and Cubot being friendly to Shadow is a mix of just how placid they can be, combined with Shadow seeming like a distant relative to them They refer to Metal Sonic as their "big brother", so maybe they see Shadow as like, their great uncle or some estranged family member

[@ggtragicsansbro6495]

He is the vodka aunt of the robotnik family

[@jimmybob5541]

They’re also probably scared Shadow will murder them

[@CiromBreeze]

They're noncombat! They're even friendly with Sonic and Tails so long as what the robots do doesn't interfere with anything Eggman's told them to do. And even then, Orbot finds workarounds to laze around anyway. Also they did meet in Colours DS.

[@danielbarnes1241]

​@@CiromBreezeyeah. In the idw comics the second Eggman's plan is foiled and he's put out of commission for awhile they hitch a ride with Sonic and Tails to go on vacation 😅

[@maiam388]

@@ggtragicsansbro6495shadow has such wine aunt vibes, even Rouge pales in comparison

[@Danominator]

Been a long time since Radical called a Sonic game "consistent"...feels good, honestly.

[@Blorb12]

WHAT IM THINKIN‼️‼️

[@DylanofScreenTime]

would you say you're "Feeling good!"

[@Murillos1]

Radical? More like real Sonic fans that want actual good games from the franchise.

[@Danominator]

Wait, this isn't Radical, this is just...RADICAL HIGHWAY!!

[@justdaffy]

yeah a real long time: never. It is refreshing though

[@liamsgreatbitgaming]

With the quality of this game, surely this is now Cream Soda

[@runningoncylinders3829]

I thought it was Radical Soda for sure with that Highway.

[@Hazel_TheOne]

@@runningoncylinders3829I demand you buy me some chaos soda 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@Kitty255Again]

I can't believe they blended Cream the Rabit and sold her as a Dr. Pepper knockoff...

[@ceecee6521]

...I like Creme Soda.

[@timmygilbert4102]

Squid soda 🐙

[@LiveHedgehog]

It's funny that the 'original' layout you showed in Frontiers is actually just a Sonic Unleashed DLC stage layout lol

[@TheStormsChannel]

That's Dragon Road Day Act 3 which is not one of the DLC stages but part of the main game.

[@abicrystalwing1543]

@@TheStormsChannel I'm not sure why he did that because Rob showed that that level was from Unleashed in his frontiers video

[@cin2110]

​@@abicrystalwing1543Dimentia boy is getting old.

[@shadowsnake5133]

To put it bluntly, it seems shadow isn't just in white space, but something deeper than even eggman went to, a place where time legitimately is actually fucked up, past, future and even alternative timelines all clashing, with shadow at the center. It's why he's getting a sonic movie 3 dlc later on, which yes, that's going to be the same shadow as in game. It's also why it looks different, it's flat out not the same place. It also explains shadow being in places he shouldn't, and bosses having different moves and shit, as it's not 1-1 that fight, rather it's an alternative version of them. My biggest evidence there is the bio lizard, he's never had ball arms before, and the metal overlord fight over water, a completely new concept.

[@juniorvasquez93]

Also explains why Mephiles is there when he canonically doesn’t exist

[@shadowsnake5133]

Also, the redub for sonic generations is a mixed bag, as like, some of it is just fixing the mistake sonic team in the us made originally, where they made sonic and tails not recognize green hill and chemical plant, yes that's not something that happened in the Japanese release, but then others are unnecessary or knuckles. Amy is the only outright good change, as now she follows the arc from unleashed into frontiers without the blip that is generations Amy, like there's a difference between vocally still be obsessed and attempting to tackle someone to the ground, something amy grew past between heroes and unleashed outside the situation known as "oh shit, did he lose to eggman? Must find him and check for injuries before he hurts himself worse" like that's genuinely a huge improvement from attempted shotgun marriage after kicking his ass in heroes, legitimately that was her plan.

[@losisansgaming2628]

Ahem...... while this does have some merit to it, I feel like this also just goes under them remixing the bosses so that shadow can do them with the moveset of the game, ie metal overlord is fought on water because shadow never fought him, the version he fought was metal madness with the rest of team dark. we can say the biolizard can be explained as it getting new powers of its own from black doom, as its a prototype of shadow, and thus may have been made using black dooms dna. if your gonna have a problem with mephilis then you should also have a problem with kingdom valley being in ruin during its level (only destroyed and abandoned after Solaris incident) and crisis city being in the firey state it is in during sonic gens, it was only in that state because ibis got released. No Solaris disaster = no crisis city and no ruined kingdom valley. Plus it's not like they didn't change the fights in shadow gens, sonic v shadow is on the arc yet plays nothing like the last fight in sa2, perfect chaos you aren't super sonic, and for egg dragoon you are the hedgehog and not the werehog.

[@yourehereforthatarentyou]

@@losisansgaming2628 you know that’s something that never occurred to me, if solaris was erased from time then why is the festival happening in the modern city of soleanna? if solaris doesn’t exist for the duke to experiment on then the duchy should still be seated in kingdom valley and venice-inspired soleanna shouldn’t even exist and while i’m at it, that festival shouldn’t exist either. its whole purpose was to honor solaris wasn’t it? this fucking game man lmao

[@ToyFreddyGaming1987]

The idea that not only is time distorting, but even the timelines are getting messy is honestly such a cool idea.

[@MattParkent]

Sonic Mania is hilarious. It came out, everyone said "Yes Sega, this is what we want! More of this, but next time make even more original levels!" and Sega said "Ok, Ok, we hear you, The Fans. Let's never make a game resembling that ever again."

[@tonyhakston536]

I mean that was less an active decision and more them driving off the developers who made Mania possible to begin with.

[@Retrblu]

@@tonyhakston536 they didn't, Evening Star wanted to make an original game by themselves and have stated that they are still on good terms with SEGA, Iizuka even wanted them to develop the project that would become Superstars

[@DarkLink1996.]

I mean, Superstars was clearly an attempt at that. If only it had the Hedgehog Engine behind it to look as good as Generations, and those level designers.

[@Rubbe87]

@@Retrblu superstars sucked ass

[@setsers1]

lolz

[@gwen3504]

I'm a Radical Highway apologist and absolutely adore how despite being built for Doom Wings, you can play both stages without. Once you've played through both stages enough to discover their myriad of shortcuts and skips, chasing S-ranks becomes an absolute delight. I'm still a little miffed that you wind up being pulled into RH across three other levels in the game, but ultimately I'm just happy we got two really challenging levels to close out such a great platformer.

[@nixter3196]

Challenging isn't the best description considering how the game opts for cheaply hiding easy shortcuts rather than have them be easily visible hard to pull off like in og gens

[@XMan2001X]

While I understand your plight of wanting Black Comet to be the final level, I think Black Doom and/or Sega had Radical Highway as the final level thematically because Shadow of confronting his past and does not like remembering how he misunderstood Maria's wish and wanted revenge on humanity. It’s a bad part of his past that he’s ashamed of, and Black Doom attempting to overwhelm him Shadow and submit to his anger. With that said, yes it is Shadow's Green Hill and the final level should have been Black Comet.

[@ThatBugBehindYou]

I honestly don't understand the point you're making, Shadow also misunderstood Maria in the arc and that's just as low of a point for Shadow as he was literally on the hour of finalizing his plan of destroying the earth. Compared to black comet or, specifically, the last way, that's a much more stressful moment for Shadow where he has the trust of sonic and the gang to the point where your hero meter is so important to the stage you can't even progress without filling it up which makes way more thematic sense here with Shadow holding back his anger and Maria putting her trust in him. It makes sense that radical highway was shoved in the back business wise, but it makes no sense at all that the final stage isn't some form of the last way which is part of the black comet.

[@XMan2001X]

@@ThatBugBehindYou it’s upon reading this that I feel like Black Comet was just wasted on Sega. I like your viewpoint much more

[@gamerdude4720]

I could’ve gotten over the final act being radical highway if it wasn’t also appearing at the end of the other acts

[@harristhesecondcomin]

Black Comet is the only level that makes sense leading up to the final boss that is Black Doom. But a full radical highway level is a nice consolation.

[@Nighterac]

​​​@@gamerdude4720Yeah I really don't think the Radical Highway sections should be a thing at all. Imagine OG Generations doing that on Speed Highway or City Escape. It just gets annoying because you want to see the full level, not just a section that barely resembles Radical Highway I can sort of excuse it for the ARK since it's they're both SA2 levels but Rail Canyon? Sunset Heights? Why???

[@axxelw3539]

24:17 Fun fact, the live and learn section has always been there, it's just that they now use a guitar for it.

[@SeaHorseOfYoutube]

Putting the Forces/Frontiers cutscenes side to side with Shadow Generations really does show the jump in quality... and how dire things really were.

[@sirsonic1832]

Even so the frontiers cutscenes were also good not all of them but a good amount were

[@HOTD108_]

​@@sirsonic1832Um, no?

[@sirsonic1832]

@@HOTD108_ no seriously they were, if you compare the frontiers cutscenes to literally the entirety of the meta era games cutscenes you’ll see they were an improvement. And yes I’m aware of the plethora of side story scenes where they are literally just standing there talking but I’m mainly taking about the main story ones

[@matiosmenta]

​@@sirsonic1832 it varies in quality to be honest, some cutscenes in frontiers look stiff as hell (talking about the main story ones)

[@Nighterac]

It's a huge step up in quality but they're still treating Sonic as a budget title for no reason. Re used assets are all over this game when it should be all new assets like OG Generations. The only new stuff is Rail Canyon. Even the Radical Highway stuff is just recoloured Eternal Highway from Frontiers Honestly the Spaceport thing for Metal Overlord is unacceptable. Imagine them doing that for Perfect Chaos in Generations. This needs to stop. The assets the team creates are great, it's just SEGA are cheap skates and won't let them make more But the cutscenes finally don't look like complete dogshit anymore so that's good. I actually really liked the cutscenes in this game. This game is still very much a budget title unfortunately like Frontiers due to the asset re use but the cut scenes don't feel like that at all

[@Jake.The.Beaver]

Take a drink at every mention of Shark Tale, you will have drank the equivalent of the ocean (as seen in Shark Tale.)

[@tastypotato9272]

Come on man I just got out of the hospital now I'm going to have to go back

[@deejayf69]

Quick addendum to the controls in Shadow generations. You can switch back to legacy controls, which is much appreciated.

[@theSonicguy001]

I was looking for this comment

[@spongebobfan78]

45:54 Hearing that the reasoning for some things is "time constraints" is funny when the team basically just said they already finished the game for a long time now and is just constantly polishing it until its release.

[@GamingTopTen]

3:40 The problem with Sonic having so many character is the untapped potential in each of them. Omega is a prime example of this. He's Eggman's answer to Gerald's Shadow, but we rarely see much of him actually being cool.

[@gloriousraccoon76895]

I’m pretty sure it’s Metal Sonic.

[@dreamareakoso3791]

@@gloriousraccoon76895 no, just no, Metal SONIC is Eggman's response to SONIC THE HEDGEHOG, not Shadow, please use your brain for two microseconds

[@gloriousraccoon76895]

@@dreamareakoso3791 no I meant as a ultimate creation which omega is not so I think you should use your brain for two microseconds.

[@TheChildofAuraReborn]

"Eggman's answer to Gerald's Shadow" It's cool seeing someone remember that bit from 06.

[@DrGandW]

43:14 ok this is your funniest joke ever and justifies all the other Shark Tale bits

[@rynobehnke8289]

The reason why Generations re-writen cut-scenes have the exact same animations as the original game is actually rather funny. Its because the Japanese version wasn't rewritten its 1 to 1 what it was in 2011 except for the 2 animation changes on Amy. And yes the lack of a full on Shadow 05 level is properly the games biggest flaw (also I prefer Shadow 05 because Shadow PS2 isn't right as it also released on Gamecube and XBox and the PS2 version is properly the worst one even)

[@blargcoster]

It's funny when he also showed clips with the Gcube's Y button mashing on screen.

[@cin2110]

Eggman's new jp va has redone voice lines since his old va passed but dialog is same.

[@ZeroZmm]

"The west likes Sonic's hands clenched" is just American Kirby is hardcore with a new coat of paint~

[@Osc473]

59:11 "WAS THAT THE BITE OF 85" ahh response

[@BritOfADrag]

18:30 glad I wasn't the only one who tried to slide under thete

[@clairemcdaid4310]

15:33 I’m so confused The existence of 2d isn’t nostalgia pandering

[@yukurusu45]

yea I didn't get that either lol

[@joshuareesor1756]

It's an especially weird statement to make when talking about Generations, which is, you know, nostalgia pandering as a whole (albeit in a good way).

[@Nii...]

i mean it was introduced in unleashed and they did that for classic fans so it kind of is tbh

[@Leffrey]

@@Nii...Unleashed is like the least classic sonic game in the franchise. Daytime Unleashed 2D is _nothing_ like classic Sonic segments in other games

[@Nii...]

@ thats not the point, it was added to please classic fans even if its not similar. The director himself said so in a 2008 interview you can easily find.

[@MrCatofdoom]

You really had to milk that random shark tale box you probably dredged up from either a garage sale or a dumpster.

[@superlombax1561]

"You tortured soul... I will end your suffering!" That's the nicest thing Shadow's ever said to his own brother.

[@cherrypopscile3385]

Worst part: I thought the last level was gonna be Westopolis until literally the last minute

[@GAHAHAHH]

Does it even matter at that point? I mistook it for Westopolis as well but after the second time I realised it was Radical Highway, the music should have been the give away but it was still a good stage and if you couldn't even tell the difference at first could you honestly say Westopolis would have been better? I for one don't require some arbitrary "representation" for a game to be "complete" or "legitimized".

[@serPomiz]

there's some drops of westopolis (for example, litterally the first drop replicates the start of it right after that) but it's still some blink-and-you-miss-it

[@OscarSanchez-vo9dx]

The last level has a westopolis reference they knew

[@Nighterac]

​​@@GAHAHAHHYes. It would have been better. It's a horrible missed opportunity not to have a Shadow 05 level in a game that's a direct sequel to it. Shadow and Black Doom are one to one with the original cutscene from 05 when they meet each other. It even uses Shadow 05 music!! It literally has everything from Shadow 05 BUT a level. Answer me why a level from 05 in a game that takes so much from 05 is a bad idea.

[@mattglover560]

For those who cba to go frame by frame at 31:07 "Okay so I get Classic Sonic and Tails along with classic eggman were in the original generations (Although eggman was specifically brought in by modern day eggman) and I figured classic Sonic + Tails were grabbed by eggman too. Honestly it's a Sonic game and I couldn't care less about who is grabbed from where I just thought the skeleton joke was funny"

[@JustGency]

Thanks, going frame by frame on mobile isn't possible to my knowledge so getting a frame perfect pause is just way too difficult and tedious to retry when the video is slowed down.

[@justin-case1012]

Seeing Rad actively hold back on straight up calling the EDM heavy tracks in this game bad is my favorite bit Like this part here 37:51 is hilarious

[@finestcacophony]

From what I can gather is the white world is built after Soleana castle town from 06. Which considering the Mephilis situation makes some sense

[@QualityGarbage]

It did have a castle-y theme in the intro to the death egg boss

[@thelognerrator]

This isn't really a justification, more so just a personal reason why I don't mind Radical Highway being Doom's Domain but. Since Black Doom is trying to take control of Shadow's body, he brings him back to Radical Highway since he went there when he was full of malice and vengeance. I mean heck, the music for Radical Highway is called "Vengeance is Mine". Like I said not a justification, I do think Black Comet would have made more sense, but I personally don't mind Radical Highway cause of what I mentioned.

[@therandomvideochannel8589]

yea exactly, radical highway serves as a thematic return to shadow's original promise of revenge, which works in this narrative context as black doom's entire goal was to make shadow give in to darkness so he could be possessed... though the real reason is just because radical highway is more iconic than black comet

[@OscarSanchez-vo9dx]

I’d argue black comet of all places would’ve made the least amount of sense as a stage knowing what dooms plan is, I mean we remember what happened last time doom and shadow were there together, shadow cemented himself as a protector of humanity and destroyed doom surrounded by allies that care about him, not exactly smart to use in the “remember when you hated humans” plan

[@mrcwillis6970]

Let’s go! Always look forward to a big sonic review by Radicalsoda. Already love Generations so much and to have it back looking and playing better and an a really cool new story with Shadow. Just overall port of Sonic Gens was done well, wish there was a bit more added but nevertheless a good port with writing changed that I feel didn’t really need doing but hey I think it’s just fine. Shadow Gens was overall really great, super fun level design, nice challenges like sonic Gens, animations for cutscenes/cinematics are incredible. Music is really good, there’s plenty to collect in the levels and things to find and do in the open world, super cool boss fights. Do wish it was a bit longer and very weird that there’s no stage from Shadow 05 like… 0-0 wha.. also feels weird we didn’t get an infinite boss fight. I didn’t mind them reusing forces and frontiers because cool levels in the end plus I personally loved what they did in the end. The Doom powers are a lot of fun and don’t get in the way of speed. Plus story even tho it’s similar to shadow 05 was nicely done, seeing Maria back and them really going out for shadow (one of my all time favourite characters) man does it feel good… your doing us proud sonic team please keep it up from here. Glad I could join your stream seeing your first reactions and you having was a blast. Once again the future for sonic keeps getting brighter, can’t describe how happy it makes me. Hype again for what’s next. 🖤❤️🌌

[@mrcwillis6970]

Apologies if this was a lot just excited and again very happy with what we got from this game, anywho hope the support helps as always Rad. Also just saw the thumbnail… damn man 0-0

[@maccamachine]

Good comment explained what I think also very well. I hope sonic team continues on this track because its levels are so fun and well designed for the most part.

[@SonicTheCutehog]

How funny that the game that has so much content taken from or remixed from Shadow 05, but doesn't have a level from the game

[@GAHAHAHH]

Like it or not it had a stage, "The ARK" is straight up a Shadow the Hedgehog stage down to the title.

[@SonicTheCutehog]

@ It's called Space Colony Ark in Shadow Generations and takes its remix and level gimmicks from Adventure 2

[@GAHAHAHH]

@@SonicTheCutehog I think in stage select or something it simply called "THE ARK", regardless they would have just called it "Final Rush" or "Final Chase", but it takes inspiration from as many as 9 levels. it being a remake of "The ARK" would explain why they used the "Highway In The Sky ...for Final Rush" for both act 1 and act 2 because "The Ark" used a remix of that theme, if it was meant to be a SA2 thing then they would have used "The Supernatural ...for Final Chase" for act 2 but they didn't. Overall I think this sort of "arguing" about what a game should have is unhealthy for the community, appreciate what is there rather then complain about what isn't there.

[@SonicTheCutehog]

@ Again, it's specifically called "SPACE COLONY ARK" and it specifically takes design cues from Final Chase and Final Rush for its layout. I think they didn't give it a specific name because Act 1 is the only level that takes place in the present, before the Time Eater destroyed time and sent everyone to White Space.

[@GAHAHAHH]

@@SonicTheCutehog By that logic you could argue that it isn't even a remake of any stage at all. People would still mistake it for Radical Highway if it was Westopolis in fact I actually mistook it for Westopolis at first. There is only like 5 truly unique stages in Shadow the Hedgehog so really what people are being upset about is not getting Black Comet specifically. I am glad we got "Space Colony ARK" and by extension all of the stages that we did get but for them to add a Shadow the Hedgehog stage they would have to get rid of an existing stage and I think with Sunset Heights and Chaos Island not only did they have the option of those or literally nothing because it would have been so much less work to remake those specifically but I am glad we got to see the true potential of those stages and wouldn't want them to be removed even if we did get something new in return. Rail Canyon and Kingdom Valley you can't remove because people would be like "where is Sonic Heroes and 06?" So that just leaves Space Colony ARK and Radical Highway and I already said they need some sort of city to do what they wanted to do with the distortions, if they had used Black Comet people wouldn't understand what is happening as well and they might just assume that is normal for the Black Comet and if they used Westopolis people would still be disappointed. As fort the Space Colony ARK you said it yourself for story reasons it doesn't make much sense for it to be any other stage and if they removed that then people would have been disappointed that a cut-scene takes place there but there is no stage. Personally I think it is a remake of "The ARK" and the only reason why they are acting like it is an SA2 thing in the marketing is because they think people would like that more and it makes for more drastically different comparisons so they think it would sell better.

[@filipvadas7602]

While I know that its different teams working on each game, if Shadow Generations is the standard we can expect for the Frontiers sequel, then sign me the hell up!

[@alyx9191]

59:10 AINT NO WAY HE STILL OWNS THAT CASE

[@rabid28]

42:30 This joke hit so hard, especially because of how genuine you sound

[@arkauthor]

This game really brought a lot to Shadow as a character, it really shows which was given the most love compared to generations remake.

[@ezelalia5739]

The best Sonic game does not have Sonic as a playable character

[@theRantingTroper]

Tails Adventure for the SEGA Game Gear?

[@Spamshoter29JeR]

knuckles chaotix?

[@kroganshepard6594]

Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine?

[@TheKpa11]

@@ezelalia5739 Wild Arms?

[@fawfulmark2]

Kinda like how the best Ghosts n' Goblins game is Demon's Crest III

[@Dededeleted]

this came up in autoplay and I thought it was a real 'did you know gaming' featuring radical soda. I was like "wow he finally made it to the big leagues. good for him" only to be sucker punched by "he didn't show up" and "shark tale for vhs"

[@OffAirProductions]

Congratulations, Mr. Soda. You have the privilege of being my entertainment while I eat my sunday spaghetti.

[@ramadaboss5689]

31:07 “Ok so I get classic Sonic and Tails along with Eggman were in the original Generations(although eggman was specifically brought in by modern day eggman) and I figured classic Sonic + Tails were grabbed by Eggman too. Honestly it’s a sonic game and I couldn’t care less about who is grabbed from where, I just thought the skeleton joke was funny”~ Radical Soda, 2024

[@GMDTheOnyxGuyEizzX]

50:19 "I was gonna scream" - Rad said after screaming

[@Gestersmek]

0:58 They did make a Sonic Mania 2. It's called Penny's Big Breakaway.

[@polygauze]

This is the most real comment I've ever seen

[@Nimrod-Bleent]

and yet Sonic Superstars probably outsold it tenfold due to brand recognition alone

[@dreamareakoso3791]

counter argument: that game isn't 2D, it's a 3D game, therefore not even a spiritual successor to Sonic Mania

[@Locke5413]

This comment made me go and check out what Penny's Big Breakaway was, since i live under a rock. After about 15 minutes of watching a playthru, I come back to say thank you.

[@mrtegs]

Who cares ​@@Nimrod-Bleent

[@almaelma11]

Honestly, this is easily the best experience I ever had as far as I can remember in my life. Experiencing it was somewhat of an eye opener on how the most through provoking piece of art could just come out of nowhere when you least expect it and give you something to think about for, dare I say it, the rest of your life. I am glad I experienced it and I will be going back to it over and over again for the rest of my life I am sure when times get really tough and I need to find my way back to the road that is life. Thank you Shark Tale. Sonic x Shadow Generations was alright too.

[@digitalgamer457]

If it isn't Shark Tales on VHS, pulling up with the peak content. ❤

[@-the_lumberjack-]

On the subject of Radical Highway, You're going crazy I think. Yeah I know exactly what you mean and I see the difference, but imo it's purely lighting and I THINK some haze causing the grey. It's nighttime but there's not many streetlamps, it's under doom's control so there's no AF flying around dropping bombs, there's far more open space so you can see a further distance while the further into the haze, the darker it's going to feel. It's making the thematics realistic while also conforming to the current reason as to WHY you are there.

[@AnimalXing]

You were so hard on Radical Highway!! The level didn’t deserve it - it’s fun and the aesthetics work for me

[@blargcoster]

Eh hehehe, you typed "hard on"

[@thequickmasterrace6]

Yeah Radical didn’t understand the point of Radical Highway. From a narrative perspective, it’s Black Doom trying to taunt Shadow using the level where he was at his angriest, his most vengeful. & from the stage perspective, I think it’s meant to show that Black Doom’s version of Radical Highway is twisted, distorted, a far cry from how the Level originally looked. & I think that was the point, to show that Black Doom is trying everything to distort Shadow’s memories, while Shadow goes after him

[@ctpp64]

I think he was just salty since radical highway got in over a Shadow the Hedgehog stage

[@OscarSanchez-vo9dx]

@@ctpp64the people will hate to hear this but the ark IS the shadow 05 stages, it just references every other outer ark stage as well

[@starfalchion4404]

I will say this when it comes to the Chemical Plant asset reusable for the Metal Overlord boss fight. I wouldn’t call it “lazy”. These games have deadlines and so many other things they were focusing on polishing like the animations and level design, that it makes sense that if there’s a way to save on development, they’re going to take it. It’s working smarter not harder. Them actually recoloring the assets is a pretty smart way to recycle them from a design perspective.

[@joshuareesor1756]

I would say it's similar to the asset reuse in SA2, where there are many shared assets between levels. Since they're contextualized as specific locations and changed up enough with level design, people often don't mind the reuse since the levels themselves are still good while having enough new to perceive them as unique places despite being built form the same origin.

[@NotSoGenesiz]

yeah i’m completely ok with the asset reuse. it’s not like it was used willy nilly, if a good bit of people aren’t able to notice or are outright defending it, then it shows that they did a good job with it. it never bothered me since it wasn’t a huge point of contention within the gameplay, since it still looks nice visually

[@fancyfrosty9879]

Also it doesn't look like chemical plant that's the main thing If shadow was surfing over pink slowly rising water which threatened to drown him if he didn't win in time and the stage had an abundance of blue on everything else, yeah, it'd be maybe not lazy but a bit underwhelming But this boss just doesn't feel like it in the chemical plant

[@spawnshell1]

What annoys me is that is now sonic team is finally taking notes from rgg studios (reuse and refine) people criticize it…. Sonic team is finally learning to reuse assets and still cook with the assets and improve on them and they get flack for it when the yakuza series (rgg studios) reuses assets all the time and everyone is fine with it

[@serPomiz]

still believe theyshould have had some definite pieces of the ships jotting out of the water. say that's what's remaining after metal madness upgraded to metal overload and the thing was sunk. minimal addition, maximum return

[@connorplays6263]

"I thought it was because he's black" that made me laugh 😂

[@comicfan1324]

Hot Take: I actually like Shadow’s boost animation. It kind of reminds me of Shadow’s chaos control ability from Shadow 05 and I feel like it’s pretty fitting as it makes it seem like Shadow’s air boots are going full force and letting him float off the ground as he rockets forward

[@chriskoloski32]

The main problem with them redubbing generations dialog...is that they proved they can reanimate cutscenes too. Like the opening cutscene where Amy is holding cupcakes instead of trying to hug sonic and the chaos in the cutscene too. So they just....didn't change the cutscenes for saving sonics friends

[@Beefaroni_Bert]

One of the biggest things i love about this game is just how BIG the levels were. Multiple paths to take to get different times and see just how much care was actually put into them was a sight to behold for a sonic game. Genuinely proud of Sonic Team with this one and I hope they really learn that its OKAY TO GIVE US FUN WELL POLISHED GAMES.

[@Calhasnopals]

I really liked Radical Highway personally, because I feel like they weren’t even trying to ‘recreate’ the SA2 stage so much as they wanted to ‘reimagine’ it. They really wanted to hammer home how damaged Black Doom’s iteration of Radical Highway is, with the bridges torn apart and scattered into pieces, the towers spinning and spiralling. It’s a very different direction that the rest of the stages which are very dedicated to trying to recapture the style of those stages, but I really enjoyed it myself

[@ctpp64]

yeah the new radical highway is intentionally very different. the og was bright and colorful, but the new one has all this purple fog everywhere and is super trippy. I think he was trying too hard to compare it to the og instead of judging it as its own zone

[@ClassikSprites]

18:18 it actually did work in a similar way in Sonic Generations, for the bosses at least. In Sonic Generations, the terrain around the bosses would be made of black bricks, Shadow Generations expands on this idea and turns the area around the bosses into castles made of gold, white, and black bricks.

[@PowerSentaiRanger]

That thumbnail is foul Soda.

[@nikdoesstuff9338]

who's soda? i thought this was Shark Tale for VHS

[@PowerSentaiRanger]

@nikdoesstuff9338 oh wait you right I miss took him for someone else.

[@TrueGameFreak]

Kinkymation did it first, and better

[@ViltrumiteIsRite99]

So, wtf is the context to it? Haven’t played the game by the way.

[@WarmLusamine]

Probably just macabre art of Maria because sick girl.

[@BurntRavi07]

I was honestly confused as hell on what the area in Metal Overlord’s boss fight was based off of. It didn’t help the fact I never really played Heroes. But if you showed me Final Fortress and the area in Overlord’s fight you cannot convince me they are the same place, they look completely different as Radical said.

[@ArmyEliteGeminia]

31:58 I kinda assumed the aim for the retextured-chemical-plant water-based metal overlord fight was to show the port Eggman built and launched all the ships for egg fleet rather than the location being a direct reference to Egg Fleet or Final Fortress. Which also makes sense considering there was a level in frontiers called Space Port. But yeah, at the end of the day the assets are generations' chemical plant.

[@B4D3rain]

Its kinda funny, because in sonic generations all the glitches stay (im glad for that personally), but now the drop dash creates new glitch variations. Like M-Speed being able to be done by the Drop Dash now. So kinda weird but overall fine.

[@bastel_art]

28:15 even worse is that shadow CAUSED the events of forces and made no effort to stop himself from doing so once he gets a glimpse of the consequences. Wonder how he felt going through sunset heights and connecting the dots

[@justinstephens8432]

In fairness, I don’t think he got a glimpse of what caused all that, but yeah imagine seeing it and being like “…ohhh fuck I did this didnt I…”

[@filipvadas7602]

I wouldn't be suprised if they retcon that moment in Forces outright. Its a horribly out of character moment for Shadow. The fact that he and Infinite, to my knowledge, barely interact outside of the DLC makes it worse.

[@wyn9693]

maybe after creating infinite and having already seen the conquering of the planet, he'd deluded himself into thinking it was his story and went around collecting the emeralds and destroying the death egg robots roaming the streets. then apparently sonic wasn't stuck in the death egg being tortured this whole time so he just gave up and went to bed.

[@joshuareesor1756]

To be fair, all he saw was Sunset Heights being destroyed by Eggman's robots. Eggman could try that any time if he wanted, so it's hard to tell what would lead to that occurring. I doubt he would think beating up one thug would be the catalyst to Eggman's invasion.

[@epicmaster46]

49:56 WAIT WE’RE ACTUALLY GETTING THE REST OF THE UNLEASHED REVIEW?!?!

[@maccamachine]

This is probably the most fun I’ve had with sonic levels in years. I hope they continue like this because I enjoy this type of game and level design over anything frontiers did any day. The hub world was okay but I think I’m just not a fan of open world/“open zone” type places. Once it came down to a few collection boxes left to find it was a little annoying but that’s about it. I did enjoy this hub world more than the world in frontiers though lol.

[@skeletonking27]

The reason they use radical highway is also because westopolis and radical highway are in the same city. Same city different area.

[@GeneralAwesomenessPlays]

Theres also the fact that they delisted the OG Port of generations and slapped it into a collection of other sonic games for 60 bucks, making that version more expensive somehow. (And some of the sonic games in THAT pack are getting delisted in December, so its your only way to play them if you dont already have them)

[@gloriousraccoon76895]

I thought it was $50 bucks.

[@AAhmou]

Just checked, It is 50 bucks. Valid comment, but misinformation is misinformation.

[@jimmybob5541]

What other games are getting delisted next month?

[@321cheeseman]

@@jimmybob5541 They're delisting all the Mega Drive and Genesis Classics stuff on Dec 6th. The Sonic Generations bundle games affected are Sonic 3D Blast and Sonic Spinball. Obviously not the biggest losses in the world, but it still sucks they're removing this stuff (probably to sell yet another repackaging of the same Genesis ROMs to you).

[@GeneralAwesomenessPlays]

Sonic 3d Blast and Sonic Spinball

[@thew00dsman79]

The absolute WHIPLASH I got hearing the Manderville theme from FFXIV at the end of this video I swear

[@CastellANM]

25:31 LMAO that sharktale clip caught me off guard

[@chriskoloski32]

Mephiles being aware that he no longer exists in the timeline and wants to come back was interesting

[@TheOrderEnforcer]

I think something that should be pointed out is that, for Black Doom, Metal Overlord, and Mephiles, all their VAs were changed. Black Doom is now voiced by Ben Diskin, who also voiced Mega Man for Mega Man 11 & Eddie Brock/Venom from the old Spectacular Spider-Man show Metal Overlord is now voiced by Ray Chase, who some might know as Bruno Bucciarati from the JoJo Part 5 English Dub. And finally, Mephiles. He is now voiced by Robbie Daymond, the same man who voices Goro Akechi in Persona 5, instead of Dan Green. While it is a shame the older voice actors didn’t return, most of these voices sound similar enough (except Metal Overlord, he’s the only obvious one) that I don’t personally mind it

[@CiromBreeze]

Huh, Robbie Daymond voiced Mephiles? Loved his work as Chai from Hi-Fi Rush, Young Cricket from WarioWare and, uh, "Voice 4" from Helldivers 2. Didn't know he was the new Mephiles!

[@viruschris3160]

Sound similar enough? For Mephiles? Uh, no. Absolutely. To me it doesn’t work for Mephiles as his previous voice was deeper and colder. The new one is too… high pitch? Whiny? I can’t find the words, but it doesn’t fit Mephiles. Now the other VAs I think are great and fit the characters well. Did take me a while on Metal Sonic, but the fan dub Va for Neo Metal Sonic from Sonic Forces Overclocked is so great the official is a little subpar.

[@TheOrderEnforcer]

@@CiromBreeze you can hear it's him when he says "I WANT...TO EXIST!" and "It's time to raise the curtain on this macabre play"

[@ghoulchan7525]

I wish they just asked Dan to return for Mephilis.

[@viruschris3160]

@ghoulchan7525 I heard he’s retired so I don’t know if he would come back if asked.

[@Supersonicblue1027]

To put it bluntly, Shadow is, in a version, a white space that is caused by Black Doom taking control of the time manipulation that Eggman caused in space and why Shadow was unaffected by the manipulation, as well as Omega randomly showing up there. Basically, think of it like Black Doom got a power up from the time eater and used that power to make his own white space where time is completely distorted, and due to him not knowing how to really control said power, it inadvertently left rifts in white space for places from the distant future and "past alterations" [- Gerald Robotnik] to get through such as Kingdom Valley and of course since Kingdom Valley is from a future that was altered/sealed away forever Black Doom has no control over it and instead Mephiles has control over it. This is reflected to be true by his first action in his SxS generations boss fight, where he tries to get rid of Shadow so he can take his place, which means Mephiles and Black Doom were both antagonists of Shadow Generations both fighting to control that area of white space with Mephiles gaining control over Kingdom Valley and Chaos Island hence all of darkness covering the land of one of the background islands surrounding chaos island that we play act 1 on. Meanwhile, Black Doom had control over everything else and took the Biolizard from the exact point in time that it met its end and trapped it between life and death as the emerald chamber in that fight is in a state between when the ark is falling and when it is reverted back to its original position via chaos control which explains the Biolizard's extra powers and it being able to control the ark in that fight and it also means Shadow was actually being serious when he said he would set the Biolizard free from it's suffering. As for the Metal Overlord fight, well, that isn't actually Metal Sonic, but it is instead Metal Sonic Kai, which is Eggman's true first ever Metal Sonic, which he made after losing Metal Sonic on Little Planet until Sonic 4, of course. Metal Sonic Kai is the one that was in Triple Trouble and Knuckles Chaotix and any game Metal Sonic appeared in during the time between Sonic CD and Sonic 4, and he was far slower than Metal Sonic or the real Sonic. However, unlike the true Metal Sonic [who, yes, I do believe is just a robotized Sonic from an erased CD bad ending timeline where Eggman got all the stones and used them to take over the world and eventually take everything away from Sonic before turning his body into Metal thanks to all the extra time he had from the time stones to figure out how to do that but that.] he knew that he was a robot and simply wanted to prove that he was superior to all organic lifeforms except for Eggman as he created him and therefor would always be superior to him at least in his mind. Yes, that means he actually acknowledged Sonic as Sonic, and that is important because, in the SxS generations Metal Overlord fight, Metal Overlord Kai specifically says, "You can't beat me no one can, not you, not Sonic, not anyone." he acknowledges Sonic as Sonic and he explodes into bits at the end of the boss which Metal Sonic canonically can not do as he survived that laser in Sonic CD. This means Black Doom and Mephiles's struggle for control inadvertently created a pocket alternate universe where Eggman never found Metal Sonic in Sonic 4 and continued to use Metal Sonic Kai, and when Shadow from the true timeline defeats him, that pocket alternate universe ceases to exist, allowing Shadow to return to anomaly white space. Now that I'm done with that part, I would like to say that the version of Sunset Heights at 28:12 is not a new version, nor is it how the levels in Forces should have been, but it is quite literally Sunset Heights the way Sonic Team originally intended it to be and how it would have been if Sega didn't try to pull and O6 with Forces and rush it out to stores when it needed more time to bake, and I am serious the concept art for the original stage includes every gimmick included in this version with all the extra paths that doom blast can reach having springs or dash rings instead. Sonic Team literally traded in Westopolis City to make the true version of Sunset Heights real because they weren't able to give that experience to us in Forces. This is also represented by the stage theme being the original theme present in Sonic Forces but with elements from the beta version of the theme added in to make the song sound even cooler and nail home the fact that this is the true Sunset Heights. Honestly, if they ever are allowed to remake Forces and get the time they actually need to make it properly with true original stage designs and the darker story in mind, I don't think anyone would complain. Same with O6. Also, speaking of Westopolis, I will say that Radical Highway Act 2 and the bit in Space Colony Ark Act 1 is actually Radical Highway and Westopolis fused together via Black Doom's warped memory of the city, which makes sense when you consider that City Escape's true name is "City Westopolis" and Radical Highway is a bridge, a bridge connecting City Escape and Westopolis together. so they found a way to get Westopolis into the game physically somehow, even if they didn't give it its own stage. Lastly, I would like to inform you that they did not change the color of the Black Arm's swords. The swords were always red in the concept art and the Japanese version of Shadow The Hedgehog 2005/Shadow The Hedgehog 05 [STH PS2]. For some unjustified reason, the localization team took it upon themselves to make the blades purple in the international versions simply because they could. So the fact their color isn't changed in SxS generations means Sonic Team and Sega were not allowing any color alterations as people want to see the game the way it was intended to look, which is something they seem to be doing a lot now, and I like it. It's nice to see a thing as it is meant to visually be portrayed with the correct colors. *Edit:* I just wanted to add that if you speak to Gerald in doom space [red, white space], one of his dialog boxes has him tell Shadow that he has an idea of what will happen when everything is over and tells Shadow that his promise to Maria shouldn't be his only purpose. Which kinda means that the versions of Gerald and Maria here are the ones who made the hidden and encrypted video that is in Shadow The Hedgehog 05's final story before they slowly forgot about doom space. Also wanted to say that the Doom Morph is based off of an unused Black Arms design from Shadow The Hedgehog 05 making it a cool reference for those who knew that information. Another bit of lore I want to add is that Black Doom never actually used his real body in Shadow The Hedgehog 05. He made an extra body from the bodies of his soldiers, and the star Eyeball thing is just a vessel he used to possess his other body, so in SxS generations, the body he uses is his real body, which is detailed with the same veiny texture as the Black Arms unlike his body in Shadow 05 and him using his real body is most likely what he meant when he said he would not make the same mistake with Shadow again because his real body is canonically stronger than his replica that was destroyed in Shadow The Hedgehog 05. Yes, he is actually defeated for real this time. Lastly, you may like to know that the reason the cutscenes are the same in the Sonic Generations port included in SxS generations is that it wasn't actually rewritten in the Japanese version. The international version was rewritten in a way that attempts to make it as close to the Japanese script as possible. Yes, that line they make Shadow say now in the Time Eater boss fight cutscene was in the original Japanese version of the game; the meme line was something only people in outside of Japan would actually understand. Oh yeah, and them acknowledging their past adventures and recognizing Chemical Plant was in the JP version already as well. The dialog was simply extended in the SxS generation JP port, hence why the cutscene was made longer. So yeah, the lines may feel stiff, but keep in mind aside from a few Ian liberties here or there, the lines are literally him trying to translate the JP lines directly word for word in a way that makes sense in English without losing or changing their meaning, unlike what the OG international Generations dialog did. So, in all honesty, this is basically the definitive version of Generations for the Japanese and the true story port for the international version.

[@alainali6010]

The Sharktale running gag REALLY overstays its welcome.

[@nikdoesstuff9338]

boo i love Shark Tale for VHS

[@joshshrum2764]

Well i just finished the game yesterday much later than everyone else admittedly, but it was still a glorious experience i just want to see another shadow focus game that has original areas, and all that because it’s cool to have shadow exploring white space, but it still makes me crave something new with shadow in it, and see how he can develop since unfortunately shadow generation is that it’s still post forces so shadow hasn’t had development like Sonic, so i think he needs to go through something like Sonic did to become the best version of himself since the end of adventure two.

[@ChargeJN]

i have no idea why they changed knuckles slamming into the tree? it was funny! now its just empty and awkward. like amy went off script and knuckles is standing there confused like “do we cut? we’re really using this take?”

[@nixter3196]

@ChargeJN Don't forget the fnaf animatronic stare they added in the opening

[@Nighterac]

It's just so unnecessary and just an overcorrection to weird fans complaining about it

[@cin2110]

Because Amy has been lobotimized and lost what was left of her character after meta era she also lost her physical power I guess lobotomy will do that to you. Knuckles still acts like a duufus so they didn't fix the problem.

[@siren-nate6565]

Rad, blink twice if Shark Tale is holding you hostage.

[@joeker5208]

Oh my god. Are those hints that we’re finally getting the UNLEASHED VIDEO?!?!?

[@Dork_000]

28:15 He didn't get any information about the war. When it happened, how it happened, why it happened. Also he was stuck in an illusion during most of Forces shown in episode shadow

[@michaelmcd64]

There's the Sonic Movie 3 level coming in the future and it's already been speculated that it uses assets from the Yakuza series, which is also published by Sega. There's no confirmation yet since it hasn't released but it's certainly something.

[@JustSomeRandomWeeb00]

29:33 I personally feel that's because of Black Doom's meddling, corrupting Radical Highway more and more until it becomes barely recognisable, trying to turn it into his domain since the Black Comet is nowhere to be found

[@loganboyd6609]

The reason the game is re-dubbed was because a good portion of the original cast from Sonic Generations no longer works with Sega

[@Frozen_fyactal2554]

i still find it odd because they couldve had the new actors say the same lines from the original script instead of needlessly rewrite it

[@loganboyd6609]

@@Frozen_fyactal2554 that problem can be attributed to the fact that Sega didn't actually give any of these characters arcs and Ian Flynn was brought in and changed a lot of the characters personalities and tried referencing a bunch of story they realized their characterizations don't make sense and try to fix it like amateurs

[@nixter3196]

@loganboyd6609 should've saved themselves the trouble like they did with like half the side stages in base gens. They forgot to dub a lot of them

[@CastellANM]

Weird how they did manage to re hire Tails's Colors Original VA for Colors Ultimate

[@loganboyd6609]

@@CastellANM they didn't they were just lazy with it and most people don't know about the recast

[@jamesbryan287]

I may have gotten baited but, it's not an instrumental of " all hail shadow"... It's an instrumental of " throw it all away " which has several musical references in this game. It's his theme from Sonic adventure 2

[@Bladist1]

I'm just here to see if TubularBicarbonate gets mad at Chemical Plant again. Edit: Yup.

[@joaquindiaz3621]

31:07 doesn't the Game itself manage to explain that It was black doom's doing that Gerald and María are here?

[@castform7]

Eh, I guess. At the end Gerald says that with Black Doom defeated they're going back to the time they were pulled from but 1. Why does he have these powers? I know it's stated that as Shadow gets stronger so does he but I don't really equate that with bringing specific people from a specific point in time. More importantly 2. Why would he do this. He needs nothing from either Gerald or Maria and basically gave Shadow his support system back which helps him in the final battle. I like a lot of what this story does but I do scratch my head at what Black Doom can do here and how Maria and Gerald get here and get back.

[@joaquindiaz3621]

@castform7 i suppose that in point 2, because black Doom is related to shadow It dragged María and Gerald as well and maybe It was part of his plans in making him angry, the black arms did try to kill María in that one cutscene so he didn't expect that María and Gerald would help support his feelings. The first one is a mistery, could be that the White space sealed him but Also made shadow and black Doom link that everytime he powers Up, black Doom gets more powerful and corrupts the White space to his liking. But no idea how he did get that powerful, that is a mistery

[@castform7]

@joaquindiaz3621 Okay that actually makes a decent amount of sense, though I would have to wonder why he wouldn't bring back a Maria and Gerald right after their deaths (I mean this in universe of course, no way in hell would they put that in an E 10+ game). At least bring back Gerald after he lost his sanity. Once again just wanna be clear, like this story a lot, just can't get over this hiccup along with Black Doom's sudden leap in power.

[@knights.fall06]

We haven’t seen Bear Grylls in a while, how is he doing?

[@OtZillaFM]

8:08 OMFG THANK YOU!!!! Holly Shit! I thought I was the only one! God we need to change the Quickstep's funcionality if we want to keep the Boost on R2/RT/ZR

[@ccmonty994]

If they were brave they would have done a boom or black knight stage instead of chaos island

[@Nighterac]

Honestly I would take any game Shadow was actually in instead of the one game Shadow is NOT in. Laughably stupid decision and reeks of reusing assets. I just want SEGA to actually have faith in Sonic and not just cut corners. OG Generations remade all the levels and bosses with new assets. Shadow Gens should have done the same.

[@Stray007_]

⁠@@Nighteracthen again, og gens was a full budget, mainline game. shadow gens is a side game, made on a much smaller budget, and didnt even start production till after the second movie came out (less than two years). the conditions for shadow gens were so much stricter, so i wouldnt really blame sonic team for asset re-use, and id never call it "cutting corners." at least we got a full game with some new assets, shadow gens couldve easily been as simply as a couple levels and a black doom boss

[@Nighterac]

​​​​​​​​​​@@Stray007_ That's the problem. Budget is still screwing with Sonic. There shouldn't even BE "budget titles". It's fucking Sonic. It should not be made on smaller budgets for fucks sake. Never was a problem until recently. Like I said, OG Gens never had this issue. It's only after OG Gens that SEGA started being cheap bastards. It's like Mario getting budget titles. SEGA needs to stop being cheap. It is completely right for me to call out them cutting corners because that's exactly what they're doing and it's called out in this video. The original assets are great, stop re using shitty ones from older games. They are very noticeable and are distracting. I want Final Fortress to actually fucking look like it dude. Not Spaceport shit. It's honestly unacceptable. SEGA still does not have faith in Sonic. Only the movie. Conditions should never be "strict".

[@neverwhere3416]

It’s nice to hear some positivity and a return to light hearted humour! Much as i understand the frustration with Pokemon Scarlet/Violet it was a bit much listening to hours of nitpicking negativity!

[@sonicun9907]

dude YES, I would have LOVED to see black comet revamped, it's such an interesting stage unlike anything in the series, and seeing all that goopiness and alien aesthetics in hd would have been ridiculously amazing, heck I would have taken westopolis for Christ sake, anything from shadow the hedgehog! But I guess seeing black doom and the black arms come back are good enough.

[@Nighterac]

Any Shadow 05 level being absent is just weird period. Westopolis was literally right there. It even had a full remix at the TGS along with the other tracks in the game. Even Radical Highway was there. Literally EVERY track BUT Westopolis. Is that track even in the game? It's like it was going to be in the game but for some reason it got cut and it's very noticeable

[@yourehereforthatarentyou]

my favorite part of this entire game is shadow telling maria that he still wants to keep his promise to her to give everyone a chance to be happy and then smiles at her it’s the first time (in the games) we’ve ever seen a real smile on shadow’s face. not the cocky smirks he’s given or the weird psycho laugh he does in the evil endings of shadow 05, but a moment of shadow being vulnerable and truly showing love & affection. rare shadow moment that i will treasure forever bc he is my boy

[@EnclaveEmily]

Finally, Kiwi reviews the black sonic game

[@MashupProductions22]

Black Knight?

[@Abejorro97]

41:26 "I was gay before the light." *Elise faints*

[@streled5361]

Thing is, Radical Highway and Biolizard were already in the 3DS version of Sonic Generations...

[@tonyhakston536]

57:17 ugh, no, Nu Amy is just Boom Amy removed from the comedy setting. Best fix is to roll her back to her characterization in any of Shuffle, SA2, Shad05, Riders, Zero Gravity, or Unleashed. Hell, even SA1 would be better.

[@blargcoster]

Too bad the MODERN AUDIENCE ain't havin that.

[@therandomvideochannel8589]

new amy = woke amy

[@Nighterac]

Amy was fine in the 2000s. The only exception being maybe Battle but everything else is just Amy being Amy. It's just weird fans complaining about her and saying when she's a "StAlkEr" in games like Heroes when she never was Don't tell the fans that none of the other characters had a problem with Amy during Heroes. Knuckles says SONIC is the issue, he's playing with Amy's heart. Even Cream and Big cheer her on and tell her "Good luck" at the end. Also Tails ran after Sonic first. Damn I guess Tails is a stalker too! And especially don't tell them that the team fights were not meant to be taken seriously and were all played for laughs like the rest of the game. Literally watch the Chaotix Vs Team Dark cutscene. The Chaotix literally did nothing wrong and were just walking around. It's ROUGE who starts the fight. Shadow and Omega don't even say a single thing during that cutscene. Weird fans just don't like comedy I guess

[@spinceiling7442]

I'm glad she has her fans but Amy has always been a whack character to me. Extremely annoying in the older games and bland as hell in the newer ones. They need to give her some kind of purpose

[@1dayago843]

50:55 holy fucking shit you're a comedy genius

[@hamedalzarooni442]

That threw me

[@UltimateinvaderFeeb]

Black Doom: "Can I interest you in a Radical Highway in this trying time?"

[@SnesySnas]

I think they didn't add any Shadow the Hedgehog (game) levels is because of the whole different endings things There is still no canon ending that leads to the epilogue, and since you don't get to play ALL the games' levels in reaching ONE ending, other than Westpolis there really wasn't a good level they could choose without accidentaly "confirming" a path They could've done Westpolis but they probably didn't want to have 2 city based levels (Sunset Height being debatably the other, or Radical Highway if they still wanted that in the game)

[@TheUltimateMachineGod]

The still could've done black comet though. After all it is featured in the last story. Would be a nice dlc stage too.

[@SnesySnas]

@@TheUltimateMachineGod Ah yeah that's right..Yeah i'm stumped why they didn't do it

[@finalformsonic]

Honestly, it would've made more sense to replace all the Radical Highway obsession with Westopolis. Sure, Radical Highway is Shadow's Green Hill but it definitely feels forced given that we're dealing with a Shad05 villain and not, say, evil Gerald Robotnik.

[@TheUltimateMachineGod]

@@finalformsonic honestly that's kinda what I thought the distortion was at first.

[@DionneDion]

An amazing sonic review once again, I missed those times honestly. The pokemon ones were nice, but I'm glad we switch things up every once in a while. And for some reason the shark tale being your "character" never got old for me. I always have good laughs with your channel, thanks for always making my days. Every new video is a reward for my patience I swear to god lmao. To think it started with you reviewing sonic horror games all the way back where I found your channel, and now we're here. It's too bad the unleashed review series got canned but who knows..Maybe one day it'll be back. I'll root for the next video. Thanks again.

[@Mirthful_Panda]

37:45 honestly I’d take Chaos Island over Planet Wisp in the base game any day screw the stage, screw collecting the red rings in it, and screw both acts for taking so damn long

[@Talonflamez]

25:32 Ah yes, Don Edward from hit game, shadow the hedgehog. Seriously though, sneaking that in was not only genius but fucking hilarious

[@B-Titor]

Alternate Title: RadecalSoda complains for one hour straight about Sega not giving him a sponsor like most sonic players on youtube

[@falconboi9126]

???

[@greenhowie]

Don't think he'd be able to do a straight up advert for Sega, he'd insist on pointing out flaws and companies hate that.

[@StarStreamVee]

37:22 You're absolutely right that it has to do with money, but there actually is an in-universe explanation given by Gerald if you talk to him after completing Chaos Island where Shadow asks him why there are some areas he doesn't recognize despite most of them being from his past and Gerald says that since there's no time in White Space it's possible Shadow's experiencing his tomorrow the same way he would his yesterday. So it's at least implied that Shadow at some point will go to Chaos Island

[@pika51011]

Honestly if they replaced Radical Highway with Westopolis I would have been happy.

[@apselbluestar2223]

Rad. My man. You're killin me and I'm not even a minute in. Thanks for all your hard work dude.

[@filipvadas7602]

Literallly my main flaw with the game is that I don't think they ever give a concrete explanation how Black Doom does all this. Yes, they say he survived his battle with Shadow in his respective game and is using the anomaly caused by the Time Eater, but that really doesn't explain how he's able to mess with history the way he does all on his own.

[@therandomvideochannel8589]

yeah, black doom was able to manipulate space around him on the ark, even before the time eater showed up. though i do think that this can be justified as a 'nightmare sequence', similar to what shadow experiences in dark beginnings because of the direct blood connection between them

[@filipvadas7602]

​@@therandomvideochannel8589 I think that was confirmed as him, essentially, peaking into Shadow's memories. What he does in Shadow Generations is a different beast entirely.

[@cin2110]

Ye he has time eater powers randomly lol.

[@RotcodFox]

37:12 I believe that it's because Shadow was actually on Chaos Island before Sonic reached the island, and Shadow left the island before Sonic got to it. So from the perspective of Sonic in Frontiers, we would've never known that he was there