Are We Witnessing The Downfall Of Mercedes Mone / Sasha Banks?

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@Sharad-e6h
@Sharad-e6h 18 күн бұрын
That interview she did on Broken Skull showed me a side to her that turned me off. She came off very arrogant and full of herself and that to me was in poor taste.
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 18 күн бұрын
Totally agree with you 👍
@stuartreid5387
@stuartreid5387 17 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly!!
@nickkelly7926
@nickkelly7926 18 күн бұрын
I am not a fan of anyone that thinks they are better than the business that made them
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 18 күн бұрын
Fantastic point 👍
@mr.awesome6011
@mr.awesome6011 19 күн бұрын
It's night and day how everyone feels about her since almost a decade ago.
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 19 күн бұрын
Absolutely. I personally thought she was great in NXT and early on in her career on the main roster.
@david-p8e6o
@david-p8e6o 11 күн бұрын
@@TopTurnbucklePodcast she will always be great
@UncleRukus-m2o
@UncleRukus-m2o 5 күн бұрын
@mr.awesome6011 naw in wwe she only cut put a classic with Charlotte Charlotte iyo trinity uso bianca rhea cut put a classic on by accident 😂 🤣
@jjohnson4013
@jjohnson4013 15 күн бұрын
Ever since she left the WWE she became a drama queen she think she better then everyone cant even cut a promo
@smoogles.5534
@smoogles.5534 18 күн бұрын
never a fan of hers something is off about her
@michaelbison871
@michaelbison871 15 күн бұрын
I agree 100 % on what was said in this video about Mercedes Mone. She has a huge ego and her as a wrestler and person are one and the same. Triple H said this about the women in the wrestling business that they tend to have a much bigger ego then the male wrestler's. Sable, Sunny and Chyna to name a few. I was a big fan of Sasha Banks and not so much of her in AEW. 👎🏽‼️👎🏽‼️👎🏽‼️👎🏽‼️
@jjohnson4013
@jjohnson4013 15 күн бұрын
Her ego and thinks she better then every one is what making her being dislike
@gbej1
@gbej1 18 күн бұрын
She underestimated the power of Michael Cole saying “IT’S BOSS TIME”! Without that, I’m afraid she is bang average
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 18 күн бұрын
It seems that way since she has been in AEW. 👍
@stevenvigil4831
@stevenvigil4831 17 күн бұрын
To be fair any wrestler who goes to AEW is a downfall.
@stuartreid5387
@stuartreid5387 17 күн бұрын
Sadly, it seems to be the way
@CATRINA-r2e
@CATRINA-r2e 17 күн бұрын
Except for Cody Rhodes
@ZooLakesFinest
@ZooLakesFinest 16 күн бұрын
Swerve "upgraded" and he's "getting paid"
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 16 күн бұрын
We love Swerve! 👍👍
@mikemadsen7926
@mikemadsen7926 12 күн бұрын
​@@CATRINA-r2e cody,s Rhodes aew run was a nightmare. Aew fans completely disrespected him and his wife and booed them out the organization
@ShinSCDL70
@ShinSCDL70 17 күн бұрын
It's not the downfall, more like the devaluation ($)
@stuartreid5387
@stuartreid5387 17 күн бұрын
Yeah pretty spot on
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 17 күн бұрын
Fantastic point and a much more articulate way of putting it than we did 👍
@AziaXtremeNFinity
@AziaXtremeNFinity 12 күн бұрын
Bianca Belair is a bigger star than her all of her credibility and popularity rubbed off on the EST when she beat her at Wrestlemania 37
@sultanofwrestling
@sultanofwrestling 18 күн бұрын
As a HUGE Sasha/Mercedes fan for 9 years now, her work in AEW has been unsavory & lackluster from the promos, stories, matches & even simple things as visage such as gear, etc. I think if she had chosen to re-sign with WWE under the HHH regime or continue her work in Japan from last year, which was critically acclaimed by many. She’s coasted or even worse regressed as a performer. She just doesn’t have the same drive or passion I feel & it’s reflecting in her AEW work. WWE hid her weaknesses very well but AEW like with many people on their roster, they expose their weaknesses & continue to do so. Mercedes is just another victim of a uber popular WWE star moving to AEW & feeling like a complete afterthought. At least her contract in AEW goes til 2026 & I’m hopeful she can set the aside her pride in how much she’s getting payed & chooses to salvage the legacy she made for herself by going back to WWE. M
@sultanofwrestling
@sultanofwrestling 18 күн бұрын
Another thing to add, she’s always been confident in her abilities if you’ve watched her interviews going back to 2015/2016 & rightfully so. Sometimes she can come across as hubris & way in over her head. Atleast she backed it up in WWE & even in her short Japan run. However, her recent work is abysmal & the same attitude she has as an individual is rubbing people the wrong way now because she’s not backing it up. Actions speak louder than words.
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 18 күн бұрын
Could not agree with these points any more! Great comment 👍
@gmont28
@gmont28 17 күн бұрын
Prime example of why to not give creatibe control
@mikemadsen7926
@mikemadsen7926 12 күн бұрын
She definitely lost some of her passion she more of an influencer now that just wears fancy clothes and poses for pics. Tk gave her the ability to ball out without having to actually work much while chasing a non existent Hollywood career
@Mrwonderful0212
@Mrwonderful0212 12 күн бұрын
@@sultanofwrestlingidk man. By 2026, I think wwe will be a very different place and she may have a tougher time finding her footing. Wwe has some monsters in nxt and some women on the main roster who I think are going to be major players by 2026 if she were to go back. Lash legend, Jaida Parker, Tiffany Stratton, Lola Vice, Giulia, Zaria, Stephanie Vaquer. And they may still have Rhea, Jade, Bianca and Liv. Maybe she’d be better off in aew where she’d definitely make more money. Plus, there’s no way in hell wwe is giving her creative control like Aew did.
@ozziaheeyote3861
@ozziaheeyote3861 14 күн бұрын
Her ego and personality had gotten worse overtime since stepping out of wwe.
@tremere40k
@tremere40k 18 күн бұрын
I say we have. She has not help build up anyone. Pretty sure she injured Julia Hart and Ski blue,
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 17 күн бұрын
I think this is a good point, building up other talent when you have over a decade of experience and success is so important especially with a relatively new company like AEW 👍
@BrandivaMcDark
@BrandivaMcDark 16 күн бұрын
​@@TopTurnbucklePodcast at least the other 3 horsewomen help build others.
@wallyb430
@wallyb430 17 күн бұрын
Ego or not imma still think bout her nonstop, this women is my pro wrestling goat
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 17 күн бұрын
Good! Nothing wrong with that! Different opinions are what we want and respect here!👍 If she is your G.O.A.T support her, think about her all the time 🤣👍Go for it! 👍👍
@wallyb430
@wallyb430 17 күн бұрын
@ gracias , she is a real icon
@johnnyF5020
@johnnyF5020 17 күн бұрын
I agree I love her for life
@jamesbatten9854
@jamesbatten9854 2 күн бұрын
A video like this about the Wyatt Sicks would be great. They had that great debut and then... NOTHING! Uninteresting feuds with jobbers is an awful follow up to that debut.
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 2 күн бұрын
We can do that 👍 I love the Wyatt Sicks but at the moment I think you definitely have a point, 👍
@Khashmonet
@Khashmonet 18 күн бұрын
I order for there to be a downfall there must first be a rise.
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 18 күн бұрын
I hope your right 👍👍
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 14 күн бұрын
She's already peaked. Going back to WWE and re-aligning (or entering a storyline) with Bayley would've done her less harm.
@DistantMoonchild
@DistantMoonchild 16 күн бұрын
I’m a huge Mercedes fan and I’m so disappointed in the way she’s been booked. I like her carrying on the whole Boss gimmick by just renaming it, but I feel like she needs a twist to it. She needs to evolve in dramatic ways akin to Becky Lynch. Something I think of a lot for a good evolution story is: She needs to lose her titles one by one, start to question her pedigree, have story where she’s going on a spending binge and dodging her scheduled appearances, we find out she’s kayfabe going broke, her mind starts to warp and her ego begins cracking. We then get a promo (a callback to the birth of The Boss, where Summer Rae questioned her place in NXT) of her sitting at a mirror all alone, staring at herself and talking to herself in a whispered craze. She applies her old red lipstick, accidentally misses her lip line, become hysterical and screams. She gets up to take her stiletto off and throws it into the mirror, shattering it. She looks at the broken vanity, the top desk and floor all covered in shards, and slowly backs away with a demented grin, holding the sides of her face in shock. That would be great set up for a twisted delusional Success Guru story for Mercedes. It would be such a fun and campy way to get her over again. I don’t think she realizes that she’s reached a plateau creatively and that it’s hurting her brand. I wouldn’t even mind her doing the same stuff as she has been for the past 10 years, but she’s been heavily diluted since joining AEW. They are killing the whole CEO/Boss thing the way they’re booking her currently.
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 16 күн бұрын
I like this idea, although I am not a fan of her personally, I used to be massively during her NXT and early main roster run in WWE. 👍 I do respect her talent ,other fans opinions of Mercedes and wish her all the best 👍 Just like every Wrestler in the business 👍
@gregoryfuller9736
@gregoryfuller9736 2 күн бұрын
Becky is better then Sasha now and been better since 2018 but Sasha was better then Becky on nxt so Sasha fans just assume she better but Becky got better and Sasha stay the same
@gj003f6898
@gj003f6898 18 күн бұрын
WWE have Jade Cargill on their payroll now. I doubt they'd consider having Mone back.
@stuartreid5387
@stuartreid5387 17 күн бұрын
Brilliant answer!!
@david-p8e6o
@david-p8e6o 16 күн бұрын
@@stuartreid5387 not brilliant at all
@stuartreid5387
@stuartreid5387 16 күн бұрын
@@david-p8e6o why is that?
@jjohnson4013
@jjohnson4013 15 күн бұрын
They dont need her they have a stack NXT woman roster they can call up.
@david-p8e6o
@david-p8e6o 15 күн бұрын
@@jjohnson4013 yea sure
@hanasong1519
@hanasong1519 12 күн бұрын
Her going back too wwe wouldn't do anything for her. The company already moved on to better woman taking her spot and they never paying Mercedes whatever TK is paying her now.
@DouglasFelts
@DouglasFelts 10 күн бұрын
lol. “The downfall of Mercedes money/Sasha Banks” Since when was being a champion in any company a downfall? What a dork thing to say.
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 10 күн бұрын
First of all if you listen to the video and the discussion only one of the people have the opinion that she has no qualities as a talent or a draw, an opinion they are entitled to on a subjective subject. The other individual feels she is talented but her real life attitude which in a world where social media is so influential does have an impact her actions such as her attitude towards fans alongside interviews she has done AS MERCEDES VARNADO appear arrogant and this has damaged her career. The titles she has currently are ARGUABLY for some secondary titles and for the money she is on and the influence she has had she has not had the desired impact many would expect... This is a member of the four horsewomen that you would expect to be a needle mover, so far for many that has not been the case and they entitled to their opinion... As much as you are. That is the point of a discussion or debate. 👍
@jjohnson4013
@jjohnson4013 8 күн бұрын
@@TopTurnbucklePodcast i agree with you she never was a draw the other horse woman all got over then her had a longer title run then her and they all could cut a promo she became a drama queen back stage walk out of the WWE two times becuase she was not talk about she was just a mid card wrestlier other woman were just better then her
@jonjohnson445
@jonjohnson445 18 күн бұрын
So does Mercedes Mone have heat? Yeet?
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 18 күн бұрын
Wrestling heat? Or actual hate?.... YEET? 🤣👍
@jonjohnson445
@jonjohnson445 17 күн бұрын
@TopTurnbucklePodcast Either, but one seems obvious.
@Quicktwosteps
@Quicktwosteps 18 күн бұрын
More arrogant than MJF?
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 18 күн бұрын
Good question! I feel they are equal as characters. I feel that MJF lives that character and stays in his character for interviews etc..etc. I feel the difference is maybe nobody knows the real MJF? Additionally MJF is deep down in my opinion loyal to AEW too however your question is a great one to think about thanks for commenting 👍
@UncleRukus-m2o
@UncleRukus-m2o 13 күн бұрын
She only can put on a perfect match with Charlotte and dats not good because Charlotte the best and so good She can make anyone look good😅😅😅
@stuartreid5387
@stuartreid5387 19 күн бұрын
I stand by my comments
@andipearson3929
@andipearson3929 19 күн бұрын
The answer is yes
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 19 күн бұрын
Cheers Andi We ask these questions without telling each other and this was my short and sweet instinctive answer too as you can hear! 🤣👍
@andipearson3929
@andipearson3929 19 күн бұрын
@TopTurnbucklePodcast I wrote that as I was listening to the question she has gone down hill to the point where she get the fast forward treatment
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 19 күн бұрын
@@andipearson3929 🤣👍
@xtranscaligirlx7946
@xtranscaligirlx7946 19 күн бұрын
I honestly think she trun on the company who made her and fans she gone from a 5 time champion a grandslam champion a 3 time tag team champion and credited with bring women division tag team titles but but now now she nothing more a than a mid card champion holding 2 wothless titles that mean nothing plus one tite she holds the company she dnt work for plus holding that tite she holding bk njpw women div and I think she lied to all of us with reason why she left there was 4 different reasons all sound like b.s plus she never gave wwe new owers a shot or even hhh alls banks did was be greedy go to wcw 2.0 aka aew for money and her new theme music stucks her merchandise stucks her character stucks we now see banks think she bigger than wwe well she found out not got that ego cheak and got fired she proves if you come at your boss with a bad ego you going to end up with out a job
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 19 күн бұрын
She certainly had very toxic behaviour backstage if the reports are true and as you say it would seem she was the ringleader in causing trouble. I seem to remember that Bayley and Mercedes did a sit down protest about having to switch the tag titles with the Iconics at a wrestlemania? While Bayley and of course Naomi cannot be overlooked for the part they played it does seem imo out of character for those two to act in such a childish way. Her real life (not on screen) behaviour with fans is out of order... I remember hearing from ECW's Francine on a podcast that she had told a young child to get away from her!? And Alexa Bliss had to console the kid after seeing it. That's just pathetic.
@xtranscaligirlx7946
@xtranscaligirlx7946 18 күн бұрын
@TopTurnbucklePodcast I just go off of the reasons banks gave in interviews in a a few podcasts her reasons really dnt seem justify when she legit did not show up to work half the time or taken moths off then return just to go mia again her ego got the best of her she thinking iam a big draw I can do whatever I want to well she found out opps she not as important as she thinks now about aew her run there very mid card run bad decisions bad booking her ego makes ppl want to slap her only way she in a better place in aew if she go after aee championship if they just keep her on the tbs one she no better off than she was in wwe now her return to wwe would come down to what best. for business would she make them money and we don't konw what to feel about her or even hhh feels but again its all about the money
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 14 күн бұрын
It's like, yeah, maybe one or two times when she left you might be able to give benefit of the doubt, but when it becomes regular like it did, then maybe she's the problem.
@xtranscaligirlx7946
@xtranscaligirlx7946 14 күн бұрын
@ShiningJudgment666 now that wwe is got different owers I feel she jumped the gun did not give hhh a fair shot before making the decision to thow away every she has done like grandslam champion got women tag team tites better booking but now she nothing but a mid card star holding wothless titles what a gd fall from 5 time champion to nothing with bad theme song bad character stupid ego and dnt get it worg if she walk bk into wwe I would all happy again I just think aew is trash nothing more than wcw 2.0
@sjohnson9536
@sjohnson9536 8 күн бұрын
She was never all that great to begin with. I can’t think of 1 match that really sticks out.
@joshuajoyi6912
@joshuajoyi6912 16 күн бұрын
arrogant or not, her impact and achievements as a woman wrestler are very solid. It doesn’t change how good she is.
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 16 күн бұрын
Respect your opinion 👍
@artoolie3341
@artoolie3341 15 күн бұрын
Facts
@xyPERSON
@xyPERSON 12 күн бұрын
Think what you want about that Joshua but I think her value as a person should far outweigh her value as an entertainer. Take Hulk Hogan for example. He was one of the best entertainers in the sport yet has since proven himself to be an unapologetic racist.
@MultiMediaAssassin
@MultiMediaAssassin 12 күн бұрын
maybe she needs some humble pie by going to TNA because Tony Khan lets her act and behave that way and lets her do whatever she wants in AEW whereas if she went back to WWE or went to TNA they would not tolerate her primadonna attitude Triple H wouldn't tolerate her sassiness in WWE and Tommy Dreamer and Gail Kim sure as hell wouldn't tolerate her impudence and insolence in TNA
@artoolie3341
@artoolie3341 15 күн бұрын
Thats her character
@sashabanks5219
@sashabanks5219 18 күн бұрын
I thought only girls gossip
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 18 күн бұрын
This is a mature wrestling debate, your comment is as poor and arrogant as the individual you are a fan of.. Take the opportunity to give us your point of view. I think she is talented personally, but to arrogant... let us know 👍
@sashabanks5219
@sashabanks5219 17 күн бұрын
@TopTurnbucklePodcast The audacity of calling yourself mature after yapping with rumors you got from unethical wrestling news guru guys! Lol😅 Why don't you try listening to her and listen to her story? Tell me in which way she's arrogant. For not listening to the rap**t old man? Give me one of her matches in WWE where she arrogantly denied to put other talents over and made them look terrible in the ring
@sashabanks5219
@sashabanks5219 17 күн бұрын
@@TopTurnbucklePodcast why did you delete my reply?😅
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 17 күн бұрын
We didn't, you are free to reply whatever you like pal. We like other opinions and stances on our topics.. Read the other comments and our reply's, why would you be so important that we would choose to delete yours? 🤷‍♂️🤣👍
@sashabanks5219
@sashabanks5219 17 күн бұрын
@@TopTurnbucklePodcast should've asked yourself that question before you deleted. Plus your channel doesn't even have millions of subscribers and likes to not see every comment😅
@dimitridelgado6531
@dimitridelgado6531 12 күн бұрын
All AEW wrestlers are at a downfall 😂
@deyampert3738
@deyampert3738 14 күн бұрын
Why can’t she be arrogant??? The Goddamn US President is arrogant? She is a heel! She came from nothing to 5 mill a year! I love her!!! She NEVER BOTCHES!!! Britt Baker botches!
@Historywithmiakeski
@Historywithmiakeski 17 күн бұрын
😂 I hate wrestling KZbin
@gmont28
@gmont28 17 күн бұрын
Then why are you here?
@TopTurnbucklePodcast
@TopTurnbucklePodcast 17 күн бұрын
Pro wrestling is a subjective art form which is open to criticism, critique and alternative opinions, what is amazing to some individuals is not to others and that's great and healthy if the discussion about that subject matter is mature and open to respecting different points of view. We are respectful of that here, so if you do not agree with our opinion to the extent you have to communicate your hatred for it please give us yours 👍
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