Are We Missing the Main Problem with the Diddy Controversy?

[@MichaelJohnson-wk8tk]

I know several men who were victims of coaches, preachers, teachers and other authority figures. Too often the male victims are shamed into silence. It's much deeper than many people are willing to accept. Excellent conversation.

[@TirraOmilade]

My mother was like Kyla’s mom. She protected me fiercely and she didn’t mind confronting people who were doing wrong. So grateful for that.

[@tiffanyspencer2782]

My parents watched us like a hawk, but we were still mol@sted & r@ped on my Dad's fam. I never blamed my Dad until I realized he knew what happened to us years before we remembered/dreamed it. He still hasn't addressed it. He talks about it to other ppl, but not us. I've never had a decent relationship w/him, but w/in the last few years I'm very angry about it. At this point we will never talk about it bc he still doesn't protect us about it. I don't trust him. There's nothing to talk abt.

[@zeepickens9049]

​@@tiffanyspencer2782 *I hear you Sis💕and may you find the peace and healing you want. Just know sometimes people who offend us NEVER come to terms with apologizing to us, so don't let that hinder YOU from being GREAT👑! Keep sharing your story, you are a light✨!!!*

[@tiffanyspencer2782]

@@zeepickens9049 I'm taking care of my mental health, my peace, my joy & my happiness. No one can do it for me. I'm going to be ok. Thank you

[@marquisstukes2376]

@@tiffanyspencer2782so sorry to hear that I understand how you feel sending prayers and healing ❤🙏🏽

[@agro-valleyfarm7217]

A Blessed Mom-however it seems like these panelists want to give these women a pass who put their children in harm's way.

[@AIRiddleRoom]

Because a lot of idols will fall and a lot of black people will have to answer for people they blindly praise and support even when the signs were there and told to them.

[@Theinfamouskiki411]

Amen honey!!

[@soapmaker7426]

​@@Theinfamouskiki411324⁴

[@atyourbest5385]

People praise and support whoever they like as an entertainer, you have your favorite entertainer don't you? What's wrong with supporting someone you admire, the issue is not about the support the issue is gathering evidence. Growing up, I knew of a few shady people myself, I heard stories and saw some things but going to the police without any hard evidence but just hearsay and "what I saw" don't cut it. Anyone can do that. It's the victims that need to confirm and press charges.

[@madant22]

This is just a way of keeping black ppl at a certain level and keeping quiet and docile. That’s all. They using our favorite entertainers to bring us down a notch. These people and for the people or want justice for the victims. This is non genuine to me.

[@Bosay831Gaming]

@@madant22 #1 it needs to happen. Entertainers ARE false idols.

[@papertags]

A snake is going to be a snake. It's the parents' responsibility to not drop their kids in a snake pit.

[@eggedon6112]

@@papertags Say it loud for the people in the back!

[@eg3186]

My parents were the same we couldn't sit on men laps , spend the night outside our homes none of it and we got the talk early about inappropriate touching no matter who it is.

[@michelleplaskoff9920]

As a mom...what disturbed me the most was that there were parents who sent their babies to his camp ...for financial compensation....who in their right mind send their baby to live with a grown man....that's how the grooming happens...it's a damn shame

[@eggedon6112]

@@michelleplaskoff9920 It's because it's immoral, but not illegal, especially if rich ones are involved. Corruption feeds this system.

[@ReinventingEnergyAndLove]

The Usher interview said it all for me. That interview alone told me all I needed to know. A 13 year old child has no business in those adult environments.

[@eggedon6112]

Usher's mom pretty much sold him to Diddy. That's sick right there.

[@crecasens]

@@eggedon6112 - And Diddy was wrong for exposing him to that crap.

[@eggedon6112]

@@crecasens So true😪! Warped mind and soul. Hurt people hurt people. 😪

[@rhondacruse309]

​@eggedon6112 same things for parents sending their daughters to R Kelly 😮

[@lindajackson2382]

Nor a 15 year old, as in Bieber's case!

[@cameronandersonsr]

This topic of our young sister of the darker nation getting touched is a larger problem than we want to admit. I can go so far as to state, I have not dated a sister that has not been touched (respectfully, and not to tell their business). That is not the most disgusting thing about it. What is more troubling is that none of those sister every had anyone believe them. The victims were blamed. We need to address this problem in our community yesterday.

[@mechelenewell1012]

Or ppl believe and do nothing. They protect their perverted family member. I have said it before and seen it in my own family.... perverts are protected at all costs, especially within the black family. It is disgusting. I have zero respect for women who know the filth of their men and stay with them.

[@midoshishifu]

Holding blk men accountable in our community is pushbacked on because of the history of blk men being wrongfully accused . So even when we all know they’re guilty there’s a hesitance and instant reaction to claim their innocence. It’s allowed predators , conmen , abusers to thrive in our community with women and children being victims

[@submissiveproviderstboth9485]

who were they accused by!!! it wasnt Black Women lying on them!!!

[@TheErikaShow]

🎯You better talk about it! 💯

[@siriusjones956]

​@@submissiveproviderstboth9485 So what! The behavior is still wrong. Not every accusation is false.

[@submissiveproviderstboth9485]

@@siriusjones956 what are you on about bruv

[@otisthomas9976]

Or hold all adults accountable. These adults could have said no and left. They said for the jobs money fame and being around power. Children are totally different

[@JamaicaYam]

I so appreciate this conversation! We rarely as Black women have the space to truly focus on saving ourselves. 😊

[@charmcitydecodedbysturner]

Great conversation that need to be had more.

[@phemykadri9487]

David’s point is highlighting the responsibility of parents, that’s not defense of the predator. Multiple things can be true

[@lynnellscott9079]

I was looking for this.

[@KarenHunterShow]

of course...SMH!

[@mykdebradley3586]

Karen should have let David finish HiS points, before attacking what she thought he meant, and now he's being accused of backtracking because he's trying to defend himself from an unfinished comment.

[@fiasc0b0x]

Agreed. I hear his words as expanding the convo to include ALL adults (both direct abusers and enablers) having a responsibility and choices to make in order to protect children. Parents who aren't involved/observant get smoke. Predators get smoke. Anyone who doesn't speak up and/or stop abuse gets smoke.

[@LizA-ry4nb]

He started off the conversation questioning them suggesting they had a double standard so reasonably I understand why Karen called him out because they made it clear that parents should be aware but too often parents become escape goat vs the predator

[@KimmieB1993]

@25:48 Two things can be true is what I think the caller was saying. Diddy can be held accountable for his actions as well as the parents for sending their children to live with a music producer. I can't believe someone on the panel described it as sending your child to basketball camp. That's NOT the same thing. Usher's parents also had a duty to protect their child by not putting them in this situation.

[@cpcCA]

I can’t believe Karen would disagree. Funny, do people even lesson to the lyrics these recording producers be putting out. Children should not be in a adult environment without the parents. Remind me when Serena father had to check a reporter in a interview. Thanks goodness he was there.

[@tynece8594]

Karen is not wrong. Folks inability to place blame on predatory adults is a problem in the Black community. The adults knows fully the difference between rightand wrong. Messing with children is wrong full stop. They also know that they have a predilection to children so they need to take steps to not be around children especially alone since they act like they can't control it.

[@TexasChick45]

*And, it's ALWAYS the black community protecting thr predators and blaming the victims* !!!

[@ramseyphdone6926]

Not only paw paw and uncle and dem....Aunties have also abused their nieces and nephews.

[@TheErikaShow]

I am not proud to say people close to me suffer this same mindset. I have been working on them…mainly to maintain my own sanity. I am so tired of it…it has been ending in arguments. I don’t care. I call it out every time until they figure it out (at least around me). My tolerance for victim blaming has dropped BELOW 0.👎🏾✊🏾

[@agro-valleyfarm7217]

Responsibility has to be on both sides-the abusers and the greedy parents who put their children in harm's way to get money. If you let a fox into a hen's house what's it's going to do -take care of the chickens.

[@billycarr1254]

Karen jumped thw gun. I love her 99.99% of the time, but she twisted the brother's words to fit the prevailing narrative. The caller's arguement is no different than the prosecutor's charging the parents of the mass shooter. There arw times when consenting, guardians have some level of culpability and should be held responsible... not for what they did, but for what they knowingly or unknowingly allowed. In that case, the school is next. Thw caller was right, multiple people can be responsible and nobody is defending any of them!

[@KarenHunterShow]

I didn't. I've been doing this long enough to know what's happening.

[@TexasChick45]

Karen "jumped the gun with" what? That's exactly how that called was acting.

[@gabemcknight8933]

​@@KarenHunterShow you still wet between the ears

[@agro-valleyfarm7217]

So why don't you allow the callers to make their point instead of cutting them off because they are NOT seeing things your way.@@KarenHunterShow

[@KarenHunterShow]

@@agro-valleyfarm7217 nope. That's not the vibe. I'm not allowing ANYONE to spew the kind of energy that harms other. Period. Zero tolerance. Get your thoughts together. Make your comment RELEVANT to what we're discussing. If you have a "different" opinion, state that cogently. Don't obfuscate and attempt to distract from the core of what we are discussing. and yes, these are the rules of engagement. It's a privilege, not a right.

[@pixiestrixie3543]

In my family’s case- it was the priests - Irish American Brooklyn immigrant community (How The Irish Became White, important book)but when our mothers put blind faith into the church, the medical establishment and the police and government- they lost their children to the trauma of abuse and the continuation of the genetics of trauma, Irish style. Hence, adult children in various stages of hurting themselves and others.

[@eggedon6112]

Sexual Assault of children is normalized in America. Look into Childhood PTSD, and learn how trauma causes problems throughout one's life.

[@reneegraham2201]

@@eggedon6112who normalizes it, ppl are now talking about because they were scared

[@eggedon6112]

@@reneegraham2201 As I said, Google Childhood PTSD, then you will learn who does it.

[@eggedon6112]

@@reneegraham2201 Google Childhood PTSD and learn all about it...

[@snuffa.luffagus7588]

Parents are to be blamed too

[@shango4890]

Right. Why did she cut him off and acted like he was trying to defend Puffy. She even admitted that parents traffic their kids, so why all that toward the caller? You didn't even say that to the idiot before who actually was defending puffy. It seems like you're ok with Parents selling their kids for fame Karen.

[@KarenHunterShow]

here you are again...hmm.

[@muadhnate]

Parents can do everything right and a child can still be prayed upon. Even if the child comes from a family with absentee parents, it doesn't allow the other adults to harm those kids. And when we learn that someone has been harming children, unless the parents are simply neglectful and requires intervention, the FOCUS needs to be on the predator. This knee jerk reaction to blame the parents is simply the black community trying to cover for predators.

[@madant22]

Some parents know what’s going on and they still will sell out their own children for the American dollar. Mothers serving up their daughters to make the family money and get them rich. People forget when The parents of Gary Coleman from Different Strokes was stealing Gary’s money as a child. This Holly-weird entertainment industry stuff been going on for years. Parents are to blame.

[@madant22]

In the Jungle with animals. When a adult animal has its young? Who job is it too protect their young to be eating by predators? The predators or the parents? If you and your young are the prey, how can you make it the predator’s responsibility to not eat you alive and your kids? You as a parents need to protect your young who are defenseless as prey.

[@tiffanyspencer2782]

I've always known that I never wanted to get married or have kids. I hate it when people question me. They call me selfish & say I hate kids. That's not true & I tell them, that in my opinion, most ppl aren't happy in their marriages, they don't treat their kids well & don't deserve them. They want the picture of a family, but when they have to do the work, they look at their lives & think WTF did I do?!? Exactly! 😂 It shows & then they're stuck. A friend of mine came over w/her kids. She told me that she felt sorry for me. I asked why & she said bc I'm not married & don't have kids. I said you come to my house for peace. You're here to talk abt your sorry azz husband & your bad azz kids. I'm good, but clearly you're not! I then asked her to wrangle her kids & leave so I could get back to my peace. The NERVE. That's called HATIN!

[@rwilson4991]

I love your comments. There is a strong freedom when we choose to be with ourselves without a partner and without children. It is a choice and it does take a strong and resilient mindset to be at peace and happy with oneself in what appears to be an unpeaceful and unhappy world. So thank you for your comments. I do have peace and I love it. I have myself and I love her.

[@tiffanyspencer2782]

@@rwilson4991 Talk yo $hit! We're fine. They're the ones who wish we had what we have.

[@tiffanyanderson9437]

Thank you for this crucial discussion.

[@judithmccrea2601]

ALL the women in the world are NOT LYING!

[@sonnychiba3529]

Now "ALL the women in the world" are experiencing this? ALL OF THEM? I'm with you if proven beyond a reasonable doubt. But, I have to question it because is seems as if we're so really quick to send another brother to jail off of an accusation and as a man thats scary.....

[@evelynfuller2086]

Thank you 😂

[@56sstewart]

There are many females and males that have a story to tell of someone's subtle or overt predatory behavior, perpetrated on them from childhood and beyond, and they just live with the memories.

[@yesmayhem]

Please notice there men in here too. You do remember the industry is primarily male?

[@tynece8594]

The only reason people are hellbent on saying the parents is because they do not want to hold their favorite celebrity fully accountable

[@muadhnate]

Thank you. I understand his point, but teenagers can lie about where they're going and who they are with. It doesn't absolve the adults around them of responsibility to keep them protected.

[@KimmieB1993]

Not true. Diddy must be held accountable and parents must be protective of their children.

[@tynece8594]

@KimmieB1993 your assumption is that they aren't already. People send their kids to places all the time and they do not do it knowing their kids will be violated. SA happens at schools, camps, churches and I could go on. So kids can't go anywhere anymore? Your narrative is based on you believing that the parents are selling their kids into this abuse and that in essence is not holding these adult celebrities accountable.

[@tnhankins1]

Exactly, it's crazy how folks wanna turn a blind eye. We need to call it out!

[@TexasChick45]

Exactly!!!!

[@pixiestrixie3543]

Painful, yet important. Thanks to you wonderful lovelies for talking the difficulties ❤

[@ejr87r]

Thank You for this conversation.

[@scroogemcduckrich9705]

People don’t realize this is a reason why bad things happened to use as Black men. We abuse our women defile and degrade our women… we perpetually curse ourselves women are to be exalted

[@Bosay831Gaming]

It ain't just the black community and this behavior is NOT NORMAL for our community. This stuff comes from the oppressors. Living in a corrupt land follow along and moving how they move. MFs love to talk about the illuminati. The defilement of Black and brown youth is the true illuminati

[@agro-valleyfarm7217]

It goes the other way too-look at the role of women in HIP-HOP and what they portray.

[@Bosay831Gaming]

@@agro-valleyfarm7217 Yep, and Black culture is not monolithic. What is promoted in popular culture is more of what they think we are or should be then what we really are.

[@kimichele1908]

This happens from/in all levels in society- from the poorest to the richest, in education & churches. I'm so glad you're having this discussion. More, please! Because there are many Georges & Georgettes out there.

[@nobullzone8394]

One thing that I've noticed in several podcasts are men coming up and defending Diddy and victim shaming the young teenage high school girls who may have lied about the age the point being these are kids Diddy knew better just like R Kelly knew better what are they really saying it really says a lot about them to go out of their way to defend a pedophile you would have to ask the question are they fathers are they grandfathers are they uncles it's just asinine when it comes to the lack of accountability some of our men folk display and women folk display in the black community when it comes to topics such as this they need to do better but in order to do better they would have to be a critical thinker and have some kind of moral compass! Smh

[@KarenHunterShow]

tell it!

[@ReinventingEnergyAndLove]

🙏🏿 Amen❤

[@TheErikaShow]

🎯The intellectual dishonesty is infuriating.

[@carrieraupp757]

Karen I loved how your righteous indignation was loud and clear 🧨

[@falviagee2767]

I want to know who is Diddy's accountant -- follow the money,

[@TheErikaShow]

💯 The money fills in a lot of blanks with a guy like that! I would LOVE to see his financials (forensic accountant in my past life?😂)

[@Aeon1019]

Same accountant that was holding Britney Spears hostage in the Guardianship scheme, Same accountant for the Kluk Kardishians Klan etc aka Infamous ROBIN GREENHILL .... its deeper than what's been told. ...

[@tiffanyanderson9437]

The IRS is starting to look into who greenlit his parties and his banks are demanding payment on his multiple mortgages.

[@kamauyakini768]

Good conversation. As a senior citizen it is gratifying to know what I wasn’t always aware of I could still learn. Especially about women’s sensibility. Thank you for sharing your insight and knowledge. It will be forever prized by me. Bravo!

[@sheldonmarcotte8392]

In our community we tend to hold a guilt because back during slavery , we weren't able to protect an innocent slave that was getting beaten. Now because of the trauma when we see someone black going under the fire we feel it's our job to be a superhero and protect them at all cost. Even if it's one that would throw our community in boiling lava without hesitation. we need to learn how to vet people. Also, we have to not fall for celebrity, especially if they look like us. I'm all for forgiveness but if it's recurring something heinous, I'm done. Not all skinfolk is kinfolk , and that's okay!

[@Fortune332]

Stop relating everything to slavery. This is why we are seen as victims. It’s sad

[@judahrise5022]

​@@Fortune332I will keep talking about slavery till CHRIST RETURNS!!! COWARD!!!

[@staraysha2117]

My proactive actions made me have to walk away from my entire immediate family. Walking away from a mother is the hardest thing to do.

[@100BlaQRaok.el_1]

Depending on your experiences, which are not limited to you, sometimes it comes to that😎❤️

[@williwombat1066]

What do you say so someone who doesn't believe? Simple. Call them delusional. It is disgusting how folk put people on pedestals like this.

[@kathybingham9940]

Excellent conversation. We need more of this in the public discourse.

[@bunandcheese4445]

I just don’t understand why ppl would advise that monster to flee the country. He must face justice, not flee to another country to perpetuate the same evil behaviour.

[@joycemobley9430]

Hard conversation but powerful. Much respect and appreciation to the panel

[@KarenHunterShow]

thank you.

[@BrinaDoc]

You are Appreciated, Professor Hunter & Panel 👊🏽❤✌🏽❤ 2:19

[@anight8661]

Much needed conversation. Thank you all.

[@htbald1]

FINALLY SOMEBODY TOUCHED ON WHERE KIDS REALLY NEED TO BE PROTECTED, CHURCH!!!!

[@negusx8806]

She str8 PAUSEd that brother wouldnt let him speak then said he PIVOTED. Just cut the brother off...

[@Theinfamouskiki411]

Because he changing the subject

[@negusx8806]

@@Theinfamouskiki411 kinda hard to tell, as he never had a chance to express his point

[@negusx8806]

@@Theinfamouskiki411 I mean it's all documented right here...

[@agro-valleyfarm7217]

Delusional and hypocritical-that's what she is

[@kokikodevereaux4932]

People put the onest on the parents because they can't identify with sending your child to a musician; however, everyday parents send their children with adults who can harm them and they trust that they won't. It really is not very different. We don't expect our children to be harmed. Most of these parents are trying to help their children. Unfortunately, these men sound like predators, and we look towards them as protectors.

[@scroogemcduckrich9705]

why is the 1st go to is cruelty, abuse and degeneracy when these people get rich

[@galaxylucia1898]

Because it was always in them. Money and (perceived) power just AMPLIFIES who you are, not change you.

[@karlculpepper]

Very sad situation indeed! Diddy should have used his success to uplift and inspire people especially people of color. I pray that he changes his life for the better. If all these allegations are indeed true then he never really accomplished anything in life. Let’s keep Diddy in prayer and also prayer for all the victims involved 🙏🏽

[@Jtbmf]

Facts 😮

[@karlculpepper]

@@Jtbmf 💯

[@TheErikaShow]

He could have changed entertainment in the good way. A waste, indeed.

[@karlculpepper]

@@TheErikaShow Agree 💯 you are so right! It’s gonna be sad 😞 if this is how it ends for him!

[@majr6852]

What Karen can't seem to comprehend is that you CAN hold the abuser accountable AND still not absolve the parents for putting their children in that situation, they're not mutually exclusive...

[@KarenHunterShow]

I completely comprehend...just not entertaining that in the midst of THIS conversation. Let's have this discussion before muddying the waters.

[@agro-valleyfarm7217]

Your'e not balanced in your thinking-you can't be right and wrong at the same time. A balanced discussion is NOT a monologue.@@KarenHunterShow

[@KarenHunterShow]

@@agro-valleyfarm7217 Balanced? There is no both sides to pedophilia and sexual abuse. Period.

[@agro-valleyfarm7217]

Don't try to mis-represent or put your words on my lip you very very well know what I'm talking about. You Karen only want people to put all the blame on these weirdo black celebrities and not hold the the so-called parents ACCOUNTABLE for exposing their children to these pedophiles like Aalilah and Usher parents. @@KarenHunterShow

[@amaradominique]

Most Parents don’t put their kids in harms way.

[@TirraOmilade]

Thank you all for speaking truth to power!!!

[@micheleholley1070]

Professor Karen, Dr. Koritha Mitchell is spot on, I have been called "selfish" because I don't have children, I have also been told I have too much freedom, I been told I have an attitude because I did not like men flirting with me. I have had a Church woman tell me "women where made for men". Professor Karen did segment was very much needed.

[@reneebrown7733]

Indeed, trafficking at all levels needs to be addressed.

[@karenbishop1943]

Mariah Carey and Tommy Mottola's relationship comes to mind due the the age difference when she married him.

[@Reikiht56]

I walked into the house one day and my daughter (now 42) was sitting on my ex-husbands friend's lap. That was fixed on the spot, and my ex saw the "angry black woman" in me later. As for Jenny from the block...Karma, karma, karma!

[@annemoody1548]

All these artists need to be prosecuted. Steven Tyler (Aerosmith)wrote about pining after a “woman” in his autobiography… she was a teenager. Let’s not even talk about Woody Allen with his nasty behind. Walking around FREE. Get them ALL. Y’all have choppers flying and handcuffs quick for black artists. Get them ALL

[@Theinfamouskiki411]

The point is in our own families people let these disgusting men get away with this. People have NO idea. Look up Nth room

[@TexasChick45]

Speaking of Tyler wasn't the little girl 13 yrs old?!...Lord have mercy!!!

[@buildbigwithben]

All adults are guilty...mother's, father's & the predators both male & female for being negligent & immoral...Also, Us as a people have lost our true cultural identity & traditions that protected us from immoralities like this...those predators were once children... So now, how do we as parents & adults reestablish righteous "black" culture that will teach our children to not become predators.

[@deborahbrown1753]

In the black community, many years ago families believed in the words sweep the situation under the rugs and they passed that down like a generation Baton with a lot of ancestral fear so many just did what they said to do even if you knew they were wrong for telling you to be quiet 🤫 fast foward to the days we are living in now, social media have become most peoples safe place for information and knowledge Its a new day, and people are trying to stand up for their self and help others to stand up, speak up, and tell your truth Its not easy to stand up to a predator that you may know or not know. Diddy have probably delt with a predator as a child for this to be such a high profile situation in his life 30+ years of terrible negative energy he have exemplified before the world. Look how he fled and left his boys. That's a big example of he dont care about anyone Ushers' mother allowed her child to go away for a year , without parental guidance, you heard Usher say he wouldn't send his children so thats enough said Karen as always Thank you for the open dialog ❤

[@sheldonmarcotte8392]

He was also friends with Trump, who was friends with Epstein.

[@lamak0925]

I think there is a difference between boarding school and a stay with a professional mentor. Boarding schools have educational professionals who are mandated reporters charged with looking out for the students. Who is the mandated reporter or child advocate present when a child is spending all this time with accomplished professionals for mentorship. So saying that the parents are the first line of defense for the child is not excusing the predator but is exploring all the levels of protection that break down that make it so that these things can happen. Parents don't send your children to be in circumstances where there are no mandated reporters or child advocates present at all times.

[@Theinfamouskiki411]

I agree..no way im sending my kids off period. Parents will sacrifice their kids

[@arethawalker1724]

And we thought Suge Knight was the one to fear......No one is talking about Diddy, even now with all the allegations.

[@KwameInnis]

Excellent talk Dr. I’m totally on board, I just want to point out sexual abuse victims are not only female. The abusers are not only men. Please 🙏🏿 don’t leave out the abuse of boys at the hands of men or women.

[@TheErikaShow]

Karen actually has given entire shows to the topic. From what I’ve seen, she shines an unbiased light. 🙂

[@books6000]

@@TheErikaShowDon’t respond to him he is shifting the narrative. This is primary example of changing the subject so men cannot be accountable. All men especially BM fail to admit that MEN are the overwhelming abusers in all communities. Women and girls are not believed anywhere but especially the Black community.

[@roselewis8873]

Can we get some hardcore evidence about these alleged crimes before we in the public convict him..

[@aliciastalksessions]

Awesome convo ladies ..

[@Queen-of-the-Burbs]

The man towards the end wasn’t defending it. He was saying that parents shouldn’t let their kid go live with someone else. Doesn’t mean the abuser is exempt at all.

[@whatnow9540]

I think a lot of times we forget that as a community (black folks) we are not that far removed from the systems that "kept us in our place" a lot of people still take advantage of that mindset. Women who were children from that era are still stuck in that mindset. I have to remind my mother all the time that it is ok for her to say no to anything she does not want to do, she is 92 and still feels like it is being rude or impolite, or even "ungodly" to say no to people regardless of what they are asking for. But most of us have that creepy Uncle or family friend that we won't leave our children in the room with. I remember a scene in a Tyler Perry movie where they were at a pic-nic and the old men wanted the girl in the shorts to "go deeper" into the bottom of the barrel to get them a cold drink. I wonder how many people when they saw that scene cringed at it, or did they just laugh it off as a funny scene in a movie with a bunch of creepy old men? We been dealing with this for a long time. It's gonna take a while to be redeemed from that mentality.

[@TexasChick45]

Women like your mother are dangerous, no offense.

[@michelleplaskoff9920]

This goes much further than the music industry

[@SheriffofYouTube]

what about Oprah

[@tabkins]

Let’s not forget the everyday people who support the market for trafficking. I would like that to be a part of the conversation.

[@003cbanks]

Karen I like you but you are being bias when it comes down to holding the parents responsible as well

[@KarenHunterShow]

bias? against?

[@003cbanks]

@@KarenHunterShow puffy environment always has always been bad and parents have to make better decisions about where their child should spend it

[@osunlade-daphne2598]

My opinion: Karen is not denying that there are any parents who literally sell/sacrifice their children. She’s trying to not allow folks to do what commonly happens in these situations, which is coddle, protect, and infantilize Black men. Folks seem to never be able to say, “pedophilia is wrong, predatory behavior is wrong, harming children is wrong.” It’s always, but what about this, what about that, what about the parents?!

[@rayy4pres194]

15:45 the entertainment industry has been NOTORIOUS for abusing women and children. That is a known known and has been for decades! Any parent leaving their children with strangers promising them success and training is negligent at best, willing participants at worst. No excuse.

[@marcinafaithalbert6841]

Love these sistas!! Great conversation with Black women speaking LIFE!!!

[@p.harvey4401]

Great coverage,Professor Hunter and guests

[@jeannieherbert2215]

So Awesome to see the Strong African Women having this conversation.. also remember this crazy behavior starts at home.. This was supposed to be a Holy Week for the World..

[@craigwilliams7076]

Karen I love you❤❤

[@janiemarshall7928]

Ladies. Tonight !!! Each of you, we're in my brain. To the point where you (each) said to male caller 📞 exactly what I was thinking. Brava Queens 🖤🖤🖤. "Say it with your chest".

[@SjgGoodBooks]

COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THE AHMAUD AUBREY CASE, PLEASE!! THE THREE WHITE GUYS ARE TRYING TO GET THE FEDERAL HATE CRIME CONVICTION OVER

[@زينب44]

Finally this is what is missing in this discourse. Love this ladies.

[@warrengeti5493]

Enuff!! When are we going to Washington and get our check.

[@davidmolina7543]

This is a cogent,probing, Transparent conversation about a subject that in the past was taboo and got swept under the table. Good job ladies thank you.

[@Danuta628]

Kyla you just hit the nail on the head. That is exactly right… Cosby and powerful individuals who build up the public persona is in fact the perfect cover for them to cross these lines and BONUS get away with it for sooo long !

[@htbald1]

GREAT STREAM! Watching how some blk folks are using the " they tryin' to take down a blk man" trope already knowing a lot of what he might have done and ALL of the rumors that are out there, was seriously disappointing! I really don't understand why a lot of us just can't admit to the degeneracy of some blk folk?

[@bigfamsmusic]

This is a hard, painful watch. But truly necessary. Thank you as always for your magnitude in crating a better world.

[@kimwilliams388]

Thank you ladies for this conversation. Little girls have had to try to navigate these situations for centuries in America and the world.

[@zazabrown732]

Little girls and little boys

[@KarenHunterShow]

yup. especially little boys because they have a double burden of shame in this society.

[@o._c.]

@@KarenHunterShowMany people are not aware that it splits down the middle 49 and 51% that both young girls and boys are molested equally. Boys are shamed from talking about it.

[@sammyoc1973]

Thank God I found this platform, you ladies said everything I have been feeling and I have been called an unruly woman. To these men I am less than.

[@crecasens]

I love the way Karen calls out the shenanigans that these would be good intentioned callers call in to distract you!

[@rebeccalara4982]

Thank you ❤🪶

[@vickiebonner4181]

this is why I loved my mother so. she was a product of the incest and considered a curse😢 she raised us to not be alone with any man especially my dad and his male relatives

[@vickiebonner4181]

we are a sick cancerous entity in this universe 😢

[@awash47774]

Food for thought on holding parent accountable. I don't think people know how to verablize it, but parents should cover their kids, educate or condition them to know better. Sexual promiscuity is rampart in this country and around the world, consenual and nonconsenual. Thus, how do we combat it? Issues: 1. Underage sex. 2. Statutory rape. 3. Victimization (several areas that can be discussed).

[@donaldwhitaker]

My comments are based on my personal experience. Your panel consists of very educated women that I respect. I was speaking in code somewhat. I lost my wife kids ,home almost my on reputation, because I some up and was placed under an order of protection my a closed family member to protect themselves. It was women on one side doing things and a man on the other side. To save my kids I had to backoff. I'm forever changed by this tragedy in my life 24 yrs later. But no one believed me.

[@Venus-er9ng]

Don't forget to include forced hysterectomies as well

[@eg3186]

Regular working men go to countries doing this just disgusting.

[@nakiapatterson6608]

Real talk, it's time to change as a community.

[@kayw5562]

I could be wrong, I believe what is being said. Cassie, Toure' and Usher said it all for me! I pray for all the victims. In time all will come out.

[@JackieLastrada]

*There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.* Deuteronomy 18:10 Looks like somebody’s parents missed this verse. 😏 Gotta keep it real in here people.

[@YesMayhem7]

Trafficking is just a scaled up hustle for most folks. And you know no one is going to complain about a hustle. Black "Communities" and Countries sees divestment and predatory practices as opportunities.

[@judithmccrea2601]

We look at people as a commodity. Same as slavery.😢

[@nguday2003]

I appreciate the discussion and as I see how widespread this Diddy case is it makes so much sense that the Me Too Movement - albeit started by a Black woman but co-opted got so much push back. I think we need a reckoning. I think this discussion should take place in every sector of society. I also think we need to create a truth and reconciliation type space for people to heal and be transparent and have community spaces for healing for the victim and what about the perpertrator. Our systems do not rehabilitate so i think that has to be a community process, but looking at all we're facing, I'm not sure it will be embraced, nor do i think there is enough energy to go to it as opposed to all the other ways Black folks are being targeted. I will say, as a young person growing up who hip hop was supposedly an expression of my life, I think critical thinking skills are crucial and who are people pushing back against a corporate-backed "community leader" vs organic, community-led leaders. But it's a whole network of people that supported and promoted lifestyle, food, drink, on and on and on.

[@floydg16]

There are a lot of people scared right now what was pulled out that house. Hell Diddy was with entertainers, preachers, presidents ECT. Make me wonder about Clive Davis.

[@derrekjones2129]

Talk about it Ms. Hunter!!!!!! Now hold all of accountable for complicity in viewing and watching porn…male and female…a multi-billion dollar industry. Where do you think the commodities come from????

[@tysgem7]

Hi Karen, great discussion this go round as usual. At the 24:00 mark where the caller discusses whether or not a parent should really consider sending their child across the country to a diddy camp I get his point. You also were to quick to not hear the brother out initially. As a parent living in these conditions and after having raised 2 daughters, parents have to question and re question anything related to our kids nowadays. Even when I give consent I’m always one step in the mix, calls, emails m, WhatsApp groups etc etc I don’t trust anyone w my kids, expect the unexpected and prepare to pivot 24/7. It also gives me a better understanding of why my parents didn’t allow me to attend sleepovers. How many times in this call have we mentioned the perverted uncle, cousin babysitter professor etc etc. we have to keep our eyes OPEN and show the kids how to do the same. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@ms2bloved126]

This was a conversation that needed to be had. Thank you Ladies 🎉

[@gbarrett123]

As Karen always says..When you know better you have to do better!

[@yesmayhem]

Two things; stuck in historic racialized sexual humiliation and underworld crime culture.

[@ReinventingEnergyAndLove]

I so love the Karen Hunter Show! ❤ This is such a powerful program. Humanity First!✊🏿 PAY ATTENTION!!!!!!

[@aliciaknott8109]

Excellent conversation. What the one brother fell to understand is people with power know folks in powerful positions. When individuals try an report its falls on death earsl. In the Black community we have to stop the victimization of victims.

[@negusx8806]

WoW!! Hes accused of sa against men and women. It seems that anyone advocating, with regards to this particular case, for 1 sex is divisive.